View Full Version : Game Thread: Xavier v. Colorado (December 7, 2016)
Muskie
12-05-2016, 09:18 AM
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/ncaa/500/2752.png&h=150&w=150vs.http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/ncaa/500/38.png&h=150&w=150
December 7, 2016
Game Time: 9:00 p.m.
Boulder, Colorado
Radio:
TV: Pac-12 Network
Live Chat (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=XavierHoops)
Live Stats (Colorado (http://www.sidearmstats.com/cu/mbball/))
Recap: Colorado v. Portland (Win) (http://www.cubuffs.com/news/2016/12/3/mens-basketball-strong-second-half-pushes-buffs-past-pilots-76-63.aspx)
Scouting: Colorado Player reaches 2000 Points (http://www.cubuffs.com/news/2016/12/1/mens-basketball-buffs-white-hits-2-000-point-career-plateau-in-loss-to-rams.aspx)
GoMuskies
12-05-2016, 09:22 AM
Exorcise the demons!
Also, I'm pretty sure Pac-12 Network is the one fucking channel DirecTV doesn't carry.
D-West & PO-Z
12-05-2016, 09:22 AM
So DirecTV doesnt have Pac12 network huh? Great
D-West & PO-Z
12-05-2016, 09:23 AM
Exorcise the demons!
Also, I'm pretty sure Pac-12 Network is the one fucking channel DirecTV doesn't carry.
Beat me to it. Just found this out.
Muskie
12-05-2016, 10:02 AM
I'll have Joe and Byron on I guess.
D-West & PO-Z
12-05-2016, 10:23 AM
I'll have Joe and Byron on I guess.
Yeah same here I guess. Most bars probably wont even have it because I assume most have DirecTV for NFL ticket.
GoMuskies
12-05-2016, 10:55 AM
I'll just dip into the deep well of Wichita sports bars....SHIT.
X-band '01
12-05-2016, 11:29 AM
Believe it's Time Warner channel 345 for the Pac-12 Network.
XMuskieFTW
12-05-2016, 11:55 AM
It'll be easy to find on one of those sketchy sports streaming sites.
D-West & PO-Z
12-05-2016, 11:56 AM
It'll be easy to find on one of those sketchy sports streaming sites.
Post a link if you find one that works.
XUMIOH12
12-05-2016, 12:10 PM
i really think we turn it around and win this game
XUMIOH12
12-05-2016, 12:11 PM
thank god for cable log-ins so i can watch the game on the computer at least.
bobbiemcgee
12-05-2016, 01:19 PM
Dish 409 @ 7:00 pm MT. And in case you missed it - 3am, 11am and 4pm the next day.
THRILLHOUSE
12-05-2016, 01:26 PM
Ah, completely forgot DTV doesn't have Pac12Net. Welp, guess I'll be keeping an eye out for one of those streaming links.
XMuskieFTW
12-05-2016, 01:30 PM
Post a link if you find one that works.
Will do. Vipbox.tv and firstrowsports will almost certainly have it. I know those sites both had the Butler @ Utah game on the pac12 network.
THRILLHOUSE
12-05-2016, 02:32 PM
"@EiserXUSports Basketball Hall of Famer @BillWalton is on the broadcast team for @Pac12Network for @XavierMBB's game @CUBuffsMBB on Wednesday. #LetsGoX"
Guess for those who don't get Pac12 Net, you'll either be happy or disappointed that you'll be missing Bill's call of the game.
kellernr
12-05-2016, 02:41 PM
Download the PAC12 app and check to see if your provider is listed. If not try and see if you can borrow someones TWC login. i no longer have cable but my parents have TWC so i can just login to the app with that account and then cast the game from my phone to the TV.
X-band '01
12-05-2016, 02:42 PM
I'm setting the over/under on "Conference of Champions" references at 50 by Bill Walton for the game.
D-West & PO-Z
12-05-2016, 04:05 PM
Download the PAC12 app and check to see if your provider is listed. If not try and see if you can borrow someones TWC login. i no longer have cable but my parents have TWC so i can just login to the app with that account and then cast the game from my phone to the TV.
Anyone who doesnt get it through their provider wont be able to get it through the login either. Basically if you dont have it on your TV you cant get it through their app, unless you are using someone else's login who does have it on their TV like you are doing with your parents.
bobbiemcgee
12-05-2016, 04:44 PM
I'm setting the over/under on "Conference of Champions" references at 50 by Bill Walton for the game.
Didn't realize he was such a fan of the Big East.
Hey! Who knew? I have DTV and AT&T in Atlanta. Apparently, because my television viewing habits cost almost as much as the GDP of Guatemala, I get the Pac-12 station and can view the game on AT&T channel 1759. I was prepared to be disappointed. It wasn't that long ago I only got to see a few games a year. Now? I'm pissed if I have to miss a single one. We've come along way, folks.
THRILLHOUSE
12-05-2016, 07:02 PM
Hey! Who knew? I have DTV and AT&T in Atlanta. Apparently, because my television viewing habits cost almost as much as the GDP of Guatemala, I get the Pac-12 station and can view the game on AT&T channel 1759. I was prepared to be disappointed. It wasn't that long ago I only got to see a few games a year. Now? I'm pissed if I have to miss a single one. We've come along way, folks.
So you have both DirecTV and UVerse TV installed in your house? Why? Just seems odd in an age where so many are cutting the cable you are doubling down. But hey, guess it worked in your favor this week.
BMoreX
12-05-2016, 07:12 PM
Welp, unavailable on Comcast in Baltimore.
So you have both DirecTV and UVerse TV installed in your house? Why? Just seems odd in an age where so many are cutting the cable you are doubling down. But hey, guess it worked in your favor this week.
DTV is for Sunday Ticket, and AT&T is everyday stuff. DTV is spotty and have a fairly simple package, but when they merged it got cheaper to have both. My son in Nashville uses my DTV login to get Sunday Ticket too. I'll pay a little more to see all my Bills games and X games. I learned years ago it's cheaper than going out (with a person or two) to a sports bar. So....... I'll be watching the next game!!!
xuinmd
12-05-2016, 10:04 PM
406-01 on dish
sirthought
12-06-2016, 03:01 PM
Pac12net channels are some the easiest to find quality streams for viewing on VLC player, but they won't be up until tomorrow.
check http://xrxs.net/
xubrew
12-06-2016, 03:16 PM
If you have DirecTV and have your internet through AT&T you may be able to log onto it that way.
Otherwise, it is available on Sling TV. It's roughly $20 a month for the most basic service, and $5 a month for the sports tier. For those of you that suck at math, that's $25. It's there if you want it, and you get it for the entire month (which you may not care about the other P12 games, but I do), and it's probably less than you'll spend going to a bar.
D-West & PO-Z
12-06-2016, 03:18 PM
Pac12net channels are some the easiest to find quality streams for viewing on VLC player, but they won't be up until tomorrow.
check http://xrxs.net/
Thanks!
THRILLHOUSE
12-06-2016, 04:03 PM
If you have DirecTV and have your internet through AT&T you may be able to log onto it that way.
Otherwise, it is available on Sling TV. It's roughly $20 a month for the most basic service, and $5 a month for the sports tier. For those of you that suck at math, that's $25. It's there if you want it, and you get it for the entire month (which you may not care about the other P12 games, but I do), and it's probably less than you'll spend going to a bar.
I have DirecTV and AT&T for internet, so yesterday I tried seeing if I could watch Pac12Network on their website. It lets you log on, but once you try watching something it will say you aren't authorized.
I believe Sling TV has a free 7 day trial. Not sure if that will include the Sports channels, but I might try that tomorrow.
muskiefan82
12-06-2016, 05:18 PM
Canceling sling before the trial is over (or after for that matter) is a nightmare.
bobbiemcgee
12-06-2016, 05:24 PM
White Death and 0 degrees on tap for Boulder.
SBR reports opening line X -1 on BetOnLine and SportsBetting.
Canceling sling before the trial is over (or after for that matter) is a nightmare.
By design, I'm sure. If you want too ADD something with DTV, they are all over you with hugs and kisses. Want to cancel........crickets.
GoMuskies
12-06-2016, 06:27 PM
Rashaan Salaam died yesterday in Boulder, so Boulder is going to be a sad place tomorrow. The way it's being reported makes it sound like a suicide. (Apologies if there is more recent news out confirming or disputing that).
Jesuit4Life
12-06-2016, 08:56 PM
Pac-12 Network - National and Mountain
Channel finder: http://pac-12.com/getpac-12networks
700WLW (https://www.iheart.com/live/700wlw-1713/)
Let's Go X
Muskeagle
12-06-2016, 10:07 PM
Just checked the link from above (the middle speed of their own player that JESUIT4LIFE mentions at the bottom)....and it brought me up perfectly to the start of the Arizona/UC Irvine game. Might watch a bit now. :)
D-West & PO-Z
12-06-2016, 10:17 PM
Just checked the link from above (the middle speed of their own player that JESUIT4LIFE mentions at the bottom)....and it brought me up perfectly to the start of the Arizona/UC Irvine game. Might watch a bit now. :)
Nice, me too!
D-West & PO-Z
12-06-2016, 10:18 PM
Pac-12 Network - National and Mountain
Channel finder: http://pac-12.com/getpac-12networks
700WLW (https://www.iheart.com/live/700wlw-1713/)
Actually those are 24/7 streams so you should be able to test it out for yourself any time.
For those unfamiliar with VLC/m3u8 streams:
First, get VLC (https://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html) or a comparable media player.
Next, get your link from xrxs.net - you'll obviously want PAC-12 National. FYI, higher k(bps) = more bandwidth needed. Copy the link address you're provided.
Then, open VLC and go to Media > Open Network Stream..., and paste the .m3u8 link and click Play. Be patient since it may take up to a minute depending on your bandwidth and computer/tablet/etc.
If your stream isn't smooth, try either a lower bandwidth link or go to Tools > Preferences > Show Settings - All (bottom left) > Input/Codecs, scroll down to Advanced and change Network Caching (ms) to 5000. This should help to prevent dropped frames.
If for some reason that doesn't work for you, try streaming directly through their player here:
1164k (640x360) (http://xrxs.net/player/?hls=http://xrxs.net/video/live-p12netw-1164.m3u8) | 2328k (1280x720) (http://xrxs.net/ncaa/?hls=http://xrxs.net/video/live-p12netw-2328.m3u8) | 4728k (1920x1080) (http://xrxs.net/ncaa/?hls=http://xrxs.net/video/live-p12netw-4728.m3u8)
Feel free to share this info with those who need it for watching the game. I'll be editing this post afterward to remove the links.
Thank you! Public and private reps!
paulxu
12-06-2016, 10:34 PM
Nice, me too!
Me three.
Which is good, because the first part of your post read like a conversation between Nigel and Go about some sports book crappola.
Thanks!
Jesuit4Life
12-06-2016, 11:54 PM
Me three.
Which is good, because the first part of your post read like a conversation between Nigel and Go about some sports book crappola.
Thanks!
Haha, yeah I probably could've made those instructions clearer. Thankfully you don't even have to bother with VLC if their media player works for you.
How many possessions will we see extended zones? Shooting 25 3PFGs is not going to win many games.
muskiefan82
12-07-2016, 09:12 AM
Unless you hit them. Then it will win many games
Has anyone noticed Myles hasn't played yet? Will he get in soon?
Live by the three, die by the three. Hope we can get more from the inside guys. (And even maybe some mid-range jumpers? Remember that?)
Mack Attack
12-07-2016, 10:52 AM
I signed up for Sling's free 7 day trial. Pac-12 network is on the sports package which is usually an extra $5 a month, but for the 7 day trial all the extra packages are also free except for HBO. Hopefully I won't have any problems cancelling it tomorrow morning.
muskiefan82
12-07-2016, 11:33 AM
You can do it, just be prepared for the runaround, transfers, and continued sales pitches. Eventually, you will get there, but it WILL suck getting there. Hopefully, you will get the sales guy who just wants to go home and just pushes the cancel button.
blueblob06
12-07-2016, 12:35 PM
White Death and 0 degrees on tap for Boulder.
Well hopefully the arena will closer to empty than full. Based on what I'm reading, it may help our free throw percentage!
THRILLHOUSE
12-07-2016, 01:29 PM
Canceling sling before the trial is over (or after for that matter) is a nightmare.
I have a Visa gift card that only has a couple of dollars left on it. I used that as my credit card on file. So if I have any issues trying to cancel after the game is over, my actual credit card won't get charged.
Drew's Crew
12-07-2016, 01:48 PM
Just signed up for the sling free trial with the sports package. I plan on streaming it on my Apple TV tonight!
I will be sure to cancel before I head to bed tonight too...
Seems like a great option for those with Apple TV
pimpinthebox
12-07-2016, 01:55 PM
For those who can't get the channel and/or aren't willing to buy the package for a single game or aren't technically savvy enough to stream and/or don't want to mess with it, below is a list I was given of all the local establishments that carry the PAC12 Network for the game tonight.
Lachey's - Downtown
Latitude's Bar & Bistro - Anderson
Dana Gardens – Norwood
Champions Grill - Western Hills
Tap House Grill - Kenwood
James' Third Base - Mason
Tavern On the Bend - White Oak
WhiteOakX
12-07-2016, 02:13 PM
Thanks, pimp. Tavern on the Bend is less than 10 minutes from me.
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 03:08 PM
I've heard good things about Sling. Is it some worth holding on to?
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X-band '01
12-07-2016, 03:21 PM
I have a Visa gift card that only has a couple of dollars left on it. I used that as my credit card on file. So if I have any issues trying to cancel after the game is over, my actual credit card won't get charged.
The same card number you gave to a random prince in Nigeria?
surfxu
12-07-2016, 03:54 PM
I'm headed to James Third Base in Mason with Cheesehead. I'd rather spend $25 for beer than spend hours trying to cancel Sling or something. I'm just not that much of a techy... I envy all you that can figure that stuff out. Let's go X!! Here's to hoping we can make a few more bunnies around the rim, make some more free throws and rain some 3's. All will be good.
PM Thor
12-07-2016, 04:45 PM
If you have a Firestick I highly recommend putting Kodi onto it. It's a workaround where basically ALL streamers dump their links. You can get basically any sporting event from anywhere in the world. It just takes some searching to find the proper links through it. And yeah, MLB/NFL/NBA/NHL you name it, every game is in there.
The same card number you gave to a random prince in Nigeria?
He is NOT a random prince, in fact he's a very special prince and is being treated unfairly. He needs our help!
X-ceptional
12-07-2016, 04:58 PM
I've heard good things about Sling. Is it some worth holding on to?
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09, this is like a trigger for me... I'm starting to feel like a shill for playstation vue because I've mentioned it a few times on the board now, but I feel like I did a decent amount of research between Vue and Sling when I was trying to decide, so I figure I would share again.
TL;DR = Vue > Sling. If you want to know more, then keep reading...
First off, number of streams. You can watch up to 5 streams of Vue at once on separate devices, but with the "orange" Sling, only one stream at a time, and with "blue" only 3 at a time.
Next, in order to get the Fox Sports/FS1/FS2 channels and ESPN (I know, I know, but it's the way of the world, they have good games), you'd have to buy both Sling packages (they do give you a $5 discount for both, so ends up 40/mo). Meanwhile, the $35/mo package for Vue has both. Also, SEC Network and BTN are included with Vue, but SEC is add'l $5/mo for Sling, and BTN not an option for Sling I believe.
Also, Sling does offer some app logins, but based on this faq (click here (http://help.sling.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/How-do-I-use-Sling-TV-as-authentication-for-another-app)) it DOES NOT appear to offer FSGO login. Vue does work with FSGO, and I have watched several games using it.
Vue has unlimited DVR storage, although things will only stay saved for 28 days. It is truly unlimited... I selected "College Basketball" to record, and it literally records every single CBB game that plays on any of the channels Vue offers, whether Fox, ESPN, BTN, SEC, etc. etc. There are so many damn games on my DVR. At the time I signed up for Vue, Sling did not offer DVR, but I think were in the process of rolling out something (but it was limited in hours).
Note, Sony and Viacom got into a dispute I guess, so Vue no longer carries Comedy Central or other Viacom channels (a couple of which the wife cared about), which does kind of suck, but I still feel Vue is a better value overall than Sling. Note, you do not need a Playstation to subscribe, but you do have to have a "tv connected device" such as apple-tv, amazon fire tv, etc. (i.e., mobile device cannot be the primary account).
Of course, all that being said, Pac12 Network is not available with Vue, so as far as this game goes, it's no help. As far as keeping Sling or not, based on the research I did a few months ago, I believed Vue to be the better deal, and have been quite happy with it.
Masterofreality
12-07-2016, 05:10 PM
At Xavier Morning Shootaround with Bill Walton. No Big Deal. 2120 2121
PM Thor
12-07-2016, 05:13 PM
Between Shannons tweets and the above picture, I'm fairly confident in saying she is stalking Bill Walton.
As for me, Walton is a character alright, but listening to him call a game is brutal beyond comparison. I swear he takes shrooms before a game or something.
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 05:20 PM
09, this is like a trigger for me... I'm starting to feel like a shill for playstation vue because I've mentioned it a few times on the board now, but I feel like I did a decent amount of research between Vue and Sling when I was trying to decide, so I figure I would share again.
TL;DR = Vue > Sling. If you want to know more, then keep reading...
First off, number of streams. You can watch up to 5 streams of Vue at once on separate devices, but with the "orange" Sling, only one stream at a time, and with "blue" only 3 at a time.
Next, in order to get the Fox Sports/FS1/FS2 channels and ESPN (I know, I know, but it's the way of the world, they have good games), you'd have to buy both Sling packages (they do give you a $5 discount for both, so ends up 40/mo). Meanwhile, the $35/mo package for Vue has both. Also, SEC Network and BTN are included with Vue, but SEC is add'l $5/mo for Sling, and BTN not an option for Sling I believe.
Also, Sling does offer some app logins, but based on this faq (click here (http://help.sling.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/How-do-I-use-Sling-TV-as-authentication-for-another-app)) it DOES NOT appear to offer FSGO login. Vue does work with FSGO, and I have watched several games using it.
Vue has unlimited DVR storage, although things will only stay saved for 28 days. It is truly unlimited... I selected "College Basketball" to record, and it literally records every single CBB game that plays on any of the channels Vue offers, whether Fox, ESPN, BTN, SEC, etc. etc. There are so many damn games on my DVR. At the time I signed up for Vue, Sling did not offer DVR, but I think were in the process of rolling out something (but it was limited in hours).
Note, Sony and Viacom got into a dispute I guess, so Vue no longer carries Comedy Central or other Viacom channels (a couple of which the wife cared about), which does kind of suck, but I still feel Vue is a better value overall than Sling. Note, you do not need a Playstation to subscribe, but you do have to have a "tv connected device" such as apple-tv, amazon fire tv, etc. (i.e., mobile device cannot be the primary account).
Of course, all that being said, Pac12 Network is not available with Vue, so as far as this game goes, it's no help. As far as keeping Sling or not, based on the research I did a few months ago, I believed Vue to be the better deal, and have been quite happy with it.
Thanks for all this!
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MauriceX
12-07-2016, 06:32 PM
09, this is like a trigger for me... I'm starting to feel like a shill for playstation vue because I've mentioned it a few times on the board now, but I feel like I did a decent amount of research between Vue and Sling when I was trying to decide, so I figure I would share again.
TL;DR = Vue > Sling. If you want to know more, then keep reading...
First off, number of streams. You can watch up to 5 streams of Vue at once on separate devices, but with the "orange" Sling, only one stream at a time, and with "blue" only 3 at a time.
Next, in order to get the Fox Sports/FS1/FS2 channels and ESPN (I know, I know, but it's the way of the world, they have good games), you'd have to buy both Sling packages (they do give you a $5 discount for both, so ends up 40/mo). Meanwhile, the $35/mo package for Vue has both. Also, SEC Network and BTN are included with Vue, but SEC is add'l $5/mo for Sling, and BTN not an option for Sling I believe.
Also, Sling does offer some app logins, but based on this faq (click here (http://help.sling.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/How-do-I-use-Sling-TV-as-authentication-for-another-app)) it DOES NOT appear to offer FSGO login. Vue does work with FSGO, and I have watched several games using it.
Vue has unlimited DVR storage, although things will only stay saved for 28 days. It is truly unlimited... I selected "College Basketball" to record, and it literally records every single CBB game that plays on any of the channels Vue offers, whether Fox, ESPN, BTN, SEC, etc. etc. There are so many damn games on my DVR. At the time I signed up for Vue, Sling did not offer DVR, but I think were in the process of rolling out something (but it was limited in hours).
Note, Sony and Viacom got into a dispute I guess, so Vue no longer carries Comedy Central or other Viacom channels (a couple of which the wife cared about), which does kind of suck, but I still feel Vue is a better value overall than Sling. Note, you do not need a Playstation to subscribe, but you do have to have a "tv connected device" such as apple-tv, amazon fire tv, etc. (i.e., mobile device cannot be the primary account).
Of course, all that being said, Pac12 Network is not available with Vue, so as far as this game goes, it's no help. As far as keeping Sling or not, based on the research I did a few months ago, I believed Vue to be the better deal, and have been quite happy with it.
I can second the love of PS Vue. I've had it for a month and really like it. Every now and then I have problems rewinding On Demand stuff, but it's so rare that it doesn't detract from the overall value.
My body clock says Game Time!
THRILLHOUSE
12-07-2016, 07:31 PM
He is NOT a random prince, in fact he's a very special prince and is being treated unfairly. He needs our help!
And from what he tells me, a Mr. Thrillhouse has tragically passed away and it turns out I'm the next of kin and am in line for a big inheritance. Cha-ching!!!
And from what he tells me, a Mr. Thrillhouse has tragically passed away and it turns out I'm the next of kin and am in line for a big inheritance. Cha-ching!!!
Free beer for everyone at Cintas or Dana's! Every day! (I may move.) And you can afford to throw in some supporting memberships!
sirthought
12-07-2016, 08:35 PM
I've recently signed on to Playstation Vue for the XU games on FS1. And of course ESPN 1 and 2. I think there are big differences in the interface and am not sure which one I prefer.
Last year I did use Sling for January, February, March and April. I had the Sports Extra pkg for $5 and it got you ESPNU and maybe SEC or some others, but no FS1 or FS2. I contacted Sling customer service twice for help, and each time was very good. When I canceled I had zero pushback. It happened within seconds. Notable that during MAJOR sports days, like the NCAA tournament or NBA playoffs, that the stream would struggle at times. This can be a result of several factors, including where you live and your quality of internet service, but it might be Sling's servers too. Overall it was appreciated. I would NOT keep it all year. I can't stand commercials, and most everything on cable has tons of commercials. Thus, I avoid it and stream most programming via Plex, Amazon and Netflix. Watching Xavier and UC games cost me though.
Vue seems smooth so far. I have to go through more steps to watch what I want. I hate that it costs more, but at least I'm getting FS1. Sadly, no Pac12.
paulxu
12-07-2016, 08:35 PM
I just clicked on Jesuut4life's middle link for a Pac 12 feed.
They are showing Arizona playing Colorado in the second half.
What am I missing here?
paulxu
12-07-2016, 08:38 PM
OK, I see it's an "encore" presentation now. (Maybe)
Saw some indication our game is coming.
BMoreX
12-07-2016, 09:01 PM
Stream so far so good
PM Thor
12-07-2016, 09:02 PM
Jesuit4Life for poster of the year.
sgarcia
12-07-2016, 09:04 PM
Jesuit4Life for poster of the year.
Second. Motion passes. Public reps for the link.
Jesuit4Life
12-07-2016, 09:06 PM
Jesuit4Life for poster of the year.
No need for that but credit to sirthought getting it posted first
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dubbledxu
12-07-2016, 09:11 PM
Pac-12 Network - National and Mountain
Channel finder: http://pac-12.com/getpac-12networks
700WLW (https://www.iheart.com/live/700wlw-1713/)
Actually those are 24/7 streams so you should be able to test it out for yourself any time.
For those unfamiliar with VLC/m3u8 streams:
First, get VLC (https://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html) or a comparable media player.
Next, get your link from xrxs.net - you'll obviously want PAC-12 National. FYI, higher k(bps) = more bandwidth needed. Copy the link address you're provided.
Then, open VLC and go to Media > Open Network Stream..., and paste the .m3u8 link and click Play. Be patient since it may take up to a minute depending on your bandwidth and computer/tablet/etc.
If your stream isn't smooth, try either a lower bandwidth link or go to Tools > Preferences > Show Settings - All (bottom left) > Input/Codecs, scroll down to Advanced and change Network Caching (ms) to 5000. This should help to prevent dropped frames.
If for some reason that doesn't work for you, try streaming directly through their player here:
1164k (640x360) (http://xrxs.net/player/?hls=http://xrxs.net/video/live-p12netw-1164.m3u8) | 2328k (1280x720) (http://xrxs.net/ncaa/?hls=http://xrxs.net/video/live-p12netw-2328.m3u8) | 4728k (1920x1080) (http://xrxs.net/ncaa/?hls=http://xrxs.net/video/live-p12netw-4728.m3u8)
Feel free to share this info with those who need it for watching the game. I'll be editing this post afterward to remove the links.
For those just joining us, working great for me.
sirthought
12-07-2016, 09:15 PM
Yeah, it would actually be very affordable to watch XU games if we were in the Pac12. The streams are always very good!
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 09:16 PM
Very smart playing by Macura on that possession. Almost got the steal, pressed the recovery, and played his part to get the whistle on the moving screen.
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letskeepitreal
12-07-2016, 09:16 PM
Kinda like Gaston starting. Maybe he'll get a better start
XU-PA
12-07-2016, 09:17 PM
One was funny, enough of the high references Bill.
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 09:18 PM
Good God, Bill Walton is excited about everything.
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XUFan09
12-07-2016, 09:19 PM
Back to back good calls by the officials. No call on Goodin with his arms up and then an offensive foul on O'Mara. Balances out.
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BMoreX
12-07-2016, 09:24 PM
Slow atart
letskeepitreal
12-07-2016, 09:25 PM
Not a very good start here guys.
D-West & PO-Z
12-07-2016, 09:25 PM
Brutal
X Factor
12-07-2016, 09:25 PM
This is brutal. Can't finish, again. Tyrique is Shaq 2.0 at the FT line.
GreatWhiteNorth
12-07-2016, 09:25 PM
We are still missing FT. So frustrating!
sirthought
12-07-2016, 09:26 PM
I hate listening to Bill Walton for more than 5 minutes. He never shuts up and doesn't really know the players.
AviatorX
12-07-2016, 09:26 PM
We are still missing FT. So frustrating!
Damn, bad shooters didn't get better in 3 days?
paulxu
12-07-2016, 09:27 PM
Maybe Jesuit4life has a quick fix for FT shooting.
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 09:29 PM
Oh Jesus Christ, quit your whining about the old Big East.
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Blue Blobs Bro
12-07-2016, 09:30 PM
When are we gonna see x play like they fucking Can
X Factor
12-07-2016, 09:31 PM
Geesh...Trevon with an airball from 6 feet.
GreatWhiteNorth
12-07-2016, 09:31 PM
Shooting 25% so far.
D-West & PO-Z
12-07-2016, 09:31 PM
Walton is miserable.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 09:32 PM
Walton is miserable.
Xavier basketball is miserable right now
D-West & PO-Z
12-07-2016, 09:34 PM
Xavier basketball is miserable right now
Can we blame Walton?
letskeepitreal
12-07-2016, 09:34 PM
Pretty ugly on both sides
sirthought
12-07-2016, 09:35 PM
I'm blaming the elevation on the poor shooting. The ball must weigh differently or something.
muskieindent
12-07-2016, 09:35 PM
Cold outside the building and colder inside. This is brutal
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 09:35 PM
I'm liking Xavier's defense this season, including tonight so far, but the offense is tough to watch when threes aren't falling at a high rate.
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X Factor
12-07-2016, 09:35 PM
Starting to get worried this team is NOT a good 3 point shooting team. What has happened to Trevon and JP? Kaiser can't get anything to fall from three either.
sirthought
12-07-2016, 09:40 PM
That wasn't really a screen, but I'll take the call.
letskeepitreal
12-07-2016, 09:41 PM
Just can't play a perimeter game. Gotta feed it inside.
sirthought
12-07-2016, 09:41 PM
I'd like to see Gates work his way inside sometimes a bit more.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 09:42 PM
C'mon Quentin!
mistabeecee41
12-07-2016, 09:44 PM
they hit 3's after both of our airballs. Ty and Q are playing like frosh, Kaiser/Sean have no confidence, Bernard is useless on offense, and Tre/JP/Ed are playing like shit again. When Gaston is your only offensive threat, youre in trouble.
sgarcia
12-07-2016, 09:44 PM
Chris Mack zone offense is awful. Please put Tre on the foul line elbow so he can repeatedly make 16 footers.
letskeepitreal
12-07-2016, 09:44 PM
Yup, gotta get Gates going inside. Seems like Gaston having some success which is actually a bad sign when he's your go to guy.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 09:45 PM
Chris Mack zone offense is awful. Please put Tre on the foul line elbow so he can repeatedly make 16 footers.
He's airballed a 6 footer and a three pointer. Doubt he's going to repeatedly make 16 footers.
Jesuit4Life
12-07-2016, 09:46 PM
Maybe Jesuit4life has a quick fix for FT shooting.
Ugh I really wish I did
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muskieindent
12-07-2016, 09:49 PM
Good TO by Chris. 8 -0 run
sirthought
12-07-2016, 09:51 PM
Well, it looks like Xavier offense of days of old. No screens. All iso play, with little chance of a dish on the drive.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 09:51 PM
Good defense by Gaston on that last possession!
letskeepitreal
12-07-2016, 09:51 PM
We are fortunate to be up at the half but we gotta do better in the second half.
muskieindent
12-07-2016, 09:51 PM
Did Bill just say nice spurt by Xavier after being nearly out of it? I didn't realize a five-point deficit was that big a deal
sirthought
12-07-2016, 09:52 PM
Does anyone have a link to a game tracker?
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 09:53 PM
The reason I like Gaston isn't his offense (which I'm guessing is going to be contingent on matchups). It's the defense he offers. Could you imagine Reynolds or Farr guarding a point guard out at the three-point line with the clock winding down? Gaston stayed right with him and forced him into a bad shot. Then he can turn around and guard a center using his size and strength.
Also, he's a rebounder on the level of Reynolds, which is a huge compliment, considering where Reynolds ranks in terms of career rebounding rate in recent Big East history.
xuinmd
12-07-2016, 09:54 PM
Bill and whoever seem to love to chat don't seem too interested in the game
sirthought
12-07-2016, 09:54 PM
Found one: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/live/NCAAB_20161207_XAVIER@COLO
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 09:55 PM
Bill and whoever seem to love to chat don't seem too interested in the game
Bill is like the old guy chatting on the front porch about all sorts of topics and the other announcer is the younger guy indulging him. Turns out they're supposed to be calling a basketball game, though. Whoops.
GoMuskies
12-07-2016, 09:56 PM
Nice offensive outburst there at the end after the offense was absolutely shitty for 17 minutes.
I love Bill Walton calling the game. And the other guy's mancrush on JP is funny.
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 09:57 PM
Nice offensive outburst there at the end after the offense was absolutely shitty for 17 minutes.
I love Bill Walton calling the game. And the other guy's mancrush on JP is funny.
I mean, the announcing is painful if you're hoping for quality insight. But it's hilarious if you just let it happen.
sirthought
12-07-2016, 09:58 PM
Bill and whoever seem to love to chat don't seem too interested in the game
I think every game with Walton is that way. I had to stop watching NBA games with him, although he doesn't call as many as he used to since Pac 12 hired him.
GoMuskies
12-07-2016, 09:58 PM
Bill Walton's random knowledge of Xavier related stuff is fantastic.
Serious question: when is the last time Trevon has made a 2pt shot? Is he now a 3pt specialist?
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 09:59 PM
Bill Walton's random knowledge of Xavier related stuff is fantastic.
I actually am impressed with the old man for that. He has more random knowledge about Xavier than most announcers, even if his actual game prep leaves a bit to be desired.
D-West & PO-Z
12-07-2016, 10:01 PM
Bill is like the old guy chatting on the front porch about all sorts of topics and the other announcer is the younger guy indulging him. Turns out they're supposed to be calling a basketball game, though. Whoops.
I cant imagine how hard it must be to be Walton's play by play guy. Losing battle no matter what.
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 10:02 PM
Serious question: when is the last time Trevon has made a 2pt shot? Is he now a 3pt specialist?
Heading into this game, he's shooting 51% on 2-point shots. He's taken an equal number of 2s and 3s (57 attempts each).
The Baylor game was weird, probably partly due to the ridiculous length of the Baylor frontcourt and partly due to his good shooting from outside. Before that, he was averaging 8 two-point attempts per game.
PM Thor
12-07-2016, 10:04 PM
I actually am impressed with the old man for that. He has more random knowledge about Xavier than most announcers, even if his actual game prep leaves a bit to be desired.
He knows his audience, I'll give him that. But if you are a casual fan, you think him referencing the Roebling bridge is the most random thing you could hear in the final seconds of a half.
PM Thor
12-07-2016, 10:05 PM
I cant imagine how hard it must be to be Walton's play by play guy. Losing battle no matter what.
Easiest job out there, play the straight man and let Bill be Bill.
By the way, how in the HELL are we out front in this game? That was just an atrocious first half.
sirthought
12-07-2016, 10:05 PM
Going into this season, who here would have guessed this team would struggle with their shooting the way this group has?
SkyWalker
12-07-2016, 10:06 PM
I'm glad I can't watch the game tonight (TW Cable) with Walton on the mike. Thinking about going to to Maui in 2018 just so I don't have to listen to him.
sirthought
12-07-2016, 10:07 PM
I'm glad I can't watch the game tonight (TW Cable) with Walton on the mike. Thinking about going to to Maui in 2018 just so I don't have to listen to him.
Just watch it online. Jesuit4Life has a post in this thread with great links.
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 10:08 PM
Easiest job out there, play the straight man and let Bill be Bill.
By the way, how in the HELL are we out front in this game? That was just an atrocious first half.
Defense and a nice offensive finish.
D-West & PO-Z
12-07-2016, 10:08 PM
Easiest job out there, play the straight man and let Bill be Bill.
By the way, how in the HELL are we out front in this game? That was just an atrocious first half.
He has t be expected to rain him in some though which is nearly impossible. You could tell he was trying on a few occasions.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:11 PM
Nice bucket by Rashid
sirthought
12-07-2016, 10:12 PM
Bluiett gets a touch hot and then breaks down on defense.
paulxu
12-07-2016, 10:14 PM
If that's Byron behind Mack with the headphones, he looks like he would like to suit up.
BMoreX
12-07-2016, 10:14 PM
Walton: I'm not familiar with the A10
All time line
paulxu
12-07-2016, 10:15 PM
Well, that looked like a charge.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:15 PM
Missed transition bucket on one end leads to an and-one on the other for Colorado....
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:17 PM
Walton: I'm not familiar with the A10
All time line
hahaha
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:18 PM
Ed and JP have a combined 9 points...
Heading into this game, he's shooting 51% on 2-point shots. He's taken an equal number of 2s and 3s (57 attempts each).
The Baylor game was weird, probably partly due to the ridiculous length of the Baylor frontcourt and partly due to his good shooting from outside. Before that, he was averaging 8 two-point attempts per game.
Thanks. I thought it seemed like his game had shifter during Baylor and today.
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 10:18 PM
Well, that looked like a charge.
His right foot was on the arc. Tough call to see.
Xpectations
12-07-2016, 10:18 PM
Walton loves "Kaiser Gaston" LOL
letskeepitreal
12-07-2016, 10:19 PM
Gaston is playing pretty good. Must like to start.
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 10:20 PM
Walton loves "Kaiser Gaston" LOL
I loved that line.
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XUFan09
12-07-2016, 10:21 PM
Did others just lose the feed?
D-West & PO-Z
12-07-2016, 10:21 PM
Did others just lose the feed?
yes
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 10:22 PM
Ok, feed is back for me.
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D-West & PO-Z
12-07-2016, 10:22 PM
reloaded and its back
American X
12-07-2016, 10:23 PM
Walton: I'm not familiar with the A10
All time line
Billy Packer - "I don't know anything about these mid-majors." After St. Joseph's received #1 seed (and #1 ranking, undefeated regular season, and consensus national POY).
paulxu
12-07-2016, 10:23 PM
Strange game. Ed and JP can't score. Gates misses 3 3's.
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 10:23 PM
You have to watch that charging circle...
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sirthought
12-07-2016, 10:24 PM
I like an aggressive Sean O'Mara. He's got a lot advantage, if he takes it.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:24 PM
O'Mara is a senior, per Walton.
D-West & PO-Z
12-07-2016, 10:26 PM
We seem to travel a lot. Wouldnt think it would be that hard to dribble before stepping.
XU 87
12-07-2016, 10:26 PM
Walton loves "Kaiser Gaston" LOL
I heard that too. But Walton, or someone on that tv staff, sure did their homework on Xavier.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:26 PM
How do kids who have been playing basketball their entire lives still travel like Goodin just did? I'm not talking about a fast break where sometimes it just happens with timing, but from a standstill in the triple threat position? So frustrating.
XUFan09
12-07-2016, 10:27 PM
I like an aggressive Sean O'Mara. He's got a lot advantage, if he takes it.
It's night and day for him and Gaston, matchup-wise. Baylor's frontcourt was a miserable matchup for them but now they have an opponent where they can use their size to their advantage.
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Xpectations
12-07-2016, 10:28 PM
Walton: "Kaiser Gates dominating the inside" (meaning, Rashid Gaston)
BMoreX
12-07-2016, 10:29 PM
Feed is all kinds of bad last 10 mins or so
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:31 PM
What was that Trevon?
muskieindent
12-07-2016, 10:31 PM
Another offensive funk. Wild shot by Treyvon.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:31 PM
Colorado is not that good
XMuskieFTW
12-07-2016, 10:32 PM
This offense is so painful to watch right now. Can we get some ball movement before the shot clock reaches 15 please.
sirthought
12-07-2016, 10:33 PM
Colorado is not that good
Apparently neither is X the way they are playing now.
AviatorX
12-07-2016, 10:33 PM
How do kids who have been playing basketball their entire lives still travel like Goodin just did? I'm not talking about a fast break where sometimes it just happens with timing, but from a standstill in the triple threat position? So frustrating.
They are really cracking down on that specific play this year. Easy to get away with that one in the past
BMoreX
12-07-2016, 10:34 PM
The feed cutting out every minute or so now certainly doesn't help my blood pressure given how this game has turned
RyanblockXU
12-07-2016, 10:35 PM
I think it's pretty clear at least early on... we're no where near as good as last year.
This Colorado team won't even make the tourney and we might barely crack 65 on them
Jesuit4Life
12-07-2016, 10:35 PM
Feed is all kinds of bad last 10 mins or so
Try a lower bandwidth link? Hasn't cut out at all here, though I am using VLC instead of their media player.
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letskeepitreal
12-07-2016, 10:36 PM
This has gone south on us real fast.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:36 PM
Gonna lose this one. Just terrible offense.
muskieindent
12-07-2016, 10:37 PM
Colorado is not that good
Right now they're better than us
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:37 PM
Right now they're better than us
That ain't saying much.
muskieindent
12-07-2016, 10:37 PM
This has gone south on us real fast.
Looks like the Baylor game all over again
KabeX
12-07-2016, 10:37 PM
Oy Walton is hard to listen to.
Turn this crap around damn it. Maybe throw inside? Ugh.
GoMuskies
12-07-2016, 10:38 PM
This is a horseshit performance. We'd best get a lot better, because right now we kinda suck.
sgarcia
12-07-2016, 10:38 PM
Hopefully Ed can work on that jumper and have a lot more confidence in it next year.
scoscox
12-07-2016, 10:38 PM
How do kids who have been playing basketball their entire lives still travel like Goodin just did? I'm not talking about a fast break where sometimes it just happens with timing, but from a standstill in the triple threat position? So frustrating.
That call is made all the time and I rarely see guys actually moving their pivot foot. I don't know why that's become a fashionable call for referees, but it's really not a travel.
mohr5150
12-07-2016, 10:38 PM
This is a very pedestrian team.
BMoreX
12-07-2016, 10:38 PM
This is garbage
Xpectations
12-07-2016, 10:38 PM
Only 5 players have scored for X with 6:45 left.
kellernr
12-07-2016, 10:39 PM
X is a fringe top 25 team. Extremely overrated. No inside game and our best player just floats around the court chucking up 3s. So far this year I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe blueitt and Sumner will get drafted.
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nuts4xu
12-07-2016, 10:39 PM
Walton just mentioned Tres Tinkle, who plays for the Beavers.
Giggity.
paulxu
12-07-2016, 10:39 PM
Just like Baylor. Leading and the wheels come off. No pts in the last 6 minutes.
RyanblockXU
12-07-2016, 10:39 PM
It's the gaston and blueitt show. No one else even showed up.
What is this team's identity exactly?
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 10:40 PM
More of the same. After 8 games this team can't shoot and again this year has a hard time defending the 3.
kellernr
12-07-2016, 10:40 PM
Gonna lose this one. Just terrible offense.
Mack must have cronins play book. Pass around the 3pt line for 28 seconds and throw up a 3
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X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:40 PM
Great performance guys
PattyMac1021
12-07-2016, 10:41 PM
Xavier has no front court, can't shoot, and can't make free throws.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:41 PM
Almost 7 minutes without a basket!!!
Xville
12-07-2016, 10:41 PM
Just not a very good team right now...can we get better? Sure...will we? Jury is out....what exactly did sumner do all summer? He seems to have regressed
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 10:41 PM
Gave up 14 straight points. Just like Baylor. Soft as shit
XfansinKy
12-07-2016, 10:41 PM
I was wrong. They miss Myles. They have a very scared point guard right now and it's infectious.
scoscox
12-07-2016, 10:42 PM
What is this team's identity exactly?
Main problem right there. No James Farr to carry the team in certain spots is standing out unfortunately more than I hoped it would.
paulxu
12-07-2016, 10:42 PM
This has got to distress Mack. Lead for 3/4th of the game, and then blam....nothing.
XfansinKy
12-07-2016, 10:43 PM
Bill Walton is high too. Really...he's got a good buzz
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 10:43 PM
I was wrong. They miss Myles. They have a very scared point guard right now and it's infectious.
Plays scared all the time
paulxu
12-07-2016, 10:44 PM
Foul fest coming.
PattyMac1021
12-07-2016, 10:45 PM
Free throws are really not that hard to make.
Please just give the ball to Gaston, he's the only player who's going strong to the basket.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:45 PM
If this comes down to FT's, X will lose for sure.
muskieindent
12-07-2016, 10:46 PM
This is the worst foul shooting Xavier team I can
ever remember .May as well foul our bigs
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:47 PM
That was spectacular defense. They set a pick and the everyone for Xavier just gets out of his way.
mohr5150
12-07-2016, 10:47 PM
Why are people so high on Sumner? I understand the potential, but he can't shoot, he turns the ball over at an alarming rate, and his drives to the basket have become so out of control it is laughable.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:48 PM
I'll take a terrible win over a loss any day, but even if X wins, this team has some issues that will need fixed badly.
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 10:48 PM
Just foul Gaston. Really hack a shack is what I would do.
Xpectations
12-07-2016, 10:48 PM
No inside game and our best player
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Have you been watching Gaston tonight?
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:48 PM
Why are people so high on Sumner? I understand the potential, but he can't shoot, he turns the ball over at an alarming rate, and his drives to the basket have become so out of control it is laughable.
Starting to agree. I see no way he gets drafted next year, potential or not.
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 10:49 PM
Mack recruited this horrible FT shooters
RyanblockXU
12-07-2016, 10:49 PM
Both of these teams lack rim protecting shot blockers and yet both teams have combined for 41 3 point shots
sirthought
12-07-2016, 10:49 PM
We really miss Myles Davis leadership. Sumner and Bluiett need to step up and direct the show.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:50 PM
Getting abused by a sorry Colorado team
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 10:50 PM
How many years in a row have we not defended the 3 well?
PattyMac1021
12-07-2016, 10:50 PM
This team will be lucky to make the tournament.
Xville
12-07-2016, 10:51 PM
Houston, we have a problem. Mack has a ton of work to do
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:51 PM
This is laughable...we suck at FT's.
Xville
12-07-2016, 10:52 PM
How many years in a row have we not defended the 3 well?
Every single one coached by mack. Im not a mack hater but nit a mack cheerleader either...
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 10:52 PM
We might be ok come February. Right now this is NOT a top 25 team. Not even close.
paulxu
12-07-2016, 10:53 PM
The ESPN twitter feed is a Colorado love fest. I think they enjoy a BE team losing.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:54 PM
Trevon taken to school off the dribble
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 10:54 PM
The 1-3-1 was at times really effective last year. This year.......what happened?
drudy23
12-07-2016, 10:55 PM
Ed needs to develop a crossover
scoscox
12-07-2016, 10:55 PM
Speaking of travels... how was that not a travel on Xavier Johnson? It was
sgarcia
12-07-2016, 10:55 PM
The 1-3-1 was at times really effective last year. This year.......what happened?
You don't have 6'10" Reynolds and his 7'2" wingspan in the middle
drudy23
12-07-2016, 10:55 PM
The 1-3-1 was at times really effective last year. This year.......what happened?
Personnel
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 10:56 PM
JP is awful right now.
muskieindent
12-07-2016, 10:56 PM
What's wrong with JP?
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:56 PM
JP comes up 4 feet short on a three....
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:57 PM
How stupid was that series?
RyanblockXU
12-07-2016, 10:58 PM
If x wins, it's because Colorado gave it to them with those 3 bad D possessions
X Factor
12-07-2016, 10:58 PM
Clutch shot from that kid
mistabeecee41
12-07-2016, 10:58 PM
done. no composure.
Defensive stop: Check. Lucky break on out of bounds: Check. Offensive board from Gaston: Check. Stupid 3 from JP: Check.
drudy23
12-07-2016, 10:58 PM
This is what happens when u let average teams stick around.
mohr5150
12-07-2016, 10:58 PM
What a frustrating team.
sirthought
12-07-2016, 10:58 PM
Every friggin game he makes uncalled for shots like that!
He deserves to sit when that happens.
Xville
12-07-2016, 10:59 PM
That will do it..of course its early in the season but man i just dont know if the personnel works this year.
XfansinKy
12-07-2016, 11:00 PM
Bunch of pussies right now.
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 11:00 PM
We take A LOT of really bad shots........work the offense and get the best shot........we haven't gone inside in the last 5 possessions
sirthought
12-07-2016, 11:01 PM
It's unbelievable, but they do have a chance to tie or take the lead.
GreatWhiteNorth
12-07-2016, 11:01 PM
The way this is going, Sumner will return next year.
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 11:02 PM
We can't get a stop ....ever when we really need it. Soft
muskieindent
12-07-2016, 11:02 PM
We can't get stops when we need it.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 11:02 PM
Can't get a stop when we need it
bleedXblue
12-07-2016, 11:02 PM
The way this is going, Sumner will return next year.
It's early......but I agree he has hit a wall. Not much of an improvement so far this year
paulxu
12-07-2016, 11:03 PM
Gates and Macura being 0-8 from 3 is the story of this game.
X Factor
12-07-2016, 11:03 PM
Odds Sumner makes both FT's?
sirthought
12-07-2016, 11:04 PM
It's early......but I agree he has hit a wall. Not much of an improvement so far this year
I think when he was playing with Davis on the floor, that really helped him.
PattyMac1021
12-07-2016, 11:04 PM
This team is fucking terrible.
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