Game Thread: Xavier v. Marquette (February 18, 2017) Big East Conference

[Muskie]

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Xavier Musketeers vs. Marquette Golden Eagles
February 18, 2017
Game Time: 8:00 ET | Milwaukee, Wi
TV: CBS Sports Network
Radio:55KRC (https://www.iheart.com/live/55krc-1709/)
Live Stats (http://www.gomarquette.com/multimedia/gametracker.html)
Live Chat (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=XavierHoops)

Milwaukee Pre-Game Reception Information (https://alumni.xavier.edu/ccon/events_activities.do?action=viewEventFromCalendar&frompage=calendar&event_id=XPGM7)

[Muskie]

Heading to this one tomorrow. Hoping for a good show.

[xufan2434]

Heading to this one tomorrow. Hoping for a good show.

I as well. Actually know a decent amount of people heading up. Should be a good be a strong contingent.

Mack seemed optimistic about Tre feeling well enough to play on the radio show last night. Saying my prayers now

[XMuskieFTW]

I as well. Actually know a decent amount of people heading up. Should be a good be a strong contingent.

Mack seemed optimistic about Tre feeling well enough to play on the radio show last night. Saying my prayers now

Ehh. He said there's a chance he could play Saturday. Not getting my hopes up. I'd be very surprised if he played.

[Mel Cooley XU'81]

Heading to this one tomorrow. Hoping for a good show.

The Cooley Clan will be in attendance.

Spike Cooley XU'19 will be doing his thing for the cause.

And announcing with great pride Coco Cooley XU'21 as a recently announced Fall '17 First Year!

Coco's Commit gives XU a truly formidable Freshman Recruiting Class.

See one and all tomorrow: It's National Marquette Day . . . again.

[Muskie]

The Cooley Clan will be in attendance.

Spike Cooley XU'19 will be doing his thing for the cause.

And announcing with great pride Coco Cooley XU'21 as a recently announced Fall '17 First Year!

Coco's Commit gives XU a truly formidable Freshman Recruiting Class.

See one and all tomorrow: It's National Marquette Day . . . again. Does the Cooley Clan get some sort of tuition discount? What about a possible Cooley Hall?

[Mel Cooley XU'81]

Does the Cooley Clan get some sort of tuition discount? What about a possible Cooley Hall?

"Thanks for calling the Xavier University Cooley Clan Financial Aid Crisis Hotline. Please listen carefully because our menu has changed. If you have recently declared personal bankruptcy and wish to take out an easy-terms loan to make your child's next tuition payment . . . press 1 now. If . . ."

Actually you do get a quantity discount: a couple thou per scholar, or something.

[GIMMFD]

No Tre, means no win. No matter how we spin it at this point. We'll fight hard, and that should be good, but very nervous about this. I just don't see us having the man power to win it.

[GoMuskies]

No Tre, means no win. No matter how we spin it at this point. We'll fight hard, and that should be good, but very nervous about this. I just don't see us having the man power to win it.

I'm NOT nervous about it for the very reason you mention. I don't really think we can win.

[Muskie]

I believe that we will win.


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[AviatorX]

What is Marquette day and why do we always seem to be in Milwaukee for it?

[XMuskieFTW]

I believe that we will win.


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The worst chant in the history of sports.

[Emp]

The worst chant in the history of sports.
Deserves its own thread. My nomination : nan-Na na-nah ..... goodbye.

Only a traitor would denigrate the national team chant. OK I admit I've been in the spirit at US v Mehico in Columbus

[fellahmuskie]

Excited to see lots of X fans in Milwaukee. I'll be there with a group of seven. Hope we can make some noise if the Muskies take care of business.

[UCGRAD4X]

Excited to see lots of X fans in Milwaukee. I'll be there with a group of seven. Hope we can make some noise when the Muskies take care of business.

Sorry, just had to fix it.

[Jesuit4Life]

Game Day Guide: https://twitter.com/CoachChrisMack/status/832960586296262656
You can also stream through CBS Sports' website if you have Frontier/Cox/WOW/Optimum and subscribe to their channel: http://www.cbssports.com/watch/cbssportsnetwork

55KRC (https://www.iheart.com/live/55krc-1709/)

Let's Go X

[Irishjohn68]

Will Trevon Bluiett be playing today?

[THRILLHOUSE]

Will Trevon Bluiett be playing today?

I'm guessing we probably won't know until pre-game warm-ups.

I think X wins if Trevon plays, but if no Tre, then I don't think X has enough offense to keep up with Marquette.

[XMuskieFTW]

Deserves its own thread. My nomination : nan-Na na-nah ..... goodbye.

Only a traitor would denigrate the national team chant. OK I admit I've been in the spirit at US v Mehico in Columbus

I was at the Mexico game too. Just couldn't bring myself to join in the chant. It's lack of creativity just kills me.

[bobbiemcgee]

Tre participated in the shoot-a-round.

[xu82]

We have tickets to Jay Leno tonight at 8:00. So....great. The last game I missed Ed got his head jumped on at Nova. Look forward to watching when I get home, and praying for something pleasant to watch.

[mid major]

The game hasn't started yet and JP is already credited with 2 turnovers.

[xu82]

The game hasn't started yet and JP is already credited with 2 turnovers.

He's just getting them out of his system. Pretty good plan.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I was told Tre is out, hopefully that's not true.

[AviatorX]

I was told Tre is out, hopefully that's not true.

I mean, he's warming up separately from the team. I've been under the impression it would be surprising if he went tonight.

[AviatorX]

Looking forward to this Fresno St. - New Mexico game cutting in to the beginning of X.

[bobbiemcgee]

Xavier Gameday sez no Tre:

.@TrevonBluiett is out of the starting lineup for a second straight game and not expected to play tonight.

Starters for @XavierMBB:

1. @quentingoodin
2. @jpmacura
3. @Malcolmabernard
4. @TyriqueJones_
5. @3rsg5

#LetsGoX

[THRILLHOUSE]

Xavier Gameday sez no Tre:

.@TrevonBluiett is out of the starting lineup for a second straight game and not expected to play tonight.



Then I say we have no chance of winning. (please prove me wrong, Muskies)

[OTRMUSKIE]

we need 2-3 wins to get in. That's going to be hard to do without tre. Win this one and We are sitting pretty.

[AviatorX]

we need 2-3 wins to get in. That's going to be hard to do without tre. Win this one and We are sitting pretty.

I think if X loses out save DePaul they will be comfortably in.

[paulxu]

Northwestern going to the dance.

[Muskie]

Gaston and Mack both with Techs


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[sirthought]

Is anyone getting the streams to work? I'm just seeing "Live Event Will Start Shortly"

[kellernr]

Down 15 - 2. This is going to be an 0-3 road trip

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[Jesuit4Life]

Stream here until the other game is over: http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/live

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[mistabeecee41]

Down 15 - 2. This is going to be an 0-3 road trip

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stick a fork in em. Won't win a game without Tre.

[paulxu]

Good lord. I think I'm glad my streams don't work, and I don't get CBSSN.

19-2? Man that's crazy.

[AviatorX]

This clearly wasn't going to go well regardless, but Jesus Christ is Gottlieb on point that Anderson (the official) went completely self-centered and absolutely changed the complexion of the game.

[sirthought]

Stream here until the other game is over: http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/live

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thanks!

[kellernr]

Mack needs to stop getting 5th year transfers from small schools. Gaston has been good on the rebounding side but has been garbage (minus 2-3 games) all season on the offensive end.

Bernard is not a D1 player. He hustles on D but also doesn't have much going on on the offensive end. Has a good looking 3pt shot but will only take it if he's wide open.



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[sirthought]

I just watched a documentary about Goodin's HS team. I thought he was a true PG. What is Gottlieb talking about?

[muskieindent]

Mack might get his first ever ejection if they keep this up

[GreatWhiteNorth]

21-2, holy hell! I'm not going to follow this game.

[kellernr]

Good lord. I think I'm glad my streams don't work, and I don't get CBSSN.

19-2? Man that's crazy.
21-7 now

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[THRILLHOUSE]

Throwing in the towel tonight. I'll watch UNC-VA and the NBA 3 pt and dunk contest instead. This is embarrassing. Neg rep away, I don't care.

[muskieindent]

Mack needs to stop getting 5th year transfers from small schools. Gaston has been good on the rebounding side but has been garbage (minus 2-3 games) all season on the offensive end.

Bernard is not a D1 player. He hustles on D but also doesn't have much going on on the offensive end. Has a good looking 3pt shot but will only take it if he's wide open.



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I figured them to he complimentary players when the year started .Now we need them to do something. Gaston at least has scored lately

[kellernr]

This clearly wasn't going to go well regardless, but Jesus Christ is Gottlieb on point that Anderson (the official) went completely self-centered and absolutely changed the complexion of the game.
Don't have the channel. Why were the technicals called on gaston and mack? Seems like it had to be something bad considering they were both in the 1st 3 minutes

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[GuyFawkes38]

I just watched a documentary about Goodin's HS team. I thought he was a true PG. What is Gottlieb talking about?

Is he some how confusing him with Sumner or Myles? Ugh. With Gotlieb and the blowout, I don't think I can watch the rest of this.

[AviatorX]

Mack needs to stop getting 5th year transfers from small schools. Gaston has been good on the rebounding side but has been garbage (minus 2-3 games) all season on the offensive end.

Bernard is not a D1 player. He hustles on D but also doesn't have much going on on the offensive end. Has a good looking 3pt shot but will only take it if he's wide open.



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They have actually both done about exactly what was expected of them, in fact Bernard has well exceeded his expected production I'd argue (still can be frustrating).

I'm not sure how people don't understand that obviously the plan wasn't for either of them to be such significant parts of the team, but that's the way things fell. It's not like Mack was banking on Bernard carrying them for stretches on offense. If he was the 9th man, he would be incredible.

[Jesuit4Life]

thanks!
You're welcome I suppose, heh.

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[Muskie]

This game truly has everything


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[Muskie]

Multiple techs. Multiple fouled three point shots.


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[Muskie]

Marquettes scoreboard is not working.


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[kellernr]

They have actually both done about exactly what was expected of them, in fact Bernard has well exceeded his expected production I'd argue (still can be frustrating).

I'm not sure how people don't understand that obviously the plan wasn't for either of them to be such significant parts of the team, but that's the way things fell. It's not like Mack was banking on Bernard carrying them for stretches on offense. If he was the 9th man, he would be incredible.
Gaston was planned. He sat out last year. Farr was graduating and most of the people figured Reynolds wasn't staying.

Bernard kills me because he has potential to blow a game open but he refuse to shoot if there is anyone within 10ft of him. I know he wasn't meant to be a starter but myles screwed all that up.


When Sumner went down I said that sucks but Q should be serviceable at point for us. When Tre went down I said this season is most likely NIT bound.

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[XU 23]

Please take JP out.

[Xville]

This team is beyond awful right now. Omara is not a d1 player.

[Xville]

Well, think I'm done for the night...no point in watching a complete ass beating. See you all for Seton hall.

[AviatorX]

Gaston was planned. He sat out last year. Farr was graduating and most of the people figured Reynolds wasn't staying.

Bernard kills me because he has potential to blow a game open but he refuse to shoot if there is anyone within 10ft of him. I know he wasn't meant to be a starter but myles screwed all that up.


When Sumner went down I said that sucks but Q should be serviceable at point for us. When Tre went down I said this season is most likely NIT bound.

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Obviously Gaston was planned, but I don't think Mack thought we'd have a stretch where he was our best scoring option. Just a hunch. He was supposed to be a glass-cleaning and defensive big guy, a role in which he has been top notch.

Relax. This team has a long way to go before they're NIT bound. The committee isn't blind to the fact that Trevon hasn't played this stretch.

Pretty much all of us on here saw this stretch going extremely poorly once it was clear Trevon was going to miss time. Now that it's actually happening, I don't think the calculus for this team has changed.

[X Factor]

What does this team do well? Can't shoot FT's or three's. Can't take of the ball.

Collective bball IQ on this team is so low.

[BandAid]

It's the ref's world. We're just living in it. They're more demonstrative than any of the players.

[X Factor]

And down goes Bernard.

[X Factor]

It's the ref's world. We're just living in it. They're more demonstrative than any of the players.

No it's not the refs fault Xavier is getting destroyed.

[X Factor]

I would give anything to have a few good shooters.

[AviatorX]

Even Doug Gottlieb knows Xavier is going to make the tournament barring an extreme circumstance. And he still thinks Nova wasn't built for the Big 12 last year.

[X Factor]

More missed layups...

[X Factor]

Goodin could stand on top of a ladder and still miss

[X Factor]

Gates needs to keep being aggressive.

[paulxu]

Nice couple shots by Gates

[kellernr]

Goodin could stand on top of a ladder and still miss
He's got great moves to get to the rim but then just throws it towards the hoop hoping to get fouled. Hopefully he figures out how to finish at the rim for future seasons

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[GuyFawkes38]

California Almonds. That's my big take away from this game. California Almonds.

[BandAid]

No it's not the refs fault Xavier is getting destroyed.

Ah, the complaint wasn't the calls. (Although the double techs and blown screen call were bullshit.) It's the refs' demeanor. "Demonstrative" was the word I used.

[XU 23]

Most thin skinned refs I've ever seen. 4 technical fouls in the first half!

[paulxu]

Proud of their fight.

And that WAS a charge.

[xubrew]

I make it a point to not complain about the refs, but this has been a shittily officiated game.

That's not a complaint. That's an accurate observation.

[Muskie]

Only down 12. I've got good vibes. Could be the lack of oxygen in the 400 section


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[sirthought]

These refs are such goofs.

[kellernr]

Good run to end the half. The refs need to swallow the whistles. How many technicals were called that half?

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[Jesuit4Life]

lack of oxygen in the 400 section

They've got some really odd traditions for National Marquette Day.

Still some fight in this team. Let's make it a good second half.


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[AviatorX]

Come out and compete here and I'll have no complaints. Hard to withstand that onslaught.

Maybe some slight shades of this game http://www.espn.com/ncb/recap/_/gameId/400820666 ... one can irrationally hope.

[paulxu]

Must be hot there. JP took off his long sleeve shirt.

[X Factor]

This Howard freshman kid is a better shooter than Brad Redford.

[X Factor]

The three ball is such a game changer and we don't anyone who can make 3 or 4 in a row like that.

[X Factor]

Quentin has no finishing abilities.

[Muskeagle]

Quentin has no finishing abilities.

OK...true.....but Q was absolutely stood up by a body block...no call. Come down to the other end and Macura barely touches the guy for an and one. Unfucking believable.

[paulxu]

We should run more plays for Gates

[kellernr]

Who is guarding Howard?

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[X Factor]

The kids shoots over 50% from three on the season! That's better than just about anyone on our team from 2 point range. Might want to keep a body on him.

[jaxalum]

By losing these three away games (Prov,Marq,Seton Hall) we are at least losing to the the "right teams" in terms of assisting the conference in producing the maximum amount of bids possible. Bracket Matrix, which lists 60 plus bracketologists, has Seton Hall at an 11, Marquette as the first of the "first four out", and Georgetown, followed right behind Providence, as the second four out.
http://bracketmatrix.com

WTF!!!!! I'm justifying losing games we are playing and will be playing in the future. That's fucking demented, and my apologies to all, as I'm just looking for a silver lining. We went from preseason potential Final Four expectations, to holding on for dear life to recieve a bid. This is so f#cking frustrating.

Hypothetically pushing aside the garbage; Myles Davis good to go from day one as is Qaeiser Gates, and Edmond never gets injured, as a Xavier basketball enthusiast, I would have love to have seen what this team would have looked like, their style of play, the difference in the dichotomy, just HOW GOOD WE COULD HAVE BEEN.

[xudash]

Refs are hideous.

[X Factor]

These refs suck!!!!

[X Factor]

Howard is as good a shooter as Steph Curry.

[paulxu]

This has turned into a comedy of (officials) errors.

[xavierj]

This has turned into a comedy of (officials) errors.

So the refs rewarded a guy for initiating contact and then flopping. Interesting.

[Jesuit4Life]

Howard is as good a shooter as Steph Curry.
He missed 10 half-court shots in a row too?

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[BandAid]

Can Mack file a complaint? These refs have been something else

[BandAid]

X currently playing with 5 scholarship players

[XfansinKy]

Enjoy this Big East opponents. It won't be like this often.

[X Factor]

Refs sucking aside, Xavier has played really bad.

Marquette has shooters and Xavier doesn't. JP was considered one of the best shooters in his class and he's approaching 30% from three on the year.

We have a point guard now who can't make a layup and is shooting 32% from the field on the year!

So frustrating.

[BandAid]

X currently playing with 5 scholarship players

Nevermind, Bernard is back in

[X Factor]

Down 24 points....

[sirthought]

I wonder what it will take for Gates to grow a pair and play a bit tougher?

He's often in position to make a play and just doesn't make an effort.

[drudy23]

We might be in trouble.

[xavierj]

That ref, Anderson has had a rough night. He just rewarded another actor on that foul on JP

[Warriors11]

Marquette fan here, not here to gloat.

Just wanted to say the refs did you guys dirty tonight, really sucks for you guys. Good luck the rest of the season. Hope we can do enough to join you guys in the tournament.

[whopper]

Too much is being asked of Goodin but he has got to draw some fouls if he can't make shots, Macura tries to make things happen but is only quick for a white guy and can't really make his own shot. Scoring underneath with Gaston, Omeara and Jones is a losing strategy in today's game.. a nice complementary role but if your centers are the leading scorers you are not going to win. We are very slow to the ball as well. Let's hope we make the tournament.

[xavierj]

We might be in trouble.

Nah they will be alright. Get pisssed and when blueitt is healthy, and they will recover. Good to face adversity. They have not quit.

[paulxu]

I wish Q could shoot like Howard

[BandAid]

I wish Q could shoot like Howard

I wish any of our active players could shot like Howard

[X Factor]

Nah they will be alright. Get pisssed and when blueitt is healthy, and they will recover. Good to face adversity. They have not quit.

Trevon's ankle won't be back to 100% this year. If you think all is going to fine when Tre returns, I think you're gonna be disappointed.

This team is terrible shooting team and you HAVE to be able to make threes in today's game. Lately, this team is 2-11, 3-14, 2-15, etc from three. Trevon is really the only consistent threat from three this team has.

We need multiple shooters like the '08 team. Mack needs to find them somewhere because next year's team isn't going to have them either.

[Juice]

Trevon's ankle won't be back to 100% this year. If you think all is going to fine when Tre returns, I think you're gonna be disappointed.

This team is terrible shooting team and you HAVE to be able to make threes in today's game. Lately, this team is 2-11, 3-14, 2-15, etc from three. Trevon is really the only consistent threat from three this team has.

We need multiple shooters like the '08 team. Mack needs to find them somewhere because next year's team isn't going to have them either.

When stupidity (Myles) and injury (Trevon) take away your two best shooters, it's hard to blame Mack for how this team is shooting right now. Can JP and Kaiser shoot it a little from behind the arc? Sure. But they were supposed to be complements to Myles and Tre and Sumner, not the ones carrying the load.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

I don't know what happened to Macura; he used to be a good shooter, esp. at 3pt, but now, he can't shoot, like the rest of the team. Taking a beating by Marquette is not funny.

[X Factor]

When stupidity (Myles) and injury (Trevon) take away your two best shooters, it's hard to blame Mack for how this team is shooting right now. Can JP and Kaiser shoot it a little from behind the arc? Sure. But they were supposed to be complements to Myles and Tre and Sumner, not the ones carrying the load.

Forget Myles, he hasn't been a part of this team at all this year, and even with Trevon, this team is a poor three point shooting team. Even with Ed running the point, this team was a poor three point shooting team. Under 35% at their best and now trending towards 30%. Probably worse during conference play.

[whopper]

there is a world of difference in making your own shot and shooting off a catch and shoot. Macura's height allows him to get shots but the fact that he can't blow by lets the defender play him straight up. He is hustling hard and is being a good soldier as a backup point guard in a tough league. Sumner created opportunities for everyone and his penetration meant that even his turnovers were deep so did not result in run outs.

[Juice]

Forget Myles, he hasn't been a part of this team at all this year, and even with Trevon, this team is a poor three point shooting team. Even with Ed running the point, this team was a poor three point shooting team. Under 35% at their best and now trending towards 30%. Probably worse during conference play.

I get that. But when this team was constructed it certainly had Myles in the plans. Again, certain players are now being asked to do things that they aren't equipped to do.

[D-West & PO-Z]

2 more wins at any point in any way or fashion.

Losing streak sucks, all the injuries suck, but not worried about not making the tourney.

Can we do anything in tourney? Will depend on health and matchups but any wins in tourney this year are gravy to me.

[Harryfe]

I get that. But when this team was constructed it certainly had Myles in the plans. Again, certain players are now being asked to do things that they aren't equipped to do.
I hope I never hear another word about Myles Davis on this board. I heard how much help he was going to be when he came back. He was awful and I believe he has shown his true character.

[X-band '01]

Can Mack file a complaint? These refs have been something else

It would have been funny if Mack did call them out about it, but it wouldn't be worth a potential suspension for the Seton Hall game. We'll see if the Pirates come in pouting themselves after it was their turn to get toilet swirlies from Villanova.

[XUMIOH12]

It would have been funny if Mack did call them out about it, but it wouldn't be worth a potential suspension for the Seton Hall game. We'll see if the Pirates come in pouting themselves after it was their turn to get toilet swirlies from Villanova.

When has a coach ever been suspended for criticizing refs? Typically, they just get a fine.

[xu82]

Well, we had tickets to Jay Leno (very funny) and I just skimmed through the game in no time. Huge time saver! We got our assses kicked, but I will add that that was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. My son (AAU and HS stud PG) can barely watch the game now due to the refs. He callls it "a flawed sport". After games like that, it's hard to argue. Now, let's get healthy, and get a few wins.

[TUclutch]

The worst chant in the history of sports.

Strongly disagree. Not only is it not the worst chant in sports, its one of the best. The worst bar none is "overrated"

[TUclutch]

This clearly wasn't going to go well regardless, but Jesus Christ is Gottlieb on point that Anderson (the official) went completely self-centered and absolutely changed the complexion of the game.

Im not joking when i say this is the first time Ive ever agreed with anything Gottlieb has ever said. I hate myself for agreeing with him

[TUclutch]

Mack needs to stop getting 5th year transfers from small schools. Gaston has been good on the rebounding side but has been garbage (minus 2-3 games) all season on the offensive end.

Bernard is not a D1 player. He hustles on D but also doesn't have much going on on the offensive end. Has a good looking 3pt shot but will only take it if he's wide open.



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Gaston, while frustrating at times, has really picked it up recently. I have no issue with him being on the team. As for Bernard, he was brought in to be a defensive role player off the bench. He is in a role now that I don't think he or Mack ever dreamed of following the Myles fiasco and even more so now with the Sumner/Bluiett injuries. He has made some big plays on offense and defense and wouldve been praised much more had he been able to stay in his projected role

[xu82]

Im not joking when i say this is the first time Ive ever agreed with anything Gottlieb has ever said. I hate myself for agreeing with him

I skipped.....everything, but I agree with this!

[TUclutch]

I just watched a documentary about Goodin's HS team. I thought he was a true PG. What is Gottlieb talking about?

He was a combo guard in high school

[TUclutch]

I don't know what happened to Macura; he used to be a good shooter, esp. at 3pt, but now, he can't shoot, like the rest of the team. Taking a beating by Marquette is not funny.

The dude is EXHAUSTED. He's one of the hardest working players on the team in game and out of game. He was top 3 in the big east in minutes along with Ed and Tre before both of them went down. He's only playing more minutes now. Add in the pressure of trying to be THE GUY with role players around him and no wonder he is hitting a wall. He's still a very good shooter and very good player. Id imagine next year with more weapons he shoots and scores more.

[AviatorX]

Man, people are gonna be shocked when big time schools show interest in Mack this off-season even after he constructed this piss poor team...

[Strange Brew]

Anderson is a joke and should never ref an X game again.

[GoMuskies]

We're still shitty.

[JEHARDI]

Man, people are gonna be shocked when big time schools show interest in Mack this off-season even after he constructed this piss poor team...

Injuries and the Davis fiasco have decimated this team. It was not a poorly constructed team but had less margin for injuries/losses than prior teams. It happens, look at Michigan State, I am sure you have issues with Izzo too.

[muskieindent]

2 more wins at any point in any way or fashion.

Losing streak sucks, all the injuries suck, but not worried about not making the tourney.

Can we do anything in tourney? Will depend on health and matchups but any wins in tourney this year are gravy to me.

I'm starting to worry about even making the tourney now.

[drudy23]

There is a definite possibility this team doesn't win another game this year. We're not even close right now.

[AviatorX]

Injuries and the Davis fiasco have decimated this team. It was not a poorly constructed team but had less margin for injuries/losses than prior teams. It happens, look at Michigan State, I am sure you have issues with Izzo too.

Yes, you are agreeing with me.

[vee4xu]

There is a definite possibility this team doesn't win another game this year. We're not even close right now.

Hang with us there D-man. Anything is possible, but I can't conjure up any scenario where X loses each of their remaining games. It may not be pretty, but they have to be odds on favorites to beat DePaul in Chicago. Also, Marquette made 13 threes last night. One dude made 9-13, while X made two threes. That difference is nearly the exact difference in the score. X plays Marquette on senior day and will be will aware of what went down last night. So, i think they win that game, too.

[vee4xu]

In his post game comments, Mack said several players are playing out of position due to injuries and the cell phone tosser getting booted from the team. He didn't mention Davis, just the injuries. That was my editorial comment. At any rate, he said that you cannot be practicing new things in mid-February when most other teams are repeating in practice now, what they've been doing all year. He said it isn't an excuse, just a fact. Then, he said the players have to step up and make it work because they have no other choice if they want to win games.

[Xaveriana]

I'm starting to worry about even making the tourney now.

Part of me thinks it may be better if we don't make the tournament if we are going to go out there and embarrass ourselves. I can understand being short-handed due to multiple circumstances, but we are getting downright drilled lately. Can't remember a time when I dread the next game. Usually excited for the next. We'll be ok, just not this season.

[Juice]

Part of me thinks it may be better if we don't make the tournament if we are going to go out there and embarrass ourselves. I can understand being short-handed due to multiple circumstances, but we are getting downright drilled lately. Can't remember a time when I dread the next game. Usually excited for the next. We'll be ok, just not this season.

This is dumb.

[whopper]

With the offensive rebounding advantage X has now, the biggest problem is live ball turnovers without a shot. We will probably rebound one in three missed shots anyway but will the ball is lost out near the 3 point line we have no hope. I think that Goodin especially needs to go strong to the basket as that 7 foot half jump shot will never draw a foul. Even if Macura , Goodin and Bernard and Gates get soft shots to the rim it will increase the offensive rebound potential. I see too many 3 on 2 breaks from live ball turnovers what last night resulted in 3s but usually in layups. Goodin and Macura can never be substituted for now which puts them into foul trouble and fatigue. Good luck to a team that I follow from New York as I love hoops and have 2 girls at X. I never thought I would actively watch a game again

[paulxu]

One impact that Tre's absence is having seems to be on Macura. Defenses can tighten up on his outside spacing for 3's, as Bluiett is no longer there to swing the ball around to his shot.
In combination with playing 39 or 40 minutes per game, handling the PG duties occasionally, he seems to have lost his aim.
Tired? Probably exhausted.
But having Tre back will hopefully cure some of that.

[xavierj]

I think everyone needs to step away from the ledge. When sumner went down and Trevon injured his ankle the first time, Xavier was playing really well, and Trevon was lights out, even with a bum ankle. Supposedly it's not a high ankle sprain and Trevon could have played last night but the wanted to rest one more game. His ankle should be better this week than it has been for a while. Having him back will take a take a ton of pressure off Goodin and JP. On a positive In really like the way the big men are playing.

[bleedXblue]

I'm having a really hard time watching JP right now. Bad decisions mostly. What's confounding is Mack not pulling him for a couple of possessions and ripping him a new arsehole. His teammates have to be frustrated as well. I'm now convinced more than ever that his best asset to this program is as a role player coming off the bench. Yeah, I know that's not where we are right now b/c of injuries. I'm thinking more about next year already.

[bleedXblue]

I think everyone needs to step away from the ledge. When sumner went down and Trevon injured his ankle the first time, Xavier was playing really well, and Trevon was lights out, even with a bum ankle. Supposedly it's not a high ankle sprain and Trevon could have played last night but the wanted to rest one more game. His ankle should be better this week than it has been for a while. Having him back will take a take a ton of pressure off Goodin and JP. On a positive In really like the way the big men are playing.

You cant he really happy with O'Mara? He continues to not grab the damn ball when he has the chance. Dropped rebounds, missed passes etc.

[Juice]

You cant he really happy with O'Mara? He continues to not grab the damn ball when he has the chance. Dropped rebounds, missed passes etc.

He shows flashes of brilliance. Last night he had an ORating of 136, which was the highest on the team.

[AviatorX]

I'm having a really hard time watching JP right now. Bad decisions mostly. What's confounding is Mack not pulling him for a couple of possessions and ripping him a new arsehole. His teammates have to be frustrated as well. I'm now convinced more than ever that his best asset to this program is as a role player coming off the bench. Yeah, I know that's not where we are right now b/c of injuries. I'm thinking more about next year already.

Yeah, just the ordinary run of the mill 1300/1400 point career role player coming off the bench.

[THRILLHOUSE]

only thing I learned last night is I'm a pain in the ass when I'm drunk and X isn't playing well...ok that's a lie, I knew that already.

[flatspat]

Anderson is a joke and should never ref an X game again.

Anderson was one of the refs in the Crosstown Shootout brawl a few years ago

[drudy23]

Not saying this is going to happen, but it's definitely possible (depending on how effective Tre can be) that we may not win another game the rest of the way.

Even DePaul on the road isn't a given at this point.

[Strange Brew]

Anderson was one of the refs in the Crosstown Shootout brawl a few years ago

That would explain his hair trigger whistle with X and further proof he has no business reffing X games. Still can't believe John Cahill is head of BE officiating.

[XU 87]

I'm having a really hard time watching JP right now. Bad decisions mostly. What's confounding is Mack not pulling him for a couple of possessions and ripping him a new arsehole. His teammates have to be frustrated as well. I'm now convinced more than ever that his best asset to this program is as a role player coming off the bench. Yeah, I know that's not where we are right now b/c of injuries. I'm thinking more about next year already.

With Bluiett out, I think JP is trying to pick up the slack. And while JP is a very good player, he's not good enough to put the team on his back. As a result, JP's had some tough games trying to do too much.

[flatspat]

That would explain his hair trigger whistle with X and further proof he has no business reffing X games. Still can't believe John Cahill is head of BE officiating.

When I watch Anderson, I think he's the second coming of TV Teddy Valentine.

[xavierj]

You cant he really happy with O'Mara? He continues to not grab the damn ball when he has the chance. Dropped rebounds, missed passes etc.

No O'mara has not been good. Really happy with Q's development and Gaston has been a man lately. Last night Xavier's big men were abusing Creighton. Our guards just sucked, couldn't hit a shot and couldn't find the best shooter on the floor.

[Strange Brew]

When I watch Anderson, I think he's the second coming of TV Teddy Valentine.

If you're a ref and people know your name you're doing it wrong.

Exception: Ed Hochuli.

[vee4xu]

Part of me thinks it may be better if we don't make the tournament if we are going to go out there and embarrass ourselves. I can understand being short-handed due to multiple circumstances, but we are getting downright drilled lately. Can't remember a time when I dread the next game. Usually excited for the next. We'll be ok, just not this season.

I see your point, but making the tourney is a big recruiting tool. So, if X makes an early exit from this year's tourney, they'll focus on having made the dance for so many years consecutively and not focus on a 2017 early exit, should that happen.

[D-West & PO-Z]

This is dumb.

Yes, yes it is.

[D-West & PO-Z]

If you're a ref and people know your name you're doing it wrong.

Exception: Ed Hochuli.

Great point. Especially in basketball. Football I get because they get shown and their name announced every time they have to make a call.

[xu82]

I see your point, but making the tourney is a big recruiting tool. So, if X makes an early exit from this year's tourney, they'll focus on having made the dance for so many years consecutively and not focus on a 2017 early exit, should that happen.

This is true. Even last night it was mentioned that we were in a select crowd (9?) that had made it over a recent period of time (9 of 10 years?). The best recruits need to feel confident they are going to the tournament. You want to keep that alive, even if you exit early.

[xukeith]

With Bluiett out, I think JP is trying to pick up the slack. And while JP is a very good player, he's not good enough to put the team on his back. As a result, JP's had some tough games trying to do too much.

Yes and opposing teams know Goodin, Gates Bernard and Jones can't score enough so they also make it hard for JP so X is screwed until the bench players(now starters) start scoring 18-24 points and oh play perimeter D.

X will win3 more games before BE tourney. I am not worried about that.

I am concerned about Goodin, Jones, Gates, and Bernard making opposing teams PAY. Is the BE too tough for them?
Freshman Howard for Marquette punched his card as an awesome frosh. Maybe that will wake Goodin up.

[paulxu]

Great point. Especially in basketball. Football I get because they get shown and their name announced every time they have to make a call.

This year the 4 groups that ref for the ACC, BE, A10 and CAA came together for some reason.
I can't really tell from this press release whether we "share" officials calling games, or just coordinate in some other fashion.

http://www.bigeast.com/news/2016/6/28/MBB_0628165641.aspx

[drudy23]

This is dumb.

Very.