Give me myles davis, or give me death!!

[Snipe]

I think that Baylor has a fine team and that they deserve all the accolades. Guess what bitches? You get to come to the lovely confines of the Cintas Center next year. I expect they will get a warm reception.

I love the series and would be all up to renew it. Love to play Baylor every year. I love our fearless schedule. No problem with me letting them expose some of our flaws early on. Would like to know what those flaws are in November or December so we can work on them. Better than being shocked into action later in the season.

I have said it before. Myles is my favorite player. I can't wait to get him back. This team cannot compete at the highest level without Ole Man Myles. I have been waiting for his senior year as long as he has, for four years. I want the future to start right now. Can't wait to get him back.

We have talent but we are not a team. We have stats but stats aren't enough. We need to come together as a team.

Our inside game needs developing. Can Myles help that, I think so. I like when we when inside out in the past. Perhaps that wont be the option it was, but we need to do more on offense that pass the ball on the perimeter. People that thought that the departure of Jalen Reynolds was addition by subtraction had a serious math error. That young man would have raged on this team. We have too many men that go to the pros to early. They would be better off if they stayed right here. I digress.

I love this team. We will have more losses. Tough job coming up right now against Colorado. It would be a great win for us, or a great learning experience if we lose. I am upbeat about the Muskies. I thought we were overrated for sure. That pissed off some of my friends. I can see us as a top 10 team late in the year. I can see us winning the Big East. We just aren't there yet.

And we need one Myles Davis, my favorite Muskie.

We have two players nominated for the highest honor in college hoops, but in my opinion, our best player, my favorite player, the straw that stirs the drink, had yet to play once second.

FREE MYLES DAVIS!!

GIVE ME MYLES DAVIS, OR GIVE ME DEATH!!

[Masterofreality]

This is all 100% true.

Our bigs will determine how far we go. If the bigs develop and prove they can finish and convert it takes away the option of other defenses pressuring our perimeter guys, who we all know are our chief scorers. Baylor adjusted that way in the second half and we were found wanting. That must improve and I believe it will.

[bleedXblue]

Baylor might have one of the best defenses in the country. Look at all of their second half comebacks against some pretty good teams. All of them led by their stifling D.

To me, our lack of converting the bunnies in the first half....and missed FT's in the 2nd half allowed them to pull away. Add to that the 3-4 consecutive possession where they nailed huge 3 pointers.

Time to move on.

And yes, Myles is also my favorite player, We're in need of his leadership, calm composure and ability to hit big shots.

[Mrs. Garrett]

I think that Baylor has a fine team and that they deserve all the accolades. Guess what bitches? You get to come to the lovely confines of the Cintas Center next year. I expect they will get a warm reception.

I love the series and would be all up to renew it. Love to play Baylor every year. I love our fearless schedule. No problem with me letting them expose some of our flaws early on. Would like to know what those flaws are in November or December so we can work on them. Better than being shocked into action later in the season.

I have said it before. Myles is my favorite player. I can't wait to get him back. This team cannot compete at the highest level without Ole Man Myles. I have been waiting for his senior year as long as he has, for four years. I want the future to start right now. Can't wait to get him back.

We have talent but we are not a team. We have stats but stats aren't enough. We need to come together as a team.

Our inside game needs developing. Can Myles help that, I think so. I like when we when inside out in the past. Perhaps that wont be the option it was, but we need to do more on offense that pass the ball on the perimeter. People that thought that the departure of Jalen Reynolds was addition by subtraction had a serious math error. That young man would have raged on this team. We have too many men that go to the pros to early. They would be better off if they stayed right here. I digress.

I love this team. We will have more losses. Tough job coming up right now against Colorado. It would be a great win for us, or a great learning experience if we lose. I am upbeat about the Muskies. I thought we were overrated for sure. That pissed off some of my friends. I can see us as a top 10 team late in the year. I can see us winning the Big East. We just aren't there yet.

And we need one Myles Davis, my favorite Muskie.

We have two players nominated for the highest honor in college hoops, but in my opinion, our best player, my favorite player, the straw that stirs the drink, had yet to play once second.

FREE MYLES DAVIS!!

GIVE ME MYLES DAVIS, OR GIVE ME DEATH!!

Both would work for me

[Muskie]

I think that Baylor has a fine team and that they deserve all the accolades. Guess what bitches? You get to come to the lovely confines of the Cintas Center next year. I expect they will get a warm reception.

I love the series and would be all up to renew it. Love to play Baylor every year. I love our fearless schedule. No problem with me letting them expose some of our flaws early on. Would like to know what those flaws are in November or December so we can work on them. Better than being shocked into action later in the season.

I have said it before. Myles is my favorite player. I can't wait to get him back. This team cannot compete at the highest level without Ole Man Myles. I have been waiting for his senior year as long as he has, for four years. I want the future to start right now. Can't wait to get him back.

We have talent but we are not a team. We have stats but stats aren't enough. We need to come together as a team.

Our inside game needs developing. Can Myles help that, I think so. I like when we when inside out in the past. Perhaps that wont be the option it was, but we need to do more on offense that pass the ball on the perimeter. People that thought that the departure of Jalen Reynolds was addition by subtraction had a serious math error. That young man would have raged on this team. We have too many men that go to the pros to early. They would be better off if they stayed right here. I digress.

I love this team. We will have more losses. Tough job coming up right now against Colorado. It would be a great win for us, or a great learning experience if we lose. I am upbeat about the Muskies. I thought we were overrated for sure. That pissed off some of my friends. I can see us as a top 10 team late in the year. I can see us winning the Big East. We just aren't there yet.

And we need one Myles Davis, my favorite Muskie.

We have two players nominated for the highest honor in college hoops, but in my opinion, our best player, my favorite player, the straw that stirs the drink, had yet to play once second.

FREE MYLES DAVIS!!

GIVE ME MYLES DAVIS, OR GIVE ME DEATH!!

Did you really just declare Myles Davis our best player?

[Drew]

As long as the team is improving throughout the year then this lose doesn't bother me. Two years ago Xavier lost almost every other game in conference but they got better and were ready when March rolled around. Last regular season was great, but ultimately the goal is success in March.

[XU 87]

This is all 100% true.

Our bigs will determine how far we go. If the bigs develop and prove they can finish and convert it takes away the option of other defenses pressuring our perimeter guys, who we all know are our chief scorers. Baylor adjusted that way in the second half and we were found wanting. That must improve and I believe it will.

The bigs needs to shoot better than 1-8 from the free throw. Poor free throw shooting is what started the second half downfall. I don't expect the bigs to ever make a high percentage of free throws this year, but they at least need to make in the 50-60 percent range.

I also look forward to the first caller to the Mack show who says, "You need to practice free throws more", or "When I was in school, we used to do XYZ to practice free throws."

[birdman71]

The bigs needs to shoot better than 1-8 from the free throw. Poor free throw shooting is what started the second half downfall. I don't expect the bigs to ever make a high percentage of free throws this year, but they at least need to make in the 50-60 percent range.

I also look forward to the first caller to the Mack show who says, "You need to practice free throws more", or "When I was in school, we used to do XYZ to practice free throws."

Coach Mack, when I was a boy, we shot free throws underhand with both hands from between our legs......and we loved it!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ha.

I was watching a little of a Florida game the other day and Rick Barry's son (how many does he have? and how wide in age do they vary?) plays there and he shoots his FT's underhanded. It was pretty funny to see.

[XU 87]

Coach Mack, when I was a boy, we shot free throws underhand with both hands from between our legs......and we loved it!

"Rick Barry shot them like that, and he was a 90% free throw shooter."

[GreatWhiteNorth]

I do not understand why some of the players are such terrible FT shooters. They have been playing basketball for years and they were trained by coaches in high schools and colleges, so why can't they grasp what it takes to make FTs ?

[paulxu]

You can lie awake at night thinking about this.
Wilt, who holds about every record in the book, is the second worst free throw shooter in NBA history
Someday he may be surpassed by Andre Drummond, who missed 23 FT's in one game; and who signed a 5 yr contract a few months ago for $127 million, making him the highest paid Detroit Piston ever...and someday the worse FT shooter in the history of the game.

[Nigel Tufnel]

I remember hearing or reading that Shaq would make free throws at a very high percentage in practice...then get in the game and yuck.

[bobbiemcgee]

I remember hearing or reading that Shaq would make free throws at a very high percentage in practice...then get in the game and yuck.

You have to relax when shooting ft's. Myles does this best. Our guys look like the are trying to hit a 100 mph fastball from Randy Johnson.
All tensed up. Stay loose and relaxed.

[spursy]

You have to relax when shooting ft's. Myles does this best. Our guys look like the are trying to hit a 100 mph fastball from Randy Johnson.
All tensed up. Stay loose and relaxed.

"3. Shaq makes free throws in practice. Why can't he make them in games? Everyone shoots a higher percentage in practice: Karl Malone, a career 76-percent free-throw shooter, doesn't end his warm-up until he sinks 30 in a row. Yet in 16 seasons Malone has never sunk 30 straight in league competition. The percentage you shoot while spending a relaxed 20 minutes at the line as an assistant tosses you the ball is no indication of what you'll shoot in the game. If you run and bang for 15 minutes, then shoot two free throws, then repeat that running-banging-shooting process four times for a total of 10 attempts, you might get a better idea of what your game percentage will be."
via http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2001/05/why_shaq_shoots_sure_shots.html

[XUGRAD80]

There as many different reasons as there are different players.....mental, physical, practice habits, ability to handle pressure, inability to handle pressure, concentration capabilities, etc. etc. etc.

Heck, I could walk onto the court tonight and shoot 70%.... in an empty gym, with nobody watching. But I have no idea what it would be like to do it in front of 10,000 fans and on TV.

Mike Nugent probably hits 99 out of 100 extra point tries in practice and then missed them in games.....and he's a veteran kicker who's been doing it on the college and pro level for years. There are pro golfers that play for years and then can't make a 5 foot putt to save their lives.

[XUMIOH12]

you are the Patrick Henry of this message board

[Xpectations]

Coach Mack, when I was a boy, we shot free throws underhand with both hands from between our legs......and we loved it!


"Rick Barry shot them like that, and he was a 90% free throw shooter."


Wilt, who holds about every record in the book, is the second worst free throw shooter in NBA history.


Funny factoid - Wilt Chamberlain experimented with shooting free throws "granny style" (underhanded) during the '61-'62 season. It remains the only season he shot over 60% from the FT line.

He made 28 of 32 free throws (88%) in a single game shooting underhanded. It was his famous 100-point game.

But despite his underhanded FT success, he reverted to shooting free throws conventionally because he thought it made him look like a sissy, which didn't really fit his "Big Dipper" reputation.

He went on to shoot just over 46% from the line in his final 10 NBA seasons.

[bjf123]

Funny factoid - Wilt Chamberlain experimented with shooting free throws "granny style" (underhanded) during the '61-'62 season. It remains the only season he shot over 60% from the FT line.

He made 28 of 32 free throws (88%) in a single game shooting underhanded. It was his famous 100-point game.

But despite his underhanded FT success, he reverted to shooting free throws conventionally because he thought it made him look like a sissy, which didn't really fit his "Big Dipper" reputation.

He went on to shoot just over 46% from the line in his final 10 NBA seasons.

Seemed to work OK for Rick Barry. He's still #7 on the career FT % list.


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[xu82]

Seemed to work OK for Rick Barry. He's still #7 on the career FT % list.


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Maybe Wilt thought he wouldn't get laid as much if he shot FT's like a wussy? You know, lose out on 5,000-10,000 "events" could represent a severe loss of lifestyle.

[American X]

Do not think of it as 'granny' style, think of it as Jackie Moon Style:


http://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/12/4/68410380-jackie-moon-semipro-sounds-1-0-s-307x512.jpg

[nuts4xu]

Did you really just declare Myles Davis our best player?

Forget it, he's rolling.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrEhb38CEAAdPUo.jpg

[Irishjohn68]

When will Myles Davis be back?

[Juice]

When will Myles Davis be back?

He better be back after Saturday's game.

[SemajParlor]

Myles negatively live tweeting during the game. I love Mack, I love Xavier. I don't think they have handled this well from the very beginning.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I guess this is the new Myles Davis status update thread? Anyway, here we go:

"‏@FOX19Jeremy For #Xavier fans, I'm told Myles Davis will return sometime at the beginning of conference play. End December, early January."

[xuinmd]

How outright stupid of him if he tweeted that.

[xufan2434]

I guess this is the new Myles Davis status update thread? Anyway, here we go:

"‏@FOX19Jeremy For #Xavier fans, I'm told Myles Davis will return sometime at the beginning of conference play. End December, early January."

Shannon just confirmed will 100% not be before Christmas... In a joking but not joking manner, this has been fun and all. But it'd be nice to have him back

[Juice]

Myles negatively live tweeting during the game. I love Mack, I love Xavier. I don't think they have handled this well from the very beginning.

Copy of tweets ?

[XUMIOH12]

Copy of tweets ?

all i saw was one tweet that said "Really tho". But i didnt see until later, maybe he deleted the others?

[vee4xu]

We are likely to see Miles Davis

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2015/09/17/magazine/18-miles-davis.w1200.h630.jpg

Before we see Myles Davis

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5228dd28e4b05c5567875a75/t/5790d46c9de4bb65defac67a/1469109356694/image.jpg

[LA Muskie]

People need to stop looking at this from the academic calendar perspective. The academic schedule has VERY little to do with the Myles Davis situation. He is still SUSPENDED from the team. He will be back when Mack lifts the suspension. And the academic calendar will have very little to do with that.

[xu82]

People need to stop looking at this from the academic calendar perspective. The academic schedule has VERY little to do with the Myles Davis situation. He is still SUSPENDED from the team. He will be back when Mack lifts the suspension. And the academic calendar will have very little to do with that.

Umm, why not? If Mack wanted to lift the suspension tomorrow, could Myles play if he's not enrolled? Is he enrolled? Are you saying it will last beyond the end of first semester or beginning of the second? Not sure if I'm following. I think people are not asking when WILL he play as much as when CAN he play. (Well, both really...)

[LA Muskie]

Umm, why not? If Mack wanted to lift the suspension tomorrow, could Myles play if he's not enrolled? Is he enrolled? Are you saying it will last beyond the end of first semester or beginning of the second? Not sure if I'm following. I think people are not asking when WILL he play as much as when CAN he play. (Well, both really...)

He can't play until the suspension is lifted. Everything else is irrelevant --especially since the suspension will not be lifted until the conclusion of the 1st semester at the very earliest, regardless.

This is not an eligibility issue. Everyone just keeps turning it into one.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Myles will play as soon as the semester or quarter is over. So I say we should see him back in a few weeks. You heard it hear first.

[D-West & PO-Z]

He can't play until the suspension is lifted. Everything else is irrelevant --especially since the suspension will not be lifted until the conclusion of the 1st semester at the very earliest, regardless.

This is not an eligibility issue. Everyone just keeps turning it into one.

Um I guess I sort of get what you are saying but it is also an eligibility issue. The suspension will not be lifted until the conclusion of the 1st semester at the very earliest regardless because it CANNOT be lifted before the end of the semester (even if Mack wanted it to be). I'm not sure why you think eligibility has nothing to do with this? You seem to think you know Mack would absolutely not lift the suspension any earlier even if he could (which he cant). If that were the case I would agree with someone else who stated previously that punishment wouldnt really fit the crime and that XU has handled this poorly.

I think people are asking about eligibility because they want to know when Myles could come back eligibility wise because that still is not clear. Its clear he could not come back tomorrow if the suspension was lifted but it isnt clear what that earliest time would be.

[xu82]

Well, really it seems to be two issues. Mack could lift the suspension today, but that does not make him eligible. He could be enrolled, but the suspension could remain. That's why the questions persist. Now if there is knowledge that the suspension will not end before a certain date in the second semester, that ends that.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Well, really it seems to be two issues. Mack could lift the suspension today, but that does not make him eligible. He could be enrolled, but the suspension could remain. That's why the questions persist. Now if there is knowledge that the suspension will not end before a certain date in the second semester, that ends that.

Yeah agree. The problem is this isnt a normal suspension bc eligibility does very much play a part in this because even if Myles met all his obligations and MAck felt satisfied there is still a certain date Myles could not play until. I just wish we knew that exact date. Seems like we probably have it narrowed down to two choices but still wish we knew for certain. Now it could very well be that Myles will remain suspended past that date but I would find that a curious decision by Mack unless Myles did not complete some certain requirement.

[LA Muskie]

Here's the thing. I think you're confusing cause and effect. Myles is not enrolled and hence not eligible because Mack told him there was no way he was coming back 1st semester and, instead of taking classes, was instructed to take the time to get his stuff in order. If there was ANY chance Mack EVER would have considered reinstating Myles before the end of the 1st semester, Mack would have had him enrolled.

The "indefinite suspension" will likely be lifted around the end of the 1st semester on 12/16. But practically speaking there will be very little by way of practice until 1/2, given games on 12/17 and 12/20, Christmas at home with their families, games on 12/28 and 12/31, and mandatory off days. So I think we're most likely to see a 1/7 return vs St. John's.


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[xu82]

Here's the thing. I think you're confusing cause and effect. Myles is not enrolled and hence not eligible because Mack told him there was no way he was coming back 1st semester and, instead of taking classes, was instructed to take the time to get his stuff in order. If there was ANY chance Mack EVER would have considered reinstating Myles before the end of the 1st semester, Mack would have had him enrolled.

The "indefinite suspension" will likely be lifted around the end of the 1st semester on 12/16. But practically speaking there will be very little by way of practice until 1/2, given games on 12/17 and 12/20, Christmas at home with their families, games on 12/28 and 12/31, and mandatory off days. So I think we're most likely to see a 1/7 return vs St. John's.


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I'll buy that, and I'll look forward to it as I'll be at that game sitting in my painstakingly procured aisle seats.

[nuts4xu]

There are no mandatory off days over Christmas break. Mack could have 3 practice sessions per day if he wanted to.

[X-band '01]

There are no mandatory off days over Christmas break. Mack could have 3 practice sessions per day if he wanted to.

What Nuts said. Coaches like Bob Huggins and Bob Knight would have the players practice on Christmas Day (or even Christmas Eve) as punishment when necessary. It also bears pointing out that happened when they were not involved in a holiday tournament like the Rainbow/Diamond Head Classic.

[XfansinKy]

I get confused.

[xukeith]

Myles will play as soon as the semester or quarter is over. So I say we should see him back in a few weeks. You heard it hear first.

He has not practiced one day and he has ZERO game legs this season. I won't expect any good production from him until mid to late January.

[LA Muskie]

There are no mandatory off days over Christmas break. Mack could have 3 practice sessions per day if he wanted to.

Yes and no. There are no daily (4 hrs) or weekly (20 hrs) hours limitations during the holiday break. [NCAA Bylaw 17.1.5.3.6]

However the in-season mandatory weekly day off still applies. [NCAA Bylaw 17.1.5.4]

Of course if he gives them Christmas off, there's one off day right there. [NCAA Bylaw 17.1.5.4.4]. And depending on how they defined their "week", if they have the day before or after off that may well count as the other. [NCAA Bylaw 17.1.5.3.3]


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[LA Muskie]

What Nuts said. Coaches like Bob Huggins and Bob Knight would have the players practice on Christmas Day (or even Christmas Eve) as punishment when necessary. It also bears pointing out that happened when they were not involved in a holiday tournament like the Rainbow/Diamond Head Classic.

There is no prohibition to scheduling a practice on Christmas. That is true. But it's my understanding that Mack typically gives the team off to join their families for Christmas every year.

Also, particularly given our depth issues I'm pretty sure over-practicing is the very last thing Mack wants to do.

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[X-band '01]

Any coach worth their salt will have a break right before Christmas - that's why you don't normally have games from the 24th through the 26th. Even the 23rd and 27th don't have too many games for that reason.

[D-West & PO-Z]

He has not practiced one day and he has ZERO game legs this season. I won't expect any good production from him until mid to late January.

I think you are overthinking this. You think hes been sitting on his ass for the last 3 months?

He's a 23 yo 5th year college athlete who I'm sure has been working out and playing ball. Obviously some adjustment period but I think he'll be ok.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Here's the thing. I think you're confusing cause and effect. Myles is not enrolled and hence not eligible because Mack told him there was no way he was coming back 1st semester and, instead of taking classes, was instructed to take the time to get his stuff in order. If there was ANY chance Mack EVER would have considered reinstating Myles before the end of the 1st semester, Mack would have had him enrolled.

The "indefinite suspension" will likely be lifted around the end of the 1st semester on 12/16. But practically speaking there will be very little by way of practice until 1/2, given games on 12/17 and 12/20, Christmas at home with their families, games on 12/28 and 12/31, and mandatory off days. So I think we're most likely to see a 1/7 return vs St. John's.


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Ok fair enough.

So you think Myles will be reinstated but sit 2 games bc he hasnt practiced enough? I would be shocked if he sits 2 games he is "eligible" for.

[bleedXblue]

Holy cow the ridiculous bickering. Myles will play right away and will be worked back into the rotation based on how he feels and how he performs. Who's minutes he gets and how it impacts the rotation is anyone's guess.

[mid major]

You have to relax when shooting ft's. Myles does this best. Our guys look like the are trying to hit a 100 mph fastball from Randy Johnson.
All tensed up. Stay loose and relaxed.

How about our guys trying to hit a 72 mph knuckleball from Tim Wakefield?

[xufan2434]

All I ask for at this point is that Myles is back for the ridiculous 3 game stretch in January

1/10 @ Nova
1/14 @ Butler
1/16 vs Creighton

And by back, I mean has a couple games under his belt and ready to go. May be wishful thinking

[muskiefan82]

Does ANY TEAM have a tougher stretch than that? Geez. That's brutal, but also an opportunity for ridiculousness that no one else has. Imagine that as a 3-0 stretch. Talk about crazy. I so love this conference. Beats the hell out of @Dayton; @Lasalle; Duquesne

[XUFan09]

Does ANY TEAM have a tougher stretch than that? Geez. That's brutal, but also an opportunity for ridiculousness that no one else has. Imagine that as a 3-0 stretch. Talk about crazy. I so love this conference. Beats the hell out of @Dayton; @Lasalle; Duquesne
Yeah, there's a solid chance that even if Xavier returns to top 10 form, this could be an 0-3 stretch. A game at Nova needs no explanation, Butler will be tough on their home court, and Creighton might be coming to the Cintas Center, but they are the worst matchup Xavier will face all season. My bet is 1-2.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

Gotta win the home games and the road games against the bottom and hope to steal a couple against the rest on the road.

[D-West & PO-Z]

And that is the bare minimum requirement to try and finish at top of conference.

[sgarcia]

All I ask for at this point is that Myles is back for the ridiculous 3 game stretch in January

1/10 @ Nova
1/14 @ Butler
1/16 vs Creighton

And by back, I mean has a couple games under his belt and ready to go. May be wishful thinking

Go take a look at who Creighton plays 2 days before coming to our building. Ridiculous.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Go take a look at who Creighton plays 2 days before coming to our building. Ridiculous.

Damn I was hoping you meant ridiculous as in ridiculously hard for them. I was hoping it was @Nova.

I see I was way off.

[X-band '01]

Hey now, that opponent you're talking about is 8-2 and 2-1 in their league.

The only problem is that it's Truman State - a D-II team in Bellarmine's league.

[Muskie]

Hey now, that opponent you're talking about is 8-2 and 2-1 in their league.

The only problem is that it's Truman State - a D-II team in Bellarmine's league. Are you saying Truman State couldn't win the A-10?

[X-band '01]

Are you saying Truman State couldn't win the A-10?

That's only because they're too physical for a team like UC.

[xufan2434]

Go take a look at who Creighton plays 2 days before coming to our building. Ridiculous.

Haha wait a minute... How the hell did they sneak that game in there mid-conference like that??

[THRILLHOUSE]

Go take a look at who Creighton plays 2 days before coming to our building. Ridiculous.

HA! When I looked up their schedule, I was expecting a weak conference foe like St John's or Depaul. Truman State? What an odd opponent to be playing in the middle of conference play.

[THRILLHOUSE]

The only problem is that it's Truman State - a D-II team in Bellarmine's league.

And were the replacement for NKU in that conference (GLVC) when the Norse went Division 1.

[birdman71]

Truman State? Are they named after Harry Truman or Truman Burbank?

[bobbiemcgee]

Wow. Talk about a thread getting off topic. Anybody see Myles walking around campus today? Maybe at the admissions office?

[X-band '01]

Wow. Talk about a thread getting off topic. Anybody see Myles walking around campus today? Maybe at the admissions office?

Give me Myles Davis, or give me Truman State! Mods, if we can change the topic to that, we're all good.

[xukeith]

If nobody has seen Myles anywhere, I assume he is not enrolling until January. Boy will he be out of shape and behind all the practice players.

Maybe all those cell phones are playing on his conscience(or XU admin's conscience). How is his ex?

[xu82]

If nobody has seen Myles anywhere, I assume he is not enrolling until January. Boy will he be out of shape and behind all the practice players.

Maybe all those cell phones are playing on his conscience(or XU admin's conscience). How is his ex?

I'm willing to bet someone has seen Myles, somewhere. And I bet people are allowed to do more than sit on the coach and eat Twinkies wherever that may be. I get it may not be game shape, but don't be too extreme here. It will take some time and how long that takes is yet to be seen.

[bleedXblue]

If nobody has seen Myles anywhere, I assume he is not enrolling until January. Boy will he be out of shape and behind all the practice players.

Maybe all those cell phones are playing on his conscience(or XU admin's conscience). How is his ex?

Another wonderfully positive post Keith! Keep em' coming!

[Xpectations]

If nobody has seen Myles anywhere, I assume he is not enrolling until January. Boy will he be out of shape and behind all the practice players.

Maybe all those cell phones are playing on his conscience(or XU admin's conscience). How is his ex?

Let he without sin...

[vee4xu]

Let he without sin...

…cast the first cell phone!

[TUclutch]

If nobody has seen Myles anywhere, I assume he is not enrolling until January. Boy will he be out of shape and behind all the practice players.

Maybe all those cell phones are playing on his conscience(or XU admin's conscience). How is his ex?

You're entire post was off base and laughable, but what was the point of the bolded question? I would leave any mention of her off the board for a variety of reasons. If you want to discuss the issue, put the blame where it belongs and leave the victim out of it.

[XUGRAD80]

Knew a kid once that broke his leg during soccer season, near the end of it too. Missed the whole first half of his senior year of wrestling, where he was considered in the top 5 of state in D1/Ohio. Was finally able to start practicing after Christmas, and boy was he bad at that time...weak, out of shape, no timing, no endurance, etc. But by the time the tournaments came around...March....he was al last back to his old self. He made it all the way to the state finals before losing. He got so far because of determination and the willingness to work for what he wanted.....beyond what others did in normal practice. Don't underestimate either how out of sorts Myles may be early in his comeback OR what a motivating factor seeing the end of you college career right in front of you is.

[birdman71]

You're entire post was off base and laughable, but what was the point of the bolded question? I would leave any mention of her off the board for a variety of reasons. If you want to discuss the issue, put the blame where it belongs and leave the victim out of it.

Well said, tuclutch.

[Xpectations]

…cast the first cell phone!

Well played, sir!

[TUclutch]

Knew a kid once that broke his leg during soccer season, near the end of it too. Missed the whole first half of his senior year of wrestling, where he was considered in the top 5 of state in D1/Ohio. Was finally able to start practicing after Christmas, and boy was he bad at that time...weak, out of shape, no timing, no endurance, etc. But by the time the tournaments came around...March....he was al last back to his old self. He made it all the way to the state finals before losing. He got so far because of determination and the willingness to work for what he wanted.....beyond what others did in normal practice. Don't underestimate either how out of sorts Myles may be early in his comeback OR what a motivating factor seeing the end of you college career right in front of you is.

big difference between the situation you just described where they were out of any action for weeks or months vs MDs situation of not being with the team, but he definitely has been playing and practicing

[XUGRAD80]

big difference between the situation you just described where they were out of any action for weeks or months vs MDs situation of not being with the team, but he definitely has been playing and practicing

Point of the story was to give an example of where someone that missed time from practice was still very productive by the time the tourneys came about. It was in response to a comment about Myles being out of shape, etc. when he came back. I would expect Mykes, who has had the opportunity to train, practice, play, while away, to be much closer to actual "game shape" when he comes back. But even if he is not, that doesn't mean he won't be a contributor by late season........IF he has the drive and motivation I think he will have.

[muskieindent]

i think that baylor has a fine team and that they deserve all the accolades. Guess what bitches? You get to come to the lovely confines of the cintas center next year. I expect they will get a warm reception.

I love the series and would be all up to renew it. Love to play baylor every year. I love our fearless schedule. No problem with me letting them expose some of our flaws early on. Would like to know what those flaws are in november or december so we can work on them. Better than being shocked into action later in the season.

I have said it before. Myles is my favorite player. I can't wait to get him back. This team cannot compete at the highest level without ole man myles. I have been waiting for his senior year as long as he has, for four years. I want the future to start right now. Can't wait to get him back.

We have talent but we are not a team. We have stats but stats aren't enough. We need to come together as a team.

Our inside game needs developing. Can myles help that, i think so. I like when we when inside out in the past. Perhaps that wont be the option it was, but we need to do more on offense that pass the ball on the perimeter. People that thought that the departure of jalen reynolds was addition by subtraction had a serious math error. That young man would have raged on this team. We have too many men that go to the pros to early. They would be better off if they stayed right here. I digress.

I love this team. We will have more losses. Tough job coming up right now against colorado. It would be a great win for us, or a great learning experience if we lose. I am upbeat about the muskies. I thought we were overrated for sure. That pissed off some of my friends. I can see us as a top 10 team late in the year. I can see us winning the big east. We just aren't there yet.

And we need one myles davis, my favorite muskie.

We have two players nominated for the highest honor in college hoops, but in my opinion, our best player, my favorite player, the straw that stirs the drink, had yet to play once second.

Free myles davis!!

Give me myles davis, or give me death!!
that was you with the signs last week!

[bobbiemcgee]

Pierre was re-instated by UD end of this week last year.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Today is the last day of the 1st semester.

[OTRMUSKIE]

So will he be back for east wash? What's the word on the street?

[LA Muskie]

So will he be back for east wash? What's the word on the street?

No.


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[bleedXblue]

The waiting game continues.......bizarre

[X-band '01]

I guess this is the new Myles Davis status update thread? Anyway, here we go:

"‏@FOX19Jeremy For #Xavier fans, I'm told Myles Davis will return sometime at the beginning of conference play. End December, early January."

Quoted because OTRMuskie forgot this tweet.

[Cheesehead]

It will sometime in January.

[mistabeecee41]

8 tweets, and still no real answer - but it sounds like we won't be given much of a heads up (neither will the opposing coaches).

https://twitter.com/slrussell

[spursy]

8 tweets, and still no real answer - but it sounds like we won't be given much of a heads up (neither will the opposing coaches).

https://twitter.com/slrussell

That's a good enough answer for me. Sounds like it will be very soon. Shannon has been the ONLY person reporting real details about the Davis timeline and all she has had to do is keep asking Mack questions. And her twitter feed is free.

[ChicagoX]

This has got to be one of the strangest athletic suspensions that I can ever remember in terms of the secretive nature regarding the length of the suspension. Why is it so hard for XU to just come out and say that Myles is suspended until the end of the first semester or start of the second? Very bizarre from beginning to end. I can't ever recall a suspension being handled in this manner.

[SemajParlor]

This has got to be one of the strangest athletic suspensions that I can ever remember in terms of the secretive nature regarding the length of the suspension. Why is it so hard for XU to just come out and say that Myles is suspended until the end of the first semester or start of the second? Very bizarre from beginning to end. I can't ever recall a suspension being handled in this manner.

I have very similar thoughts. I love Mack and can't say enough about the job he has done. I personally don't believe XU did a great job at handling this situation. If he wants to use that as ammo to contribute to his continuing condescending 2016 tour, so be it. It's a pretty fair and legitimate question to be asking. The whole thing is bizarre.

[xufan2434]

8 tweets, and still no real answer - but it sounds like we won't be given much of a heads up (neither will the opposing coaches).

https://twitter.com/slrussell

Was waiting for someone else to post those lol. I actually like his answers a lot. Thought he was pretty clear and it's actually very settling to know they have a real plan in place. Not that I thought they didn't, was just frustrating for them not saying that they did. Myles is a top 4 player on this team, it's their advantage not letting others know when he's coming back.

Although that only lasts 1 game. So I think they're working it up more than it needs to be. My guess based off what he said is the Providence game. Don't think you can say pretty soon, and then it mean more than 9 days from now.

[birdman71]

Perhaps he hasn't yet registered. If not, I wouldn't say anything yet either if I was CM.
But, I have heard that he will be back for Providence.

[MuskieXU]

Was waiting for someone else to post those lol. I actually like his answers a lot. Thought he was pretty clear and it's actually very settling to know they have a real plan in place. Not that I thought they didn't, was just frustrating for them not saying that they did. Myles is a top 4 player on this team, it's their advantage not letting others know when he's coming back.

Although that only lasts 1 game. So I think they're working it up more than it needs to be. My guess based off what he said is the Providence game. Don't think you can say pretty soon, and then it mean more than 9 days from now.

Yeah Providence is my guess as well, but that's obviously just my own speculation. I know its frustrating for him to be so secretive, but from his perspective he has nothing to gain from giving a specific date. My guess is they probably told Myles if you do everything right you can come back for conference play. Hopefully he has done everything right,but for a coach, its much easier to say "I'm not telling" then to give a date, have Myles do something wrong, then to have to explain why the date was moved back. All in all, just looking forward to this whole ordeal being over.

[birdman71]

Today is the last day of the 1st semester.

And the first day of the rest of your life :wink:

[bobbiemcgee]

And the first day of the rest of your life :wink:


Myles is BACK - well, almost:

http://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/xavier-coach-chris-mack-says-he-knows-when-myles-davis-will-return-but-he-isnt-saying

[bleedXblue]

Hey coach, can you help a brother out?

This is killing me.......

[bobbiemcgee]

Just a guess, but think he will announce on his Radio show 12/22......

[XUFan09]

Just a guess, but think he will announce on his Radio show 12/22......
I don't know why he would. Mack likes to keep opponents guessing when he can. He might announce if Myles is practicing again, but I doubt he'll say when he is actually going to be in a game. Myles will just check in at a substitution without warning.

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[X-band '01]

Or maybe practice at an undisclosed location with Myles?

[bobbiemcgee]

Myles will just check in at a substitution without warning

yeah, he'll drop into the middle of the floor in a giant cellphone balloon from the rafters at the 'Tas.

[Masterofreality]

Soon.......and very soon......

[X-band '01]

Soon.......and very soon......

We are going to see the King!

[xu82]

Soon.......and very soon......

Soon.....such a relative term....

[XMuskieFTW]

Soon as in I had ten beers and I'm going to need to use the bathroom soon or soon as in Paul Scruggs is going to commit soon?

[xu82]

Soon as in I had ten beers and I'm going to need to use the bathroom soon or soon as in Paul Scruggs is going to commit soon?

Oh Lord, glad your bladder didn't have to hold out till Scruggs came through! Even ten beers might have needed a half way break.....

[vee4xu]

My sources tell me, as soon as he finishes 10 Hail Mary's, 10 Our Father's and a sincere Act of Contrition, he'll be ready to go. Though, I am rather morbidly intrigued to see exactly what happens to Snipe if Myles doesn't return.

[xu82]

My sources tell me, as soon as he finishes 10 Hail Mary's, 10 Our Father's and a sincere Act of Contrition, he'll be ready to go. Though, I am rather morbidly intrigued to see exactly what happens to Snipe if Myles doesn't return.

...and 10,000 suicides to get in shape, and some extra prayers for Snipe.

[bleedXblue]

Soon as in I had ten beers and I'm going to need to use the bathroom soon or soon as in Paul Scruggs is going to commit soon?

I don't get the Scruggs reference..........

[xu82]

I don't get the Scruggs reference..........

Scruggs waited FOREVER to commit. It was widely assumed he was coming, but the commit was late in coming. Great get, so that's fine.

[XMuskieFTW]

Yea seemed like it was pretty much Xavier way out ahead of everyone for Scruggs for about 2 months and no one could figure out the wait so many people started coming up with theories why he wouldn't be coming to Xavier. Kind of similar to the "Myles may not come back because they're afraid he could mess up chemistry" theories.

[XfansinKy]

yeah, he'll drop into the middle of the floor in a giant cellphone balloon from the rafters at the 'Tas.
He immediately sinks two clutch free throws. Afterwards Xavier fans argue on Xavierhoops about whether he looked out of shape or not.

[XUFan09]

Yea seemed like it was pretty much Xavier way out ahead of everyone for Scruggs for about 2 months and no one could figure out the wait so many people started coming up with theories why he wouldn't be coming to Xavier. Kind of similar to the "Myles may not come back because they're afraid he could mess up chemistry" theories.
Yup. From Scruggs' perspective, I'm sure he was aware that he was the only point guard Xavier was really recruiting (Naji Marshall could serve as a backup PG, so there wasn't much concern). What's the harm in taking his time, adjusting to a new high school first, and getting around to commitment when he really feels good about it? A lot of hand-wringing among Xavier fans, apparently.

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[X-man]

I heard today from a (possibly) reliable source that Myles will be suited up Wednesday night. Let's hope my source knows what he is talking about.

[bobbiemcgee]

That would be a nice Christmas present.

[XUGRAD80]

That would be a nice Christmas present.

It would be better than "nice"...it would be GREAT!

[XUMIOH12]

look like Myles is back in Cincinnati. Should be playing against Providence.

[D-West & PO-Z]

yeah buddy!

[xu82]

look like Myles is back in Cincinnati. Should be playing against Providence.

I'll say this more than once, but I'll be there! My game of the year, and hopefully a celebration.

[XUFan09]

I'll say this more than once, but I'll be there! My game of the year, and hopefully a celebration.
I'll be there too! First game at Cintas since the inaugural Big East game versus St. John's. I've driven up for a couple Georgetown games but have been hard-pressed to make other games since the move to the Big East.

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[xu82]

I'll be there too! First game at Cintas since the inaugural Big East game versus St. John's. I've driven up for a couple Georgetown games but have been hard-pressed to make other games since the move to the Big East.

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Cool, maybe we can meet up at Dana's or the game (note how I said Dana's first!). People who are fine on-line you can learn to hate in person. (OK, mostly kidding.)

[Masterofreality]

This on Twitter:

@rodhinton Bumped into @_mdavis15 at the movie theater last night. It was my early Christmas present just seeing him back in Cincinnati.

Followed by this:
@_mdavis15 Before it gets too late I want to say Merry Christmas to everyone especially to my family. Wish I could be with them. Everyone enjoy yours!

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee's Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!!!!!!!

[nuts4xu]

This on Twitter:

@rodhinton Bumped into @_mdavis15 at the movie theater last night. It was my early Christmas present just seeing him back in Cincinnati.

Followed by this:
@_mdavis15 Before it gets too late I want to say Merry Christmas to everyone especially to my family. Wish I could be with them. Everyone enjoy yours!

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee's Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!!!!!!!

This is tits...ain't nothing better than tits!

[xuwin]

I seriously doubt that he will get in a game this soon unless it's a blowout one way or the other. It will be great to have him back to practice though.

[xavierj]

I seriously doubt that he will get in a game this soon unless it's a blowout one way or the other. It will be great to have him back to practice though.

Why wouldn't he get in?

[XUFan09]

Why wouldn't he get in?
If he hasn't been practicing yet, do you think be would get into the game without a single practice?

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[xuwin]

Why wouldn't he get in?

Because it will take him a while to fit in with this group of players. He has never practiced with some of the new players and he will have to develop some chemistry with them. I'm sure he will have to earn his status on the team again.

[xuwin]

If he hasn't been practicing yet, do you think be would get into the game without a single practice?

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Exactly. It wouldn't be fair to the current bench players on the team that have been at practice since day 1.

[XMuskieFTW]

Xavier has practice tonight and likely Monday and Tuesday also. Could definitely see him getting 10 minutes after 3 days of practice.

[XUFan09]

Exactly. It wouldn't be fair to the current bench players on the team that have been at practice since day 1.
Yeah, I don't imagine there will be serious chemistry issues, but there's no need to create some by making a sudden exception to the "practice earns minutes" ethos put out by Mack. Maybe in a blowout, which would put him on the same level as walkons, but I bet Mack is telling him he's even behind the walkons until he shows otherwise.

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[STL_XUfan]

Exactly. It wouldn't be fair to the current bench players on the team that have been at practice since day 1.
Screw fairness, Mack will put out the lineup that gives us the best chance to win.

[XfansinKy]

I would think being a fifth year senior, who's worked hard and been a part of Xavier as long as he has would mean something.

[xeus]

Myles will not get back the form we need him to be in by riding the pine with the walk-ons. His suspension has been the punishment. When he is back in uniform, his punishment is over. Coach is not going to sit him just to make a point - a point which has presumably already been made given the length of his suspension. He is certainly not going to sit him just to be fair to younger, less experienced players

I'm pretty sure Myles' leadership and contributions over the course of his Xavier career count for something. I'm also pretty sure the guys on the team want to win, and are anxious for Myles to help them do that. If we have players on the team who feel they are being treated unfairly when a star senior guard returns and gets minutes, they are just going to have to suck it up.

Myles Davis has been to three consecutive NCAA tournaments, including a Sweet 16. He is 72 points shy of the 1000 pt club. He is a proven leader, knows Coach Mack's system as well as anyone, and while he may or may not be in top shape, he is going to play. The idea of him having to prove himself in practice, or being behind walk-ons in the depth chart, is ridiculous.

Look for Myles to get back into the rotation quickly, and hopefully get significant minutes asap!

[bleedXblue]

He will work Myles back in as he gets back up to speed and into game shape.

[muskienick]

Screw fairness, Mack will put out the lineup that gives us the best chance to win.

There is evidence to back STL_XUFAN's take on this situation. Coach Mack took Sean out of the starting lineup in favor of a player who had a whole year of dedication to the Muskie program more than Rashid. He did so because Rashid was obviously showing more production and leadership in practice than Sean. If Myles shows more production and leadership in practices leading up to meeting the Friars, then he will likely be slotted in for game minutes over those he has out-shined in the practices leading up to that game. It is a team sport. All the members of the team are in it together. The ones who contribute the most to the team's effort will get the most minutes of playing time.

Why shouldn't Myles get more playing time than others who are showing LESS than Myles during practice? Coach Mack has only one question to ask himself when considering who should be on the floor for Xavier: Which eligible players from among all those available should start and which others should be quickly off the bench such that little or no quality is lost while the starters rest?

[XfansinKy]

When Myles has fresh legs he is as good a long range shooter as anybody in the nation. I'm hoping because he's missed the first part of the season that his legs are strong all season. Hopefully he's been working out and doing plenty of calf raises and leg presses. I believe him and Kaiser playing the way they can is what gives X a shot at a final 4 run.

[Olsingledigit]

Screw fairness, Mack will put out the lineup that gives us the best chance to win.

Spot on. It's all about winning and any coach at this level who doesn't get it will have a shortened career.

[XfansinKy]

Spot on. It's all about winning and any coach at this level who doesn't get it will have a shortened career.

Yep

[Harryfe]

My guess is he will come in at 8 min mark or shortly thereafter. There certainly will be a thunderous applause. ( maybe not from his ex gf)

[XUFan09]

There is evidence to back STL_XUFAN's take on this situation. Coach Mack took Sean out of the starting lineup in favor of a player who had a whole year of dedication to the Muskie program more than Rashid. He did so because Rashid was obviously showing more production and leadership in practice than Sean. If Myles shows more production and leadership in practices leading up to meeting the Friars, then he will likely be slotted in for game minutes over those he has out-shined in the practices leading up to that game. It is a team sport. All the members of the team are in it together. The ones who contribute the most to the team's effort will get the most minutes of playing time.

Why shouldn't Myles get more playing time than others who are showing LESS than Myles during practice? Coach Mack has only one question to ask himself when considering who should be on the floor for Xavier: Which eligible players from among all those available should start and which others should be quickly off the bench such that little or no quality is lost while the starters rest?
Are there multiple practices before the Providence game? That would probably decide it.

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[Olsingledigit]

My guess is he will come in at 8 min mark or shortly thereafter. There certainly will be a thunderous applause. ( maybe not from his ex gf)
Well put. I will be one of the applauders and I am sure you will be too. I suggest he will be in earlier however. Guess we will see.

[XUGRAD80]

If they practiced today, then I'm going to bet there are two practices scheduled for both Monday and Tuesday, followed by a walk thru and shoot around Wednesday morning/afternoon. Myles will get some time on the floor if he earns it in those practices. How much will be determined by how effective he is and how easily he gets tired, not by any sense of wanting to be "fair" to Goodin, or any other player.

[XUFan09]

If they practiced today, then I'm going to bet there are two practices scheduled for both Monday and Tuesday, followed by a walk thru and shoot around Wednesday morning/afternoon. Myles will get some time on the floor if he earns it in those practices. How much will be determined by how effective he is and how easily he gets tired, not by any sense of wanting to be "fair" to Goodin, or any other player.
Yep.

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[TUclutch]

Id bet money we will not see MD back for another few games. Just because he is back in town does not mean hes back with the team yet. Ive heard from several people he can't play until the official first day of the semester which is January 9th. Not sure why some of you jumped to conclusions so quickly that he's going to be playing so soon just based off a tweet that he is back in town. I feel about 95% safe in saying MD will not be back before the Villanova game

[XUGRAD80]

If he is eligible, and has been resinstated on the team, there is no reason to believe he won't play. Don't know enough about team, school, conference, and NCAA rules regarding his eligibility status to say what that status is.

When was the last time X had a player that was not eligible until the 2nd semester of a year? I seem to remember an interior player that became eligible 2nd semester 10-15 years ago, but can't remember his name or exactly how that was handled.

[STL_XUfan]

If he is eligible, and has been resinstated on the team, there is no reason to believe he won't play. Don't know enough about team, school, conference, and NCAA rules regarding his eligibility status to say what that status is.

When was the last time X had a player that was not eligible until the 2nd semester of a year? I seem to remember an interior player that became eligible 2nd semester 10-15 years ago, but can't remember his name or exactly how that was handled.

Adam Simons and he became eligible at the end of the first semester. I want to say it was right before a trip to Omaha that resulted in Miller saying we would never play in Omaha again.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Myles will not get back the form we need him to be in by riding the pine with the walk-ons. His suspension has been the punishment. When he is back in uniform, his punishment is over. Coach is not going to sit him just to make a point - a point which has presumably already been made given the length of his suspension. He is certainly not going to sit him just to be fair to younger, less experienced players

I'm pretty sure Myles' leadership and contributions over the course of his Xavier career count for something. I'm also pretty sure the guys on the team want to win, and are anxious for Myles to help them do that. If we have players on the team who feel they are being treated unfairly when a star senior guard returns and gets minutes, they are just going to have to suck it up.

Myles Davis has been to three consecutive NCAA tournaments, including a Sweet 16. He is 72 points shy of the 1000 pt club. He is a proven leader, knows Coach Mack's system as well as anyone, and while he may or may not be in top shape, he is going to play. The idea of him having to prove himself in practice, or being behind walk-ons in the depth chart, is ridiculous.

Look for Myles to get back into the rotation quickly, and hopefully get significant minutes asap!

Yes this.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Id bet money we will not see MD back for another few games. Just because he is back in town does not mean hes back with the team yet. Ive heard from several people he can't play until the official first day of the semester which is January 9th. Not sure why some of you jumped to conclusions so quickly that he's going to be playing so soon just based off a tweet that he is back in town. I feel about 95% safe in saying MD will not be back before the Villanova game

Yeah could be. Why come back over 2 weeks early then? Especially back and not spending time with family for Christmas. That would seem odd to me and point to him possibly being back with the team.

[muskienick]

Are there multiple practices before the Providence game? That would probably decide it.

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The guys had to be back on Christmas evening. So that would assume a minimum of three extensive practice sessions and a Wednesday "walk-through."

[SM#24]

Screw fairness, Mack will put out the lineup that gives us the best chance to win.
Isn't this a version of "fairness" ?

I usually find when people use the phrase "it's not fair" it's when they want something they don't deserve or haven't earned.

[XUFan09]

The guys had to be back on Christmas evening. So that would assume a minimum of three extensive practice sessions and a Wednesday "walk-through."
I lost track of how many practice opportunities there might be before Providence. That's probably enough practices to earn game time.

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[TUclutch]

Yeah could be. Why come back over 2 weeks early then? Especially back and not spending time with family for Christmas. That would seem odd to me and point to him possibly being back with the team.

Shannon tweeted he is not at practice. So that should end all the speculation of him being back with the team. Like I said, im almost 100% confident he won't be back for a few games.

[Juice]

Shannon Russell ‏@slrussell 58m58 minutes ago
Chris Mack, asked if Myles Davis would play v. Providence via the Big East teleconference: "He won’t be playing tomorrow night." #Xavier

[THRILLHOUSE]

@FOX19Joe Chris Mack asked about a Myles Davis time table : "Next question." Then said, "when he's back, he'll be back and...that's it."

[Muskie]

Well that sounds definitive on Wed night.


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[xufan2434]

I can't help but picture the Jameis Winston situation a couple years ago when he came running out of the tunnel in full pads to warm up when he was suspended lol

Not to compare the two legally, but Myles comes back to Cincy. Gets announced he's not playing yet. Tweets another one about not getting what you want. Deletes Twitter. Mack sounds pissed like annoyed parent.

[TUclutch]

I can't help but picture the Jameis Winston situation a couple years ago when he came running out of the tunnel in full pads to warm up when he was suspended lol

Not to compare the two legally, but Myles comes back to Cincy. Gets announced he's not playing yet. Tweets another one about not getting what you want. Deletes Twitter. Mack sounds pissed like annoyed parent.

Well yea, Mack has said multiple times that he wasn't going to answer any more questions about the situation or tell anyone when Myles would be back, yet the brilliant media asks every time they get a microphone in front of him. Doesn't help the situation that everyone reads into every single tweet that Myles sends out as if he's back and is he going to be playing Wednesday. My suggestion is for everyone to stop trying to analyze everything and have the mindset that MD will no be playing. Then when/if he finally does, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Edit: Shannon just tweeted:
1. For the second time today, Chris Mack was asked about the Myles Davis situation. This time it was at the pre-game presser at Cintas Center.
2. Asked if there was a timetable for Davis' return, Mack said "next question." Pressed further, he said this:
3. Mack: "I don’t mean to be dismissive but I’ve answered this over & over & over & over. So you can rewind whatever statements I said..."
4. "...the last time. When he’s back, he’ll be back. And that’s it." /end

I wouldn't have blamed him if he ended it there and walked away for practice without even answering the question.

[xufan2434]

Well yea, Mack has said multiple times that he wasn't going to answer any more questions about the situation or tell anyone when Myles would be back, yet the brilliant media asks every time they get a microphone in front of him. Doesn't help the situation that everyone reads into every single tweet that Myles sends out as if he's back and is he going to be playing Wednesday. My suggestion is for everyone to stop trying to analyze everything and have the mindset that MD will no be playing. Then when/if he finally does, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Edit: Shannon just tweeted:
1. For the second time today, Chris Mack was asked about the Myles Davis situation. This time it was at the pre-game presser at Cintas Center.
2. Asked if there was a timetable for Davis' return, Mack said "next question." Pressed further, he said this:
3. Mack: "I don’t mean to be dismissive but I’ve answered this over & over & over & over. So you can rewind whatever statements I said..."
4. "...the last time. When he’s back, he’ll be back. And that’s it." /end

I wouldn't have blamed him if he ended it there and walked away for practice without even answering the question.

Oh for sure.. I completely agree. He's made it pretty clear he won't be telling anyone when it is. And even explained why just last week I thought. I mean he's been getting asked about it since July, so I'm sure he's ready to explode every time it comes up.

On the flip side, when your senior leader and one of your most important players has been out all year and expected to return around this time right as conference play is kicking off, you have to expect it right?

[TUclutch]

I don't think you have to expect it at all. I think its fair to expect the media to stop asking after you've said multiple times you would not address it or tell anyone when he'd be back. But then again, i think most media nowadays in sports is terrible. You have a lot of self righteous reporters acting as if they owe it to the public to keep asking questions or as if they are the bridge between the player and fans. Years ago sure, but nowadays it really doesn't matter. We can get the info on twitter directly from the teams much quicker. Take the NFL for example. Sideline reporters used to be great for getting injury info. Now the team accounts tweet it before they even tell the reporters there. They add almost nothing.

[Juice]

I don't think you have to expect it at all. I think its fair to expect the media to stop asking after you've said multiple times you would not address it or tell anyone when he'd be back.

And then we'd have another group of people wondering why Shannon didn't ask. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's a fair question in light of Myles being back in town.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I wouldn't have blamed him if he ended it there and walked away for practice without even answering the question.

I would have. He gets paid 7 figures for a reason. One of his job responsibilities is to answer the media's questions. He can answer them however he likes and get upset but its still a job responsibility of his. To act all pissed that media continues to ask is just silly. Their readers are asking they have a responsibility to ask. Mack doesnt have to tell them anything and he can answer however he wants but that doesnt mean they shouldnt continue to ask.

[D-West & PO-Z]

And then we'd have another group of people wondering why Shannon didn't ask. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's a fair question in light of Myles being back in town.

Yes, this.

Seems silly to me for Mack to be so annoyed by it. It isnt the media's fault this situation is going on that is drawing attention away from just the games at hand. Myles fault mostly and imo Mack's to some extent as well. He may have a strategy for why he doesnt want to say, fine I get that, but it continues the mystery around the suspension and continues to generate questions, dont be mad when they are asked.

[bleedXblue]

Its really silly to think that you're going to catch a team in the Big East who isn't familiar with Myles and how to best prepare for him. They've been facing him for the last 3 years. IMHO, I think Mack is needlessly stringing this one out. Lets just get on with it......

[mid major]

Its really silly to think that you're going to catch a team in the Big East who isn't familiar with Myles and how to best prepare for him. They've been facing him for the last 3 years. IMHO, I think Mack is needlessly stringing this one out. Lets just get on with it......

Kind of reminds me of the days Gillen would have closed doors practices at the Fieldhouse.

[xufan2434]

Kind of reminds me of the days Gillen would have closed doors practices at the Fieldhouse.

That's actually something interesting to me, because I was thinking about it yesterday. Does anyone more informed than me know how many of their practices now are open to media? I know Shannon and Rick go a decent amount I believe. For example, Shannon tweeted yesterday that Myles wasn't there. If Mack is going to keep it a secret, do the practices go closed when he's back? Or does Mack just look at them and say "Hey, we've had a pretty good mutual relationship, let's keep this quiet" sorta thing

[X-band '01]

Or does Mack just look at them and say "Hey, we've had a pretty good mutual relationship, let's keep this quiet" sorta thing

Followed by a conversation with Myles saying "You can protect your Twitter all you want, but you know the goobers at XavierHoops.com are following your every step, right? If we're going to keep this quiet, you gotta work with me here."

[xufan2434]

Followed by a conversation with Myles saying "You can protect your Twitter all you want, but you know the goobers at XavierHoops.com are following your every step, right? If we're going to keep this quiet, you gotta work with me here."

Haha very true.. I'm just saying if Shannon is going to tweet it, with her credentials, everyone in the league is going to see it

[mirabilelectu]

Its really silly to think that you're going to catch a team in the Big East who isn't familiar with Myles and how to best prepare for him. They've been facing him for the last 3 years. IMHO, I think Mack is needlessly stringing this one out. Lets just get on with it......

When Mack issued the quote about keeping our opponents in the dark I remarked that there's no way that could be the real reason for withholding his return date. Even if you could keep his return to practice off of twitter, you'd only surprise one team. This tactic is a little bit more effective in other sports, but it would afford X little to no advantage.

[The Coz]

I just saw Myles in the cafeteria. He was having lunch with Johnny Wolf. Said he might head out later to Fuddrucker's since Romain Sato is in town.

[The Coz]

I heard today from a (possibly) reliable source that Myles will be suited up Wednesday night. Let's hope my source knows what he is talking about.

Your source is worthless.

[The Coz]

I have very similar thoughts. I love Mack and can't say enough about the job he has done. I personally don't believe XU did a great job at handling this situation. If he wants to use that as ammo to contribute to his continuing condescending 2016 tour, so be it. It's a pretty fair and legitimate question to be asking. The whole thing is bizarre.

Mack has a Condescending Tour 2016? Is LA Muskie the presenting sponsor?

[The Coz]

The way things are going Snipe must be in the intensive care unit. That's apropos since most of his posts are indicative of I.C.U. psychosis.

[XfansinKy]

Buy her a cell phone, fix the dent, and play ball.

[LA Muskie]

Well yea, Mack has said multiple times that he wasn't going to answer any more questions about the situation or tell anyone when Myles would be back, yet the brilliant media asks every time they get a microphone in front of him. Doesn't help the situation that everyone reads into every single tweet that Myles sends out as if he's back and is he going to be playing Wednesday. My suggestion is for everyone to stop trying to analyze everything and have the mindset that MD will no be playing. Then when/if he finally does, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Edit: Shannon just tweeted:
1. For the second time today, Chris Mack was asked about the Myles Davis situation. This time it was at the pre-game presser at Cintas Center.
2. Asked if there was a timetable for Davis' return, Mack said "next question." Pressed further, he said this:
3. Mack: "I don’t mean to be dismissive but I’ve answered this over & over & over & over. So you can rewind whatever statements I said..."
4. "...the last time. When he’s back, he’ll be back. And that’s it." /end

I wouldn't have blamed him if he ended it there and walked away for practice without even answering the question.

What do you expect the media to do? It's their job to ask the questions. Mack of course is at liberty to not comment.


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[LA Muskie]

I don't think you have to expect it at all. I think its fair to expect the media to stop asking after you've said multiple times you would not address it or tell anyone when he'd be back. But then again, i think most media nowadays in sports is terrible. You have a lot of self righteous reporters acting as if they owe it to the public to keep asking questions or as if they are the bridge between the player and fans. Years ago sure, but nowadays it really doesn't matter. We can get the info on twitter directly from the teams much quicker. Take the NFL for example. Sideline reporters used to be great for getting injury info. Now the team accounts tweet it before they even tell the reporters there. They add almost nothing.

If the media stopped asking questions because their subjects asked them to, we'd have very little news.


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[LA Muskie]

That's actually something interesting to me, because I was thinking about it yesterday. Does anyone more informed than me know how many of their practices now are open to media? I know Shannon and Rick go a decent amount I believe. For example, Shannon tweeted yesterday that Myles wasn't there. If Mack is going to keep it a secret, do the practices go closed when he's back? Or does Mack just look at them and say "Hey, we've had a pretty good mutual relationship, let's keep this quiet" sorta thing

My understanding is that all our practices are open.


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[Emp]

Yes, this.

Seems silly to me for Mack to be so annoyed by it. It isnt the media's fault this situation is going on that is drawing attention away from just the games at hand. Myles fault mostly and imo Mack's to some extent as well. He may have a strategy for why he doesnt want to say, fine I get that, but it continues the mystery around the suspension and continues to generate questions, dont be mad when they are asked.


Its really silly to think that you're going to catch a team in the Big East who isn't familiar with Myles and how to best prepare for him. They've been facing him for the last 3 years. IMHO, I think Mack is needlessly stringing this one out. Lets just get on with it......


That's actually something interesting to me, because I was thinking about it yesterday. Does anyone more informed than me know how many of their practices now are open to media? I know Shannon and Rick go a decent amount I believe. For example, Shannon tweeted yesterday that Myles wasn't there. If Mack is going to keep it a secret, do the practices go closed when he's back? Or does Mack just look at them and say "Hey, we've had a pretty good mutual relationship, let's keep this quiet" sorta thing

Isn't it possible that Mack isn't in control of the situation?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Isn't it possible that Mack isn't in control of the situation?

I guess. I dont think its likely he doesnt know the time frame though. Perfectly fine not to divulge that info but dont get all bent out of shape when the media asks, especially when new developments are occurring like Myles being back on campus.

[TUclutch]

And then we'd have another group of people wondering why Shannon didn't ask. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's a fair question in light of Myles being back in town.

Lmao, no it isn't especially when he was already asked and gave the same answer earlier in the day. He has said multiple times he wasn't going to comment about when he would be back to playing in addition to his first answer when this happened that when/if there was a change worth addressing, he would tell everyone. To continue asking is a little ridiculous. It's clear no matter how much they ask, he isn't going to answer

[TUclutch]

I guess. I dont think its likely he doesnt know the time frame though. Perfectly fine not to divulge that info but dont get all bent out of shape when the media asks, especially when new developments are occurring like Myles being back on campus.

Do we even know he is back on campus? Just because he tweeted he wasn't with family doesn't mean hes back on campus or even in the city. Safe assumption sure, but it was a little absurd for people to take that tweet and jump to him being able to play wednesday etc.

[TUclutch]

If the media stopped asking questions because their subjects asked them to, we'd have very little news.


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They don't have to stop asking all questions, but he's been pretty adamant that he would not answer that question. Why keep asking. He isn't going to answer it

[TUclutch]

Buy her a cell phone, fix the dent, and play ball.

They first two were taken care of a while ago. Listen, Im as big a xavier fan as anyone(my entire life), but he deserved the suspension for what he did

[Juice]

Lmao, no it isn't especially when he was already asked and gave the same answer earlier in the day. He has said multiple times he wasn't going to comment about when he would be back to playing in addition to his first answer when this happened that when/if there was a change worth addressing, he would tell everyone. To continue asking is a little ridiculous. It's clear no matter how much they ask, he isn't going to answer

The reporters are doing their job and I guess Mack is too. The question and answer "wasted" a total of about 30 seconds of everyone's lives. It doesn't really matter.

[Xville]

Mack could also be sick of the questions, because he is frustrated with Myles and doesnt know when he will be back. If Mack doesnt have a timeline, it may be because myles still isnt doing what he is supposed to be doing. I hate being speculative when it comes to this situation, but myles has kind of lost the benefit of the doubt for quite a while.

For those saying, lets just get on with it, give me a break. Myles made the same mistake numerous times and is quite lucky to even be given the chance to rejoin the team.

[mid major]

Isn't it possible that Mack isn't in control of the situation?

You mean like when Tu and Lyons were allowed to go speak to the press after the Crosstown Shootout fight which ended the game. I can't recall who was in control then.

[XUMIOH12]

Buy her a cell phone, fix the dent, and play ball.

why this wasn't the scenario from the get-go is baffling. And at this point i think it's probably Davis' fault for that not being the case.

[XUMIOH12]

The reporters are doing their job and I guess Mack is too. The question and answer "wasted" a total of about 30 seconds of everyone's lives. It doesn't really matter.

yeah who gives a shit. It is the media's job to ask questions about that type of stuff, they aren't going to stop. Mack can respond however he wants, it really doesn't matter.

[XUMIOH12]

Mack could also be sick of the questions, because he is frustrated with Myles and doesnt know when he will be back. If Mack doesnt have a timeline, it may be because myles still isnt doing what he is supposed to be doing. I hate being speculative when it comes to this situation, but myles has kind of lost the benefit of the doubt for quite a while.

For those saying, lets just get on with it, give me a break. Myles made the same mistake numerous times and is quite lucky to even be given the chance to rejoin the team.

i feel like there has to be something there. At this point, it seems like Mack is the one still keeping him out of play.
Regardless, we played the first 12 games without him, we should still be able to win the next 3 (minimum 2) games without him as well.

[XfansinKy]

why this wasn't the scenario from the get-go is baffling. And at this point i think it's probably Davis' fault for that not being the case.

A few more games into the conference season and his senior year is nearly a wash barring some miraculous "Jimmy Chitwood Hoosiers moment" for him. I'm not saying its cool to do what he did at all and it sounds like terroristic threatening, which he could have diverted if he stays out of trouble. I'm guessing there. I mean if a court of law has ruled and he's been/being punished, WTF is the issue? He obviously was excited and thought he could get on with his life by tweeting, "Heeeeee's baaaaaaaack". You can be as slow as me to know damn well what that meant. At this point, this has become a big cluster f**K. I think maybe coach Mack is waiting on a final answer from the AD on reinstating Myles, and maybe that's why he's growing frustrated too. Is that possible?

[XfansinKy]

They first two were taken care of a while ago. Listen, Im as big a xavier fan as anyone(my entire life), but he deserved the suspension for what he did

I agree. An X player can't do that to a female and expect to get away with it. He's been suspended now though and I believe him and coach Mack don't know much more about when he's returning than we do. Coach doesn't want to talk about it but said not long ago, "He's really, really close" when asked about Myles returning. Myles tweets he's back not long after coach Mack says that, but now he's not even practicing. How much more screwed up can this get?

[XUGRAD80]

For those saying, lets just get on with it, give me a break. Myles made the same mistake numerous times and is quite lucky to even be given the chance to rejoin the team.

A football player punches a girl and gets suspended for a year.....Myles breaks a couple of cell phones, dents a car, and loses half (or more) of his senior year.

Just a little perspective on his being "lucky".

[Xville]

A football player punches a girl and gets suspended for a year.....Myles breaks a couple of cell phones, dents a car, and loses half (or more) of his senior year.

Just a little perspective on his being "lucky".

I really dont care what oklahoma and the despicable bob stoops decided to do. Myles made the same mistake with this girl numerous times and apparently after grtting into his trouble, made another mistake (rumor). Regardless, being that it is xavier and not oklahoma football, he is extremely lucky.

[Juice]

A football player punches a girl and gets suspended for a year.....Myles breaks a couple of cell phones, dents a car, and loses half (or more) of his senior year.

Just a little perspective on his being "lucky".

But it's been addressed several times that there is a difference between what Myles likely did and what he was charged with.

[mistabeecee41]

Myles is a 23 year old man. You own up to your mistakes, you apologize, you don't do it again, and you keep things to yourself.

It seems as if Myles has done none of these things. He's deactivated his Twitter account about 14 times now after tweeting shit he shouldn't have. I'm a 30 year old man with no connection to any of this outside of the internet, but it almost feels like he thinks he's the victim.

[American X]

This seems like Mack is not telling us absolutely everything:


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[Xville]

Myles is a 23 year old man. You own up to your mistakes, you apologize, you don't do it again, and you keep things to yourself.

It seems as if Myles has done none of these things. He's deactivated his Twitter account about 14 times now after tweeting shit he shouldn't have. I'm a 30 year old man with no connection to any of this outside of the internet, but it almost feels like he thinks he's the victim.

Agreed and honestly at this point, and Ill probably get blasted for this but whatever, I don't care if he comes back or not. I don't know him personally, but he seems extremely immature, and I'm not sure if he has learned his lesson. He isn't an 18 year old kid anymore, grow up.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm confused, did he not go to court and admit mistakes and get a punishment that he is fulfilling? Why do you think he hasnt apologized and admitted mistakes? I seem to remember (could be wrong) reading he specifically apologized to his ex and her family in court.

Did he recently tweet something he shouldnt have or something?

[Xville]

I'm confused, did he not go to court and admit mistakes and get a punishment that he is fulfilling? Why do you think he hasnt apologized and admitted mistakes? I seem to remember (could be wrong) reading he specifically apologized to his ex and her family in court.

Did he recently tweet something he shouldnt have or something?

All I know is that Mack said himself that playing basketball at Xavier is a privilege and Xavier has high expectations for how the student athletes represent Xavier, and that unless Myles meets those expectations he will not be a part of the team.

Myles isn't a part of the team currently, so he must not be doing something to keep him from being a part of the team. I mean who cares if he apologized to his ex and her family in court.. of course he did, he wanted the lightest punishment he could get.

Maybe its the simple fact that he can't join the team until second semester, but id think if it was that, Mack would have said so. To me, it seems that Mack is just as frustrated with Myles as he is the media...could be wrong, but just reading between the lines it sure seems that way.

[markchal]

I do think the lack of information around this is really bizarre. Why is Mack not announcing when he'll be back? Any other time a player has had issues that cause them to miss some time (didn't Reynolds miss a few games early in his career for something?), it's announced that it's an X-game suspension, or a first-semester thing, etc.

It's pretty standard to communicate that stuff. So when Mack says "he's really close" and "Only I know when he's back, but until then, he's not back" it seems intentionally vague and misleading. We've had to piece a lot of things together ourselves (can't start until jan 9/next semester thing, etc.). It doesn't quite add up why this is handled differently.

Also, just reading from the published reports, it doesn't add up that this is severe enough to wipe out more than half of his senior season. There has to be a lot more to it than has been published, but I still don't think Mack has handled it well.

[D-West & PO-Z]

All I know is that Mack said himself that playing basketball at Xavier is a privilege and Xavier has high expectations for how the student athletes represent Xavier, and that unless Myles meets those expectations he will not be a part of the team.

Myles isn't a part of the team currently, so he must not be doing something to keep him from being a part of the team. I mean who cares if he apologized to his ex and her family in court.. of course he did, he wanted the lightest punishment he could get.

Maybe its the simple fact that he can't join the team until second semester, but id think if it was that, Mack would have said so. To me, it seems that Mack is just as frustrated with Myles as he is the media...could be wrong, but just reading between the lines it sure seems that way.

All I was replying to was mistabee saying, and you agreeing, that Myles is 23 and hasnt seemed to admit his mistakes and apologize. I was confused why someone would say that when he has done those things. I'm not relating that to mean anything else with being back on the team or not or any other terms he had to be back on team. I'm just not sure how someone can say he hasnt apologized and admitted mistakes unless they have some other info to provide.

[markchal]

I'm just not sure how someone can say he hasnt apologized and admitted mistakes unless they have some other info to provide.

I think it's all conjecture. There's a lot of that surrounding this because there's so little real information. Look at how closely some people are parsing through his tweets, trying to take any hint they can from that. Plenty of people on this board thought it was a foregone conclusion he'd back tonight (with a slight majority favoring the jan 9 date), and it appears it wasn't ever in the cards.

[mistabeecee41]

All I was replying to was mistabee saying, and you agreeing, that Myles is 23 and hasnt seemed to admit his mistakes and apologize. I was confused why someone would say that when he has done those things. I'm not relating that to mean anything else with being back on the team or not or any other terms he had to be back on team. I'm just not sure how someone can say he hasnt apologized and admitted mistakes unless they have some other info to provide.

My point was - as an adult, he shouldn't be using social media to complain about things that are caused by a monumental fuck up on his end. It wasn't the first instance either. My opinion, somebody who truly feels remorse for something they have done wouldn't have said the things he has said.

Finally, of course he apologized in court. What else would he do?

[XUGRAD80]

NONE of us know the whole story, or probably ever will, so ALL of this is pure speculation. I totally agree that participation in intercollegiate athletics is a privilege and an honor, and not a "right". However if it is a privilege and and an honor than it is something that is earned and not just given. An opportunity might be given, but what becomes of that opportunity is earned. Miles has to my mind "earned" his place in Xavier basketball history and has earned in my mind the benefit of the doubt. Let's start with the fact that he sat out his fresh,an Year and paid his own way for that year....just for the opportunity to be part of the team in the future. Over the next 3 years did we ever hear of any discipline or academic problems with him? Maybe others did, but I don't remember hearing about them. Was he a problem on the court or display bad sportsmanship? I don't remember that ever happening. So, unless there is something that he has yet to fulfill, or there is more to the story that we just don't know, I really can't understand how he has not "earned" the chance to get back on the court at this time. Hearing that he isn't even practicing yet is what has me very concerned. There have been many many players that have been "suspended" but are still either participating in full practice and just not playing in the games, or are at the very least participating in individual drills and conditioning. But I haven't heard any reports that he is even doing those things. I've always felt that a players personal life outside of team activities is just that...personal. And I have always tried to keep from discussing them either herein this forum, or on others. But his lack of participation in practice has me very mystified, to say the least. I certainly hope it is all cleared up very soon.

[D-West & PO-Z]

NONE of us know the whole story, or probably ever will, so ALL of this is pure speculation. I totally agree that participation in intercollegiate athletics is a privilege and an honor, and not a "right". However if it is a privilege and and an honor than it is something that is earned and not just given. An opportunity might be given, but what becomes of that opportunity is earned. Miles has to my mind "earned" his place in Xavier basketball history and has earned in my mind the benefit of the doubt. Let's start with the fact that he sat out his fresh,an Year and paid his own way for that year....just for the opportunity to be part of the team in the future. Over the next 3 years did we ever hear of any discipline or academic problems with him? Maybe others did, but I don't remember hearing about them. Was he a problem on the court or display bad sportsmanship? I don't remember that ever happening. So, unless there is something that he has yet to fulfill, or there is more to the story that we just don't know, I really can't understand how he has not "earned" the chance to get back on the court at this time. Hearing that he isn't even practicing yet is what has me very concerned. There have been many many players that have been "suspended" but are still either participating in full practice and just not playing in the games, or are at the very least participating in individual drills and conditioning. But I haven't heard any reports that he is even doing those things. I've always felt that a players personal life outside of team activities is just that...personal. And I have always tried to keep from discussing them either herein this forum, or on others. But his lack of participation in practice has me very mystified, to say the least. I certainly hope it is all cleared up very soon.

The lack of participation in practice could be an eligibility issue since he was not enrolled first semester, maybe cant practice until 2nd semester. If that isnt true I agree that is worrisome because there must be a lot going on we dont know about/Myles not fulfilling his responsibilities according to Mack and/or XU.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Myles reactivated his twitter account. So back to overanalyzing all of his vague tweets!

[OH.X.MI]

Some people and their high horses, Jesus Christ. He got in an argument with a girl and made some mistakes. He broke a phone, not her jaw. If people don't like him complaining on twitter how about ya'll be the adult and stop stalking a college student's social media posts.

[Xville]

Some people and their high horses, Jesus Christ. He got in an argument with a girl and made some mistakes. He broke a phone, not her jaw. If people don't like him complaining on twitter how about ya'll be the adult and stop stalking a college student's social media posts.

I'm sure you would be saying the same thing if this was a UC player right? He didn't just get into an argument and make some mistakes...how many times has an argument with a girl led you to having a protective order against you, or charges against you? Yeah, he didn't hit her but let's not act like this was just no big deal. If it was no big deal he wouldn't be indefinitely suspended.

[bleedXblue]

I'm sure you would be saying the same thing if this was a UC player right? He didn't just get into an argument and make some mistakes...how many times has an argument with a girl led you to having a protective order against you, or charges against you? Yeah, he didn't hit her but let's not act like this was just no big deal. If it was no big deal he wouldn't be indefinitely suspended.

AND........as many have stated, this may not be the whole story. Maybe he had a previous issue with her that Mack found out about or maybe an unrelated incident all together. Something tells me Myles ended up here b/c he was given multiple opportunities to make it right and didn't.

[XfansinKy]

Myles reactivated his twitter account. So back to overanalyzing all of his vague tweets!

Yes!!! I don't have twitter.

[MHettel]

What a colossal waste of time. I just wanted to see if he was playing tonight, and I have to wade through all this garbage.

[Masterofreality]

I don't think you have to expect it at all. I think its fair to expect the media to stop asking after you've said multiple times you would not address it or tell anyone when he'd be back. But then again, i think most media nowadays in sports is terrible. You have a lot of self righteous reporters acting as if they owe it to the public to keep asking questions or as if they are the bridge between the player and fans. Years ago sure, but nowadays it really doesn't matter. We can get the info on twitter directly from the teams much quicker. Take the NFL for example. Sideline reporters used to be great for getting injury info. Now the team accounts tweet it before they even tell the reporters there. They add almost nothing.

Sorry. You're a Head Coach of a Top 20 program. Everything won't always be sweetness & light with the media. Xavier is covered much softer than a lot of places. You are also getting paid lots of money to handle questions without getting irritated and it's the media's job to find out what they can.

The reporters are well within their rights to ask. CM has the right to holdback. Just don't act butt hurt that the questions keep coming.

[XfansinKy]

He's listed on the roster now.

[xuinmd]

I think he has been on the roster all season.

[Muskie1000]

Is that him behind the bench?

[TUclutch]

no it wasnt

[GreatWhiteNorth]

We don't need him for tonight.

[MauriceX]

Given everything in this thread, I feel it may be pertinent to remind everyone of the definition of indefinite...

Indefinite (adjective) - lasting for an unknown or unstated length of time; not clearly expressed or defined; vague.

Seems like everything so far has fit that definition pretty well.

[XUMIOH12]

I think he has been on the roster all season.

correct

[muskieindent]

His name has been on his locker all year too

[Snipe]

I support Coach Mack.

I can't wait for this to be over. I need me some Myles Davis.

[XUMIOH12]

I support Coach Mack.

I can't wait for this to be over. I need me some Myles Davis.

that is pretty obvious, considering the title of this thread you started haha.

[nasdadjr]

I'm sure you would be saying the same thing if this was a UC player right? He didn't just get into an argument and make some mistakes...how many times has an argument with a girl led you to having a protective order against you, or charges against you? Yeah, he didn't hit her but let's not act like this was just no big deal. If it was no big deal he wouldn't be indefinitely suspended.

In response to the last line... tell that to Dez Wells. Xavier has a bad track record here they deserve no credit when handling these type issues

[nasdadjr]

I have absolutely zero knowledge, contacts or info for what I'm going to say this is pure speculation but I believe if it was up to Mack he would have been back long ago. I believe Myles still being out is coming from over his head. Not encouraging given the track history at X. No way a guy does not put a hand on a woman and is suspended this long unless it's coming from the very top.

[Juice]

In response to the last line... tell that to Dez Wells. Xavier has a bad track record here they deserve no credit when handling these type issues

Xavier like pretty much all universities has no business in trying to "prosecute" and sentence incidents like these involving college students. No one has the training, knowledge, or experience on these boards to make these decisions correctly. Nor are their procedures fair to the accused. With the current climate on college campuses, I think most schools are just trying to avoid being labeled the next Baylor, which let its football team sexually abuse the female student body for a decent part of the last several years.

[XfansinKy]

He's definitely being punished for whatever else he must've done. His senior year is nearly a wash.

[LA Muskie]

In this situation in particular, you would all do well not to make assumptions about things you don't know.

As Myles himself is well aware, he is very lucky to be given this second chance. If it was anyone else, with any less of a track record, he probably would not have.

And despite fans' desire to have him back as soon as possible, the length of his suspension has been as expected/intended.


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[ammtd34]

He's definitely being punished for whatever else he must've done. His senior year is nearly a wash.

Except for likely being available for almost all of the league schedule and any postseason.

[Muskie]

I have absolutely zero knowledge, contacts or info for what I'm going to say this is pure speculation but I believe if it was up to Mack he would have been back long ago. I believe Myles still being out is coming from over his head. Not encouraging given the track history at X. No way a guy does not put a hand on a woman and is suspended this long unless it's coming from the very top.

People need to understand that all that went down with Dez and the other party is not all available to the public. Continuing to complain about the university for that is pointless. Xavier must do what is best for the whole university not just basketball. Neg rep me all you want.


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[X-band '01]

If Nasdad neg reps someone, is there enough room for one of his typical run on sentences?

[XUFan09]

In this situation in particular, you would all do well not to make assumptions about things you don't know.

As Myles himself is well aware, he is very lucky to be given this second chance. If it was anyone else, with any less of a track record, he probably would not have.

And despite fans' desire to have him back as soon as possible, the length of his suspension has been as expected/intended.


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Yeah, there is stuff that went on that no one posting here knows. Myles' screwups were multiple, but people are making judgments on the fairness of his suspension based off incomplete knowledge.

That's not to mention the people who are diminishing what HAS been reported of his actions because he did not actively hit her. If a guy violently breaks or damages his girlfriend's property multiple times in front of her, that is threatening and frankly scary for her, regardless of her own faults. Relationship violence is not binary; it's a spectrum. He might not be as bad as a physically abusive person, but that doesn't excuse him. It's not a simple case of financial compensation, even in the instance of what is reported.

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[muskiefan82]

This makes sense. Remember the times in your life when you got into trouble and HOW MUCH MORE trouble you would have been in if they knew EVERYTHING instead of just the little piece of it you got burned for.

[XUFan09]

This makes sense. Remember the times in your life when you got into trouble and HOW MUCH MORE trouble you would have been in if they knew EVERYTHING instead of just the little piece of it you got burned for.
Yup. The coaching staff knows more than what is on public record. What they know, I'm not sure, but keep in mind that his suspension didn't happen until after the initially reported incidents. He screwed up again.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

In this situation in particular, you would all do well not to make assumptions about things you don't know.

As Myles himself is well aware, he is very lucky to be given this second chance. If it was anyone else, with any less of a track record, he probably would not have.

And despite fans' desire to have him back as soon as possible, the length of his suspension has been as expected/intended.


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Not that I necessarily disagree with anything you said here but arent you making several assumptions yourself?

-Myles is well aware he is very lucky? How do you know he thinks that?
-Anyone else would not have been given second chance? How do you know that?
-The length of the suspension has been expected? How do you know that? How much longer will it be since you know what to expect?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yup. The coaching staff knows more than what is on public record. What they know, I'm not sure, but keep in mind that his suspension didn't happen until after the initially reported incidents. He screwed up again.

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Yeah that definitely makes sense. Lots we dont know. Need to trust the coaching staff is making the right decisions. I still dont think its ok for Mack to get snippy with the media for inquiring but I have no problem that he isnt divulging info he doesnt think should be divulged.

[Harryfe]

Yeah that definitely makes sense. Lots we dont know. Need to trust the coaching staff is making the right decisions. I still dont think its ok for Mack to get snippy with the media for inquiring but I have no problem that he isnt divulging info he doesnt think should be divulged.
Bob Knight was known as a pretty good coach and he may have gotten snippy with the media once or twice.

[nasdadjr]

If Nasdad neg reps someone, is there enough room for one of his typical run on sentences?

What in the world is neg rep? By the way I'd never rate a post in my life. Why would I rate something in an area where anyone is free to post?

[AviatorX]

The highlights from last years Nova game at Cintas are basically a love letter to the Sumner/Davis backcourt. Worth watching anyway because of the game itself, but when you watch this keeping in mind what Myles could add if he gets back in the flow, it's hard not to be excited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn76iv8j2zA

[XfansinKy]

The highlights from last years Nova game at Cintas are basically a love letter to the Sumner/Davis backcourt. Worth watching anyway because of the game itself, but when you watch this keeping in mind what Myles could add if he gets back in the flow, it's hard not to be excited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn76iv8j2zA

Oh man what a talented team. The last game still sticks

[D-West & PO-Z]

Bob Knight was known as a pretty good coach and he may have gotten snippy with the media once or twice.

Never said it didnt make him a good coach. I like Mack a lot, been a great coach for us.

[waggy]

Knight was an asshole of the highest order.

[Olsingledigit]

Knight was an asshole of the highest order.

As the IU fans used to say, "He might be an asshole, but he is our asshole".

True he was one at times but he could also be very nice and charming. I and a co-worker had a three way conversation lasting well over an hour the summer before the 1976 undefeated season and he was as nice as could be.

[xubrew]

Knight was an asshole of the highest order.

If you're not playing for him or against him then he's actually a pretty good guy.

[muskieindent]

When Myles returns,I certainly wouldn't disrupt the team chemistry if we are playing well.I would think he'd take minutes from Goodin but I would not start him.

[LA Muskie]

Not that I necessarily disagree with anything you said here but arent you making several assumptions yourself?

-Myles is well aware he is very lucky? How do you know he thinks that?
-Anyone else would not have been given second chance? How do you know that?
-The length of the suspension has been expected? How do you know that? How much longer will it be since you know what to expect?

The first and third are not assumptions on my part. I don't have firsthand knowledge of those facts, but I have them on very good and reliable authority.

The second is a hypothetical, so I guess in theory it's an "assumption". But it's not a blind assumption -- there is a lot of context behind that statement.


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[D-West & PO-Z]

The first and third are not assumptions on my part. I don't have firsthand knowledge of those facts, but I have them on very good and reliable authority.

The second is a hypothetical, so I guess in theory it's an "assumption". But it's not a blind assumption -- there is a lot of context behind that statement.


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They are all assumptions. Unless Myles and Mack are your authorities.

Edit: I realize you may mean they arent assumptions directly on your part because someone told you but if it wasnt Mack or Myles it was assumptions on that person's part and you are just passing those assumptions along.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sorry but I'm just not buying anyone's "relaible" sources anymore on anything related to Myles and his suspension.

We just had other people arguing how Myles actions have shown he isnt man'ing up and taking responsibility and we have you and your reliable sources saying Myles knows how lucky he is.

Just think its funny you are telling people not to make assumptions on this topic and then immediately say 3 things that you can have no way of knowing are true unless Mack and Myles themselves told you. So excuse me for not trusting your "facts" (laughable you would call them that) that you have on very "good and reliable authority".

[XfansinKy]

I have a source that confirmed he will not be back before the St. Johns game.

[LA Muskie]

They are all assumptions. Unless Myles and Mack are your authorities.

Edit: I realize you may mean they arent assumptions directly on your part because someone told you but if it wasnt Mack or Myles it was assumptions on that person's part and you are just passing those assumptions along.

They weren't assumptions, either directly or indirectly.


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[LA Muskie]

Sorry but I'm just not buying anyone's "relaible" sources anymore on anything related to Myles and his suspension.

We just had other people arguing how Myles actions have shown he isnt man'ing up and taking responsibility and we have you and your reliable sources saying Myles knows how lucky he is.

Just think its funny you are telling people not to make assumptions on this topic and then immediately say 3 things that you can have no way of knowing are true unless Mack and Myles themselves told you. So excuse me for not trusting your "facts" (laughable you would call them that) that you have on very "good and reliable authority".

You can choose who and what you want to believe. I don't really care. They weren't assumptions. And while the universe of people who have firsthand knowledge is limited, it is not limited to JUST Mack and Myles.


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[TUclutch]

You can choose who and what you want to believe. I don't really care. They weren't assumptions. And while the universe of people who have firsthand knowledge is limited, it is not limited to JUST Mack and Myles.


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Agreed with this. All the info Ive heard has been accurate and hasn't come from either of them

[XUFan09]

I wouldn't mix up people's information about when Myles comes back with other people's information about the general gist of what has happened. The source for the former is far more likely to be wrong than the source for the latter.

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