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bobbiemcgee
08-31-2020, 07:44 PM
https://www.betterhelp.com/helpme/?utm_source=AdWords&utm_medium=Search_PPC_c&utm_term=mental+health+help+online_b&utm_content=41730093996&network=g&placement=&target=&matchtype=b&utm_campaign=371722090&ad_type=text&adposition=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwv7L6BRDxARIsAGj-34rn1QAeccY9rD2Oa96-a1laDSnTiNJmS41g8wzh4UM_PoKMZKhOjk4aAqbjEALw_wcB¬_found=1&gor=helpme
get some help.
XU_Lou
08-31-2020, 07:54 PM
I guess only certain "Black Lives Matter": https://twitter.com/RepVernonJones/status/1300233429825576960
X Factor
08-31-2020, 08:01 PM
https://www.betterhelp.com/helpme/?utm_source=AdWords&utm_medium=Search_PPC_c&utm_term=mental+health+help+online_b&utm_content=41730093996&network=g&placement=&target=&matchtype=b&utm_campaign=371722090&ad_type=text&adposition=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwv7L6BRDxARIsAGj-34rn1QAeccY9rD2Oa96-a1laDSnTiNJmS41g8wzh4UM_PoKMZKhOjk4aAqbjEALw_wcB¬_found=1&gor=helpme
get some help.
Maybe you should email all of those Democrat politicians, DNC propaganda journalists, and Leftist "celebrities" in the video who have been advocating for riots, violence, and death to Trump and tell them to get some help.
That's who's taking over the Democratic Party these days.
XU_Lou
08-31-2020, 08:22 PM
Bobbie's more triggered by people who point the truth out....
paulxu
08-31-2020, 09:18 PM
If it was a person who called himself part of Antifa who shot the guy in Portland, that'll make the score:
Antifa identified murders 2
Right wing militia murders 329
All 331 of them are tragic.
Nigel Tufnel
08-31-2020, 09:24 PM
I'm a 47 year old white dude that lives in the suburbs. Was born in 73. Growing up, my parents always taught me 2 things about politics: 1) never talk politics with other people; 2) Never ask anyone who they voted for. If anyone asks you who you voted for, tell them politely, it's none of their business.
I think my parents were on to something...they never even envisioned a time where 30-70 year olds would call politicians names. Our nomenclature in this country has changed. Sad.
Muskie in dayton
08-31-2020, 09:26 PM
Bobbie - is this OK?
https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/31/alice-johnson-rnc-white-house-protesters/ (http://https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/31/alice-johnson-rnc-white-house-protesters/)
bobbiemcgee
08-31-2020, 10:12 PM
She killed thousands with her cocaine business, so I'm sure she has heard worse.
"Based on coverage at the time, Johnson was involved in a drug conspiracy that authorities described as the largest known drug operation in the city's history."
The Life sentence was justified.
I'm a 47 year old white dude that lives in the suburbs. Was born in 73. Growing up, my parents always taught me 2 things about politics: 1) never talk politics with other people; 2) Never ask anyone who they voted for. If anyone asks you who you voted for, tell them politely, it's none of their business.
I think my parents were on to something...they never even envisioned a time where 30-70 year olds would call politicians names. Our nomenclature in this country has changed. Sad.
I’m a 60 year old white guy in the burbs. The next door neighbor and the guy across the street both have signs in their yards. I don’t care who they are for, I think less of them for that. Nobody with half a brain will be influenced by what sign you stuck in your grass.
I’d rather have a vote among you clowns for President, and I think we could probably do better.
paulxu
08-31-2020, 10:50 PM
This is a fascinating video.
I think it shows the immediate aftermath of the guy who was shot in Portland.
A person acting as a medic tries twice to offer assistance; once she seems to be pushed away by maybe a friend of the victim, and once by the cops. It would appear she is prevented from helping because she is black.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1300231439577837570
Wonder why his friend in the white shirt bolts out of view at the end of the video.
X-band '01
09-01-2020, 01:09 AM
FiveThirtyEight.com - Why Minnesota Could Be the Next State to Go Red (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-minnesota-could-be-the-next-midwestern-state-to-go-red/)
This article just talks about Minnesota from a demographic standpoint - interestingly enough, it does not mention a potential George Floyd/Jacob Blake effect.
Much has been said about Hillary Clinton giving Wisconsin the finger back in 2016 - will Biden put any time in MN while he tries to reenergize his base in Wisconsin?
waggy
09-01-2020, 02:06 AM
The Democratic Party in general fully supports the murder of the unborn...
But they love people of color!
Soros should have to make reparations to our destroyed cites.
Government in bed with the health industry.. Government payments for Covid deaths. I hope Trump dismantles the affordable healthcare act.
The democratic party may very well be the most evil entity on earth. They are communists. They are trash.
Xville
09-01-2020, 06:44 AM
https://www.bullshido.net/anatomy-of-a-catastrophe/
The best thing I've seen on the rittenhouse debacle. Most of it I agree with.
X-man
09-01-2020, 07:23 AM
Typical Lib response. Resort to ad hominen attacks.
But, I'd still welcome you over to watch an X game in my amazing basement.
Does Biden live in his basement, or was that also an "ad hominem attack"? Just asking.
bobbiemcgee
09-01-2020, 09:31 AM
Trump's (stable genius) new platform:
“But so I think, I think it would be, I think it would be very, very, I think we’d have a very, very solid, we would continue what we’re doing......" he said.
And they say Biden is losing it.
GoMuskies
09-01-2020, 09:37 AM
I'm a 47 year old white dude that lives in the suburbs. Was born in 73. Growing up, my parents always taught me 2 things about politics: 1) never talk politics with other people; 2) Never ask anyone who they voted for. If anyone asks you who you voted for, tell them politely, it's none of their business.
I think my parents were on to something...they never even envisioned a time where 30-70 year olds would call politicians names. Our nomenclature in this country has changed. Sad.
I'm a 43 year old white dude that lives in the suburbs. Was born in 76. I desperately wish my mother would stop talking to me about politics.
bobbiemcgee
09-01-2020, 09:45 AM
I hope Trump dismantles the affordable healthcare act.
He can replace it with his "ghost' program he has been announcing for the next two weeks for 4 years.
X Factor
09-01-2020, 09:58 AM
Trump's (stable genius) new platform:
“But so I think, I think it would be, I think it would be very, very, I think we’d have a very, very solid, we would continue what we’re doing......" he said.
And they say Biden is losing it.
Let's all take a minute to watch some PSA's from Hidin' Joe Biden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNajwpiOEO4
bobbiemcgee
09-01-2020, 10:07 AM
Covfefe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MyLwAokINc
Wants to date his own daughter. Sick puppy.
GoMuskies
09-01-2020, 10:20 AM
Covfefe
https://youtu.be/QjJwQcBnMac
Muskie in dayton
09-01-2020, 10:29 AM
She killed thousands with her cocaine business, so I'm sure she has heard worse.
"Based on coverage at the time, Johnson was involved in a drug conspiracy that authorities described as the largest known drug operation in the city's history."
The Life sentence was justified.
You didn’t answer my question. I’ll ask you again Bobbie - was it OK?
bobbiemcgee
09-01-2020, 10:38 AM
I think I would just ignore the Cocaine Queen. Now if my son or daughter died as a result of her drug business, I might hurl a few insults at her. She wisely would not comment on the alleged incident.
Trump just widened the swamp when he pardoned her because he was enamored with KK.
"Over a period of four years, Johnson helped manage regional operations of the Cali mafia’s drug business (based in Colombia), what the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) called “an incredibly sophisticated, highly-structured drug trafficking organization.”
paulxu
09-01-2020, 12:57 PM
Go..that was great. Covfefe the horse !!
XU_Lou
09-01-2020, 02:56 PM
Four Young Leftist Democrats Sentenced in Court After Hurling Chlorine Bomb at Police Officer, Nearly Killing Him and Detonating 7 Other Bombs:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/four-young-leftists-sentenced-court-hurling-chlorine-bomb-police-officer-nearly-killing-detonating-7-bombs/
Muskie in dayton
09-01-2020, 03:00 PM
I think I would just ignore the Cocaine Queen. Now if my son or daughter died as a result of her drug business, I might hurl a few insults at her. She wisely would not comment on the alleged incident.
Trump just widened the swamp when he pardoned her because he was enamored with KK.
"Over a period of four years, Johnson helped manage regional operations of the Cali mafia’s drug business (based in Colombia), what the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) called “an incredibly sophisticated, highly-structured drug trafficking organization.”
Nope, still not an answer, Bobbie.
xubrew
09-01-2020, 03:15 PM
Trump's (stable genius) new platform:
“But so I think, I think it would be, I think it would be very, very, I think we’d have a very, very solid, we would continue what we’re doing......" he said.
And they say Biden is losing it.
This is not an indication that Biden isn't losing it. He is. This just means that Trump has already lost it.
noteggs
09-01-2020, 03:23 PM
Bobbie - is this OK?
https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/31/alice-johnson-rnc-white-house-protesters/ (http://https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/31/alice-johnson-rnc-white-house-protesters/)
I can’t open link. Maybe Bobbie cannot as well.
XU_Lou
09-01-2020, 03:25 PM
Again, I'll ask, are Democrats really terrorists? Are they fomenting insurrection and violence? You be the judge:
Kamala Harris told “The Late Show” Stephen Colbert that the Black Lives Matter riots “are not going to stop.”:
“They’re not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they’re not going to stop after Election Day. Everyone should take note of that on both levels, that they’re not going to let up, and they should not, and we should not.”
Joe Biden tweeted this
"Does anyone believe there will be less violence in America if Donald Trump is reelected?"
Is he threatening us?
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/29/the-time-kamala-grinned-and-said-protesters-are-never-going-to-stop-and-they-should-not-965969
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/09/01/joe-biden-decides-to-hold-a-gun-to-the-countrys-head/
X-man
09-01-2020, 03:29 PM
Again, I'll ask, are Democrats really terrorists? Are they fomenting insurrection and violence? You be the judge:
Kamala Harris told “The Late Show” Stephen Colbert that the Black Lives Matter riots “are not going to stop.”:
“They’re not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they’re not going to stop after Election Day. Everyone should take note of that on both levels, that they’re not going to let up, and they should not, and we should not.”
Joe Biden tweeted this
"Does anyone believe there will be less violence in America if Donald Trump is reelected?"
Is he threatening us?
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/29/the-time-kamala-grinned-and-said-protesters-are-never-going-to-stop-and-they-should-not-965969
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/09/01/joe-biden-decides-to-hold-a-gun-to-the-countrys-head/
You need to get out more. And stay away from right-wing media if you are unable to understand what the stories mean. Only a fool would read those two quotes from Harris and Biden, and think that the quotes suggest that they are terrorists.
XU_Lou
09-01-2020, 03:30 PM
Democrats are such nice people:
"In Portland they are throwing pee on people that won’t raise their fist in the air or kneel in front of BLM. I live in Portland and watched 3 people get pee thrown on them from water bottles. BLM told them “All White people will eventually bow or Die”
https://twitter.com/oclostvegas/status/1300692210199928833
XU_Lou
09-01-2020, 03:32 PM
You need to get out more. And stay away from right-wing media if you are unable to understand what the stories mean. Only a fool would read those two quotes from Harris and Biden, and think that the quotes suggest that they are terrorists.
So I guess all these Democrat politicians are saying something they really aren't then:
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1300290897922453504
X-band '01
09-01-2020, 03:41 PM
So - who among you (kids included) is currently playing Animal Crossing on the Switch?
NY1 - Biden Campaign Releases Campaign Signs in Animal Crossing (https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2020/09/01/biden-campaign-releases-campaign-signs-in--animal-crossing-)
Donald Trump, your turn.
Lloyd Braun
09-01-2020, 04:34 PM
Is it possible for a Russian bot to post here like it is Twitter?
X Factor
09-01-2020, 04:44 PM
I think I would just ignore the Cocaine Queen. Now if my son or daughter died as a result of her drug business, I might hurl a few insults at her. She wisely would not comment on the alleged incident.
Trump just widened the swamp when he pardoned her because he was enamored with KK.
"Over a period of four years, Johnson helped manage regional operations of the Cali mafia’s drug business (based in Colombia), what the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) called “an incredibly sophisticated, highly-structured drug trafficking organization.”
How many Americans have died because of illegal aliens? You read about it all the time. Illegal aliens committing crimes that easily could've been prevented if they had been deported, but Democrats want open borders. Democrats declare their cities "sanctuary" cities for illegals. They want healthcare and other benefits for illegals. They get released time and time again back onto the streets only to commit more crimes against Americans.
https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/crimes-illegal-immigrants-widespread-across-us-sanctuaries-shouldnt
Opponents of federal efforts to enforce the immigration laws enacted by Congress repeatedly claim that illegal immigrants are “less likely” to commit crimes than U.S. citizens – and thus represent no threat to public safety. But that’s not true when it comes to federal crimes.
Non-citizens constitute only about 7 percent of the U.S. population. Yet the latest data from the Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics reveals that non-citizens accounted for nearly two-thirds (64 percent) of all federal arrests in 2018. Just two decades earlier, only 37 percent of all federal arrests were non-citizens.
These arrests aren’t just for immigration crimes. Non-citizens accounted for 24 percent of all federal drug arrests, 25 percent of all federal property arrests, and 28 percent of all federal fraud arrests.
Yet, you're mad because Trump pardoned a Black woman that had already served 21 years in prison over drug offenses where she was an intermediary, not a dealer or seller. She's 65 years old now and by all accounts has turned her life around. She committed no disciplinary actions while in prison, and became a certified hospice worker.
But dammit, she deserves to rot in prison.
bobbiemcgee
09-01-2020, 05:12 PM
yep. And she definitely was a dealer and seller. See the counts she was charged with.
https://thefederalist.com/2018/06/08/characterization-alice-johnsons-crimes-wrong-deserved-punishment/
noteggs
09-01-2020, 06:00 PM
The turtles re-election campaign just hired Nick Sandmann.
X Factor
09-01-2020, 06:53 PM
yep. And she definitely was a dealer and seller. See the counts she was charged with.
https://thefederalist.com/2018/06/08/characterization-alice-johnsons-crimes-wrong-deserved-punishment/
I agree she deserved to go to prison. I also don't have a problem with Trump pardoning her after serving 21 years and turning her life around.
That's why Trump has worked on prison reform and signed the First Step Act. It will give people like Alice Johnson a second chance at life.
I get you want to keep a Black woman locked up for the rest of her life while ignoring the crimes committed by illegal aliens against American citizens.
bobbiemcgee
09-01-2020, 08:09 PM
Usual trump bs
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/us/politics/fast-check-donald-trump-democrats-open-borders.html
and yes she should have served her life regardless of her race. Ask the parents of all the drugees who died. She worked for the Cali Cartel for chrissakes. El Chapo ring a bell?
Muskie in dayton
09-01-2020, 10:21 PM
Hey Bobbie, is this OK?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/08/30/blm-activists-celebrated-as-trump-supporter-killed-devine/amp/
bobbiemcgee
09-01-2020, 11:05 PM
As I have stated many times, no fan of BLM.
GoMuskies
09-02-2020, 04:23 PM
Nancy Pelosi can not be serious with this shit. Just can. not.
Pelosi addresses Monday's salon incident:
“I take responsibility for trusting the word of the neighborhood salon that I’ve been to...many times…It was a set up, and I take responsibility for falling for a setup.”
“I think that this salon owes me an apology, for setting me up”
https://twitter.com/TalKopan/status/1301244429399924737?s=20
paulxu
09-02-2020, 04:48 PM
Then again, Trump and Pence hold rallies with people on top of each other and not a mask in sight.
xudash
09-02-2020, 04:55 PM
Nancy Pelosi can not be serious with this shit. Just can. not.
Pelosi addresses Monday's salon incident:
“I take responsibility for trusting the word of the neighborhood salon that I’ve been to...many times…It was a set up, and I take responsibility for falling for a setup.”
“I think that this salon owes me an apology, for setting me up”
https://twitter.com/TalKopan/status/1301244429399924737?s=20
I'm trying to stay out of here again, but WOW. Just wow!
These entitled fools are just completely mentally checked out from reality.
xuwillie
09-02-2020, 05:19 PM
Funny. Trump should personally thank Pelosi when re-elected. This is a big deal no matter what the Libs on this board say. So many people have been suffering and here you have one of the biggest libs at a salon that should be closed and not wearing a mask. Jeez
GoMuskies
09-02-2020, 05:22 PM
It's only a big deal because of what she said today. If she just said I should not have gone there, it was a mistake and I apologize, news cycle over. Now she's asking the salon for an apology because she broke the rules.
xudash
09-02-2020, 06:09 PM
It's only a big deal because of what she said today. If she just said I should not have gone there, it was a mistake and I apologize, news cycle over. Now she's asking the salon for an apology because she broke the rules.
Here's where I have to disagree with you: she knowingly went to this place and had to know that it was against the rules, if you will.
Notwithstanding that she really screwed the pooch with this incident, you are otherwise saying that she could have had a soft landing via contrition: it's the old "I'm a thief, I got caught, I apologize - I should be forgiven".
Sorry. She went there. She knew she went there (well, it is Pelosi, so maybe I'm stretching it a bit, given her level of stupidity).
She isn't a "thief" ,but she is allegedly one of our top political leaders. You don't get to make 'mistakes' like this at that level.
Not in this context. Not with COVID boxing people in and boxing people out of work and their jobs. Not when common citizens aren't allowed to go to these places, and not when the people who own these places are not allowed to operate them and therefore make a living.
She was DOA when she deliberately stepped through that door and did what she did. I get your angle about being contrite, and, as you noted, it didn't matter anyway because she doubled down in liberal stupidity.
It's just that the optics are so bad with this that no amount of remorse would have made it better.
XU_Lou
09-02-2020, 07:03 PM
I guess BLM doesn't like Elvis:
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1406095/elvis-presleys-graceland-graffiti-black-lives-matter/
Xville
09-02-2020, 08:02 PM
Then again, Trump and Pence hold rallies with people on top of each other and not a mask in sight.
Sure..but not complete hypocrites
xavierj
09-02-2020, 08:49 PM
I saw this on Twitter. Only in America do you have angry white lady telling a black guy to educate himself on police brutality and systematic racism.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AnneSWynne/status/1299509162695630854
Xville
09-02-2020, 08:58 PM
I saw this on Twitter. Only in America do you have angry white lady telling a black guy to educate himself on police brutality and systematic racism.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AnneSWynne/status/1299509162695630854
That's hysterical. Talk about white privilege lol
xudash
09-02-2020, 10:20 PM
As the Far Left and the Democrats continue to exhibit stupid and comical behavior, how much of this are they continuing to generate:
https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/28/why-this-ex-never-trumper-wants-four-more-years/
bobbiemcgee
09-02-2020, 10:27 PM
Trump tells NC voters to commit a felony:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/the-president-just-committed-a-felony-trump-slammed-for-encouraging-supporters-to-vote-fraudulently/
What an asshole.
Some of these bozos will try it.
paulxu
09-03-2020, 07:51 AM
I feel sure this board would have imploded if Biden had suggested people vote twice.
Muskie in dayton
09-03-2020, 08:03 AM
Trump tells NC voters to commit a felony:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/the-president-just-committed-a-felony-trump-slammed-for-encouraging-supporters-to-vote-fraudulently/
What an asshole.
Some of these bozos will try it.
If you listen to the video, he said those who vote absentee should still go to the polls to confirm the system worked. If it worked, they will see their vote was recorded. If not, then they still need to vote. No felony. Sheesh.
I don’t like Trump, though I do value honesty and fairness. This type of dishonesty is the crime here.
paulxu
09-03-2020, 08:36 AM
If you listen to the video, he said those who vote absentee should still go to the polls to confirm the system worked. If it worked, they will see their vote was recorded. If not, then they still need to vote. No felony. Sheesh.
I don’t like Trump, though I do value honesty and fairness. This type of dishonesty is the crime here.
I'm not sure that makes a lot of sense. Many of the mailed ballots (especially with the shenanigans of the new postal head) may not be received and counted by election day. So you go to the polls, don't see it recorded yet...and commit a felony?
At my polling place they have the list of registered voters for that precinct, but I don't believe any information on whether an absentee ballot has been received by that date.
xubrew
09-03-2020, 08:47 AM
Anyone who commits voter fraud is a moron. You have to be at The highest possible level of stupid to A) go through all that trouble, and B) commit a felony that could land you in federal pound me in the ass prison, all so you can have an infinitesimally small impact on the election. The risk/reward ratio is about a million-to-one, if not more.
Doing something like hacking a voting machine makes sense. It’s totally wrong, but it can actually have an impact. Casting a second vote will almost assuredly not.
Muskie in dayton
09-03-2020, 12:16 PM
I'm not sure that makes a lot of sense. Many of the mailed ballots (especially with the shenanigans of the new postal head) may not be received and counted by election day. So you go to the polls, don't see it recorded yet...and commit a felony?
At my polling place they have the list of registered voters for that precinct, but I don't believe any information on whether an absentee ballot has been received by that date.
The voting system does identify if someone requested an absentee ballot, and if that person's absentee ballot has been received. If a completed ballot was received, they cannot vote in person. If someone casts an absentee ballot not yet received, they can request a provisional ballot.
Now if they cast an absentee ballot and claimed they didn't, I agree that is a felony.
Lamont Sanford
09-03-2020, 12:24 PM
That's hysterical. Talk about white privilege lol
Exactly. Thanks for being so woke, Karen!
Juice
09-03-2020, 05:07 PM
The facts of Rosenbaum's (one of the guys killed in Kenosha) sexual assault offenses have been dug up and put online. There were 5 victims ranging from age 9 to 11. The guy was a monster.
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeElk/status/1301358035298787337?s=20
Xville
09-03-2020, 05:22 PM
The facts of Rosenbaum's (one of the guys killed in Kenosha) sexual assault offenses have been dug up and put online. There were 5 victims ranging from age 9 to 11. The guy was a monster.
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeElk/status/1301358035298787337?s=20
Anyone who molests a child should be absolutely tortured for weeks then killed, period end of story.
noteggs
09-03-2020, 07:31 PM
I would like to say I’m so proud of my daughter choosing an education major and getting a job to teach 1st grade after graduation this year. Ask her about her day today and said school system is having protest week. Hmm, you mean like Boston tea party and 60’s civil rights? She said no, social justice with BLM. Wanted to go further with the conversation but decided not to.
bobbiemcgee
09-03-2020, 07:46 PM
Congrats to your daughter and the proud papa. She makes us all proud. I picked up my grandson up a few times from 1st grade last year. Wow! Quite a scene.
X Factor
09-03-2020, 09:58 PM
The facts of Rosenbaum's (one of the guys killed in Kenosha) sexual assault offenses have been dug up and put online. There were 5 victims ranging from age 9 to 11. The guy was a monster.
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeElk/status/1301358035298787337?s=20
Sick bastard. He deserved it.
X Factor
09-03-2020, 10:02 PM
More degenerate Liberal legislation from California...
California Legislature Passes Bill Reducing Penalties for Oral, Anal Sex with Willing Children
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/03/california-legislature-passes-bill-reduce-penalties-oral-anal-sex-willing-children/
paulxu
09-03-2020, 10:16 PM
This one is for all my fellow veterans:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
Muskie in dayton
09-04-2020, 08:12 AM
This one is for all my fellow veterans:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
Awww, Paul, a baseless story from an anonymous source 2 years ago! You’re giving the death of journalism! Just what they always wanted!
Muskie in dayton
09-04-2020, 08:14 AM
Comedy break:
https://youtu.be/Ev373c7wSRg (https://youtu.be/Ev373c7wSRg)
STL_XUfan
09-04-2020, 08:29 AM
More degenerate Liberal legislation from California...
California Legislature Passes Bill Reducing Penalties for Oral, Anal Sex with Willing Children
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/03/california-legislature-passes-bill-reduce-penalties-oral-anal-sex-willing-children/
That is a very click baity headline. The bill just makes the language for those actions mirror the language for vaginal intercourse. The person could still be labeled a sex offender, but gives the judge discretion to not force them on the registry.
The last line of the article is fairly telling though:
“The bill is the subject of a massive misinformation campaign by MAGA/QAnon,” Wiener posted.
Juice
09-04-2020, 09:06 AM
That is a very click baity headline. The bill just makes the language for those actions mirror the language for vaginal intercourse. The person could still be labeled a sex offender, but gives the judge discretion to not force them on the registry.
The last line of the article is fairly telling though:
“The bill is the subject of a massive misinformation campaign by MAGA/QAnon,” Wiener posted.
It also allows a 24 year old to have sex with a 15 year old.
And sex offense registration is usually automatic if a person is convicted of certain offenses. And what offense determines the level or length of registration by operation of law. Sex offense registration is not usually determined by a Judge.
This is a big change compared to how the large majority and I mean large handle sex offenses in their states.
Xville
09-04-2020, 09:18 AM
It also allows a 24 year old to have sex with a 15 year old.
And sex offense registration is usually automatic if a person is convicted of certain offenses. And what offense determines the level or length of registration by operation of law. Sex offense registration is not usually determined by a Judge.
This is a big change compared to how the large majority and I mean large handle sex offenses in their states.
The hollywood perverts must have handed some politicians bag fulls of money to get this crap passed. Good to know the casting couch will be allowed to continue
XU_Lou
09-04-2020, 09:22 AM
This one is for all my fellow veterans:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
100% FAKE
Do you work for Putin?
xubrew
09-04-2020, 09:45 AM
It also allows a 24 year old to have sex with a 15 year old.
And sex offense registration is usually automatic if a person is convicted of certain offenses. And what offense determines the level or length of registration by operation of law. Sex offense registration is not usually determined by a Judge.
This is a big change compared to how the large majority and I mean large handle sex offenses in their states.
Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure the age of consent in California is 18, and I'm almost certain that there aren't any states with an age of consent below 16. There are states where it is legal for a 16 year old to have consensual sex with a 24 year old because they are at the age of consent and are within the legal age difference, but I don't think there are any states where it's legal for adults of any age to have sex with a 15 year old.
In my opinion the age of consent should not be 18. Actually enforcing that law would make a large number of high school senior sex offenders if they're 18 and dating someone that's less than a year younger than they are. Even in states where it is 18 it usually isn't enforced in those situations anyway, so why not just change it? 16 years old with a three or four year age difference sounds about right.
A 16yo and an 18yo? that's probably ok and shouldn't be looked at as any sort of a sex crime.
A 16yo and a 25yo? that's probably NOT ok
Anyone under 16 with an adult? Probably not ok either
But, I don't think California lowered their age of consent. I think they just said that a judge can use discretion if there is a less than ten year age difference. Which, doesn't sound TOO bad, does it?
paulxu
09-04-2020, 09:46 AM
100% FAKE
Do you work for Putin?
As far as I know, the article was verified by the AP. Meanwhile, you might have remembered Trump (on national TV calling McCain a loser because he was captured). Perhaps this guy will help you understand.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1301694957170749441
XU_Lou
09-04-2020, 10:28 AM
As far as I know, the article was verified by the AP. Meanwhile, you might have remembered Trump (on national TV calling McCain a loser because he was captured). Perhaps this guy will help you understand.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1301694957170749441
We got Obama because of McCain's feckless presidential campaign. He was also an integral part of the Russian hoax against Trump. Then he voted against ending Obamacare. As far as I'm concerned, McCain can rot in hell...
paulxu
09-04-2020, 10:35 AM
We got Obama because of McCain's feckless presidential campaign. He was also an integral part of the Russian hoax against Trump. Then he voted against Obamacare. As far as I'm concerned, McCain can rot in hell...
I'm going to hazard a guess that you never served in the military. I could be wrong. I often am.
xubrew
09-04-2020, 10:43 AM
I'm going to hazard a guess that you never served in the military. I could be wrong. I often am.
Probably a pretty safe bet. If he had been in the military, his fellow servicemen would have probably wanted to kill him.
X Factor
09-04-2020, 10:57 AM
That article IS 100% false. I know you Libs will believe anything negative about Trump though.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/03/donald-trump-furious-atlantic-claiming-disparaged-fallen-soldiers/
The Atlantic story cited anonymous sources who claimed that Trump did not want to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery at the site of Battle of Belleau Wood during his visit to Paris in 2018 and that he was worried about his hair in the rain. The sources also claimed that Trump said the cemetery was “filled with losers” and that the Marines who died at Belleau Wood were “suckers” for being killed.
Notice how they used "anonymous" sources. This was a hit piece two months out from the election.
Jordan Karem, the president’s body man during the trip, also weighed in on Twitter.
“Again, this is 100% false. I was next to the president the whole day!” he wrote. “The President was greatly disappointed when told we couldn’t fly there. He was incredibly eager to honor our Fallen Heroes.”
White House released redacted email from Secret Service in 2018 detailing their decision to cancel Trump attending.
https://twitter.com/robcrilly/status/1301722678408220674
Smails
09-04-2020, 11:05 AM
This one is for all my fellow veterans:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
Shame on you for forwarding a story that you know is false. You are officially part of the problem.
paulxu
09-04-2020, 11:05 AM
The AP has two verified supports for the Atlantic article.
The way Trump sues everybody, if this was really made up, he'd sue the Atlantic.
Don't hold your breath.
Also, this. Goodby Stars and Stripes:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/09/04/trump-and-stars-and-stripes-attacking-american-icon-column/5706859002/
XU_Lou
09-04-2020, 11:39 AM
I'm going to hazard a guess that you never served in the military. I could be wrong. I often am.
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
XU_Lou
09-04-2020, 11:47 AM
Shame on you for forwarding a story that you know is false. You are officially part of the problem.
Stalin would call these people "Useful Idiots". They believe one demonstrable lie after another - pretty sad....
paulxu
09-04-2020, 01:24 PM
Congressman helps out Bill Barr on election law which the president is suggesting voters violate and Barr wasn't sure about:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhAkoexU0AAXotN?format=jpg&name=medium
noteggs
09-04-2020, 02:11 PM
Does anyone find it strange these stories about Trump and the military are coming out now? I’m sure it has nothing to do with Biden climbing in the polls with the military.
Also at Biden’s presser today, first question was about the the Atlantic article and he was asked “what does that tell you anything about his (Trump) soul?” Boy that was a hard hitting question. Further in the Q&A from Biden: “I’m not trying to being solicitous, among the brightest people I’ve ever dealt with is the press, not a joke.” Democratic party and press are in lock step right now.
paulxu
09-04-2020, 02:26 PM
White House released redacted email from Secret Service in 2018 detailing their decision to cancel Trump attending.
https://twitter.com/robcrilly/status/1301722678408220674
Actually that supports the story. Bad weather says no helicopter ride.
Cars still work in France...unless you don't want your hair messed up. General Kelly took a car to stand in for Trump.
Why didn't Trump get in the car?
X Factor
09-04-2020, 02:49 PM
Actually that supports the story. Bad weather says no helicopter ride.
Cars still work in France...unless you don't want your hair messed up. General Kelly took a car to stand in for Trump.
Why didn't Trump get in the car?
From the article I posted...
The trip to the cemetery was canceled last-minute due to rain and fog preventing Marine One from safely taking the trip from Paris to the cemetery. It was also reportedly prohibitively difficult to travel 50 miles to the site via motorcade because it would require widescale traffic shutdowns in some of the busiest parts of Paris.
The Secret Service didn't want Trump sitting in a motorcade in a foreign country for long periods. They assessed the risk was too great.
Get over it Paul. This is a fake story once again from the fake news media. Kinda like Dan Rather's fake story on George W. Bush that led to four CBS execs getting fired.
Juice
09-04-2020, 03:17 PM
Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure the age of consent in California is 18, and I'm almost certain that there aren't any states with an age of consent below 16. There are states where it is legal for a 16 year old to have consensual sex with a 24 year old because they are at the age of consent and are within the legal age difference, but I don't think there are any states where it's legal for adults of any age to have sex with a 15 year old.
In my opinion the age of consent should not be 18. Actually enforcing that law would make a large number of high school senior sex offenders if they're 18 and dating someone that's less than a year younger than they are. Even in states where it is 18 it usually isn't enforced in those situations anyway, so why not just change it? 16 years old with a three or four year age difference sounds about right.
A 16yo and an 18yo? that's probably ok and shouldn't be looked at as any sort of a sex crime.
A 16yo and a 25yo? that's probably NOT ok
Anyone under 16 with an adult? Probably not ok either
But, I don't think California lowered their age of consent. I think they just said that a judge can use discretion if there is a less than ten year age difference. Which, doesn't sound TOO bad, does it?
For cases involving a young adult and a minor where vaginal intercourse took place, a judge has discretion whether to place the person convicted of statutory rape on the sex offender registry.
The judge does not have any discretion when the case involves anal or oral sex.
SB 145 would eliminate automatic sex offender registration for young adults who have anal or oral sex with a minor. Instead, a judge would make the decision, just as they do now in cases involving vaginal intercourse.
SB 145 would apply only to cases involving minors between the ages of 14-17, and an offender within a 10-year range.
It remains illegal under California law for any adult to have sex with a minor.
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/california/state-senator-defends-controversial-bill/103-f911e344-503d-4e45-8d70-c745cad03c80
Ok I may have misread it in part. It rectifies some inequalities for the types of sexual acts but it also makes it discretionary for a Judge to label someone a sex offender even when a person could be 24 and the victim is 15 (as an example).
paulxu
09-04-2020, 03:53 PM
This is a fake story once again from the fake news media. Kinda like Dan Rather's fake story on George W. Bush that led to four CBS execs getting fired.
Trump denied The Atlantic’s report in a tweet, and claimed he “never called John a ‘loser’.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1301715675115933703
I'm very confused. Should I believe you and the president when you say he never called McCain a loser?
Or should I believe the video where the president calls McCain a loser?
I remain quite amazed that you guys believe this man. His entire career has been a con...and it continues.
XU_Lou
09-04-2020, 04:23 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1301715675115933703
I'm very confused. Should I believe you and the president when you say he never called McCain a loser?
Or should I believe the video where the president calls McCain a loser?
I remain quite amazed that you guys believe this man. His entire career has been a con...and it continues.
Gropers gonna grope: https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/destroyed-biden-records/
Grifters gonna grift: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-bidens-controversies-explained
Liars gonna lie: https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/biden-lies-again-about-charlottesville/
Liars gonna lie (part 2): https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/09/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/
Liars gonna lie (part 3): https://www.heartland.org/multimedia/podcasts/damned-lies-and-joe-bidens-false-climate-promises-guest-david-wojick
I remain quite amazed that you expose yourself to being smacked down every time you post on this thread.
Muskie in dayton
09-04-2020, 04:54 PM
Can we all just agree that all politicians are crooks and liars? It would save a lot of time.
bobbiemcgee
09-04-2020, 05:03 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1301715675115933703
I'm very confused. Should I believe you and the president when you say he never called McCain a loser?
Or should I believe the video where the president calls McCain a loser?
I remain quite amazed that you guys believe this man. His entire career has been a con...and it continues.
Amazing how trump can look into a camera and tell one whopper after another even after being presented with indisputable evidence that he lied. I just don't understand his supporters. Do they think this is a hologram lying? The man is a chronic and habitual liar. Scares the crap out me he has the nuclear codes.
GoMuskies
09-04-2020, 05:14 PM
Can we all just agree that all politicians are crooks and liars? It would save a lot of time.
Sure, but not MY politicians!
bobbiemcgee
09-04-2020, 08:53 PM
NOBODY lies like trump. 20k. He lies 10x before the 1st big mac.
Muskie in dayton
09-04-2020, 09:46 PM
NOBODY lies like trump. 20k. He lies 10x before the 1st big mac.
If a liar says another person is lying, who do you believe?
paulxu
09-04-2020, 09:47 PM
I remain quite amazed that you expose yourself to being smacked down every time you post on this thread.
Guess you're in the camp that looks at that video and doesn't see/hear him call McCain a loser. Strange.
Muskie in dayton
09-04-2020, 10:01 PM
Guess you're in the camp that looks at that video and doesn't see/hear him call McCain a loser. Strange.
Did you vote for him Paul?
paulxu
09-04-2020, 10:24 PM
Did you vote for him Paul?
McCain or Trump?
paulxu
09-04-2020, 10:31 PM
Is it believable now that the Fox News National Security Correspondent has verified the claims in the Atlantic with her sources?
(asking for a friend on Xavierhoops)
Two former sr Trump admin officials confirm .@JeffreyGoldberg
reporting that President Trump disparaged veterans and did not want to drive to honor American war dead at Aisne-Marne Cemetery outside Paris.
https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweet embed%7Ctwterm%5E1301975321495973889%7Ctwgr%5Eshar e_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffpost.com%2Fentry%2Ft rump-american-war-dead-losers-suckers_n_5f517e63c5b62b3add3e1e45
Muskie in dayton
09-04-2020, 11:07 PM
McCain or Trump?
McCain (I didn’t need to ask about Trump!) :-)
XU_Lou
09-04-2020, 11:56 PM
While Paul has his panties all rolled-up again about another insignificant "scandal", he's runs cover for the real elephant in the room:
https://twitter.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1302060108898357257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1302060108898357257%7Ctwgr% 5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.revolver.news%2F
You can't and won't deflect....
X-band '01
09-05-2020, 01:21 AM
Anyone who commits voter fraud is a moron. You have to be at The highest possible level of stupid to A) go through all that trouble, and B) commit a felony that could land you in federal pound me in the ass prison, all so you can have an infinitesimally small impact on the election. The risk/reward ratio is about a million-to-one, if not more.
Doing something like hacking a voting machine makes sense. It’s totally wrong, but it can actually have an impact. Casting a second vote will almost assuredly not.
You mean you don't wind up in a white-collar resort prison?
X-band '01
09-05-2020, 01:27 AM
Scares the crap out me he has the nuclear codes.
Speaking of the codes, anyone heard from our good friends in North Korea? Haven't heard from Kim Jong Un for what feels like a year now.
paulxu
09-05-2020, 08:39 AM
McCain (I didn’t need to ask about Trump!) :-)
Hah! Although I have voted both ways over the years, depending on candidates and issues, I did not vote for McCain.
I think age also plays a factor, and we're probably not served all that well by having two candidates in their 70's.
Being there myself, I understand there is a normal slowdown of the human condition.
Muskie in dayton
09-05-2020, 01:47 PM
Hah! Although I have voted both ways over the years, depending on candidates and issues, I did not vote for McCain.
I think age also plays a factor, and we're probably not served all that well by having two candidates in their 70's.
Being there myself, I understand there is a normal slowdown of the human condition.
OK, I had perceived you as “very blue”. I ask because I really liked McCain in ‘00 in the primaries, and was ticked the Republicans screwed him over. He then “fell in line” in ‘08 which made me lose respect for him. He was the only R I supported (in ‘00) until Romney.
Regarding the age it certainly depends on the person. But you are spot on with the present 2 choices.
X Factor
09-05-2020, 02:11 PM
Just another peaceful protest brought to you by BLM.
https://twitter.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1302060108898357257
Looks like it fits the description of terrorism.
This site needs to allow us to embed tweets.
bobbiemcgee
09-05-2020, 03:39 PM
Armed Black and White militants at the Derby. What could go wrong?
bobbiemcgee
09-05-2020, 04:00 PM
Get over it Paul. This is a fake story once again from the fake news media.
Verified by your Fox News reporter. Of course, trump has called on them to fire her.
X Factor
09-05-2020, 04:25 PM
Verified by your Fox News reporter. Of course, trump has called on them to fire her.
Verified by "anonymous" sources? Ok. Probably the same anonymous sources The Atlantic used in their piece.
On the other hand, there haven upwards of a dozen people come out ON THE RECORD that have debunked the story.
xubrew
09-05-2020, 06:11 PM
Ever noticed how the level of people’s standard of proof is directly proportionate to how much or how little they want it to be true?
bobbiemcgee
09-05-2020, 06:49 PM
Fox News said it so you know it must be true. BAHAHAHA
bobbiemcgee
09-06-2020, 01:30 PM
trump thinks it would be a good idea to harass Steve Jobs widow today. Insane.
Xville
09-06-2020, 03:05 PM
trump thinks it would be a good idea to harass Steve Jobs widow today. Insane.
I have no idea to what you are referring and who cares? Might offer a suggestion to you, get outside and enjoy the weekend instead of watching whatever dumb news cycle you are obsessing over...might do you some good
GoMuskies
09-06-2020, 06:06 PM
If (and that's a big IF) the story on Trump calling dead soldiers losers and suckers is false, then I don't really blame Trump on this one. It's her magazine, and she's quite clearly a Biden supporter.
X-band '01
09-06-2020, 06:30 PM
I just want to know if it's somehow Trump's fault that Novak Djokovic got DQ'd after defaulting at the US Open today.
paulxu
09-06-2020, 09:38 PM
If (and that's a big IF) the story on Trump calling dead soldiers losers and suckers is false, then I don't really blame Trump on this one. It's her magazine, and she's quite clearly a Biden supporter.
I would agree with that, except that it's been independently corroborated by the AP, CNN and Fox.
So IF it's false, someone has roped a bunch of people into the story.
X Factor
09-06-2020, 10:31 PM
I would agree with that, except that it's been independently corroborated by the AP, CNN and Fox.
So IF it's false, someone has roped a bunch of people into the story.
It HASN'T been corroborated. There have been multiple people come out ON THE RECORD to say he never said those things. Those people were with him the entire day.
The ONLY ones saying he DID say those things are anonymous sources.
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/05/journalisms-new-propaganda-tool-using-confirmed-to-mean-its-opposite/
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/09/anatomy_of_another_fake_scandal.html
https://www.redstate.com/bradslager/2020/09/06/need-an-explanation-behind-that-hit-piece-by-the-atlantic-take-a-look-at-the-guests-at-their-upcoming-festival/
Jeffrey Goldberg, who wrote the article for The Atlantic is a HUGE Hillary Clinton guy, and The Atlantic is a left-wing rag.
https://twitter.com/JaBogen/status/1301930818256941056
Lloyd Braun
09-06-2020, 10:45 PM
It HASN'T been corroborated. There have been multiple people come out ON THE RECORD to say he never said those things. Those people were with him the entire day.
The ONLY ones saying he DID say those things are anonymous sources.
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/05/journalisms-new-propaganda-tool-using-confirmed-to-mean-its-opposite/
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/09/anatomy_of_another_fake_scandal.html
https://www.redstate.com/bradslager/2020/09/06/need-an-explanation-behind-that-hit-piece-by-the-atlantic-take-a-look-at-the-guests-at-their-upcoming-festival/
Jeffrey Goldberg, who wrote the article for The Atlantic is a HUGE Hillary Clinton guy, and The Atlantic is a left-wing rag.
https://twitter.com/JaBogen/status/1301930818256941056
Let’s say he did say those things...would it change your opinion of him? Your vote? Probably not, right?
That’s what matters here... there are few undecided votes and no matter what either side puts out nobody’s opinion will be changed. Kind of like this thread?
paulxu
09-07-2020, 09:01 AM
As Bernstein points out, over 200 of their Watergate stories were from anonymous sources. (including Deep Throat).
I wish the people would go on the record, but understand why they don't. These allegations aren't crimes.
They are merely reflections of the lack of fitness of Trump to be the commander-in-chief.
Why lose your job and chosen career in the military or civil service over this guy. Hopefully he'll be gone soon.
If the situations were criminal, I'd hope people would have the strength to speak up.
Like Vindman and others, it may cost you your job and career...but you would be upholding your oath to protect and defend the constitution.
noteggs
09-07-2020, 01:50 PM
Let’s say he did say those things...would it change your opinion of him? Your vote? Probably not, right?
If true, I don’t see how anyone could vote for Trump. Biggest problem here is it’s a he said she said situation and is almost impossible to prove either way, especially how much time has past. How many here can remember what they said a couple of years ago let alone last month. I mean, their are people here on this board, in the press, and Biden still misrepresenting what Trump said about Charlottesville and we have the damn transcript.
Juice
09-07-2020, 02:10 PM
Andrew Surabian
@Surabees
BREAKING: Zach Fuentes, Top Aide to John Kelly, Denies Atlantic Story About Trump
“Fuentes unequivocally denied @TheAtlantic’s report...Fuentes personally briefed Trump on the weather situation that led to the trip being canceled.”
https://twitter.com/Surabees/status/1303007538057744386?s=20
X Factor
09-07-2020, 02:34 PM
If true, I don’t see how anyone could vote for Trump. Biggest problem here is it’s a he said she said situation and is almost impossible to prove either way, especially how much time has past. How many here can remember what they said a couple of years ago let alone last month. I mean, their are people here on this board, in the press, and Biden still misrepresenting what Trump said about Charlottesville and we have the damn transcript.
There are numerous stories of how Trump has been nothing but gracious and sympathetic towards the families of fallen soldiers. This story is a hit piece 60 days out from an election. You really think we wouldn't have heard about this sooner had he really said these things?
On the other hand, John Kerry DID call American soldiers and military leaders war criminals and accused them of genocide during Vietnam.
paulxu
09-07-2020, 02:49 PM
Wait...John Kerry's on the ballot?
Also, Kerry in his testimony:
cited an investigation that resulted in over 150 honorably discharged veterans testifying to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia.
However, since Kerry served in Vietnam and was wounded and decorated, he probably is a loser and sucker.
noteggs
09-07-2020, 03:45 PM
There are numerous stories of how Trump has been nothing but gracious and sympathetic towards the families of fallen soldiers. This story is a hit piece 60 days out from an election. You really think we wouldn't have heard about this sooner had he really said these things?
On the other hand, John Kerry DID call American soldiers and military leaders war criminals and accused them of genocide during Vietnam.
If we’re being intellectually honest, gotta believe everyone on here knows exactly why the story and Cohen’s book is coming out now. I agree with Trump being great with the troops in a lot of different ways. This is why I have my BS antenna up on this whole story. BTW, thanks for sharing The Intercept story because that was interesting on how the press confirms (or lack there of) their sources.
GoMuskies
09-08-2020, 09:39 AM
Well this is an interesting twist: Trump is leading Biden among Latinos in Miami-Dade. That may allow Trump to avoid getting blown out there, and if he does that he probably wins Florida. Cuban-Americans favor Trump by a 38 point margin.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article245495835.html
xubrew
09-08-2020, 10:37 AM
It HASN'T been corroborated. There have been multiple people come out ON THE RECORD to say he never said those things. Those people were with him the entire day.
The ONLY ones saying he DID say those things are anonymous sources.
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/05/journalisms-new-propaganda-tool-using-confirmed-to-mean-its-opposite/
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/09/anatomy_of_another_fake_scandal.html
https://www.redstate.com/bradslager/2020/09/06/need-an-explanation-behind-that-hit-piece-by-the-atlantic-take-a-look-at-the-guests-at-their-upcoming-festival/
Jeffrey Goldberg, who wrote the article for The Atlantic is a HUGE Hillary Clinton guy, and The Atlantic is a left-wing rag.
https://twitter.com/JaBogen/status/1301930818256941056
Serious question...
Why doesn't Trump sue them?
My only frame of reference is sports media, which I know isn't at all the same, but just talking to the people that work in that industry will make you realize that you better be right. You need multiple sources. Unnamed sources are okay, but they better be real because if there is any real pushback then you better be able to legally stand your ground. Retractions for getting a story wrong will oftentimes cost a reporter their job and sometimes their career, and if something goes to air or print that isn't true, the target of that story will almost always take legal action to get the story retracted or removed.
So, why doesn't Trump go after them? He's obviously being damaged by this, and he's obviously no stranger to litigation, and he obviously has the resources to go after them and make them take it down. So, why doesn't he?? Calling something Fake News is one thing. Actually going after them over fake stories and making them retract them while implementing stiff penalties is another. If he really feels the media is out of control, then why doesn't he take them on in a way that would actually make them stop being fake?
Another question....if the media is correct, then why aren't they calling him out more brazenly?? When ESPN reported on some of the college basketball stuff and the coaches denied it, their response was "No, it's true. We are leaving the stories up. Not only that, we dare you to sue us because if you do we can prove in court that it's true!"
I honestly don't know who to believe or what to think. Sports, in the grand scheme of things, are really just a diversion and nothing more. I don't want to say they aren't important, but they're not important on the same level that political leaders are. If the media really is making things like this up about him, then in my opinion Trump has a duty not just to himself, but to EVERYONE, to take real action against it beyond just denying it and tweeting about how it's 'fake news.' On the other hand, if Trump really is lying about it and the media knows they can prove it in court, then they kind of have a duty to pointedly say that.
But, right now, it looks like a total shit show on both ends.
bobbiemcgee
09-08-2020, 10:46 AM
Serious question...
Why doesn't Trump sue them?
Do you really want the defense to grill Kelly under oath?
paulxu
09-08-2020, 10:51 AM
Too busy with lawsuits to overturn the ACA and stop mail-in voting?
xubrew
09-08-2020, 10:54 AM
Do you really want the defense to grill Kelly under oath?
It probably wouldn't even get to that point, but if it did, then sure! I want an all out showdown. Both the media and the presidency are too important for this much bullshit, so I'd love for it to all come to a head.
bobbiemcgee
09-08-2020, 10:58 AM
I hope he does sue. Kelly and others would have to testify.
xubrew
09-08-2020, 10:59 AM
Too busy with lawsuits to overturn the ACA and stop mail-in voting?
Exactly. To your point, the guy is not afraid to use the courts. So, why doesn't he use them to go after the media if they really are as fake as he says they are??
That question can be both rhetorical and practical.
paulxu
09-08-2020, 10:59 AM
Instead of worrying about anonymous sources and getting them on the stand, why not just sue Michael Cohen.
He's put it all in writing.
Or Mary Trump, or etc.,etc.,etc.
xubrew
09-08-2020, 11:00 AM
I hope he does sue. Kelly and others would have to testify.
This is actually something that both sides should be able to agree on!! SUE THE MEDIA!! Don't just call them fake. Actually sue them!
Whether you believe Trump or the media, you should want this.
xubrew
09-08-2020, 11:05 AM
Instead of worrying about anonymous sources and getting them on the stand, why not just sue Michael Cohen.
He's put it all in writing.
Or Mary Trump, or etc.,etc.,etc.
I would LOVE it if he did it! I would also love it if the major media organizations dared him to do it. Run an op-ed daring the president to stop calling them fake news and to actually sue them.
bobbiemcgee
09-08-2020, 11:09 AM
He's been involved in over 4,000 lawsuits, so why not make his attorneys a little richer, the RNC will pick up the bill anyway.
xubrew
09-08-2020, 11:12 AM
He's been involved in over 4,000 lawsuits, so why not make his attorneys a little richer, the RNC will pick up the bill anyway.
If he's right, and he wins (which he would if he's right), the RNC won't need to pick up a damn thing.
paulxu
09-08-2020, 11:17 AM
If he's right, and he wins (which he would if he's right), the RNC won't need to pick up a damn thing.
Perhaps you've answered your own question.
xubrew
09-08-2020, 11:25 AM
Perhaps you've answered your own question.
I think that I have, but I also don't want to just jump to that conclusion. I'm completely willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if he actually is willing to try and take actual legal action against the media. He hasn't so far. He sued Bill Maher for claiming his real father was really an orangutan in a standup bit that was an obvious farce, but he's not willing to take legal action against the media for (falsely?) claiming he took a dump on our servicemen? That just doesn't make any sense.
bobbiemcgee
09-08-2020, 12:39 PM
If he's right, and he wins (which he would if he's right), the RNC won't need to pick up a damn thing.
If he lost and the RNC refused to pay, he would probably just stiff the lawyers anyway which is his usual business practice.
bobbiemcgee
09-08-2020, 12:51 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=837970393259037&set=p.837970393259037
Alt right heroes
X-band '01
09-08-2020, 01:16 PM
Well this is an interesting twist: Trump is leading Biden among Latinos in Miami-Dade. That may allow Trump to avoid getting blown out there, and if he does that he probably wins Florida. Cuban-Americans favor Trump by a 38 point margin.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article245495835.html
Here's the thing this year - Trump could win Florida, Georgia and North Carolina and that still might not be enough. If he were to hang onto Arizona and win the above states (while losing Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania) - that could end up as a 269-269 electoral tie, assuming that Maine's 4 EVs all go to Biden and Nebraska's 5 EVs all go to Trump.
If that happens, hello lawsuits!
xubrew
09-08-2020, 01:20 PM
Trump is going to win. He's running against the Democrats. The Democrats are like all of the pro sports teams in the state of Ohio. They'll blow it. No matter how much it looks like they should win, they won't.
noteggs
09-08-2020, 01:38 PM
I have a much better idea and less expensive than Trump suing MSM. Just have the DOJ spy on reporters you don’t trust. Seemed to work for the Obama administration. Well at least until they got caught.
xubrew
09-08-2020, 01:52 PM
I have a much better idea and less expensive than Trump suing MSM. Just have the DOJ spy on reporters you don’t trust. Seemed to work for the Obama administration. Well at least until they got caught.
That's not a better idea, nor is it less expensive. For starters, the stories are already in print or on air, so spying on them isn't going to make them go away. And, if what Trump is saying is true, not only will it not cost anything to sue, it will be a rather substantial pay day.
bobbiemcgee
09-08-2020, 01:53 PM
I have a much better idea and less expensive than Trump suing MSM. Just have the DOJ spy on reporters you don’t trust.
I'm sure trump's personal atty Barr is doing so.
X Factor
09-08-2020, 01:54 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=837970393259037&set=p.837970393259037
Alt right heroes
Oh bobby boy...Mr. Independent himself. Hahahaha.
How about Kamala Harris meeting with Jacob Blake, charged with felony sexual assault, and telling him how "proud" she is of him? What happened to #metoo?
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/kavanaugh-boomerang-harris-said-shes-proud-jacob-blake-man-accused-felony-sexual
GoMuskies
09-08-2020, 01:56 PM
Jacob Blake is a piece of shit who should be in a prison and not a hospital bed. But he's still a piece of shit.
noteggs
09-08-2020, 02:08 PM
That's not a better idea, nor is it less expensive. For starters, the stories are already in print or on air, so spying on them isn't going to make them go away. And, if what Trump is saying is true, not only will it not cost anything to sue, it will be a rather substantial pay day.
Guess my sarcasm font wasn’t working
bobbiemcgee
09-08-2020, 02:16 PM
Jacob Blake is a piece of shit who should be in a prison and not a hospital bed. But he's still a piece of shit.
I pretty much agree. But did they have to shoot him 7x in the back? All those cops couldn't pull him out of a car? I hope he does some time.
X Factor
09-08-2020, 02:37 PM
I pretty much agree. But did they have to shoot him 7x in the back? All those cops couldn't pull him out of a car? I hope he does some time.
Put yourself in the police officers' shoes. Reports are they had already tried to use a taser on him. He allegedly had a knife in the car (that's what the police report says). He was going into the vehicle. Only one guy can try to grab him if he's getting into the vehicle. Would you take the chance of him grabbing a knife and shanking you in the neck before you could draw your weapon?
At least Kamala Harris is proud of him. Why would she take the side of a criminal and guy that has been charged with felony sexual assault?
Why would Joe Biden meet with Jacob Blake Sr., a radical anti-semite and racist?
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/09/02/jacob-blake-sr-has-long-history-of-racist-antisemitic-anti-christian-posts-set-to-meet-joe-biden/
Juice
09-08-2020, 02:47 PM
I pretty much agree. But did they have to shoot him 7x in the back? All those cops couldn't pull him out of a car? I hope he does some time.
Officers are trained to neutralize the threat. That can be done with 1 shot or 7 or less/more.
And they tried to take him down before that and he fought them and resisted. They tried to tase (sp?) twice and he kept going.
Lamont Sanford
09-08-2020, 02:56 PM
Put yourself in the police officers' shoes. Reports are they had already tried to use a taser on him. He allegedly had a knife in the car (that's what the police report says). He was going into the vehicle. Only one guy can try to grab him if he's getting into the vehicle. Would you take the chance of him grabbing a knife and shanking you in the neck before you could draw your weapon?
At least Kamala Harris is proud of him. Why would she take the side of a criminal and guy that has been charged with felony sexual assault?
Why would Joe Biden meet with Jacob Blake Sr., a radical anti-semite and racist?
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/09/02/jacob-blake-sr-has-long-history-of-racist-antisemitic-anti-christian-posts-set-to-meet-joe-biden/
Ladies and gentlemen...your modern Democratic party leadership!
MAGA.
xubrew
09-08-2020, 02:56 PM
Guess my sarcasm font wasn’t working
Or, my sarcasmometer isn't working.
paulxu
09-08-2020, 04:54 PM
Interesting things I noticed today:
1 - Trump decided to disparage the pentagon (people he appointed) for being interested in war and arms sales.
(not too long ago I remember he was touting the billions of dollars of great arms sales to Saudi Arabia. Great deal. Of course they had to declare a
"national emergency" to get around congress for this sale. The inspector general looking into it was subsequently fired, along with some others.)
2 - Jerry Falwell's very early endorsement, key to the white, evangelical vote, may have come because there were compromising pictures of his wife in Cohen's possession.
3 - Stoking the fear in the suburbs is apparently going to be a central theme for the next 2 months
And, for a little comedic gold, there's an auctioneer guy who claims he has the bible from the photo op in DC that has been signed by Trump.
Bids are starting at $37,500.
https://momentsintime.com/bible-signed-by-trump/#.X1fvJIt7k2y
bjf123
09-08-2020, 06:32 PM
Trump is going to win. He's running against the Democrats. The Democrats are like all of the pro sports teams in the state of Ohio. They'll blow it. No matter how much it looks like they should win, they won't.
While I hope that’s the case, I just don’t see it. Of course, I didn’t expect him to beat Hillary.
Regardless, there will be lawsuits over this election and we won’t know the winner for days due to the huge number of mail in / absentee ballots being cast.
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bobbiemcgee
09-08-2020, 08:33 PM
While I hope that’s the case, I just don’t see it.
“What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening." - trump
paulxu
09-08-2020, 09:36 PM
This seems to be a Cincinnati Craigslist ad...but could be a hoax.
Is Trump coming to Cincinnati, or is there some rally planned, or maybe shooting a commercial?
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/evg/d/cincinnati-actors-wanted-no-experience/7187238111.html
bobbiemcgee
09-08-2020, 11:07 PM
if you wear the shirt made in china you get an extra 2.00
bobbiemcgee
09-09-2020, 12:13 AM
Oh bobby boy...Mr. Independent himself.]
Biden has a big lead with independent seniors. Trump wants to kill SS.
X Factor
09-09-2020, 08:26 AM
Biden has a big lead with independent seniors. Trump wants to kill SS.
Democrats have been trying to scare seniors for years about SS.
X Factor
09-09-2020, 08:30 AM
The Left is a stain on society. They preach tolerance, but in reality, they are the most intolerant people in America. They hate free speech, free thought, and try to stifle anyone who thinks differently.
ACLU Staffer Attacks University For Admitting Nick Sandmann While Professor Denounces His “Anti-Intellectual” Views
https://jonathanturley.org/2020/09/08/aclu-official-attacks-university-for-admitting-nick-sandmann-while-professor-promises-to-monitor-his-conduct/
bigdiggins
09-09-2020, 08:49 AM
Biden has a big lead with independent seniors. Trump wants to kill SS.
Biden wants to kill 401Ks
Muskie in dayton
09-09-2020, 08:52 AM
Biden has a big lead with independent seniors. Trump wants to kill SS.
Trump also wants to defund the police (https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1303337674221260800?s=20).
xuwillie
09-09-2020, 09:10 AM
Ok now Biden is senile and a liar. Still not sure the the Democrats game plan is.
bobbiemcgee
09-09-2020, 10:19 AM
Win.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/09/2020-election-polls-trump-leads-biden-in-az-fl-mi-nc-pa-and-wi.html
X Factor
09-09-2020, 11:53 AM
Win.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/09/2020-election-polls-trump-leads-biden-in-az-fl-mi-nc-pa-and-wi.html
You probably believed the polls in '16 too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJD4gm7ijPU
X-band '01
09-09-2020, 12:30 PM
Ok now Biden is senile and a liar. Still not sure the the Democrats game plan is.
The game plan is to win the election, have Biden resign, have Kamala Harris name Hillary as VP.
The end
bobbiemcgee
09-09-2020, 02:02 PM
Woodward book confirms what we already knew: Trump's response cost us tens of thousands of American lives.
Kayleigh McEnany who said she "would never lie to American people", just now lying her ass off at the press conference.
Strange Brew
09-09-2020, 02:34 PM
Woodward book confirms what we already knew: Trump's response cost us tens of thousands of American lives.
Kayleigh McEnany who said she "would never lie to American people", just now lying her ass off at the press conference.
Woodward eh, no Trump anti-bias at all there...
bobbiemcgee
09-09-2020, 03:04 PM
Woodward eh, no Trump anti-bias at all there...
Haha. They have him on tape. Hard to deny it.
Mrs. Garrett
09-09-2020, 03:29 PM
Haha. They have him on tape. Hard to deny it.
He also had this information several months ago and held onto it to coincide with the release of his book. He's as bad as Trump.
STL_XUfan
09-09-2020, 03:39 PM
He also had this information several months ago and held onto it to coincide with the release of his book. He's as bad as Trump.
Of course he did, he gathered the information for purposes of writing a book. A fact that I assume was disclosed and agreed to by the White House and the President (or why in the hell would they say yes to 18 sit down interviews, did they think that Bob "I broke the watergate scandal" Woodward wanted to just shoot shit on his down time).
bobbiemcgee
09-09-2020, 03:53 PM
Never a good idea for a President to talk to Bob Woodward. Think they would learn by now.
paulxu
09-09-2020, 04:20 PM
If you've got a tape of someone saying something....
and you realize that people may learn the truth from this tape....
you need to suddenly shift to the "alternate facts" reality.
Muskie in dayton
09-09-2020, 04:42 PM
If you've got a tape of someone saying something....
and you realize that people may learn the truth from this tape....
you need to suddenly shift to the "alternate facts" reality.
Let’s see what Fauchi has to say:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dr-fauci-trump-woodward-downplay-covid-19
bobbiemcgee
09-09-2020, 05:04 PM
Hits keep on coming with another Whistleblower complaint:
"The complaint alleges repeated violations of law and regulations, abuses of authority, attempted censorship of intelligence analysis, and improper administration of an intelligence program related to Russian efforts to influence the U.S. elections"...
Xville
09-09-2020, 05:15 PM
If you've got a tape of someone saying something....
and you realize that people may learn the truth from this tape....
you need to suddenly shift to the "alternate facts" reality.
There are no alternate facts here. There is what he said and for those who hate trump like yourself, you are going to think it is the worst thing in the world and he was misleading the american public because he is a liar and completely horrible human being. Then there are people who dont have an irrational hate for trump who can clearly see where he was coming from.
paulxu
09-09-2020, 05:28 PM
Hold on now. I don't hate Trump.
I don't think he's fit for the office, and I think his stewardship of the office has hurt our country in a variety of ways.
For our country's sake I hope he's a one term president.
On a personal note, as a veteran, I especially think he has disdain for the military, except where it serves his purposes.
And anyone who denigrates an American prisoner of war is a coward.
He is a bully and con man, and even if you like the tax cuts and judges and de-regulation, it doesn't change that.
noteggs
09-09-2020, 05:31 PM
Hits keep on coming with another Whistleblower complaint:
"The complaint alleges repeated violations of law and regulations, abuses of authority, attempted censorship of intelligence analysis, and improper administration of an intelligence program related to Russian efforts to influence the U.S. elections"...
Durham report must be coming out soon.
JEHARDI
09-09-2020, 09:26 PM
Pure stupidly to grant Woodard a series of interviews and share with him what he was unwilling to share in his daily news conferences. Makes no sense.
Juice
09-09-2020, 09:45 PM
Pure stupidly to grant Woodard a series of interviews and share with him what he was unwilling to share in his daily news conferences. Makes no sense.
He did.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-15/
X Factor
09-09-2020, 10:13 PM
Liberals...bringing back segregation one day at a time.
https://thepostmillennial.com/campus-hosts-whites-only-cafe-in-the-name-of-equality
JEHARDI
09-09-2020, 10:18 PM
He did.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-15/
March 31st, after saying it would be over by easter and downplaying it for 2 months. The real stupidity is in shaping anything with Woodard who you know is going to do nothing to help you.
bobbiemcgee
09-09-2020, 10:35 PM
Liberals...bringing back segregation one day at a time.
https://thepostmillennial.com/campus-hosts-whites-only-cafe-in-the-name-of-equality
Liberals? Sounds more like the righty KKK. Both "cafes" are really stupid. Go do your homework.
X Factor
09-09-2020, 10:39 PM
Liberals? Sounds more like the righty KKK. Both "cafes" are really stupid. Go do your homework.
It's hosted by The Center for Social Justice & Inclusion. Definitely a Leftist organization.
Juice
09-10-2020, 09:02 AM
March 31st, after saying it would be over by easter and downplaying it for 2 months. The real stupidity is in shaping anything with Woodard who you know is going to do nothing to help you.
No argument on the Woodward point but Trump made the same points to Woodward and to the public.
murray87
09-10-2020, 09:46 AM
Bob Woodward is still alive??
xubrew
09-10-2020, 10:24 AM
Holy shit we need to get this guy out of office. An important part of doing that is having someone run against him who would be good in office, and unfortunately that’s already been screwed up.
bobbiemcgee
09-10-2020, 10:33 AM
March 31st, after saying it would be over by easter and downplaying it for 2 months. The real stupidity is in shaping anything with Woodard who you know is going to do nothing to help you.
Can't believe he did 18 interviews with good ol' Bob when he said his last book, "Fear", was a hit job.
GoMuskies
09-10-2020, 10:34 AM
Bob Woodward is still alive??
Despite Trump's best efforts to kill him with the Covid.
Muskie in dayton
09-10-2020, 11:17 AM
It's hosted by The Center for Social Justice & Inclusion. Definitely a Leftist organization.
Bobbie’s confusion is both understandable and a sad commentary. This is a great proof that the political spectrum is actually a circle, and far left and right have met at the bottom. And I do mean the bottom. We really need to start working our way back up. In the meantime, we can at least laugh.
https://twitter.com/ryanlongcomedy/status/1285208497517473793?s=21
X Factor
09-10-2020, 08:40 PM
Bobbie’s confusion is both understandable and a sad commentary. This is a great proof that the political spectrum is actually a circle, and far left and right have met at the bottom. And I do mean the bottom. We really need to start working our way back up. In the meantime, we can at least laugh.
https://twitter.com/ryanlongcomedy/status/1285208497517473793?s=21
That's hilarious!
bobbiemcgee
09-11-2020, 12:00 AM
trump said covid deaths were up in Italy yesterday. They had 14. Failed to mention we had 1206. Adjusted for population, they would have had 76.
Muskie in dayton
09-11-2020, 08:16 AM
trump said covid deaths were up in Italy yesterday. They had 14. Failed to mention we had 1206. Adjusted for population, they would have had 76.
That God damn Trump, I can't believe he's killing all those people with that coronavirus he made.
X-man
09-11-2020, 09:58 AM
That God damn Trump, I can't believe he's killing all those people in the US by misleading the public about covid risk.
Fixed that for you.
paulxu
09-11-2020, 11:32 AM
You are wrong about that.
It is not his fault...he accepts no responsibility. Don't you remember?
Apparently it's Bob Woodward's (maybe a shadow president?) fault for not warning the American people.
X-man
09-11-2020, 01:14 PM
You are wrong about that.
It is not his fault...he accepts no responsibility. Don't you remember?
Apparently it's Bob Woodward's (maybe a shadow president?) fault for not warning the American people.
Of course. It's Woodward's fault! It was his responsibility to save us all from lying Trump.
X Factor
09-11-2020, 01:54 PM
Libs were scared Trump was going to start wars all over the world. Facts: Trump is getting peace deals done and helping to stabilize the Middle East and the Balkans.
https://justthenews.com/government/diplomacy/saudi-arabia-bahrain-normalize-relations-israel-following-uae
The new agreement comes several weeks after the Trump administration announced that the United Arab Emirates had agreed upon a similar normalization policy with Israel.
https://justthenews.com/government/diplomacy/united-states-brokers-breakthrough-economic-deal-between-serbia-and-kosovo
The leaders of Serbia and Kosovo on Friday formally agreed to normalize economic relations, at a White House meeting brokered by the by President Trump.
The breakthrough economic deal also came with new terms and conditions as the countries relate to Israel. Serbia committed to moving its embassy to Jerusalem, and Kosova says it will now recognize the Jewish state formally.
bobbiemcgee
09-11-2020, 05:26 PM
Durham top prosecutor resigns:
"The Hartford Courant, which first reported Dannehy's departure, cited colleagues who told the newspaper that Dannehy was stepping down in part due to concerns of political pressure to deliver a report before the presidential election."
paulxu
09-11-2020, 06:26 PM
You need to have an October Surprise...even if you have to make shit up.
Strange Brew
09-11-2020, 08:18 PM
Meanwhile Trump just earned his second Nobel nomination. WINNING!
X-man
09-11-2020, 08:47 PM
Meanwhile Trump just earned his second Nobel nomination. WINNING!
If you truly believe that Trump is worthy of a Nobel Prize in anything, we have nothing to talk about. But if you return to planet Earth, let us all know.
Strange Brew
09-11-2020, 08:53 PM
If you truly believe that Trump is worthy of a Nobel Prize in anything, we have nothing to talk about. But if you return to planet Earth, let us all know.
Ok, don’t bother me then.
bobbiemcgee
09-11-2020, 09:19 PM
If you truly believe that Trump is worthy of a Nobel Prize in anything, we have nothing to talk about. But if you return to planet Earth, let us all know.
Do they give one for lying? Shoe in.
xudash
09-11-2020, 09:20 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/09/11/donald-trump-nominated-for-second-nobel-peace-prize/amp/
Exploding silly liberal minds everywhere.
paulxu
09-11-2020, 09:53 PM
Just for fun, he couldn't spell it right a few months ago.
And apparently his campaign can't either when they make an ad up.
https://images.dailykos.com/images/854892/large/ScreenShot2020-09-11at8.13.30AM.png?1599837234
Masterofreality
09-14-2020, 11:35 AM
With his Middle East peace deals and pulling troops out of places and bringing them back home, Trump has done more to advance peace in 3 weeks than Obummer did in 8 years, but nothing like getting an "anticipatory" prize.
By the way. I had an interesting converastion with a very liberal friend of mine over the weekend. (Yes you can still be friends and disagree politically).
She is the same age as I and she was a very active demonstrator during the Vietnam War era- for world peace. She was actually arrested at demonstrations for peace in Chicago. She is a Democrat all the way and a real Peacenik.
I asked her. What if there was a President that A) Never started a war during his administration, B) Was intent on pulling US troops out from overseas and back home, C) Made overtures to make peace with our enemies without pandering or losing our strong positions, D) Brokered Peace deals in the Middle East that were unprecedented and helped secure Israel's future while keeping the dignity of Muslim Countries, E) Brokered a peace deal between Serbia and Kosovo, F) Was not afraid to stand up to warlord Generals in the Pentagon, and G)was working hard to get the US out of the Afghanistan mess? Would you demonstrate against that President and maybe actually be FOR him?
She knew what I was talking about and had NO answer....
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
bobbiemcgee
09-15-2020, 11:00 AM
"Rake America great again". 104 million acres in CA. Maybe he'll need a roomba.
"Rake America great again". 104 million acres in CA. Maybe he'll need a roomba.
Unlike the rest of the country which allows fire breaks to be regularly cut in forest areas. In the West Coast where the fire breaks are cut as a last resort to stop a raging inferno. Or maybe cleaning up the forest floor of dead brush, but NO, the tree huggers want none of that. Well now you dumbasses have no forest at all, millions in damage, thousands homeless. But what forest is left is still pristine, so there's that.
paulxu
09-15-2020, 12:22 PM
There are firebreaks and brush cleaning all over California.
The challenge seems to be the high winds more than anything else.
Fire breaks almost useless in those conditions.
GoMuskies
09-15-2020, 12:24 PM
Well, the gender reveal fireworks also seem to be an issue.
There are firebreaks and brush cleaning all over California.
The challenge seems to be the high winds more than anything else.
Fire breaks almost useless in those conditions.
Sure doesn't appear that way from the pictures on tv. Wider firebreaks, and more brush clearing, and maybe some clear cutting, as distasteful as that might be to some, could slow these fires down You have drought and high winds, AND gender reveal morons. You can't just leave nature be in this instance.
paulxu
09-15-2020, 12:56 PM
Shows what a boring life I lead. I had never heard of this gender reveal stuff.
GoMuskies
09-15-2020, 01:06 PM
Shows what a boring life I lead. I had never heard of this gender reveal stuff.
Don't bother learning. Trevor Noah has already admonished America (in his "comedy" bit around this fire) that we shouldn't reveal genders until the child is old enough to decide what its gender is.
bobbiemcgee
09-15-2020, 03:06 PM
Sure doesn't appear that way from the pictures on tv. Wider firebreaks, and more brush clearing, and maybe some clear cutting, as distasteful as that might be to some, could slow these fires down You have drought and high winds, AND gender reveal morons. You can't just leave nature be in this instance.
Ever been in CA when the Santa Ana winds blow? Firebreaks would be useless. I was there when the fire jumped the 6 lane 101. Also lots of rugged mountains. How do you put firebreaks on those. CA is HUGE. Maybe just install a sprinkler system on the whole state.
Lloyd Braun
09-15-2020, 03:29 PM
More police brutality (https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2020/09/experts-puzzled-by-aggressive-behavior-of-coopers-hawk-shot-by-police-officer-in-bay-village-backyard.html)
Well Bobbie, I guess that settles it. Don't do anything , just let the whole state burn. Because ...well, that's just the way it is in California. Let Washington and Oregon burn too.
paulxu
09-15-2020, 04:16 PM
The scientists weigh in:
Scientific American has never endorsed a presidential candidate in its 175-year history. This year we are compelled to do so. We do not do this lightly.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientific-american-endorses-joe-biden/
GoMuskies
09-15-2020, 04:20 PM
I view this as a really bad thing.
noteggs
09-15-2020, 04:31 PM
What can possibly go wrong having science politicized? Oh yeah, just witnessed eight months of it.
Bad Billy Pratt
09-15-2020, 06:04 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/09/15/u-s-median-household-income-2019-income-rises-6-8-t-o-68-700-2019/5800117002/
Have been waiting quite some time for this data to be shared. Sorry, not familiar with how to post a link.
Some of you really need basketball to start up....
bobbiemcgee
09-15-2020, 07:12 PM
Well Bobbie, I guess that settles it. Don't do anything , just let the whole state burn. Because ...well, that's just the way it is in California. Let Washington and Oregon burn too.
and Colorado. Don't know if there is a viable solution. I know it ain't raking.
bobbiemcgee
09-15-2020, 07:14 PM
Well, the gender reveal fireworks also seem to be an issue.
Gender reveals seem to be coming later in life now a la Bruce Jenners.
Masterofreality
09-15-2020, 07:33 PM
More police brutality (https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2020/09/experts-puzzled-by-aggressive-behavior-of-coopers-hawk-shot-by-police-officer-in-bay-village-backyard.html)
Hope that kid gets a $12 million settlement.
Masterofreality
09-15-2020, 07:45 PM
By the way. Below is the complete police report on the Breonna Taylor incident. It is fascinating and what a look into what the police do.
Nothing like the family getting a cool $12 million for someone who was an accomplice in illegal drug trade at worst and, at best, stupid to allow herself to continue to keep herself in dangerous and sketchy Relationships. She knew exactly what was going on.
Just like with Tamir Rice’s substandard no disciplining Mother, who got $8 million up here, these payoffs to avoid riots make me sick.
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1
Masterofreality
09-15-2020, 07:46 PM
By the way. Below is the complete police report on the Breonna Taylor incident. It is fascinating and what a look into what the police do.
Nothing like the family getting a cool $12 million for someone who was an accomplice in illegal drug trade at worst and, at best, stupid to allow herself to continue to keep herself in dangerous and sketchy Relationships. She knew exactly what was going on.
Just like with Tamir Rice’s substandard no disciplining Mother, who got $8 million up here, these payoffs to avoid riots make me sick.
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1
Xville
09-15-2020, 08:00 PM
By the way. Below is the complete police report on the Breonna Taylor incident. It is fascinating and what a look into what the police do.
Nothing like the family getting a cool $12 million for someone who was an accomplice in illegal drug trade at worst and, at best, stupid to allow herself to continue to keep herself in dangerous and sketchy Relationships. She knew exactly what was going on.
Just like with Tamir Rice’s substandard no disciplining Mother, who got $8 million up here, these payoffs to avoid riots make me sick.
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1
There will still be riots when the police arent charged, just like there were riots in st louis after that pos Michael brown and his pos parents got paid.
GoMuskies
09-15-2020, 10:05 PM
Your next President of the United States! Smdh
https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1306025265290674177?s=20
xuwillie
09-15-2020, 11:06 PM
I wouldn’t hire that guy at my small business but yet he very well could be the next president. Crazy.
X-band '01
09-16-2020, 12:23 AM
Shows what a boring life I lead. I had never heard of this gender reveal stuff.
The gender reveals are boring AF, but the stupidity expressed in these videos is usually a treasure trove of comedy gold. Except for the fire burning near Fresno.
X Factor
09-16-2020, 12:25 AM
Your next President of the United States! Smdh
https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1306025265290674177?s=20
Pandering level 1000
Cringe level 1000
X Factor
09-16-2020, 12:30 AM
Meanwhile, Trump is presiding over historic peace deals between Isreal and Arab countries...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-peace-deals-israel-bahrain-uae-middle-east
https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/trump-hosts-arab-israeli-leaders-to-ink-historic-deal/
xudash
09-16-2020, 12:44 AM
Meanwhile, Trump is presiding over historic peace deals between Isreal and Arab countries...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-peace-deals-israel-bahrain-uae-middle-east
https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/trump-hosts-arab-israeli-leaders-to-ink-historic-deal/
I heard they don’t count if you don’t spell Knowbell correctly.
Form over substance with the libs, baby.
paulxu
09-16-2020, 07:18 AM
It's not form over substance.
It's fact over fiction:
“I don’t know, to be honest, whether he’s got it straight in his head what is real and what is unreal,” the journalist said on “Anderson Cooper 360” on Tuesday night. “That is why at the end of the book, I say in totality my judgment is this is the wrong man for the job.”
bjf123
09-16-2020, 07:37 AM
Meanwhile, Trump is presiding over historic peace deals between Isreal and Arab countries...
The media seems silent about these. What do you think they’d be saying if Obama or Biden was President? They’d be screaming for a Nobel, but since it’s Trump, meh.
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Xville
09-16-2020, 08:28 AM
The media seems silent about these. What do you think they’d be saying if Obama or Biden was President? They’d be screaming for a Nobel, but since it’s Trump, meh.
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Watching the today show, they talked about it, but then at the end just had to.mention the few things that weren't in the deal such as the west bank etc, which yes that's accurate but they couldnt even being themselves to admit this was still an accomplishment.
xubrew
09-16-2020, 09:06 AM
Watching the today show, they talked about it, but then at the end just had to.mention the few things that weren't in the deal such as the west bank etc, which yes that's accurate but they couldnt even being themselves to admit this was still an accomplishment.
It's a HUGE accomplishment, which does deserve a lot of recognition.
Now if he could only channel that into making some peace here domestically, that'd be even better! Nominate him for a second Nobel Prize! As it is I'm getting a little tired of how he and a lot of others on the right do things to seemingly intentionally fan the flames, and then gives themselves high-fives for doing it. And it should go without saying, but since I know it doesn't, the left needs to cut that shit out too. Here's the thing...Whoever loses this election ain't leaving. Their supporters aren't leaving. No one is self-deporting. If you don't like the other side, you're still going to have to live with them whether your guy is in office or not.
paulxu
09-16-2020, 11:32 AM
I'd settle for a president who wasn't up at midnight tweeting out doctored videos of his opponent.
GoMuskies
09-16-2020, 11:34 AM
Yes, why tweet out doctored videos when the raw videos are so cringeworthy.
paulxu
09-16-2020, 11:39 AM
Good point. I'd say because you've got nothing better to do?
GoMuskies
09-16-2020, 11:40 AM
Good point. I'd say because you've got nothing better to do?
And that's how we like our Trump. Doing completely inconsequential things like tweeting out videos!
But of the doctored videos, here's my favorite so far! https://twitter.com/theunitedspot1/status/1306048702872612866?s=21
paulxu
09-16-2020, 11:42 AM
I'll go with Scientific American. Unfortunately his actions have consequences in the real world too.
Masterofreality
09-16-2020, 11:47 AM
Your next President of the United States! Smdh
https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1306025265290674177?s=20
Who would never agree to doing an unscripted Town Hall with undecided voters or anywhere considering doing a 4 hour debate moderated by Joe Rogan- which Trump immediately agreed to.
Sleepy Joe is gonna get destroyed in the first debate. Chris Wallace will stand for no bullsheet. That is, unless Joe somehow mysteriously comes up with a positive Covid test, just right before the scheduled debate.
xubrew
09-16-2020, 11:58 AM
Who would never agree to doing an unscripted Town Hall with undecided voters or anywhere considering doing a 4 hour debate moderated by Joe Rogan- which Trump immediately agreed to.
Sleepy Joe is gonna get destroyed in the first debate. Chris Wallace will stand for no bullsheet. That is, unless Joe somehow mysteriously comes up with a positive Covid test, just right before the scheduled debate.
Has anyone asked him to do a town hall meeting? Fox News, or any other network, should invite him to do it. Let him actually decline. Then he can be bashed legitimately for not agreeing to it.
X-band '01
09-16-2020, 12:27 PM
I don't think it's a matter of Joe Biden not wanting to do debates. It's a matter of the Democratic brass being scared shitless that he'll pull a Bloomberg and get smashed in the debates even though 99.9% of the media will say that Biden "won".
bobbiemcgee
09-16-2020, 01:30 PM
He will have to spend the whole debate countering trump lies. Hope they run a script under trump saying "the President is lying". It would never leave the screen.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/16/politics/fact-check-trump-abc-town-hall/index.html
xudash
09-16-2020, 01:31 PM
Has anyone asked him to do a town hall meeting? Fox News, or any other network, should invite him to do it. Let him actually decline. Then he can be bashed legitimately for not agreeing to it.
He’s getting bashed legitimately right now and on all fronts. He’s incoherent. He’s an empty suit. He is in no shape to run the United States in the Harris Administration.
bobbiemcgee
09-16-2020, 01:40 PM
Mutiple WH staffers test positive for covid. mark meadows surprisingly silent.
paulxu
09-16-2020, 01:42 PM
Has anyone asked him to do a town hall meeting? Fox News, or any other network, should invite him to do it. Let him actually decline. Then he can be bashed legitimately for not agreeing to it.
I think he's accepted a town hall meeting invitation for tomorrow night. I assume it's still on.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/cnn-town-hall-joe-biden/index.html
paulxu
09-16-2020, 01:43 PM
Mutiple WH staffers test positive for covid. mark meadows surprisingly silent.
With all the close quarter stuff with no masks that you see there, I'm surprised there's not a lot more of this.
xubrew
09-16-2020, 02:23 PM
He’s getting bashed legitimately right now and on all fronts. He’s incoherent. He’s an empty suit. He is in no shape to run the United States in the Harris Administration.
I suppose that's all fair, but in the post I was responding to he was specifically being bashed for not agreeing to an unscripted town hall meeting. If what Paul posted is correct, and it looks like it is, that is simply not the case. He has agreed to do one.
I think he's accepted a town hall meeting invitation for tomorrow night. I assume it's still on.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/cnn-town-hall-joe-biden/index.html
xudash
09-16-2020, 02:47 PM
Oh, no! COVID-19!!!
Fellow Liberals:
We need to keep the economy shut down as much as possible, because we’re worried about people’s health (ha! ha!).
We need to keep the focus on COVID-19 while continuing to fund anarchy through Soros, because our candidate is a babbling idiot and his pole-dancing VP candidate just made a major gaffe about it being her administration.
We need to win at all costs!!!
We have nothing else to offer so keep stoking fear.
Signed,
The Democratic National Committee - Committee for Emulating Venezuela
In the meantime, Trump:
1. Executes major peace initiatives in the Middle East (Obama just looks like an idiot now).
2. Continues the process for pulling troops home (Dumb people thought he was going to be a war monger).
3. Powers back up the economy (DOW over 28,000; trade deals, sound tax policy that benefits all brackets, etc.).
4. Enterprise Zones, permanent funding for black colleges (Al Sharpton is UPSET!).
5. Immigration strategy payoff (boarders not being overrun; Major drug busts).
Overall, someone who doesn’t take a salary and cares about the United States, versus someone who used $1 billion in US funds to pay and pressure Ukraine to fire one of its prosecutors, because wittle Hunter’s ridiculous “arrangement” got put under the heat lamp.
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