Politics Thread

[XU_Lou]

Kyle Fucking Rittenhouse!!! National HERO bitches!!!!

[XU_Lou]

Q: What's the difference between Kyle Rittenhouse and the Covid vax?

A: Kyle’s shots are effective!

[Strange Brew]

Kyle Fucking Rittenhouse!!! National HERO bitches!!!!

Too much. Not helpful.

[noteggs]

Too much. Not helpful.

Ditto

[xubrew]

Kyle Fucking Rittenhouse!!! National HERO bitches!!!!


Too much. Not helpful.

Well, you just have to understand that There is a two-tiered justice system that is growing in this country. If you commit a crime as a Democrat or a BLM/Antifa activist, you get the book thrown at you. If you are a Conservative Republican, and commit a similar crime - or even a far worse crime, you walk free. There are dozens and dozens of examples. Free speech for Liberals and Democrats is rapidly declining in almost all walks of life. Again, I'm sorry you're not aware of this, but that likely speaks to your news sources.


If you think that sounds idiotic, you’re correct! The person I’m referencing is too far gone to ever realize he’s too far gone. Everyone else can see if, but he can’t.

[XU_Lou]

Well, you just have to understand that There is a two-tiered justice system that is growing in this country. If you commit a crime as a Democrat or a BLM/Antifa activist, you get the book thrown at you. If you are a Conservative Republican, and commit a similar crime - or even a far worse crime, you walk free. There are dozens and dozens of examples. Free speech for Liberals and Democrats is rapidly declining in almost all walks of life. Again, I'm sorry you're not aware of this, but that likely speaks to your news sources.


If you think that sounds idiotic, you’re correct! The person I’m referencing is too far gone to ever realize he’s too far gone. Everyone else can see if, but he can’t.

Oh, the arrogance of those that pretend to be in the middle....

[Masterofreality]

Well, you just have to understand that There is a two-tiered justice system that is growing in this country. If you commit a crime as a Democrat or a BLM/Antifa activist, you get the book thrown at you. If you are a Conservative Republican, and commit a similar crime - or even a far worse crime, you walk free. There are dozens and dozens of examples. Free speech for Liberals and Democrats is rapidly declining in almost all walks of life. Again, I'm sorry you're not aware of this, but that likely speaks to your news sources.

If you think that sounds idiotic, you’re correct! The person I’m referencing is too far gone to ever realize he’s too far gone. Everyone else can see if, but he can’t.

No Kenosha rioters, or Portland rioters or Chicago or Seattle or Cleveland or Atlanta rioters had “the book thrown at them”. In fact they were bailed out of jail by a fund promoted by Kamala Harris. Then never prosecuted afterward.
Amed Aubrey’s killers WILL have the book thrown at them, and deservedly so.

Kyle Rittenhouse’s case was zero about race- except for the jerks on CNN and MSNBC. 3 idiots, one a convicted child rapist, fomented a riot, played stupid games and 2 won the ultimate stupid prize. 1 got his arm shot up after stupidly pointing a gun. He won a lesser stupid prize then is given a forum on mainstream media to contradict his sworn testimony. Maybe he should be charged with perjury.
Antifa anarchists fomented a riot over police just doing their job against another felon who was a woman abuser,. The woman called the cops to protect her.

The justice system works. Not always perfectly, but better than anywhere else in the world. Period

[Xville]

Well, you just have to understand that There is a two-tiered justice system that is growing in this country. If you commit a crime as a Democrat or a BLM/Antifa activist, you get the book thrown at you. If you are a Conservative Republican, and commit a similar crime - or even a far worse crime, you walk free. There are dozens and dozens of examples. Free speech for Liberals and Democrats is rapidly declining in almost all walks of life. Again, I'm sorry you're not aware of this, but that likely speaks to your news sources.


If you think that sounds idiotic, you’re correct! The person I’m referencing is too far gone to ever realize he’s too far gone. Everyone else can see if, but he can’t.

I think it might even be sadder than that. It’s for attention. No one listens to him in real life except for maybe his fellow crazies so he comes to a college basketball message board to spout his nonsense to make himself feel better. Thrives on people reacting. It’s pretty classic signs of mental illness.

[paulxu]

No Kenosha rioters, or Portland rioters or Chicago or Seattle or Cleveland or Atlanta rioters had “the book thrown at them”.

??????

https://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/portland-man-sentenced-federal-prison-arson-during-protest-multnomah-county-justice

https://www.kptv.com/news/man-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison-for-role-in-2020-portland-riot/article_5775d31a-e8fb-11eb-bd4d-03122c8e6dae.html

https://ktvz.com/news/oregon-northwest/2021/06/14/portland-man-sentenced-to-5-years-for-setting-fire-during-protests/

[XU_Lou]

I think it might even be sadder than that. It’s for attention. No one listens to him in real life except for maybe his fellow crazies so he comes to a college basketball message board to spout his nonsense to make himself feel better. Thrives on people reacting. It’s pretty classic signs of mental illness.

Hey man, "fuck your Columbus"....

[Masterofreality]

??????

https://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/portland-man-sentenced-federal-prison-arson-during-protest-multnomah-county-justice

https://www.kptv.com/news/man-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison-for-role-in-2020-portland-riot/article_5775d31a-e8fb-11eb-bd4d-03122c8e6dae.html

https://ktvz.com/news/oregon-northwest/2021/06/14/portland-man-sentenced-to-5-years-for-setting-fire-during-protests/

?????????????

https://www.wsj.com/articles/almost-half-of-federal-cases-against-portland-rioters-have-been-dismissed-11618501979

https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/05/27/one-year-later-few-charges-for-the-arson-and-destruction/

I have no more time for this idiocy today.

[xubrew]

No Kenosha rioters, or Portland rioters or Chicago or Seattle or Cleveland or Atlanta rioters had “the book thrown at them”. In fact they were bailed out of jail by a fund promoted by Kamala Harris. Then never prosecuted afterward.
Amed Aubrey’s killers WILL have the book thrown at them, and deservedly so.

Kyle Rittenhouse’s case was zero about race- except for the jerks on CNN and MSNBC. 3 idiots, one a convicted child rapist, fomented a riot, played stupid games and 2 won the ultimate stupid prize. 1 got his arm shot up after stupidly pointing a gun. He won a lesser stupid prize then is given a forum on mainstream media to contradict his sworn testimony. Maybe he should be charged with perjury.
Antifa anarchists fomented a riot over police just doing their job against another felon who was a woman abuser,. The woman called the cops to protect her.

The justice system works. Not always perfectly, but better than anywhere else in the world. Period

MOR, just so we’re clear, I don’t think The Right is necessarily crazy. I don’t think The Left is necessarily crazy, and while we don’t always agree, I’ve never thought you yourself were certifiable.

I think that crazy people are crazy. I think HE’s crazy. I quoted him word for word, but just flipped it. It’s crazy. I know it’s crazy. I just wanted to point out…again…that he and other crazy people like him sound pretty much exactly the same as the crazy people on the left. They ARE the same. People that aren’t crazy are actually able to see that.

[XU_Lou]

MOR, just so we’re clear, I don’t think The Right is necessarily crazy. I don’t think The Left is necessarily crazy, and while we don’t always agree, I’ve never thought you yourself were certifiable.

I think that crazy people are crazy. I think HE’s crazy. I quoted him word for word, but just flipped it. It’s crazy. I know it’s crazy. I just wanted to point out…again…that he and other crazy people like him sound pretty much exactly the same as the crazy people on the left. They ARE the same. People that aren’t crazy are actually able to see that.

Calling me crazy while not disproving anything I said?? Who's the crazy one here?

[paulxu]

When you say "no Portland rioters" had the book throw at them, and I just google it and link the first three I find where they received prison sentences....just exactly how is that "no Portland rioters."

Didn't the links fit the narrative?

[Masterofreality]

MOR, just so we’re clear, I don’t think The Right is necessarily crazy. I don’t think The Left is necessarily crazy, and while we don’t always agree, I’ve never thought you yourself were certifiable.

I think that crazy people are crazy. I think HE’s crazy. I quoted him word for word, but just flipped it. It’s crazy. I know it’s crazy. I just wanted to point out…again…that he and other crazy people like him sound pretty much exactly the same as the crazy people on the left. They ARE the same. People that aren’t crazy are actually able to see that.

Gotcha Brother!! I now understand the context.

[XU_Lou]

When you say "no Portland rioters" had the book throw at them, and I just google it and link the first three I find where they received prison sentences....just exactly how is that "no Portland rioters."

Didn't the links fit the narrative?

Paul, how convenient that you passed over this (below now) from earlier.... what, this doesn't fit your narrative?

Yes, it appears that a few rioters have served time. But the vast majority got off scot free (see below). There were literally thousands of rioters that were responsible for destroying federal and state properties, private businesses, assaults, carrying weapons across state lines, and billions of dollars in damages.

For you, Brew and the other libs on this board who think there is an equal justice system:

* Do you recall the FBI breaking into homes in dawn raids to arrest any of the BLM/Antifa thugs?

* Where's the leniency shown to BLM/Antifa rioters for the Republicans who simply walked into the halls of Congress (41 months for trespassing, c'mon man!)?

* Were any of the BLM/Antifa rioters placed in solitary confinement for even just a day, let alone 10 months like those who were "exercising their free speech" on 1/6/21?

* Are any of the BLM/Antifa rioters on the Federal terror watch list, such as parents protesting CRT in schools apparently are?

* Will any of the BLM/Antifa rioters who got off scot free be referred to the DOJ - such as Rittenhouse may be?

* Were any of the perpetrators in the Russian hoax story hauled away during dawn raids and spent time in jail, such as those who were being framed?

* How many times has the FBI told us that white supremacist are the most dangerous groups in America, while ignoring what BLM/Antifa did to this country last summer (see above for a list of crimes).


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From the NYT: "Now, more than five months later, as Mr. Kaufmann’s case and those of thousands of others finally land in courts across the United States, a vast majority of cases against protesters are being dismissed."

"In the aftermath, prosecutors declined to pursue many of the cases because they concluded that the protesters were exercising their basic civil rights. Cases involving free speech or free assembly rarely succeed in court, according to prosecutors across the country"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/us/protests-lawsuits-arrests.html

From Politico: "Federal prosecutors’ show of leniency for some defendants charged in the long-running unrest in the streets of Portland could have an impact on similar criminal cases stemming from the Capitol riot, lawyers say."

"The arrangements — known as deferred resolution agreements — will leave the defendants with a clean criminal record if they stay out of trouble for a period of time"

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/14/portland-capitol-riot-cases-481346

"HUNDREDS of Black Lives Matter protesters who were arrested for looting, vandalising and rioting across New York have had their charges dropped": https://www.the-sun.com/news/3123181/hundreds-blm-rioters-looters-vandals-charges-dropped/

Charges against hundreds of NYC rioters, looters have been dropped: https://nypost.com/2021/06/20/hundreds-of-nyc-rioters-looters-have-charges-dropped/

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2021/10/06/felony-batter-charge-dropped-against-blm-protestor-jamie-bullock

https://www.thegazette.com/crime-courts/iowa-judge-tosses-nine-felony-charges-against-black-lives-matter-leader/

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/10/multnomah-county-da-declines-to-prosecute-70-of-portland-protest-cases.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/almost-half-of-federal-cases-against-portland-rioters-have-been-dismissed-11618501979

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909245646/review-of-federal-charges-in-portland-unrest-show-most-are-misdemeanors

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/investigations/george-floyd-protesters-arrests/

[Masterofreality]

When you say "no Portland rioters" had the book throw at them, and I just google it and link the first three I find where they received prison sentences....just exactly how is that "no Portland rioters."

Didn't the links fit the narrative?

Oh, I don’t know. I just decided to play by your side’s rules where everything is a total absolute.
One or two out of hundreds or even thousands qualifies as pretty much none in the way your insane side sees it.

[paulxu]

I don't play by those rules. I would hope you wouldn't either.

[Masterofreality]

I don't play by those rules. I would hope you wouldn't either.

You support those that do. Maybe rethink?

[Masterofreality]

Joe Biden: “I’m gonna shut down the virus”.
Wall Street Journal: “ The number of U.S. Covid-19 deaths recorded in 2021 has surpassed the toll in 2020, according to federal data and Johns Hopkins University.”

Biden was handed an effective vaccine by Trump and F-ed it up.
Let’s Go Brandon!!

[Strange Brew]

Joe Biden: “I’m gonna shut down the virus”.
Wall Street Journal: “ The number of U.S. Covid-19 deaths recorded in 2021 has surpassed the toll in 2020, according to federal data and Johns Hopkins University.”

Biden was handed an effective virus by Trump and F-ed it up.
Let’s Go Brandon!!

Isn’t it something we don’t get the daily/weekly casualty counts from the media with The Brander in charge?

[bobbiemcgee]

Joe Biden: “I’m gonna shut down the virus”.
Wall Street Journal: “ The number of U.S. Covid-19 deaths recorded in 2021 has surpassed the toll in 2020, according to federal data and Johns Hopkins University.”

Biden was handed an effective vaccine by Trump and F-ed it up.
Let’s Go Brandon!!

Well, if you don't want to get the vax....die.
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-covid-19-vaccination-rates/

[Strange Brew]

Well, if you don't want to get the vax....die.
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-covid-19-vaccination-rates/

The vax that is only here because Trump fast tracked it?

[paulxu]

Hadn't thought about it that way.
The reason people don't take the vaccine is because of Joe Biden. Interesting.

President Trump boasted “You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.

[Strange Brew]

Hadn't thought about it that way.
The reason people don't take the vaccine is because of Joe Biden. Interesting.

President Trump boasted “You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.

No Paul, that’s not why people don’t take it. They don’t take it for personal, medical, or other reasons. It has nothing to do with you or Brandon.

[paulxu]

Well, that'll cut down the effectiveness of any vaccine.

[XU_Lou]

Enes FREAKING Kanter!! You gotta love him! Check this tweet:

"Money over Morals for the “King” ��

Sad & disgusting how these athletes pretend they care about social justice

They really do “shut up & dribble” when Big Boss ���� says so

Did you educate yourself about the slave labor that made your shoes or is that not part of your research?"



Last night he wore shoes with images of Lebron James bowing before Xi Jinping - while playing against the Lakers:

https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2021/11/20/boston-celtics-player-plays-king-james-while-wearing-shoes-with-image-of-lebron-bowing-to-xi-n479178

Dude has Tu balls, and more!!

[Masterofreality]

Well, that'll cut down the effectiveness of any vaccine.

So does Kamala Harris saying “I wouldn’t take a vaccine developed under Trump”.
Hmmmm.

[X-man]

Isn’t it something we don’t get the daily/weekly casualty counts from the media with The Brander in charge?

Here's the daily data from the right wing rag, the Washington Post. Do they count as part of the media?
Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/?itid=hp_pandemic&state=US

Another daily count link in another right wing rag, the New York Times. Link: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

Brew, you need to get out more. :lol:

[Masterofreality]

I think Brew is referring to CNN.
That Jake Tapper counter sure disappeared

[paulxu]

So does Kamala Harris saying “I wouldn’t take a vaccine developed under Trump”.
Hmmmm.

She said she wouldn't trust just Trump's word...but rather medical professionals like Fauci when they would recommend it as being safe.

Can you blame her, after injecting disinfectants?

[bobbiemcgee]

Nick and Kyle may end up the de facto owners of CNN.

A mere pittance of what Eric Coomer will get with his 16 defamation suits against trump, fox, etc.,etc. Already settled with Newsmax. Then there is Dominion suit....

[Strange Brew]

A mere pittance of what Eric Coomer will get with his 16 defamation suits against trump, fox, etc.,etc. Already settled with Newsmax. Then there is Dominion suit....

What is your end goal Bobbie? What do you stand for?

[noteggs]

Meanwhile, the House just passed the biggest socialist bill in our history. Weird to hear press secretary say redistribution without using the word. The middle class taxes will stay the same yet someone making a million dollars will owe an extra $65,000 a year to pay for the damn thing.

Well most of it. Sounds like Biden hasn’t exactly been honest with the American people, as the bill will add to the debt according to the CBO. If passed by the Senate, it’s has yet to be seen how much this could prolong or exacerbate the inflation crisis. Some could say most Americans just got hit with a $200 a month tax bill with higher costs.

[Masterofreality]

She said she wouldn't trust just Trump's word...but rather medical professionals like Fauci when they would recommend it as being safe.

Can you blame her, after injecting disinfectants?

Which never happened. Just keep creating false narratives Buddy-.Just like that the Rittenhouse trial was about White Supremacy when the only people involved-except for the folks’ business that Rittenhouse was there to protect, a business owned by guys of color- were errrrr,,WHITE? P

[bobbiemcgee]

What is your end goal Bobbie? What do you stand for?

Truth, Justice and the American Way.

[waggy]

I'm sure this is racist white supremist, kyle rittenhouse, or trumps fault.

https://twitter.com/JodiHernandezTV/status/1462284757434175488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1462284757434175488%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonexaminer.com%2 Fnews%2F80-burglars-ransack-nordstrom-store-crowbars-weapons-scene-out-of-a-movie%3Futm_source%3Dmsnutm_medium%3Dreferralutm_c ampaign%3Dmsn_feed


https://twitter.com/i/status/1462284757434175488

[Masterofreality]

I'm sure this is racist white supremist, kyle rittenhouse, or trumps fault.

https://twitter.com/JodiHernandezTV/status/1462284757434175488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1462284757434175488%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonexaminer.com%2 Fnews%2F80-burglars-ransack-nordstrom-store-crowbars-weapons-scene-out-of-a-movie%3Futm_source%3Dmsnutm_medium%3Dreferralutm_c ampaign%3Dmsn_feed


https://twitter.com/i/status/1462284757434175488

Yes. Social workers and “counselors” instead of police will surely stop this activity.

[paulxu]

Which never happened.

Sometimes I just don't understand where you are coming from. Here are the vice-president's actual comments:

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/2020-vp-debate-kamala-harris-on-coronavirus-vaccine/

[Strange Brew]

Yes. Social workers and “counselors” instead of police will surely stop this activity.


Sometimes I just don't understand where you are coming from. Here are the vice-president's actual comments:

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/2020-vp-debate-kamala-harris-on-coronavirus-vaccine/

Jeez Paul, MOR was referencing your comment about injecting disinfectants.

[paulxu]

A bridge too far.....

https://thedispatch.com/p/why-we-are-leaving-fox-news

[bobbiemcgee]

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[Xville]

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[xuwillie]

Prayers have been answered!

If we are banning people Bobbie should be next. Had to deal with his shit for 5 years now

[Xville]

If we are banning people Bobbie should be next. Had to deal with his shit for 5 years now

Depends what he was banned for, of which I have no idea. Guessing it wasn’t due to a difference of opinion

[Masterofreality]

A bridge too far.....

https://thedispatch.com/p/why-we-are-leaving-fox-news

Now let’s see if they do the same thing about going on true racist Joy Reid’s MSNBC or idiotic and divisive Brian Stelter/Chris Cuomo’s CNN.
Those guys are not true conservatives.

[Masterofreality]

Jeez Paul, MOR was referencing your comment about injecting disinfectants.

Paul is thick…especially when he is called out.
How’s ya boi doin’ Paul? #DumpsterFire

[bjf123]

Now let’s see if they do the same thing about going on true racist Joy Reid’s MSNBC or idiotic and divisive Brian Stelter/Chris Cuomo’s CNN.
Those guys are not true conservatives.

I was wondering the same thing. Let’s see how strong their moral compass is.


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[paulxu]

Those guys are not true conservatives.

They started the conservative Dispatch. They've been on Fox as commentators since 2009.
And all of a sudden because they can't stand Tucker's lies...they're not "true" conservatives?
Good lord.

[bobbiemcgee]

If we are banning people Bobbie should be next.

Been on here almost 14 yrs. Why the last 5? Cuz I'm not a trump lover like you?

[bobbiemcgee]

They started the conservative Dispatch. They've been on Fox as commentators since 2009.
And all of a sudden because they can't stand Tucker's lies...they're not "true" conservatives?
Good lord.

You should realize by now if you don't agree with MOR's opinions, you are a RINO. But have to agree with Reid, she sucks.

[Strange Brew]

If we are banning people Bobbie should be next. Had to deal with his shit for 5 years now

Which mod banned him and why?

[Masterofreality]

They started the conservative Dispatch. They've been on Fox as commentators since 2009.
And all of a sudden because they can't stand Tucker's lies...they're not "true" conservatives?
Good lord.

There is a difference between grifters and conservatives. See “Lincoln Project”. (And they see the cash that the LP cretins raked in from you minions)
Good Lord, Paul.
BTW. Feel free to share some of Tucker’s “lies”. I can’t wait for this…

[Strange Brew]

They started the conservative Dispatch. They've been on Fox as commentators since 2009.
And all of a sudden because they can't stand Tucker's lies...they're not "true" conservatives?
Good lord.

Tucker isn’t a Conservative. That’s why this is troubling you.

[Xville]

There is a difference between grifters and conservatives. See “Lincoln Project”. (And they see the cash that the LP cretins raked in from you minions)
Good Lord, Paul.
BTW. Feel free to share some of Tucker’s “lies”. I can’t wait for this…

Tucker’s lies? Oh I dunno..every time he opens his mouth. He’s one of the biggest grifters on the planet along with his buddies at cnn, msnbc and all the other shock jock cable tv “news” commentators. They probably don’t believe half the shit they say, but they love the green, and there are a whole lot of idiots out there that buy their bs.

[Strange Brew]

Tucker’s lies? Oh I dunno..every time he opens his mouth. He’s one of the biggest grifters on the planet along with his buddies at cnn, msnbc and all the other shock jock cable tv “news” commentators. They probably don’t believe half the shit they say, but they love the green, and there are a whole lot of idiots out there that buy their bs.

Can we ban Ville or ask him to sit out a couple of plays? He provided zero evidence to back up this statement.

[Masterofreality]

Tucker’s lies? Oh I dunno..every time he opens his mouth. He’s one of the biggest grifters on the planet along with his buddies at cnn, msnbc and all the other shock jock cable tv “news” commentators. They probably don’t believe half the shit they say, but they love the green, and there are a whole lot of idiots out there that buy their bs.

Well..if you can’t point them out specifically…
(Note: I don’t watch any cable news show but get plenty of input from media critics. Reid, Cuomo and Stelter’s lies and misrepresentations are almost a daily feed. Carlson, not so much)

[Xville]

Can we ban Ville or ask him to sit out a couple of plays? He provided zero evidence to back up this statement?

How about you get banned for not knowing what our own Supreme Court does?

[Strange Brew]

How about you get banned for not knowing what our own Supreme Court does?

I know exactly what the role of the Court is. Not my problem you don’t.

[Xville]

Well..if you can’t point them out specifically…
(Note: I don’t watch any cable news show but get plenty of input from media critics. Reid, Cuomo and Stelter’s lies and misrepresentations are almost a daily feed. Carlson, not so much)

George Floyd died of an overdose. No he didn’t Tucker.

Meaningful voter fraud in Georgia. No there wasn’t tucker.

I could go on but you get the point.

He panders to his base just like a politician. He takes the truth, twists it to fit a certain narrative and people eat it up.

Lemon, and all the other nuts on the other side do the exact same thing. Is what it is unfortunately.

[Xville]

I know exactly what the role of the Court is. Not my problem you don’t.

No you certainly don’t and I’m sorry you are so upset that your boy got banned.

[Strange Brew]

No you certainly don’t and I’m sorry you are so upset that your boy got banned.

I do and Lou isn’t my boy. However he at least provides some backup for his assertions. You’ve been spinning angrily on this board since challenged by Lou and others. Which is not a sign of a good argument. Have you taken the time to read Article III of the Constitution yet?

[Xville]

I do and Lou isn’t my boy. However he at least provides some backup for his assertions. You’ve been spinning angrily on this board since challenged by Lou and others. Which is not a sign of a good argument. Have you taken the time to read Article III of the Constitution yet?

Have you accepted that the Supreme Court interprets the constitution? No? Ok. Who are these others? You and your boy lou?

[xuwillie]

Been on here almost 14 yrs. Why the last 5? Cuz I'm not a trump lover like you?

Not a trump fan but believed his policies where solid. You brought nothing but hatred and division. Should be banned if xulou was banned. Don’t see any difference, far left or right politics not a good discussion

[Strange Brew]

Have you accepted that the Supreme Court interprets the constitution? No? Ok.

Have you read Article III? No, ok.

No, why would I? It’s not what they are charged to do. They decide whether laws passed by Congress and disputes between the States violate the Rights granted by the(a) Creator to the People or the States.

You’re pretty jazzed about this. So I’ll ask. Have you ever read the Constitution yourself and not had it explained to you? You’d be surprised how much you think you know isn’t true.

[Xville]

Have you read Article III? No, ok.

No, why would I? It’s not what they are charged to do. They decide whether laws passed by Congress and disputes between the States violate the Rights granted by the(a) Creator to the People or the States.

You’re pretty jazzed about this. So I’ll ask. Have you ever read the Constitution yourself and not had it explained to you? You’d be surprised how much you think you know isn’t true.

It’s frightening you think that the Supreme Court doesn’t interpret the constitution.

[Strange Brew]

It’s frightening you think that the Supreme Court doesn’t interpret the constitution.

Don’t know why you find it frightening. It’s not scary to have your beliefs challenged. Just read the Constitution, then the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers, then throw in a bit of Bastiat, Hayek, Paine, Orwell, Thoreau amongst others and maybe you’ll be ready to discuss.

[Xville]

Don’t know why you find it frightening. It’s not scary to have your beliefs challenged. Just read the Constitution, the the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers, then throw in a bit of Bastiat, Hayek, Paine, Orwell, Thoreau amongst others and maybe you’ll be ready to discuss.

I don’t need to read any of that to know that the Supreme Court interprets the constitution. Maybe go to Washington DC, see if you can find one of the justices, and ask them if they interpret the constitution and maybe you’ll be ready to discuss.

[Strange Brew]

I don’t need to read any of that to know that the Supreme Court interprets the constitution.

Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

This is funny btw because you despairingly told me to read a book in another thread.

[Strange Brew]

I don’t need to read any of that to know that the Supreme Court interprets the constitution. Maybe go to Washington DC, see if you can find one of the justices, and ask them if they interpret the constitution and maybe you’ll be ready to discuss.

Pretty sure Thomas shares my view. Others may as well but a body politic has decided to use the Court to advance or create law they couldn’t achieve through the Legislature/Amendment process for ~100 years. All the while we The People cede power.

Again, just because we’ve accepted the Judicial acting in violation of checks and balances doesn’t mean we have to.

[Xville]

Pretty sure Thomas shares my view. Others may as well but a body politic has decided to use the Court to advance or create law they couldn’t achieve through the Legislature/Amendment process for ~100 years. All the while we The People cede power.

Again, just because we’ve accepted the Judicial acting in violation of checks and balances doesn’t mean we have to.

This is a completely separate argument.

[Strange Brew]

This is a completely separate argument.

Perhaps you’d like to reframe the argument?

Ville, I think you’re smart and so is Lou. However your arguments need more substance. I’ve been on this board since ‘08 and thought I knew what I was talking about but I was challenged big time by folks like X-Man, MOR and others which made me read everything for which I had the time. They made me better (esp X-Man on economics. Thanks teach! Wouldn’t have known the differences between the London and Austrian schools w/o you!).

[bobbiemcgee]

Not a trump fan but believed his policies where solid.

From your posts we see you are a anti-vaxxer hard line right winger like louie who hates everybody, so not surprised. You once said you were moving to Fla. Good. You know what they say about the door....

[Strange Brew]

From your posts we see you are a anti-vaxxer hard line right winger like louie who hates everybody, so not surprised. You once said you were moving to Fla. Good. You know what they say about the door....

Jeez, he said he liked the jerk’s policies. And no doubt he was a jerk.

But wow, Janice, check yourself.

[bobbiemcgee]

Read the whole post. Most all his posts here are shots at me bcuz I don't see things his way. Dumb. Just disagree like you do and move on. I'm pretty sure willie is LOU.

[Strange Brew]

Read the whole post. Most all his posts here are shots at me bcuz I don't see things his way. Dumb. Just disagree like you do and move on.

Bobbie, it would be helpful if you quoted something he said that you found objectionable. I don’t take your word for it. You and others banned a fellow Musketeer. I’d like to know why.

[bobbiemcgee]

You’re a Moron. just one of many.

Always with the name calling. Can't have an intelligent discussion. As for lou, omg, he called everyone on this board despicable names for months and months. My multiple post feature would overheat.

[Masterofreality]

George Floyd died of an overdose. No he didn’t Tucker.

Meaningful voter fraud in Georgia. No there wasn’t tucker.

I could go on but you get the point.

He panders to his base just like a politician. He takes the truth, twists it to fit a certain narrative and people eat it up.

Lemon, and all the other nuts on the other side do the exact same thing. Is what it is unfortunately.

Re Carlson’s “Lie” about George Floyd’s death: I don’t consider his statement a lie based upon the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s testimony in the Chauvin trial. To wit:
From KTSP.com
Dr Andrew Baker
Hennepin County Medical Examiner in his testimony in the Derrick Chauvin trial:
“Baker agrees with Attorney Nelson that Floyd's history of hypertension, heart disease and the drugs in his system played a role in his death.”
And:
“Nelson asked Baker about the statement the Hennepin County Attorney's Office put in the complaint. He said that he found no anatomical evidence of asphyxia.
"In terms of the placement of Mr. Chauvin's knee, would that anatomically cut off Mr. Floyd's airway?" Nelson asked.
"In my opinion, it would not," Baker answered.”
So. Drugs DID play a part and Chauvin’s knee did not asphyxiate. Lie? Hmmm.

Re: Tucker’s “Lie” about Georgia voter fraud:
Carlson apologized and issued a retraction on air about his initial report of “Dead People Voting” in Georgia. He issued that apology on November 14, 2020.
A misreporting? Yes. An apology & retraction issued? Yes also. He seems to own up to his mistakes.
Tell me the first time that CNN or MSNBC or most of the corporate media issue on air retractions and apologies. Say maybe about Russian Collusion & the Steele dossier that they pushed as true (looking at you Adam Schiff) for 2 years. That apology & retraction has never happened.
Try again.

[Strange Brew]

just one of many.

Always with the name calling. Can't have an intelligent discussion. As for lou, omg, he called everyone on this board despicable names for months and months. My multiple post feature would overheat.

Bobbie. Are you ok Marine?

[bobbiemcgee]

Bobbie. Are you ok Marine?

I was a Marine. What's your point?

[Strange Brew]

I was a Marine. What's your point?

I know. And I salute your service. Are you incapable of making an argument after being called a name? Some of your statements have been moronic but I don’t think you’re a moron.

I do think you’re incapable of making an argument to defend the current policies of President Biden. The last guy is gone.

[bobbiemcgee]

I know. And I salute your service. Are you incapable of making an argument after being called a name? Some of your statements have been moronic but I don’t think you’re a moron. .

Ditto.

[bobbiemcgee]

Happy Thanksgiving. Out.

[Strange Brew]

Ditto.

Cool beans. What Policy of the current President do you support?

[Strange Brew]

So this was fun.

I put it on you Mods. Do you stand for the 1st Amendment, the re-instatement of Lou and free trips to the salad bar?!?! This is America right? Right?

This aggression should not stand man!

[Xville]

Re Carlson’s “Lie” about George Floyd’s death: I don’t consider his statement a lie based upon the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s testimony in the Chauvin trial. To wit:
From KTSP.com
Dr Andrew Baker
Hennepin County Medical Examiner in his testimony in the Derrick Chauvin trial:
“Baker agrees with Attorney Nelson that Floyd's history of hypertension, heart disease and the drugs in his system played a role in his death.”
And:
“Nelson asked Baker about the statement the Hennepin County Attorney's Office put in the complaint. He said that he found no anatomical evidence of asphyxia.
"In terms of the placement of Mr. Chauvin's knee, would that anatomically cut off Mr. Floyd's airway?" Nelson asked.
"In my opinion, it would not," Baker answered.”
So. Drugs DID play a part and Chauvin’s knee did not asphyxiate. Lie? Hmmm.

Re: Tucker’s “Lie” about Georgia voter fraud:
Carlson apologized and issued a retraction on air about his initial report of “Dead People Voting” in Georgia. He issued that apology on November 14, 2020.
A misreporting? Yes. An apology & retraction issued? Yes also. He seems to own up to his mistakes.
Tell me the first time that CNN or MSNBC or most of the corporate media issue on air retractions and apologies. Say maybe about Russian Collusion & the Steele dossier that they pushed as true (looking at you Adam Schiff) for 2 years. That apology & retraction has never happened.
Try again.


Yea he lied because he said he died of an overdose, which isn’t true, and nothing you said above, disputes that. So now it’s ok to lie as long as you retract it? That’s not what we are talking about here. I do appreciate the mental gymnastics though.

Also, we aren’t talking about the other pundits. Trust me they are not any better, they do the same thing tucked does except for the other side. You will never see me defend them either.

Federal agents directly incited people on Jan 6th and intentionally entrapped American citizens


Jan 6th is being used as a pretext to strip millions of Americans of their constitutional rights

The green new deal came to Texas, the power grid in the state became completely reliant on windmills

[Masterofreality]

Yea he lied because he said he died of an overdose, which isn’t true, and nothing you said above, disputes that.

The Medical Examiner testified under oath that Floyd was not “asphyxiated” by Chauvins knee. The medical examiner testified Floyd had drugs in his system. And that they “contributed” to Floyd’s death. Uh, huh. That disputes your definition of a “Lie”. Drugs in somebody’s system causes deaths- especially Fentanyl, which was present. That’s called an overdose, no matter how you slice it. I’ll take a medical examiner’s statements under oath as more credible than a bunch of biased news reports covering for the preferred selected narrative.
I await your next attempt at bringing out Carlson’s lies. You know something that is opposite of your tunnel vision beliefs aren’t always lies, right? No matter how you try to twist it.

[Xville]

The Medical Examiner testified under oath that Floyd was not “asphyxiated” by Chauvins knee. The medical examiner testified Floyd had drugs in his system. And that they “contributed” to Floyd’s death. Uh, huh. That disputes your definition of a “Lie”. Drugs in somebody’s system causes deaths- especially Fentanyl, which was present. That’s called an overdose, no matter how you slice it. I’ll take a medical examiner’s statements under oath as more credible than a bunch of biased news reports covering for the preferred selected narrative.
I await your next attempt at bringing out Carlson’s lies. You know something that is opposite of your tunnel vision beliefs aren’t always lies, right? No matter how you try to twist it.

I already wrote more down. I don’t have tunnel vision beliefs. If I did, I’d just take everything that fox or cnn says as gospel or what politicians on one side or the other says as gospel.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/7317557002 Yes I know this is USA Today, but the information within it is accurate, or would you just like to ignore the fact that the autopsy was ruled a homicide, the same medical examiner that you quoted ruled it a homicide, and that dr. Tobin a pulmonologist said a healthy person who was subjected to what Floyd went thru would have died.

That’s three separate sources, yet you took one little thing that the medical examiner said, twisted it to fit your narrative to try to discredit the actual truth. Sounds like something our cable news pundits like to do

[paulxu]

Fox News’s Tucker Carlson admitted he sometimes lies when he is "really cornered or something" in a new interview with “The Rubin Report” published Sunday.

“I lie. If I'm really cornered or something, I lie. I really try not to. I try never to lie on TV. I just don't, you know, I don't like lying. I certainly do it, you know, out of weakness or whatever,” Carlson said.


In her decision, Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil cited arguments from Fox News’s lawyers contending that the "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary,'" according to NPR.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/572224-tucker-carlson-says-he-lies-on-show-when-im-really-cornered-or-something

[noteggs]

Found this article a couple weeks ago from Greenwald. Talks about Carlson and Maddow’s defamation lawsuits. Unfortunately we still have to figure out fact from fiction or facts vs opinion.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers

[Xville]

Found this article a couple weeks ago from Greenwald. Talks about Carlson and Maddow’s defamation lawsuits. Unfortunately we still have to figure out fact from fiction or facts vs opinion.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/a-court-ruled-rachel-maddows-viewers

To me, these kinds of cable news pundits need to be locked up and thrown away the key. All they do is cause division and spread extremism on both sides while lining their pocketbooks. They’re scum.

[MADXSTER]

I've always thought that there should be something in the upper left or right corner of the screen that says 'News' or 'Opinion' so as to clarify what is being presented. That way opinion cannot be expressed as news. Also would help against lawsuits which I think will become many.

[Muskie in dayton]

The key is just not watching cable news, or any mainstream news for that matter. Really MSM is worse because the Carlsons and Maddox’s don’t try to hide their bias. Speaking of which, the sources that told us Rittenhouse was a white supremacist and hunted down and killed blacks people are now telling us the Waukesha mass murder was unintentional.

[X-man]

The key is just not watching cable news, or any mainstream news for that matter. Really MSM is worse because the Carlsons and Maddox’s don’t try to hide their bias. Speaking of which, the sources that told us Rittenhouse was a white supremacist and hunted down and killed blacks people are now telling us the Waukesha mass murder was unintentional.

Example? None of the MSM that I read even remotely make such a suggestion.

[Xville]

Example? None of the MSM that I read even remotely make such a suggestion.

Yeah not seen one reference of that except by maybe the BLM org. Freakshow. Sounds like a Facebook story.

Update/ So I have now seen it reported by cbs news as a “crash” in the title which is at best misleading. So much of our media is such a joke.

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/waukesha-parade-crash-darrell-brooks-sixth-victim/

[Masterofreality]

Seems to me that pushing a false story about collusion that was 100% designed to undermine a sitting President and cause an Impeachment and reverse a free and fair election plus squashing a true story about Hunter Biden-A Presidential Candidate’s & “The Big Guy’s” son- that directly implicates undue Chinese influence, PLUS squashing a story about Eric Swalwell, a member of the House Intelligence Committee sleeping with a verified Chinese spy (Maddow) (Tapper) might be a little more dangerous to democracy than whether a guy “akshually” died of fentanyl in his system (when he ACTUALLY had fentanyl in his system) (Carlson)
But that’s just me.
Happy Thanksgiving.

[Xville]

Seems to me that pushing a false story about collusion that was 100% designed to undermine a sitting President and cause an Impeachment and reverse a free and fair election plus squashing a true story about Hunter Biden-A Presidential Candidate’s & “The Big Guy’s” son- that directly implicates undue Chinese influence, PLUS squashing a story about Eric Swalwell, a member of the House Intelligence Committee sleeping with a verified Chinese spy (Maddow) (Tapper) might be a little more dangerous to democracy than whether a guy “akshually” died of fentanyl in his system (when he ACTUALLY had fentanyl in his system) (Carlson)
But that’s just me.
Happy Thanksgiving.

In other words, "sorry, you're right, I was wrong."

Never did I say any of the above didn't happen nor did I ever say that only one side of the aisle lies their ass off. They both do.

Reminder that this started because you asked for Tucker's lies of which there are plenty.

[Masterofreality]

In other words, "sorry, you're right, I was wrong."

Never did I say any of the above didn't happen nor did I ever say that only one side of the aisle lies their ass off. They both do.

Reminder that this started because you asked for Tucker's lies of which there are plenty.

Not at all what I said but if you are so narcissistic that you feel the need to take a solo victory lap, go for it. No one’s watching.
All we’ve heard for the previous 4 years was “Threats to democracy” from “progressives”. Seems as if Carlson documents those threats more accurately than Maddow, Tapper, Stelter, Reid etc. And the ratings show it.
Have your fun, man. (Shoulder shrug)

[Xville]

Not at all what I said but if you are so narcissistic that you feel the need to take a solo victory lap, go for it. No one’s watching.
All we’ve heard for the previous 4 years was “Threats to democracy” from “progressives”. Seems as if Carlson documents those threats more accurately than Maddow, Tapper, Stelter, Reid etc. And the ratings show it.
Have your fun, man. (Shoulder shrug)

Not narcissistic, I just find it incredibly annoying when people can’t admit they are wrong, even when proven wrong, just like you have several times.

[Masterofreality]

Not narcissistic, I just find it incredibly annoying when people can’t admit they are wrong, even when proven wrong, just like you have several times.

Thanks Mr. low self esteem. I haven’t been wrong.
Give me some more of “Tucker’s lies” please. Lies that are threats to the Republic.

[Xville]

Thanks Mr. low self esteem. I haven’t been wrong.
Give me some more of “Tucker’s lies” please. Lies that are threats to the Republic.

So now you are moving goalposts? Awesome Mr. Sg around the green.

Already gave you one lie that you tried to discredit, I have given more. Threaten the republic? Take a look at that awesome documentary.

For context:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlsons-jan-6-documentary-so-you-dont-have-to-2021-11%3famp

“And the ratings show it…” —are you that ignorant or just being obtuse? It’s been proven millions of times that the opposite “news source” will have higher ratings than the one that is in power. It’s common sense. Also, who cares? It’s all garbage.

[Masterofreality]

So now you are moving goalposts? Awesome Mr. Sg around the green.

Nope. Your scratching and clawing to make a point is ponderous. Three putt much?
And I am good around the greens. That’s why I had a 4 year Scholarship to Xavier and was Captain. Thank you.

[Xville]

Nope. Your scratching and clawing to make a point is ponderous. Three putt much?
And I am good around the greens. That’s why I had a 4 year Scholarship to Xavier and was Captain. Thank you.

Yet you had no clue what the metric sg around the green was? Interesting

[Masterofreality]

Yet you had no clue what the metric sg around the green was? Interesting

Shots gained. Idiot
Kokrak won. Mr. expert
Talk about moving, errrrrr, something?

[Xville]

Shots gained. Idiot
Kokrak won. Mr. expert
Talk about moving, errrrrr, something?

How convenient you forget what that discussion was from. Good Day.

[Masterofreality]

How convenient you forget what that discussion was from. Good Day.

How convenient that you just throw in non sequiters to distract from your lack of persuasion.

[bobbiemcgee]

Give me some more of “Tucker’s lies” please. Lies that are threats to the Republic.

Ok:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=tucker-carlson

[Xville]

How convenient that you just throw in non sequiters to distract from your lack of persuasion.

Not my problem that you can’t be persuaded by facts when they don’t suit you. And it’s not a non sequitur, it is exposing a pattern of behavior from you.

[Masterofreality]

Not my problem that you can’t be persuaded by facts when they don’t suit you. And it’s not a non sequitur, it is exposing a pattern of behavior from you.

Hahahahahahahahahaha. #Facts
I gave you sworn testimony. You cited “sources” that have a displayed bias like Gannett. Ever read the Enamaquirer other than Adam Baum? Pretty clear.
Yes. You have a problem my man. Seek professional help.

[Xville]

Hahahahahahahahahaha. #Facts
I gave you sworn testimony. You cited “sources” that have a displayed bias like Gannett. Ever read the Enamaquirer other than Adam Baum? Pretty clear.
Yes. You have a problem my man. Seek professional help.

Did you actually read the article? Guessing you didn’t. Go back and read it or don’t…I’ll just once again outline the guts. These aren’t biased or twisted statements..they are facts:

Fact: that same medical examiner you quoted… ruled the case a homicide

Fact: the independent autopsy ruled it a homicide

Fact: dr. Tobin, a pulmonologist, gave sworn testimony during the trial that stated any healthy person would have died under what Floyd went thru due to chauvin.

Homicide definition: one human being causes the death of another.

So, no not drug overdose.

Try again bud. Maybe you are the one that needs the help in admitting when you’re wrong.

[Masterofreality]

Did you actually read the article? Guessing you didn’t. Go back and read it or don’t…I’ll just once again outline the guts. These aren’t biased or twisted statements..they are facts:

Fact: that same medical examiner you quoted… ruled the case a homicide

Fact: the independent autopsy ruled it a homicide

Fact: dr. Tobin, a pulmonologist, gave sworn testimony during the trial that stated any healthy person would have died under what Floyd went thru due to chauvin.

Homicide definition: one human being causes the death of another.

So, no not drug overdose.

Try again bud. Maybe you are the one that needs the help in admitting when you’re wrong.

Unhealthy obsession, defined.

[Xville]

Unhealthy obsession, defined.

Gaslight all you want. Just calling you on your bs.

[Muskie in dayton]

Ok:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=tucker-carlson
Lol. Using politifact to check Carlson is like asking Biden if he approves of his performance as POTUS.

[Masterofreality]

Gaslight all you want. Just calling you on your bs.

If you can’t see a politically motivated medical ruling in a city that was trying to defund the police, and has paid dearly for it in additional damage, you’re beyond help.
Although I still wish you would seek it for your unhealthy obsession.

[Xville]

If you can’t see a politically motivated medical ruling in a city that was trying to defund the police, and has paid dearly for it in additional damage, you’re beyond help.
Although I still wish you would seek it for your unhealthy obsession.

Mor’s reaction to being proven wrong——I’m not wrong, it’s all a conspiracy. Got it! You should change your screen name unless you mean it to be ironic.

[Strange Brew]

Mor’s reaction to being proven wrong——I’m not wrong, it’s all a conspiracy. Got it! You should change your screen name unless you mean it to be ironic.

Now THIS is ironic.

[X-man]

Mor’s reaction to being proven wrong——I’m not wrong, it’s all a conspiracy. Got it! You should change your screen name unless you mean it to be ironic.

Plus remember this about MOR...if the press ever reports anything that he doesn't agree with, the press is politically motivated, part of a conspiracy against the truth, or just plain incompetent. As you correctly note, MOR is never wrong about anything (other than (perhaps) Travis Steele).

[Masterofreality]

Mor’s reaction to being proven wrong——I’m not wrong, it’s all a conspiracy. Got it! You should change your screen name unless you mean it to be ironic.

Please seek professional help for your Narcisissistic and Egomaniacal condition.
As many psychologists have said, those with those issues need to have the last word and to always be in control . It's also possible for narcissists to shift this need for superiority to something negative. If they are experiencing difficulties or feel emotionally wounded, their situation suddenly becomes the worst. The fact that you are hanging on my every response and feel the need to respond within minutes shows how damaged you are.

I’m allowing you to have the last word and control whatever you think you need to control here. I am not in the wrong. I cited trial testimony that I’m sure Carlson read too. I don’t watch Carlson but from what I read I find him to be much more correct on many topics than those nuts on CNN (who are fixated with watching what is said on Fox News), and MSNBC. I am done on this topic here, but not from this overall thread.
It’s all yours. You need to move on from your unhealthy fixation and stop being blinded by narratives. Good luck.

[Xville]

Please seek professional help for your Narcisissistic and Egomaniacal condition.
As many psychologists have said, those with those issues need to have the last word and to always be in control . It's also possible for narcissists to shift this need for superiority to something negative. If they are experiencing difficulties or feel emotionally wounded, their situation suddenly becomes the worst. The fact that you are hanging on my every response and feel the need to respond within minutes shows how damaged you are.

I’m allowing you to have the last word and control whatever you think you need to control here. I am not in the wrong. I cited trial testimony that I’m sure Carlson read too. I don’t watch Carlson but from what I read I find him to be much more correct on many topics than those nuts on CNN (who are fixated with watching what is said on Fox News), and MSNBC. I am done on this topic here, but not from this overall thread.
It’s all yours. You need to move on from your unhealthy fixation and stop being blinded by narratives. Good luck.

Yet you keep responding and again try to gaslight. You’re a joke bud. You keep comparing Tucker and cnn as if that is something I was doing. Talk about fixation.

Why do you even post in this thread? We already know your position on everything:

Step one:

Event happens

Step two:

MOR waits for republican response to see how he is supposed to think

Step three:

Receives response, finds something to link that coincides with position without any critical thinking skills, and then shouts at everyone on this thread he fundamentally disagrees with.

Step four:

Is proven incorrect but uses “conspiracy” or “narrative” or a new one attacks character because he has no other leg to stand on.

Rinse and repeat. Hell you even took a pretty widely praised and supported bipartisan bill and tried to slant it as Biden and the dems did nothing and the republicans should be absolutely praised.

Back to your posting about every time Biden takes a dump, the same crap you bitched to Paul and Bobbie about for 4 years when they posted about trump every waking hour of the day. Yippee

[bobbiemcgee]

Lol. Using politifact to check Carlson ...

"Carlson fact check" on Google produces 32m responses, so take your pick.

[Muskie in dayton]

Glen Greenwald blew the cover on the Feds role in 1/6 two months ago, so Tucker is not exactly breaking new ground here.

[Muskie in dayton]

I'm posting this in the Politics Thread vs. the COVID thread, because it's more about COVID policy...

In the last quarter of a year, the US has seen over 107K all-cause excess deaths in seniors age 65+. Compare this to the same period in 2020 when the US saw over 58K excess deaths for that same age cohort. A year-over-year increase of 85%. In 2020, 0% of that group were vaccinated. This year over 98% have now received at least one shot.

One (or a combination) of these things is happening:
1) The vaccines aren't working.
2) The vaccines are causing the increased all-cause mortality.
3) These deaths are attributable to COVID response (lockdowns, induced fear, etc.).
4) Some other explanation?

Thoughts?

[XU_Lou]

I can say the weather on Elba is quite nice this time of year.

[paulxu]

Would be interesting if you could provide a link.
Here is a graph from the CDC showing exactly the opposite.
Go to the link below, go down a bit, and select the "weekly number of deaths by age."
Then select "update dashboard."
(Scroll down a bit for the graphs)
Deaths of older people were dramatically higher than the 6 year baseline, for 2020 in the last quarter. (Red line)
They are almost back to the norm. (Orange line)
I would note that this quarter is not yet over yet for 2021.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

[bobbiemcgee]

Glen Greenwald blew the cover on the Feds role in 1/6 two months ago, so Tucker is not exactly breaking new ground here.

Daily Beast called him “a practitioner of manufactured controversy” for Fox news. Probably why the "story" gained no traction, except, of course with trump supporters.

[Muskie in dayton]

Would be interesting if you could provide a link.
Here is a graph from the CDC showing exactly the opposite.
Go to the link below, go down a bit, and select the "weekly number of deaths by age."
Then select "update dashboard."
(Scroll down a bit for the graphs)
Deaths of older people were dramatically higher than the 6 year baseline, for 2020 in the last quarter. (Red line)

They are almost back to the norm. (Orange line)
I would note that this quarter is not yet over yet for 2021.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

The CDC is the source, but I'm referring to deaths from all causes (not just Covid). In your dataset, select "excess deaths with and without COVID-19" and check just the age 65+ bands and you'll see the big increase from 2020 the last ~15 weeks. It's true especially for 65-74 and 75-84. Remember too the death data lag, so those last few weeks that seem to show a drop-off will increase.

[paulxu]

In all the selections I make, excess deaths are down versus last year in the elderly.
Not sure how you are getting what you refer to.

[Muskie in dayton]

In all the selections I make, excess deaths are down versus last year in the elderly.
Not sure how you are getting what you refer to.
So when you take the steps I list above, you don't see the marked increase in all cause excess deaths in 2021 vs 2020 (and prior years) from weeks 32 though 43?

[STL_XUfan]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/01/wta-suspends-tournaments-china-peng-shuai-tennis

Wow, great for the WTA. I didn’t think they would have the guts to do it, but good on them for showing more balls than the rest of the pro sports leagues. Happy to see someone risk sacrificing profit in the name of doing what is right.

[Strange Brew]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/01/wta-suspends-tournaments-china-peng-shuai-tennis

Wow, great for the WTA. I didn’t think they would have the guts to do it, but good on them for showing more balls than the rest of the pro sports leagues. Happy to see someone risk sacrificing profit in the name of doing what is right.

In related news, Lebron threw himself on the ground in agony in the hope of getting an offensive foul called on the WTA.

Well done WTA.

[94GRAD]

In related news, Lebron threw himself on the ground in agony in the hope of getting an offensive foul called on the WTA.

Well done WTA.

I'm old and out of touch. Can you please explain this?

[Strange Brew]

I'm old and out of touch. Can you please explain this?

Bron, Bron and the NBA love ‘em some China for fat cash. Bron is a big fan of speaking on social issues but is silent about China.

[GoMuskies]

https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/72/764/10764072.png?width=600&fit=bounds

[bobbiemcgee]

Think Leo almost had the fake crying down.

[Masterofreality]

Huge miss on the jobs report today. Biden still failing spectacularly. Even NPR had to acknowledge it.
Stuff that means something. Can’t wait for Prime Minister Ron Klain’s spin tweets.

[MADXSTER]

STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS and THE SNIDE REMARKS

I really enjoy this thread with one exception. There is really good information, points-counterpoints, links, etc. Many times I will get 'ah ha' moments and say to myself, I didn't realize that or wow, now I that is interesting.

That is all

[bobbiemcgee]

Huge miss on the jobs report today. Biden still failing spectacularly. Even NPR had to acknowledge it.
Stuff that means something. Can’t wait for Prime Minister Ron Klain’s spin tweets.

4.2 > 15.0

[Masterofreality]

4.2 > 15.0

3.5 > 4.2.

And Biden’s is artificial from people leaving the work force.
Try again.

[GoMuskies]

Man, you guys are terrible at math. Don't you know the big Pac-Man mouth always eats the bigger number? Always.

[X-man]

3.5 > 4.2.

And Biden’s is artificial from people leaving the work force.
Try again.

Not true. See https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/03/upshot/jobs-report-unemployment-falls.html.

Try again.

[Strange Brew]

Not true. See https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/03/upshot/jobs-report-unemployment-falls.html.

Try again.

Would love to read that but it's behind the paywall and the NYT isn't worth the tiny about of bandwidth it took to click the link in the first place. Perhaps, you could enlighten us on what is discussed in the article?

[X-man]

Would love to read that but it's behind the paywall and the NYT isn't worth the tiny about of bandwidth it took to click the link in the first place. Perhaps, you could enlighten us on what is discussed in the article?

Here's a salient passage:

"Sometimes a falling unemployment rate is driven by a pernicious trend: People drop out of the labor force. The opposite was true in November. The survey of American households on which the data is based showed uniformly positive signs. The number of people working was up by 1.1 million while the number of adults not in the labor force — neither working nor looking for work — fell by 473,000."

[Strange Brew]

Here's a salient passage:

"Sometimes a falling unemployment rate is driven by a pernicious trend: People drop out of the labor force. The opposite was true in November. The survey of American households on which the data is based showed uniformly positive signs. The number of people working was up by 1.1 million while the number of adults not in the labor force — neither working nor looking for work — fell by 473,000."

Ok, thanks.

[paulxu]

It'll mostly be revised upward as most months this year have been...sometimes by 100,000+

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/03/us-has-added-nearly-1-million-more-jobs-2021-than-initially-reported/

[Masterofreality]

It'll mostly be revised upward as most months this year have been...sometimes by 100,000+

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/03/us-has-added-nearly-1-million-more-jobs-2021-than-initially-reported/

No guarantee of that propaganda.

The unemployment rate under Trump was 3.5% February, 2020. Pre-Pandemic. Check it out below. Fact. 3.5 better than 4.2.
And, ok. I’ll admit an error that I made in stating that it was due to less people in the workforce. That was based on an earlier story I read this morning.
But Trump had a 3.5% rate with the same number of people in the workforce in February 2020 as now which has returned to prepandemic level.
Trump > Biden

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

[bobbiemcgee]

Fact is trump turned out to be the worst jobs president in history. So when it's goes down to 3.49 in a few months, will you be singing Biden's praises? That'll be the day.

[Masterofreality]

Fact is trump turned out to be the worst jobs president in history. So when it's goes down to 3.49 in a few months, will you be singing Biden's praises? That'll be the day.

Only because of a once in a lifetime pandemic Bobbie. 3.5% unemployment in 2/20 and lowest minority unemployment in history. Fact.

[MADXSTER]

I have no doubt that Biden will have the lowest jobs unemployment in history because someone somewhere will change the definition of unemployment.

[Strange Brew]

I have no doubt that Biden will have the lowest jobs unemployment in history because someone somewhere will change the definition of unemployment.

Haha, wait till they tell you (again) that unemployment is good for you.

Pelosi and the Left are a broken record. For Dems, going back to Carter (Clinton was the last Centrist) unemployment is by design not a side effect.

https://pelosi.house.gov/news/press-releases/pelosi-remarks-at-press-conference-today-on-unemployment-insurance

[XU_Lou]

So when you take the steps I list above, you don't see the marked increase in all cause excess deaths in 2021 vs 2020 (and prior years) from weeks 32 though 43?

MID - your point is caught by some in the media as well:

"Despite more than 99% of the elderly population being reported “vaccinated,” and 87% being reported as “fully vaccinated,” the elderly population in the United States have been dying at nearly the same rates as the pre-vaccine stage of the pandemic. In fact, the elderly population from ages 65 to 74 has been dying at a higher rate.

The finding has sweeping and profound ramifications for the evaluation of Covid response policies, such as the advocacy of universal vaccination regardless of risk or natural immunity. Since the elderly population is rapidly approaching more than 99% of the population being “fully vaccinated,” it is a critical determination of the utility of vaccines in the broader policy picture."



Does this data fit with what you saw?

https://beckernews.com/exclusive-its-game-over-for-the-cdc-if-these-death-rates-hold-true-43385/

[Strange Brew]

The “Patriot’s Front”? Get better Lincoln Project and or the Feds. Why not The People’s Front of Judea or the Judean People’s Front? LOL!

[Masterofreality]

Chris “Cover-up” Cuomo finally fired by CNN.
But which network is the spreader of lies and misinformation?

[X-man]

Chris “Cover-up” Cuomo finally fired by CNN.
But which network is the spreader of lies and misinformation?

The more pertinent question is which network fires its spreaders of lies and misinformation?

[xuwillie]

The more pertinent question is which network fires its spreaders of lies and misinformation?

None of them... Msnbc wouldnt have anyone left if they did

[Masterofreality]

The more pertinent question is which network fires its spreaders of lies and misinformation?

Cuomo got fired over sexual assault allegations and helping cover up those of his brother.
He didn’t get fired over his lies and misinformation.
CNN & MSNBC lies threaten democracy and the republic by trying to take down a duly elected President.
Meanwhile Jeffrey Toobin who masturbated on a zoom call with female colleagues still has a CNN job.

[X-man]

Cuomo got fired over sexual assault allegations and helping cover up those of his brother.
He didn’t get fired over his lies and misinformation.
CNN & MSNBC lies threaten democracy and the republic by trying to take down a duly elected President.
Meanwhile Jeffrey Toobin who masturbated on a zoom call with female colleagues still has a CNN job.

Sorta like what Fox is trying to do with Biden?

[bjf123]

Sorta like what Fox is trying to do with Biden?

I’m curious what lies they’ve told about Biden. I don’t really pay that much attention, figuring they’re all spinning and not reporting.


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[X-man]

I’m curious what lies they’ve told about Biden. I don’t really pay that much attention, figuring they’re all spinning and not reporting.


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Here's one that perhaps you've heard of: Biden didn't actually win.

[Smails]

Here's one that perhaps you've heard of: Biden didn't actually win.

Who on Fox is currently pushing this narrative? I don't watch cable news so I'm genuinely interested in who is saying this.

[xuwillie]

Here's one that perhaps you've heard of: Biden didn't actually win.

Fox said this? I do remember media outlets saying Trump didn't win the first time around. Not sure exactly what your point is

[X-man]

Fox said this? I do remember media outlets saying Trump didn't win the first time around. Not sure exactly what your point is

Perhaps you've heard of a couple guys on Fox every night. One's named Carlson, and the other's named Hannity. The "big lie" is their mantra, I believe.

[ron meXico]

Time for a Ron Mexico exclusive to spread a little holiday cheer:
For all you Rudolph fans hum the tune as you sing along…

You know Dashel and Rangel, Jackson and Geitner
Blago and Franken “cold cash” Jefferson and spitzer
But do you recall, the most thievonous lyonous scumbag liberal of them all…

“Bubba” slick Willy Clinton, boosted the White House furniture
Dare we even raise the question…
How did you make the money with white water
All of the other democRATS tried to keep their thievery a secret
“Bubba” thought everything was an entitlement…
Therefore, he would just keep it.

Then one steamy passionate night…
A young blue dressed intern came to say
“Bubba” if you turn me into a human humidor
I deny that it’s sad that we had on the floor

Then how his constituents loved him, loved him
With their collective IQ of 23
“Bubba” will forever go down in history
As the thievonous lyonous scumbag who didn’t
have sex with Monica…. Lewinsky

[bjf123]

Perhaps you've heard of a couple guys on Fox every night. One's named Carlson, and the other's named Hannity. The "big lie" is their mantra, I believe.

They’re as credible as Rachel Maddow or Don Lemon. I was taking about actual journalists, but wasn’t clear in my question.


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[paulxu]

They’re as credible as Rachel Maddow or Don Lemon. I was taking about actual journalists, but wasn’t clear in my question.


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Assuming that's a fair question, here's what we face from the constant repetition and belief from the majority of one party on our electoral system, from the Big Lie.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/january-6-insurrection-trump-coup-2024-election/620843/

[bjf123]

Assuming that's a fair question, here's what we face from the constant repetition and belief from the majority of one party on our electoral system, from the Big Lie.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/january-6-insurrection-trump-coup-2024-election/620843/

The Atlantic is hardly an impartial reporter of political issues. I agree that there are plenty of whack-a doodles on the Right who think Trump won the election. They’re wrong. As are those on the Left who see voter suppression at any regulation short of show up on Election Day and cast your vote with no conditions at all.

As to constant repetition, let’s not forget the majority of the other party, along with most MSM, crying racism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc. at the tops of their lungs all day, every day.

They’re all intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt.


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[Masterofreality]

Sorta like what Fox is trying to do with Biden?

Abjectly false. Reporting on a President’s foibles is news. No one on Fox is calling for impeachment or removal from office that I’ve heard of.

[XU_Lou]

In related news..... Don Lemon Accuser Says CNN is a 'Predator Protecting Machine':

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/landonmion/2021/12/06/don-lemon-accuser-says-cnn-is-a-predator-protecting-machine-n2600174

Lemon's days on CNN are limited as well...

[X-man]

Abjectly false. Reporting on a President’s foibles is news. No one on Fox is calling for impeachment or removal from office that I’ve heard of.
I am so sorry that you are beyond redemption. Just stay in that hole wherever you reside.

[paulxu]

Maybe this guy could buy a shirt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv0oofpD9Nk

[Strange Brew]

I am so sorry that you are beyond redemption. Just stay in that hole wherever you reside.

NM.

[Masterofreality]

I am so sorry that you are beyond redemption. Just stay in that hole wherever you reside.

No one on Fox, that I have heard. Has called for Impeachment or Removal as many on other networks did with Trump. They could, based upon Biden’s total incompetence and malfeasance in office. He could most probably be removed under the 25th Ammendment. This administration is a disaster and 60% plus in the country agree.
And, as usual, when you have zero argument, as leftists usually do, they resort to reckless finger pointing and name calling.

[murray87]

Yes, who would have predicted the WTA would show such backbone but cheers to them and more shame on the cowards at the NBA.

[paulxu]

No one on Fox, that I have heard. Has called for Impeachment or Removal as many on other networks did with Trump. They could, based upon Biden’s total incompetence and malfeasance in office. He could most probably be removed under the 25th Ammendment. This administration is a disaster and 60% plus in the country agree.
And, as usual, when you have zero argument, as leftists usually do, they resort to reckless finger pointing and name calling.


Maybe this guy could buy a shirt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv0oofpD9Nk

Bump

[Masterofreality]

Bump

So? I said “that I had heard of”. It certainly isn’t something that is being broadcasted over and over.
I don’t watch Fox News, and I sure don’t obsess over this trash like you do Paul, but that clip is a self own. The guy is first of all repeating what Congressmen have said and pointing out exactly what Biden’s incompetence is. You just repeated it by posting. That doesn’t make your case any stronger, Buddy.

Now the White House is trying to collude with news organizations to “improve the economic messaging”. That sure sounds a lot like “State Run” media to me.
If that was Trumps White House you’d be throwing up all over this thread.

[paulxu]

No one on Fox, that I have heard.


I don’t watch Fox News,

One of these things is not like the other.

[noteggs]

Speaking of Afghanistan, how many Americans are still stranded? Haven’t seen an article since early November. Guess this story isn’t worth being reported on? So we went from leave no Americans behind to we don’t give a crap…nice

[Strange Brew]

Speaking of Afghanistan, how many Americans are still stranded? Haven’t seen an article since early November. Guess this story isn’t worth being reported on? So we went from leave no Americans behind to we don’t give a crap…nice

Stay focused on Fox News! THAT’s the real problem…

[Masterofreality]

One of these things is not like the other.

Uh, it absolutely is.
I don’t watch any performative cable news. But, you sure hear a lot of stuff that is reported there. Especially falsehoods.
Like for example, under Trump, I sure heard plenty of noise parroted by all the media cartel about Trump’s supposed foibles. Repeated all over.
So even if one doesn’t watch you’d still hear stuff. That is, of course, like now under Biden his foibles are covered up by the MSM going Zero Dark Thirty.

Just think occasionally Paul.

[xubrew]

When it comes to policies, there are some that I agree with and some that I don't. The stuff I don't agree with doesn't really cause me to feel overly alarmed. I just disagree.

This is cause for alarm. The belief in false narratives, and how that belief in made-up fraud could end up resulting in actual full blown fraud. The 2020 Election wasn't stolen. Neither was the 2016 Election. Why it's so hard to see that a lot of people dislike someone, and for that reason a lot of people voted against that same person is beyond me. Not only is it not far fetched, it's actually quite obvious. The only real attempt to steal the 2020 Election came from Trump. At the rate things are going, Trump probably won't have to steal the next election, but if he does, it may actually work next time. Unlike the policies I don't agree with, this is full blown full red-alert alarming. How did so many people become so brainwashed??

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/january-6-insurrection-trump-coup-2024-election/620843/?fbclid=IwAR2q8Z5gNdTG_3mI4zeXgVcwCSPtQK5iNXJi0YqW q714taZ54NkZJ4i5VVc

[GoMuskies]

That story is a bit over the top.

[xubrew]

That story is a bit over the top.

I hope you're right. Hell, I hope that it's more than just "a bit" over the top.

[XU_Lou]

Catholic churches are burning across Europe, Canada and the U.S. You saw the Christmas tree burned in front of Fox News yesterday. The video below shows a Marxist/Commie vandalizing a marble statue of Our Lady of Fatima outside the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington D.C. last night:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-BwQrk58mw

What kind of sick bastard would do this? Just the other day NYC took down a statue of Jefferson. Our country is under assault by Marxist/Commies trying to destroy our history and culture.

[Smails]

Catholic churches are burning across Europe, Canada and the U.S. You saw the Christmas tree burned in front of Fox News yesterday. .

Catholic churches are burning in the US?

[Strange Brew]

Catholic churches are burning in the US?

Don’t know about fires but the Cathedral in Denver was vandalized not too long ago as well.

[XU_Lou]

At least 113 incidents have occurred across 29 states and the District of Columbia since May 2020. Incidents include arson, statues beheaded, limbs cut, smashed, and painted, gravestones defaced with swastikas and anti-Catholic language and American flags next to them burned, and other destruction and vandalism.

https://www.usccb.org/committees/religious-liberty/Backgrounder-Attacks-on-Catholic-Churches-in-US

A NUMBER of Catholic churches have been torched and vandalized in the US as cops investigate whether this is linked to the ongoing statue protests:

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1135323/churches-burned-black-lives-matter-protests/


In Canada:

The CCRL list identified 153 such incidents covering attacks from 2010 through 2021, but Elia is confident the actual number is far higher, and he is urging the public to make use of the database’s reporting feature to add any historic or current crimes that the list has omitted:

https://bccatholic.ca/news/catholic-van/catholic-civil-rights-league-launches-church-attack-database

48 Canadian Churches Vandalized or Burned Down in Past 2 Months:

https://ricochet.com/1008646/48-canadian-churches-vandalized-or-burned-down-in-past-2-months/

[Strange Brew]

Can’t believe anyone paid for a “Masterclass” to hear Hillary read her diary, er losing speech.

[bobbiemcgee]

or trump's grift at the 9/11 boxing match.

[Strange Brew]

or trump's grift at the 9/11 boxing match.

Haha, he was was doing those gigs long before politics. You make me sad. Lol.

[UCGRAD4X]

At least 113 incidents have occurred across 29 states and the District of Columbia since May 2020. Incidents include arson, statues beheaded, limbs cut, smashed, and painted, gravestones defaced with swastikas and anti-Catholic language and American flags next to them burned, and other destruction and vandalism.

https://www.usccb.org/committees/religious-liberty/Backgrounder-Attacks-on-Catholic-Churches-in-US

A NUMBER of Catholic churches have been torched and vandalized in the US as cops investigate whether this is linked to the ongoing statue protests:

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1135323/churches-burned-black-lives-matter-protests/


In Canada:

The CCRL list identified 153 such incidents covering attacks from 2010 through 2021, but Elia is confident the actual number is far higher, and he is urging the public to make use of the database’s reporting feature to add any historic or current crimes that the list has omitted:

https://bccatholic.ca/news/catholic-van/catholic-civil-rights-league-launches-church-attack-database

48 Canadian Churches Vandalized or Burned Down in Past 2 Months:

https://ricochet.com/1008646/48-canadian-churches-vandalized-or-burned-down-in-past-2-months/

That can't be true. I have hears nothing on the news about it. You are certainly mistaken sir. Certainly this would have been a major story of bigotry and hatred that is the scourge of all that is right and just. You must be perpetuating fake news sir. You are hereby banned until further notice, which is basically for-e-ver.

[xubrew]

That can't be true. I have hears nothing on the news about it. You are certainly mistaken sir. Certainly this would have been a major story of bigotry and hatred that is the scourge of all that is right and just. You must be perpetuating fake news sir. You are hereby banned until further notice, which is basically for-e-ver.

You’re right when you say he’s “mistaken.” I don’t think he thinks he’s lying. I think he actually believes all this crap.

[XU_Lou]

You’re right when you say he’s “mistaken.” I don’t think he thinks he’s lying. I think he actually believes all this crap.

So, do you deny those reports? Are you saying they're all totally made up? You should get out of your bubble because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about...

[Strange Brew]

So, do you deny those reports? Are you saying they're all totally made up? You should get out of your bubble because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about...

Can’t speak directly on those reports but the Cathedral here was crudely vandalized. The media here covered it for about 1min on air and never said another word so it would make sense that these things are not on people’s radar.

[xubrew]

So, do you deny those reports? Are you saying they're all totally made up? You should get out of your bubble because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about...

If you ever think that I do know what the fuck I’m talking about…then I’ll be worried.

[XU_Lou]

This is for you Brew, and all the other libs who think it's alright for trans to take scholarships from women and smash women's sports records - cause I'm sure you'll never see this either:

"After years of battling for Title IX and equal rights with men in college athletics, the biological women are pretty much being told to shut their mouths and move along by the school and the NCAA"

Anybody who thinks this is right doesn't have their head screwed on straight, or doesn't have the balls to speak out against this BS: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/second-female-penn-swimmer-steps-forward-describes-teammates-in-tears

[bobbiemcgee]

Don't care what your politics are, it's inherently unfair and needs to end.

[XU_Lou]

Don't care what your politics are, it's inherently unfair and needs to end.

Holy shit! You're coming around!! There's hope....

[Masterofreality]

From the Wall Street Journal this morning:

“ The Build Back Bet*ter plan, un*less Sen. Joe Manchin fi*nally dri*ves a stake through its heart, will, among other things, pre*sum-ably add sig*nif*i*cant ex*tra de*mand for la*bor to fill all those union*ized child-care, ed*u*ca*tion and green jobs. As the Con*gres*sional Bud*get Of*fice help*fully told us last week, it would add $3 tril*lion to the 10-year deficit, not the $231 bil*lion con*jured from the three-card Monte trick of hav*ing all its ma*jor pro*vi*sions sup*pos*edly sun*set af*ter a few years.”

Y’all better hope that Manchin is a Man of his word or this country will become a debtor nation.
Hey, Brandon! BBB ain’t “paid for”.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-making-transitory-inflation-rising-prices-powell-stagflation-wage-stagnation-carter-bbb-11639409062?st=lqoe8556qaxuj8j&reflink=article_copyURL_share

[Strange Brew]

From the Wall Street Journal this morning:

“ The Build Back Bet*ter plan, un*less Sen. Joe Manchin fi*nally dri*ves a stake through its heart, will, among other things, pre*sum-ably add sig*nif*i*cant ex*tra de*mand for la*bor to fill all those union*ized child-care, ed*u*ca*tion and green jobs. As the Con*gres*sional Bud*get Of*fice help*fully told us last week, it would add $3 tril*lion to the 10-year deficit, not the $231 bil*lion con*jured from the three-card Monte trick of hav*ing all its ma*jor pro*vi*sions sup*pos*edly sun*set af*ter a few years.”

Y’all better hope that Manchin is a Man of his word or this country will become a debtor nation.
Hey, Brandon! BBB ain’t “paid for”.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-making-transitory-inflation-rising-prices-powell-stagflation-wage-stagnation-carter-bbb-11639409062?st=lqoe8556qaxuj8j&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Wait, so it’s not free? Who knew?

[bobbiemcgee]

MOR needs to get rid of those computer farts, hard to read.

[Masterofreality]

MOR needs to get rid of those computer farts, hard to read.

Blame the WSJ. It’s behind my paywall. It’s what happens when you copy & paste

[XU_Lou]

Blame the WSJ. It’s behind my paywall. It’s what happens when you copy & paste

You should try pasting in Word first, and then do a find and replace. It took 1 second to edit:

“ The Build Back Better plan, unless Sen. Joe Manchin finally drives a stake through its heart, will, among other things, presum-ably add significant extra demand for labor to fill all those unionized child-care, education and green jobs. As the Congressional Budget Office helpfully told us last week, it would add $3 trillion to the 10-year deficit, not the $231 billion conjured from the three-card Monte trick of having all its major provisions supposedly sunset after a few years.”

[noteggs]

What happens when you don’t prosecute those who loot (sorry heard this word is now racist) during riots? Smash and dash? Who knew…

[xubrew]

This is for you Brew, and all the other libs who think it's alright for trans to take scholarships from women and smash women's sports records - cause I'm sure you'll never see this either:

"After years of battling for Title IX and equal rights with men in college athletics, the biological women are pretty much being told to shut their mouths and move along by the school and the NCAA"

Anybody who thinks this is right doesn't have their head screwed on straight, or doesn't have the balls to speak out against this BS: https://www.foxnews.com/sports/second-female-penn-swimmer-steps-forward-describes-teammates-in-tears

So far as I know I’ve never even commented on this, so you’re calling me out due to your own completely baseless assumption. Just being honest, I don’t think that at any point in my life I’ve ever formed an opinion on anything having to do with the women’s swim team at Penn.

[Masterofreality]

You should try pasting in Word first, and then do a find and replace. It took 1 second to edit:

“ The Build Back Better plan, unless Sen. Joe Manchin finally drives a stake through its heart, will, among other things, presum-ably add significant extra demand for labor to fill all those unionized child-care, education and green jobs. As the Congressional Budget Office helpfully told us last week, it would add $3 trillion to the 10-year deficit, not the $231 billion conjured from the three-card Monte trick of having all its major provisions supposedly sunset after a few years.”

Thanks but I do it on my phone where Word is not available.
I love you dudes but not enough to sit down at a laptop.
There are limits.

[bobbiemcgee]

So far as I know I’ve never even commented on this, so you’re calling me out due to your own completely baseless assumption. Just being honest, I don’t think that at any point in my life I’ve ever formed an opinion on anything having to do with the women’s swim team at Penn.

So no need to take the Fifth?...oh..

[XU_Lou]

Nicholas Sandmann Gets His THIRD Settlement from Corporate Media - This Time from NBC

Kyle Rittenhouse, how much are you going to take in???

[bobbiemcgee]

Judge rules Dominion's 1.6 billion suit against Fox will proceed.

[paulxu]

Sadly our democracy remains in peril:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/17/eaton-taguba-anderson-generals-military/

[Strange Brew]

Sadly our democracy remains in peril:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/17/eaton-taguba-anderson-generals-military/

It’s hard to take you seriously when you say, “our democracy”.

[XU_Lou]

It’s hard to take you seriously when you say, “our democracy”.

No, really, it's hard to take WAPO seriously.

[Strange Brew]

No, really, it's hard to take WAPO seriously.

Good point, but that’s obvious. I expect Paul to know at least how the US Government operates. I mean, he and his friends are “college educated”….

[paulxu]

Good lord. So we're a democratic republic where we elect our representatives to govern for us.
It is in peril from congressmen, officials and even former cabinet members who tried hard to overturn an election.
There's cause enough for worry, especially if former generals are cautioning us.

[XU_Lou]

Good lord. So we're a democratic republic where we elect our representatives to govern for us.
It is in peril from congressmen, officials and even former cabinet members who tried hard to overturn an election.
There's cause enough for worry, especially if former generals are cautioning us.

It's called mind control.... You've been gaslighted....

[Strange Brew]

Good lord. So we're a democratic republic where we elect our representatives to govern for us.
It is in peril from congressmen, officials and even former cabinet members who tried hard to overturn an election.
There's cause enough for worry, especially if former generals are cautioning us.

I agree. Can’t believe elected officials created a fake dossier to overturn an election….

[bobbiemcgee]

You think the pee tape is why he lost? Haha

[Strange Brew]

You think the pee tape is why he lost? Haha

No dummy. it was used to try to remove him from office. It was fake and the Dems are a joke.

[paulxu]

The idiotic "pee tape" was not part of the first impeachment for his abuse of power and obstruction of congress.
Nor the second for his incitement of insurrection.

Not sure where you get your news. But it becomes clearer every day that members of his branch and congressmen plotted to thwart the peaceful transfer of power.
That is what concerned the generals in their message. And it should concern us all.

[XU_Lou]

The idiotic "pee tape" was not part of the first impeachment for his abuse of power and obstruction of congress.
Nor the second for his incitement of insurrection.

Not sure where you get your news. But it becomes clearer every day that members of his branch and congressmen plotted to thwart the peaceful transfer of power.
That is what concerned the generals in their message. And it should concern us all.

Do you mean the woke pussies who have degraded our military to the point where we never win a war game scenario against China?

[Strange Brew]

The idiotic "pee tape" was not part of the first impeachment for his abuse of power and obstruction of congress.
Nor the second for his incitement of insurrection.

Not sure where you get your news. But it becomes clearer every day that members of his branch and congressmen plotted to thwart the peaceful transfer of power.
That is what concerned the generals in their message. And it should concern us all.

So Russia had nothing to do with the first impeachment? And the FBI said he did not incite the riot. There was no Insurrection.

Do you remember what was happening right when the protestors were let into The Capitol? That’s right, members of Congress were Democratically challenging the cert of EC votes. Well timed IMO…

Seriously Paul, no one except what’s left of Biden’s support is buying any of this BS anymore. Maybe you can blame climate change for his numbers. LOL.

[paulxu]

Talk to the generals who are concerned. I'm not making it up.

[Strange Brew]

Talk to the generals who are concerned. I'm not making it up.

The same twits who orchestrated the Afghan withdrawal? Yeah, sure Paul. Lol.

[bobbiemcgee]

No dummy. it was used to try to remove him from office. It was fake and the Dems are a joke.

Aiways the name calling to make your point. He wasn't even in office yet.

[Strange Brew]

Aiways the name calling to make your point. He wasn't even in office yet.

Right, the Dems created a fake doc a the basis to undo an election before he was in office.

I’d like to think you’re smarter than this.

[bobbiemcgee]

Guess we'll find out someday when Vlad wants us too.

[Strange Brew]

Guess we'll find out someday when Vlad wants us too.

What are you talking about Bobbie? Vlad is very happy with the current Admin. Xi too. No one takes you and The Party seriously anymore.

[Strange Brew]

Nicholas Sandmann Gets His THIRD Settlement from Corporate Media - This Time from NBC

Kyle Rittenhouse, how much are you going to take in???

Looks like CNN may be paying Gen Flynn soon as well. He better hurry!

[XU_Lou]

What are you talking about Bobbie? Vlad is very happy with the current Admin. Xi too. No one takes you and The Party seriously anymore.

Yea, Vlad has more market share and a higher margin - Thanks Joe!!

[Strange Brew]

Yea, Vlad has more market share and a higher margin - Thanks Joe!!

Yeah, Joe and the Dems love ‘em some former Soviets. Joe nominated one to work at the Fed but thankfully she didn’t make it through the process.

[bobbiemcgee]

I was thinking the opposite with the Pub infighting. Should be some interesting primaries.

[XU_Lou]

KKK Disbands As Progressive Left Accomplishing All Their Goals

HARRISON, AR—It was a somber day for white-hooded members of the Ku Klux Klan as they received news that their organization was disbanding, since the progressive Left was accomplishing all of their goals with unparalleled effectiveness.

“Welp, I guess it’s both good news and bad news,” said current CEO of the KKK, Bob U. Genics while overseeing Klan members turning in their robes and pointed hats. “Them Lefties cornered the racism market for sure, and look at how they undermined minority communities through low school standards, drug legalization, and rampant decriminalization. Impressive.”

The head of the now-dissolved KKK reassured the gloomy crowd, reminding them that it was an honor to pass the baton of hate and division to people with their tentacles deeply woven into American politics, education, business, and entertainment.

“Racism is in good hands,” he said, misty-eyed.

Following the disbandment meeting, the former members excitedly showed their support for the new face of racism and hate by donating to Ilhan Omar's campaign.


https://babylonbee.com/news/kkk-disbands-as-critical-race-theorists-accomplishing-all-their-goals?utm_source=mewe&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=mewe

[bobbiemcgee]

Your wife will be happy you aren't stealing her sheets anymore.

[Masterofreality]

Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat with sense and principles, shivs Biden’s Build Back Bitchy plan in the back.
Not really in the back, because he’s been telling Schumer, Pelosi and Biden that this amorphordite was trash for 5 months, but, yeah. Go ahead and waste time on Zombie Legislation you cretins. How refreshing..a politician who listens to his constituents and votes their way.
And I know Paul is soooooooo concerned about a President who lies. Biden and Psaki have been saying all along that BBB wouldn’t cost an extra dime because it was “All Paid For”. Uh, the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office confirmed that this lunacy would raise the National Debt by $4.8 TRILLION over 10 years. That is kind of a big lie??? Where are the Pinocchio’s Paul. Where is your outrage over a real attempt to destroy this democracy by bankrupting it? Where is your outrage over Coastal Elites trying to give themselves a nice fat dollar bonus by attempting to give themselves and $80,000/year tax break-just because they decided to live in a state that soaks the taxpayers already. Where is your outrage over the Biden lie that only the elites making $400,000 would pay more in taxes?
Fact check. The middle class is paying more because of the incompetent “Biden Inflation Tax”.
Get ready for the 2022 Red Wave.

[bobbiemcgee]

Not surprising since trump got 69% of the vote in WVA. He's just trying to hang on to his phony, baloney job.

[Strange Brew]

Not surprising since trump got 69% of the vote in WVA. He's just trying to hang on to his phony, baloney job.

Or doing what he was elected/hired to do by the people of his State. You know how it's supposed to work.

[XU_Lou]

Talk to the generals who are concerned. I'm not making it up.

BTW, haven't we've seen this playbook before? I believe it was in 1933 at the Reichstag.

[xuwillie]

Not surprising since trump got 69% of the vote in WVA. He's just trying to hang on to his phony, baloney job.

Thank God he is as that build back better BS would cripple this country. Honestly haven't talked to one person that actually thinks this is good bill.

[Strange Brew]

Thank God he is as that build back better BS would cripple this country. Honestly haven't talked to one person that actually thinks this is good bill.

Well, Bobbie seems to like it. :)

[bobbiemcgee]

Well, Bobbie seems to like it. :)

Actually, as an Independent, didn't like it at all. Too much progressive BS.

[bobbiemcgee]

And if texans want to use their own state funds to build a wall, like that too. Altho, think there would 100 better uses for their funds then a wall with holes in it that an 8 yr. old can scale in a few seconds.

[Strange Brew]

And if texans want to use their own state funds to build a wall, like that too. Altho, think there would 100 better uses for their funds then a wall with holes in it that an 8 yr. old can scale in a few seconds.

I challenge you to scale the fence!

Have you been to TX? They don’t really care what people from other countries think. And by countries I mean States.

[Strange Brew]

Actually, as an Independent, didn't like it at all. Too much progressive BS.

There’s hope for you yet. Join us CO Libertarians! We have very few rules and really dislike big Gov’t. That, and we need the dudes…

[UCGRAD4X]

There’s hope for you yet. Join us CO Libertarians! We have very few rules and really dislike big Gov’t. That, and we need the dudes…

I assume you mean 'dues'

otherwise it could be misconstrued

not that their's anything wrong with that

[paulxu]

We won't be able to say we weren't warned:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/12/20/retired-generals-wapo-op-ep-2024-insurrection-anderson-ebof-vpx.cnn

[Strange Brew]

We won't be able to say we weren't warned:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/12/20/retired-generals-wapo-op-ep-2024-insurrection-anderson-ebof-vpx.cnn

Well, CNN said it so it must be serious.

[paulxu]

CNN didn't say it. The general said it. Did you watch the video?

[Masterofreality]

One trick pony Paul.
He just can’t seem to make himself catch up to February 2021 and beyond. Hmmmm. Wonder why?

Meanwhile from the Chicago Sun Times:

“ JUST IN: Chicago restaurant patrons likely will be required to show proof of vaccination and a driver’s license before dining indoors, the president of the Illinois Restaurant Association said Tuesday.”

Uh, don’t “Some” people in “progressive” Chicago and other places bitch about people having to show identification to VOTE? Now you’ll have to show it to get into a restaurant.

I think I’m living in the upside down!

[paulxu]

Imagine that...governments trying to perform their basic duty of protecting the health and safety of the citizens. It's mind-boggling.

[Masterofreality]

Imagine that...governments trying to perform their basic duty of protecting the health and safety of the citizens. It's mind-boggling.

Yeah, like letting tens of thousands (at least) of unvaxxed illegal aliens, and whoever else, across the border with no recourse then “relocating” them elsewhere in the country.
And like Biden being clueless on getting American citizens out of Afghanistan and either lying or being clueless as to how many were there.
Like Biden’s trash Covid record.

You mean that kind of “government protection?”
Try again Paul.

[bjf123]

Yeah, like letting tens of thousands (at least) of unvaxxed illegal aliens, and whoever else, across the border with no recourse then “relocating” them elsewhere in the country.

I’d love to see someone justify that. If Covid is that serious, and I say this as some who’s fully vaccinated and boostered, why the hell would you let unvaccinated people from countries with less than ideal healthcare into the country unchecked?

I’d also like to understand why employees at companies with less than 100 employees aren’t subject to OSHA’s still contested vaccine mandate. If the justification for the mandate is the imminent risk from Covid and the health of the country, shouldn’t it apply to everyone? COVID doesn’t care where you work or how many people are there.


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[Xville]

I’d love to see someone justify that. If Covid is that serious, and I say this as some who’s fully vaccinated and boostered, why the hell would you let unvaccinated people from countries with less than ideal healthcare into the country unchecked?

I’d also like to understand why employees at companies with less than 100 employees aren’t subject to OSHA’s still contested vaccine mandate. If the justification for the mandate is the imminent risk from Covid and the health of the country, shouldn’t it apply to everyone? COVID doesn’t care where you work or how many people are there.


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There are hundreds of federal and state labor laws that apply to larger companies that do not apply to smaller companies for a myriad of reasons whether it is because of their lack of infrastructure, time, costs etc. I'm assuming that same thought process applies to the mandate.