Kelsey To UMass

[94GRAD]

Jeff Goodman reporting

[GoMuskies]

Suck it paul. :)

[GoMuskies]

And, of course, congratulations to the esteemed Mr. Kelsey!

[xavierj]

And, of course, congratulations to the esteemed Mr. Kelsey!

Good move for him. If he can win at UMASS, he will have a lot of options.

[xubrew]

UMass made a good coaching hire. I almost don't know how to process this information.

[xufan2434]

Congrats to Coach Kelsey! He's always been one of my favorite guys that have been a part of X's program. He certainly deserves it. Not sure what his other options were compared to Umass, but wouldn't be surprised to climb even higher after a couple of years.

Guess if Mack did end up choosing to go to IU, we couldn't fall back to Pat :sad:

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/03/21/pat-kelsey-umass-winthrop-head-coach

[blueblob06]

Wow, congrats to Coach Kelsey!

[xavierj]

Congrats to Coach Kelsey! He's always been one of my favorite guys that have been a part of X's program. He certainly deserves it. Not sure what his other options were compared to Umass, but wouldn't be surprised to climb even higher after a couple of years.

Guess if Mack did end up choosing to go to IU, we couldn't fall back to Pat :sad:

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/03/21/pat-kelsey-umass-winthrop-head-coach

I am sure he either thought Chris isn't going anywhere or he had no chance. I am guessing he believes Chris isn't going anywhere

[ArcherXU]

Really happy for Coach Kelsey. Hopefully he finds success there and continues to move up the coaching ranks! Great representative of X!

[xubrew]

I am sure he either thought Chris isn't going anywhere or he had no chance. I am guessing he believes Chris isn't going anywhere

I am guessing that he probably thought both of those things.

[GoMuskies]

He wasn't getting the job from Winthrop. If he succeeds at UMess, he will set himself up very nicely for the Xavier job whenever it next becomes available. And he'll have a lot of other options if UMess works out.

[blueblob06]

He wasn't getting the job from Winthrop. If he succeeds at UMess, he will set himself up very nicely for the Xavier job *whenever* it next becomes available. And he'll have a lot of other options if UMess works out.
Whenever = 2040 when Mack retires, with 5 National Championships.:logo::logo::logo:

[muskiefan82]

If Kelsey makes UMASS the flagship program of the A-10 and repeatedly beats down the cryers, can we enjoy it as domination by proxy?

[paulxu]

This is great for Kelsey! Happy for him to be moving up.
Do well at UMass and bide your time.

(Hope he's not upset when he finds the beach a little bit closer...but 40 degrees colder)

[Section 200]

I have a reason to watch the A-10 again. Hope they play at Dayton next year.

[TUclutch]

Congrats to Coach Kelsey! He's always been one of my favorite guys that have been a part of X's program. He certainly deserves it. Not sure what his other options were compared to Umass, but wouldn't be surprised to climb even higher after a couple of years.

Guess if Mack did end up choosing to go to IU, we couldn't fall back to Pat :sad:

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/03/21/pat-kelsey-umass-winthrop-head-coach

IF Mack were to leave, the Xavier job is 99.9% going to Travis Steele.

[GIMMFD]

IF Mack were to leave, the Xavier job is 99.9% going to Travis Steele.

You don't think they'd consider Kelsey since he's been an assistant and has coached as a head coach? I kind of think it would be a toss up, granted favoring Steele, unless a blue blood comes calling and Steele decides to follow Mack. You can make a pretty pretty being a top assistant at one of those schools. Let's just hope we don't have to deal with that for a while

[xufan2434]

You don't think they'd consider Kelsey since he's been an assistant and has coached as a head coach? I kind of think it would be a toss up, granted favoring Steele, unless a blue blood comes calling and Steele decides to follow Mack. You can make a pretty pretty being a top assistant at one of those schools. Let's just hope we don't have to deal with that for a while

Yeah that was more along the lines of my thinking. Not to get too (way) ahead of myself here. But if all of this were to happen this off season, I think I'd be more ready for Steele than I was for Mack. On the flip, I agree the fact that Kelsey has had 5 years of HC experience, they might have considered him first. Steele has been great for X, especially recruiting. It's going to suck when they do lose him at some point

[bjf123]

If Kelsey makes UMASS the flagship program of the A-10 and repeatedly beats down the cryers, can we enjoy it as domination by proxy?

Absolutely!


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[Muskie]

IF Mack were to leave, the Xavier job is 99.9% going to Travis Steele. IMHO with a more competitive conference the days of handing the team over (almost) automatically have likely ended. If Chris does leave (eventually), I trust Greg Christopher will hire the best coach for X. At this point, none of us know if that is Travis Steele.

[xu82]

IMHO with a more competitive conference the days of handing the team over (almost) automatically have likely ended. If Chris does leave (eventually), I trust Greg Christopher will hire the best coach for X. At this point, none of us know if that is Travis Steele.

I sure don't want to find out!

[American X]

I trust Greg Christopher will hire the best coach for X.

Steve Kerr or I will get really angry on the internet.

[Lloyd Braun]

Kelsey... not to umass. Wonder where he is going now

[SemajParlor]

LOL wow. I know people will irrationally defend this because of the X connection. But yeeeshhh

[GoMuskies]

LOL wow. I know people will irrationally defend this because of the X connection. But yeeeshhh

Well, let's hear the whole story first. But he joins an elite group in pulling this off: Billy Donovan, Dana Altman and Gregg Marshall are the three that come to mind. Anyone remember any others?

[GoMuskies]

But if he just flaked, this rates a "Fuck no" by the Would Skip Prosser do this? standard.

[SemajParlor]

Well, let's hear the whole story first. But he joins an elite group in pulling this off: Billy Donovan, Dana Altman and Gregg Marshall are the three that come to mind. Anyone remember any others?

Bill Belichick

[GoMuskies]

Bobby Cremins, too.

He's getting the full wrath of the Massholes right now. Paul, I guess he like South Carolina better than Massachusetts after all.

[paulxu]

This sounds very strange.

[SemajParlor]

Paul, I guess he like South Carolina better than Massachusetts after all.

I heard the DC area is nice this time of year.

[Xaveriana]

I heard the DC area is nice this time of year.

My thoughts exactly. No other reason.

[Wheelhouse]

On the surface this seems like poor form by Kelsey. They had pictures of him on the UMASS campus meeting with the football coach today. They cancelled the press conference to announce him right before it started!

[xufan2434]

But if he just flaked, this rates a "Fuck no" by the Would Skip Prosser do this? standard.

Agreed. And having met Pat, it doesn't add up just on the surface of the story. Will be very interesting when the full one comes out on why.

Logical answer is someone (Gtown) else called with way more money. But still would find it hard he'd go back on it like that

[Wheelhouse]

I can't imagine that on the same day Georgetown fired JTII they reached out to, and hammered out a deal with, Pat Kelsey. I understand they could have spoken beforehand but there are pictures of Kelsey on the UMASS campus this morning. I can't see any way that he comes out of this looking anything but bad.

[SemajParlor]

I can't imagine that on the same day Georgetown fired JTII they reached out to, and hammered out a deal with, Pat Kelsey. I understand they could have spoken beforehand but there are pictures of Kelsey on the UMASS campus this morning. I can't see any way that he comes out of this looking anything but bad.

To be fair, I admittedly jumped the gun. Should wait to facts come out. Hope everything is alright. FWIW Goodman is reporting that it was a change of heart.

[Wheelhouse]

To be fair, I admittedly jumped the gun. Should wait to facts come out. Hope everything is alright.

I don't think there was anything wrong with your first post. This is a bad look for him. Reports say he pulled out 20 minutes before the press conference. Hard to believe there was some life altering news right at that moment. I guess you never know but it's unlikely.

[GoMuskies]

He obviously flaked on Xavier and Mack earlier in his career. You get one of those. Two? Definitely will be hard for him to overcome.

[zanesxu]

likely only for the moment until the mods get it on wikipedia... but this is hilarious...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Kelsey

"Patrick (Pat) Kelsey (born May 15, 1975) is a former college basketball head coach for the University of Massachusetts. He coached the Minutemen for less than a week, and remains the only undefeated coach in program history. He was head coach for five years over the Winthrop Eagles men's basketball team prior to accepting the head coach position at UMass. He was hired by UMass to be the 22nd coach in team history on March 21, 2017, returning to the Eagles program Mar. 23, 2017, to wait word on the opening at Georgetown. [1]"

[Xaveriana]

likely only for the moment until the mods get it on wikipedia... but this is hilarious...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Kelsey

"Patrick (Pat) Kelsey (born May 15, 1975) is a former college basketball head coach for the University of Massachusetts. He coached the Minutemen for less than a week, and remains the only undefeated coach in program history. He was head coach for five years over the Winthrop Eagles men's basketball team prior to accepting the head coach position at UMass. He was hired by UMass to be the 22nd coach in team history on March 21, 2017, returning to the Eagles program Mar. 23, 2017, to wait word on the opening at Georgetown. [1]"

Someone added "and Xavier" to the end.

[joe titan]

Well, let's hear the whole story first. But he joins an elite group in pulling this off: Billy Donovan, Dana Altman and Gregg Marshall are the three that come to mind. Anyone remember any others?

If you believe UNLV AD, Mick Cronin

[GetUp5]

This is definitely a little interesting from a Xavier fan perspective... I STILL think Coach Mack stays here a long, long time. But, this has to get you thinking.....

[GuyFawkes38]

I don't like the way this all is unfolding....

Hopefully this is just Pat Kelsey being Pat Kelsey.

[mistabeecee41]

This is definitely a little interesting from a Xavier fan perspective... I STILL think Coach Mack stays here a long, long time. But, this has to get you thinking.....

jesus, are we this paranoid? is the thought behind this that kelsey backing out of the umass job means he has information that Mack has already decided to leave Xavier and that Xavier has already reached out to Kelsey?

insanity.

[AviatorX]

jesus, are we this paranoid? is the thought behind this that kelsey backing out of the umass job means he has information that Mack has already decided to leave Xavier and that Xavier has already reached out to Kelsey?

insanity.

Yeah Mack probably stepped out of shoot around, took the IU job before they even had a chance to interview Steve Alford (short of Billy Donovan, it seems to me there is a 0% chance IU's search is over before they could conceivably have been rebuffed by Alford, imagine the outrage of the fanbase), and then gave Kelsey a heads up.

Xavier's next coach should and will be Travis Steele if that decision ever has to be made. Seems so obvious to me. There is no point in having a national search just to have a search, especially in light of the reported salary at X compared to other BE schools. Fair or not, college coaching is an insanely competitive business and this is a bad look for Kelsey as is whatever caused him to bail on X. There's a reason Steele very very selectively even interviews for jobs. The guy isn't dumb.

EDIT: Also, isn't UMASS kinda a shitty job? Clearly not in the top tier of the A10, so making the tournament is a real uphill battle.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

For Pat to completely back out of the UMass job, I think he must have already settled on another appointment. Can it be Georgetown? The timing is right.

[AviatorX]

For Pat to completely back out of the UMass job, I think he must have already settled on another appointment. Can it be Georgetown? The timing is right.

You think they started and finished their search in 3 hours?

[xavierj]

For Pat to completely back out of the UMass job, I think he must have already settled on another appointment. Can it be Georgetown? The timing is right.

Does anyone really think he would be that much of a jackass? Tell UMASS no, tell Winthrop yes and then burn them again? My guess is that he is staying at Winthrop another year at least. If not then with his history I would say yikes.

[MADXSTER]

Does anyone really think he would be that much of a jackass? Tell UMASS no, tell Winthrop yes and then burn them again? My guess is that he is staying at Winthrop another year at least. If not then with his history I would say yikes.

^^^^

[GuyFawkes38]

Does anyone really think he would be that much of a jackass? Tell UMASS no, tell Winthrop yes and then burn them again? My guess is that he is staying at Winthrop another year at least. If not then with his history I would say yikes.

On several different levels, Kelsey seems shaky. I do not want him him to be the next X coach.

[AviatorX]

On several different levels, Kelsey seems shaky. I do not want him him to be the next X coach.

Agreed and keep in mind under this conspiracy theory, he would be a shoo-in at X, which I find hard to imagine.

[SemajParlor]

People surely can't be suggesting there is some sort of conspiracy theory involving Pat Kelsey and Xavier.... That would be Tu crazy.

[TheChamp]

UMass fan here. Kelsey left us out to dry. Signed a contract on Tuesday, parading around campus and twitter, called Marcus Camby to wish him happy birthday, told his new players in a meeting he "loved them like his own kids" according to one of our seniors, then 30 minutes before the press couldn't even look our AD in the face to quit, but did it via a phonecall.

The speculation on the UMass board and the Winthrop beat guy's twitter, is that he Mack is in line for Indiana, and Kelsey would be in at Xavier. Apparently they have the same agent, so allegedly, if he anyone knew something was up, it'd be him. Not sure I buy it though.

Anyway, we're all really feeling sorry for ourselves. Screwed us pretty hard. There's a $1 million dollar buyout, so I hope we hold him to it.

Came over to see what you guys think of the man, and if this is out of character? And good luck tonight. I hope you win. Always root for our former A10 brotheren.

[Nigel Tufnel]

UMass fan here. Kelsey left us out to dry. Signed a contract on Tuesday, parading around campus and twitter, called Marcus Camby to wish him happy birthday, told his new players in a meeting he "loved them like his own kids" according to one of our seniors, then 30 minutes before the press couldn't even look our AD in the face to quit, but did it via a phonecall.

The speculation on the UMass board and the Winthrop beat guy's twitter, is that he Mack is in line for Indiana, and Kelsey would be in at Xavier. Apparently they have the same agent, so allegedly, if he anyone knew something was up, it'd be him. Not sure I buy it though.

Anyway, we're all really feeling sorry for ourselves. Screwed us pretty hard. There's a $1 million dollar buyout, so I hope we hold him to it.

Came over to see what you guys think of the man, and if this is out of character? And good luck tonight. I hope you win. Always root for our former A10 brotheren.

Really sucks for UMass. I can't answer any of your questions...but reading the responses to this should keep me engaged for the next 3.5 hours.

[Xavier]

If he and Mack have same agent, I'd imagine the agent would have advised against taking the UMass job in the first place (if he knew Mack was interested in other jobs)

[AviatorX]

As someone following the IU search extremely closely, there's absolutely nothing to indicate the process is very far along with anyone, let alone Mack. Yesterday word was Fred Glass was canvassing Indiana HS and AAU coaches to gauge the reputation of potential candidates. Mack has been moving up the ladder over the past few days in relation to this tourney run, etc., but it would be extremely surprising/out of left field to me if Fred Glass was anywhere close to an agreement with anyone. Obviously, these things can move really fast and change on a whim, but seems unlikely.

I am sure Mack's agent has been contacted along with Steve Alford's, Billy Donovan's, Tony Bennett's, Chris Collins' etc. etc. etc all the way down. That's a far cry from Mack being "in line for the job." And then on top of that Kelsey just automatically being "in line" at X, any reasonably person would imagine Travis Steele would have a significant say in a potential X vacancy.

I don't think this is remotely true at all and Archie's name doesn't even come up much for IU honestly, but isn't it just as easy to say Archie is in line for the IU job and Kelsey knows UD is a wayyy better job than UMASS and that he would be in the mix there?

[Muskie]

UMass fan here. Kelsey left us out to dry. Signed a contract on Tuesday, parading around campus and twitter, called Marcus Camby to wish him happy birthday, told his new players in a meeting he "loved them like his own kids" according to one of our seniors, then 30 minutes before the press couldn't even look our AD in the face to quit, but did it via a phonecall.

The speculation on the UMass board and the Winthrop beat guy's twitter, is that he Mack is in line for Indiana, and Kelsey would be in at Xavier. Apparently they have the same agent, so allegedly, if he anyone knew something was up, it'd be him. Not sure I buy it though.

Anyway, we're all really feeling sorry for ourselves. Screwed us pretty hard. There's a $1 million dollar buyout, so I hope we hold him to it.

Came over to see what you guys think of the man, and if this is out of character? And good luck tonight. I hope you win. Always root for our former A10 brotheren.

I feel really bad for you guys. I can't imagine that Mack is getting the IU job this early. It isn't the first time he's changed his mind before.


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[xu82]

Sitting in a Vail Co bar with my Winthrop wife, turns out the guy next to us works at Winthrop and just broke the news. Small world! Some speculation he's holding out for Dayton job!! Haha

[bleedXblue]

I think Pat Kelsey is a very emotional and loyal guy. I think he took this job without really giving a whole lot of thought (which is a mistake for sure) around location and league status and just how hard of a job this is going to be. His kids are still pretty young and he has built a nice program at Winthrop. The guy has a hard time with making these kinds of decisions and in the end, decided to stay. There is ZERO chance he tells WINTHROP he's coming back and then bails again in another 1-2 weeks.

I think the much more likely scenario is that he is going to coach at Winthrop for another couple of years and try to land somewhere much closer to home.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Do we know for certain he is going back to Winthrop?

[THRILLHOUSE]

Do we know for certain he is going back to Winthrop?

Winthrop just announced he is - http://winthropeagles.com/news/2017/3/23/pat-kelsey-is-remaining-as-winthrops-mens-basketball-head-coach.aspx

[ArizonaXUGrad]

There you go, guy has to stick around now. What is with him?

[letskeepitreal]

I am really surprised at Pat's behavior. Good way to burn your personal equity. It's ready,aim,fire not ready, fire, aim!

[stammina0721]

Whatever will happen will happen. However, this just smells fishy. I don't like this development one bit. Just a question, is our recruiting class officially signed? I should know that answer but I don't. I think you know why I am asking. If Mack is offered and takes IU can he bring these players as well?

[stammina0721]

Although this is fishy, I have to agree Xavier couldn't bring in Kelsey or even consider him with this behavior. I will say though if we can't keep Mack... a guy who played here... then we won't keep anyone ever.

[Muskie]

There is no connection between Kelsey's decision and the X job. This isn't the first time he's changed his mind in coaching.


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[throwbackmuskie]

Mack is not leaving. Let's win tonight!/


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[xubrew]

http://www.masslive.com/umassbasketball/index.ssf/2017/03/pat_kelsey_told_umass_ad_ryan.html

[Masterofreality]

Mack is not leaving. Let's win tonight!/


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This. Although some in the media....including incessant SucKS honk Mike DeCoursey, keep putting CMack's name out there- probably because DeCoursey would love him out of town.

I tweeted DeCoursey after he posted his Sporting News article on Twitter, that instead of putting Mack out there as the right hire, what about his protected boy who he loves. Mickey Cronin? He gave some weak answer that Cronin's name wasn't one of the ones discussed. I answered ... Who is discussing Mack's name other that him or other ink stained wretches and the point of his article was that there were other candidates than Alford. He had no answer to my contention that he should have put his love boy Cronin out there.

Screw DeCoursey and screw these guys like Lance who, as BoreCat shills, would love to see CMack leave. Screw them.

[AviatorX]

This. Although some in the media....including incessant SucKS honk Mike DeCoursey, keep putting CMack's name out there- probably because DeCoursey would love him out of town.

I tweeted DeCoursey after he posted his Sporting New article on Twitter, that instead of putting Mack out there as the right hire, what about his protected boy who he loves. Mickey Cronin? He gave some weak answer that Cronin's name wasn't one of the ones discussed. I answered ... Who is discussing Mack's name other that him or other ink stained wretches and the point of his article was that there were other candidates than Alford. He had no answer to my contention that he should have put his love boy Cronin out there.

Screw DeCoursey and screw these guys like Lance who, as BoreCat shills, would love to see CMack leave. Screw them.

Let's not kid ourselves. Macks name is in the mix at IU. Cronins is definitely not.

[LA Muskie]

You don't think they'd consider Kelsey since he's been an assistant and has coached as a head coach? I kind of think it would be a toss up, granted favoring Steele, unless a blue blood comes calling and Steele decides to follow Mack. You can make a pretty pretty being a top assistant at one of those schools. Let's just hope we don't have to deal with that for a while

It would not be a toss-up. 99.9% odds may be a tad on the high side, but Travis would be the HEAVY favorite.


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[bleedXblue]

Let's not kid ourselves. Macks name is in the mix at IU. Cronins is definitely not.

Which I find very interesting considering the success that Cronin has had at UC. Very strange if you ask me that his name wouldn't be even mentioned.

[LA Muskie]

Which I find very interesting considering the success that Cronin has had at UC. Very strange if you ask me that his name wouldn't be even mentioned.

Mick is Brian Gregory 2.0.


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[D-West & PO-Z]

Which I find very interesting considering the success that Cronin has had at UC. Very strange if you ask me that his name wouldn't be even mentioned.

He has had almost zero tourney success which is what coaches really become known as big time for.

1 Sweet I believe, multiple first round losses.

[bleedXblue]

He has had almost zero tourney success which is what coaches really become known as big time for.

1 Sweet I believe, multiple first round losses.

That program was decimated when he took it over. As much as I hate him, he's done a really good job at UC.

[bleedXblue]

Mick is Brian Gregory 2.0.


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I completely disagree

[D-West & PO-Z]

That program was decimated when he took it over. As much as I hate him, he's done a really good job at UC.

He has done a pretty decent job given what state the program was in and we know that locally. I doubt many nationally know or realize.

I mean we are talking about the IU job, no NC State or Cal. I am not surprised in the least Cronin isnt under consideration.

[bleedXblue]

He has done a pretty decent job given what state the program was in and we know that locally. I doubt many nationally know or realize.

I mean we are talking about the IU job, no NC State or Cal. I am not surprised in the least Cronin isnt under consideration.

Decent? 7 straight NCAA tournaments? A career .659 win percentage? You're a tough critic

[D-West & PO-Z]

Decent? 7 straight NCAA tournaments? A career .659 win percentage? You're a tough critic

Ok fair enough. He has done a good job, just not where it matters most, the tourney.

[AviatorX]

A huge part of the IU job is having the personality for such a visible job, media chops, etc.

Cronins whining wouldn't exactly get it done.

[OH.X.MI]

This. Although some in the media....including incessant SucKS honk Mike DeCoursey, keep putting CMack's name out there- probably because DeCoursey would love him out of town.

I tweeted DeCoursey after he posted his Sporting New article on Twitter, that instead of putting Mack out there as the right hire, what about his protected boy who he loves. Mickey Cronin? He gave some weak answer that Cronin's name wasn't one of the ones discussed. I answered ... Who is discussing Mack's name other that him or other ink stained wretches and the point of his article was that there were other candidates than Alford. He had no answer to my contention that he should have put his love boy Cronin out there.

Screw DeCoursey and screw these guys like Lance who, as BoreCat shills, would love to see CMack leave. Screw them.

Love it MOR, DeCoursey is an ass clown.


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[bleedXblue]

Ok fair enough. He has done a good job, just not where it matters most, the tourney.

Archie Millers has advanced to a game beyond where Mick has in the tourney and the last 2 years hasn't won a game is looked at as a viable candidate?

[bleedXblue]

A huge part of the IU job is having the personality for such a visible job, media chops, etc.

Cronins whining wouldn't exactly get it done.

What did Bobby Knight do for 20 years?

[bleedXblue]

A huge part of the IU job is having the personality for such a visible job, media chops, etc.

Cronins whining wouldn't exactly get it done.

Crean had zero personality.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Archie Millers has advanced to a game beyond where Mick has in the tourney and the last 2 years hasn't won a game is looked at as a viable candidate?

I am not commmenting on Miller. I am only talking about Mick. I think there our many coaches in front on Miller or at least should be.

[Masterofreality]

He has done a pretty decent job given what state the program was in and we know that locally. I doubt many nationally know or realize.

I mean we are talking about the IU job, no NC State or Cal. I am not surprised in the least Cronin isnt under consideration.

But according to Mike DeCoursey, except when another big job comes up, The Yellow Toothed Gnome should be in the Basketball Hall of Fame!

[xavierj]

Xavier getting ready for a trip to elite 8... enjoy

[gladdenguy]

Mike Decoursey is awful. His Syracuse resume love and then his bitching about Illinois St. not getting in the tourney was the final straw for me. He is brutal.

[AviatorX]

Crean had zero personality.

Not really true. He is well liked in many circles.

Not sure if you noticed but he got fired. So not sure what your point is.

[Masterofreality]

Mike Decoursey is awful. His Syracuse resume love and then his bitching about Illinois St. not getting in the tourney was the final straw for me. He is brutal.

Gladden, the worst thing about DeCoursey's bitching about Illinois State not getting in was that he had to go out of his way to Trash the Big East for getting too many teams in. Of course he disregards facts like that maybe Wake or Virginia Tech shouldn't have gotten in and obviously like you say he was pimping the awful 'Cuse for a spot. Can't trash that vaunted ACC.

[bleedXblue]

Not really true. He is well liked in many circles.

Not sure if you noticed but he got fired. So not sure what your point is.

Really, what circles? According to who?

[Masterofreality]

Really, what circles? According to who?

Those who start on third base.

[Muskie]

hate to say it but Mack to IU and Kelsey to X is probably all but done.....good news is, the players are likely aware of it and will play their collective dicks off.

I'd be highly surprised if there is any connection between the two. But people apparently are going to keep making this connection.


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[DexterBailey84]

I'd be highly surprised if there is any connection between the two....

why would you be surprised??

[LA Muskie]

why would you be surprised??

Because he took back his job at Winthrop. If this was about another opportunity he would be a free agent right now.


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[bleedXblue]

why would you be surprised??

b/c Winthrop just issued a press release that Kelsey is returning

[Muskie]

why would you be surprised??

Besides being an X grad, I'm not sure what Kelsey has done to warrant an automatic promotion to the X job if Mack left in your scenario. That's why I would be highly surprised.


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[DexterBailey84]

I understand it's a bad time to talk about this, but there's gonna be a whole lot of hurt feelings when it all said and done..

[XUFan09]

Troll.

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[Muskie]

I understand it's a bad time to talk about this, but there's gonna be a whole lot of hurt feelings when it all said and done..

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Strange as it is that you're wanting to talk about it during the Sweet 16 game. There's no evidence to support what you're saying that I see, but whatever works.


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[Pete Delkus]

It would not be a toss-up. 99.9% odds may be a tad on the high side, but Travis would be the HEAVY favorite.


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Ummm...there are about 5 people deciding this, IF...and I'd double check their preferences.

[AviatorX]

Really, what circles? According to who?

Well for one, Fred Glass was in his corner and fighting for him up until the last possible second. Read any article about the firing. Crean is easy to make fun of and not liked around these parts I get it, but let's not overstate it.

[LA Muskie]

Crean won Big 10 championships and NCAA tourney games. They liked him because of that. Not because anyone thinks he's a redeeming human being.


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[DexterBailey84]

Troll.

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I'm really not

[bleedXblue]

I'm really not

LOL, 13 posts and half of those are tonight

Go away

[LA Muskie]

Ummm...there are about 5 people deciding this, IF...and I'd double check their preferences.

I'm not sure what you mean. Seriously -- I'm confused about your position. I'm not challenging you.

[DexterBailey84]

LOL, 13 posts and half of those are tonight

Go away

Yes sir

[TUclutch]

Ummm...there are about 5 people deciding this, IF...and I'd double check their preferences.

Trust me when I say that IF Mack were to leave after this season and its not likely, that Travis Steele would be the next coach at Xavier