CBS/TNT Studio disrespecting X- no coverage after game

[IM4X]

shame on that whole bunch of losers....

All of them talking about FSU being their final 4 pick... Ha... No one giving us the respect.

Keep it up... keep eating crow

Go X!

[GIMMFD]

The disrespect is so real with these studio heads, but I don't let it bother me. Keep taking care of business, and generate our own noise. Let's get another Elite 8 shall we?

[whopper]

It is a great feeling to be ignored after a win..hope it happens 2 times next week as well. Rooting for Butler now..

[Strange Brew]

Still not much coverage. Guess that happens when the studio is full of no nothing ACC honks and X blasts two of the ACCs best.

[GIMMFD]

Still not much coverage. Guess that happens when the studio is full of no nothing ACC honks and X blasts two of the ACCs best.

One of the ACC's best, one Big 10 ;).

[bobbiemcgee]

Yeah, I spent an hour waiting for those guys to swallow the crow....nada Also waiting for Seth to update his "lock" board.

[AviatorX]

Who is even watching this stuff when there's other NCAA Tournament games on? I was wondering out loud why they even need a halftime show during the first two days of coverage.

[Strange Brew]

One of the ACC's best, one Big 10 ;).

Shoot forgot Mary moved to the B10

[JTG]

The disrespect is so real with these studio heads, but I don't let it bother me. Keep taking care of business, and generate our own noise. Let's get another Elite 8 shall we?
Screw that, let's go to Phoenix.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Shoot forgot Mary moved to the B10

You and Mike Francesa.

[stammina0721]

Who cares!!! Let's keep sticking our middle finger up to the world and make it 2 NC in a row for the Big East

[MauriceX]

An hour after the game finished last night, there was still nothing on ESPN's mobile site about us winning. However they did have an article at halftime that read "FSU slowing Xavier's momentum." Yes, their headline was about FSU doing well, even when we were winning by 10.

[Juice]

An hour after the game finished last night, there was still nothing on ESPN's mobile site about us winning. However they did have an article at halftime that read "FSU slowing Xavier's momentum." Yes, their headline was about FSU doing well, even when we were winning by 10.

They had too many people devoted to Northwestern coverage that no one gave a shit about.

[nuts4xu]

Xavier Nation is filled with victims. I am not worried about how much ink or coverage we get, we have done fine to this point without much limelight.

Keep winning and the coverage will come. They can only ignore us for so long.

Love this time of year!

[bleedXblue]

Add to this the Enquirer didn't even have a story in the paper today. The game was over at 8:15

I'm cancelling my subscription......

[paulxu]

Sneaking up on 'em....

[XUFan09]

They had too many people devoted to Northwestern coverage that no one gave a shit about.
Yup. It was an interesting story because the officials actually released a statement about it, but come on. Refs missed multiple calls every game that cost teams points. This was unfortunate, but it's not like it occurred with under a minute to play in a close game. I get the coverage of the Nova upset (though it's worsened by the slobberfest the media has for Wisconsin), but Xavier's beatdown of FSU (in an upset, no less) was big news too.

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[jhelmes37]

It's really strange.

I woke up a bit hungover, ready to devour the news stories. Certainly, an 11-seed who just dismantled and boatraces a 3-seed in dominating fashion has to make a splash, right?

Just a few game articles. Nothing big. Meh.

Whatever, I suppose.

Did the gametime get posted for Thursday yet?

[markchal]

Who cares? We'll get plenty of coverage during the week and really, take it as a sign of respect that no one is surprised by us in the sweet 16. I'd rather have the "business as usual for Xavier" take than the "wowza look at this 11-seed Cinderella making a run!"

[Newswired]

What's even more disheartening is that today's Cincinnati Enquirer has zero coverage because they obviously went to press too early in the evening Saturday. SAD!

Our children's children won't even know what a local newspaper was.

[MauriceX]

Did the gametime get posted for Thursday yet?

Not all of the matchups for Thursday have been set yet, so we will have to wait until the games finish today to find out. But there are four possible times:

7:00 PM (CBS)
7:15 PM (TBS)
9:30 PM (CBS)
9:45 PM (TBS)

Edit: I said we'd probably get a late slot because we are playing on the west coast, but then realized Gonzaga and West Virginia will be playing out there too. So who knows.

[XUFan09]

Eyeroll material from AP recap:

"Florida State was the bigger program from a power conference, but Xavier came in as a tournament tested team and it showed."

The ESPN recap was actually pretty good, at least, with some depth to it.

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[XU 87]

Eyeroll material from AP recap:

"Florida State was the bigger program from a power conference, but Xavier came in as a tournament tested team and it showed."

The ESPN recap was actually pretty good, at least, with some depth to it.

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I think it's flat wrong to say "FSU is the bigger program."

And the BE, with a #1 seed and 7 teams in the tourney, is not a power conference? Who wrote this article?

[jhelmes37]

Who cares? We'll get plenty of coverage during the week and really, take it as a sign of respect that no one is surprised by us in the sweet 16. I'd rather have the "business as usual for Xavier" take than the "wowza look at this 11-seed Cinderella making a run!"

The only reason I cared is because I wanted to read about X.........

[X-band '01]

The only reason I cared is because I wanted to read about X.........

Is that the article that said Trevor Bluiett was the star of the game for Xavier?

[Caveat]

I think it's flat wrong to say "FSU is the bigger program."

And the BE, with a #1 seed and 7 teams in the tourney, is not a power conference? Who wrote this article?

Nothing screams "I don't understand college basketball" louder than dropping a "Power 5" reference when talking about college basketball.

[bobbiemcgee]

Eyeroll material from AP recap:

"Florida State was the bigger program from a power conference, but Xavier came in as a tournament tested team and it showed."

The ESPN recap was actually pretty good, at least, with some depth to it.

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I saw that. Also said we were in the S16 LAST yr. Kenny Smith said FSU to the FF.

[XUFan09]

I think it's flat wrong to say "FSU is the bigger program."

And the BE, with a #1 seed and 7 teams in the tourney, is not a power conference? Who wrote this article?
Yup. I'm not losing sleep over it, but I was definitely astounded by the ignorance and I outright laughed at the idea of FSU being a bigger program.

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[XU 87]

Yup. I'm not losing sleep over it, but I was definitely astounded by the ignorance and I outright laughed at the idea of FSU being a bigger program.

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If you're gong to write an article about NCAA basketball teams, is it too much to ask that the author at least have some general knowledge about the teams?

[XUFan09]

If you're gong to write an article about NCAA basketball teams, is it too much to ask that the author at least have some general knowledge about the teams?
This guy got paid to write this. Just crazy.

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[XU 87]

This guy got paid to write this. Just crazy.

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I suppose the writer could have check Wikipedia first and learned that this is FSU's first NCAA appearance in the last 5 years.

Maybe the author thought XU basketball was playing FSU football.

[xubrew]

I think it's flat wrong to say "FSU is the bigger program."

And the BE, with a #1 seed and 7 teams in the tourney, is not a power conference? Who wrote this article?

I'm sure the article sucked, but when it comes to the technicalities of NCAA governance, the Big East is not a Power Five conference. There are five autonomous conferences. They have been branded the Power Five. The Big East is not one of those conferences. That doesn't mean that it isn't as good on the court as those conferences, but the rules are different for those five leagues than they are for the Big East, and for the other 26 leagues.

Think of it this way. When it comes to governance, those five leagues have power that the Big East does not have. That doesn't mean that they're better than the Big East in basketball, or in any other sport, though.

[Muskie]

Power conferences apparently have football. That's the delineation as far as I can tell.


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[xubrew]

Power conferences apparently have football. That's the delineation as far as I can tell.


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They can propose and pass legislation that only pertains to them without the approval of the rest of the schools in the other 26 conferences. That's not a small difference.

[Muskie]

They can propose and pass legislation that only pertains to them without the approval of the rest of the schools in the other 26 conferences. That's not a small difference.

Correct. But doesn't that have to to with Football as well Brew? I mean they've amassed all this wealth/power from football payouts correct? That and Conference Tv Network $$$.


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[xubrew]

Correct. But doesn't that have to to with Football as well Brew? I mean they've amassed all this wealth/power from football payouts correct? That and Conference Tv Network $$$.


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It's across the board. Cost of living stipends has been the biggest one. It applies to all sports. Same with the changes to what is and isn't allowed during official visits and changes to the off-season practice rules.

[bjf123]

What's even more disheartening is that today's Cincinnati Enquirer has zero coverage because they obviously went to press too early in the evening Saturday. SAD!

Our children's children won't even know what a local newspaper was.

There is an article about the game online at Cincinnati.com.


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[Nigel Tufnel]

I'm not complaining or feel like a victim...but I did watch Sportscenter last night for 45 mins during their 11 pm show to see what they had to say. My buddies got annoyed and turned the channel. But 45 mins and no talk of X/FSU. I found it strange and my buddies were commenting about it too. They showed women's highlights...but no 11 beating a 3 by 25 pts. I still haven't seen any highlights or discussion about the game on tv.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm not complaining or feel like a victim...but I did watch Sportscenter last night for 45 mins during their 11 pm show to see what they had to say. My buddies got annoyed and turned the channel. But 45 mins and no talk of X/FSU. I found it strange and my buddies were commenting about it too. They showed women's highlights...but no 11 beating a 3 by 25 pts. I still haven't seen any highlights or discussion about the game on tv.

I recorded 1 hour this morning and nothing either.

I think they did talk about it on college gameday but I missed it.

Part of the problem is 2 big things happened in other games, Nova lost and Northwestern (the media darling) got screwed in a close game. Those took a lot of attention.

[GIMMFD]

Not all of the matchups for Thursday have been set yet, so we will have to wait until the games finish today to find out. But there are four possible times:

7:00 PM (CBS)
7:15 PM (TBS)
9:30 PM (CBS)
9:45 PM (TBS)

Edit: I said we'd probably get a late slot because we are playing on the west coast, but then realized Gonzaga and West Virginia will be playing out there too. So who knows.

Damnit I have a mandatory meeting at 6, I would really like the 9pm game but who knows.

[XUhockey99]

I'm not complaining or feel like a victim...but I did watch Sportscenter last night for 45 mins during their 11 pm show to see what they had to say. My buddies got annoyed and turned the channel. But 45 mins and no talk of X/FSU. I found it strange and my buddies were commenting about it too. They showed women's highlights...but no 11 beating a 3 by 25 pts. I still haven't seen any highlights or discussion about the game on tv.
I was watching the Scott van Pelt Sportscenter after Xavier beat Maryland to hear his take because he's a Maryland guy and his producer (I think) went to Xavier. He mentioned that during Sportscenter, they are only allowed to show 2 minutes of tournament highlights per 30 minutes -- I think he said he was happy he didn't have to see his team losing on his show. After he mentioned it, when watching other Sportscenter episodes I noticed that ESPN has really been picky on which tournament highlights they show, so it seemed accurate to me.
And if anyone cares, he made a bet with his producer and he said he has to eat 'Cincinnati' chili on Sportscenter this coming week.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I was watching the Scott van Pelt Sportscenter after Xavier beat Maryland to hear his take because he's a Maryland guy and his producer (I think) went to Xavier. He mentioned that during Sportscenter, they are only allowed to show 2 minutes of tournament highlights per 30 minutes -- I think he said he was happy he didn't have to see his team losing on his show. After he mentioned it, when watching other Sportscenter episodes I noticed that ESPN has really been picky on which tournament highlights they show, so it seemed accurate to me.
And if anyone cares, he made a bet with his producer and he said he has to eat 'Cincinnati' chili on Sportscenter this coming week.

Thanks for the info, that makes sense.

Thanks for the heads up on the chili thing too.

[xu82]

Long ride home today with a lot of national sports radio. The ACC only having 2 teams left got a ton of coverage about how maybe they weren't as good as people thought. There was also a lot of "...and meanwhile, Xavier comes in fairly unheralded and just does what they do, and are headed to yet another Sweet 16." I kind of like that that's not shocking to anyone!

[principal]

Long ride home today with a lot of national sports radio. The ACC only having 2 teams left got a ton of coverage about how maybe they weren't as good as people thought. There was also a lot of "...and meanwhile, Xavier comes in fairly unheralded and just does what they do, and are headed to yet another Sweet 16." I kind of like that that's not shocking to anyone!

I hate to be that guy, but the total lack of attention is amazing. It's as if the win didn't happen. No mention here:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18961166/kentucky-wildcats-ucla-bruins-highlight-best-games-ncaa-tournament-sweet-16

[GoMuskies]

We're sneaking up on the Sweet Sixteen!

[xufan2434]

I hate to be that guy, but the total lack of attention is amazing. It's as if the win didn't happen. No mention here:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18961166/kentucky-wildcats-ucla-bruins-highlight-best-games-ncaa-tournament-sweet-16

Myron Medcalf is not good IMO. Honestly the only college ball writer they have that I really enjoy is Jeff Borzello. He's by far the most knowledgeable in terms of the actual players because he follows the recruiting trail so thoroughly.

In terms of this thread and disrespect, was nice to see Bilas recognizing X and BE yesterday:

"Remaining Cinderellas? Xavier and Butler, perennial Sweet 16 teams? Nah. Gonzaga, perennial Sweet 16 participants? Nah."
"Of Sweet 16 teams: 13 are Power 5 conference teams, 2 are major conference teams (Butler, Xavier), one is a mid-major team (Gonzaga)."

Interesting to say Big East is Major Conference, but not Power 5 Conference. I agree with him actually, just cause they're only major in basketball. I had never heard anyone say it like that before

[Wheelhouse]

Keep winning and eventually they're going to have to mention us.

Perhaps part of the reason we haven't been mentioned very much is that we boat raced our first two opponents. While both games have been thoroughly enjoyable for us to watch as Xavier fans, the rest of America was probably bored to death because they were such beat downs.

[Pete Delkus]

I too had some car time, on the way home from a out of town meeting, and on CBS Radio The DA Show, Tim Brando gave us some love. Not a ton, but enough relative to others. The conversation was interwoven with the Miller/Mack matchup, but hey - we'll take it !!

[markchal]

didn't Mack do like three or four national radio interviews yesterday??

[bobbiemcgee]

We got one sentence in the Denver Post this morning talking about the eventual Zags/AZ matchup.

[xubrew]

I can't help but think that we sometimes collectively come off as the last people in the world that a server would want seated in their section. We complain about the tip times, or the location, or the coverage, or in this case lack thereof. I don't really care about how much time people I don't care about or listen to anyway are spending talking about Xavier.

How much coverage has Arizona gotten? Or Baylor? Or Kansas? Or West Virginia? Have they gotten more or less than Xavier has. We are now to a point that Xavier making the Sweet Sixteen, even as a #11 seed, isn't really interesting or unique anymore. Northwestern has never been in the tournament, and they had one game end with a bizarre foul where the Vandy player thought they were behind, and another game that saw a missed goal tend where the NCAA actually acknowledged the blown call. That's interesting. That's unique. That's going to get talked about.

Michigan had a plane go off the runway, and has been a roll ever since. They beat a Louisville team that many were picking to the Final Four, who is also a brand name.

West Virginia, or Kansas, or Arizona, or Xavier making the Sweet Sixteen isn't. It's understandable that the coverage has been what it is. Basketball people know that Florida State was good, but the media caters to the casual fan, and to the casual fan Xavier making the Sweet Sixteen after beating Florida State just doesn't require a lot of chatter.

And, that's a good thing! Virtually NOTHING in my life goes exactly the way I want it to. I'm usually satisfied if only part of it goes the way I want it to. We're in the Sweet Sixteen. I'm satisfied. No complaints here. I sure as hell wouldn't call it being disrespected. When something happens frequently, there is less of a need to point it out.

[murray87]

I was at least hoping to see a quick interview after the games with a couple of the players after the great victories. Those dudes earned some national spotlight but the networks had to cut out for another round of stupid Geico and Viagra commercials. It seems that players from other schools are regularly pulled aside for a quick quote or two after their games end.

[XMuskieFTW]

We got one sentence in the Denver Post this morning talking about the eventual Zags/AZ matchup.

Sort of like when we lost to BYU in the tourney two years ago :DD

[American X]

another round of stupid Geico and Viagra commercials

If you have GEICO for more than four hours, you should see your Buick dealer.

[IM4X]

We got one sentence in the Denver Post this morning talking about the eventual Zags/AZ matchup.

Goodness it will be sweet if it ends up being a X/WVU matchup.

[GIMMFD]

Goodness it will be sweet if it ends up being a X/WVU matchup.

I think I might rip my heart out.

[Xavier]

West va would be interesting. I'm not sure we could handle that press at all but they have shown they can be bad on offense. IMO we match up better with zags. Hope we get the chance

[xu82]

I can't help but think that we sometimes collectively come off as the last people in the world that a server would want seated in their section. We complain about the tip times, or the location, or the coverage, or in this case lack thereof. I don't really care about how much time people I don't care about or listen to anyway are spending talking about Xavier.

How much coverage has Arizona gotten? Or Baylor? Or Kansas? Or West Virginia? Have they gotten more or less than Xavier has. We are now to a point that Xavier making the Sweet Sixteen, even as a #11 seed, isn't really interesting or unique anymore. Northwestern has never been in the tournament, and they had one game end with a bizarre foul where the Vandy player thought they were behind, and another game that saw a missed goal tend where the NCAA actually acknowledged the blown call. That's interesting. That's unique. That's going to get talked about.

Michigan had a plane go off the runway, and has been a roll ever since. They beat a Louisville team that many were picking to the Final Four, who is also a brand name.

West Virginia, or Kansas, or Arizona, or Xavier making the Sweet Sixteen isn't. It's understandable that the coverage has been what it is. Basketball people know that Florida State was good, but the media caters to the casual fan, and to the casual fan Xavier making the Sweet Sixteen after beating Florida State just doesn't require a lot of chatter.

And, that's a good thing! Virtually NOTHING in my life goes exactly the way I want it to. I'm usually satisfied if only part of it goes the way I want it to. We're in the Sweet Sixteen. I'm satisfied. No complaints here. I sure as hell wouldn't call it being disrespected. When something happens frequently, there is less of a need to point it out.

Public reps, since that's apparently all I got!

Any lack of coverage, real or perceived, is a kind of a good thing. It says it's not a big story we are in. We are a great program, and that's not news. I love it, even if I enjoy hearing about my team.

[American X]

I think I might rip my heart out.

We would prefer to do it to West Virginia.

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[IM4X]

Funny, I started this thread because the X/FSU game was the first I noticed where a game was not discussed in the studio right after it finished. Being that it was a beat down on a heavily favored team made it all the more odd. It's not that Xavier necessarily deserved 5 minutes of discussion after the game in the CBS/TNT studio, but at least acknowledge that there was a game that finished and mention the score.

Though, I do love that all of those blowhard sports analyst tried to make X seem so inferior to the opponents they faced (and now they look like idiots). Also, I do think being a little disrespect is just what this X team needed: Press telling everyone they won't win (which fires them up), instead of flattering press (which could have lead to complacency).

A side note: I was a little surprised that our own Pete Gillen picked X to lose to Maryland. And then when he got that wrong he picked X to lose to FSU. And now he is picking X to lose to Arizona. I can only hope it's a superstitious/reverse psychology thing going on there.

[xu82]

My comments were to general X discussion as I didn't see the coverage until I got home and the recording quit right after the game. I didn't realize I missed.....nothing. I do agree being the underdog with an "us against the world" approach can be effective. As for Pete? Let the streak continue!

[IM4X]

And Jesus said of Peter (Gillen)...

“Before the rooster crows twice and the elite eight is set, you will deny your old school three times."

and so it was... Peter picked Maryland over X, Florida State over X, and Arizona over X.

Peter then remembered what Jesus had said to him and he broke down and wept.