Remaining OOC games

[Xuperman]

6 of the 8 OOC games left might be against top 50 rpi. At least a 3-3 split would seem to be important come selection Sunday. I think UNI is a very good team and the rematch is big. A loss at home would be a net negative. Then there are 3 true away games and 2 at Cintas with the UC game as the last. Hope we are not 2-3 out of these 6 going in to that one! Baylor will be a tough W, so will be Utah at home. Heck they all are gonna be a challenge:chokeout:km"

[xukeith]

8- 0 would be amazing. I am shooting for that.

Worst case scenario, loss at Baylor and at UC.

6-2 would be okay.

[Milhouse]

8- 0 would be amazing. I am shooting for that.

Worst case scenario, loss at Baylor and at UC.

6-2 would be okay.

How is that worst case scenario.... I can see far worst than that

[XMuskieFTW]

8- 0 would be amazing. I am shooting for that.

Worst case scenario, loss at Baylor and at UC.

6-2 would be okay.

I think a loss at Colorado is more likely than at Baylor. That being said I think we hold serve at home and lose a maximum of 2 of 3 of our road games. I'd say we finish 6-2 or 7-1.

[muskiefan82]

this OOC schedule is shaping up to be the kind of test that this team needs. Close games that teach how to win under pressure, games on the road against what appear to be very good, solid clubs (@Baylor, @Colorado, and @UC) and decent teams at home in Utah, Wake Forest (maybe), and North Dakota State. This is actually a REALLY great OOC schedule for this team.

[GoMuskies]

It's missing that one marquee matchup, but other than that it's an excellent schedule.

[muskiefan82]

I am hoping that one of these games we don't see as a marquee matchup becomes that later. @Baylor or @Colorado might have that potential if they continue their play AND X wins there.

Also, is it wrong that I am adding the "likelihood of X playing a road game there" to the list of things to consider for my daughters college decision?

For the record, X is not an option for a Computer Science major or we would look at X first.

[Xuperman]

I agree on Colorado. Four 5th year seniors and a red shirt Jr. starters? Hard to be more experienced than that! Good size at every position and stats show deep bench. They could be marquee-ish come march.

[Xuperman]

Also, it is not a stretch that Baylor could be top 2-3 in a tough Big 12 and UC could easily be the AAC champs

[paulxu]

It's missing that one marquee matchup, but other than that it's an excellent schedule.

A real marquee matchup would be with the Dukes, Heels, etc. of the world.
They're not going to pay us to come to their house. They're not going to swap H/H's.
So we're left hoping to meet them in a neutral tournament OOC, or in the dance.
Plus, look at what just happened to Indiana. Hah!

[Xville]

I am hoping that one of these games we don't see as a marquee matchup becomes that later. @Baylor or @Colorado might have that potential if they continue their play AND X wins there.

Also, is it wrong that I am adding the "likelihood of X playing a road game there" to the list of things to consider for my daughters college decision?

For the record, X is not an option for a Computer Science major or we would look at X first.

Are you 100% sure of that? I'm pretty sure that is what my buddy graduated with from X over a decade ago, and he taught there for a few years in computer science classes as well.

Answered my own question http://www.xavier.edu/computer-science/

take your daughter to X...she has no other choice.

[muskiefan82]

They have it, but she is more of an M.I.T., Stanford, Cal-Berkeley type person that I am trying to find a college for on this end of the U.S. that is of similar stature.

[Milhouse]

I believe Sumner is Comp Science

[GoMuskies]

They have it, but she is more of an M.I.T., Stanford, Cal-Berkeley type person that I am trying to find a college for on this end of the U.S. that is of similar stature.

Which end of the US? Because you just covered both ends.

[bobbiemcgee]

Also, it is not a stretch that Baylor could be top 2-3 in a tough Big 12 and UC could easily be the AAC champs


Colorado upsets #22 Texas 68-54.

[muskiefan82]

Midwest, I suppose. 6-8 hour drive radius would be the area.

[Xuperman]

Texas was ranked but it looks like the Buffs dismantled them. George king must be a real beast on the boards!

[xubrew]

A real marquee matchup would be with the Dukes, Heels, etc. of the world.
They're not going to pay us to come to their house. They're not going to swap H/H's.
So we're left hoping to meet them in a neutral tournament OOC, or in the dance.
Plus, look at what just happened to Indiana. Hah!

Sure they would. They're probably not willing to pay us what we want, but if we're willing to take $70k with no sort of return game (which we absolutely should not) then they'd put us on the schedule as a buy game. They'd LOVE it.

It's more profitable and more winnable than playing us at a neutral site, which Duke has done. Or....no they didn't. That never happened. Okay, maybe you're right.

[X-band '01]

To be fair to North Carolina, they occasionally play home-and-homes with teams that are "layovers" - i.e. Hawaii, Long Beach State, and also Northern Iowa.

[xubrew]

To be fair to North Carolina, they occasionally play home-and-homes with teams that are "layovers" - i.e. Hawaii, Long Beach State, and also Northern Iowa.

Oh if Roy is your friend, he's coming!! @ Tulane, @ UAB, @ Northern Iowa, @UNC Greensboro, @ UNC Asheville to open the new arena (okay, that was was kind of mandated, but he still embraced it and I think he would have done it anyway), @ Evansville, @ College of Charleston.

Some coaches don't like playing your friends. Roy Williams likes to sleep on the couches of his friends and/or former assistants. And...they've lost some of those games, but he still does it, and UNC's program has not drowned in the sea. Good for him.

[GoMuskies]

Midwest, I suppose. 6-8 hour drive radius would be the area.

Then Wash U. it is.

[Xville]

Carnegie Mellon, university of Illinois, university of michigan, northwestern, duke, unc, university of virginia all have very strong computer science programs.

not that it is really any of my business but God-willing my kids grow up to be intelligent enough to go to these schools, but if they are, I'll be trying to steer them clear of highly pretentious schools like MIT, Stanford and Cal.....I'd rather have them go to a state school like Michigan or Illinois where at least there are some different groups of people. Just my two cents.

[markchal]

I think the schedule is really missing that Gavitt home game.

[XUGRAD80]

Watching Baylor-VCU game. Baylor is long tall and plays a combo 2-3/1-3-1 zone but doesn't rebound real well out of it, nor do they take real good care of the ball on the offense. But they do look like they will match up with X well and it may well the toughest team they play OOC.

[GoMuskies]

A team VCU is slapping around will be our toughest non-con opponent?!?

[XUGRAD80]

Bad matchup for the Muskies.......and the game ain't over yet...:)

[X-man]

Baylor won, but they look totally beatable. But I agree that they, and perhaps UC, will be our toughest non-league games this season.

[XUGRAD80]

Good chance they will be the highest ranked teams X plays OOC too.

[X-band '01]

It's a tossup as to whether or not Colorado or Baylor has a better overall season. I'd still say that Baylor is the tougher environment, but keep in mind that Colorado only lost one home game last year - Utah. And that was in a loaded Pac-12.

[xu82]

Then Wash U. it is.

Great school!

[Xuperman]

Baylor plays Michigan St. today @ noon so that will certainly tell a lot.

[LA Muskie]

Midwest, I suppose. 6-8 hour drive radius would be the area.

If you're in Cincy, Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT) might be a great fit for her. (My brother is a grad and my mother worked there for decades.). It's right at about 8 hrs away from Cincy.

DIII basketball though. So odds of an XU road game there are pretty low...


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[Masterofreality]

A team VCU is slapping around will be our toughest non-con opponent?!?

So, who got bitch slapped in the end. Back to mediocrity in the A10 VCU.
Remember when people were demanding that the Big East expand to 12 by adding VCU and the Cryers. #GoodTimes

[bobbiemcgee]

A-10 was 0-5 Tuesday. Fordham playing cupcakes to lead the League.

[Xuperman]

This Baylor/M St. game is very entertaining. Like a track meet and basketball game rolled into one! Find myself rooting hard for the Bears. They are long and very athletic. Motley is the best player on the floor. Has 20 at the half. We badly need Gates to get some quality minutes before we travel to Waco just to shake some rust and get his game legs. If not, I have no idea who we have that can keep him from going off. 7'4" wingspan? Sheez

[xukeith]

Not sure how good MSU is BUT Baylor "looks" like a top 10 team. So much athleticism. Remember X playing them in NCAA tourney? X simply lacked talent.

This X team is different but defense, rebounding and turnovers will be key at Baylor. They will be pumped with a top 10 team coming to their arena.

Same goes with NCAA caliber Colorado.

[X-band '01]

Both Xavier and Baylor will be Top 10 if they're unbeaten next week.

[xukeith]

Both Xavier and Baylor will be Top 10 if they're unbeaten next week.

HUGE win for Baylor. Not sure if today jumps them to top 10 but definitely top 15.

They are so athletic. Amazing talent! XU's front-court has it's hands full.

[X-band '01]

If you add a win over Louisville or Wichita State, they absolutely will look like a Top 10 team.

[xukeith]

Louisville's Defense looks amazingly solid. Will see them maybe against Baylor

[Xuperman]

Well now we all know. Baylor is a "marquee" match up for X. I watched over 80 minutes of Bear BBall and can not be more impressed. Can not see a W in Waco for X w/o Gates.

[Xuperman]

RealtimeRPI has Wake at 13 rising with a double bullet. Their big guy is gonna be quite the test for our patchwork 5. Going to be fun to see Gaston try and keep his double digit rebound streak against him!

[X-band '01]

Wake was in a similar position last year, albeit with a win against Indiana in Maui. They were never the same after come-from-ahead losses to Xavier and Virginia.

[Xuperman]

This team is better. Collins has developed nicely....looking like a Duncan 2.0 at 6'10" 250. His numbers are staggering....about 18 and 11 in only 25 MPG! Solid starting 5 and they hit about 8 3's pg, so they have a good inside out going offensively. The #13 rpi stuns me. This will be a nice W to get!

[Westbrook36]

Since we played them down in Charleston, I'll offer up a semi-coherent scouting report.

Wake is legit offensively and goes 7 deep. Collins is the star and a future pro, they also have a Euro big Mitoglou (6'-10") who is pretty good but not really consistent. Arians is a 6'-6" mid-major transfer who is a catch & shoot sniper, the other 4 guards are pretty athletic and very streaky. They can score points in a hurry and make it look easy. That said, they are soft and play no defense what so ever. Don't settle for easy 3's, they're turnstiles on D. Drive to the hole, go to the line, and get them in foul trouble.

[ReturnOfTheMack]

Since we played them down in Charleston, I'll offer up a semi-coherent scouting report.

...
Drive to the hole, go to the line, and get them in foul trouble.

That part could be problematic.

[X-band '01]

Since we played them down in Charleston, I'll offer up a semi-coherent scouting report.

Wake is legit offensively and goes 7 deep. Collins is the star and a future pro, they also have a Euro big Mitoglou (6'-10") who is pretty good but not really consistent. Arians is a 6'-6" mid-major transfer who is a catch & shoot sniper, the other 4 guards are pretty athletic and very streaky. They can score points in a hurry and make it look easy. That said, they are soft and play no defense what so ever. Don't settle for easy 3's, they're turnstiles on D. Drive to the hole, go to the line, and get them in foul trouble.

I remember Mitoglou from last year - I'm guessing that Cody Miller-McIntyre either graduated or moved on.

[xu82]

That part could be problematic.


We can go to the line, it's what happens next that can be an issue.

[XUMIOH12]

We can go to the line, it's what happens next that can be an issue.

its really just about getting the right people to the line. If the guards get to the line then everything is good, if its the bigs getting to the line there will be trouble.

[Xuperman]

We all should hope that this game does not get won or lost at the line! If that is the case then needed progress with this team will remain stagnant. Now is the time for a sound thrashing of a hopeful tournement team.

[Xuperman]

With only 1 OOC game left, what looked to be a pretty nice set of wins over some tournament teams looks pretty dismal. They all seem to be under performing as the conference slates have started. A lot left to go but apparently we have beaten no one that the committee will get excited about. It is a toss up that any will even make the tourney. UC will be there so getting a W there has even greater importance from a resume perspective.. Fortunately X will also be there but sadly our most significant game so far is that we out played #1 Baylor for 30 minutes on the road. Thankfully the BE is VERY strong!!!!

[xavierj]

With only 1 OOC game left, what looked to be a pretty nice set of wins over some tournament teams looks pretty dismal. They all seem to be under performing as the conference slates have started. A lot left to go but apparently we have beaten no one that the committee will get excited about. It is a toss up that any will even make the tourney. UC will be there so getting a W there has even greater importance from a resume perspective.. Fortunately X will also be there but sadly our most significant game so far is that we out played #1 Baylor for 30 minutes on the road. Thankfully the BE is VERY strong!!!!

Clemson? They will make the tourney. They are pretty good. Other than Xavier, they lost by 3 in OT to NC and 5 on road at ND. All losses to ranked teams.

[bleedXblue]

With only 1 OOC game left, what looked to be a pretty nice set of wins over some tournament teams looks pretty dismal. They all seem to be under performing as the conference slates have started. A lot left to go but apparently we have beaten no one that the committee will get excited about. It is a toss up that any will even make the tourney. UC will be there so getting a W there has even greater importance from a resume perspective.. Fortunately X will also be there but sadly our most significant game so far is that we out played #1 Baylor for 30 minutes on the road. Thankfully the BE is VERY strong!!!!

What's done is done....nothing you can do about it.

[xukeith]

According to rpiforecast.com,
Wake Forest will be a NCAA team.
Time will tell.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Clemson? They will make the tourney. They are pretty good. Other than Xavier, they lost by 3 in OT to NC and 5 on road at ND. All losses to ranked teams.

Yes Clemson is not underperforming, they have looked very good.

[Xuperman]

KEITH? RPIforcast has Wake @ 16-14 as the greatest probability for their record. Only a 2% chance at 20 wins, so no. Clemson is NIT bound. There are 7 ranked ACC teams and the Tigers are not one of them, nor will they be.. And besides.... How many teams beyond 7 can the ACC get in? UNI to me is the biggest disappointment. Turns out they suck! So much for those 2 wins being a plus.

[BMoreX]

KEITH? RPIforcast has Wake @ 16-14 as the greatest probability for their record. Only a 2% chance at 20 wins, so no. Clemson is NIT bound. There are 7 ranked ACC teams and the Tigers are not one of them, nor will they be.. And besides.... How many teams beyond 7 can the ACC get in? UNI to me is the biggest disappointment. Turns out they suck! So much for those 2 wins being a plus.

ACC could get ten

[D-West & PO-Z]

KEITH? RPIforcast has Wake @ 16-14 as the greatest probability for their record. Only a 2% chance at 20 wins, so no. Clemson is NIT bound. There are 7 ranked ACC teams and the Tigers are not one of them, nor will they be.. And besides.... How many teams beyond 7 can the ACC get in? UNI to me is the biggest disappointment. Turns out they suck! So much for those 2 wins being a plus.

ACC has 10 teams as projected tourney teams by most right now. A lot of people think double digits is very realistic for ACC this year. To say Clemson is NIT bound because they arent one of the ranked teams in their conference is pretty dense. Lunardi has them as a 6 seed right now. They have 5 top 50 wins. 3 of their 4 losses are to top 25 RPI teams. Look a little deeper next time.

[GoMuskies]

I'd say Clemson is who we thought they were. A pretty decent, power conference opponent that provided a nice neutral court win. Nothing amazing about putting a win over Clemson on the resume, but it's a solid win.

[Xuperman]

I just got red lined for my comments on this thread. Quote "Your negativity is tiresome"? What a joke! Can someone please tell me how pointing out our once promising OOC schedule has turned south? How pointing out that Clemson is mediocre and how they are our best OOC win is deemed negative? What do we have, a closet Tiger fan? The hypersensitivity of a lot on this site is overwhelming. All too often here, reality is not welcome unless it has a positive slant. I choose not to conform. Reality is X has 0 wins that will enhance post season seeding upwardly. Reality is, fortunately all those type games are yet to come. Go X!!!