Politics Thread

[Xville]

Keep yapping. An insider whistleblower Tony Bobulinski, who no one has claimed is lying, verified that “The Big Guy” reference was true. By the way. No White House denials, still.
I would think that since you always seemed to want to believe “whistleblowers” that were on your side against Trump, that you would also do the same thing here “in fairness”
Biden Indictment 2023 on the way. Lead witness? Tony Bobulinski et al.

Not saying ole Joe is responsible or not, but where is the actual credible evidence Joe was involved? Because "scorned lover," Tony said so? All credibility goes out the window once you come on to Fox News to blab to Tucker Carlson imo...it's the same credibility loss as going on Rachel Maddow's show.

Just like with Trump, this will take some time with Biden if he is indicted...to speak in absolutes, as you are doing, is quite absurd.

[XU_Lou]

I just love lazy analysis....

[paulxu]

I wondered where this Bobulinksi stuff came from.
2 years ago in October 2020, he was all over Fox with his allegations. Everybody looked at them.

The Wall Street Journal reviewed his documents and found no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden — or that he was active in his family’s foreign business endeavors, as Bobulinski claimed.
This was followed by:

Carlson ran a follow-up segment the next night, claiming Fox News had procured additional documents related to Hunter Biden but that they went missing in the mail.
(This is a variation on a theme....The Dog Ate My Homework, by Dr. Oz)
This gigantic deflection before the last election is now being re-run in all the usual places; Fox, NY Post, Daily Mail, etc.
Maybe it'll get more traction in the mid-term election this time.
Bobulinski's deal with Hunter in China fell through. Maybe he should have partnered with the Trump family. Jared made a cool 2 billion from the Saudi's.

[Xville]

I just love lazy analysis....

we know. It's your specialty. unsubstantiated Link followed by link followed by another link regardless if there are any facts in the link or not. Then, unfounded commentary on said links.

[XU_Lou]

we know. It's your specialty. unsubstantiated Link followed by link followed by another link regardless if there are any facts in the link or not. Then, unfounded commentary on said links.

You offer nothing of any substance whatsoever to any of the discussions on this thread. Your constant blabbering about sources, the viewpoints of posters (almost exclusively of those on the right), and “the truth is somewhere in the middle” is so tiresome and lazy.

If you don’t have the mental faculties to offer an intelligent rebuttal to an assertion, then maybe you should just shut the fuck up. As someone else already said to you, maybe you should post less and read more, because it’s obvious you don’t know shit about anything.

[Xville]

You offer nothing of any substance whatsoever to any of the discussions on this thread. Your constant blabbering about sources, the viewpoints of posters (almost exclusively of those on the right), and “the truth is somewhere in the middle” is so tiresome and lazy.

If you don’t have the mental faculties to offer an intelligent rebuttal to an assertion, then maybe you should just shut the fuck up. As someone else already said to you, maybe you should post less and read more, because it’s obvious you don’t know shit about anything.

Where's your link, lying lou?

The irony here is outstanding. An intelligent rebuttal is not needed when someone is posting a bunch of non substantiated opinions and passing it off as fact.

You cite Strange Brew as an example who still doesn't think the Supreme Court interprets the Constitution.

[XU_Lou]

80% of polls and stats are crap

Oh, this is a gem!

So, ville, just to be clear, is this “stat” you quoted part of the 80%, or the 20%? I’ll hang up and listen offline…

[Xville]

Oh, this is a gem!

So, ville, just to be clear, is this “stat” you quoted part of the 80%, or the 20%? I’ll hang up and listen offline…

That was a joke you clueless idiot.

Maybe I should have wrote it in a word doc, hyperlinked it, and then posted that link here so you could read it to understand.

[XU_Lou]

That was a joke you clueless idiot

Did anyone laugh...other than at you for making another stupid comment...

[XU_Lou]

Where's your link, lying lou?

The irony here is outstanding. An intelligent rebuttal is not needed when someone is posting a bunch of non substantiated opinions and passing it off as fact.

You cite Strange Brew as an example who still doesn't think the Supreme Court interprets the Constitution.

Did you forget willie:


And funny you claim to be middle of the road. You’re about as bad as Bobbie and Paul these days.

[Xville]

Did anyone laugh...other than at you for making another stupid comment...

Not sure. What's not funny but sad is that you couldn't even figure out that it was a joke given the context. I guess that shouldn't surprise anyone---context is certainly something you struggle with.

[XU_Lou]

Um good for you? 14 years ago is a long time ago, especially in todays climate.

You consistently call out Paul on every single post of his with a condescending attitude, he doesn’t do that to you. That’s the difference. You have little respect for views outside of your little world


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdDH7b51yzw

[bobbiemcgee]

lou should be restricted to the mental health thread.

[XU_Lou]

lou should be restricted to the mental health thread.

are you feeling lonely over there?

[Xuperman]

Did you forgot willie:

I can't understand why conservative thinkers here, continue to spar with these foolish Obama progressives. I posted that these political threads serve NO PURPOSE, because the leftist folks here REFUSE to debate any Biden policies, only constantly deflect to Trump shit.

The one thing you can count on, is that our liberal progressive friends here will not DARE post ANYTHING that they support in the Biden's Administration degrade America domestic policies.

'Ville, I am positive that your are simply a political masquerade persona....there is NO evidence that you lean right in any, way, shape, or form. Stop clowning around.

So, in order to make anything said in these threads productive, (other than juvenile insults), requires BASIC support of ANY Biden policy by our blowhard leftists here.

Full stop.

[Xuperman]

So,
Can ANY BIDEN supporter post anything that they are strongly in support? ......I mean anything.

That way we can debate the context of that unexpected post.

[Xville]

I can't understand why conservative thinkers here, continue to spar with these foolish Obama progressives. I posted that these political threads serve NO PURPOSE, because the leftist folks here REFUSE to debate any Biden policies, only constantly deflect to Trump shit.

The one thing you can count on, is that our liberal progressive friends here will not DARE post ANYTHING that they support in the Biden's Administration degrade America domestic policies.

'Ville, I am positive that your are simply a political masquerade persona....there is NO evidence that you lean right in any, way, shape, or form. Stop clowning around.

So, in order to make anything said in these threads productive, (other than juvenile insults), requires BASIC support of ANY Biden policy by our blowhard leftists here.

Full stop.

Bolded Sections:
1.) Then why are you spending time in the middle of the day reading and commenting on it?
2.) Lately, you are correct. However, that's due to the people who lean right here that constantly bitch about the left and do it in a condescending manner, while completely ignoring the faults within their own party.
3.) Not remotely correct and hysterical that you mention juvenile insults and in the same sentence say "Blowhard leftists." Man, that's rich. To make this thread effective would be to begin acknowledging problems within our world or country, and then speaking to possible solutions regarding those issues/problems and debating those. Instead, this thread is constant finger pointing by 3-4 people bitching about Trump and Biden and who is worse, along with finger pointing by people like yourself who blame everything that is wrong with the world on "the other side." It's actually a pretty good representation of politics as a whole right now and why nothing constructive rarely, if ever, gets done in DC.

[Xuperman]

Bolded Sections:
1.) Then why are you spending time in the middle of the day reading and commenting on it?
2.) Lately, you are correct. However, that's due to the people who lean right here that constant bitch about the left and do it in a condescending manner, while completely ignoring the faults within their own party. You are a great example of that.
3.) Not remotely correct and hysterical that you mention juvenile insults and in the same sentence say "Blowhard leftists." Man, that's rich. To make this thread effective would be to begin acknowledging problems within our world or country, and then speaking to possible solutions regarding those issues/problems and debating those. Instead, this thread is constant finger pointing by 3-4 people bitching about Trump and Biden and who is worse, along with finger pointing by people like yourself who blame everything that is wrong with the world on "the other side."

" Blowhard" is as a mild of an insult possible. It describes you by definition.

Can you be the guy that can make these political threads an actual exchange of ideas?

[XU_Lou]

I can't understand why conservative thinkers here, continue to spar with these foolish Obama progressives. I posted that these political threads serve NO PURPOSE, because the leftist folks here REFUSE to debate any Biden policies, only constantly deflect to Trump shit.

The one thing you can count on, is that our liberal progressive friends here will not DARE post ANYTHING that they support in the Biden's Administration degrade America domestic policies.

'Ville, I am positive that your are simply a political masquerade persona....there is NO evidence that you lean right in any, way, shape, or form. Stop clowning around.

So, in order to make anything said in these threads productive, (other than juvenile insults), requires BASIC support of ANY Biden policy by our blowhard leftists here.

Full stop.

You are correct - and he finally admits it - it's like that old South Park episode: "Come out the closet, Tom"


Bolded Sections:
1.) Then why are you spending time in the middle of the day reading and commenting on it?
2.) Lately, you are correct. However, that's due to the people who lean right here that constantly bitch about the left and do it in a condescending manner, while completely ignoring the faults within their own party.
3.) Not remotely correct and hysterical that you mention juvenile insults and in the same sentence say "Blowhard leftists." Man, that's rich. To make this thread effective would be to begin acknowledging problems within our world or country, and then speaking to possible solutions regarding those issues/problems and debating those. Instead, this thread is constant finger pointing by 3-4 people bitching about Trump and Biden and who is worse, along with finger pointing by people like yourself who blame everything that is wrong with the world on "the other side." It's actually a pretty good representation of politics as a whole right now and why nothing constructive rarely, if ever, gets done in DC.

Wow, so a couple of conservatives said some things that got your panties in a wad, and so you decide it's time to vote Dem? Wow!! This 100% proves what we always knew - that you have no convictions whatsoever. You have no core values, other than to be argumentative - just like that lying SOB Greg Stumbo...

[Xville]

You are correct - and he finally admits it - it's like that old South Park episode: "Come out the closet, Tom"



Wow, so a couple of conservatives said some things that got your panties in a wad, and so you decide it's time to vote Dem? Wow!! This 100% proves what we always knew - that you have no convictions whatsoever. You have no core values, other than to be argumentative - just like that lying SOB Greg Stumbo...

I think you seriously have a few synapses that just don't fire. I never said I decided to vote Dem. He said there is no evidence in this thread that I lean right, and I said that lately in this thread he is correct, there is no evidence. To further expand upon that, you can look at the early parts of this thread and there is evidence. I think you seriously need help.

Your post is a bunch of nonsense per usual and doesn't reflect anything that I actually said.

[Xville]

" Blowhard" is as a mild of an insult possible. It describes you by definition.

Can you be the guy that can make these political threads an actual exchange of ideas?

1.) Not really, but ok. I don't "boast" about anything on the political thread.

2.) If you are so concerned with that, then maybe you can try? Take an actual topic of something that is wrong...Not partisan perspective crap that you have stated before, but actual real problems and see where the thread goes. Maybe we can start solving problems that our friends in DC can't. My assumption though is that it won't go anywhere for a number of reasons, but most importantly i think people would rather just point fingers about why things are the way that they are.

[XU_Lou]

I think you seriously have a few synapses that just don't fire. I never said I decided to vote Dem. He said there is no evidence in this thread that I lean right, and I said that lately in this thread he is correct, there is no evidence. To further expand upon that, you can look at the early parts of this thread and there is evidence. I think you seriously need help.

Your post is a bunch of nonsense per usual and doesn't reflect anything that I actually said.

Okay, let me correct that: you now are finally admitting that you're really a Democrat. Why are you so embarrassed about that?

Let's review:

* Other than your fake R buddy, Larry Hogan, you've made it known on numerous occasions that you hate any and every Republican ever mentioned on this board.

* You've praised numerous Dems - including that lunatic leftist Andrew Yang

* You hate and disparage all right leaning media outlets - print, online and TV

* You argue like a Democrat - that is, you don't actually debate, but rather only disparage information as false because you disagree with it

* You view the role of the Supreme Court like a leftist

So, yes, it's pretty plain to see that you've been lying all this time with your self-righteous "I'm a centrist" bullshit to make it seem like you're somehow better than all of us.

#fraud #totalfraud

[Masterofreality]

I wondered where this Bobulinksi stuff came from.
2 years ago in October 2020, he was all over Fox with his allegations. Everybody looked at them.

This was followed by:

(This is a variation on a theme....The Dog Ate My Homework, by Dr. Oz)
This gigantic deflection before the last election is now being re-run in all the usual places; Fox, NY Post, Daily Mail, etc.
Maybe it'll get more traction in the mid-term election this time.
Bobulinski's deal with Hunter in China fell through. Maybe he should have partnered with the Trump family. Jared made a cool 2 billion from the Saudi's.

Hmmmmm. So you don’t want to believe Bobulinski, but you’ll believe Vindman who was not in the room for the call, but blew a whistle on second hand information? Why? Because it favors your side.
From PBS September 20, 2019:
“ The anonymous whistleblower says that despite his or her not being present for the call, multiple White House officials shared consistent details about it.

“Shared details about it”. Hell yeah they did. They released a transcript that Vindman tailored to his own biased accusations. No matter. Those partisan Dems were gonna go ahead and waste legislative time on a ludicrous allegation from a biased guy. Forget the fact that Hunter was getting paid $80k/month for advising a gas utility that he knew nothing about, and VP Biden was already on tape bragging about how he was gonna get that Ukraine prosecutor fired over him investigating his son before money was sent to Ukraine.

https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY

It also was clear all through Trump’s Presidency that there were biased moles who wanted to undermine the administration, so sure. Vindman and his cohorts were just digging for anything they could.
Can’t have it both ways, yapper.
Biden Impeachment 2023!

[Xville]

Okay, let me correct that: you now are finally admitting that you're really a Democrat. Why are you so embarrassed about that?

Let's review:

* Other than your fake R buddy, Larry Hogan, you've made it known on numerous occasions that you hate any and every Republican ever mentioned on this board.
Nope, not true
* You've praised numerous Dems - including that lunatic leftist Andrew Yang
Nope not true. And, I said I agreed with one thing Yang said.
* You hate and disparage all right leaning media outlets - print, online and TV
I don't "hate" right leaning media outlets. I hate opinionated partisan crap on both sides.
* You argue like a Democrat - that is, you don't actually debate, but rather only disparage information as false because you disagree with it

Hmm Lou...when have you actually debated anything?.. you come on here and just spew link after link of opinionated crap and when someone actually challenges you on it, you resort to personal attacks.

* You view the role of the Supreme Court like a leftist

No, it is a fact that the Supreme Court interprets the constitution. That's not a "view," that's an actual fact.

So, yes, it's pretty plain to see that you've been lying all this time with your self-righteous "I'm a centrist" bullshit to make it seem like you're somehow better than all of us.

Never said I was better than anyone except I do think that maybe you have serious issues and need to get checked out. I vote on both sides of the aisle and vote on both sides in terms of policy so that by definition would be a centrist. Whether you want that to be true or not is your own issue

#fraud #totalfraud

You can see above my retorts. I think you should get checked out. Who said I’m embarrassed? You have issues with putting words in people’s mouths. The thing is I take offense to people calling me things that I am not. It would be like me telling you that you are sane.

[Xuperman]

I think you seriously have a few synapses that just don't fire. I never said I decided to vote Dem. He said there is no evidence in this thread that I lean right, and I said that lately in this thread he is correct, there is no evidence. To further expand upon that, you can look at the early parts of this thread and there is evidence. I think you seriously need help.

Your post is a bunch of nonsense per usual and doesn't reflect anything that I actually said.

'Ville? At some point someone has to go on FULL FLAME support of this Biden/Obama radical progressive agenda. OTHERWISE, these political threads on our BASKETBALL SITE, are completely worthless.

Please, can any of our progressive friends here, post just 1 thing that they support in the Biden agenda?

[Xville]

'Ville? At some point someone has to go on FULL FLAME support of this Biden/Obama radical progressive agenda. OTHERWISE, these political threads on our BASKETBALL SITE, are completely worthless.

Please, can any of our progressive friends here, post just 1 thing that they support in the Biden agenda?

Why is this so important to you? So you can argue about it and blame the other side for all the country’s problems? It sounds like pointing fingers to me.

[Masterofreality]

Meanwhile in real world Biden foibles..
Biden’s OPEC secret promise backfires:

https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/bidens-secret-promise-to-opec-backfires

Let’s Go Brandon!!

[Xuperman]

1.) Not really, but ok. I don't "boast" about anything on the political thread.

2.) If you are so concerned with that, then maybe you can try? Take an actual topic of something that is wrong...Not partisan perspective crap that you have stated before, but actual real problems and see where the thread goes. Maybe we can start solving problems that our friends in DC can't. My assumption though is that it won't go anywhere for a number of reasons, but most importantly i think people would rather just point fingers about why things are the way that they are.

A topic? Have you completely lost your mind?

Easy- Unprecedented, even catastrophic, numbers illegally crossing our Southern boarder.....NO medical screening requirements. No background checks in any stringent policy.

Undeniable exit in mass, by big city cops. They simply cannot risk the cause and effect of the BLM backed progressive destruction of our law enforcement community. This is FULL BLOW INSANITY and I guarantee NOBODY here would dare to post anything in support.

ALL leftists here, and across the country, have a really sickening penchant to not communicate ANY support of their vote for this Biden domestic nightmare. Just like the blatantly left MSM, here is the epitome of nutless political cowardice.

[Xville]

A topic? Have you completely lost your mind?

Easy- Unprecedented, even catastrophic, numbers illegally crossing our Southern boarder.....NO medical screening requirements. No background checks in any stringent policy.

Undeniable exit in mass, by big city cops. They simply cannot risk the cause and effect of the BLM backed progressive destruction of our law enforcement community. This is FULL BLOW INSANITY and I guarantee NOBODY here would dare to post anything in support.

ALL leftists here, and across the country, have a really sickening penchant to not communicate ANY support of their vote for this Biden domestic nightmare. Just like the blatantly left MSM, here is the epitome of nutless political cowardice.

So instead of putting a partisan perspective on it with a lot of questionable “facts,” you could just say immigration and offer perspective on how to fix the issue. I think most people would agree it’s a challenge from multiple viewpoints. To fix it, would be the debate.

[Xuperman]

Why is this so important to you? So you can argue about it and blame the other side for all the country’s problems? It sounds like pointing fingers to me.

Important? WTF are you talking about?

If someone here doesn't make a STRONG case for supporting the Biden domestic agenda, and justify their vote for him, these political threads are worthless.

[Xville]

Important? WTF are you talking about?

If someone here doesn't make a STRONG case for supporting the Biden domestic agenda, and justify their vote for him, these political threads are worthless.

I’m going to let you in on a little secret. It is worthless, because you are never going to change someone’s political opinions on an anonymous message board.

Again, what do you gain by someone admitting something on the above? Someone to argue with?

It’s kind of easy to justify their vote for him, he’s not trump. No one I know (and I live in a pretty liberal area of Louisville so I have a lot of liberal neighbors) thinks Biden is doing just a fantastic job. They didn’t really vote for Biden, they voted against trump.

[Xuperman]

I’m going to let you in on a little secret. It is worthless, because you are never going to change someone’s political opinions on an anonymous message board.

Again, what do you gain by someone admitting something on the above? Someone to argue with?

It’s kind of easy to justify their vote for him, he’s not trump. No one I know (and I live in a pretty liberal area of Louisville so I have a lot of liberal neighbors) thinks Biden is doing just a fantastic job. They didn’t really vote for Biden, they voted against trump.

I get that. Trump is the most demonized public figure this side of Dahmer or OJ.

WHAT does that have to do with sound domestic policy?

If we have political threads on this site, doesn't it seem rational to expect a genuine exchange of ideas?

AGAIN, why doesn't any of our leftist progressives here post ANY detailed support of what the BIDEN Administration is forcing on America?

Plz....someone step up.

[paulxu]

Hmmmmm. So you don’t want to believe Bobulinski, but you’ll believe Vindman who was not in the room for the call, but blew a whistle on second hand information? Why? Because it favors your side.

Bobulinksi shows up for an October Surprise in 2020, and the Wall Street Journal can't verify his claims.
The next day the mail loses stuff headed for Tucker.

2 years later Bobulinksi shows up with Tucker with another October Surprise.
You'll have to forgive me if I wait for credible news outlets to verify it all this time around.

The call transcript used in the 1st impeachment was released by Trump. If it's wrong, take it up with him.
You're all worked up about Hunter's 80K? Fine, if he did something wrong put him in jail. All I hear is bitching.
How come you're not worked up about the cool 2 billion Jared got from the Saudi's.

You guys are such hypocrites. I'll say easily if a Dem breaks the law, convict him and put him away.
You all never say that. Hell, you're still defending Trump after going crazy about a Dem who took classified docs out in his socks. (and plead guilty)
Trump takes thousands of docs, including Top Secret ones, and.....crickets.

Today was a perfect example of the hypocrisy. Republicans are all No Abortion and some even don't want exceptions for rape, incest or health of mother.
Unless they need an abortion for a girlfriend...then it's OK.
And all the big boys rush to defend him. Newt says he was concussed a lot playing football.

My favorite theory, proven over and over again. Find a Republican who loudly rails against something...chances are they're the ones guilty of it.

[Xuperman]

See how Paul and MOR continually engage in a WORTHLESS pissing match?

All our other leftists here use the very same tactic.....exclusively post basically shit that totally avoids any discussion of responsibility of the Biden Administration and it's policies..........EXACTLY how the MSM does it.

It is shockingly abhorrent, and telling, that NO ONE here can tap 1 key stroke in support of this "Fundamentally Transform American" agenda. The Dems control BOTH houses of Congress AND the White House. Any and EVERYTHING happening is their complete responsibility. You voted for it, why can't you justify your vote?

[XU_Lou]

See how Paul and MOR continually engage in a WORTHLESS pissing match?

All our other leftists here use the very same tactic.....exclusively post basically shit that totally avoids any discussion of responsibility of the Biden Administration and it's policies..........EXACTLY how the MSM does it.

It is shockingly abhorrent, and telling, that NO ONE here can tap 1 key stroke in support of this "Fundamentally Transform American" agenda. The Dems control BOTH houses of Congress AND the White House. Any and EVERYTHING happening is their complete responsibility. You voted for it, why can't you justify your vote?

I think you make a great point.

Where are the libs? Why is it that you can't explain your vote and why you support this agenda?

Can any of you explain how the Biden agenda has improved America?

[Masterofreality]

You guys are such hypocrites. I'll say easily if a Dem breaks the law, convict him and put him away.
You all never say that. Hell, you're still defending Trump after going crazy about a Dem who took classified docs out in his socks. (and plead guilty)
Trump takes thousands of docs, including Top Secret ones, and.....crickets.

I’m not quoting all of this ridiculous post.
Just gonna say, after 6 years of your yapping about Trump, where is the non partisan indictment, and where is the conviction-ON ANYTHING?
You want hypocrites? Look no farther than “Pro Life” Tim Ryan who now supports abortion up to birth. And who says “I’m not beholding to any party” then votes 100% with Joe Biden & Pelosi. Don’t get me started about Fedderman.
Look in the mirror.
BIDEN IMPEACHMENT 2023!! Enjoy the Show!!

And I’m out of this thread discussion. I’ve wasted too much of my life correcting a blue gelled lunatic. Oh, but there will be posts on Biden’s f-ups, of which there will be many.
You 5 guys left on here have fun. I’ll be sitting back enjoying the red wave to come.

[XU_Lou]

See how Paul and MOR continually engage in a WORTHLESS pissing match?

All our other leftists here use the very same tactic.....exclusively post basically shit that totally avoids any discussion of responsibility of the Biden Administration and it's policies..........EXACTLY how the MSM does it.

It is shockingly abhorrent, and telling, that NO ONE here can tap 1 key stroke in support of this "Fundamentally Transform American" agenda. The Dems control BOTH houses of Congress AND the White House. Any and EVERYTHING happening is their complete responsibility. You voted for it, why can't you justify your vote?

And meanwhile, this madman in the Whitehouse is driving us ever closer to a nuclear war.

Are you libs even aware of this clip from back in February:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSPfXLPUJHM

Is that not admission of guilt? Moreover, look at what Blinken said the other day:

“It’s a tremendous opportunity to once and for all remove the dependence on Russian energy and thus to take away from Vladimir Putin the weaponisation of energy as a means of advancing his imperial designs.”

Biden has done NOTHING to try to bring a peaceful solution to this madness. Why?

[Xuperman]

I think you make a great point.

Where are the libs? Why is it that you can't explain your vote and why you support this agenda?

Can any of you explain how the Biden agenda has improved America?

Lou,
It is impossible to explain where these Obama progressives are....as it relates to REALITY.

There is absolutely no one here that will post any detailed support of this Biden Administration catastrophe. They WON'T because any defense will be subjected to brutal scrutiny.

They mirrored MSM deflection in text book form.

Nothing but Trump, J6, Trump White Nationalist, Trump Election deniers. Fck Trump.....that asshole CANNOT expand his 35% base.....PERIOD!

We should all prey that something happens to prevent him from getting the '24 Nomination.

We desperately need SERIOUS COMMON SENSE politicians that are simply AMERICA FIRST!

[noteggs]

Sounds a little salty in here

Carry on

[paulxu]

What's all this about that Nordstream 2 press conference. Is that somehow suppose to mean that we blew up Nordstream 1?

Shortly after that press conference, Russia invaded Ukraine.
AND, the Germans (not us) did not certify Nordstream 2 and bring it on line.
Entirely consistent with the German's comments in that press conference and Biden was indicating we were together on it.
Good lord.

It's like MOR going on about Tim Ryan and abortion.
I'd like to know if he thinks Herschel Walker should be arrested for murder for paying for his girlfriend to get an abortion.

More hypocrisy.

[Xuperman]

Look guys, these "politic" threads are completely worthless. There is ZERO effort from our leftist friends, to debate specific, AND, excruciatingly horrific reality, as it pertains the big city violence, border insanity and the complete destruction of BLUE integrity and respect.

So, until it happens here or ANYWHERE, with absolutely NO detailed support of these Obama Progressive Policies, the progressive left is nothing more than old style "snake oil" scam artists.

[paulxu]

Some good things from the current administration (as I see some here need this input; guessing their news feeds don't report them)

- IRA will provide health care coverage for more Americans, let Medicare negotiate drug prices, cap drug costs for seniors, make insulin affordable for all, and put a minimum tax on corporations experiencing record profits to help with the costs
- American Rescue plan put dollars into states and communities to help defray the impact of the pandemic and payroll support; unemployment falls below 3.7%
- CHIPS act to invest in American production of microchips to reduce dependency on foreign supply
- Pact Act for veterans exposed to toxic chemicals in war zones
- Infrastructure Law passed to pump needed funds into our roads and bridges, aging waters systems help, bring broadband to rural areas
- Strengthened our commitments with allies in NATO and joined them to work against Russian's invasion of Ukraine with valuable intelligence and military resources
- Working to rebuild the damaged State Department and correct some of the relations damaged by the prior administration
- Respecting our men and women in uniform again; correcting the denigration of the last administration who called them "losers", valuing their contribution and honoring their sacrifice

Just some of the things to recognize that have been accomplished by the current administration, in difficult times with very little support from the other side of the isle.
My guess is that the rising gas price will be a key in next month's election and Republicans will do well in the midterm. That generally happens in an off-year.
For our country's sake I, for one, hope that it doesn't and we can continue to do good things as noted above.

[Xuperman]

Some good things from the current administration (as I see some here need this input; guessing their news feeds don't report them)

- IRA will provide health care coverage for more Americans, let Medicare negotiate drug prices, cap drug costs for seniors, make insulin affordable for all, and put a minimum tax on corporations experiencing record profits to help with the costs
- American Rescue plan put dollars into states and communities to help defray the impact of the pandemic and payroll support; unemployment falls below 3.7%
- CHIPS act to invest in American production of microchips to reduce dependency on foreign supply
- Pact Act for veterans exposed to toxic chemicals in war zones
- Infrastructure Law passed to pump needed funds into our roads and bridges, aging waters systems help, bring broadband to rural areas
- Strengthened our commitments with allies in NATO and joined them to work against Russian's invasion of Ukraine with valuable intelligence and military resources
- Working to rebuild the damaged State Department and correct some of the relations damaged by the prior administration
- Respecting our men and women in uniform again; correcting the denigration of the last administration who called them "losers", valuing their contribution and honoring their sacrifice

Just some of the things to recognize that have been accomplished by the current administration, in difficult times with very little support from the other side of the isle.
My guess is that the rising gas price will be a key in next month's election and Republicans will do well in the midterm. That generally happens in an off-year.
For our country's sake I, for one, hope that it doesn't and we can continue to do good things as noted above.

Sooo?
That is the way you articulate support for BIDEN?

I think it doesn't address any of the TOP 5 pertaining domestic catastrophic issues.

[xuphan]

Sounds a little salty in here

Carry on

100’%.

[paulxu]

Sooo?
That is the way you articulate support for BIDEN?

I think it doesn't address any of the TOP 5 pertaining domestic catastrophic issues.

Here's why one can't "debate" you on these sorts of issues; it's because you deal solely in a biased perspective.
Here's one clear example, and that's all the time I'll spend on it. The accomplishments noted above speak for themselves (I notice you don't acknowledge them).

The rising crime rate is a real challenge, that soared during the pandemic years. There are multiple reasons, yet your focus is "big cities" controlled by Democrats...as if that is the singular reason.
While that is a real problem, the rising crime rate, your simplistic outlook evades proven reality;

Despite politicized claims that this rise was the result of criminal justice reform in liberal-leaning jurisdictions, murders rose roughly equally in cities run by Republicans and cities run by Democrats. So-called “red” states actually saw some of the highest murder rates of all. This data makes it difficult to pin recent trends on local policy shifts and reveals the basic inaccuracy of attempts to politicize a problem as complex as crime. Instead, the evidence points to broad national causes driving rising crime.


For example, Jacksonville, a city with a Republican mayor, had 128 more murders in 2020 than San Francisco, a city with a Democrat mayor, despite their comparable populations. In fact, the homicide rate in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco was half that of House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy’s Bakersfield, a city with a Republican mayor that overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Yet there is barely a whisper, let alone an outcry, over the stunning levels of murders in these and other places.

So while everyone agrees that our crime rate has risen, and stimulus dollars were allocated for police funding and mental health initiative, you want to go on about Democrats and their violent cities...overlooking the realities facing the whole country. Not a lot of point "debating" with you, is there.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/myths-and-realities-understanding-recent-trends-violent-crime

https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem

[XU_Lou]

Here's why one can't "debate" you on these sorts of issues; it's because you deal solely in a biased perspective.
Here's one clear example, and that's all the time I'll spend on it. The accomplishments noted above speak for themselves (I notice you don't acknowledge them).

The rising crime rate is a real challenge, that soared during the pandemic years. There are multiple reasons, yet your focus is "big cities" controlled by Democrats...as if that is the singular reason.
While that is a real problem, the rising crime rate, your simplistic outlook evades proven reality;




So while everyone agrees that our crime rate has risen, and stimulus dollars were allocated for police funding and mental health initiative, you want to go on about Democrats and their violent cities...overlooking the realities facing the whole country. Not a lot of point "debating" with you, is there.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/myths-and-realities-understanding-recent-trends-violent-crime

https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem

Paul, as usual. you're using faulty data - which leads to faulty conclusions....

FBI data from 2019. Top 100 Cities. Sort by total violent crime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

* You have to go down to #13 Anchorage to find the first city run by a R. / Then #19 Tulsa

* Only 4 of the top 30 most violent cities are run by Republicans.


More recent murder data - there doesn't seem to be a single Republican run city on this list: https://www.foxnews.com/us/emerging-crime-capitals-america-these-cities-have-highest-murders-per-capita


Cities with the Highest Increase in Homicide Rates (again, not many Rs in the cities with the highest increases):
https://wallethub.com/edu/cities-homicide-rate/94070


You are precisely why we have this problem - you can't face the reality that it being caused by your vote, and the policies that were enabled by your vote.

[XU_Lou]

What's all this about that Nordstream 2 press conference. Is that somehow suppose to mean that we blew up Nordstream 1?

Shortly after that press conference, Russia invaded Ukraine.
AND, the Germans (not us) did not certify Nordstream 2 and bring it on line.
Entirely consistent with the German's comments in that press conference and Biden was indicating we were together on it.
Good lord.

It's like MOR going on about Tim Ryan and abortion.
I'd like to know if he thinks Herschel Walker should be arrested for murder for paying for his girlfriend to get an abortion.

More hypocrisy.

Paul - did you believe the government narrative about the Vietnam War back in the day?

* please, try to refrain from using words like abortion, Herschel Walker, or MOR in your reply.

[paulxu]

So, the data I linked reflected the recent rise in crime rates.
And Lou sites a 2019 study...before the recent rise.
And totally ignores the data pointing our crime rates in red states.
In the recent data he notes, murders are actually down in those cities from previous years, while total violent crime is up.

And...probably wonders why people don't want to debate him and his friends.

[Xuperman]

Actually Paul, today is a new day and you should be commended for posting what you did in support of Biden.

However, there are so many other highly corrosive issues that are seriously impacting all of us as we speak. Surely you understand why people on the right are basically fed up with this Dem controlled DC and their policies. Some of these things are so obviously damaging and dangerous, I simply can not understand why anyone is ok with it.

As far as the appalling crime rates, yes every major city is seeing spikes. But don't you see that Law enforcement moral has taken a huge hit, post George Floyd? It is painfully obvious that so many big city cops simply choose not to engage high risk criminal activity. Then to make matters MUCH worse, Progressive Judges and especially Progressive DAs appear to have lost their minds. No Bail policies and reduced sentencing guidelines has become commonplace. Heck, it seems to be trending that some of the far left DAs just refuse to prosecute certain crimes. Unfortunately Paul, this problem is far more evident in large Dem run cities. Do you disagree?

[XU_Lou]

So, the data I linked reflected the recent rise in crime rates.
And Lou sites a 2019 study...before the recent rise.
And totally ignores the data pointing our crime rates in red states.
In the recent data he notes, murders are actually down in those cities from previous years, while total violent crime is up.

And...probably wonders why people don't want to debate him and his friends.

Nice deflection - I guess you missed the links to the more recent data which tells the same story.

It's your side that is the problem - face the music...

Are you going to answer the question about Vietnam?

[paulxu]

Nice deflection - I guess you missed the links to the more recent data which tells the same story.

It's your side that is the problem - face the music...

Are you going to answer the question about Vietnam?

Deflection? Do you understand simple math?


In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.

8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century.

Why should I respond about Vietnam? Were you alive then? Did you serve?

How about retracting your nonsense about Joe Biden closing down Nord Stream 2 when it was the German government that didn't certify it after the Russian invasion? You post something clearly in error and aren't man enough to own up to it.

[GoMuskies]

In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.


Talk about lies, damn lies and statistics.

[Masterofreality]

Biden takes money out of hard working people’s pockets:
https://nypost.com/2022/10/06/americans-saw-most-severe-pay-cut-in-25-years-under-biden/

And now because of his ludicrous energy policy, he’s asking for help from VENEZUELA! A country whose citizens are abandoning it FOR THE US in droves.
What a disaster of an administration!

https://www.foxnews.com/media/rising-gas-prices-fuel-small-business-concerns-biden-admin-asks-venezuela-help-very-frustrating

[paulxu]

Talk about lies, damn lies and statistics.

Yep; top 7 states in murder/capita all voted Republican for president.
The top state (Louisiana) at 15.8/100K was 73% higher than the worst Democratic state (Illinois) at 9.1.

[XU_Lou]

Deflection? Do you understand simple math?



Why should I respond about Vietnam? Were you alive then? Did you serve?

How about retracting your nonsense about Joe Biden closing down Nord Stream 2 when it was the German government that didn't certify it after the Russian invasion? You post something clearly in error and aren't man enough to own up to it.

* yes, deflection, and even more deflection, and you know it. This is why NO ONE on this board takes you seriously....

* Yes, it's far more likely that Biden blew up Nord Stream than it was for Russia to blow up their own pipeline which they controlled - Biden's on video admitting that he would do it. What more evidence do you need? Blinken's statement post fact indicates that it was a good thing that it happened - more evidence!

Your guy started this damn war, and he has massive blood on his hands!

German certification, blah, blah, blah - that has nothing to do with this issue - more deflection. Do you have the ability to stay on topic - like ever?


What possible justification is there for America getting involved in this war? The "domino theory"? Wasn't that debunked as total BS after Vietnam? I'm sure you knew it was total BS at the time, but now you're all gung-ho about killing people based on basically the same flawed theory.


P.S.: "Why should I respond about Vietnam? Were you alive then? Did you serve?" What the hell does this have to do with anything? This is just more deflection - is it literally impossible for you to focus on the topic at hand?

[GoMuskies]

Yes, Louisiana has a murder rate overall of 15.8/100k in 2020. That leads the nation. And Louisiana went for Trump in 2020. So your statement isn't incorrect.

On the other hand, New Orleans has a murder rate of 41/100k, which I think we'd all agree tends to skew Louisiana's overall rate upwards. In the 2020 Presidential election, Orleans Parish, which includes New Orleans, voted 83% for Biden and 15% for Trump.

[XU_Lou]

Yep; top 7 states in murder/capita all voted Republican for president.
The top state (Louisiana) at 15.8/100K was 73% higher than the worst Democratic state (Illinois) at 9.1.

Nice of you to move the goal post (surprise, surprise!) from cities to states all of a sudden!

I'll do you one better - murder rates went up in the country that Biden won....

[paulxu]

Yes, Louisiana has a murder rate overall of 15.8/100k in 2020. That leads the nation. And Louisiana went for Trump in 2020. So your statement isn't incorrect.

On the other hand, New Orleans has a murder rate of 41/100k, which I think we'd all agree tends to skew Louisiana's overall rate upwards. In the 2020 Presidential election, Orleans Parish, which includes New Orleans, voted 83% for Biden and 15% for Trump.

Good points, and with the concentration of people in urban areas, statistics like what you note will occur for sure.
Even more so when large swaths of the city are depressed economically, which is certainly the case in New Orleans.
Overall the state went Republican 58.5% to 40%. So you do have to look at the totality of the population, and the results, also.

[Xuperman]

Me personally, would love to see more detailed murder stats. I mean regular murders vs bad guys killing other bad guys. Other than collateral casualties to innocent people, does anyone here really care if these animals kill each other? Trial or incarceration funds not necessary for the dead bad guys.... win win for decent taxpayers.

[94GRAD]

Xuperman/Lou, Thoughts on this Biden policy?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2022/10/06/biden-pardon-federal-convictions-marijuana-possession-cannabis/8197999001/

[GoMuskies]

Xuperman/Lou, Thoughts on this Biden policy?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2022/10/06/biden-pardon-federal-convictions-marijuana-possession-cannabis/8197999001/

Biden is selling subscriptions to the Cincinnati Enquirer now? That's cruel even for Biden!

I assume this link relates to Biden's weed pardon, which seems like a good thing. Not one who partakes myself, but some on this board seem like they could use some to mellow out a bit.

[Masterofreality]

Good points, and with the concentration of people in urban areas, statistics like what you note will occur for sure.
Even more so when large swaths of the city are depressed economically, which is certainly the case in New Orleans.
Overall the state went Republican 58.5% to 40%. So you do have to look at the totality of the population, and the results, also.

And which party’s fault is it that “large swaths of the city are economically depressed”?
New Orleans has not had a Republican mayor for 152 Years !!!!

From Wikipedia:,
Benjamin Franklin Flanders (January 26, 1816 – March 13, 1896) was a teacher, politician and planter in New Orleans, Louisiana. In 1867, he was appointed by the military commander as the 21st Governor of Louisiana during Reconstruction, a position which he held for some six months. He is the second and currently the last Republican mayor of New Orleans, Louisiana.

[XU_Lou]

Biden is selling subscriptions to the Cincinnati Enquirer now? That's cruel even for Biden!

I assume this link relates to Biden's weed pardon, which seems like a good thing. Not one who partakes myself, but some on this board seem like they could use some to mellow out a bit.

Ditto....

[X-band '01]

Biden is selling subscriptions to the Cincinnati Enquirer now? That's cruel even for Biden!

I assume this link relates to Biden's weed pardon, which seems like a good thing. Not one who partakes myself, but some on this board seem like they could use some to mellow out a bit.

Hey now, I bought a subscription when I found out Paul Daugherty was no longer there!

[Masterofreality]

Catherine Herridge:CBS News-

“ The FBI has gathered - what it believes - is evidence to charge Pres. Biden’s son Hunter w/crimes related to his taxes and a gun purchase. FBI has sent the information to U.S. Attorney in Delaware, while Hunter Biden’s attorney hit back at the allegations.”

Reality Bites, huh.?

[paulxu]

Catherine Herridge:CBS News-

“ The FBI has gathered - what it believes - is evidence to charge Pres. Biden’s son Hunter w/crimes related to his taxes and a gun purchase. FBI has sent the information to U.S. Attorney in Delaware, while Hunter Biden’s attorney hit back at the allegations.”

Reality Bites, huh.?

My answer from earlier in the thread:


You're all worked up about Hunter's 80K? Fine, if he did something wrong put him in jail. All I hear is bitching.

They've been looking at him for years for taxes.
Wait....what about the laptop???

Now it's your turn. Can you do the same. I don't have a problem with holding Hunter accountable.
How about you and your Senate candidate in Georgia. Is he guilty of murder by hire for paying for his girlfriend's abortion?

So far no response. I'll wait.

[Masterofreality]

My answer from earlier in the thread:


They've been looking at him for years for taxes.
Wait....what about the laptop???

Uh, this IS about the lap top. That is where evidence is located on taxes & guns.

Now it's your turn. Can you do the same. I don't have a problem with holding Hunter accountable.
How about you and your Senate candidate in Georgia. Is he guilty of murder by hire for paying for his girlfriend's abortion?

So far no response. I'll wait.

One answer is above in bold. It’s clear
Wait. Is “Abortion” Murder now Paul! Are you admitting that your entire side endorsed 6 million murders? I don’t think you want to go there.
When will u address the hypocrisy of Tim Ryan on abortion since you now say that abortion is “murder”. Look in the mirror.
And for years all u have done is scream about convictions from the Mueller investigation . What for? Uh TAXES! But worse. Now we have guns too! Hi Hunter!!!
This must really sting!!

For the record, unlike your party that just wants to release convicted criminals (like Biden’s Executive order releasing all kind of Mary Jane drug convicts- CONVICTS AS A RESULT OF BIDEN’s CRIME BILL under Clinton ((hypocrisy)), and the Kamala Bail fund for rioters, I highly endorse prosecution and conviction, with due process, of anyone who commits a crime.
With this current crime spike, your party is on the wrong way side of this.
Way to Yap yourself into oblivion.

[paulxu]

It was too much to hope for.
I didn't say all abortions were murder...you did.
I asked if you supported Walker, who paid to have his girlfriend get an abortion. (Sort of like murder of hire)

So, back to a simple question: do you support Walker?

Repeating: if Hunter Biden broke the law, make him pay.
The tax evasion case has been going on since 2018...long before any laptop nonsense.
The charge of lying on a gun purchase form came from his own book admitting drug use when he bought the gun.
He's a mixed up guy. If he broke the law, the Delaware AG in charge of bring the case is a Trump appointee who Garland wisely left in place and is given him a free rein.

None of this case is tied to the president at this point. Wishful thinking on many people's part; will make more grist for the grist mill suckers.

[Masterofreality]

It was too much to hope for.
I didn't say all abortions were murder...you did.

You are the one accusing Herschel Walker of murder for hire. I never said a word about it until you did. Do you have Dementia?
I asked if you supported Walker, who paid to have his girlfriend get an abortion. (Sort of like murder of hire) There it is again.

So, back to a simple question: do you support Walker?
So, back to a simple question. Do you support Tim Ryan and his hypocrisy over “Murders” as you yourself called abortion? Do you support “murders” as you call abortion, up until the moment of birth as your party does?

Repeating: if Hunter Biden broke the law, make him pay.
The tax evasion case has been going on since 2018...long before any laptop nonsense.

The FBI has had the laptop and mining it for evidence. Now they have it.Not nonsense. It’s called “the smoking gun”

None of this case is tied to the president at this point. Wishful thinking on many people's part; will make more grist for the grist mill suckers.
Sounds just like you yapping about Trump the last 6 years with zero that happened..

The Biden investigation is only at the beginning. Get ready for BIDEN IMPEACHMENT 2023.
Your side started this stuff. What goes around comes around

[noteggs]

Yea may hurt Herschel’s stance on pro-life if true. What’s weird is the accuser is now saying she had a baby with him as well.

With Hunter, what does this do to Joe’s message of people must pay their fair share?

[bobbiemcgee]

The Biden investigation is only at the beginning. Get ready for BIDEN IMPEACHMENT 2023.
Your side started this stuff. What goes around comes around

Yeah, good luck getting 67 Senators to vote. But if it did happen, the racists would have Harris as Pres. Haha

[UCGRAD4X]

Yeah, good luck getting 67 Senators to vote. But if it did happen, the racists would have Harris as Pres. Haha

Everybody would.

[paulxu]

It was too much to hope for.
I didn't say all abortions were murder...you did.
I asked if you supported Walker, who paid to have his girlfriend get an abortion. (Sort of like murder of hire)

So, back to a simple question: do you support Walker?

Crickets?

[Masterofreality]

I’m done dealing with the yapping above. I posted an answer. You can’t argue with stupid and apparently stupid can’t read.

Instead Ima just gonna keep posting Biden’s foibles, and there are many.
If you wanna know why gas prices are insane and going higher, this repost explains it.
And nice job Brandon of begging to Venezuela for energy. This admin is a dumpster fire
https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/bidens-secret-promise-to-opec-backfires

[paulxu]

I fail to find where you answered the question "do you support Herschel Walker?"

Pretty sure you didn't answer that simple question.
I can actually understand your reluctance: it would mean supporting another hypocritical Republican who went on and on about being against ALL abortions, including rape, incest and health of mother. Because, after all, murder. (unless he has to pay for it for his own girlfriend...well then, it's OK)
So, I do understand why you won't answer.

[Strange Brew]

Crickets?

Maybe, he did Paul. Maybe.

It’s Oct, who knows what is true. :)

[GoMuskies]

I wish Herschel Walker had stayed out of politics. A national treasure ruined.

If I lived in Georgia, I would vote for him over Warnock, but I wouldn't be pleased that those were my choices.

[paulxu]

I wish Herschel Walker had stayed out of politics. A national treasure ruined.

If I lived in Georgia, I would vote for him over Warnock, but I wouldn't be pleased that those were my choices.

Curious; how do you think, based on what you've seen of Warnock and Walker, that the latter would provide any positive governance for the country?
Is it just that he would be a sure R vote?
Is there something in his background that I'm missing that makes you think that?

I didn't like either of Reagan or Bush Jr's politics; but I respected they brought governmental experience to the executive branch; and in both cases that experience was (like Clinton's) executive experience.

Electing reality TV stars or Football coaches/players to very high office doesn't seem to me to be a good approach.

[GoMuskies]

I think they're both terrible candidates for elective office, so I would vote for the one I think would likely vote the way I would prefer on particular pieces of legislation. Neither are likely to be in the middle of creating any legislation that I would want passed, and they're both going to absolutely embarrass themselves in any committee assignments.

[paulxu]

OK, I thought my state would have more election big lie people, but Ohio is way out in front.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2022/election-deniers-running-for-office-elections-2022/?itid=hp-top-table-main-t-3

[Xuperman]

I’m done dealing with the yapping above. I posted an answer. You can’t argue with stupid and apparently stupid can’t read.

Instead Ima just gonna keep posting Biden’s foibles, and there are many.
If you wanna know why gas prices are insane and going higher, this repost explains it.
And nice job Brandon of begging to Venezuela for energy. This admin is a dumpster fire
https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/bidens-secret-promise-to-opec-backfires

This one covers the Biden war on our energy sector in DETAIL.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-biden-hampered-domestic-energy-industry-despite-pleas-foreign-oil

Man, this has to be the most destructive domestic policy to directly effect the US economy of all time....across EVERY conceivable economic sector. I don't see how TWO MORE years of this insanity doesn't spin us into a really horrific norm.

[bobbiemcgee]

I wish Herschel Walker had stayed out of politics. A national treasure ruined.

If I lived in Georgia, I would vote for him over Warnock, but I wouldn't be pleased that those were my choices.

You think this guy was national treasure bcuz he played football? His personal life is a joke. 4 baby mama's, one of which he held a gun to her head and said he would "blow her brains out". Loved his Climate Change position:
“Since we don’t control the air, our good air decided to float over to China’s bad air, so when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move. So it moves over to our good air space. Then, now, we got to clean that back up.”
Guess you would vote for the 300 election deniers as well.

[Strange Brew]

You think this guy was national treasure bcuz he played football? His personal life is a joke. 4 baby mama's, one of which he held a gun to her head and said he would "blow her brains out". Loved his Climate Change position:
“Since we don’t control the air, our good air decided to float over to China’s bad air, so when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move. So it moves over to our good air space. Then, now, we got to clean that back up.”
Guess you would vote for the 300 election deniers as well.


Makes about as much sense as what comes out of Biden’s mouth daily…lol

[bobbiemcgee]

Guess you were a fan of "nuking hurricanes", "they took over the airports" ( in the 1700's), "PR is surrounded by water, ocean water", "windmills cause cancer" and a big favorite bleach "just inject it inside".

[Strange Brew]

Guess you were a fan of "nuking hurricanes", "they took over the airports" ( in the 1700's), "PR is surrounded by water, ocean water", "windmills cause cancer" and a big favorite bleach "just inject it inside".

Guess not. What’s your point?

[xuwillie]

Guess not. What’s your point?

Bobbie or Paul Never have a point. They are two miserable human beings that are so blinded they think trump was the worst thing to happen to us. instead of truly looking at what's going on the last two years. This country is f'd

[XU_Lou]

Covid vaccine killed Democrat Congressman’s 17-Year-Old Daughter:

https://twitter.com/RepCasten/status/1578489390179188736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1578489390179188736%7Ctwgr% 5E0c8352a3e4cc6ff3f54d85653ea218ae6b81322e%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthelibertydaily.com%2Fdemocr at-congressmans-17-year-old-daughters-death-confirmed-to-be-from-known-vaccine-adverse-reaction%2F

I know the state-controlled US media doesn't report on stuff like this, but this is happening all the time..... wake up....

[XU_Lou]

Another truth bomb from Steve Deace:

Is Putin a heroic liberator of Ukraine? No
Is Ukraine a corrupt Soros/WEF proxy state? Yes
Would swaths of Ukraine prefer to be Russian? Yes
Is Ukraine worth nuclear war? No
Is Ukraine worth wrecking your economy/energy supply? No
Do the elites doing this care about you? No

https://twitter.com/SteveDeaceShow/status/1578714074707537920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1578714074707537920%7Ctwgr% 5Eae92d28dc8952f17617f732254e9f1fd25af686e%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthelibertydaily.com%2Fsix-truths-about-russia-ukraine-in-one-epic-tweet%2F

[UCGRAD4X]

Biden says, under his watch, we are close to Armageddon than we have been since Cuban Missile.

[bobbiemcgee]

[QUOTE=xuwillie;740070]Bobbie or Paul/QUOTE]

Yeah, and 81 million others. When are you going to Fla. wee willie. You can vote for DeSatanis and fit right in. Your in the vast minority here with SB. Go where your warped Qanon views mean something.

[bobbiemcgee]

Another truth bomb from Steve Deace:

Is Putin a heroic liberator of Ukraine? No
Is Ukraine a corrupt Soros/WEF proxy state? Yes
Would swaths of Ukraine prefer to be Russian? Yes
Is Ukraine worth nuclear war? No
Is Ukraine worth wrecking your economy/energy supply? No
Do the elites doing this care about you? No

https://twitter.com/SteveDeaceShow/status/1578714074707537920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1578714074707537920%7Ctwgr% 5Eae92d28dc8952f17617f732254e9f1fd25af686e%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthelibertydaily.com%2Fsix-truths-about-russia-ukraine-in-one-epic-tweet%2F

Steve Douche from Blaze TV...get serious...another election denier. Go back to your mental health thread. He was a NEVERTRUMPER until tRUMP won. Geez.

[Masterofreality]

If you wanna shoot a messenger, shoot not Fox News, Libs. You can shoot the Washington Post.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/after-opec-oil-cut-washington-post-claims-bidens-foreign-policy-saudi-arabia-has-failed-badly

[XU_Lou]

Steve Douche from Blaze TV...get serious...another election denier. Go back to your mental health thread. He was a NEVERTRUMPER until tRUMP won. Geez.

Boobie - you may want to try staying away from the dispensary...

Edit: Seriously, can you tell us YOUR answers to those 6 questions?

[Strange Brew]

[QUOTE=xuwillie;740070]Bobbie or Paul/QUOTE]

Yeah, and 81 million others. When are you going to Fla. wee willie. You can vote for DeSatanis and fit right in. Your in the vast minority here with SB. Go where your warped Qanon views mean something.

What is Qanon?

I was in Naples in Aug. it was nice. But so is CO so I’ll hang around.

Don’t worry Bobbie, we all may get a chance to vote for DeSantis.

[Xuperman]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/longtime-democrat-apos-embarrassed-apos-060036251.html

I'm thinking a whole lot of big city Dem voters have this same attitude and will vote R.

[GoMuskies]

You think this guy was national treasure bcuz he played football?

Yes. 98% of Americans loved Herschel Walker before he got into politics. We wouldn't have known or cared about any of the rest if he had just done some commercials, traded on his football fame and steered WAY clear of politics. The world would have one more hero.

[xubrew]

I wonder just how stupid the rest of the world thinks this country is. And...they're not wrong.

I really am curious what percentage of the adult population in this country would fail to answer 60% of the questions correctly on the naturalization test. I wonder what percentage of people running for office would fail to answer 60% of the questions correctly. For the first time in my life I'm starting to wonder if we'd be better off if voters had to take this test and score a 60 on it in order to be eligible, and if individuals running for office needed to score a 90 on it. The reason I never thought about this before is because I just assumed that virtually every adult living in this country would be able to do it, but now I think there is a substantial percentage that wouldn't be able to.

We're dumb, and we're full of shit, and we willingly choose to believe people that are full of shit because...well...we want to! GOOD JOB AMERICA!!!

[Xville]

Yes. 98% of Americans loved Herschel Walker before he got into politics. We wouldn't have known or cared about any of the rest if he had just done some commercials, traded on his football fame and steered WAY clear of politics. The world would have one more hero.

To be fair, that didn't work for OJ :)

[xubrew]

Yes. 98% of Americans loved Herschel Walker before he got into politics. We wouldn't have known or cared about any of the rest if he had just done some commercials, traded on his football fame and steered WAY clear of politics. The world would have one more hero.

If you gave Herschel Walker a map of Georgia, and asked him to locate Georgia, I'm not entirely convinced he'd be able to. The guy is a box of rocks!! In fact, a box of rocks would probably do a better job in office than he would. And, to your point, I never thought this about him until he (or someone) decided to run for office.

[Masterofreality]

“Taxin’ Two Faced Tim Ryan, who’s the biggest Hypocrite (besides John Fedderman) in the Senate races says one thing to sound good, but does the exact opposite. Two faced on abortion, two faced on screwing over American workers and two faced on opioids.

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/tim-ryan-took-money-from-opioid-distributor-whose-executives-mocked-addicts-as-pillbillies/

“ The Associated Press reported earlier this month that opioid distributors donated at least $27,000 to Ryan’s political campaigns since 2007.

At the same time, the AP found, Ryan voted against bills meant to increase funding for anti-opioid initiatives, such as spending packages for addiction treatment. In a statement to the AP, Ryan’s campaign said one of the donors, Cardinal, is a large employer in Ohio.”

[bobbiemcgee]

If you gave Herschel Walker a map of Georgia, and asked him to locate Georgia, I'm not entirely convinced he'd be able to. The guy is a box of rocks!! In fact, a box of rocks would probably do a better job in office than he would. And, to your point, I never thought this about him until he (or someone) decided to run for office.

The ultimate irony would be if tommy tooterville went over there to campaign for him.

[Smails]

I cited many examples. Guess you didn't notice. Nice deflection calling me a drug addict and laughing about it. Made my point. You got played.

When did I call you a drug addict? I said you were flexing your 'weed muscles' by calling someone else a pussy. Quit making shit up.

[bobbiemcgee]

after referring to my dick. Are you an alchoholic? Flexing your "booze muscles"? Reading your posts you must be half-drunk all the time.

[xubrew]

I….I….He just said…..

Well we had a good run guys!! Between this, and Trump, and those who think the election was stolen (as if the Democrats could even pull off anything that’s half way that sophisticated), and Hershel Walker, and people who think the dinosaurs wore saddles…I think that the war is now over, and that the idiots have won. It’s been an honor serving with all of you!!

https://youtube.com/shorts/LE_AFhuHsew?feature=share

[XU_Lou]

after referring to my dick. Are you an alchoholic? Flexing your "booze muscles"? Reading your posts you must be half-drunk all the time.

Happy Columbus Day, Bobbie....

[XU_Lou]

Now wait just a second! Didn't Paul and Bobbie tell us ad nauseam that Biden didn't do anything to hurt the oil supply, and therefore gas prices? I guess Larry Summers didn't get that email.... or do Paul and Bobbie simply know more than Summers?

"we made a mistake by canceling the Keystone pipeline. We made a mistake by slowing down all kinds of permitting activity. We made a mistake by being hostile as a country to natural gas."

"We need a strategy that is balanced rather than an unbalanced strategy of total hostility to fossil fuels"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNs80ALmMhE&t=1861s

[X-band '01]

I wonder just how stupid the rest of the world thinks this country is. And...they're not wrong.

I really am curious what percentage of the adult population in this country would fail to answer 60% of the questions correctly on the naturalization test. I wonder what percentage of people running for office would fail to answer 60% of the questions correctly. For the first time in my life I'm starting to wonder if we'd be better off if voters had to take this test and score a 60 on it in order to be eligible, and if individuals running for office needed to score a 90 on it. The reason I never thought about this before is because I just assumed that virtually every adult living in this country would be able to do it, but now I think there is a substantial percentage that wouldn't be able to.

We're dumb, and we're full of shit, and we willingly choose to believe people that are full of shit because...well...we want to! GOOD JOB AMERICA!!!

Problem is, southern states used literacy tests and poll taxes (coupled with grandfather clauses to exempt white Southerners before 1863) to suppress black voters up until the Civil Rights Act and the 24th Amendment were passed.

[Masterofreality]

Two Faced Taxin’ Tim Ryan Part 2.

Tv Ad Tim: Culture Wars aren’t my thing.
Real Tim; “I’m all in on the Progressive Culture agenda.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/you-can-count-on-me-video-shows-tim-ryan-admitting-hes-avoiding-his-progressive-stances-on-culture-wars

“ Video footage obtained by The Daily Wire, however, suggests that Ryan is a staunch progressive who has been avoiding discussing the “culture wars” on the campaign trail because these issues “don’t serve us very well in Ohio.””

[Strange Brew]

I….I….He just said…..

Well we had a good run guys!! Between this, and Trump, and those who think the election was stolen (as if the Democrats could even pull off anything that’s half way that sophisticated), and Hershel Walker, and people who think the dinosaurs wore saddles…I think that the war is now over, and that the idiots have won. It’s been an honor serving with all of you!!

https://youtube.com/shorts/LE_AFhuHsew?feature=share

Congrats on your victory!

[Masterofreality]

From Level Headed Tulsi Gabbard, who absolutely took apart Kamala Harris on the debate stage-
" I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms, are……hostile to people of faith & spirituality, demonize the police & protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, believe in open borders, weaponize the national security state to go after political opponents, and above all, dragging us ever closer to nuclear war.
I believe in a government that is of, by, and for the people. Unfortunately, today’s Democratic Party does not. Instead, it stands for a government of, by, and for the powerful elite. I’m calling on my fellow common sense independent-minded Democrats to join me …in leaving the Democratic Party. If you can no longer stomach the direction that so-called woke Democratic Party ideologues are taking our country, I invite you to join me."

*Some on this Board should absolutely take the invitation.

[GoMuskies]

Is she joining Forward?

[xubrew]

From Level Headed Tulsi Gabbard, who absolutely took apart Kamala Harris on the debate stage-
" I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms, are……hostile to people of faith & spirituality, demonize the police & protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, believe in open borders, weaponize the national security state to go after political opponents, and above all, dragging us ever closer to nuclear war.
I believe in a government that is of, by, and for the people. Unfortunately, today’s Democratic Party does not. Instead, it stands for a government of, by, and for the powerful elite. I’m calling on my fellow common sense independent-minded Democrats to join me …in leaving the Democratic Party. If you can no longer stomach the direction that so-called woke Democratic Party ideologues are taking our country, I invite you to join me."

*Some on this Board should absolutely take the invitation.

I think this is MOSTLY fair.

Back as far as 20 years ago when I was still in college, I thought the most accurate embodiment of a Democrat was someone that drove around in a gas guzzling SUV with a "Save the Planet!" bumpersticker. I still feel that way today, but it's gone much much much MUCH farther. It doesn't look to me like the Democrats have ever actually cared for the people they claim to want to help them. Because...well...THEY DON'T! Maybe at one time they did, but they certainly haven't for the past several decades. They'll pretend to care, but they don't even do a good job of pretending. They come off as elitist dipshits. They'll grandstand for the sake of grandstanding, but they won't actually do anything beyond that. That's why people who like them initially as young first time voters turn away from them. That's why Trump won the election in 2016. That's why people hate them. I get it, but I don't think THEY do! The reason why factions of people dislike them so much should be obvious.

But having said that, I think Trump, and MAGA, are even MORE despicable. I get why people like them. I think it has a lot to do with them being angry and frustrated. They have reasons for being angry and frustrated. What I can't stand about MAGA is that they stoke that anger with complete and total bullshit. Whereas the Democrats are full of shit and have been for a while, Trump is OVERFLOWING with bullshit!! He's 100 lbs of bullshit in a 5 lb bag!

The election was not stolen. The only person that tried to steal it was him. He ACTUALLY tried to undermine the will of the American people! SEVERAL TIMES!! Trump/MAGA tried to pressure governors and secretaries to not certify elections, then tried to storm the capital to disrupt the certification of the election, and now people are running on the platform that the election was stolen. They're insinuating that if Trump doesn't win the next time, they'll once again attempt to undermine the will of the people. THAT SHOULD PISS EVERYONE OFF!!!

I don't like the Democrats either. But I like MAGA/GOP even less if that's how they're going to go about this. Trump didn't win the election. Far more people dislike him than like him. For years I thought it was insane that the Dems could not figure out why people didn't like them and voted against them. For the GOP to not understand why people do not like TRUMP is off the charts, mind-numbingly BATSHIT STUPID!! And now there is a movement within to openly undermine the results of legitimate elections if they don't win them. That should be a bridge too far for anyone who legitimately cares about this country's values.

[Smails]

after referring to my dick. Are you an alchoholic? Flexing your "booze muscles"? Reading your posts you must be half-drunk all the time.

The actual smear is 'beer muscles'. Be better.

Also, please stop making shit up, it's quite unbecoming. Please share the quote where I called you a drug addict (exact quote). I would also be interested in seeing the quote where I referred to your weenis. You should consider switching over to indica. It's quite a bit more relaxing than sativa. For the record, I'm not an alcoholic but do enjoy a cocktail from time to time. I appreciate your concern for my health and well-being..thanks!

[Masterofreality]

I think this is MOSTLY fair.

Back as far as 20 years ago when I was still in college, I thought the most accurate embodiment of a Democrat was someone that drove around in a gas guzzling SUV with a "Save the Planet!" bumpersticker. I still feel that way today, but it's gone much much much MUCH farther. It doesn't look to me like the Democrats have ever actually cared for the people they claim to want to help them. Because...well...THEY DON'T! Maybe at one time they did, but they certainly haven't for the past several decades. They'll pretend to care, but they don't even do a good job of pretending. They come off as elitist dipshits. They'll grandstand for the sake of grandstanding, but they won't actually do anything beyond that. That's why people who like them initially as young first time voters turn away from them. That's why Trump won the election in 2016. That's why people hate them. I get it, but I don't think THEY do! The reason why factions of people dislike them so much should be obvious.

But having said that, I think Trump, and MAGA, are even MORE despicable. I get why people like them. I think it has a lot to do with them being angry and frustrated. They have reasons for being angry and frustrated. What I can't stand about MAGA is that they stoke that anger with complete and total bullshit. Whereas the Democrats are full of shit and have been for a while, Trump is OVERFLOWING with bullshit!! He's 100 lbs of bullshit in a 5 lb bag!

The election was not stolen. The only person that tried to steal it was him. He ACTUALLY tried to undermine the will of the American people! SEVERAL TIMES!! Trump/MAGA tried to pressure governors and secretaries to not certify elections, then tried to storm the capital to disrupt the certification of the election, and now people are running on the platform that the election was stolen. They're insinuating that if Trump doesn't win the next time, they'll once again attempt to undermine the will of the people. THAT SHOULD PISS EVERYONE OFF!!!

I don't like the Democrats either. But I like MAGA/GOP even less if that's how they're going to go about this. Trump didn't win the election. Far more people dislike him than like him. For years I thought it was insane that the Dems could not figure out why people didn't like them and voted against them. For the GOP to not understand why people do not like TRUMP is off the charts, mind-numbingly BATSHIT STUPID!! And now there is a movement within to openly undermine the results of legitimate elections if they don't win them. That should be a bridge too far for anyone who legitimately cares about this country's values.

Mostly fair Smails. But with the exception of January 6, and I know some will say “what about ism” Al Gore & Dems still think 2000 was stolen, Barbara Boxer tried to decertify 2004 electors because of alleged “Ohio Diebold machines” , Hillary Clinton still says that 2016 was illegitimate, and Stacy Abrams still thinks she won Georgia’s Governorship.
This election denialism definitely goes both ways.
And I am convinced that January 6 was a result and revenge for the Destructive Riots and ridiculous civil disturbances of Summer 2020. It’s ok to attack a Federal building in Portland and injure agents but….

[paulxu]

Curiously, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton were adult enough to call their opponents to concede.


Nov 9, 2016 — “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said in her concession speech. “I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans ...


Just moments ago, I spoke with George W. Bush and congratulated him on becoming the 43rd president of the United States

[Strange Brew]

Curiously, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton were adult enough to call their opponents to concede.

And then proceeded to undermine the results thereafter. So their concessions were and are meaningless window dressing.

[xubrew]

And then proceeded to undermine the results thereafter. So their concessions were and are meaningless window dressing.

How so??

Hillary Clinton knew she lost. She didn't think she was going to lose. She was probably surprised when she did lose. But once it happened she knew that she didn't win. I'm even willing to get that while most Democrats STILL couldn't figure out how it had happened, she personally at least not only knew that she had lost, but she knew WHY.

She didn't spend the next two years holding rallies, and giving speeches, and tweeting about how the election had been stolen when it CLEARY had not been, nor did she try and put pressure on governors and state secretaries to not certify the results and then call them out as being traitors when they did certify the results, nor did she ever try to disrupt any of the processes to stop the transition of power. She actually just kind of went away.

[XU_Lou]

"today's Democrats don't believe in freedom"

- Tulsi Gabbard, today (like 5 minutes ago)

[Strange Brew]

How so??

Hillary Clinton knew she lost. She didn't think she was going to lose. She was probably surprised when she did lose. But once it happened she knew that she didn't win. I'm even willing to get that while most Democrats STILL couldn't figure out how it had happened, she personally at least not only knew that she had lost, but she knew WHY.

She didn't spend the next two years holding rallies, and giving speeches, and tweeting about how the election had been stolen when it CLEARY had not been, nor did she try and put pressure on governors and state secretaries to not certify the results and then call them out as being traitors when they did certify the results, nor did she ever try to disrupt any of the processes to stop the transition of power. She actually just kind of went away.

She went on media tours calling Trump illegitimate and blamed her loss on Russian interference. Which was nonsense.

[xubrew]

She went on media tours calling Trump illegitimate and blamed her loss on Russian interference. Which was nonsense.

I know of one interview where she said Trump wasn't a legitimate president, and I agree that it's nonsensical claim. But if Hillary Clinton farted, then Donald Trump absolutely, totally, and completely shat his pants. Multiple times. If you put how the two reacted after losing an election on opposite sides of the scale, the scale would absolutely break because of Donald Trump.

Metaphorically speaking, Trump has a real propensity to yell and scream about how someone farted, while he himself just takes a big rhinoceros-sized dump in his own pants. He accuses others (oftentimes falsely) of doing things that he himself does on an exponentially higher degree. That's one of the many reasons people don't like him.

[XU_Lou]

I know of one interview where she said Trump wasn't a legitimate president, and I agree that it's nonsensical claim. But if Hillary Clinton farted, then Donald Trump absolutely, totally, and completely shat his pants. Multiple times. If you put how the two reacted after losing an election on opposite sides of the scale, the scale would absolutely break because of Donald Trump.

Metaphorically speaking, Trump has a real propensity to yell and scream about how someone farted, while he himself just takes a big rhinoceros-sized dump in his own pants. He accuses others (oftentimes falsely) of doing things that he himself does on an exponentially higher degree. That's one of the many reasons people don't like him.

You obviously haven't been paying attention....

There are numerous Dems that said that Trump wasn't legit.

[Lamont Sanford]

I know of one interview where she said Trump wasn't a legitimate president, and I agree that it's nonsensical claim. But if Hillary Clinton farted, then Donald Trump absolutely, totally, and completely shat his pants. Multiple times. If you put how the two reacted after losing an election on opposite sides of the scale, the scale would absolutely break because of Donald Trump.

Metaphorically speaking, Trump has a real propensity to yell and scream about how someone farted, while he himself just takes a big rhinoceros-sized dump in his own pants. He accuses others (oftentimes falsely) of doing things that he himself does on an exponentially higher degree. That's one of the many reasons people don't like him.

Speaking of shitting your pants...how about the time FJB shit his pants before meeting with the Pope?!?

What brand of adult diapers does Sleepy Joe wear???

[xubrew]

You obviously haven't been paying attention....

There are numerous Dems that said that Trump wasn't legit.

Okay, speaking of paying attention, PAY ATTENTION!!

I was talking about Hillary specifically. I think that was pretty clear to those who were paying attention. I know some other Democrat peons have said that, and while that's total nonsense, they're just sad little peons. Thinking Trump was illiegitmate and not looking at their on sucktacularness as being a big reason why they lost is a big part of the problem with Democrats.
But having said that...NO ONE has taken it to anywhere near the extent that Trump/MAGA have for the last two years.

[Masterofreality]

I know of one interview where she said Trump wasn't a legitimate president, and I agree that it's nonsensical claim. But if Hillary Clinton farted, then Donald Trump absolutely, totally, and completely shat his pants. Multiple times. If you put how the two reacted after losing an election on opposite sides of the scale, the scale would absolutely break because of Donald Trump.

Metaphorically speaking, Trump has a real propensity to yell and scream about how someone farted, while he himself just takes a big rhinoceros-sized dump in his own pants. He accuses others (oftentimes falsely) of doing things that he himself does on an exponentially higher degree. That's one of the many reasons people don't like him.

“Hilarity” Clinton went on an entire book tour for “What Happened” where she repeated the “Illegitimate” claim at every stop.

[xubrew]

The base of The Left went complete batshit first. It was disappointing that so few people from that side were to see just how batshit they had gone, and that it went unchecked.

Then about five or six years ago, the base of The Right also went completely batshit. And it kept getting worse and worse and worse!! It’s not to a point to where it’s so delusional that many from that side come off needing to be institutionalized. Just look at some of the candidates and watch some of the rallies. This is even more disappointing because for most of my life, while I didn’t always agree with the GOP, I agreed with them enough to not feel insecure, and I never thought of them as not having any common sense. I now think they are just totally mental and overflowing with bullshit. It’s off the scales.

I’d feel better if the country wasn’t so batshit.

[Masterofreality]

Even the New York Times recognizes that Joe Biden is a serial liar, even through euphemisms.
But of course they still have to say something about somebody who’s out of office for almost 2 years.
Typical.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-new-york-times-bidens-a-serial-liar-but-trump/

[xubrew]

Even the New York Times recognizes that Joe Biden is a serial liar, even through euphemisms.
But of course they still have to say something about somebody who’s out of office for almost 2 years.
Typical.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-new-york-times-bidens-a-serial-liar-but-trump/

I really do wish the media wouldn't pay as much attention to Trump as they do. But he also seems to put himself in the spotlight as much as he can. In fact to get him out of the spotlight, he'd almost have to be dragged away from it, and if that were to happen he'd scratch and claw as much as he could to stay there.

But I'm totally fine with a change! So other than Trump who else you got?? The Right seems to be turning on anyone who simply wants to acknowledge reality (IE Liz Cheney of all people!). This is also new to The Right. The Left has been eating their own for decades!! But, now The Right is doing the same. I'd prefer someone from The Right who acknowledges reality. I hope that's not a disqualifier. When the base of your party is far more delusional than most UD fans, then you really need to do something about it.

[Strange Brew]

I really do wish the media wouldn't pay as much attention to Trump as they do. But he also seems to put himself in the spotlight as much as he can. In fact to get him out of the spotlight, he'd almost have to be dragged away from it, and if that were to happen he'd scratch and claw as much as he could to stay there.

But I'm totally fine with a change! So other than Trump who else you got?? The Right seems to be turning on anyone who simply wants to acknowledge reality (IE Liz Cheney of all people!). This is also new to The Right. The Left has been eating their own for decades!! But, now The Right is doing the same. I'd prefer someone from The Right who acknowledges reality. I hope that's not a disqualifier. When the base of your party is far more delusional than most UD fans, then you really need to do something about it.

Liz lost because she wasn’t representing her State. Instead she was boosting her own ego.

[XU_Lou]

Okay, speaking of paying attention, PAY ATTENTION!!

I was talking about Hillary specifically. I think that was pretty clear to those who were paying attention. I know some other Democrat peons have said that, and while that's total nonsense, they're just sad little peons. Thinking Trump was illiegitmate and not looking at their on sucktacularness as being a big reason why they lost is a big part of the problem with Democrats.
But having said that...NO ONE has taken it to anywhere near the extent that Trump/MAGA have for the last two years.

No shit, Frances, so was I....

Look thru this vid search for the multiple times she denied winning: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hillary+clinton+denying+trump +won

She still denies the fact to this day: https://www.google.com/search?q=hillary+clinton+denying+trump+won&oq=hillary+clinton+denying+trump+won&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l2.703j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Quit pretending YOUR side is a bunch an angels...

[xubrew]

No shit, Frances, so was I....

Look thru this vid search for the multiple times she denied winning: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hillary+clinton+denying+trump +won

She still denies the fact to this day: https://www.google.com/search?q=hillary+clinton+denying+trump+won&oq=hillary+clinton+denying+trump+won&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l2.703j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Quit pretending YOUR side is a bunch an angels...

I don't think the Dems are Angels. I think the base of The Right has gone completely batshit in the last six years, and it appears to be getting worse. For instance, six years ago there really weren't as batshit as you on the right. It just wasn't how right-leaning people were. Now it's kind of the norm. Now I don't expect you to understand that, but I'm hoping some of the other somewhat sane people on Team Red will.

[Strange Brew]

I don't think the Dems are Angels. I think the base of The Right has gone completely batshit in the last six years, and it appears to be getting worse. For instance, six years ago there really weren't as batshit as you on the right. It just wasn't how right-leaning people were. Now it's kind of the norm. Now I don't expect you to understand that, but I'm hoping some of the other somewhat sane people on Team Red will.

What do you consider to be bat sh..?

[XU_Lou]

What do you consider to be bat sh..?

Yes, exactly, what the hell are Republicans/MAGA wanting to do that has XUBREW going off the rails...

[Masterofreality]

By the way.
I thought JD Vance took Tim Ryan to the cleaners last night.
I don’t think Ryan is necessarily horrible, but when you claim you aren’t “beholding to anyone or any party” then vote 100% with your party the last 2 years through this madness, I believe you lie. Ryan, 20 years zero accomplishments.
Team Vance now.

[GoMuskies]

Vance is going to win Ohio
Warnock is going to win Georgia
Fetterdude is going to win Pennsylvania
Laxalt is going to win Nevada

50/50 tie will remain
Republicans will take the House with approximately 230 seats.

These are my election 2022 predictions.

[xubrew]

What do you consider to be bat sh..?


Yes, exactly, what the hell are Republicans/MAGA wanting to do that has XUBREW going off the rails...

Well, there's continuing to insist that the election was stolen when it wasn't, and then intentionally trying to disrupt the process of getting it certified, which included what we saw on Jan 6th. We hadn't really seen anything like that before. We've seen people on the left cry about losing, but that was The Left. The Right went from not having that as their MO to taking it to an historic extreme.

They've tried to chase off others on The Right who did nothing more other than accept the reality that the election was legitimate. That's a problem. Branding someone as a RINO simply because they acknowledged reality. Republicans would never crucify their own, and they especially wouldn't do it for simply acknowledging something factual. Now it's as if that if they don't like the facts, then they simply choose to dismiss them, and anyone who doesn't dismiss reality isn't loyal and is tossed aside. That's new. The Right never did that before.

There's candidates like Hershel Walker, and people who are actually in office like Marjorie Taylor Green. No GOP candidate has ever been that abrasive and that delusional EVER. At least not until six years ago. That simply wasn't who The Right was.

And now denying the election has actually become a platform. People are running on the premise that if elected, they will fight to overturn future elections if they don't like who wins. You just never saw anything like that before on The Right.

They don't like the FBI. Of all the organizations to suddenly turn against. That was never the case before.

Same with the Justice Department. The previous party of law and order seems to now be the party of lashing out against any sort of checks and balances.

The Right is different. It has created it's own reality that doesn't match up with ACTUAL reality. What's shocking is that they themselves can't see that. Or, maybe they can and choose not to. Or, maybe that's just human nature and it makes sense that they themselves can't see it. But, The Right is different. This all seemed to really get accelerated under Trump. If he goes to prison, or just goes away, maybe things will start to get back to normal.

[Masterofreality]

Liar to the Press Karine Jean-Pierre claims real disposable income is up and gas prices are down in todays Press Briefing.

In reality, real disposable income is LOWER than when Biden took office and gas prices are up 64%.

Threats to Democracy.

[XU_Lou]

Well, there's continuing to insist that the election was stolen when it wasn't, and then intentionally trying to disrupt the process of getting it certified, which included what we saw on Jan 6th. We hadn't really seen anything like that before. We've seen people on the left cry about losing, but that was The Left. The Right went from not having that as their MO to taking it to an historic extreme.

They've tried to chase off others on The Right who did nothing more other than accept the reality that the election was legitimate. That's a problem. Branding someone as a RINO simply because they acknowledged reality. Republicans would never crucify their own, and they especially wouldn't do it for simply acknowledging something factual. Now it's as if that if they don't like the facts, then they simply choose to dismiss them, and anyone who doesn't dismiss reality isn't loyal and is tossed aside. That's new. The Right never did that before.

There's candidates like Hershel Walker, and people who are actually in office like Marjorie Taylor Green. No GOP candidate has ever been that abrasive and that delusional EVER. At least not until six years ago. That simply wasn't who The Right was.

And now denying the election has actually become a platform. People are running on the premise that if elected, they will fight to overturn future elections if they don't like who wins. You just never saw anything like that before on The Right.

They don't like the FBI. Of all the organizations to suddenly turn against. That was never the case before.

Same with the Justice Department. The previous party of law and order seems to now be the party of lashing out against any sort of checks and balances.

The Right is different. It has created it's own reality that doesn't match up with ACTUAL reality. What's shocking is that they themselves can't see that. Or, maybe they can and choose not to. Or, maybe that's just human nature and it makes sense that they themselves can't see it. But, The Right is different. This all seemed to really get accelerated under Trump. If he goes to prison, or just goes away, maybe things will start to get back to normal.

Brew - you should probably educate yourself a little more on what's really going on, in addition to looking in the mirror. Other than that, there isn't much here...

Your obsession with Trump is getting quite nauseating... I'm starting to think you're going to start invoking Trump in comments in X game threads.

[bobbiemcgee]

Your obsession with Trump is getting quite nauseating...

Obsession? Don't think so. Are you too dumb to realize tRump still controls a vast majority of the republican party with the BIG LIE? Seriously, the asshole is still saying he won. Really? He sez everyone's a RHINO in the party that doesn't agree with his bs. So you got rhino's and election deniers making up the party. Sad. Which one are you? You have some disgraced cop Cowboy Clown about to win in Nevada who says he will change the election to the asshole's candidates no matter who wins. 300 election deniers on the ballot who want to do the same thing. One step closer to a Fascist state. Probably why "threats to Democracy" is now polling at #2 reason to vote.

[XU_Lou]

Obsession? Don't think so. Are you too dumb to realize tRump still controls a vast majority of the republican party with the BIG LIE? Seriously, the asshole is still saying he won. Really? He sez everyone's a RHINO in the party that doesn't agree with his bs. So you got rhino's and election deniers making up the party. Sad. Which one are you? You have some disgraced cop Cowboy Clown about to win in Nevada who says he will change the election to the asshole's candidates no matter who wins. 300 election deniers on the ballot who want to do the same thing. One step closer to a Fascist state. Probably why "threats to Democracy" is now polling at #2 reason to vote.

is this supposed to be a serious comment?

[XU_Lou]

To all of you who think America is doing the Lord's work in support of Ukraine, I urge you to watch this segment of the Joe Rogan Experience:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVXzwnU1H6U&t=845s

[GoMuskies]

Tulsi's JRE appearance just dropped. I know what I'll be listening to on the treadmill tonight. Not a huge Rogan guy, but I really enjoy it when he has interesting guests.

[X-band '01]

Vance is going to win Ohio
Warnock is going to win Georgia
Fetterdude is going to win Pennsylvania
Laxalt is going to win Nevada

50/50 tie will remain
Republicans will take the House with approximately 230 seats.

These are my election 2022 predictions.

I think the Republicans flip 1 seat (Nevada)
Democrats end up flipping 3 states - Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin
Meaning Warnock holds Georgia for the Ds and Budd keeps North Carolina in Republican hands

Also guessing the GOP flips the house, but only with a 10-seat majority

[X-band '01]

Another wildcard is the Utah senate seat - you've got a MAGA Republican running against independent Evan McMullin who would still caucus with Republicans but not nearly be as batshit crazy in the process. Also not an election denier like Lee or Ron Johnson.

[GoMuskies]

Vance is going to win Ohio by like 8 points. Johnson is more likely to lose than Vance, but he's polling ahead, which means he's likely to win. Apparently he was behind in 29 of 30 polls in his last Senate election (and still won, obviously).

[GoMuskies]

I suspect McMullin loses by 10 points in Utah. Pretty good for an independent, but people who claimed to support him in polls will either hold their nose and vote for Lee or stay away.

[bobbiemcgee]

Team Vance now.

When did you get on team Vance? You supported his opponent in the primary. He called trump "America;s Hitler" before kissing his ass. Trump laughed at him at the Youngstown rally. Guess you think if you beat your wife she should stay with you. Are you an election denier or a rhino?

[xuphan]

:popcorn:

[Masterofreality]

When did you get on team Vance? You supported his opponent in the primary. He called trump "America;s Hitler" before kissing his ass. Trump laughed at him at the Youngstown rally. Guess you think if you beat your wife she should stay with you. Are you an election denier or a rhino?

Yes, I supported Matt Dolan. The people spoke. Vance won the primary. Vance is solid and consistent in his positions. He didn’t like Trump personally but he did support his policies. Sooooo…
He beats Tim Ryan, who’s district has lost 50,000 jobs in Two Faced Tim’s 20 years in the House. He also lies (like most career pols)
Not hard to understand.

[Xuperman]

Biden now threatens the Saudis for recent cut in oil production. Says higher oil prices benefits Russian war effort.

How about this Joe, take the shackles off our domestic production and increase global supply!!!

No, F the ridiculous soaring energy prices for the American people and our allies. Go ahead and allow our enemies benefit from increased profits.

The "Greenies" have a really tight grip on his nut sack. What a dangerous buffoon.

[Masterofreality]

John Fetterman in Pennsylvania is literally Shotgun Frankenstein.
Sorry for his stroke, but this guy cannot process simple conversation. He should drop out for his health but he won't.
Even without his stroke, he's s charlatan and a racist. His tenure as mayor of Braddock, PA was horrifically inept. How anybody with any sense could vote for this guy is ludicrous.

https://nypost.com/2022/10/11/inside-braddock-pa-dying-town-john-fetterman-claims-he-saved/

[GoMuskies]

In PA, it's potted plant vs. snake oil salesman. Only sending our best!

[Muskie in dayton]

Biden now threatens the Saudis for recent cut in oil production. Says higher oil prices benefits Russian war.
So when does Biden’s impeachment come for this quid pro quo?

[Muskie in dayton]

In PA, it's potted plant vs. snake oil salesman. Only sending our best!
“Hold my beer”.
-Georgia

[Masterofreality]

From the Wall Street Journal this morning.
Biden’s latest lie:
“ Remember when the White House suggested, only weeks ago, that President Biden’s student-loan cancellation wouldn’t add much to the federal budget deficit this year? That turns out to be false. The Congressional Budget Office made that clear Tuesday in reporting that the write-off would cost some $426 billion and push the federal deficit to $1.4 trillion for all of fiscal 2022 that ended on Sept. 30.
As recently as May CBO said the deficit would come in at $1 trillion or so. Tax receipts have since come in $60 billion more than estimated. But outlays soared by $401 billion more. The budget gnomes note in their deathless prose that the increase “primarily stems from $426 billion in costs estimated and recorded by the Administration in September 2022 to reflect the long-term costs of certain forms of student debt relief.”

Just keep jacking that inflation up Brandon

Also in the Journal today from the same article:

“ Individual income taxes rose 29%, or $593 billion in fiscal 2022; payroll taxes by 13%, and corporate income taxes rose $53 billion, or 14%. Overall federal tax receipts rose 21% for the year to reach $4.9 trillion, by far the biggest tax haul ever. Nancy Pelosi thanks you, or at least she ought to.”

Kinda puts Paul’s assertion about the Trump tax cut bill into the lie category, Doesn’t it?
Receipts are fine. Just stop the stupid spending.

[paulxu]

In PA, it's potted plant vs. snake oil salesman. Only sending our best!

Whoa now. Are you suggesting green coffee bean extract is NOT going to help me reduce weight?

Can I get my money back?

[bjf123]

Whoa now. Are you suggesting green coffee bean extract is NOT going to help me reduce weight?

Can I get my money back?

You bought the green coffee bean extract? There’s your problem. You needed the organic coffee bean extract!


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[GoMuskies]

Whoa now. Are you suggesting green coffee bean extract is NOT going to help me reduce weight?

Can I get my money back?

I think Dr. Oz partnered with the Trump Organization on procesing refunds, so it shouldn't be a problem!

[paulxu]

I think Dr. Oz partnered with the Trump Organization on procesing refunds, so it shouldn't be a problem!

Well, that's comforting.

[bobbiemcgee]

John Fetterman in Pennsylvania is literally Shotgun Frankenstein.

New ad sez Oz killed 300 puppies in his lab. Who is Frankenstein?

[xuwillie]

New ad sez Oz killed 300 puppies in his lab. Who is Frankenstein?

I’d still go with fetterman. Both awful candidates but you can’t have someone in the senate that is incoherent well except Biden.

[bobbiemcgee]

Despicable liar Jones has to pay nearly 1 billion to Sandy Hook victims. Guess lou will have to his news elsewhere.

[94GRAD]

https://www.reuters.com/legal/jury-begins-third-day-deliberations-alex-jones-sandy-hook-defamation-trial-2022-10-12/

[GoMuskies]

I suspect Jones can't cover that nut.

[xubrew]

Alex Jones is now online saying he's filing for bankruptcy, and asking for people to donate money, and proclaiming that none of that money will go to the families, but rather to fight against the fraud. Such a sweet guy!!

Can his studio please be the first thing that the court makes him sell??

[GoMuskies]

I could definitely see him declaring bankruptcy Michael Scott style.

[xukeith]

Who pays close to a billion dollars ?

[UCGRAD4X]

New ad sez Oz killed 300 puppies in his lab. Who is Frankenstein?

He strangled them with his bare hands.

Must have read the Chinese cookbook, 300 ways to Wok a Dog.

There goes to puppy vote.

[bobbiemcgee]

I could definitely see him declaring bankruptcy Michael Scott style.

He's been siphoning millions from the company since he got sued. More than likely bk fraud.

[Masterofreality]

I’d still go with fetterman. Both awful candidates but you can’t have someone in the senate that is incoherent well except Biden.

Are you saying Fetterman is coherent? And not Oz, who is a legit medical doctor? A cardiothoracic surgeon?
Fetterman can’t put a sentence together.

By the way, Alex Jones deserves to pay a TRILLION dollars. Screw him. Another f-ed up media type. Never heard his “show”.

[XU_Lou]

More truth bombs from Tulsi Gabbard:

"It's all about themselves, their power, and their maintaining control, and that's the real threat to our democracy that they pose is that they don't believe in freedom of speech; they don't believe in freedom of thought; they don't believe in freedom of religion. All they believe in is you've got to buy into whatever they're selling at any given day."


"The danger of it is the people in charge of the Democratic Party, whether they actually hold positions or they just are influential in the Democratic Party, have created this cult-like atmosphere and fomented this fear. So much so that people who are really in a position to impact this, to stand up against and say 'hold on guys this is literally insane and needs to stop', they're too afraid to do so because of what the ramifications will be."


I challenge anyone to try disagree with any of this.....

[Xville]

More truth bombs from Tulsi Gabbard:

"It's all about themselves, their power, and their maintaining control, and that's the real threat to our democracy that they pose is that they don't believe in freedom of speech; they don't believe in freedom of thought; they don't believe in freedom of religion. All they believe in is you've got to buy into whatever they're selling at any given day."


"The danger of it is the people in charge of the Democratic Party, whether they actually hold positions or they just are influential in the Democratic Party, have created this cult-like atmosphere and fomented this fear. So much so that people who are really in a position to impact this, to stand up against and say 'hold on guys this is literally insane and needs to stop', they're too afraid to do so because of what the ramifications will be."


I challenge anyone to try disagree with any of this.....

Don’t disagree with most of it. The problem with politics today is you can insert Republican in place of democrat in the second paragraph and it still holds true.

[UCGRAD4X]

Is it fact that DHS Secretary Mayorkas got an email, hours before his presser condemning the 'whipping' of migrants by border patrol agents, that it was not true or that they obviously didn't bother to verify the information before Biden's*?

[Lamont Sanford]

Are you saying Fetterman is coherent? And not Oz, who is a legit medical doctor? A cardiothoracic surgeon?
Fetterman can’t put a sentence together.

By the way, Alex Jones deserves to pay a TRILLION dollars. Screw him. Another f-ed up media type. Never heard his “show”.

Fetterman is an ABSOLUTE joke of a candidate. Dude was a disaster when he was the mayor of Braddock, PA. He never showed up to work! I do love his casual attire though and wonder if he would potentially have to "suit up" if he wins the PA Senate race.

Dr. Oz is not perfect either, but he is clearly the more qualified candidate.

[xukeith]

CPI number higher this morning. Stock market down again.

[xuwillie]

Are you saying Fetterman is coherent? And not Oz, who is a legit medical doctor? A cardiothoracic surgeon?
Fetterman can’t put a sentence together.

By the way, Alex Jones deserves to pay a TRILLION dollars. Screw him. Another f-ed up media type. Never heard his “show”.

Meant Id still go with Dr OZ. He's obviously not great but Fetterman is a complete shitshow right now and honestly always has been. I think OZ will get nothing done but thats better than fettermans plans/goals, sad state PA is in

[bjf123]

Alex Jones is now online saying he's filing for bankruptcy, and asking for people to donate money, and proclaiming that none of that money will go to the families, but rather to fight against the fraud. Such a sweet guy!!

Can his studio please be the first thing that the court makes him sell??

I saw something online this morning saying that the type of verdict against Jones can’t be discharged via bankruptcy.


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[xubrew]

I saw something online this morning saying that the type of verdict against Jones can’t be discharged via bankruptcy.


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I think he can keep his home, but that's pretty much it. All the stuff inside his home is fair game. I'm also betting that if he makes any attempt at all to hide any money and is caught, he's going to prison for fraud. So hopefully this means that the country is finished with one of the most batshit crazy assholes that has ever existed in its history.

[XU_Lou]

From this video it looks like there's another vulnerability brewing for Democrats. AOC gets absolutely scorched during her town hall over her funding and support of Ukraine. Perhaps the rank and file Dems aren't as gung ho about war with Russia as the elites in the Dem Party and media would have you believe. Perhaps they're waking up to the lies told by them:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J18mj9ac28Q

[Xville]

While AOC is a whackjob and should be working in a bar instead of government, it's good to know you are cool with appeasement.

You are on the same side of the fence as Syria, Belarus, Nicaragua and North Korea. Good Company!

[noteggs]

Weird, Biden asked the Saudis to wait a month to cut its oil production. Wonder why? Anything interesting happening in November?

[GoMuskies]

Anything interesting happening in November?

College basketball season begins.

[noteggs]

College basketball season begins.

Wait, are you suggesting the Saudis aren’t big college basketball fans? Think you cracked the code lol.

[Smails]

College basketball season begins.

No..the answer is obviously Thanksgiving. Big day for the Saudis

[xubrew]

Wait, are you suggesting the Saudis aren’t big college basketball fans? Think you cracked the code lol.

If this is the case, then screw them and screw their oil!!

[X-band '01]

Weird, Biden asked the Saudis to wait a month to cut its oil production. Wonder why? Anything interesting happening in November?

Oh yeah, the World Cup is in November this year!

[noteggs]

If this is the case, then screw them and screw their oil!!

Indeed!

[noteggs]

Oh yeah, the World Cup is in November this year!

Ok, now we’re starting see the real truth! Seems like a global problem now.

[paulxu]

This guy seems to be a fan. Maybe he'll help Alex pay off some of the debt:


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhmYbp0Iv7rRJGfkSOHkvOV9xkltXmACVDYkMWG8l2nw2 qUf0HjE046bolqnFozA8yayW6_IeJL9aVTWcoCDnHT5g0reden jKc_TSDguf540n-vFG3jUU-djAQ_XxysBg8ltcGA-peJR_kgD-IE-W6ezYS7zAVAD0Aw46MFOCsDqptOFyAOXA

[Strange Brew]

This guy seems to be a fan. Maybe he'll help Alex pay off some of the debt:


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhmYbp0Iv7rRJGfkSOHkvOV9xkltXmACVDYkMWG8l2nw2 qUf0HjE046bolqnFozA8yayW6_IeJL9aVTWcoCDnHT5g0reden jKc_TSDguf540n-vFG3jUU-djAQ_XxysBg8ltcGA-peJR_kgD-IE-W6ezYS7zAVAD0Aw46MFOCsDqptOFyAOXA

Show of hands. Anyone besides Paul care about the Alex Jones nonsense?

[GoMuskies]

Not sure Vance is entirely wrong there. And Jones is a crazy POS.

[UCGRAD4X]

Show of hands. Anyone besides Paul care about the Alex Jones nonsense?

Didn't really know who Alex Jones was before this. Still don't really. Still don't care. Sounds like a broke asshole.

On the other hand, JD may be onto something.

[Xuperman]

Don’t disagree with most of it. The problem with politics today is you can insert Republican in place of democrat in the second paragraph and it still holds true.

You know 'Ville, there's a reckoning coming.

Yes, both political parties are polarized to the extreme.....and obviously most DC politicians are self serving frauds.

Here's the thing, voting Americans have a pretty good idea what their Party's agendas are, if they're paying attention at all. And these agendas could not be more contrast. One party seems to have cornered the market on traditional common sense values.

So, unfortunately the individual politicians mean little or nothing because they all are simply party "rubber stamps" with a pulse. It's the AMERICAN VOTER who is responsible for which extreme this Country becomes...because unfortunately compromise and governing somewhere in the middle is a thing off the past.

[Masterofreality]

Paul showing that he is for censorship. Very free.
Look both Maddow and Jones are POS idiots, but one of them just got hit with a verdict to pay over it. If censorship occurred, Justice would not have been done. Maddow spread conspiracy falsehoods all over the place and someday, like CNN & the Washington Post did vs Nicholas Sandman, she’ll go over the edge to. I trust the American public to be smart enough to judge what is BS and what is true and eventually bring painful penalties to the bullshitters.
28.6% of the Country thinks that the US is on the “wrong track” under Biden and this ludicrous Congress.
A reckoning is coming.
“I may not agree with what you say, but I’ll defend your right to say it”

BTW. Vance destroyed Ryan in the Monday night debate and the National Democratic Party has abandoned Ryan. But that is the crap that blue glasses Paul pulls out? Hahahaha. #GraspingAtStraws

[Masterofreality]

From Jessie O’Neill of the NY Post:

Just another lying day from this Disinfomation Administration.

“ Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas was told last year that there was no evidence Border Patrol agents had “whipped” or “strapped” Haitian migrants at the US-Mexico border — hours before he bolstered President Biden’s lies about the incident at a press conference.

A Sept. 24, 2021 email to Mayorkas from Marsha Espinosa, assistant secretary of DHS public affairs, highlighted an interview with the photographer who captured agents on horseback trying to corral migrants and block them from entering the US near Del Rio, Texas...

Lensman Paul Ratje had told an interviewer that he did not witness the agents harming the migrants, but Mayorkas did not contradict Biden’s false narrative as he stood next to him at the White House podium.”

[Xville]

You know 'Ville, there's a reckoning coming.

Yes, both political parties are polarized to the extreme.....and obviously most DC politicians are self serving frauds.

Here's the thing, voting Americans have a pretty good idea what their Party's agendas are, if they're paying attention at all. And these agendas could not be more contrast. One party seems to have cornered the market on traditional common sense values.

So, unfortunately the individual politicians mean little or nothing because they all are simply party "rubber stamps" with a pulse. It's the AMERICAN VOTER who is responsible for which extreme this Country becomes...because unfortunately compromise and governing somewhere in the middle is a thing off the past.

I think that's a pretty pessimistic view and I hope that you are wrong. The country as a whole needs to start voting for common sense moderates, and stop watching 24 hour news cycle crap

[bobbiemcgee]

Vance clearly lost the debate unless you get your news from Murdoch:

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/10/10/ohio-senate-debate.html

[Strange Brew]

Vance clearly lost the debate unless you get your news from Murdoch:

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/10/10/ohio-senate-debate.html

And what source is that?

[bobbiemcgee]

This guy seems to be a fan. Maybe he'll help Alex pay off some of the debt:


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhmYbp0Iv7rRJGfkSOHkvOV9xkltXmACVDYkMWG8l2nw2 qUf0HjE046bolqnFozA8yayW6_IeJL9aVTWcoCDnHT5g0reden jKc_TSDguf540n-vFG3jUU-djAQ_XxysBg8ltcGA-peJR_kgD-IE-W6ezYS7zAVAD0Aw46MFOCsDqptOFyAOXA

https://www.cleveland.com/darcy/2022/10/vance-vouches-for-alex-jones-darcy-cartoon.html

[Xville]

Literally arguing about which shitty politician is worse.. JD Vance is a psycho and flip flopper and Ryan has done nothing for 20 years---we should be more concerned that these are the two candidates to choose from, not about which crap politician I'm going to hold my nose for.

JD Vance's statement is effing stupid. Alex Jones is a POS, and Rachel Maddow is a POS...making a statement about which one is less of a POS is a complete waste of time and oxygen.

[xuwillie]

Couldn't agree more. Same in PA, GA and AZ. Just brutal but you have people on this board who still think their side has good candidates because of the D and R behind the name

[Masterofreality]

Vance clearly lost the debate unless you get your news from Murdoch:

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/10/10/ohio-senate-debate.html


And what source is that?

This pretty much explains it- from the Politicisusa own account:
Uh huh. A LIBERAL Perspective. (Eye roll)

PoliticusUSA (@politicususa)
PoliticusUSA. The official Instagram account of PoliticusUSA, the home of real liberal politics. Go to politicususa.com to learn more

[noteggs]

This pretty much explains it- from the Politicisusa own account:
Uh huh. A LIBERAL Perspective. (Eye roll)

PoliticusUSA (@politicususa)
PoliticusUSA. The official Instagram account of PoliticusUSA, the home of real liberal politics. Go to politicususa.com to learn more

Well he does seem to be a maddow fan. So there’s that.

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/10/11/rachel-maddow-alex-wagner-maga.html

[paulxu]

Maddow didn’t say that Trump and MAGA should be ignored but that they should be educated and inoculated against. Fascism doesn’t go away by ignoring it. Authoritarians are only defeated when they are outnumbered and pushed back against.

It's hard work.

[X-band '01]

It's comforting to know that Baghdad Bob is alive and well in this thread.

[xuphan]

DeSantis is spot on with this.

https://youtu.be/Ofgfo7RQmgU

[bobbiemcgee]

Surprised MOR didn't link this from his beloved WSJ;

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wall-street-journal-passes-sentence-on-trumps-dereliction-of-duty-on-jan-6/ar-AA12WXNb?ocid=U452DHP&li=BBnb7Kz


Even they say he's a crook.

[bjf123]

I think that's a pretty pessimistic view and I hope that you are wrong. The country as a whole needs to start voting for common sense moderates, and stop watching 24 hour news cycle crap

Unfortunately, common sense moderates stand very little chance of getting nominated by their respective parties. The successful candidates pander to the extremes of their party.


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[Masterofreality]

Surprised MOR didn't link this from his beloved WSJ;

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wall-street-journal-passes-sentence-on-trumps-dereliction-of-duty-on-jan-6/ar-AA12WXNb?ocid=U452DHP&li=BBnb7Kz

Even they say he's a crook.

Surprised that you never commented on Obama’s Dereliction of Duty for Benghazi (when he couldn’t be contacted for hours on end) or Biden’s current Dereliction of Duty as to the Southern Border.
January 6 was over a year & a half ago meanwhile the country has turned to trash
Keep up.

[xuwillie]

Surprised that you never commented on Obama’s Dereliction of Duty for Benghazi (when he couldn’t be contacted for hours on end) or Biden’s current Dereliction of Duty as to the Southern Border.
January 6 was over a year & a half ago meanwhile the country has turned to trash
Keep up.

The only issues that are in favor of the crazy far lefts are Jan 6 and Trump so its the only thing bobbie can talk about. Sadly it may be enough to still win a lot of these senate races.

[Masterofreality]

Just to let you know how Democrats like *Some on this board think:

FOX NEWS POLL: U.S moving away from Capitalism and more towards Socialism would be:

Good Thing: 32%
Bad Thing: 60%

Socialism: Good/Bad
Democrats: 53/35
Republicans: 14/83
Independents: 24/63

[xukeith]

Just to let you know how Democrats like *Some on this board think:

FOX NEWS POLL: U.S moving away from Capitalism and more towards Socialism would be:

Good Thing: 32%
Bad Thing: 60%

Socialism: Good/Bad
Democrats: 53/35
Republicans: 14/83
Independents: 24/63

The fact 14% of Republicans see Socialism as a good thing is quite concerning. Idiots?

[bobbiemcgee]

Surprised that you never commented on Obama’s Dereliction of Duty for Benghazi

Benghazi? Really? 10 years ago explored ad nauseum. Hillary testified, why not tRump?

[bobbiemcgee]

Just to let you know how Democrats like *Some on this board think:

[B] FOX NEWS POLL: U.S moving away from Capitalism and more towards Socialism would be:

You don't get your news from right wing Fox, so why would quote their stupid poll.

[bobbiemcgee]

The only issues that are in favor of the crazy far lefts are Jan 6 and Trump so its the only thing bobbie can talk about. Sadly it may be enough to still win a lot of these senate races.

Nah, I think Garland will indict on other issues soon;

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/10/merrick-garland-donald-trump-investigation-indictment/671683/

BTW, the republicans called their own WH party "Team Crazy".

[paulxu]

The big lie is working on Republicans. 6 out of 10 believe it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/poll-61-republicans-still-believe-biden-didnt-win-fair-square-2020-rcna49630

[Masterofreality]

Nike co-founder Phil Knight declares war on Democrats in Oregon
Knight has invested millions into Democrat Tina Kotek's opponents, and polls show a Republican lead.

Even Phil Knight thinks the Dems are Full of it.

[Masterofreality]

The big lie is working on Republicans. 6 out of 10 believe it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/poll-61-republicans-still-believe-biden-didnt-win-fair-square-2020-rcna49630

Still talking about Al Gore & Stacy Abrams, huh???

[Masterofreality]

Benghazi? Really? 10 years ago explored ad nauseum. Hillary testified, why not tRump?

Still talking about 2 years ago, really? While the country goes to trash?
I mentioned Obama, who no one still knows where he was, not Hilary. Obama was President.
Keep up.

[Masterofreality]

You don't get your news from right wing Fox, so why would quote their stupid poll.

If you look at polls across the board on Real Clear Politics, the Fox polls are actually more favorable to Democrats.

[bobbiemcgee]

Still talking about 2 years ago, really?

Everybody's talking about it. Turn on your TV. Even Fox. Sad that tRump's 14 page subpoena answer was just another rant on the Big Lie. Are you an election denier?

[Masterofreality]

Hey Bobbie.
You believe this poll from your Bible the New York Times?
Uh, NOBODY cares about 2 years ago. They’re just trying to keep their house heated.

NYT/Siena has Biden at 39% approve—with 58% disapprove, 45 percent “strongly” disapprove. Right-wrong track is 24-64. And “Roevember” isn’t materializing: 5% say abortion most important issue; women split D-R 47-47; independent women back GOP by 18 points.

[bobbiemcgee]

https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1581970287658422272/photo/1

[Smails]

It certainly doesn't look like this girl approves of the job he's doing. I honestly wonder if someone on his staff has the job of telling him how creepy this is and that's not a particularly good look. "Mr. President, our recent polling says that sniffing little girls' hair and giving them weird dating advice is not really playing well with your base....or anyone else for that fact"..

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1582050354258096133

[Masterofreality]

https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1581970287658422272/photo/1

“Dem strategist”.

Lefty’s can’t even Meme well. That’s pathetic

[bobbiemcgee]

Didn't watch the Beaver? Are you an election denier?

[X-band '01]

Nike co-founder Phil Knight declares war on Democrats in Oregon
Knight has invested millions into Democrat Tina Kotek's opponents, and polls show a Republican lead.

Even Phil Knight thinks the Dems are Full of it.

Oregon is a weird state this year. Their current governor Kate Brown is term-limited and very unpopular right now. They've got a Democrat and an Independent masquerading as a second Democrat that's splitting the vote in that race. It could very well be the first time Oregon has a Republican governor since the 1980s, and it also helps that the candidate isn't a Trumpy election denier, either.

[noteggs]

Ok I’m like the rest, polls are a bit obsolete and don’t mean a whole lot today. This one from Harvard Harris caught my eye for a few reasons.

They looked at what’s important to Republican and Democratic leaders vs what’s important to Americans.

1) amazing how the news cycles mimic each side of the political aisle. Of course, you see Fox covering Republican leadership issues and the rest of MSM the Democrats.

2) now I know why we still see a big amount of coverage devoted to J6. Odd because looks like there is a small amount of concern vs kitchen table issues.

Would like see how this compares to past political cycles. If I had to guess, not much different. Not commenting on popularity part.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1581648758378758144?s=42&t=wB3gqWdjZpeqRSKsRkKR7g

[bobbiemcgee]

It certainly doesn't look like this girl approves of the job he's doing. I honestly wonder if someone on his staff has the job of telling him how creepy this is and that's not a particularly good look. "Mr. President, our recent polling says that sniffing little girls' hair and giving them weird dating advice is not really playing well with your base....or anyone else for that fact"..

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1582050354258096133
Advice from the former dude:
" I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Just grab them by the p----"

[bobbiemcgee]

Nike co-founder Phil Knight declares war on Democrats in Oregon
Knight has invested millions into Democrat Tina Kotek's opponents, and polls show a Republican lead.

The dems have 62% of the statehouses so maybe they need a republican gov. Good luck getting anything passed.

[Masterofreality]

The walls are closing in. Those damn whistleblowers.
#BidenImpeachment2023

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-biden-aware-potentially-involved-hunters-crony-business-dealings-whistleblower?utm_campaign=later-linkinbio-foxnews&utm_content=later-30363798&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkin.bio

[Masterofreality]

The dems have 62% of the statehouses so maybe they need a republican gov. Good luck getting anything passed.

Portland is a shitshow and the people are finally sick of it.
Focus Bobbie.

[bobbiemcgee]

The walls are closing in. Those damn whistleblowers.
#BidenImpeachment2023

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-biden-aware-potentially-involved-hunters-crony-business-dealings-whistleblower?utm_campaign=later-linkinbio-foxnews&utm_content=later-30363798&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkin.bio

67 votes? Nope.

[Masterofreality]

67 votes? Nope.

Then why do you keep claiming Trump was “Impeached”?

[XU_Lou]

Portland is a shitshow and the people are finally sick of it.
Focus Bobbie.

Yup... poll proves it: https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2022/10/did-portland-protests-help-or-harm-rose-citys-reputation-and-race-relations-see-oregonianoregonlive-poll-results.html

[XU_Lou]

The walls are closing in. Those damn whistleblowers.
#BidenImpeachment2023

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-biden-aware-potentially-involved-hunters-crony-business-dealings-whistleblower?utm_campaign=later-linkinbio-foxnews&utm_content=later-30363798&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkin.bio

Yup.... Grassley knows the FBI has the goods on them: https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/17/grassley-to-fbi-we-know-you-have-impactful-voluminous-evidence-of-biden-family-corruption-so-come-clean/

FBI whistleblower also says that Biden family biz got $40 million from Russian oligarch: https://www.wnd.com/2022/10/biden-family-biz-got-40-million-russian-oligarch/

[bobbiemcgee]

Portland is a shitshow and the people are finally sick of it.
Focus Bobbie.

The Capitol was a shitshow. People are sick of it. can't fix stupid:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-disinformation/half-of-republicans-believe-false-accounts-of-deadly-u-s-capitol-riot-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN2BS0RZ

[Masterofreality]

2nd Ohio Senate debate, and JD Vance might be accused of murder.
Victim: Tim Ryan.
And one of Two Faced Tim’s biggest lies, one that he’s been pushing through ads, was totally debunked by Axios today.
Axios is most assuredly NOT a Republican mouthpiece.

“Vance's opponent, Rep. Tim Ryan, has tried harder than has Kelly to make venture capital an issue, including via a "San Francisco vulture capitalist" ad that he was asked about during a debate last week.

But Ryan couldn't stick the landing, insisting that Vance had "invested into China" without being able to name the company to which he was referring.
That's likely because Vance never backed a China-based company via his venture capital funds, per a review of the records.
Instead, Ryan apparently was referring to two companies on Vance's financial disclosure forms that source some equipment and/or products from China, both tied to Revolution's Rise of the Rest Seed Fund (which Vance joined in 2017 and left two years later to launch his own firm).
But that's a bit like saying an investment in Ford Motor Co. is "investing in China," because Ford sources some EV battery packs from Chinese suppliers. Moreover, one of the two investments was made by Revolution co-founder Steve Case before Vance even joined the firm, but got rolled into the fund as a contributed asset. The other is a Salt Lake City-based apparel maker that has around 22% of its products made in Shanghai and Tianjin factories (the investment was made shortly before Vance left Revolution).”

https://www.axios.com/2022/10/17/masters-and-vance-campaigns-not-defined-by-their-business-backgrounds

[bobbiemcgee]

Vance is a tRump mini-me. Thought you liked Dolan. flip=flop

[bobbiemcgee]

tRump slams Senate candidate "RINO"

"Joe O’Dea, the Republican nominee for US Senate from Colorado, fired back at Donald Trump on Monday after the former President slammed him as a “RINO” and suggested Trump’s supporters wouldn’t vote for a “stupid” person like O’Dea.

" O’Dea, the CEO of a Colorado construction company, didn’t walk away from the criticism he’s been leveling at Trump, including on Sunday when he told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” that he would “actively” campaign against Trump and for other GOP candidates if the former President runs again. O’Dea also told Bash that Trump should have done more to prevent the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

“I’m a construction guy, not a politician,” O’Dea said in his statement to CNN. “President Trump is entitled to his opinion but I’m my own man and I’ll call it like I see it
O'Dea has no chance now to unseat Bennett.
Guess he lost willie's vote

The failed former president responded on his teetering social media platform:

There’s this RINO character in the Great State of Colorado, Joe O’Dea, that is running against the incumbent Democrat for the United States Senate, who is having a good old time saying that he wants to “distance” himself from President Trump, and other slightly nasty things. MAGA doesn’t Vote for stupid people with big mouths. Good luck Joe!

No MAGA for Joe. So Sad.

[Masterofreality]

Vance is a tRump mini-me. Thought you liked Dolan. flip=flop

Dolan didn't win and now endorses Vance. So I guess that is a flip flop too?
How ludicrous are you?

[bobbiemcgee]

Dolan didn't win and now endorses Vance. So I guess that is a flip flop too?

yep.

[paulxu]

Hunter's company got $40 Million?
Child's play.
Jared scored $2 Billion.

[X-band '01]

Can we at least all agree that Herschel Walker had his best debate performance on Sunday?

[Masterofreality]

yep.

Amazing. Do you have a brain?

[Masterofreality]

Hunter's company got $40 Million?
Child's play.
Jared scored $2 Billion.

So where is the Indictment?
More importantly, where’s the oil? Biden still begs.
Let’s not even talk about the Clinton Foundation corruption

[Smails]

Advice from the former dude:
" I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Just grab them by the p----"

LOL...what does something the former President said 20+ years ago have to do with the fact that our current President can't seem to help himself from sniffing little girls' hair and whispering sweet nothings in their ears? Is your only response to Biden's greasy behavior to point to something Trump said decades ago? If so, that says a lot about you. I think what Trump said was completely inappropriate and foul. He makes my stomach turn as a person.

But again, I'm not sure what that has to do with Biden's pattern of hair smelling and shoulder rubbing of little girls. What are your actual thoughts on our CURRENT President's actions with that little girl?

[paulxu]

I would have thought that if Hunter was indictable that Barr would have done so.
And it sure looks like tax problems will eventually result in an indictment for him.

Maybe Joe could pardon him like Bannon got a pardon from the former president for suckering you guys with his Build the Wall grift.
That would almost be funny.

[xuwillie]

LOL...what does something the former President said 20+ years ago have to do with the fact that our current President can't seem to help himself from sniffing little girls' hair and whispering sweet nothings in their ears? Is your only response to Biden's greasy behavior to point to something Trump said decades ago? If so, that says a lot about you. I think what Trump said was completely inappropriate and foul. He makes my stomach turn as a person.

But again, I'm not sure what that has to do with Biden's pattern of hair smelling and shoulder rubbing of little girls. What are your actual thoughts on our CURRENT President's actions with that little girl?

Trump has bobbie and paul so messed up its quite comical. I still wonder who the 30% are that actually think biden is doing a good job.

[Masterofreality]

More “Two Faced Tim” Ryan.
This dude flip flops more than a fish on a deck.

For Democrats such as Ryan, who is running for Senate this November, appeasing those voters can often prove to be a liability down the road. When Donald Trump was president, Ryan attacked his trade agenda as "designed to inflict maximum damage on the U.S. economy, for minimal gain." Following Trump’s large margin of victory in Ohio in the 2020 presidential race, Ryan says he agreed with the former president’s tariffs and attempts to protect the nation’s domestic manufacturers.
Ryan’s flip-flopping on issues related to trade or whether the United States should ban gas-powered vehicles is hardly unique for office-seekers, even if it ultimately becomes the subject of attack ads. Many Democrats this cycle find themselves regretting taking far-left positions on defunding the police or dismantling the nation’s immigration system.

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/absolutely-tim-ryan-promised-investigation-into-whether-government-created-hiv-to-kill-black-people/

And It’s well documented the KGB promoted the conspiracy theory HIV was created by the US Army to kill African-Americans and Africans. The disinformation campaign was called “Operation INFEKTION”

Gullible politicians like Tim Ryan fell right into the trap. Not only is Ryan a hypocrite of the highest level, he is incredibly stupid

[Masterofreality]

Maybe Joe could pardon him like Bannon got a pardon from the former president for suckering you guys with his Build the Wall grift.
That would almost be funny.

Guess who has restarted the Wall building?? One guess Paul.
Paul refusing to acknowledge that Border Czar Kamala Harris has done nothing and her bosses’ immigration “policies’ are clownish.

Then there’s this. Nice attempt at a coverup, Brandon.

https://nypost.com/2022/10/17/white-house-urged-texas-officials-not-to-declare-migrant-emergency-sources/