General NCAA Tourney Talk

[D-West & PO-Z]

Thought I'd make a thread for general tourney talk for throughout the tourney.

I saw Bilas arguing for Syracuse on ESPN for way too long. Gross. They seriously spent the first 20 10-15 mins on Syracuse. Barf.

[xu82]

Thought I'd make a thread for general tourney talk for throughout the tourney.

I saw Bilas arguing for Syracuse on ESPN for way too long. Gross. They seriously spent the first 20 10-15 mins on Syracuse. Barf.

It's Bilas, so yes.....barf.

[xdude]

Like our first two round matchups better than UC, Dayton or Northern Kentucky... :)

It seems like Mick got a little payback for saying what everyone knows - along with general seeding, the NCAA and CBS are in it for the money. (Cronin referred to it as selling tickets, but that still makes it all about the money.) Facing UCLA in the second round is a tough matchup for UC.

In contrast, we should be able to handle Maryland and give Florida State all they want. Go X!

[paulxu]

This is cool, but doesn't help us a lot.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-march-madness-predictions/?addata=espn:frontpage

[waggy]

Bilas doesn't think enough "basketball people" are on the committee. I guess because the game of basketball is very difficult to understand.

Yesterday Bilas observed that Jalen Brunson is a good player.

[STL_XUfan]

Thought I'd make a thread for general tourney talk for throughout the tourney.

I saw Bilas arguing for Syracuse on ESPN for way too long. Gross. They seriously spent the first 20 10-15 mins on Syracuse. Barf.

I threw up a little in my mouth when Boeheim cited Cuse's BPI as a reason they should have been included.

[xu82]

This is cool, but doesn't help us a lot.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-march-madness-predictions/?addata=espn:frontpage

That's actually pretty cool. I think an 11 seed should be happy to see a 49% chance of winning against a 6 seed, but I'm hoping for better. As someone pointed out, Sagarin has us at 32 and them at 42. I want to see us play FSU.

[drudy23]

They are all in bed together...that's why Bilas is always the schill for the big boys. Nothing makes me happier than Boeheim likely calling someone to complain tonight.

[Juice]

I threw up a little in my mouth when Boeheim cited Cuse's BPI as a reason they should have been included.

He also cited head to head which isn't something the committee considers. He also said that the season started slow because of their NC SOS which was in the 200s on KenPom.

[GIMMFD]

They are all in bed together...that's why Bilas is always the schill for the big boys. Nothing makes me happier than Boeheim likely calling someone to complain tonight.

Only twice in 41 years has Boeheim lost 14 games in a season... it's been the last two seasons.

[chico]

Boeheim always looks like he just ate a lemon.

[Olsingledigit]

Only twice in 41 years has Boeheim lost 14 games in a season... it's been the last two seasons.

Boeheim is a cheater and whiner. Vitale spent months defending him as not being responsible for his nine game suspension. Are you kidding me? So glad to see him out.

[xu82]

Only twice in 41 years has Boeheim lost 14 games in a season... it's been the last two seasons.

That's a very interesting tidbit. I've never really liked the guy, despite my sister and some friends going to 'Cuse.

[GoMuskies]

This is cool, but doesn't help us a lot.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-march-madness-predictions/?addata=espn:frontpage

That underscores the absurdity of Wichita State's seeding...which is kind of great given that there's a good chance it fucks both Dayton and Kentucky!

[D-West & PO-Z]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/page/lunardi17Xavier/2017-ncaa-tournament-bracket-projections-xavier-musketeers

[GIMMFD]

That's a very interesting tidbit. I've never really liked the guy, despite my sister and some friends going to 'Cuse.

Eh I don't like the guy either, but I thought it was an interesting fact. I don't think Syracuse should have gotten in either way, they didn't deserve it. They played crap teams, and lost to crap teams.

[Irishjohn68]

Cuse does not belong in the tourney.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ha NIT, not NCAA but pretty good stuff here. Boeheim and the Cuse play UNC-GREENSBORO in the NIT 1st round. Classic after Boeheims greensboro comments last week.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18895404/2017-nit-syracuse-orange-play-unc-greensboro-week-jim-boeheim-took-shot-town

[xu82]

Ha NIT, not NCAA but pretty good stuff here. Boeheim and the Cuse play UNC-GREENSBORO in the NIT 1st round. Classic after Boeheims greensboro comments last week.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18895404/2017-nit-syracuse-orange-play-unc-greensboro-week-jim-boeheim-took-shot-town
What a jerk. "This year they decided to look at all of our ridiculous number of extensive and ugly losses". OK, that may not have been an exact quote.

[stammina0721]

I absolutely love Notre Dame in this bracket and think their only hurdle to the final four is Arizona. Please pass the Kool Aid on this one cause I'm taking a huge gulp

[stammina0721]

Was I the only one who was bummed about our draw in respect that when I saw St. Mary's I wanted that 10 seed so bad!!! Guaranteed first round win if we get them. By the way if that is a positive moneyline I'll be taking VCU in that one.

[xavierj]

Thought I'd make a thread for general tourney talk for throughout the tourney.

I saw Bilas arguing for Syracuse on ESPN for way too long. Gross. They seriously spent the first 20 10-15 mins on Syracuse. Barf.

That is shocking that Bilas was pissed about Syracuse, no it's not. Knew that was coming. Don't think it takes "basketball" people to see that you lost at home by a combined 40 to St. John's and Georgetown. Maybe people that are not basketball people don't get caught up in media spin and just realize that you are not good even though you beat a couple of good teams. Or maybe the ACC is not as strong as people make it out to be. We will see.

[xubrew]

What Syracuse did this year isn't actually that hard to do. People are too easily impressed with "top 50" wins. Well, if you beat a top 50 team at home that ultimately has a losing record on the road, then that's really not all that hard to do. That's all Syracuse did this year. They won two games total away from the Carrier Dome, one on a last second shot at Clemson who missed the tournament, and the other against an NC State team that has an overall losing record. I'm not convinced that Syracuse would beat anyone in this field from the #13 line on up if they were to play them on a neutral court. They were a home court hero that won some games at home against good teams that weren't nearly as good on the road.

[Muskie]

Ha NIT, not NCAA but pretty good stuff here. Boeheim and the Cuse play UNC-GREENSBORO in the NIT 1st round. Classic after Boeheims greensboro comments last week.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18895404/2017-nit-syracuse-orange-play-unc-greensboro-week-jim-boeheim-took-shot-town The NIT will be perfect for CUSE. They can play in their beloved state of New York virtually the whole tourney if they play their cards right.

[nuts4xu]

The NIT will be perfect for CUSE. They can play in their beloved state of New York virtually the whole tourney if they play their cards right.

At one point, I thought the NIT would only give a team 2 home games on their way to MSG. Anyone know if this is still true?

[GetUp5]

Was I the only one who was bummed about our draw in respect that when I saw St. Mary's I wanted that 10 seed so bad!!! Guaranteed first round win if we get them. By the way if that is a positive moneyline I'll be taking VCU in that one.

This seems to be a general way of thinking for fans of teams that aren't on the left coast. "Gonzaga and St. Mary's suck"... St. Mary's waltzed into UD arena and beat UD this year, something we've had a difficult time doing in the past. Yeah SMC's schedule sucks, but going 28-4 is a pretty tall task no matter who you play. 3 of their 4 losses were to the #4 overall team in the tournament.

I think the Zags make a run this year. Sweet 16 of Zags vs. ND will be fun if it happens. SMC has a pretty tough draw, but think they beat VCU and play Zona pretty close.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I like our current draw way better than the possible St. Mary's draw. I am surprised Maryland got a 6 seed. FSU would be easier to steal a win from than Zona, not to mention much better chance FSU gets upset in 1st round than Zona. Overall I dont think we could have gotten better draw.

[STL_XUfan]

What Syracuse did this year isn't actually that hard to do. People are too easily impressed with "top 50" wins. Well, if you beat a top 50 team at home that ultimately has a losing record on the road, then that's really not all that hard to do. That's all Syracuse did this year. They won two games total away from the Carrier Dome, one on a last second shot at Clemson who missed the tournament, and the other against an NC State team that has an overall losing record. I'm not convinced that Syracuse would beat anyone in this field from the #13 line on up if they were to play them on a neutral court. They were a home court hero that won some games at home against good teams that weren't nearly as good on the road.

Mizzou was only left out because the committee concentrated way too much on their losses. I mean if you look at their record in games they won against NCAA tournament teams, they were 2-0. That is the only thing the committee should care about.

[paulxu]

I mean if you look at their record in games they won against NCAA tournament teams, they were 2-0.

If I look at anybody's record in games they won...I would hope it would be SomeNumber-0.

[xubrew]

Mizzou was only left out because the committee concentrated way too much on their losses. I mean if you look at their record in games they won against NCAA tournament teams, they were 2-0. That is the only thing the committee should care about.

Thank you for this! It made my morning!

[American X]

So I think the committee used Sagarin to seed the field. I looked at it to fill a bracket (in particular the Recent rating) and got exactly four upsets by seed:

- Marquette over South Carolina
- Xavier over Maryland
- Wichita State over Dayton
- Kentucky over North Carolina

That's it. Not even an 8 over a 9 or a 5 over a 4.

Wichita State is such an outlier. Awesome power ranking numbers, but looks like committee pounded them for not playing or beating top teams.

[muskiefan82]

So I think the committee used Sagarin to seed the field. I looked at it to fill a bracket (in particular the Recent rating) and got exactly four upsets by seed:

- Marquette over South Carolina
- Xavier over Maryland
- Wichita State over Dayton
- Kentucky over North Carolina

That's it. Not even an 8 over a 9 or a 5 over a 4.

Wichita State is such an outlier. Awesome power ranking numbers, but looks like committee pounded them for not playing or beating top teams.

Clearly, Wichita State needs to be added to the schedule next year. Just because.

[GoMuskies]

Clearly, Wichita State needs to be added to the schedule next year. Just because.

As a road game. Just because.

[muskiefan82]

I was thinking of you Go when I said it.

[xubrew]

I don't think Illinois State would have made it even if they had gotten more games against the power teams. Having said that, it is complete bullshit that teams like Wichita State and Illinois State and Middle Tennessee and UNCW (just to name a few) are being criticized by people who won't play them about how they don't play anybody.

[stammina0721]

This seems to be a general way of thinking for fans of teams that aren't on the left coast. "Gonzaga and St. Mary's suck"... St. Mary's waltzed into UD arena and beat UD this year, something we've had a difficult time doing in the past. Yeah SMC's schedule sucks, but going 28-4 is a pretty tall task no matter who you play. 3 of their 4 losses were to the #4 overall team in the tournament.

I think the Zags make a run this year. Sweet 16 of Zags vs. ND will be fun if it happens. SMC has a pretty tough draw, but think they beat VCU and play Zona pretty close.

St. Mary's sucks. I've watched them a lot this year along with the Zags. Both are grossly overrated. If Notre Dame doesn't beat Gonzaga the only reason will be because West Virginia beat them. In that scenario West Virginia will beat Gonzaga.

As far as St. Mary's just look what you did. You justified them by how they played against Dayton. That tells me what I need to know. Schedule matters and St. Mary's record is indicative of that. VCU will beat them that is one of my moneyline bets

[American X]

I also looked at Kenpom which provides some weird results:

- SMU over Baylor & Duke to Elite Eight
- St. Mary's over Florida State & Arizona to Elite Eight

[muskiefan82]

I also looked at Kenpom which provides some weird results:

- SMU over Baylor & Duke to Elite Eight
- St. Mary's over Florida State & Arizona to Elite Eight

I am wondering if the ACC will be revealed as not that great top to bottom in this tournament.

[GetUp5]

I don't think Illinois State would have made it even if they had gotten more games against the power teams. Having said that, it is complete bullshit that teams like Wichita State and Illinois State and Middle Tennessee and UNCW (just to name a few) are being criticized by people who won't play them about how they don't play anybody.

Looks like Dan Muller's twitter plea/joke got them a home and home with Ole Miss today. Pretty funny.

[xubrew]

Looks like Dan Muller's twitter plea/joke got them a home and home with Ole Miss today. Pretty funny.

I think it got them called out by Ole Miss. To me the insinuation seemed to be that Ole Miss was willing to play them. Not that playing Ole Miss would have helped a whole lot this year, but...

[AviatorX]

Clearly, Wichita State needs to be added to the schedule next year. Just because.

Honestly, it is getting to the point with their unique seeding situation where you might as well just play them in the regular season so you know they won't end up horrifically under seeded across from you on Selection Sunday.

[slysyl]

Just noticed the NCAA BRACKET is line for line BRACKETMATRIX 100 %. The committee didn't work as hard as they want us to think they have.

[waggy]

So no scrubbing?

[XUFan09]

Just noticed the NCAA BRACKET is line for line BRACKETMATRIX 100 %. The committee didn't work as hard as they want us to think they have.
The Bracket Matrix is the composite of a whole lot of people working together itself. Also, this Committee was a lot more forthcoming with information than any previous one, which made things a lot easier. For example, just seeing the top 16 teams gave people an idea of which criteria mattered most to this Committee.

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[American X]

Is there any correlation between winning conference tournaments and winning in the NCAA Tournament?

It did not help Villanova two years ago (crying flute girl!), but it did not matter to them last year.

[xu82]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2749274/images/o-NOVA-CRYING-FLUTE-facebook.jpg

But look, she's famous! Just Google "crying flute girls and countless images come up!

[XMuskieFTW]

Just noticed the NCAA BRACKET is line for line BRACKETMATRIX 100 %. The committee didn't work as hard as they want us to think they have.

Bracket Matrix updates to what the committee assigns after the selection show. If you look at the average seed #, they aren't in order.

[muskiefan82]

Honestly, it is getting to the point with their unique seeding situation where you might as well just play them in the regular season so you know they won't end up horrifically under seeded across from you on Selection Sunday.

UK clearly needs to schedule Wichita State for exactly this reason.

[Masterofreality]

Xavier mentioned in here.
Mizzou game was unbelievable. First step to greatness http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-march-madness-ranking-greatest-first-round-upsets-3-14-seeds-xavier-ohio-weber-state/giczeh4r32xs1vb7pvt4nijn1

[stammina0721]

Xavier mentioned in here.
Mizzou game was unbelievable. First step to greatness http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-tournament-march-madness-ranking-greatest-first-round-upsets-3-14-seeds-xavier-ohio-weber-state/giczeh4r32xs1vb7pvt4nijn1

I'd imagine there may be one more on here from X. Maybe the Georgetown game

[GoMuskies]

The ex-Huggins Bowl is set for Sac-town. The nation awaits with baited breath.

[Nigel Tufnel]

How many of those Dayton mouth breathers were jerking off in the stands to those USC cheerleaders? My guess...a lot.

[D-West & PO-Z]

How many of those Dayton mouth breathers were jerking off in the stands to those USC cheerleaders? My guess...a lot.

Et tu Nigel? :biggrin:

[Juice]

How many of those Dayton mouth breathers were jerking off in the stands to those USC cheerleaders? My guess...a lot.

It was probably like something out of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

[ammtd34]

St. Mary's sucks. I've watched them a lot this year along with the Zags. Both are grossly overrated. If Notre Dame doesn't beat Gonzaga the only reason will be because West Virginia beat them. In that scenario West Virginia will beat Gonzaga.

As far as St. Mary's just look what you did. You justified them by how they played against Dayton. That tells me what I need to know. Schedule matters and St. Mary's record is indicative of that. VCU will beat them that is one of my moneyline bets

Winning a road game against Dayton isn't exactly easy.

[GoMuskies]

Winning a road game against Dayton isn't exactly easy.

Yeah, how did VCU do against Dayton in Dayton?

In any event, I DO have VCU winning. I think this one's a toss-up, and I think their style of play will give SMC issues. But if VCU goes cold from the field, SMC could easily win.

[X-band '01]

Saint Mary's only losses were to Gonzaga and a UT-Arlington team that was playing fully healthy back in December. VCU managed to mess the bed at Fordham and at home against La Salle.

[ammtd34]

How many of those Dayton mouth breathers were jerking off in the stands to those USC cheerleaders? My guess...a lot.

Hahaha, the USC dance team and Jalen Lindsey were the highlights of the first half for sure.

[X-band '01]

How many of those Dayton mouth breathers were jerking off in the stands to those USC cheerleaders? My guess...a lot.


Et tu Nigel? :biggrin:


It was probably like something out of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

This is practically begging for watermelon jokes.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think St. Mary's beats VCU.

Weirdly enough 538 has St. Marys with like a 7% chance at either the finals or winning it all. It was like the best % for any team under a 3 seed I think.

[AviatorX]

I think St. Mary's beats VCU.

Weirdly enough 538 has St. Marys with like a 7% chance at either the finals or winning it all. It was like the best % for any team under a 3 seed I think.

The analytics love them. KenPom has them basically equal to Duke, and actually would favor them over Arizona.

I think VCU can clip them if they push them around a little bit. St. Mary's is fun to watch when they do what they do, but let's see how they respond to some serious physicality. Granted that's basically VCU's strategy against everyone.

[Masterofreality]

Honestly, wtf happened to Providence last night? I was in the Atlanta airport until halftime watching the game with Providence going to the locker room with a 14 point lead. On a plane the entire second half and they lose.

Did they just decide to lay down on the court and quit defending? They gave up 46 points in the second half!!!

[Nigel Tufnel]

Et tu Nigel? :biggrin:

Sorry...couldn't resist. Low hanging fruit (watermelon?). That was for you, X-band.

[Juice]

Honestly, wtf happened to Providence last night? I was in the Atlanta airport until halftime watching the game with Providence going to the locker room with a 14 point lead. On a plane the entire second half and they lose.

Did they just decide to lay down on the court and quit defending? They gave up 46 points in the second half!!!

What happened? They're an Ed Cooley coached team in the tournament.

[D-West & PO-Z]

UVA coming back strong. 2 point game.

[GoMuskies]

Kevin Keatts handed over the reins to Ed Cooley for a two minute stretch?!?

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think both 5 seeds playing now move on. Then I think the other two 5 v 12 matchups go to the 12 seeds.

[GoMuskies]

Just as long as UVA moves on by less than 7.5 points.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just as long as UVA moves on by less than 7.5 points.

Haha, I'm good with that.

BTW the "first to 15 bet" is 1-1 for the dogs. So guess I'd be about even right now.

Edit: 1 and 1 as in 1 for 2. just to be clear

[GoMuskies]

At least Butler is taking care of busin-ass so far.

[xu82]

I made amends to a group of Wisconsin fans last night. Bought them a pitcher and got to talking. All part of the healing process.

[GoMuskies]

WTF is Gonzaga doing? They're about to make this interesting with the 16 seed, aren't they?

[paulxu]

UVA escapes.

[GoMuskies]

Fighting Kelseys making some noise.

[X-band '01]

UVA escapes.

Notre Dame also avoided a relapse to their old ways after Princeton missed a go-ahead 3 in the closing seconds.

[Tardy Turtle]

Karnowski is a very large human or a medium-sized bison.

[xu82]

Survive and advance.....

[GoMuskies]

Butler needs to hold this 11+ point advantage! Getting a little tight.

[muskiefan82]

This is hard, but GOOD JOB Butler.

[AviatorX]

Butler needs to hold this 11+ point advantage! Getting a little tight.

Man, I had the exact opposite feeling at the end there. Can't believe that dude missed that free throw. Least he could have done is throw up a 3 at the end.

[GoMuskies]

Well, I had the Zags -22, so you win some tight ones at the end, and you lose some tight ones at the end.

[Nigel Tufnel]

I took MId Tenn on principle alone. A 12 giving a 5 points? Don't care if it wins or not. Had to do it.

[GoMuskies]

I took MId Tenn on principle alone. A 12 giving a 5 points? Don't care if it wins or not. Had to do it.

They're favored by 5 now?!? Sonofabitch. A buddy and I do daily 2 team parlays where we each pick a game, and his pick was Minnesota. +1. Fuck.

Oh, nevermind. I see that you just mean that Middle was favored. I still hated (and REALLY hate now) Minnesota.

[paulxu]

My bracket is about to go sideways.

[paulxu]

Also, nice little spot of Bill Murray as X supporter in Sports Illustrated.
Wonder if he made the trip.

[bobbiemcgee]

Poor kid from Vandy thought they were behind and fouled. NU wins.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Poor kid from Vandy thought they were behind and fouled. NU wins.

Brutal.

I picked NW tho so helped me.

[GoMuskies]

Nova is getting into everyone is cheering wildly for the 16 seed territory.

[paulxu]

Tournament is chalk so far...except for MTSU...and THE MUSKIES.

[X Factor]

That Ojo "kid" (looks like he's 40) for FSU looks like he should be a WWE wrestler...he is massive. Not real skilled however.

[X Factor]

If FSU wins, I think some zone defense could be effective against them. They're so long and athletic but not great shooters.

[Strange Brew]

Terence Mann plays for FGCU? What a renaissance man. Ease his pain Ray.

[GoMuskies]

Florida Gulf Coast seems finished.

[paulxu]

There are some really tall guys on the FSU team.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Florida Gulf Coast seems finished.

Goodwin with the and 1. He is going to have to just be ridiculous the rest of the way.

[X-band '01]

Florida Gulf Coast seems finished.

You know why he stopped writing, don't you?

[D-West & PO-Z]

FSU trying to blow this game. Hope they do!

[Muskie]

I think we are going to have problems with Ojo. He's a big presence in the lane.


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[muskiefan82]

The perfect day today:

Seton Hall, Marquette, and Creighton emerge victorious

USC smacks down SMU

Kansas St. sends UC packing

Wichita St. proves they really were seeded low and dismantles the Flyers completely.

NKU and UK go back and forth the whole game before NKU hits a desperation 3 at the end of regulation to win it.

Kent St. throttles UCLA and Alford immediately takes the IU job eliminating it from the list of potential opportunities Mack might be interested in.

Let's go Big East!!

[BMoreX]

OK State is a blast to watch

[muskiefan82]

OK State is a blast to watch

Are they more fun than BYU?

[bobbiemcgee]

Pirates vs Pigs, 23-21 pigs right now.

[bobbiemcgee]

If FSU wins, I think some zone defense could be effective against them. They're so long and athletic but not great shooters.

Tallest team in Nation avg 6'6"

[paulxu]

Michigan 11-15 from 3 in second half.
Unconscious.

[BMoreX]

This is a wild game

[muskiefan82]

Someone poked the Baylor Bear.

[paulxu]

Hope the Hall gets on fire in the second half.

[X-band '01]

Pirates woke up, Paul.

Currently on an 18-5 binge.

[Strange Brew]

Hall just got hosed

[BMoreX]

Refs just decided the SH game

[bourbonman]

Agreed. Total BS ending

[xeus]

Fuck that. What a joke.

[xu82]

Refs just decided the SH game

No kidding! And Seth Davis embarrassed himself with that "you have to make a play on the ball" stuff, but that is never called. I couldn't hear the whole thing but had closed caption in a bar. Silly. That late travel call was technically correct, but they travel about 1/4 of the time when they catch a pass outside the arc. The problem with basketball wears a striped shirt.

[AviatorX]

No kidding! And Seth Davis embarrassed himself with that "you have to make a play on the ball" stuff, but that is never called. I couldn't hear the whole thing but had closed caption in a bar. Silly. That late travel call was technically correct, but they travel about 1/4 of the time when they catch a pass outside the arc. The problem with basketball wears a striped shirt.

Seth Davis saying it's not even a close call is amazing.

[paulxu]

Well crap. My bracket is shot to shit.

[XU 23]

SMU up by 1 with 5:32 to go.

[XU 23]

SMU goes down...

[Masterofreality]

Creighton looks soft and like absolute crap.

C'mon Jays. Get your freaking act together. Losing to an A10 team is absolutely unacceptable.

[AviatorX]

Creighton looks soft and like absolute crap.

C'mon Jays. Get your freaking act together. Losing to an A10 team is absolutely unacceptable.

Not surprised they look bad. Like you said, they are wayyyyy soft and URI is anything but. Xavier pushed Creighton around last week too but they were unconscious from 3.

[Masterofreality]

Refs just decided the SH game

Two ways. First totally missed an obvious travel, then that garbage Flagrant call. At that time of the game. In an NCAA game.

Where was that ref when Greg Oden mauled Justin Cage?

[Strange Brew]

Where was that ref when Greg Oden mauled Justin Cage?

Choking on his whistle which he likely displays as a trophy in his office as the BE head of officiating.

[Masterofreality]

Choking on his whistle which he likely displays as a trophy in his office as the BE head of officiating.

Unfortunately, I know.

[paulxu]

God I wish you guys hadn't brought that up. It's a recurring nightmare.

Meanwhile, a 6 seed in this tournament is not a good place to be.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Fuck that. What a joke.

Absolutely ridiculous.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Where was that ref when Greg Oden mauled Justin Cage?

HAHA that is what I would like to know MOR!

[Masterofreality]

Creighton's weak effort is really pissing me off.

It's like they're from the Missouri Valley Conference or something.

........Oh, wait.....

[xu82]

What happened to the team that can't miss a friggin' 3?

[smileyy]

I'm borderline on that flagrant call. It was a really nice flop by the Arkansas player. I think the call was more on the "intentional" side than the "dangerous" side, because that was a shove in the back by the Seton Hall player, and nothing at all like a play on the ball. C'mon....you have to know how to foul at this level.

[DWXU23]

I have no confidence in Williard, McDermott or Cooley ever doing anything significant in the tournament. Choke jobs year after year.

[Masterofreality]

Creighton should be abjectly ashamed of this lard ass performance today.

It would be appropriate if they wound up scoring 69. That certainly would mirror their "nice" effort.

[Masterofreality]

Creighton should be abjectly ashamed of this lard ass performance today.

It would be appropriate if they wound up scoring 69. That certainly would mirror their "nice" effort.

And they even screw up the joke.

[GoMuskies]

Creighton should be abjectly ashamed of this lard ass performance today.

It would be appropriate if they wound up scoring 69. That certainly would mirror their "nice" effort.


Predictable. I was all over URI. Just hope that's the last win an A-10 team gets today!

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm borderline on that flagrant call. It was a really nice flop by the Arkansas player. I think the call was more on the "intentional" side than the "dangerous" side, because that was a shove in the back by the Seton Hall player, and nothing at all like a play on the ball. C'mon....you have to know how to foul at this level.

His legs got tripped up, that is why he fell, not because of a push. Of course it was "intentional" but if his legs dont get tripped up he doesnt fall and there is no flagrant. Dumb call.

[Masterofreality]

Ok, time for the "Root Against" portion of the program.

Against udump
Against SucKS

There is no "For". Only hopes of horrificness from those cretins.

[smileyy]

I'm in favor of "no play on the ball" resulting in two shots and the ball every time. Make a play on the ball, even if you intend to foul.

[X-band '01]

It's going to be an awkward 48 hours for Providence fans. Not only did URI beat Creighton, USC also got to knock off SMU instead of the Friars.

This was pointed out to me by a UConn blogger - the last time SMU won an NCAA Tournament game, Good Morning Vietnam was #1 in the box office and Rick Astley was #1 on the music charts with Never Gonna Give You Up. I shit you not.

[Masterofreality]

Quite frankly, and I hate the dump, but it's too bad that Softee Creighton didn't defend like the Cryers. They get after it.

[GoMuskies]

Quite frankly, and I hate the dump, but it's too bad that Softee Creighton didn't defend like the Cryers. They get after it.

Yeah, this game is like two identical teams playing each other. I'm afraid Scoochie is going to get the big shot and hit it.

[paulxu]

I didn't see the Creighton game.
But looking at the box score, they scored the same number of baskets as URI...26.
Creighton had 3 more 3's...which is an advantage of 3 pts.

But...URI had 12 more FTs and made 15 more than Creighton. So it was lost at the line.

Did Creighton just foul a LOT? or was it called tighter on them?

[Strange Brew]

And I-70 will be a trail of tears tonight.

[GoMuskies]

Difference for Wichita was just pounding Dayton on the glass.

[X Factor]

Dayton shot 31% from the field and got out-rebounded by 20. Dayton has no size. That'll get ya every time. They end season on 3 game losing streak.

Does IU come calling for Archie?

[Juice]

Dayton shot 31% from the field and got out-rebounded by 20. Dayton has no size. That'll get ya every time. They end season on 3 game losing streak.

Does IU come calling for Archie?

I think if they're top 3-4 options say no.

[GoMuskies]

Cryer fans are crying about the refs, so at least they have somewhere to project their rage. Refs and watermelon.

[paulxu]

Archie is on the Shaka trajectory.
Catch lighting one year (with some of Gregory's players) going to E8, then play-in with one win, now 2 years bounced in first round.
The bloom might start to fade, and I think he might go if he gets a good offer.
Thought it would be NCState. Can't quite imagine he's got the track record for Indiana.

[Juice]

Archie is on the Shaka trajectory.
Catch lighting one year (with some of Gregory's players) going to E8, then play-in with one win, now 2 years bounced in first round.
The bloom might start to fade, and I think he might go if he gets a good offer.
Thought it would be NCState. Can't quite imagine he's got the track record for Indiana.

Illinois is open, or I guess he could wait for OSU.

[bleedXblue]

Archie is on the Shaka trajectory.
Catch lighting one year (with some of Gregory's players) going to E8, then play-in with one win, now 2 years bounced in first round.
The bloom might start to fade, and I think he might go if he gets a good offer.
Thought it would be NCState. Can't quite imagine he's got the track record for Indiana.

Agree that he is going to take something soon, but you're really discounting what Smart did and Archie is still on a lot of short lists.

[paulxu]

Agree that he is going to take something soon, but you're really discounting what Smart did and Archie is still on a lot of short lists.

I don't discount it at all. Both are good coaches.
Just notice that after a while, if you don't get that repeat success, the offers might be for less.
NB: Sean Miller and Thad Matta; no waiting around.

[X Factor]

Only Xavier and Nova remain from the BE...some big turds laid.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Thanks for showing up today Big East.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Only Xavier and Nova remain from the BE...some big turds laid.

Butler too.

[xeus]

Only Xavier and Nova remain from the BE...some big turds laid.

And Butler.

[xudash]

Only Xavier and Nova remain from the BE...some big turds laid.

And Butler.

[X Factor]

...and Butler (forgot about them)

Thanks everyone for reminding me at the same time :facepalm:

[GoMuskies]

Don't forget Butler.

[Strange Brew]

X should put NKY on the schedule.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Proud of my Norse. Sure UK was in control for most of the night, but for NKU to only lose to them by 9 in their first ever tourney appearance? I have no complaints.

[xu82]

.....and Butler.

[bobbiemcgee]

I think Butler's still in there....

[Masterofreality]

Archie is on the Shaka trajectory.
Catch lighting one year (with some of Gregory's players) going to E8, then play-in with one win, now 2 years bounced in first round.
The bloom might start to fade, and I think he might go if he gets a good offer.
Thought it would be NCState. Can't quite imagine he's got the track record for Indiana.

Don't forget that udump started 4, how many? FOUR seniors. The guy that saved them all year...like Jordan Sibert before him....Scootchie Smith is gone. There is no one on the barren landscape of dayton to save them on the team like those guys..and no one coming in.

Archie has to move on after this year, just like Shaka had to. Arch is a much better coach than Smart without the histrionics and carnival gimmicks, so he'll be more successful. Shaka continues on the road to failure at Texas, but at least he'll get paid.

By the way. Anyone listen to the Press Conference of Chris Mack yesterday? Sure doesn't sound like he's going anywhere.

"The grass isn't always greener".

[xubrew]

X should put NKY on the schedule.

I agree, but you and I may be the only ones. It's a winnable road game where half the fans would be cheering for Xavier when the game was at NKU, and even if we lose (which won't happen often, then oh well). Losing by 27 (or whatever it was) to Middle Tennessee didn't sink Vandy. Fouling while ahead against Northwestern did, but not losing to Middle Tennessee.


Proud of my Norse. Sure UK was in control for most of the night, but for NKU to only lose to them by 9 in their first ever tourney appearance? I have no complaints.

They actually ran their offense really effectively against Kentucky, but couldn't knock down the open looks, and NKU is a good shooting team. But, yes, they played well.

Four starters back, as well as their entire bench. NKU will be good next year. Probably much better than a #15 seed if they're able to make the tournament. Hell, if they build their schedule right and everything falls their way then who knows? They need to give themselves a chance to make the NCAA Tournament without having to win the HL Tournament. Even if they don't pick up the wins that they need early in the year, I hope they at least give themselves the chances to get them.

[paulxu]

This tournament could end up chalk after Sunday night.

Let's be the one that screws that up tonight.

[xubrew]

Archie is on the Shaka trajectory.
Catch lighting one year (with some of Gregory's players) going to E8, then play-in with one win, now 2 years bounced in first round.
The bloom might start to fade, and I think he might go if he gets a good offer.
Thought it would be NCState. Can't quite imagine he's got the track record for Indiana.

I never thought I'd say this about NC State, but they actually made a great hire. Given the choice between the two, I would have gone with Keatts. NC State did something that was not only not stupid, but very smart, when it came to their basketball program. I'm rather stunned.

[Juice]

The "new Big East" has sucked in the tournament outside of Villanova.

[GoMuskies]

The "new Big East" has sucked in the tournament outside of Villanova.

We've been fine. One bad loss, of course, but we've more than held our own. Need ato LEAST two wins today. Hopefully X is one of them!

[Juice]

I'm sure UC fans are really excited about their team's win over Notre Dame.

[RealDeal]

Fuck Wisconsin.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Nova getting it going and 2 of Wisconsin's best players in foul trouble.

[paulxu]

Come on Nova. Get this.

[X Factor]

Back to crapping bed for Nova.

They just haven't looked good today, and didn't necessarily look good on Thursday. How many times have tbey lost as a 1 or 2 seed in the first weekend?

[BMoreX]

Not a good look for the Big East thus far

[LA Muskie]

I hate Wisconsin.


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[Juice]

The "new Big East" has sucked in the tournament outside of Villanova.

I feel like I need to repeat this.

[Muskie]

Man that stung.


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[Strange Brew]

Not a good look for the Big East thus far

Not getting much help from the stripes. Should've been an intentional on the steal by Divenchenso (so?)

[BandAid]

Fuck Wisconsin.

[AviatorX]

Not a good look for the Big East thus far

Eh, not really into judging conferences based on the tournament. The money from the units helps, but perception wise I'm kinda over it. I watched a lot of Big 10 and a lot of Big East this year. Wasn't even close.

Nova won the title last year and plenty still don't respect the Big East. Nothing is going to change the minds of people who will never see it the same way.

As long as the selection committee respects the conference, the rest is just gravy.

[X Factor]

I feel like I need to repeat this.

Winning a national championship earns you a lot bonus points, but Nova has been knocked out of the tourney in the first or second round as a 1 or 2 seed a lot lately.

The BE needs more teams to start making g noise in the tourney.

[Masterofreality]

The Committee set Villanova up to fail. It was BS that they were calling 'Nova as the overall #1 seed because they sure didn't give them a path like one. Made Wiscy an 8, SMU a 6 and South Carolina a 7. Wiscy was wasaaay better than both of them. They never seem to screw Duke that way. Other 8 seeds were Northwestern, Arkansas and Miami, Fla. All waaaaay worse than Wisconsin.

Wisconsin beat another "8 seed" Northwestern by TWENTY EIGHT POINTS in the Big 10 Tournament, but you're telling me that Villanova is the "overall number 1 seed" with an easier path? Bool Sheet!

Villanova got the biggest screw job A) Of any defending National Champion, B) ANY supposed "Overall Number 1 Seed".
It was almost like the Committee was pissed that one of the non Power 5 won the whole thing last year and they were having NONE of that this year.

[bjf123]

Back to crapping bed for Nova.

They just haven't looked good today, and didn't necessarily look good on Thursday. How many times have tbey lost as a 1 or 2 seed in the first weekend?

This makes four. I didn't think they'd repeat, but thought they'd be playing next weekend.


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[Strange Brew]

The Committee set Villanova up to fail. It was BS that they were calling 'Nova as the overall #1 seed because they sure didn't give them a path like one. Made Wiscy an 8, SMU a 6 and South Carolina a 7. Wiscy was wasaaay better than both of them. They never seem to screw Duke that way. Other 8 seeds were Northwestern, Arkansas and Miami, Fla. All waaaaay worse than Wisconsin.

Wisconsin beat another "8 seed" Northwestern by TWENTY EIGHT POINTS in the Big 10 Tournament, but you're telling me that Villanova is the "overall number 1 seed" with an easier path? Bool Sheet!

Villanova got the biggest screw job A) Of any defending National Champion, B) ANY supposed "Overall Number 1 Seed".
It was almost like the Committee was pissed that one of the non Power 5 won the whole thing last year and they were having NONE of that this year.

Yup, well said.

[AviatorX]

The Committee set Villanova up to fail. It was BS that they were calling 'Nova as the overall #1 seed because they sure didn't give them a path like one. Made Wiscy an 8, SMU a 6 and South Carolina a 7. Wiscy was wasaaay better than both of them. They never seem to screw Duke that way. Other 8 seeds were Northwestern, Arkansas and Miami, Fla. All waaaaay worse than Wisconsin.

Wisconsin beat another "8 seed" Northwestern by TWENTY EIGHT POINTS in the Big 10 Tournament, but you're telling me that Villanova is the "overall number 1 seed" with an easier path? Bool Sheet!

Villanova got the biggest screw job A) Of any defending National Champion, B) ANY supposed "Overall Number 1 Seed".
It was almost like the Committee was pissed that one of the non Power 5 won the whole thing last year and they were having NONE of that this year.

I think (could be wrong here) the only guarantees of being the #1 overall seed are you get first pick of location (wouldn't have been an issue for Nova this year anyway) and avoid having the team that's #5 on the s-curve. Both of those happened. Baylor is probably the weakest 3. The 5 in Nova's region was mediocre down the stretch and lost to Nova a month and a half ago. The 4 lost their only interior presence to injury and lost to Vandy twice in the last week of the season.

Nova just didn't get the job done. It happens sometimes in a single elimination tournament. Especially when the other team makes some big plays.

[paulxu]

If you went by Pomeroy, Nova would have been the second #1 seed, but would have been playing an #8 of Wake or Rhode Island.
Wisky should have been a #6 under his rankings.

[Masterofreality]

I think (could be wrong here) the only guarantees of being the #1 overall seed are you get first pick of location (wouldn't have been an issue for Nova this year anyway) and avoid having the team that's #5 on the s-curve. Both of those happened. Baylor is probably the weakest 3. The 5 in Nova's region was mediocre down the stretch and lost to Nova a month and a half ago. The 4 lost their only interior presence to injury and lost to Vandy twice in the last week of the season.

Nova just didn't get the job done. It happens sometimes in a single elimination tournament. Especially when the other team makes some big plays.

Nova got screwed playing Wisconsin. Why not Northwestern?

[AviatorX]

Nova got screwed playing Wisconsin. Why not Northwestern?

They aren't entitled to the weakest of every seed line. I agree Wisconsin isn't an 8, but that screwed Wisconsin just as much as Nova.

[Masterofreality]

They aren't entitled to the weakest of every seed line. I agree Wisconsin isn't an 8, but that screwed Wisconsin just as much as Nova.

If Northwestern is an 8, they should have been playing Nova. Period.

Would have been an easy switch.

[X Factor]

St. Marys up 10 on Arizona...

[Masterofreality]

F the Committee! Let's get 2 Big East teams in the Sweet 16!

[BMoreX]

I know nothing about St Marys

[GIMMFD]

I know nothing about St Marys

Except Gonzaga waxed them all season. That's about it.

[paulxu]

Horrible calls (it looks like) in the Arizona/St Mary's game.
I think they want Zona to play us.

[mohr5150]

St. Mary's got absolutely jobbed by the refs. I lost count of the number of questionable calls they had go against them.

[X Factor]

Bring on the Lexus...

[D-West & PO-Z]

Remaining in our regions:
X
Miller
Huggins
Gonzaga (who most of us believe doesnt warrant more praise and attention than our Xavier program based on results)

[Juice]

Remaining in our regions:
X
Miller
Huggins
Gonzaga (who most of us believe doesnt warrant more praise and attention than our Xavier program based on results)

F*ck all of them

[paulxu]

What the hell happened to Virginia?

[drudy23]

St. Mary's got absolutely jobbed by the refs. I lost count of the number of questionable calls they had go against them.

St Marys - horrible call with the game in the balance
Seton Hall - horrible call with the game in the balance
Northwestern - horrible call with the game in the balance - then an absolute joke of a technical when coach reacts to said horrible call. Pathetic officiating in that circumstance.

These games shouldn't be being decided by the whistle. Pathetic.

[Juice]

St Marys - horrible call with the game in the balance
Seton Hall - horrible call with the game in the balance
Northwestern - horrible call with the game in the balance - then an absolute joke of a technical when coach reacts to said horrible call. Pathetic officiating in that circumstance.

These games shouldn't be being decided by the whistle. Pathetic.

Collins was right to be pissed but he deserved the T. He was on the court.

[GoMuskies]

Remaining in our regions:
X
Miller
Huggins
Gonzaga (who most of us believe doesnt warrant more praise and attention than our Xavier program based on results)

Who are these people that don't believe Gonzaga deserve's more accolades than us. They've had a bit more Tournament success, plus on the court they've wailed on us 2 of the 3 times we played them (and won the other matchup, too). That would make for one kick ass regional final, though. One program finally breaking through. In truth Huggy is the only guy left in our region not trying to get that Final Four monkey off his back.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Who are these people that don't believe Gonzaga deserve's more accolades than us. They've had a bit more Tournament success, plus on the court they've wailed on us 2 of the 3 times we played them (and won the other matchup, too). That would make for one kick ass regional final, though. One program finally breaking through. In truth Huggy is the only guy left in our region not trying to get that Final Four monkey off his back.

Since 2000:

Gonzaga 6 Sweet 16's and 1 Elite 8.

Xavier 6 Sweet 16's and 2 Elite 8's.

The only 2 games I remember were both close one as a 14 seed in the tourney we barely lost and the other (post brawl) we lost was close as well. Stil trying to navigate post brawl. Cant remember the 3rd but even so they dont have better tourney success than we do.

They have been better in the regular season and better marketing for sure. But the difference doesnt warrant the difference in attention they get.

[GoMuskies]

We played them home and away, and they won both easily.

[XU 87]

St. Mary's got absolutely jobbed by the refs. I lost count of the number of questionable calls they had go against them.

The push off they called against the guy who was flying in for the rebound at the end was horrible. The St. Mary's guy got pushed out of bounds and got called for the foul. I have no idea what that ref thought he saw. That was a game changer.

[PattyMac1021]

Purdue looked like they were about to do to Iowa State what X did to Florida State. They were up 19 in the second half. And now it's a two point game, ISU ball.

[GoMuskies]

Can't believe Iowa State let them get that rebound on the FT!

[X Factor]

Virginia scored 39 points...for the game!!

[GoMuskies]

Virginia scored 39 points...for the game!!

Indiana fans will riot if they try to hire Bennett.

[Masterofreality]

2 Big East teams in the Sweet 16. Most the ACC can have is 3 if they all sweep today. Dook, Louisville, North Carolina.

For the "Greatest Conference ever" that is meh.

[paulxu]

2 Big East teams in the Sweet 16. Most the ACC can have is 3 if they all sweep today. Dook, Louisville, North Carolina.

For the "Greatest Conference ever" that is meh.

I know it's farting in the wind, but I sure wish Nova was there with us.

[paulxu]

ESPN is starting to be like Dayton.
Dayton fans get more enjoyment out of us losing, than their own team winning.
ESPN is wallowing in Nova's loss. They cant' get enough of it.

[MauriceX]

The "new Big East" has sucked in the tournament outside of Villanova.

My friend went through and tallied it up. Including last night's results, Nova has won 8 tournament games. Xavier has won 5. Butler has won 4. Everyone else has 1 or 0. (And surprisingly, St. John's is not one of the teams with 0).

[MauriceX]

If you went by Pomeroy, Nova would have been the second #1 seed, but would have been playing an #8 of Wake or Rhode Island.
Wisky should have been a #6 under his rankings.

According to this article (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/villanova-wisconsin-ncaa-tournament/)from 538, KenPom had Wisconsin being most similar to teams such as Butler (4 seed), FSU (3 seed... though totally beatable :medicated: ), and Arizona (2 seed). That said, they also pointed out that Wisconsin played well above season averages and Nova played well below season averages, so credit still goes to Wisconsin/blame to Nova, however you wanna see it.

[Juice]

According to this article (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/villanova-wisconsin-ncaa-tournament/)from 538, KenPom had Wisconsin being most similar to teams such as Butler (4 seed), FSU (3 seed... though totally beatable :medicated: ), and Arizona (2 seed). That said, they also pointed out that Wisconsin played well above season averages and Nova played well below season averages, so credit still goes to Wisconsin/blame to Nova, however you wanna see it.

Bracket Matrix had Wisconsin as a 6 seed. That being said, Nova still should have beat them.

[bleedXblue]

Nova being lined up to have to play WI, FL and Duke....just to get to the Final 4 was a joke. By far the hardest slate for the #1 overall seed. Wi is no 8 and Minnesota being given a 5 was criminal. I cant remember a tourney were there was more mis-seedings than this year.

[paulxu]

Could one of you guys help me out?
There are comments in a lot of places (which I come across, and then of course promptly forget where) about Xavier's performance in the NCAA's over the last few years.
Things like: X is one of 8 teams to have made it to 11 out of the last 12 tournaments (just an example, and not sure about it)

But I'd like to nail a couple of those down, with the other teams listed, of our recent accomplishments. Tournaments, S16's, etc. This would help me in discussions here in ACC territory.

Any help is appreciated.

[chico]

So now it's the Big 10's year since Michigan beat Louisville. Of course, they won't mention that 6 seed Maryland went down in the first round.

[GoMuskies]

This Kentucky/ Wichita State game is a struggle so far. I'm afraid UK is going to rip off a run and WSU won't be able to keep up. Just more offense on that side of the court.

[usfldan]

So now it's the Big 10's year since Michigan beat Louisville. Of course, they won't mention that 6 seed Maryland went down in the first round.

The Big 10 also had the best seed to lose in Round 1 (#5 Minnesota). It's been an uneven tournament for them, and just timing that they have three in so far. The Pac-12, Big 12, and SEC still have a shot at having three in the Sweet 16 as well.

The hopes of the ACC, meanwhile, rests with UNC and Duke (as usual). Nine teams, four protected seeds - two others were 5 seeds, and they are still looking for their first Sweet 16 entrant.

[GoMuskies]

Fuck, Fuck, Fuck

[muskiefan82]

Fuck, Fuck, Fuck

What?!?!

Oh. Wichita St. Got it

[D-West & PO-Z]

Fuck, Fuck, Fuck

Yeah that sucked to get both chances blocked at the end. Would have loved them winning.

[bleedXblue]

Yeah that sucked to get both chances blocked at the end. Would have loved them winning.

Yeah but we want UC's slate to be as tough as possible. UK is a bad match up for UC.... IMHO.

[GoMuskies]

Yeah but we want UC's slate to be as tough as possible. UK is a bad match up for UC.... IMHO.

Wichita would have fucked UC's world.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah but we want UC's slate to be as tough as possible. UK is a bad match up for UC.... IMHO.

UC? I dont think they win tonight.

[bjf123]

UC? I dont think they win tonight.

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[Muskie]

The refs are doing their best to keep Bill Self ahead.


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[GoMuskies]

Danger time for the Heels.

[BMoreX]

I watched zero minutes of Arkansas basketball prior to this tournament

[BandAid]

Arkansas is now getting hosed by the refs

[SkyWalker]

Arkansas is now getting hosed by the refs

The worst officiating I have ever seen in the last minute of NC/Ark game. NC offensive foul while Arkansas has right arm wrapped around NC player pulling him. Block/no block on Arkansas shot - check replay and can't decide (look at the video please). Charge/push off by NC player or block on Arkansas player, everybody goes to the ground while NC player throws up garbage shot and NC gets rebound and scores winning basket - no whistle. I am not completely agreeing that Arkansas got hosed but officiating was horrible.

[xu82]

I know they had to be happy to avoid further embarassment!

[PattyMac1021]

12 minutes left in the second half and Rhode Island has been called for 8 fouls. Oregon has been called for 1.

[nuts4xu]

Rhody trying to cough up their lead.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think that meaningless tip in at the buzzer off the missed 3 for USC helped them cover. Saw 5.5 somewhere, that made it 4 from 6.

[GoMuskies]

I had Baylor -6. Did not like.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I had Baylor -6. Did not like.

Ugh, killer.

[xu82]

It's far from over, but Duke AND UCLA are losing, and I love that!

[xudash]

Time for the refs to navigate Duke to victory.

[xudash]

Well, maybe not now.

[xu82]

The ref's were not on their game today, it appears.

[paulxu]

It's far from over, but Duke AND UCLA are losing, and I love that!

You're cheering for UC?

[xu82]

Or will they step up late??????

[xu82]

You're cheering for UC?

Crazy Daddy Ball makes ME crazy!

[xu82]

#FTsmatter

[xudash]

It was fun watching Frank Martin's head almost explode.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Man Nova really missed out on another great chance to go to FF.

Now either Baylor, FL, Wisconsin, or SC are going to the final 4.

[paulxu]

One ACC team in the Sweet Sixteen.

Very strange.

ps. 2 BE teams

[xu82]

One ACC team in the Sweet Sixteen.

Very strange.

ps. 2 BE teams

I was not a math major, but I believe 2 out of 7 is better than 1 out of 9. And WE were hoping for better! HA!

[D-West & PO-Z]

UC is in trouble.

20-7 run for UCLA, UC down 12 and only 1 TO left.

[xu82]

Man Nova really missed out on another great chance to go to FF.

Now either Baylor, FL, Wisconsin, or SC are going to the final 4.

I spent the last 4 days with about 20 Wisconsin fans in Orlando. They were serious hardcore guys! But UF looked stifling too. Maybe that was really on UVA? I don't really care as long as Duke is out!

[xu82]

How many other teams have been to 6 of the last 10 Sweet 16's?