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bigdiggins
08-25-2020, 05:26 PM
Since Tim Scott represents my state in the Senate, I'll note for you that he is neither the first Black congressman, or Senator.
He didn't say "or" he said "and". As in the first to be both.
noteggs
08-25-2020, 06:37 PM
Yes, I think Scott is the first Black man to serve in both the US House and Senate.
Both...gotcha
XU_Lou
08-25-2020, 06:43 PM
This is YOUR Democrat Party - such nice people:
Rioters tried to burn Seattle police alive, sealed door with quick-dry concrete during fire at East Precinct: https://mynorthwest.com/2114190/rantz-rioters-burn-seattle-police-alive-sealed-door/
XU_Lou
08-25-2020, 06:52 PM
Jason Whitlock says LeBron James is a bigot (hard to argue with him): https://www.outkick.com/whitlock-lebron-james-is-a-bigot/
XU_Lou
08-25-2020, 06:59 PM
Gosh, Democrats are such nice people when they cluster into a mob: https://twitter.com/KunkleFredrick/status/1298347887211024386
xudash
08-25-2020, 07:40 PM
Gosh, Democrats are such nice people when they cluster into a mob: https://twitter.com/KunkleFredrick/status/1298347887211024386
Pure class. Long-term Democrats must be so proud.
So open-minded.
Such class.
Bringing people together - to loot, riot, rage, steal, cause physical harm.
Xville
08-25-2020, 07:48 PM
Jason Whitlock says LeBron James is a bigot (hard to argue with him): https://www.outkick.com/whitlock-lebron-james-is-a-bigot/
Just a typical lib...facts be damned. Emotion, emotion, emotion...like a whiny toddler.
paulxu
08-25-2020, 08:53 PM
Pure class. Long-term Democrats must be so proud.
So open-minded.
Such class.
Bringing people together - to loot, riot, rage, steal, cause physical harm.
Not unlike the Proud Boys in Oregon whose stated goal is cause unrest, or the Bundy group that invaded the Idaho statehouse, forcing lawmakers out of their meeting rooms.
paulxu
08-25-2020, 08:59 PM
Also, do you think perhaps he could tell the president this? I don't think they're on the same page.
Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) on Tuesday morning said that he believes the country’s expanded mail-in ballots process will “prove to work out just fine.”
xudash
08-25-2020, 09:26 PM
Not unlike the Proud Boys in Oregon whose stated goal is cause unrest, or the Bundy group that invaded the Idaho statehouse, forcing lawmakers out of their meeting rooms.
Care to compare scale of damage between them and what we’re now seeing?
Seriously Paul, do you think your responses are penetrating?
The optics for the negative, derisive, ineffective, racist, “hate America and burn the flag” Democrats are dragging the party down.
paulxu
08-25-2020, 09:55 PM
I wouldn't claim any protestor for the Democratic party who destroys property. That's your characterization.
I'm not trying to be penetrating either.
The protests are probably going to get Trump elected again, as they play into this cycle's white grievance/be afraid of the black man in your suburban community (that theme will be repeated in further ads I'm sure).
I think Republicans have sacrificed their party to a demagogic bully, who only cares about enriching himself.
They have no policies now; didn't even bother with a platform.
They've become automatons to his narcissistic impulses, defending his actions instead of offering good governance.
I fear for my country
xudash
08-25-2020, 10:14 PM
I wouldn't claim any protestor for the Democratic party who destroys property. That's your characterization.
I'm not trying to be penetrating either.
The protests are probably going to get Trump elected again, as they play into this cycle's white grievance/be afraid of the black man in your suburban community (that theme will be repeated in further ads I'm sure).
I think Republicans have sacrificed their party to a demagogic bully, who only cares about enriching himself.
They have no policies now; didn't even bother with a platform.
They've become automatons to his narcissistic impulses, defending his actions instead of offering good governance.
I fear for my country
Well, you are entitled to your opinion and your thoughts.
By the way, you must be missing the naturalization ceremony at the White House right now.
We feel for our country, too. That is why it is absolutely necessary for the forward progress of the United States to elect Donald Trump.
BTW, That is not my characterization of the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is kowtowing to the far left, and the far left is comprised of these idiots. The Democratic Party, directly or indirectly is embracing these idiots. It is all over television and clearly present and available to anyone who is objective enough to see it.
Xville
08-25-2020, 10:14 PM
Hes appealing at times because he calls out the bs narrative that organizations like BLM thrive on. The martyrdom of.people like michael brown, breonna Taylor, the guy up in wisconsin etc by media, and the white privileged crowd. It has nothing to do with be afraid of the black man that's ridiculous...
XU_Lou
08-25-2020, 10:18 PM
I wouldn't claim any protestor for the Democratic party who destroys property. That's your characterization.
I'm not trying to be penetrating either.
The protests are probably going to get Trump elected again, as they play into this cycle's white grievance/be afraid of the black man in your suburban community (that theme will be repeated in further ads I'm sure).
I think Republicans have sacrificed their party to a demagogic bully, who only cares about enriching himself.
They have no policies now; didn't even bother with a platform.
They've become automatons to his narcissistic impulses, defending his actions instead of offering good governance.
I fear for my country
What total pablum...
Juice
08-25-2020, 10:40 PM
Not unlike the Proud Boys in Oregon whose stated goal is cause unrest, or the Bundy group that invaded the Idaho statehouse, forcing lawmakers out of their meeting rooms.
Bundy is a BLM supporter
bobbiemcgee
08-25-2020, 10:58 PM
Pretty simple. I support cops who do not commit crimes. I support protesters would do not commit crimes. I'm a registered independent 52 yrs. or as they say in Colorado "no party". Not a fan of BLM. I just don't like trump. So what?
xuwillie
08-25-2020, 11:15 PM
Being an independent in Colorado as well I fear the Biden/Harris and far left movement more then trump and his sometimes idiotic comments
X Factor
08-26-2020, 12:19 AM
The intolerant Left is on full display tonight on twitter. Trashing Melania Trump's accent (Bette Midler saying how she "still can't speak English), calling Kentucky Attorney General, David Cameron, a "coon", "uncle Tom", "house negro", CNN political analyst, Joe Lockhart, calling Nick Sandmann a "snot nosed kid", and former Elizabeth Warren staffer, Benjamin O'Keefe, making fun of Nick Sandmann's physical appearance.
And former NYT columnist, Kurt Eichenwald, in a crazy twitter rant about Melania making changes to the rose garden, tweeted, "'These trashy, evil, stupid people need to get out of our house', and, 'This is the first time I have been furious that @FLOTUS is a foreigner. She has no right to wreck our history.'
These people are unhinged, but they want to lecture Americans on being tolerant???
X-man
08-26-2020, 07:32 AM
The intolerant Left is on full display tonight on twitter. Trashing Melania Trump's accent (Bette Midler saying how she "still can't speak English), calling Kentucky Attorney General, David Cameron, a "coon", "uncle Tom", "house negro", CNN political analyst, Joe Lockhart, calling Nick Sandmann a "snot nosed kid", and former Elizabeth Warren staffer, Benjamin O'Keefe, making fun of Nick Sandmann's physical appearance.
And former NYT columnist, Kurt Eichenwald, in a crazy twitter rant about Melania making changes to the rose garden, tweeted, "'These trashy, evil, stupid people need to get out of our house', and, 'This is the first time I have been furious that @FLOTUS is a foreigner. She has no right to wreck our history.'
These people are unhinged, but they want to lecture Americans on being tolerant???
Gosh, sounds like Fox commentators during the Democratic Convention.
paulxu
08-26-2020, 08:32 AM
You've got the White House being used as a prop for one party's convention, and various federal employees possibly violating the Hatch Act.
What are you gonna do. Grifters gonna grift.
(or pay the legal fees of their porn star during their own convention)
Smails
08-26-2020, 08:53 AM
Gosh, sounds like Fox commentators during the Democratic Convention.
Can you provide direct evidence of Fox Commentators making fun of people's accents, using racist terms, and making fun a teenager's physical appearance during the DNC? If not, you're just making shit up.
chico
08-26-2020, 09:38 AM
I couldn't agree more.
Gosh, sounds like Fox commentators during the Democratic Convention.
That first quote was in response to me saying it's unfortunate that people can't admit to a weakness of the other party, instead pointing out failings of the other side.
The second quote is you commenting to someone who pointed out someone on your side of the aisle making pretty inappropriate comments.
Apparently you could agree more.
Xville
08-26-2020, 10:07 AM
That first quote was in response to me saying it's unfortunate that people can't admit to a weakness of the other party, instead pointing out failings of the other side.
The second quote is you commenting to someone who pointed out someone on your side of the aisle making pretty inappropriate comments.
Apparently you could agree more.
Lol public reps +1000
X-man
08-26-2020, 10:53 AM
That first quote was in response to me saying it's unfortunate that people can't admit to a weakness of the other party, instead pointing out failings of the other side.
The second quote is you commenting to someone who pointed out someone on your side of the aisle making pretty inappropriate comments.
Apparently you could agree more.
Both groups are equally culpable. Until we start to respect each other and recognize that in spite our differences in political philosophy we share a lot of common ground, our society will continue to fall apart and our government will continue to be totally disfunctional.
Juice
08-26-2020, 11:13 AM
You've got the White House being used as a prop for one party's convention, and various federal employees possibly violating the Hatch Act.
What are you gonna do. Grifters gonna grift.
(or pay the legal fees of their porn star during their own convention)
HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius violated the Hatch Act, which prohibits certain political activity, when she made “extemporaneous partisan remarks” during a speech in her official capacity earlier this year, the U.S. Office of Special Counsel said Wednesday.
https://www.politico.com/story/2012/09/osc-report-sebelius-violated-hatch-act-081122
GoMuskies
08-26-2020, 11:18 AM
I feel like the people who hate Donald Trump the most are doing their best to get him re-elected right now.
XU 87
08-26-2020, 11:33 AM
The intolerant Left is on full display tonight on twitter. Trashing Melania Trump's accent (Bette Midler saying how she "still can't speak English), calling Kentucky Attorney General, David Cameron, a "coon", "uncle Tom", "house negro", CNN political analyst, Joe Lockhart, calling Nick Sandmann a "snot nosed kid", and former Elizabeth Warren staffer, Benjamin O'Keefe, making fun of Nick Sandmann's physical appearance.
And former NYT columnist, Kurt Eichenwald, in a crazy twitter rant about Melania making changes to the rose garden, tweeted, "'These trashy, evil, stupid people need to get out of our house', and, 'This is the first time I have been furious that @FLOTUS is a foreigner. She has no right to wreck our history.'
These people are unhinged, but they want to lecture Americans on being tolerant???
Just more examples of the intolerant left. If anyone on the right says something even close to this, the left demands that the person be fired and their life be ruined. And sadly, X-Man can't even admit that the above is wrong. Most leftists are probably nodding their heads when they hear or read the above garbage and say, "That's true!!"
But there's no standard like a double standard.
xuwillie
08-26-2020, 11:38 AM
I feel like the people who hate Donald Trump the most are doing their best to get him re-elected right now.
Exactly. The Democratic Party is destroying themselves right now. Just doesn’t make any sense
bobbiemcgee
08-26-2020, 11:59 AM
By the way, you must be missing the naturalization ceremony at the White House right now.
trump hates "chain migration" right after he let Melania's parents and sister into the country. "They are not the people we want" Such a Hypocrite.
paulxu
08-26-2020, 12:47 PM
https://www.politico.com/story/2012/09/osc-report-sebelius-violated-hatch-act-081122
She was wrong, and violated the Hatch Act as was pointed out.
Do you have any idea how many people have violated it in the last 2 days? Everyone except Trump and Pence (exempt) that is a federal employee practicing partisan political activity. Not to mention being in the White House itself.
As an aside, I loved seeing Bondi. She was going to join Florida in the suit against Trump's sham University.
Then magically she got a $25,000 campaign contribution from Trump's "charity" and decided to withdraw from that suit.
Of course Trump had to pay a $2500 fine, because "charities" can't make political donations.
Then later had to shut the "charity" down and repay $2 million for misusing the "charity" for personal reasons.
What are you going to do. Grifters are going to grift and lie.
xudash
08-26-2020, 12:47 PM
That first quote was in response to me saying it's unfortunate that people can't admit to a weakness of the other party, instead pointing out failings of the other side.
The second quote is you commenting to someone who pointed out someone on your side of the aisle making pretty inappropriate comments.
Apparently you could agree more.
Public reps as well.
She was fantastic last night. Focused on addressing drug addiction. Addressed the importance of making good educational opportunities available for everyone.
An uplifting convention as compared to the negative, empty, fear mongering display Beijing Biden put on.
bobbiemcgee
08-26-2020, 01:04 PM
Had to spit out my beer when she said "America deserves complete honesty from their president" He's lied 20k x.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/08/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/
X-man
08-26-2020, 01:24 PM
Just more examples of the intolerant left. If anyone on the right says something even close to this, the left demands that the person be fired and their life be ruined. And sadly, X-Man can't even admit that the above is wrong. Most leftists are probably nodding their heads when they hear or read the above garbage and say, "That's true!!"
But there's no standard like a double standard.
Read post #7024.
paulxu
08-26-2020, 01:47 PM
Public reps as well.
She was fantastic last night. Focused on addressing drug addiction. Addressed the importance of making good educational opportunities available for everyone.
An uplifting convention as compared to the negative, empty, fear mongering display Beijing Biden put on.
She was the best thing, although it must be hard to say you think the president is a person of truth. That's quite obviously not correct.
As to the rest, most of it, and night one, I found rather repetitive. It was all about stoking fear of the "other" who (they call democrats) are coming to do something bad to you. Be afraid. Hide the children.
Was quite the sort of demagoguery bowing and scrapping you might expect. The president is the only one who can save you.
Just like he was the only one who could build a wall that Mexico would pay for, could fix all that was wrong with the booming economy, etc.
Would love to hear some policy (even if there is no policy platform). All I got was shouting and yelling and stoking of fear.
xudash
08-26-2020, 02:29 PM
She was the best thing, although it must be hard to say you think the president is a person of truth. That's quite obviously not correct.
As to the rest, most of it, and night one, I found rather repetitive. It was all about stoking fear of the "other" who (they call democrats) are coming to do something bad to you. Be afraid. Hide the children.
Was quite the sort of demagoguery bowing and scrapping you might expect. The president is the only one who can save you.
Just like he was the only one who could build a wall that Mexico would pay for, could fix all that was wrong with the booming economy, etc.
Would love to hear some policy (even if there is no policy platform). All I got was shouting and yelling and stoking of fear.
Paul, you keep asking for policy? Why?
It's been made repeatedly clear:
1. American Economy. Focus what is best for the United States and on jobs at all levels of society - for Americans. That means blowing up old terrible trade deals, bringing manufacturing jobs back home, favorable tax policy that benefits all citizens (yes, his tax cuts are helping everyone). This focus versus your party's idiotic globalist emphasis.
2. Manage the relationship with China in a manner that is favorable to U.S. interests - jobs, mainly. Understand that communist regimes must be dealt with carefully and at arms length (unlike what Biden did for his relatives).
3. Legal immigration. It's the right thing to do, it's how the country became what it is today, and, among other things, it will help reduce crime (M13) and drugs (M13 and others).
4. Strong national defense. Keep bringing the boys home. You keep citing examples, including the Bush's, of RINO's and old guard Republicans that are against Trump, as though that is an indication of why people should not vote for Trump. I have news for you: THEIR REACTION TO TRUMP IS EXACTLY THE REASON WHY EVERYONE SHOULD VOTE FOR TRUMP. This "drain the swamp" thing has credibility. He's turning old-business-D.C. on its head, and that includes the military-industrial complex. Making allies pay their fare share also was a strong move.
5. Right to Life. Never been supported by a sitting U.S. President directly before. Your Democratic Party believes in murdering the unborn.
6. Law and Order. Your party embraces looters, rioting, and the elimination of history.
You shouldn't be bringing up discussions concerning policy. REAL POLICY, not Democratic Party empty suites platitudes.
Biden's record in D.C., other than what he accomplished in enriching his own family, is void of accomplishment.
noteggs
08-26-2020, 03:13 PM
For those who want to know Trump’s 2020 plan, along with Dash’s post here’s a link. Sounds like you’ll hear more on Thursday.
Let’s be honest, DNC convention spent the majority of time stating he’s not Trump, even Biden’s speech. Of course there was the token raise taxes on the rich, create green jobs, mandatory masks, and lowering premiums (heard that promise about a decade ago).
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/trump-campaign-announces-president-trumps-2nd-term-agenda-fighting-for-you
paulxu
08-26-2020, 03:29 PM
Dash, come on. Our party doesn't embrace looters, etc. That's a talking point from last night.
And you don't really believe Trump has drained any swamp, do you?
He just raised the rates on his hotel during convention week. Money in his pocket.
He tried to use his ambassador to the get the Open at his course in Scotland.
And he's drained the swamp?
GoMuskies
08-26-2020, 03:35 PM
Dash, come on. Our party doesn't embrace looters
Maybe not, but the Democratic Party is doing a gawdawful, terrible job of distancing themselves from looters.
paulxu
08-26-2020, 03:38 PM
2. Manage the relationship with China in a manner that is favorable to U.S. interests - jobs, mainly. Understand that communist regimes must be dealt with carefully and at arms length (unlike what Biden did for his relatives).
I did have to laugh (did you drop this one in for laughs).
You are talking about Trump who:
1 - had a lot of his (let's bring jobs to America) Trump merchandise actually made in China
2 - Whose daughter had her name brand stuff made in China, and now has 5 new patents there.
paulxu
08-26-2020, 03:40 PM
Maybe not, but the Democratic Party is doing a gawdawful, terrible job of distancing themselves from looters.
Biden has constantly said the looting and rioting are wrong. Just repeated it 35 minutes ago.
You might never know this if you only listened to Fox and the convention going on.
GoMuskies
08-26-2020, 03:44 PM
Yes, I'm Mr. Fox News. He'll have to do better than to just say that it's wrong. Has he made any statements in support of the police who are tasked with stopping such rioting/looting?
For the broader party, the Democrat mayors of the affected cities are absolutely seen as tolerating/kowtowing to the mob.
Muskie in dayton
08-26-2020, 03:49 PM
Biden has constantly said the looting and rioting are wrong. Just repeated it 35 minutes ago.
You might never know this if you only listened to Fox and the convention going on.
Do you have a source? A Google search only turned up Biden’s riot condemnation from May:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-condemns-riots-over-george-floyd-death-calls-for-end-to-needless-destruction.amp
xudash
08-26-2020, 03:50 PM
Dash, come on. Our party doesn't embrace looters, etc. That's a talking point from last night.
And you don't really believe Trump has drained any swamp, do you?
He just raised the rates on his hotel during convention week. Money in his pocket.
He tried to use his ambassador to the get the Open at his course in Scotland.
And he's drained the swamp?
Paul, if I wrote that he has DRAINED the swamp, that isn’t true. What I am stating is that he is attempting to drain it. IMHO, he’ll make progress in the next 4 years if re-elected, but I doubt it can be completely drained. I spent enough time on K Street and around its various nooks and crannies to know better.
And you really shouldn’t go down the influence road examples you provide. Certainly not with Biden’s disgusting record, and not to mention how Obama and the Clinton’s have made out.
GoMuskies
08-26-2020, 03:51 PM
Do you have a source? A Google search only turned up Biden’s riot condemnation from May:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-condemns-riots-over-george-floyd-death-calls-for-end-to-needless-destruction.amp
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1298697722304888833?s=20
paulxu
08-26-2020, 04:03 PM
Do you have a source? A Google search only turned up Biden’s riot condemnation from May:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-condemns-riots-over-george-floyd-death-calls-for-end-to-needless-destruction.amp
I don't do twitter. But he posted in the last hour:
Needless violence won’t heal us. We need to end the violence — and peacefully come together to demand justice.
xudash
08-26-2020, 04:08 PM
I did have to laugh (did you drop this one in for laughs).
You are talking about Trump who:
1 - had a lot of his (let's bring jobs to America) Trump merchandise actually made in China
2 - Whose daughter had her name brand stuff made in China, and now has 5 new patents there.
You keep bringing up truly inane points. And Biden’s behavior in this area is much worse.
Right or wrong, you are comparing people who own legitimate businesses who are looking for a competitive edge versus a politician who is using political office, peddling influence for personal family gain. Every time you cite an example of something wrong that Trump does in this area or that you believe he has done, you ignore things like the Clinton Foundation, etc. You ignore the fact that Obama is sitting on Martha’s Vineyard in a $12 million home. That is pretty good for a community organizer from Chicago.
But it’s bigger than that: you’re simply deflecting, with no ground to stand on here. It is a fact that what Trump is doing with China is being done in the best interests of the United States of America. These tit for tat’s are petty if you otherwise want to be serious about discussing policy and what Trump’s actions and results are doing for this country.
You believe he is all about lies, corruption, and shady deals. What we do know is that he has a rather extensive resume of charitable giving and that he gives 100% of his current salary away. You cite his business failures as though they should mean something. Well, they probably should mean something if he otherwise was a complete failure in business. I don’t believe anyone is in position to accuse him of being a failure in business, given his current financial standing and asset portfolio.
Though it sounds that way, I truly am not a ”Trumper”. Maybe his ego wouldn’t let him, but I truly do believe he would be more “presidential“ if the Far left, the corrupt media, and the establishment in Washington were not out to get him. You believe he went into the office to enrich him self. Sorry my friend, that is utter bullshit. He was already wealthy enough without having to go through the inane nonsense that he has to live through every day by occupying that office.
He is a non-politician, and that is a good thing. Compare that to Biden, who is nothing but an empty suit, who does embrace anyone that will vote for him, including rioters and looters, and who is an abject failure as a parent, unless you find Hunter Biden‘s life resume to be acceptable.
paulxu
08-26-2020, 04:09 PM
Sorry Dash. I can find no evidence of him attempting to drain the swamp.
Quite the contrary. His time is replete with efforts to line his own pockets.
And I never hear any Republicans saying a thing.
G-7 at Doral? Really?
I suspect when his time is over, you'll see the curtain pulled back on all of his grifting, and it won't be pretty.
GoMuskies
08-26-2020, 04:11 PM
The NBA is apparently going on hiatus.
bobbiemcgee
08-26-2020, 04:13 PM
Hunter Biden again really? Hope Hicks got 2 million for a year and a half with Fox for doing essentially nothing and no pub is bitching about that. Don, jr. has the RNC buy up all his stupid books for a huge profit and get gigantic loans from China. Again, double standard.
Xville
08-26-2020, 04:16 PM
The NBA is apparently going on hiatus.
If no one cares, did it really happen? That league is a joke anyways. I'd be perfectly fine if that league along with mlb went the way of the dinosaur.
paulxu
08-26-2020, 04:17 PM
Right or wrong, you are comparing people who own legitimate businesses who are looking for a competitive edge versus a politician who is using political office, peddling influence for personal family gain. Every time you cite an example of something wrong that Trump does in this area or that you believe he has done, you ignore things like the Clinton Foundation, etc. You ignore the fact that Obama is sitting on Martha’s Vineyard in a $12 million home. That is pretty good for a community organizer from Chicago
Just think about what you wrote for a minute.
Trump owns legitimate business but he is not "using political office, peddling influence for personal family gain."
That is exactly what he is doing with his hotels, and booking agents into his resorts, etc. Exactly
Obama and the Clintons released their taxes. You could see where their money came from. Did Trump? Of course not.
If the former made money selling a book, and bought a house, good for them. If there were things that were a crime, you know Trump's people would have them up quickly.
The Clinton foundation gets high marks from all the charity measurement sites. Their books are public. The Clintons don't get a salary.
Yet you totally overlook the fake university and the sham charity Trump ran...and actually paid back money to because he was using it for personal gain
You've got to be realistic about these thing.
xudash
08-26-2020, 04:28 PM
Just think about what you wrote for a minute.
Trump owns legitimate business but he is not "using political office, peddling influence for personal family gain."
That is exactly what he is doing with his hotels, and booking agents into his resorts, etc. Exactly
Obama and the Clintons released their taxes. You could see where their money came from. Did Trump? Of course not.
If the former made money selling a book, and bought a house, good for them. If there were things that were a crime, you know Trump's people would have them up quickly.
The Clinton foundation gets high marks from all the charity measurement sites. Their books are public. The Clintons don't get a salary.
Yet you totally overlook the fake university and the sham charity Trump ran...and actually paid back money to because he was using it for personal gain
You've got to be realistic about these thing.
Paul, let’s just agree to disagree on everything. I am not going to pursue a dialogue that involves the Clinton Foundation being held up as some form of beacon of light.
Cute point about the tax returns. You must’ve missed how the home purchase on Martha’s Vineyard with structured. Seriously.
bobbiemcgee
08-26-2020, 04:41 PM
Yeah, he got a mortgage loan from chase. Earth shattering.
XU_Lou
08-26-2020, 04:45 PM
Dash - honestly, you're probably wasting your time with PaulXU - the dude is completely brainwashed, and obviously can't think for himself.
Moreover, Trump is going to crush Biden. It's OVER... Zogby Analytics approval rating for Trump is now at 52%:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trump-pops-to-52-best-job-approval-rating-on-record-up-with-blacks-even-democrats
Trump recently had 3 straight days at 51% approval on Rasmussen - a first for that.
Even Dumb Don Lemon is starting to freak out: https://twitter.com/JohnWMarxII/status/1298596666434441217
More Dem panic: https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1298466988486950913
paulxu
08-26-2020, 04:57 PM
Paul, let’s just agree to disagree on everything. I am not going to pursue a dialogue that involves the Clinton Foundation being held up as some form of beacon of light.
Cute point about the tax returns. You must’ve missed how the home purchase on Martha’s Vineyard with structured. Seriously.
OK. But you gotta admit he scammed everyone about releasing his tax returns.
I'm sure we'll continue to disagree, but what particular point in my post is not factual? Would be interested to know if you found anything like that, or you just don't like the implication of the facts.
X-band '01
08-26-2020, 05:00 PM
If no one cares, did it really happen? That league is a joke anyways. I'd be perfectly fine if that league along with mlb went the way of the dinosaur.
I'd much rather see the NFL boycott games instead. Far more people would lose their shit if that happened than the NBA, frankly.
X-band '01
08-26-2020, 05:02 PM
OK. But you gotta admit he scammed everyone about releasing his tax returns.
I'm sure we'll continue to disagree, but what particular point in my post is not factual? Would be interested to know if you found anything like that, or you just don't like the implication of the facts.
Part of me wants to see Trump re-elected just to see Democrats throw a tantrum for four more years over his returns when it's more likely that the State of New York (or Southern District of New York?) will find a way to get their hands on that and financial records.
And part of me wants to see Biden elected just to see if they magically decide it's no longer worth the trouble to go after his records with Trump out of office.
Xville
08-26-2020, 06:25 PM
Oh those nba and mlb players along with espn are so woke. Let's not reflect on the fact that this scumbag had multiple charges pending against him including sexual assault, didnt comply with orders, reached into his car etc. Let's just act like the next Nobel prize winner got shot...what the Hell ever.
Trump is going to get elected because of all of this and I'm gonna laugh my ass off at all the woke pussies
bjf123
08-26-2020, 07:34 PM
He just raised the rates on his hotel during convention week. Money in his pocket.
And you don’t think every other hotel in the area did the same thing? A number of years ago, my wife and I were in Chicago for the weekend, staying on Michigan Avenue. I think the hotel room was $275-$300 per night. We looked into staying Sunday night, but the rate for the same room more than doubled to about $650. We asked the hotel why and they said there was an anesthesiologists convention starting first thing Monday morning. Increased demand from people with deep pockets means the rates skyrocket. Happens all the time.
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bjf123
08-26-2020, 07:51 PM
The Clinton foundation gets high marks from all the charity measurement sites. Their books are public. The Clintons don't get a salary.
Didn’t donations to The Clinton Foundation fall off a cliff after Hillary lost the election in 2016? Coincidence? I think not.
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bobbiemcgee
08-26-2020, 08:31 PM
And you don’t think every other hotel in the area did the same thing? A number of years ago, my wife and I were in Chicago for the weekend, staying on Michigan Avenue. I think the hotel room was $275-$300 per night. We looked into staying Sunday night, but the rate for the same room more than doubled to about $650. We asked the hotel why and they said there was an anesthesiologists convention starting first thing Monday morning. Increased demand from people with deep pockets means the rates skyrocket. Happens all the time.
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Did trump own the hotel? Were you going to pay $2000 a nite? Clearly he was stuffing his own pockets with the event at the WH (the PEOPLE'S HOUSE). Also, all his cronies will be sure to mention they stayed there to gain political favor.
X-band '01
08-26-2020, 08:51 PM
I thought Mar-a-lago was the People's House now.
bobbiemcgee
08-26-2020, 08:58 PM
I don't think Rasmussen calls cell phones. Just a robo call to old people with landlines.
paulxu
08-26-2020, 09:29 PM
Trump recently had 3 straight days at 51% approval on Rasmussen - a first for that.
I don't think Rasmussen calls cell phones. Just a robo call to old people with landlines.
Convention bump?
One week ago Trump proudly tweeted that he had reached a peak approval rating of 51% as surveyed by the disreputable right-wing pollster, Rasmussen Reports. Rasmussen is without a doubt Trump's favorite pollster and the only one who has ever shown Trump with a majority approval rating.
Now, after two days of RNC ranting, and worshipful characterizations of Trump as Messiah, Rasmussen has him at 47% approve, 51% disapprove. That's a four point drop (and an eight point negative swing) that occurred in just the two days since the convention began.
xudash
08-26-2020, 09:48 PM
Jack Brewer is blowing away Bejiing Biden and Kamala.
Black Voices for America.
And he followed a nun and Lou Holtz.
Fun stuff.
bobbiemcgee
08-26-2020, 09:58 PM
Glad i can watch the Rockies games all week.
GoMuskies
08-26-2020, 10:08 PM
Glad i can watch the Rockies games all week.
Until the full MLB joins the boycott.
XU_Lou
08-26-2020, 11:37 PM
Did trump own the hotel? Were you going to pay $2000 a nite? Clearly he was stuffing his own pockets with the event at the WH (the PEOPLE'S HOUSE). Also, all his cronies will be sure to mention they stayed there to gain political favor.
Don't worry about the vicious Democrat thugs burning our cities down and terrorizing their neighbors, lets focus on the real important problems... Hey, maybe Nancy Pelosi can use this to try to impeach Trump next year - after he wins in November...
XU_Lou
08-26-2020, 11:38 PM
I don't think Rasmussen calls cell phones. Just a robo call to old people with landlines.
And Zogby?
X-band '01
08-26-2020, 11:51 PM
Until the full MLB joins the boycott.
The whole NBA bubble will beat them to it.
bobbiemcgee
08-27-2020, 12:16 AM
And Zogby?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/
GoMuskies
08-27-2020, 12:25 AM
Protests are fiery but mostly peaceful. :dunno:
https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1298832317033705472?s=20
X-band '01
08-27-2020, 07:09 AM
Oh those nba and mlb players along with espn are so woke. Let's not reflect on the fact that this scumbag had multiple charges pending against him including sexual assault, didnt comply with orders, reached into his car etc. Let's just act like the next Nobel prize winner got shot...what the Hell ever.
Trump is going to get elected because of all of this and I'm gonna laugh my ass off at all the woke pussies
It's not just about one person getting shot seven times and becoming a paraplegic, it's also about 2 other black protesters who WERE fatally shot by a white teenager claiming to be part of Blue Lives Matter.
I'd be pretty fucking pissed too if I had to live this nightmare day in and day out.
Xville
08-27-2020, 07:41 AM
It's not just about one person getting shot seven times and becoming a paraplegic, it's also about 2 other black protesters who WERE fatally shot by a white teenager claiming to be part of Blue Lives Matter.
I'd be pretty fucking pissed too if I had to live this nightmare day in and day out.
While I agree what that 17 year old is disgusting and he should be in jail the rest of his life, that is not the focus. No one has to live this nightmare day in and day out...what the hell are you talking about.
Muskie in dayton
08-27-2020, 08:00 AM
It's not just about one person getting shot seven times and becoming a paraplegic, it's also about 2 other black protesters who WERE fatally shot by a white teenager claiming to be part of Blue Lives Matter.
I'd be pretty fucking pissed too if I had to live this nightmare day in and day out.
What did I miss? I can’t find anything about from a google search.
Xville
08-27-2020, 08:04 AM
What did I miss? I can’t find anything about from a google search.
nutjob 17 year old shot and killed two protestors in Kenosha. While horrible, thats not why the NBA and some mlb teams did what they did...hasn't even been mentioned in those circles.
Muskie in dayton
08-27-2020, 08:47 AM
nutjob 17 year old shot and killed two protestors in Kenosha. While horrible, thats not why the NBA and some mlb teams did what they did...hasn't even been mentioned in those circles.
OK, so you guys mean the 17 year old that shot two white Antifa rioters who chased him down, one holding a hand gun, one throwing molotov cocktail, then tackling him, and beating before he shot in self defense. He then called police to report himself and turn himself in. True Facts Matter.
https://abc30.com/kenosha-shooting-jacob-blake-protests-wisconsin/6389473/
Also I can't find that there's a "Blue Lives Matter" group, so that appears made up too. There is a Blue Man Group though. Totally different. TFM.
After watching that video, do you still agree he should be in jail for the rest of his life? I'll grant that there may be a lot more to the story, but from that clip, not even close.
Xville
08-27-2020, 08:55 AM
OK, so you guys mean the 17 year old that shot two white Antifa rioters who chased him down, one holding a hand gun, one throwing molotov cocktail, then tackling him, and beating before he shot in self defense. He then called police to report himself and turn himself in. True Facts Matter.
https://abc30.com/kenosha-shooting-jacob-blake-protests-wisconsin/6389473/
Also I can't find that there's a "Blue Lives Matter" group, so that appears made up too. There is a Blue Man Group though. Totally different. TFM.
After watching that video, do you still agree he should be in jail for the rest of his life? I'll grant that there may be a lot more to the story, but from that clip, not even close.
Yeah I do believe he should be in jail the rest of his life. There is a thing called personal responsibility that is lost in the world right now. So just like Jacob blake, this 17 year old moron should face the consequences of his actions. He went to a protest with a semi automatic gun...chances of something happening to him? Pretty damn high.
Muskie in dayton
08-27-2020, 10:10 AM
Yeah I do believe he should be in jail the rest of his life. There is a thing called personal responsibility that is lost in the world right now. So just like Jacob blake, this 17 year old moron should face the consequences of his actions. He went to a protest with a semi automatic gun...chances of something happening to him? Pretty damn high.
Fair enough. What if this happened to someone outside their own store or their own house defending it with the gun?
GoMuskies
08-27-2020, 10:15 AM
He won't be in jail the rest of his life. He'll serve like 5 years.
X Factor
08-27-2020, 10:22 AM
It's not just about one person getting shot seven times and becoming a paraplegic, it's also about 2 other black protesters who WERE fatally shot by a white teenager claiming to be part of Blue Lives Matter.
I'd be pretty fucking pissed too if I had to live this nightmare day in and day out.
First off, he shot and killed TWO WHITE people!
Show me where he claimed to be supporting Blue Lives Matter, even though that's not even a real organization.
https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1298776265197985799
I mean the media is going to do everything they can to convince people he was a racist (even though he shot and killed two WHITE people), and that he was the biggest Trump supporter on Earth.
Maybe he is, but nothing I've read so far indicates that to be true.
I've watched a few clips of the incidents, and it clearly shows him running away, being chased by some guys BEFORE turning around and shooting one of them. Another clips shows him running down the street being chased again, and another guy hitting him with a skateboard knocking him to the ground, where he then fired and shot the second guy.
Also, one of the guys chasing him was carrying a handgun.
GoMuskies
08-27-2020, 11:06 AM
Excellent interview on The Rising to explain how Kyle Rittenhouse ended up killing two people.
https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1298996876687970308?s=20
Juice
08-27-2020, 11:18 AM
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1298857915202314240?s=20
One of the people killed was a sex offender who was earlier in the night saying "shoot me n*gga" several times.
GoMuskies
08-27-2020, 11:32 AM
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1298857915202314240?s=20
One of the people killed was a sex offender who was earlier in the night saying "shoot me n*gga" several times.
Hmm, doesn't seem like anyone has their "best people" in Kenosha.
GoMuskies
08-27-2020, 12:03 PM
Our long national nightmare is FINALLY over: the NBA players have decided to slog on with the playoffs.
Xville
08-27-2020, 12:18 PM
Our long national nightmare is FINALLY over: the NBA players have decided to slog on with the playoffs.
La whiney james didnt get his way and now the nba can continue handing the Lakers a championship?
Muskie in dayton
08-27-2020, 12:38 PM
Proof they're just looking for a reason to burn, steal and injure. Guys shoots himself in the head in plain view (and on video) and "protesters" claim it was the cops:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minneapolis-unrest-national-guard-black-man-suicide-misinformation/?ocid=uxbndlbing
I learned of this on Twitter. One guy's backpedal to keep blaming the cops was, "Well the cops should have been able to shoot the gun out of the guys hand. They need better training". Seriously.
Smails
08-27-2020, 01:06 PM
Proof they're just looking for a reason to burn, steal and injure. Guys shoots himself in the head in plain view (and on video) and "protesters" claim it was the cops:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minneapolis-unrest-national-guard-black-man-suicide-misinformation/?ocid=uxbndlbing
I learned of this on Twitter. One guy's backpedal to keep blaming the cops was, "Well the cops should have been able to shoot the gun out of the guys hand. They need better training". Seriously.
Opportunism at its core
xavierj
08-27-2020, 01:09 PM
What we are seeing is a result of the everyone gets a trophy era so we don’t hurt anyone’s feelings. Everyone is entitled. Sad state of affairs.
X Factor
08-27-2020, 02:12 PM
This interview probably didn't go in the direction that Don Lemon hoped it would...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ufSn2b9glw
noteggs
08-27-2020, 02:45 PM
This interview probably didn't go in the direction that Don Lemon hoped it would...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ufSn2b9glw
Regardless of political aspects of this, you gotta admire Julia Jackson’s strength, wisdom and faith during this difficult time. A stark difference with Michael Brown’s parents.
Masterofreality
08-27-2020, 02:46 PM
Convention bump?
Except that Rasmussen was the most accurate poll in the 2016 Election, per Real Clear Politics, and in an article in The Hill dated November 18, 2016.
https://thehill.com/media/306721-rasmussen-calls-itself-most-accurate-pollster-of-2016
Masterofreality
08-27-2020, 02:51 PM
First off, he shot and killed TWO WHITE people!
Show me where he claimed to be supporting Blue Lives Matter, even though that's not even a real organization.
https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1298776265197985799
I mean the media is going to do everything they can to convince people he was a racist (even though he shot and killed two WHITE people), and that he was the biggest Trump supporter on Earth.
Maybe he is, but nothing I've read so far indicates that to be true.
I've watched a few clips of the incidents, and it clearly shows him running away, being chased by some guys BEFORE turning around and shooting one of them. Another clips shows him running down the street being chased again, and another guy hitting him with a skateboard knocking him to the ground, where he then fired and shot the second guy.
Also, one of the guys chasing him was carrying a handgun.
Soooo, this is what happens
A) When there are no Police around to referee Antifa and Militias who are trying to protect businesses.
B) A Democrat Governor who refuses a Federal offer of the National Guard. Then sends a reduced Guard force in..much less than offered.
But yeah, after the dude who was shouting "Shoot Me Ni**er" gets shot, the anarchists-who want to defund Police-around him shout "Call The Police"!!
Can't have it both ways, idiots.
Masterofreality
08-27-2020, 02:54 PM
Part of me wants to see Trump re-elected just to see Democrats throw a tantrum for four more years over his returns when it's more likely that the State of New York (or Southern District of New York?) will find a way to get their hands on that and financial records.
And part of me wants to see Biden elected just to see if they magically decide it's no longer worth the trouble to go after his records with Trump out of office.
Memo: They won't according to the Wicked Witch of the West Nancy Pelosi today.
We ought to go after that multi-millionaire's tax returns.
paulxu
08-27-2020, 03:00 PM
Grifters gonna grift. Even if no one is staying in the rooms...taxpayers will pay Trump....just in case, you know.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-company-secret-service-spending/2020/08/27/9331bd86-de36-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_trumpsecretservice-1150am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans
XU_Lou
08-27-2020, 03:27 PM
Grifters gonna grift. Even if no one is staying in the rooms...taxpayers will pay Trump....just in case, you know.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-company-secret-service-spending/2020/08/27/9331bd86-de36-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_trumpsecretservice-1150am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans
Umm, who cares???
XU_Lou
08-27-2020, 03:30 PM
Jason Whitlock:
Jacob Blake, George Floyd, Eric Garner and Rayshard Brooks are not examples of “systemic racism.” If anything, they’re examples of “systemic resisting arrest.”
"James (LeBron) is the Al Sharpton of sports"
https://www.outkick.com/career-politicians-who-created-systemic-unfairness-are-playing-lebron-and-his-disciples-for-suckers/
XU_Lou
08-27-2020, 03:34 PM
More truth bombs from Jason Whitlock:
The Detroit Lions canceled practice so they could speak out on behalf of a man wanted for sexual assault. The city of Kenosha is being burned to the ground on behalf of a man who wrestled with police and wouldn’t comply with instructions at gunpoint.
Across the country, police kill roughly 250 to 300 black people a year. The overwhelming majority of those killed are armed and violently resisting arrest. Thousands of black people are killed by black people every year. In Detroit alone roughly 250 black people are murdered annually. The majority of the murders go unsolved.
The Detroit Lions do not care.
https://www.outkick.com/career-politicians-who-created-systemic-unfairness-are-playing-lebron-and-his-disciples-for-suckers/
XU_Lou
08-27-2020, 03:49 PM
Except that Rasmussen was the most accurate poll in the 2016 Election, per Real Clear Politics, and in an article in The Hill dated November 18, 2016.
https://thehill.com/media/306721-rasmussen-calls-itself-most-accurate-pollster-of-2016
The stock market is also saying Trump....
https://liveindex.org/s&p-500/
Xville
08-27-2020, 05:12 PM
According to Biden, Ferguson and Baltimore didn't happen. Senile or lying...your pick.
GoMuskies
08-27-2020, 05:26 PM
Here is a good video on the Rittenhouse shootings. They look pretty justified to me. He shouldn't have been there in the first place, but he wasn't the aggressor. Sorry for the stoner commentator! :)
https://youtu.be/rdMTghlrFiw
If you go to the video through Twitter, you don't have to log in to YouTube.
https://twitter.com/ClassFirster/status/1298833915512147968?s=20
Juice
08-27-2020, 05:31 PM
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1299086141329563648
The guy that go his arm nearly blown off by the 17 year old told a friend that he regrets not being able to kill the kid. I'm sure the moron knows that it cements the 17 year old's self defense claim (against him at least).
https://twitter.com/firstcitizensam/status/1299087825854316549
And this video shows the guy approaching Rittenhouse with his firearm in his hand. This is self defense to a T.
Regardless of political aspects of this, you gotta admire Julia Jackson’s strength, wisdom and faith during this difficult time. A stark difference with Michael Brown’s parents.
That was very impressive.
GoMuskies
08-27-2020, 05:42 PM
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1299086141329563648
The guy that go his arm nearly blown off by the 17 year old told a friend that he regrets not being able to kill the kid. I'm sure the moron knows that it cements the 17 year old's self defense claim (against him at least).
https://twitter.com/firstcitizensam/status/1299087825854316549
And this video shows the guy approaching Rittenhouse with his firearm in his hand. This is self defense to a T.
Here's a still shot of the guy still somehow holding the gun with his half blown off arm.
https://twitter.com/2ndtoLastBBQ/status/1298850808050548738?s=20
XU_Lou
08-27-2020, 05:44 PM
Psycho Democrat losers at it again:
https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1298351041453285376
Muskie in dayton
08-27-2020, 05:54 PM
Regardless of political aspects of this, you gotta admire Julia Jackson’s strength, wisdom and faith during this difficult time. A stark difference with Michael Brown’s parents.
Wow, what impressive people, especially in light of the circumstances. They have my utmost respect and sympathy.
bobbiemcgee
08-27-2020, 06:00 PM
One has to ask "Where were the parents?"
Dad: "Where are you going with that AR-15 tonight son"
Kyle; Oh, I thought I'd pop in the violent protest over in Kenosha"
Mom: Don't forget to take your slicker son, it might rain"
Maybe they should do time.
GoMuskies
08-27-2020, 06:02 PM
The parents of the three who were shot should probably also do time, because they apparently raised some REALLY stupid kids.
xudash
08-27-2020, 06:04 PM
Democrats are literally stupid for letting the Far Left seize its soul.
- USSR
- Venezuela
- Cuba
The gentleman that escaped Cuba who spoke last night was so eloquent. First hand experience and a passionate speech about freedom and what it is to be an American.
Yet Biden and Harris are tied to the mast now. The Far Left Media, ANTIFA, and BLM could still very well pull the Democratic Party down, no matter how hard it attempts to rig the election.
The greatest President in the 20th Century was FDR. He wasn’t perfect in handling the Great Depression, but he was effective. Also, if you think about it, we talk in terms of WWII when discussing that epic conflict, yet we were actually engaged in two primary wars on two parts of the globe with both Germany and Japan, if you think about it.
The reasonable progressive agenda was pissed away by the Republicans probably by the people who undermined Teddy. That opened the door for the Democrats.
Moving past FDR, letting Truman off the hook, and understanding that Kennedy would have been a Republican with respect to economic and tax policy by today’s standards, it’s been ugly for that party ever since. LBJ was a DISASTER with The Great Society. The peanut farmer was well intentioned, but that was about it. Clinton couldn’t keep his wife under control when he was first elected, and couldn’t keep his fly zipped up during his presidency. Obama was a race-baiting, global apologist who was a disgrace, and who remains so today. His wife is a hideous anti-American phony.
At any rate, is a seismic shift coming? The socialist, elitist, pander-to-the-coasts Democrats seem to be gutting big strips of their support. The Republican Party screwed the pooch over 100 years ago. Perhaps we’re living during an historical time. If anyone is capable of screwing things up and looking stupid, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer and Harris fit the bill.
Independents, conservative Democrats and RINO’s may be shifting towards Trump if they weren’t already doing so. Stupid liberal tax proposals, supporting rioting and looting in Democratic controlled cities, and the liberal left’s other inane ideas are simply a road to hell.
XU_Lou
08-27-2020, 06:08 PM
One has to ask "Where were the parents?"
Dad: "Where are you going with that AR-15 tonight son"
Kyle; Oh, I thought I'd pop in the violent protest over in Kenosha"
Mom: Don't forget to take your slicker son, it might rain"
Maybe they should do time.
Wow, really? What about all the parent of the thousands of BLM & Antifa rioters and looters?
Dad: "Where are you going with that cement bomb tonight son"
Kyle; Oh, I thought I'd go bash some cops head with one over in Portland"
Mom: Don't forget to take your slicker son, it might rain"
bobbiemcgee
08-27-2020, 06:24 PM
Thanks. You made my point for me. If a punk 17 yr. old kid is leaving the house with a cement bomb, I'd say the same thing. Guess you have different parenting "skills".
I think I would say " Son, you aren't taking an AR-15 or a cement bomb down to crazytown tonight. Now go do your homework"
XU_Lou
08-27-2020, 06:37 PM
Thanks. You made my point for me. If a punk 17 yr. old kid is leaving the house with a cement bomb, I'd say the same thing. Guess you have different parenting "skills".
The problem is that you've had 91 days to say something and I haven't seen it from you!
Moreover, your equating a mole hill to a mountain - this is so typical of liberals who always try to shift the blame. You can't escape this - you own these bigoted rioters and America-haters - this is YOUR Democrat Party!
xavierj
08-27-2020, 06:56 PM
This might be a problem for UC. I am sure a lot of supporters work in law enforcement. Might want to teach some social media etiquette over in Clifton.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TAR13ASON/status/1298851935332847616
X Factor
08-27-2020, 06:59 PM
Biden, today, lied through his dentures on MSNB by saying Trump is rooting for more violence and encouraging more violence. Is he serious?
Trump has offered to send help to every major city dealing with riots, and most of the time, the mayors and governors of those cities and states have refused any federal law enforcement / military help to stop the violence.
Biden is a joke. Pathetic, career politician who's never accomplished anything.
bobbiemcgee
08-27-2020, 07:36 PM
You, of course, are aware that forbes sez trump lies 23.5x a day. And who wants federal troops in our cities. Nobody. Releasing American military on our citizens? Stupid.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/#5e7457f41e17
noteggs
08-27-2020, 07:48 PM
Biden, today, lied through his dentures on MSNB by saying Trump is rooting for more violence and encouraging more violence. Is he serious?
Obviously Biden’s internal polling is saying the riots/protests are hurting his campaign. Good for him to do a teleprompter tidbit to denounce it on Wednesday.
However after a quick surprise interview you mentioned, now you can see why they are limited and done differently from yesterday.
Xville
08-27-2020, 08:04 PM
The parents of the three who were shot should probably also do time, because they apparently raised some REALLY stupid kids.
Yep they are all stupid with stupid parents and I'm guessing physically or certainly emotionally non present parents
Xville
08-27-2020, 08:09 PM
Biden, today, lied through his dentures on MSNB by saying Trump is rooting for more violence and encouraging more violence. Is he serious?
Trump has offered to send help to every major city dealing with riots, and most of the time, the mayors and governors of those cities and states have refused any federal law enforcement / military help to stop the violence.
Biden is a joke. Pathetic, career politician who's never accomplished anything.
I mean secretly he probably is rooting a little bit for it because it's going to help him get elected, but yeah I know what you are doing.
Xville
08-27-2020, 08:11 PM
You, of course, are aware that forbes sez trump lies 23.5x a day. And who wants federal troops in our cities. Nobody. Releasing American military on our citizens? Stupid.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/#5e7457f41e17
Lefties are the only ones who dont...they love the rioting
By the way, I stopped reading as soon as I read " I'm an academic...." can pretty much write off the rest of whatever that "article" said
XU_Lou
08-27-2020, 08:16 PM
You, of course, are aware that forbes sez trump lies 23.5x a day. And who wants federal troops in our cities. Nobody. Releasing American military on our citizens? Stupid.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/#5e7457f41e17
Hey Bobbie, when did you finally realize that the Russian collusion story was a complete hoax? Just curious...
Muskie in dayton
08-27-2020, 08:35 PM
This might be a problem for UC. I am sure a lot of supporters are not liberal idiots. Might want to teach some social media etiquette over in Clifton.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TAR13ASON/status/1298851935332847616
Fixed that for you.
Muskie in dayton
08-27-2020, 08:45 PM
One resists arrest, fights with cops, disobeys police orders, then reaches inside his car for something. The other calls cops to turn himself in. Yet, this remains a question...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/trevor-noah-wants-to-know-why-cops-shot-jacob-blake-7-times-but-peacefully-arrested-kyle-rittenhouse-video/ar-BB18quAq?ocid=msedgntp
Is this for real? Is this guy really that stupid?
xudash
08-27-2020, 08:51 PM
Pelosi encouraged Sleepy Joe to forgo the debates with Trump, citing the moral high ground.
Can’t make this stuff up. Trump will slaughter Biden if Biden and the Democrats have the courage and sense of duty (laugh emoji) to do the right thing and participate in the debates.
paulxu
08-27-2020, 09:39 PM
He even wants to run our press like Putin. Hopefully things like this will end soon.
The White House ordered the Washington Post to stop reporting on President Trump’s business and says it is “building up a very large ‘dossier'” on Post reporter David Fahrenthold. That information was included in a response by White House spokesperson Judd Deere to a request for comment on an article that shows the U.S. Secret Service has spent more than $900,000 at Trump properties during Trump’s presidency.
xudash
08-27-2020, 09:56 PM
He even wants to run our press like Putin. Hopefully things like this will end soon.
That’s good news. It’s time to go after the Far Left media directly in an effort to stop all the bad, biased reporting.
He doesn’t want to run it like Putin. It’s running itself like Pravda.
bobbiemcgee
08-27-2020, 10:09 PM
Lefties are the only ones who dont...they love the rioting
By the way, I stopped reading as soon as I read " I'm an academic...." can pretty much write off the rest of whatever that "article" said
Base will believe anything he says. True? Tells one whopper an hour. Thought you alt right guys liked Forbes.
bobbiemcgee
08-27-2020, 10:14 PM
Pelosi encouraged Sleepy Joe to forgo the debates with Trump, citing the moral high ground.
Can’t make this stuff up. Trump will slaughter Biden if Biden and the Democrats have the courage and sense of duty (laugh emoji) to do the right thing and participate in the debates.
Biden will have to start every sentence with..."you're a f'ing liar" because trump will lie his ass off. He can't help it.
bobbiemcgee
08-27-2020, 10:15 PM
The problem is that you've had 91 days to say something and I haven't seen it from you!
Moreover, your equating a mole hill to a mountain - this is so typical of liberals who always try to shift the blame. You can't escape this - you own these bigoted rioters and America-haters - this is YOUR Democrat Party!
Try to stay on topic. Independent 52 yrs. No idea about the 91 days - national burger day?
paulxu
08-27-2020, 10:22 PM
That’s good news. It’s time to go after the Far Left media directly in an effort to stop all the bad, biased reporting.
He doesn’t want to run it like Putin. It’s running itself like Pravda.
You really think it's good news for the White House to tell a newspaper to stop reporting and compile dossiers on reporters?
I don't believe you really think that Dash. That's what dictatorial totalitarian states do. Or have them killed like Saudi Arabia did to the Post reporter.
I can understand them being mad...after all this guy won a Pulitzer Prize for exposing the sham charity Trump was running.
But dossiers on reporters?
bobbiemcgee
08-27-2020, 10:33 PM
The parents of the three who were shot should probably also do time, because they apparently raised some REALLY stupid kids.
Not what I said, of course. Just making stuff up now.
bobbiemcgee
08-27-2020, 10:43 PM
Hey, if you wanna teach your kid to use an AR-15 when he's 15 and send him into a war zone @ 17, go ahead. Stupid.
GoMuskies
08-28-2020, 12:04 AM
Not what I said, of course. Just making stuff up now.
Uhh....what? You said Rittenhouse's parents should do time. Ok, maybe. He should not have been there. I'm simply pointing out that the three guys he shot were complete morons who also likely suffered from criminally bad parenting. Not sure what you're claiming I made up. These are four criminally stupid people. Two are dead, one has half an arm, and the other is going to serve some time. Which part do you disagree with?
X Factor
08-28-2020, 12:07 AM
Anyone see the clips of Biden's interview with Anderson Cooper? Biden can't even answer a question without reading it off a script. It was painful to watch. So slow and out of it. No way that guy is mentally competent to serve as president. If he win's, God forbid, no way he finishes his first term. He'll be drooling at the podium by the end of his first year.
X Factor
08-28-2020, 12:08 AM
Uhh....what? You said Rittenhouse's parents should do time. Ok, maybe. He should not have been there. I'm simply pointing out that the three guys he shot were complete morons who also likely suffered from criminally bad parenting. Not sure what you're claiming I made up. These are four criminally stupid people. Two are dead, one has half an arm, and the other is going to serve some time. Which part do you disagree with?
You forgot one of the dead guys was a registered sex offender. Saw someone post on Twitter, "at least he died doing something he loved, chasing after minors."
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 12:10 AM
Try to stay on topic. Independent 52 yrs. No idea about the 91 days - national burger day?
Independent, my ass.... you haven't once demonstrated anything that conservatives embrace. All we hear from you are leftist platitudes.
I'm sorry my comment went over your head. The riots have been going on for 91+ days now, and you choose the first instance of push back against the Democrat mob to decry violence. Let me be clear, I was calling you a hypocrite.
xudash
08-28-2020, 12:15 AM
You really think it's good news for the White House to tell a newspaper to stop reporting and compile dossiers on reporters?
I don't believe you really think that Dash. That's what dictatorial totalitarian states do. Or have them killed like Saudi Arabia did to the Post reporter.
I can understand them being mad...after all this guy won a Pulitzer Prize for exposing the sham charity Trump was running.
But dossiers on reporters?
The WOPO is no longer a legitimate newspaper. Please. And why didn’t he expose the Clinton’s or the impeachment farce?
I’m not talking about killing people, for the love of God.
But I nice liquidating Chapter 7 would be nice!
BTW, congratulations! Your fellow Democrats attempted to disrupt the RNC, and they’re now threatening to burn St. John’s Church and they’re beginning to riot in D.C. Your party supports this behavior, and Biden and Harris, who have been silent on the topic, now see their mistake.
Cowardice, negative vision, rioting and looting, and anarchy are the essence of the New Democratic Party.
Seriously, you should be embarrassed.
bobbiemcgee
08-28-2020, 12:18 AM
Independent, my ass.... you haven't once demonstrated anything that conservatives embrace. All we hear from you are leftist platitudes.
I'm sorry my comment went over your head. The riots have been going on for 91+ days now, and you choose the first instance of push back against the Democrat mob to decry violence. Let me be clear, I was calling you a hypocrite.
Your boy lied 20 more times tonite. Why would I embrace his party? Independents vote for anybody they want. They control the elections.
bobbiemcgee
08-28-2020, 12:25 AM
But I nice liquidating Chapter 7 would be nice!
You should consult trump on that. He's the expert on stiffing people in bankruptcy. The Wash post is owned by the richest man in the world. Pocket change.
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 12:26 AM
Your boy lied 20 more times tonite. Why would I embrace his party? Independents vote for anybody they want. They control the elections.
So I'll ask again, when did you finally realize that the Russian collusion story was a complete hoax?
bobbiemcgee
08-28-2020, 12:27 AM
Uhh....what? You said Rittenhouse's parents should do time. Ok, maybe. He should not have been there. I'm simply pointing out that the three guys he shot were complete morons who also likely suffered from criminally bad parenting. Not sure what you're claiming I made up. These are four criminally stupid people. Two are dead, one has half an arm, and the other is going to serve some time. Which part do you disagree with?
What does what I said have anything to do with the victims. I said nothing about them. Why bring them up?
bobbiemcgee
08-28-2020, 12:29 AM
So I'll ask again, when did you finally realize that the Russian collusion story was a complete hoax?
The Republican Senate said otherwise.
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 12:31 AM
The Republican Senate said otherwise.
Now who's lying?
GoMuskies
08-28-2020, 12:35 AM
What does what I said have anything to do with the victims. I said nothing about them. Why bring them up?
Why not? You were talking about bad parenting. If Rittenhouse had bad parents, I suspect the “victims” did as well. These are some seriously dumb folks.
bobbiemcgee
08-28-2020, 12:45 AM
OK. Didn't get the logic. A wasn't B. I didn't say or know anything about the victims or their parents.
bobbiemcgee
08-28-2020, 01:02 AM
Now who's lying?
Read it for yourself - 1000 pages
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/513499-republicans-incriminate-trump-decimate-his-russia-hoax-narrative?ocid=uxbndlbing
Juice
08-28-2020, 02:33 AM
You really think it's good news for the White House to tell a newspaper to stop reporting and compile dossiers on reporters?
I don't believe you really think that Dash. That's what dictatorial totalitarian states do. Or have them killed like Saudi Arabia did to the Post reporter.
I can understand them being mad...after all this guy won a Pulitzer Prize for exposing the sham charity Trump was running.
But dossiers on reporters?
The Obama - Biden admin was using the intelligence community to literally spy on journalists they didn't like.
Xville
08-28-2020, 05:25 AM
OK. Didn't get the logic. A wasn't B. I didn't say or know anything about the victims or their parents.
So, just about rittenhouse, not your antifa buddies. Lol keep dying on that sword. Typical lib just deflect deflect deflect so you dont have to admit anything that goes against your narrative.
Xville
08-28-2020, 05:31 AM
Read it for yourself - 1000 pages
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/513499-republicans-incriminate-trump-decimate-his-russia-hoax-narrative?ocid=uxbndlbing
Lol with a link to an opinion piece by a obama cronie. Yeah. You're an independent.
Muskie in dayton
08-28-2020, 08:22 AM
Try to stay on topic. Independent 52 yrs. No idea about the 91 days - national burger day?
You’re an independent? Who is the last Republican you voted for?
I’m an independent and watched both Biden and Trump speak. It looks like you were spending a lot of time posting here last night whole Trump spoke.
Xville
08-28-2020, 09:14 AM
You’re an independent? Who is the last Republican you voted for?
I’m an independent and watched both Biden and Trump speak. It looks like you were spending a lot of time posting here last night whole Trump spoke.
he may be a registered independent...but he is as much of an independent as i am santa claus
Masterofreality
08-28-2020, 11:00 AM
One has to ask "Where were the parents?"
Dad: "Where are you going with that AR-15 tonight son"
Kyle; Oh, I thought I'd pop in the violent protest over in Kenosha"
Mom: Don't forget to take your slicker son, it might rain"
Maybe they should do time.
He's from a Single Mom Household...that I get told by the likes of you is just fine. Can't have it both ways, Brother.
Masterofreality
08-28-2020, 11:15 AM
You, of course, are aware that forbes sez trump lies 23.5x a day. And who wants federal troops in our cities. Nobody. Releasing American military on our citizens? Stupid.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/#5e7457f41e17
"Nobody"....Except for all of the Small Businesses, owned by all Races under the rainbow, who has seen their life's work and investment destroyed by Leftist Antifa mobs who are anarchists and not "Peaceful Protestors". Hope you don't own a business in Denver Bobbi that gets torched. If so, you'd change your tune.
Masterofreality
08-28-2020, 11:22 AM
One resists arrest, fights with cops, disobeys police orders, then reaches inside his car for something. The other calls cops to turn himself in. Yet, this remains a question...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/trevor-noah-wants-to-know-why-cops-shot-jacob-blake-7-times-but-peacefully-arrested-kyle-rittenhouse-video/ar-BB18quAq?ocid=msedgntp
Is this for real? Is this guy really that stupid?
The First one mentioned above- As documented by the leftist New York Times, even..
A) Had entered a woman's house who had a restraining order files against him.
B) The woman CALLED 911 (it's documented) for police to get the First one out of her house.
C) The First one had a felony warrant outstanding against him for Sexual Assault against a 14 year old.
D) The First One resisted arrest, ran away from the cops and had a weapon (a knife) on the floorboard of his car.
Nice hill for the NBA jerks to die on. End that league.
Masterofreality
08-28-2020, 11:34 AM
For all of you out there that want a really good commentary on how the News Media is screwed up right now, and also when any media of any color does real journalism, I would direct you to a superb Podcast on the Patreon app from Stephen L Miller- the VersUs Media Podcast.
Miller is a Libertarian- and no big fan of Trump-he didn't vote for either Trump or Billary- but this guy nails it every day. He's offering a free Friday podcast from now until the election. If you want a subscription it is only $3 a month for all of the podcasts, and for only $1 a month he'll give you an extra one per week.
He actually is an independent journalist also with lots of writing credits on various media and newspapers...and NO fan of CNN. He is also an outstanding follow on Twitter.
I'll highly recommend it- no matter what your leanings are...and this is not a paid announcement.
X Factor
08-28-2020, 12:55 PM
Guaranteed if some conservatives did this to a gay man, they would be nailed with federal hate crime charges. But when BLM folks do it, nothing...
Just another display of tolerance and peace from the Left.
Brandon Straka, a gay man who started the #walkaway movement, was harrassed, had stuff thrown at him, and him and his friend were called "f@ggots".
https://twitter.com/BrandonStraka/status/1299223473009631232
paulxu
08-28-2020, 01:08 PM
Jim Gaffigan has figured out the grift.
X Factor
08-28-2020, 01:14 PM
Jim Gaffigan has figured out the grift.
And we should care what a comedian thinks?
Xville
08-28-2020, 01:17 PM
Jim Gaffigan has figured out the grift.
whew i was waiting for his opinion....hopefully we hear from Amy Shumer and Whoopi Goldberg soon. I'm dying to know what they think.
xudash
08-28-2020, 01:52 PM
All of the American cities with the most violence and destruction of businesses and property are all run by Democrats.
Kamala Harris stated that Joe Biden was a racist and that she believed his sexual abuse accuser should be listened to while debating…. Now she laughs it off as just debate talk.
If Joe Biden knows how to fix the problems in America, how to solve the racial divide and how to improve the economic well being of Americans, why the hell didn’t he tell Obama when he was Vice President? He had eight years to do it. Isn’t it curious that having spent almost fifty years in government, he suddenly has all the answers? Oh, and by the way, if we have “systemic racism” in America, why didn’t Joe Biden tell Barack Hussein Obama, a black man, to address it and fix it?
When I think of Martin Luther King I try to reflect on the times he led riots in our city streets; burned down businesses; looted stores and tore down statues. Then it dawned on me…MLK never did any of those things. Yet, he changed the world! There must be a lesson in this, don’t you agree?
If the U.S. Flag is racist, why did it drape the coffin of Congressman John Lewis? Equally, why did Nancy Pelosi deliver a folded flag to the widow of George Floyd, a convicted criminal?
Why did Nancy Pelosi say that it should not be a crime to come to the United States illegally?
Under Obama the H1N1 Virus resulted in 60.8 million infections; there was zero panic level and China was blamed. Fast forward to today, there are 4.6 million cases of coronavirus reported (now 5.9; 181k deaths); the panic level is one of mass hysteria covered 24/7 by the news cycle and Trump is blamed! Wonder why that is?
Many of our young men and women in college or just transitioning to the workplace are of the opinion that socialism is good and, in fact, a better economic system than capitalism. They have been taught this in our colleges and universities, but their professors must have been absent on the days they were asked to enumerate those nations where socialism has succeeded.
Can anyone tell me why the hell you receive a tax refund if you are on welfare? How does that happen?
xudash
08-28-2020, 01:57 PM
Joe Biden has no platform. The Democratic Party has nothing but what they've always had particularly since LBJ: empty platitudes.
Biden and the Democratic Party are empty suites. Fix the hair and the make-up, make sure the RayBans have no smudges on the lenses, and let's get out there and keep it to 7-word sound bites before forgetting what the hell he went out - sorry, he doesn't go anywhere - before he leans into his basement microphone and forgets what he was to say.
Who is this party pandering to? Mostly spineless people wanting a free ride. The difference between last night and last week should convince anyone who simply can't get past hating Trump to at least vote for forward AMERICAN progress.
I found the following to be an interesting statement. It sums up Biden and the Democratic Party very nicely:
Accepting socialism as an economic system is, in essence, admitting you cannot compete in the real world. You are essentially saying “I am willing to give up my liberty, my religion, my dreams and my property as long as the State (government) commits to taking care of me. Accepting socialism is tantamount to accepting failure even before the challenge is raised. It is the complete opposite of the principles upon which America came into being and which so many have sacrificed their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to create.
Smails
08-28-2020, 01:58 PM
Jim Gaffigan has figured out the grift.
Thank god! I was waiting with baited breath to hear his opinion on DJT. I mean who DOESN'T want the opinion of a 30m/year court jester?
Mrs. Garrett
08-28-2020, 02:04 PM
And we should care what a comedian thinks?
What do you do that's so important we should care what you think?
Xville
08-28-2020, 02:08 PM
What do you do that's so important we should care what you think?
I'm gonna assume he actually lives in the real world...something a 30/m dollar a year comedian does not. I dont give a crap what a "celebrity" thinks.
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 02:20 PM
Joe Biden has no platform. The Democratic Party has nothing but what they've always had particularly since LBJ: empty platitudes.
Biden and the Democratic Party are empty suites. Fix the hair and the make-up, make sure the RayBans have no smudges on the lenses, and let's get out there and keep it to 7-word sound bites before forgetting what the hell he went out - sorry, he doesn't go anywhere - before he leans into his basement microphone and forgets what he was to say.
Who is this party pandering to? Mostly spineless people wanting a free ride. The difference between last night and last week should convince anyone who simply can't get past hating Trump to at least vote for forward AMERICAN progress.
I found the following to be an interesting statement. It sums up Biden and the Democratic Party very nicely:
Accepting socialism as an economic system is, in essence, admitting you cannot compete in the real world. You are essentially saying “I am willing to give up my liberty, my religion, my dreams and my property as long as the State (government) commits to taking care of me. Accepting socialism is tantamount to accepting failure even before the challenge is raised. It is the complete opposite of the principles upon which America came into being and which so many have sacrificed their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to create.
In a word, accepting socialism is admitting your lazy. Plain and simple.
noteggs
08-28-2020, 02:32 PM
What happens when you introduce legislation (the Justice for Breonna Taylor Act) to ban no-knock warrants? You get attacked by protesters after leaving Trump’s convention speech like Rand Paul. Note to self, don’t be that Congressman who is actually trying to make constructive changes. Of course MSM is making the case he was only confronted and not attacked. Whatever.
https://twitter.com/bgonthescene/status/1299217655816216576?s=10
Juice
08-28-2020, 03:01 PM
whew i was waiting for his opinion....hopefully we hear from Amy Shumer and Whoopi Goldberg soon. I'm dying to know what they think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGl1CCprCeU
X Factor
08-28-2020, 03:08 PM
What do you do that's so important we should care what you think?
See, the Left cares more about what movie stars, musicians, professional athletes think than they do the average American who is out there busting his ass every day to earn a living and provide for their family.
Juice
08-28-2020, 03:17 PM
Jacob Blake's criminal complaint for his open warrants.
https://archive.is/YcYRU
xudash
08-28-2020, 03:22 PM
In a word, accepting socialism is admitting your lazy. Plain and simple.
And being a Democrat in 2020 means you have no AMERICAN-centric platform to support and defend. A Far Left Democrat and blind Democratic Party follower supports violence, looting, rioting, suppression of free speech, false narratives and the overthrow of government through coercion and illegal use of government resources, and destroying our history. The Democratic Party in general fully supports the murder of the unborn, high taxation and stifling regulation.
The Democratic Party has been coopted by the Far Left. Kamala Harris as the VP candidate? What happens when you do a Google search with the following in the search field: "crazy new york congresswoman"? Well, what a shock, guess who comes up - - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Then you have the fool Muslim tool from Minnesota - emphasis on "Muslim tool" so that snowflake central here understands that she does not have the best interests of the United States in mind.
By all means, let's keep citing examples of what comedians have to say as a basis for making a point.
I have no idea who will win this election. But it is clear that we will be dealing with tax increases, increased regulation, the destruction of our energy independence, open border policy and support for illegal immigrants, and a gutted manufacturing sector if Biden wins the election.
Xville
08-28-2020, 03:23 PM
Jacob Blake's criminal complaint for his open warrants.
https://archive.is/YcYRU
Such a good man just misunderstood...he was about to turn his life around and become a model citizen. Crazy world we love in when people are protesting for a sexual assault perp.
murray87
08-28-2020, 04:10 PM
Mr. Chris Rock has some thoughts to share since comedians were brought up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx12Rox91ww
paulxu
08-28-2020, 04:51 PM
Former White House ethics chief Walter Shaub, who served for six months under Trump and six under President Barack Obama, said the South Lawn speech by Trump:
This abomination may be the most visible misuse of official position for private gain in America’s history. It is an abuse of the power entrusted to this man, the breach of a sacred trust. It is the civic equivalent of a mortal sin—maybe a religious one too. And it is a harbinger
Bill Kristol:
It was an honor to work as a staffer in the White House. Turning it into a backdrop for a vulgar display of allegiance to a party leader, a kind of dime store American Nuremberg, is sickening.
Grifters gonna grift...because...well, you can fool some of the people all the time.
If MAGA is losing 175,000 lives, adding trillions to the debt, having 15 million people out of work....do we really want to MAGA Again?
Of course it's always some one else's fault because "No, I don't take responsibility at all."
Xville
08-28-2020, 05:06 PM
Former White House ethics chief Walter Shaub, who served for six months under Trump and six under President Barack Obama, said the South Lawn speech by Trump:
Bill Kristol:
Grifters gonna grift...because...well, you can fool some of the people all the time.
If MAGA is losing 175,000 lives, adding trillions to the debt, having 15 million people out of work....do we really want to MAGA Again?
Of course it's always some one else's fault because "No, I don't take responsibility at all."
The jobs are your lib governor buddies who just couldnt help themslvese to shut down most of the country so spare me that bs
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 05:12 PM
Former White House ethics chief Walter Shaub, who served for six months under Trump and six under President Barack Obama, said the South Lawn speech by Trump:
Bill Kristol:
Grifters gonna grift...because...well, you can fool some of the people all the time.
If MAGA is losing 175,000 lives, adding trillions to the debt, having 15 million people out of work....do we really want to MAGA Again?
Of course it's always some one else's fault because "No, I don't take responsibility at all."
About 7 or 8 years ago CNN held a "History Quiz" one weekend night. It was a contest between several of their guest hosts to see who knew the most about American history. Don Lemon was one of the contestants that night. He literally could not answer one question correctly - questions on basic history that any 8th grader from before the 1980s would know the answers to. He thoroughly embarrassed himself, and the network, quite frankly. Don Lemon is literally as dumb as a rock.
My question for you: is he your only news source?
You've been whining about nickels and dimes all week - are you even aware of the Great Grifter Crime family: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-bidens-controversies-explained
GoMuskies
08-28-2020, 05:20 PM
Mr. Chris Rock has some thoughts to share since comedians were brought up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx12Rox91ww
You just know Rock wishes he could unpublish that video now.
bobbiemcgee
08-28-2020, 05:34 PM
The jobs are your lib governor buddies who just couldnt help themslvese to shut down most of the country so spare me that bs
You mean like the guy in Maryland and others? Newsflash. Biden ain't the president. All this crap is happening under the alt right and trump. 317,000 dead Americans now predicted by 12/1.
DeSantis and Abbott did a wonderful job.
bobbiemcgee
08-28-2020, 05:41 PM
He's from a Single Mom Household...
Mother of the year. Now they are saying she may have drove him to Kenosha.
Masterofreality
08-28-2020, 05:47 PM
Mother of the year. Now they are saying she may have drove him to Kenosha.
If the Police were allowed to do their job, and not be held back by a Democrat governor. who also wouldn't accept National Guard help, he never would have even felt the need to help.
Masterofreality
08-28-2020, 05:50 PM
Such a good man just misunderstood...he was about to turn his life around and become a model citizen. Crazy world we love in when people are protesting for a sexual assault perp.
#METOO!!!!
Btw: I support the Me Too movement. But apparently Dems and BLM just ignore that in Blake's case. Ho Hum....
Xville
08-28-2020, 05:56 PM
You mean like the guy in Maryland and others? Newsflash. Biden ain't the president. All this crap is happening under the alt right and trump. 317,000 dead Americans now predicted by 12/1.
DeSantis and Abbott did a wonderful job.
The alt right lol that's cute.
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 05:57 PM
You mean like the guy in Maryland and others? Newsflash. Biden ain't the president. All this crap is happening under the alt right and trump. 317,000 dead Americans now predicted by 12/1.
DeSantis and Abbott did a wonderful job.
Bobbie is an independent, don't ya know? He's a free thinker...
Xville
08-28-2020, 05:58 PM
Bobbie is an independent, don't ya know? He's a free thinker...
Independent all the way lol
paulxu
08-28-2020, 06:02 PM
My question for you: is he your only news source?
I quoted a former ethics chief and Bill Kristol. What does Don Lemon have to do with anything?
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 06:24 PM
I quoted a former ethics chief and Bill Kristol. What does Don Lemon have to do with anything?
Just pointing out that garbage in = garbage out - not too hard to understand, is it?
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 06:33 PM
This is your Democrat Party
This is a tweet from a Democrat Congressional candidate:
GOP: Yeah he’s dead. But it’s not a big deal because he was a “bad guy.”
Is that REALLY the new rule they want? Killing is OK if it’s a “bad guy?”
Is it now open season on:
Flynn
Manafort
Stone
Gates
Cohen
TRUMP
Barr
Kavanaugh
Lewandowski
Bolton
Pompeo
Papadopolous
Parscale
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/dccc-backed-congressional-candidate-asked-is-it-open-season-on-killing-trump-admin-officials/
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 06:40 PM
Vicious Democrat mob tried to kill a US Senator last night:
"they were shouting threats to us, to kill us, to hurt us"
https://saraacarter.com/rand-paul-says-mob-threatened-his-life-believes-they-were-paid-to-come-here/
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 06:44 PM
Psycho Democrat loser tries to block highway traffic - didn't quite work out for her:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/08/28/mooove-btch-commentary-makes-footage-of-antifa-rioter-getting-blasted-with-a-cone-the-funniest-damn-thing-youll-see-today-watch/
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 06:45 PM
More loser Democrats threatened to burn down the Whitehouse last night:
https://www.toddstarnes.com/crime/burn-it-down-protests-turn-violent-near-white-house/
Lloyd Braun
08-28-2020, 07:11 PM
If the Police were allowed to do their job, and not be held back by a Democrat governor. who also wouldn't accept National Guard help, he never would have even felt the need to help.
Wow, dude. Just wow.
This whole thread is a giant cluster fuck full of comedy (the contortion on both sides is off the charts)... but this might have made me laugh the most. Validating a minor with an AR15 to shoot people. I mean, I’m pretty sure you are a parent, right? Maybe grandparent/grand uncle with kids in this age group? Would you EVER think this is ok behavior to be militant at that age?
“Well, he felt the need to help because of the dumbass Democrats, so I decided to drive him up to the protests and help the police in tanks.”
X Factor
08-28-2020, 07:24 PM
Vicious Democrat mob tried to kill a US Senator last night:
"they were shouting threats to us, to kill us, to hurt us"
https://saraacarter.com/rand-paul-says-mob-threatened-his-life-believes-they-were-paid-to-come-here/
The funny and sad thing is, the people were yelling at him, "SAY HER NAME!" (Breonna Taylor).
Rand Paul introduced the Justice for Breonna Taylor Act in June, that would ban "no-knock" warrants!!
These people are so uneducated about the issues they support and who is actually trying to help.
XU_Lou
08-28-2020, 07:40 PM
Wow, dude. Just wow.
This whole thread is a giant cluster fuck full of comedy (the contortion on both sides is off the charts)... but this might have made me laugh the most. Validating a minor with an AR15 to shoot people. I mean, I’m pretty sure you are a parent, right? Maybe grandparent/grand uncle with kids in this age group? Would you EVER think this is ok behavior to be militant at that age?
“Well, he felt the need to help because of the dumbass Democrats, so I decided to drive him up to the protests and help the police in tanks.”
So then your totally cool with all the Democrat rioters burning down cities across the US for the last 3+ months? Thugs trying to burn down buildings with cops and others inside them - while at the same time blocking doors to trap them inside? All the numerous violent acts conducted towards cops? All the people who have died at the hands of Democrat rioters in the last 3 months? Or threatening and intimidating people in restaurants, in the streets, and in their f*cking homes?
Your cool with all that, right? Because you got your little pannies rolled-up in a bunch after one person decides to fight back - and now you finally think that someone has crossed the line!!
MOR is 100% correct. I know CNN doesn't report that, so in your little world it's not the truth.... Do you think we're supposed to just f*cking take this for months on end, watch our cities die, watch are businesses burn? What the fuck are Americans to do when Democrat mayors and governors won't do their job? Use your f*cking head!!!
Lloyd Braun
08-28-2020, 07:52 PM
So then your totally cool with all the Democrat rioters burning down cities across the US for the last 3+ months? Thugs trying to burn down buildings with cops and others inside them - while at the same time blocking doors to trap them inside? All the numerous violent acts conducted towards cops? All the people who have died at the hands of Democrat rioters in the last 3 months? Or threatening and intimidating people in restaurants, in the streets, and in their f*cking homes?
Your cool with all that, right? Because you got your little pannies rolled-up in a bunch after one person decides to fight back - and now you finally think that someone has crossed the line!!
MOR is 100% correct. I know CNN doesn't report that, so in your little world it's not the truth.... Do you think we're supposed to just f*cking take this for months on end, watch our cities die, watch are businesses burn? What the fuck are Americans to do when Democrat mayors and governors won't do their job? Use your f*cking head!!!
Seriously dude chill the fuck out... I am not ok with minors having guns in the streets regardless of side. If there are leftists doing the same thing I certainly wouldn’t be defending them, I would be saying the same thing. I haven’t seen anyone here defending leftist minors in the streets with assault rifles. If that post is somewhere in this thread please point it out.
bobbiemcgee
08-28-2020, 08:20 PM
[QUOTE=Xville;680335]Independent all the way [/QUOTE
Why do you find this unusual. Half the Independents like trump. Half don't.
https://www.keepamericagreat.com/
xudash
08-28-2020, 08:31 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8673417/amp/RNC-attendees-attacked-BLM-mob-left-NO-police-protection.html
Xville
08-28-2020, 10:39 PM
[QUOTE=Xville;680335]Independent all the way [/QUOTE
Why do you find this unusual. Half the Independents like trump. Half don't.
https://www.keepamericagreat.com/
Has little to do with trump...I know you lefties are obsessed, but it's not about him.
bobbiemcgee
08-28-2020, 11:00 PM
haha
GoMuskies
08-29-2020, 11:04 AM
Trump is favored to win the election according to my online sportsbook as of this morning. He was +145 2 months ago and +100 earlier this week. He's moved to -120, while Biden (actually "Any other candidate") is now +100. Not a development I expected.
paulxu
08-29-2020, 11:42 AM
I think you pointed out why this might happen earlier in this thread.
noteggs
08-29-2020, 12:42 PM
[QUOTE=bobbiemcgee;680349]
Has little to do with trump...I know you lefties are obsessed, but it's not about him.
Correct. Biden’s campaign bought the domain to use it against Trump.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-keep-america-great-website-trump-broken-promises/
GoMuskies
08-29-2020, 01:44 PM
I think you pointed out why this might happen earlier in this thread.
Maybe, but who would expect me to be right about something?!? Certainly not me!
Maybe, but who would expect me to be right about something?!? Certainly not me!
Would it be rude of me to second that? :-)
xudash
08-29-2020, 06:44 PM
https://video.parler.com/I6/Gp/I6GpphE6K4ZR.mp4
Muskie in dayton
08-29-2020, 07:29 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-working-lifeguard-kenosha-day-shooting-went-clean-vandalism-school-work/ (http://https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-working-lifeguard-kenosha-day-shooting-went-clean-vandalism-school-work/)
X Factor
08-29-2020, 09:01 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-working-lifeguard-kenosha-day-shooting-went-clean-vandalism-school-work/ (http://https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-working-lifeguard-kenosha-day-shooting-went-clean-vandalism-school-work/)
Link didn't work, but went and read the article. This is a textbook case of self-defense.
As the article points out, he DIDN'T cross state lines with the rifle. He was working as a lifeguard that same day in Kenosha. After work, he went to help clean up graffiti at a local high school. He did not antagonize anyone. He only fired his weapon after being chased, and after feeling threatened with his life. After shooting the first guy (convicted sex offender), he called 911. He started running again after another group began chasing him. He only fired his weapon again after being knocked to the ground by a guy with a skateboard, as well as another guy pursuing him with a hand gun, who he shot also.
The media's narrative is complete crap, and they are deceitful liars.
This clip clearly shows the guy with a hand gun approaching Kyle as he's on the ground. Kyle was a second away from taking a bullet to the head, but he was able to get off a shot that almost blew the guys arm off.
https://twitter.com/firstcitizensam/status/1299087825854316549
Here's a quote from Gaige Grosskreutz's (hang gun guy) friend that will help Rittenhouse's defense:
“So the kid shot gaige as he drew his weapon and gaige retreated with his gun in hand. I just talked to Gaige Grosskreutz too his only regret was not killing the kid and hesitating to pull the gun before emptying the entire mag into him. Coward,” a friend of Grosskreutz wrote in a chat.
paulxu
08-30-2020, 08:22 AM
I would encourage everyone to read this short article. It provides a good overview of what is happening with our reporting
Hopefully we can all continue to enjoy our Thanksgiving dinner, here on XUHoops.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/fact-checking-trumps-lies-is-essential-its-also-increasingly-pointless/2020/08/28/35fb41de-e947-11ea-bc79-834454439a44_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_sullivan-845am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans
bjf123
08-30-2020, 09:03 AM
Interesting article on voter fraud. Must be a lie because voter fraud doesn’t exist, right?
https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/
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ThrowDownDBrown
08-30-2020, 12:27 PM
Link didn't work, but went and read the article. This is a textbook case of self-defense.
As the article points out, he DIDN'T cross state lines with the rifle. He was working as a lifeguard that same day in Kenosha. After work, he went to help clean up graffiti at a local high school. He did not antagonize anyone. He only fired his weapon after being chased, and after feeling threatened with his life. After shooting the first guy (convicted sex offender), he called 911. He started running again after another group began chasing him. He only fired his weapon again after being knocked to the ground by a guy with a skateboard, as well as another guy pursuing him with a hand gun, who he shot also.
The media's narrative is complete crap, and they are deceitful liars.
This clip clearly shows the guy with a hand gun approaching Kyle as he's on the ground. Kyle was a second away from taking a bullet to the head, but he was able to get off a shot that almost blew the guys arm off.
https://twitter.com/firstcitizensam/status/1299087825854316549
Here's a quote from Gaige Grosskreutz's (hang gun guy) friend that will help Rittenhouse's defense:
I’m sure if a teenage black kid did this at a trumpster re-open the economy protest you’d think the same thing. :rolleyes:
Muskie in dayton
08-30-2020, 12:54 PM
I’m sure if a teenage black kid did this at a trumpster re-open the economy protest you’d think the same thing. :rolleyes:
So you’re asking if crazy Trump supporters tried to take a black guy’s gun, attacked him, beat him, pulled a gun on him, then the black guy shot the crazies. Yes absolutely the same thing. Self defense, and I’d be glad he defended himself. Do you think differently in the same situation because of race? Because that would make you a racist.
Xville
08-30-2020, 01:09 PM
Defending this 17 year old is about as dumb as defending jacob blake. They both made incredibly stupid choices..defending either of them is stupid. This idiot kid brought a gun to a effing protest..
bobbiemcgee
08-30-2020, 02:04 PM
"The greatest danger for Black men in America is not a police officer, not somebody in a blue uniform, by any stretch of the imagination -- it doesn't even compare. The greatest danger for a Black man in America today is another Black man," said E.W Bishop, an African American minister.
Don't hear the NBA talking about this much.
X Factor
08-30-2020, 03:28 PM
Some of the aftermath of the "peaceful" protestors' destruction of Kenosha, WI.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/kenosha-or-kosovo-shocking-photos-destruction-emerge-after-blm-riots-leave-buildings
MADXSTER
08-30-2020, 03:42 PM
Defending this 17 year old is about as dumb as defending jacob blake. They both made incredibly stupid choices..defending either of them is stupid. This idiot kid brought a gun to a effing protest..
This is almost like saying it's the girl's fault for wearing a skimpy outfit at the club. Is she really surprised at what happened. It must be her fault.
The kid didn't make a very good choice, but he still didn't do anything illegal by taking the gun to the protest.
paulxu
08-30-2020, 03:49 PM
I thought the kid was 17, and you can't legally own a long gun unless 18.
(May be wrong about this)
X Factor
08-30-2020, 04:44 PM
I thought the kid was 17, and you can't legally own a long gun unless 18.
(May be wrong about this)
There is purchasing and possession. To purchase, you must be at least 18 years old in most states. I think some states you have to be at least 21.
But possessing is another issue I believe. Kids are given shotguns and rifles as gifts all the time. I let my girls (10 and 13) shoot my rifles and shotguns whenever they want (I'm always with them, not by themselves). I used to go hunting (13-14 yrs old) for small game as a kid by myself.
I'm not sure about all the laws and regulations though as it would pertain to this case.
However, anyone who has watched all of the clips, knows the kid was defending his life. He was justified in shooting all of those guys, or else we would be talking about him being the victim.
xubrew
08-30-2020, 05:16 PM
I don't know all the specifics of the laws, but it seems to be that supplying a minor with an AR 15 that he isn't old enough to buy or own, and then driving him thirty miles across the state line to go to a protest with said weapon, and then just dropping him off, is so grossly negligent that it has to be in violation of multiple laws. Doesn't it?? Yet, no one is demanding that his parents be charged with anything?
Xville
08-30-2020, 05:28 PM
This is almost like saying it's the girl's fault for wearing a skimpy outfit at the club. Is she really surprised at what happened. It must be her fault.
The kid didn't make a very good choice, but he still didn't do anything illegal by taking the gun to the protest.
Wearing a skimpy outfit versus bringing something that kills someone to an already "heated" public place is not remotely close to the same thing but nice try.
X Factor
08-30-2020, 05:36 PM
I don't know all the specifics of the laws, but it seems to be that supplying a minor with an AR 15 that he isn't old enough to buy or own, and then driving him thirty miles across the state line to go to a protest with said weapon, and then just dropping him off, is so grossly negligent that it has to be in violation of multiple laws. Doesn't it?? Yet, no one is demanding that his parents be charged with anything?
There are a lot of "facts" in your post that are straight up wrong.
But, he was charged with a Class A misdemeanor for possessing a weapon under the age of 18.
Also, the guy that almost got his arm blown off was a convicted felon in possession of a hand gun, clearly a violation of the law.
X Factor
08-30-2020, 05:41 PM
Wearing a skimpy outfit versus bringing something that kills someone to an already "heated" public place is not remotely close to the same thing but nice try.
Yes it is. If I go to a protest open carrying a rifle, and that is within my rights, I have every right to defend myself with said rifle. Just because I'm carrying a weapon doesn't give anyone the right to attack me, just because a woman is wearing a skimpy outfit doesn't give anyone the right to rape her.
Rittenhouse did not provoke anyone. From all accounts, he wasn't shouting at anyone or threatening anyone. He became separated from his group and then chased by a group of Antifa guys. He ONLY fired his weapon after he was being chased and someone threw something at him. They caught up to him, he turned and fired his weapon.
He ONLY fired his weapon again after being knocked down to the ground and cracked over the head with a skateboard, and ONLY when another guy armed with a pistol ran up on him and was a second away from taking a bullet to the head.
Xville
08-30-2020, 06:37 PM
Yes it is. If I go to a protest open carrying a rifle, and that is within my rights, I have every right to defend myself with said rifle. Just because I'm carrying a weapon doesn't give anyone the right to attack me, just because a woman is wearing a skimpy outfit doesn't give anyone the right to rape her.
Rittenhouse did not provoke anyone. From all accounts, he wasn't shouting at anyone or threatening anyone. He became separated from his group and then chased by a group of Antifa guys. He ONLY fired his weapon after he was being chased and someone threw something at him. They caught up to him, he turned and fired his weapon.
He ONLY fired his weapon again after being knocked down to the ground and cracked over the head with a skateboard, and ONLY when another guy armed with a pistol ran up on him and was a second away from taking a bullet to the head.
Again, wearing an outfit versus bringing something that kills someone is not remotely the same thing. Just because he has rights to bring one, doesnt mean it's not effing stupid. Justifying him bringing a semi automatic gun to a protest is stupid and i hope the idiot goes to jail for awhile.
XU_Lou
08-30-2020, 06:42 PM
Here are the actual and undisputed facts (of the arrest of Jacob Blake in Kenosha):
• The officers were dispatched to the location due to a complaint that Mr. Blake was attempting to steal the caller’s keys/vehicle.
• Officers were aware of Mr. Blake’s open warrant for felony sexual assault (3rd degree) before they arrived on scene.
• Mr. Blake was not breaking up a fight between two females when officers arrived on scene.
• The officers initially tried to speak with Mr. Blake, but he was uncooperative.
• The officers then began issuing verbal commands to Mr. Blake, but he was non-complaint.
• The officers next went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake, so as to gain compliance and control.
• Mr. Blake actively resisted the officers’ attempt to gain compliance.
• The officers then disengaged and drew their tasers, issuing commands to Mr. Blake that he would be tased if he did not comply.
• Based on his non-compliance, one officer tased Mr. Blake. The taser did not incapacitate Mr. Blake.
• The officers once more went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake; again, trying to gain control of the escalating situation.
• Mr. Blake forcefully fought with the officers, including putting one of the officers in a headlock.
• A second taser (from a different officer than had deployed the initial taser) was then deployed on Mr. Blake. It did not appear to have any impact on him.
• Based on the inability to gain compliance and control after using verbal, physical and less- lethal means, the officers drew their firearms.
• Mr. Blake continued to ignore the officers’ commands, even with the threat of lethal force now present.
https://rfangle.com/crime/official-police-statement-from-kenosha-police-the-public-deserves-to-know-the-truth/
Xville
08-30-2020, 06:46 PM
Here are the actual and undisputed facts (of the arrest of Jacob Blake in Kenosha):
• The officers were dispatched to the location due to a complaint that Mr. Blake was attempting to steal the caller’s keys/vehicle.
• Officers were aware of Mr. Blake’s open warrant for felony sexual assault (3rd degree) before they arrived on scene.
• Mr. Blake was not breaking up a fight between two females when officers arrived on scene.
• The officers initially tried to speak with Mr. Blake, but he was uncooperative.
• The officers then began issuing verbal commands to Mr. Blake, but he was non-complaint.
• The officers next went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake, so as to gain compliance and control.
• Mr. Blake actively resisted the officers’ attempt to gain compliance.
• The officers then disengaged and drew their tasers, issuing commands to Mr. Blake that he would be tased if he did not comply.
• Based on his non-compliance, one officer tased Mr. Blake. The taser did not incapacitate Mr. Blake.
• The officers once more went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake; again, trying to gain control of the escalating situation.
• Mr. Blake forcefully fought with the officers, including putting one of the officers in a headlock.
• A second taser (from a different officer than had deployed the initial taser) was then deployed on Mr. Blake. It did not appear to have any impact on him.
• Based on the inability to gain compliance and control after using verbal, physical and less- lethal means, the officers drew their firearms.
• Mr. Blake continued to ignore the officers’ commands, even with the threat of lethal force now present.
https://rfangle.com/crime/official-police-statement-from-kenosha-police-the-public-deserves-to-know-the-truth/
Yep..just like rittenhouse, blake is an idiot who made bad decisions...and actions have consequences... dont feel sorry for him at all.
XU_Lou
08-30-2020, 06:47 PM
Again, wearing an outfit versus bringing something that kills someone is not remotely the same thing. Just because he has rights to bring one, doesnt mean it's not effing stupid. Justifying him bringing a semi automatic gun to a protest is stupid and i hope the idiot goes to jail for awhile.
I'm sorry X, but at some point we as Americans are going to have to defend ourselves against these Marxist thugs. Take a look at this report - this is unacceptable: https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/30/corporate-media-didnt-report-what-its-really-like-in-kenosha-wisconsin-so-i-will/
At some point deadly force must be used on these Marxist thugs - I think we're there....
XU_Lou
08-30-2020, 07:00 PM
“Death to America. Death to America”
ISIS? Nope. Iran? Nope. Democrats - bingo!! We have a winner:
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1300047176316329985
XU_Lou
08-30-2020, 07:11 PM
Peaceful Democrats explain their plan:
https://twitter.com/greggutfeld/status/1299903837969485824
Xville
08-30-2020, 07:23 PM
I'm sorry X, but at some point we as Americans are going to have to defend ourselves against these Marxist thugs. Take a look at this report - this is unacceptable: https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/30/corporate-media-didnt-report-what-its-really-like-in-kenosha-wisconsin-so-i-will/
At some point deadly force must be used on these Marxist thugs - I think we're there....
We need strong leadership at the local level, and the national guard if need be..not 17 year old holding semi automatic weapons
XU_Lou
08-30-2020, 07:31 PM
We need strong leadership at the local level, and the national guard if need be..not 17 year old holding semi automatic weapons
Well, as you know, with Greg and Andy, we basically don't have any leadership. Legally, the governor must call in the Nat Guard - I'm not so sure Andy will do that when the shit hits the fan in Louisville after the Breonna Taylor decision is announced. It's going to be up to the citizens - just like Kenosha.
STL_XUfan
08-30-2020, 07:45 PM
Well, as you know, with Greg and Andy, we basically don't have any leadership. Legally, the governor must call in the Nat Guard - I'm not so sure Andy will do that when the shit hits the fan in Louisville after the Breonna Taylor decision is announced. It's going to be up to the citizens - just like Kenosha.
Well that is some seriously dangerous and bat shit crazy talk. I hope you don’t personally have access to firearms, cause I don’t think you are right in the head.
I think you may need to step away from the internet for a bit and/or seek help.
paulxu
08-30-2020, 08:49 PM
According to this report, allegedly:
1 - the gun Rittenhouse had he picked up from a friend in Wisconsin
2 - video shows him in an altercation a few weeks ago where he was punching on a woman.
We live in strange times.
https://journaltimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/watch-now-videos-reportedly-show-kyle-rittenhouse-involved-in-fight-punching-female-last-month-in/article_983dab1f-c1de-5ac2-b125-fe732befc1ff.html
Juice
08-30-2020, 10:42 PM
In Ohio, illegally possessing a firearm does not preclude you using it in self defense. Now you may still face charges for having the firearm, but self defense is still self defense.
I don't know if Wisconsin's laws mirror that but I thought it was somewhat relevant to the discussion.
XU_Lou
08-30-2020, 10:55 PM
Well that is some seriously dangerous and bat shit crazy talk. I hope you don’t personally have access to firearms, cause I don’t think you are right in the head.
I think you may need to step away from the internet for a bit and/or seek help.
So, if threatened, you would just let the mob burn your house down? And really, to say its not a possibility, means that you're the one who is delusional.
X Factor
08-31-2020, 05:40 AM
Interview with one of Kyle Rittenhouse's lawyers, John Pierce.
Kyle Rittenhouse Lawyer: My Client Legally Possessed Rifle in Wisconsin
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/30/rittenhouse-lawyer-my-client-legally-possessed-a-rifle-in-wisconsin/
X-man
08-31-2020, 06:34 AM
So, if threatened, you would just let the mob burn your house down? And really, to say its not a possibility, means that you're the one who is delusional.
I had no idea that Rittenhouse lived in Kenosha.
Muskie in dayton
08-31-2020, 06:37 AM
Well that is some seriously dangerous and bat shit crazy talk. I hope you don’t personally have access to firearms, cause I don’t think you are right in the head.
I think you may need to step away from the internet for a bit and/or seek help.
How about now?
https://thepostmillennial.com/i-am-100-antifa-alleged-portland-shooter-was-previously-arrested-and-released-for-bringing-illegal-loaded-gun-to-a-riot
STL_XUfan
08-31-2020, 07:35 AM
How about now?
https://thepostmillennial.com/i-am-100-antifa-alleged-portland-shooter-was-previously-arrested-and-released-for-bringing-illegal-loaded-gun-to-a-riot
Anyone, on either side, showing up to a protest armed is an idiot, and likely is there to stir up shit rather than let their voice be heard. I hope they are all prosecuted.
What XU_lou is advocating isn't self defense. It is instead advocating for a mostly untrained group of armed vigilantes fueled by grievance politics on dark corners of the web to show up and increase tensions by introducing deadly weapons to the situation. This only makes the police and national guards' job more difficult and serves no real purpose other than letting these yahoos play army for the afternoon.
Anyone, on either side, showing up to a protest armed is an idiot, and likely is there to stir up shit rather than let their voice be heard. I hope they are all prosecuted.
What XU_lou is advocating isn't self defense. It is instead advocating for a mostly untrained group of armed vigilantes fueled by grievance politics on dark corners of the web to show up and increase tensions by introducing deadly weapons to the situation. This only makes the police and national guards' job more difficult and serves no real purpose other than letting these yahoos play army for the afternoon.
This !!! I am about 98% GOP, but where I part ways are their crazy stance on guns. The idea of going to a peaceful protest with a gun is nuts, and it's happened on both sides. As is the idea that everyone should go around 24/7, armed to the teeth. This is America in 2020, not Deadwood in the Wild West.
XU_Lou
08-31-2020, 09:34 AM
What XU_lou is advocating isn't self defense. It is instead advocating for a mostly untrained group of armed vigilantes fueled by grievance politics on dark corners of the web to show up and increase tensions by introducing deadly weapons to the situation.
Typical Democrat - just making shit up....
xubrew
08-31-2020, 09:50 AM
There are a lot of "facts" in your post that are straight up wrong.
But, he was charged with a Class A misdemeanor for possessing a weapon under the age of 18.
Also, the guy that almost got his arm blown off was a convicted felon in possession of a hand gun, clearly a violation of the law.
I could have sworn that I read somewhere that his mother drove him to the protest while knowing he had a gun, but now I cannot find that anywhere. I concede your point and admit that I was wrong. I still think the parenting could have been better, but it perhaps wasn't so bad that it's criminal.
X Factor
08-31-2020, 10:51 AM
I could have sworn that I read somewhere that his mother drove him to the protest while knowing he had a gun, but now I cannot find that anywhere. I concede your point and admit that I was wrong. I still think the parenting could have been better, but it perhaps wasn't so bad that it's criminal.
I agree, I would never allow my 17 year old son, if I had one, to take a rifle into the middle of a riot regardless of whatever his intentions are.
But, sadly, so many kids today don't have a strong family structure. They're allowed to do whatever they want, whenever they want, with whoever they want.
I will say I think he had every right to defend his own life in that situation, and I think his lawyers have a really strong case.
MADXSTER
08-31-2020, 11:24 AM
Wearing a skimpy outfit versus bringing something that kills someone to an already "heated" public place is not remotely close to the same thing but nice try.
Both are victim blaming.
GoMuskies
08-31-2020, 02:30 PM
Fuck, there's about a 100% chance I am going to hear about this fake video from my wife tonight after she sees it on Facebook.
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1300197309641355264?s=20
xubrew
08-31-2020, 03:19 PM
Trump's background checks could use a little work. If he really wanted to lock up Hillary Clinton, he should have just hired her...
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/514449-bannon-trial-date-set-in-alleged-border-wall-scam
X Factor
08-31-2020, 03:32 PM
Biden emerged from his basement today to offer America these words of wisdom...
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1300498228245299201
Why can't we embed tweets?
paulxu
08-31-2020, 03:53 PM
I am going to hear about this fake video from my wife tonight
Film at 11:00 ?
X-man
08-31-2020, 04:34 PM
Biden emerged from his basement today to offer America these words of wisdom...
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1300498228245299201
Why can't we embed tweets?
Listen, just because you live in the basement doesn't mean that Biden does.
Muskie in dayton
08-31-2020, 04:44 PM
Fuck, there's about a 100% chance I am going to hear about this fake video from my wife tonight after she sees it on Facebook.
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1300197309641355264?s=20
Well you can respond that it's 50% real:
https://twitter.com/damonimani/status/1299823533305081856
94GRAD
08-31-2020, 04:50 PM
Well you can respond that it's 50% real:
https://twitter.com/damonimani/status/1299823533305081856
Technically, each video is 100% real. Just not together.
X-band '01
08-31-2020, 05:06 PM
Pelosi encouraged Sleepy Joe to forgo the debates with Trump, citing the moral high ground.
Can’t make this stuff up. Trump will slaughter Biden if Biden and the Democrats have the courage and sense of duty (laugh emoji) to do the right thing and participate in the debates.
So naturally Michael Bloomberg was seen as unfit to debate Trump after his no-show with the Democrats earlier this year.
Juice
08-31-2020, 05:14 PM
Andy Ngô
@MrAndyNgo
Breaking: Antifa shooting suspect Michael Reinoehl was part of the antifa protest outside
@tedwheeler’s condo the night before he killed Aaron “Jay” Danielson. He brought his 11-year-old child, who was armed with a bat. He was close with antifa black bloc. https://oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/man-under-investigation-in-fatal-shooting-of-right-wing-demonstrator-in-portland-was-outside-mayors-condo-night-before-with-daughter.html
X Factor
08-31-2020, 06:03 PM
Listen, just because you live in the basement doesn't mean that Biden does.
Typical Lib response. Resort to ad hominen attacks.
But, I'd still welcome you over to watch an X game in my amazing basement.
XU_Lou
08-31-2020, 07:02 PM
Are Democrats terrorists? You be the judge:
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1300290897922453504
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