Politics Thread

[Caf]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/43013/washington-post-refused-run-sketchy-sex-assault-ashe-schow

Did the Post break the Ford story?

[Juice]

I feel that makes it more difficult. She admitted to a consensual act and accused him of crossing the line. That’s a far different picture than holding her down and smothering her. The double standard is on both sides.... are Republicans calling for her personal history to be investigated to verify her credibility? Are Democrats calling for him to resign? Neither are true atm which reinforces both sides are assholes.

“Mr. Fairfax put his hand behind my neck and forcefully pushed my head towards his crotch. Only then did I realize that he had unbuckled his belt, unzipped his pants, and taken out his penis.”

Yes, the allegations are of crossing the line .... or they're pretty similar to what Kavanaugh was accused of.

Mind you, I'm not saying Fairfax is guilty or that I believe his accuser. I'm only talking about how each of these stories were handled.

[Lloyd Braun]

“Mr. Fairfax put his hand behind my neck and forcefully pushed my head towards his crotch. Only then did I realize that he had unbuckled his belt, unzipped his pants, and taken out his penis.”

Yes, the allegations are of crossing the line .... or they're pretty similar to what Kavanaugh was accused of.

Mind you, I'm not saying Fairfax is guilty or that I believe his accuser. I'm only talking about how each of these stories were handled.

They are similar but not equal. Blasey Ford stated she did not consent to anything. Tyson stated there was mutual consent to kissing and he crossed the line. Agree that the allegations are similar but that makes corroborating the story much more difficult to find truth. And again.... Supreme Court justice story that is tied to a Trump is way more interesting than this story. Hence the media coverage.

[Caf]

Mind you, I'm not saying Fairfax is guilty or that I believe his accuser. I'm only talking about how each of these stories were handled.

From what I've been able to find the Post didn't break either story and more or less treated them exactly the same. Ford also went to them with her allegations and they weren't publicized there until the story blew up. The best I've been able to find is that the Intercept published it first. They definitely went all in on Ford-Kavanaugh after it was public.

If they received the yearbook first, similar to how it happened with Roy Moore. That would be a different story.

[Caf]

Another Virginia Official Has a Yearbook With Blackface Photos - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/another-virginia-lawmaker-has-a-yearbook-with-blackface-photos-11549576781?mod=hp_lead_pos4)

This guy just EDITED a yearbook with blackface in it. Burn your yearbooks people.

[GoMuskies]

Wearing blackface in any context is now the crime of the century. Jesus fucking Christ.

[paulxu]

Wait. A hit piece on a Republican in the WSJ? Can't be right. They're all suppose to come from the Post.

[GoMuskies]

NYC citizens have successfully fought off Amazon's HQ2.

Congrats Dallas!

[SemajParlor]

NYC citizens have successfully fought off Amazon's HQ2.

Congrats Dallas!

Not all citizens were in favor of this.

[SemajParlor]

"There were meetings at the Justice Department at which it was discussed whether the vice president and a majority of the cabinet could be brought together to remove the president of the United States under the 25th Amendment,” Pelley said on CBS This Morning Thursday, summarizing what McCabe had told him. “These were the eight days from Comey’s firing to the point that Robert Mueller was appointed special counsel. And the highest levels of American law enforcement were trying to figure out what do with the president.”

"Fake news" or biased source or err something

[GoMuskies]

I think McCabe is pretty much the ultimate biased source. Given the mass hysteria over Trump's election, I'm not sure what's shocking about people having considered extreme measures to get rid of him.

[SemajParlor]

I think McCabe is pretty much the ultimate biased source. Given the mass hysteria over Trump's election, I'm not sure what's shocking about people having considered extreme measures to get rid of him.

I'm also not sure what's so shocking about the FBI or anyone wanting to get rid of a treasonous psycho

[GoMuskies]

I'm also not sure what's so shocking about the FBI or anyone wanting to get rid of a treasonous psycho

Yes, that's the hysteria I was talking about.

[noteggs]

NYC citizens have successfully fought off Amazon's HQ2.

Congrats Dallas!

Quote from de Blazio

"Instead of working with the community Amazon threw away that opportunity. We have the best talent in the world, and every day we are growing a stronger and fairer economy for everyone," the mayor said. "If Amazon can't recognize what that's worth, its competitors will."

Hmmm competitors? Do they really have competitors in e-commerce? They have a 49% market share in the US vs 6.6% eBay, 3.9% Apple, and 3.7% WalMart.

NY City is not a big fan of WalMart (to put it lightly) so guess that’s a nonstarter to have a headquarters there.

[Caf]

Quote from de Blazio

"Instead of working with the community Amazon threw away that opportunity. We have the best talent in the world, and every day we are growing a stronger and fairer economy for everyone," the mayor said. "If Amazon can't recognize what that's worth, its competitors will."

Hmmm competitors? Do they really have competitors in e-commerce? They have a 49% market share in the US vs 6.6% eBay, 3.9% Apple, and 3.7% WalMart.

NY City is not a big fan of WalMart (to put it lightly) so guess that’s a nonstarter to have a headquarters there.

I think "competitors" in this case are those companies competing for similar types of talent, not e-commerce sales. In that sense someone like Google is a competitor.

EDIT: Also why do you say NYC is not a big fan of WalMart? Because there are none there? Just curious.

[noteggs]

I think "competitors" in this case are those companies competing for similar types of talent, not e-commerce sales. In that sense someone like Google is a competitor.

EDIT: Also why do you say NYC is not a big fan of WalMart? Because there are none there? Just curious.

I agree the word “competitors” could be broaden especially when comes to the view of government. Guess I’m looking at from the private sector.

As for Walmart

https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/09/16/business/walmart-jet-nyc.amp.html?amp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQECAEoAQ%3D%3D#origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww .google.com&prerenderSize=1&visibilityState=prerender&paddingTop=54&p2r=0&horizontalScrolling=0&csi=1&aoh=15501831301960&viewerUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2 Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F09%2F16%2Fbusiness%2Fwal mart-jet-nyc.amp.html&history=1&storage=1&cid=1&cap=swipe%2CnavigateTo%2Ccid%2Cfragment%2CreplaceU rl

[Caf]

I agree the word “competitors” could be broaden especially when comes to the view of government. Guess I’m looking at from the private sector.

As for Walmart

https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/09/16/business/walmart-jet-nyc.amp.html?amp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQECAEoAQ%3D%3D#origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww .google.com&prerenderSize=1&visibilityState=prerender&paddingTop=54&p2r=0&horizontalScrolling=0&csi=1&aoh=15501831301960&viewerUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2 Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F09%2F16%2Fbusiness%2Fwal mart-jet-nyc.amp.html&history=1&storage=1&cid=1&cap=swipe%2CnavigateTo%2Ccid%2Cfragment%2CreplaceU rl

Their lack of presence there is more a product of their business model. You can't have enormous stores in NYC without equally enormous amounts of underground parking due to ADA standards. That prevents them from offering their pricing.

[Juice]

I'm also not sure what's so shocking about the FBI or anyone wanting to get rid of a treasonous psycho

Yeah... the man who was the discussed target of a "light" coup is the treasonous psycho.

[Xville]

Quote from de Blazio

"Instead of working with the community Amazon threw away that opportunity. We have the best talent in the world, and every day we are growing a stronger and fairer economy for everyone," the mayor said. "If Amazon can't recognize what that's worth, its competitors will."

Hmmm competitors? Do they really have competitors in e-commerce? They have a 49% market share in the US vs 6.6% eBay, 3.9% Apple, and 3.7% WalMart.

NY City is not a big fan of WalMart (to put it lightly) so guess that’s a nonstarter to have a headquarters there.

Amazon has way too much power and Bezos is a complete douche. Anything preventing them from acquiring more power, I'm all for.

[noteggs]

Their lack of presence there is more a product of their business model. You can't have enormous stores in NYC without equally enormous amounts of underground parking due to ADA standards. That prevents them from offering their pricing.

Didn’t seem to hurt Target.

[noteggs]

Amazon has way too much power and Bezos is a complete douche. Anything preventing them from acquiring more power, I'm all for.

Yes I believe Bezos is a douche. However, he built a good company and don’t begrudge him for that.

As being too powerful, not so sure. This is not a business model that can’t be replicated, ie FedEx and UPS.

BTW, during my 1988 marketing class we were instructed to come up with an original marketing idea. I came with the idea of home delivery for videos. Still pissed at my X professor who said my home delivery concept wouldn’t work. Hello Netflix!

[Caf]

Didn’t seem to hurt Target.

I looked into it more. It’s specifically the supermarket union that throws the fit every time they tried which makes sense.

I don’t think it’s worth celebrating like AOC has but I do think this tax break sweepstake needed some push back. I hope it doesn’t become a trend.

[Xville]

Yes I believe Bezos is a douche. However, he built a good company and don’t begrudge him for that.

As being too powerful, not so sure. This is not a business model that can’t be replicated, ie FedEx and UPS.

BTW, during my 1988 marketing class we were instructed to come up with an original marketing idea. I came with the idea of home delivery for videos. Still pissed at my X professor who said my home delivery concept wouldn’t work. Hello Netflix!

I'd invite you to read the four if you haven't already. After reading that, I absolutely despise amazon and everything they stand for. They have gotten away with way too much in this country...in terms of replication, again read the four. Its frightening what that company is trying to accomplish...frankly, Bezos being a slimeball and cheating on his wife might be one of the best things for the us that has happened in a long time.

I'm all for capitalism and having success but amazon doesnt play by the same rules as everyone else and that's the problem I have with them.

[GoMuskies]

I looked into it more. It’s specifically the supermarket union that throws the fit every time they tried which makes sense.

I don’t think it’s worth celebrating like AOC has but I do think this tax break sweepstake needed some push back. I hope it doesn’t become a trend.

You hope it doesn't become a trend? Way too late for that.

[Caf]

You hope it doesn't become a trend? Way too late for that.

Sure - but not on this scale.

[GoMuskies]

It really is. Projects just usually aren’t this big.

[bobbiemcgee]

You hope it doesn't become a trend? Way too late for that.

Maybe not. The next President may declare it a National Emergency to change it.

[JTG]

I'd invite you to read the four if you haven't already. After reading that, I absolutely despise amazon and everything they stand for. They have gotten away with way too much in this country...in terms of replication, again read the four. Its frightening what that company is trying to accomplish...frankly, Bezos being a slimeball and cheating on his wife might be one of the best things for the us that has happened in a long time.

I'm all for capitalism and having success but amazon doesnt play by the same rules as everyone else and that's the problem I have with them.

Hmmmm, sounds like Walmart.

[GoMuskies]

Maybe not. The next President may declare it a National Emergency to change it.

Why not this President? He hates Bezos much more than the next President will.

[Xville]

Hmmmm, sounds like Walmart.

Amazon makes Walmart look saintly

[Snipe]

"There were meetings at the Justice Department at which it was discussed whether the vice president and a majority of the cabinet could be brought together to remove the president of the United States under the 25th Amendment,” Pelley said on CBS This Morning Thursday, summarizing what McCabe had told him. “These were the eight days from Comey’s firing to the point that Robert Mueller was appointed special counsel. And the highest levels of American law enforcement were trying to figure out what do with the president.”

"Fake news" or biased source or err something

And Roger Stone may spend the rest of his life in jail. But the guy who wanted the first American coup and got fired for lying isn't going to die in jail.

Roger Stone is a non player but an asshole. If he is on your side, he is a lovable asshole. If he isn't, he is just an asshole. But either way, he is just an egomaniacal asshole. If you have Netflix, watch WHO IS ROGER STONE? He really thinks the world revolves around him and he elected Trump. In truth, in the evidence available they had emails of Stone complaining that Trump won't listen to Stone. He was a non factor.

Think of Lawrence O'Donnell. He is an asshole just the same but in the opposite way. I guess if you like him he is your asshole. I like Stone, I don't like Lawrence. To me he is just an asshole. I think he can be a bit unhinged and dangerous. Think about if a special council investigating Obama went after Lawrence O'Donnell and caught him in a lie and was going to put him in jail for the rest of his life. Of course he is a liar, but who cares about that asshole. Why waste our money trying to document how an egomaniac lies? Same with Stone.

Now McCabe was a lead law enforcement officer and he lied to everyone and got fired from his job. Why doesn't he spend the rest of his life in jail?

They have at least successfully killed Trump's Presidency through the endless investigations. I wonder what the reaction would have been if they would have done the same thing to Obama. Spying on him when he was a political candidate? People would have crucified Bush. They went after Trump before he got elected, and after he got elected, and tried to engage in a coup d'état. One of the guys that did it is now on his book tour. You can't make this shit up.

You can blame Trump, or you can blame the reaction to Trump. We don't have an effective government and people don't trust what used to be credible institutions.

This was the first Presidency where you did not have a peaceful transition of power. People refused to accept Trump. They tried a coup, and they are still doing it.

Meanwhile around 30 million illegal immigrants live in our country according to the high end of the Yale Study. We have no plan, and if you come up with a plan you are a racist White Supremacist. 30 million people would be 100 Cincinnati's just filled with illegal aliens. Last census put us at 296,945.

100 Cincinnati

We don't have adults in charge, thinking about our best interest. This country is going to rip itself apart. Blame Trump all you want. I think the final autopsy will say different. By then it will be too late. This country is headed for civil war.

[Snipe]

Also

Seriously, think about if Trump actually colluded with the Russians to steal an American election. Think of how big that would be. It would be a huge news story. Well, it has been a huge news story and we are in the third year of the investigation....

Three years of Russia Russia Russia! Marcia Marcia Marcia!

You think if anyone had any credible evidence that our Trump loving media wouldn't have reported it by now? Seriously.

I have talked to my many liberal friends. They still say things like, well in that speech he asked for the Russians to release the emails. I remember that. He did do that. It was a joke. You might not think it was funny. Lets act like it wasn't a joke, that still isn't a crime. If the Russians do have Hilary's emails, more than 1000 news outlets would like to have the inside scoop and publish them now. I am not sure that anyone would ignore that trainwreck.

Hillary deleted the emails. Tens of thousands of them. Presumably because they would show her in a bad light. Everyone would like to see those emails. People would be mining for Gold. I have liberals and conservatives for friend, and a cousin that was a Bernie Bro protestor that thinks she killed the Democratic party. It is a bipartisan consensus that she is a lying piece of shit.

Over 50% of the people that she met with as Secretary of State (and more importantly, the presumptive next President of the United States) gave contributions to the Clinton Foundation. Russians gave her well over 100 million dollars. Read that again, and then realize that Donald Trump is in year 3 of an investigation of whether he sold out our country to the Russians. You really can't make this stuff up.

But Trump is Hitler, and he is a White Supremacist, and he is mean.

I predicted well before Trump that every election will be about race, and racist Republicans. Man does that prediction look good now.

[noteggs]

I'd invite you to read the four if you haven't already. After reading that, I absolutely despise amazon and everything they stand for. They have gotten away with way too much in this country...in terms of replication, again read the four. Its frightening what that company is trying to accomplish...frankly, Bezos being a slimeball and cheating on his wife might be one of the best things for the us that has happened in a long time.

I'm all for capitalism and having success but amazon doesnt play by the same rules as everyone else and that's the problem I have with them.

Just read except from book and looks damn interesting. I knew some of the shitty practices they have done (including the other three) in the past but looks like this book takes it to a whole different level. Thanks for the suggestion and will report back.

[Xville]

Just read except from book and looks damn interesting. I knew some of the shitty practices they have done (including the other three) in the past but looks like this book takes it to a whole different level. Thanks for the suggestion and will report back.

No problem. It is a fascinating read. All four have done some pretty heinous things but Facebook and amazon take it to a whole new level for me. I hope mark sucker berg tots in hell.

[Juice]

New York Post
‏@nypost

De Blasio rips into AOC's Amazon opposition: Working people 'want jobs' https://nyp.st/2Ebuk61

They're turning on each other.

[GoMuskies]

Is there anything more 2019 than this Jussie Smollett story?

[paulxu]

I've got an idea.

Let's all sign a letter (we'll get Snipe to draft it) asking the Prime Minister of Japan to nominate Muskie for a Nobel Peace Prize.
That seems to be a method that works.

Muskie certainly deserves it for keeping peace on this board.

[Snipe]

Is there anything more 2019 than this Jussie Smollett story?

I would say Covington takes the cake, but just a week later the MAGA racial outrage of Jussie Smollett does fit in nicely. That happened so close together, I think you can include them in the same story, i.e. the media jumping in on a social media firestorm before anyone knows the facts. I think Jussie Smollett needs to spend some time in jail, but I doubt the Chicago PD would ever have the balls to arrest him in this political climate.

[Juice]

I would say Covington takes the cake, but just a week later the MAGA racial outrage of Jussie Smollett does fit in nicely. That happened so close together, I think you can include them in the same story, i.e. the media jumping in on a social media firestorm before anyone knows the facts. I think Jussie Smollett needs to spend some time in jail, but I doubt the Chicago PD would ever have the balls to arrest him in this political climate.

They don't care. They want these stories to be true so they'll keep reporting them as fact and no one will issue a correction or be held accountable.

[Mrs. Garrett]

Is there anything more 2019 than this Jussie Smollett story?

The majority of people here in Chicago suspected a hoax from the get go. There is a popular crime blog that was sharing inside information early on stating so. Just a shame that the media hopped on right away because it fit their narrative. As soon as it didn't certain vocal media critics here went silent.

[Mrs. Garrett]

I would say Covington takes the cake, but just a week later the MAGA racial outrage of Jussie Smollett does fit in nicely. That happened so close together, I think you can include them in the same story, i.e. the media jumping in on a social media firestorm before anyone knows the facts. I think Jussie Smollett needs to spend some time in jail, but I doubt the Chicago PD would ever have the balls to arrest him in this political climate.

I think there is a good chance he gets arrested. Before the fake attack, "someone" sent him a letter with white powder in it. So there's more than just the attack. Also, there is a lot of outrage at the amount of police resources being used on the Smollett case while there are so many unsolved murders in the city. So he probably gets arrested to save face.

[GoMuskies]

Bernie is back for 2020. Plot thickens.

[boozehound]

The majority of people here in Chicago suspected a hoax from the get go. There is a popular crime blog that was sharing inside information early on stating so. Just a shame that the media hopped on right away because it fit their narrative. As soon as it didn't certain vocal media critics here went silent.

My initial reaction to the news story was one of suspicion. It seemed way too 'on the nose' to be real, like a central casting racially motivated attack.

[Caf]

Bernie is back for 2020. Plot thickens.

The race to go as far left as possible begins today. Hopefully Schultz drags them closer to center, but I'm not very confident in that.

[GoMuskies]

The race to go as far left as possible begins today. Hopefully Schultz drags them closer to center, but I'm not very confident in that.

You know, in 2016 I kept watching the Trump campaign thinking it was funny that he was doing so well but that he didn't have a chance to actually be President. Then he won the nomination, but it still seemed pretty much impossible that he would ever actually be President. Then election day happened.

And since he's been President I've figured that there's no way he can win a second term. Just not possible given the goofy things he's said and done. I think I'm going to stop doubting the possibility of Trump 2020, though.

[Caf]

And since he's been President I've figured that there's no way he can win a second term. Just not possible given the goofy things he's said and done. I think I'm going to stop doubting the possibility of Trump 2020, though.

Oh I'd go further than that. I'd put money on a second term over every other possibility combined. Do you know anyone who loved Trump in 2016 that doesn't love him today? I don't.

[GoMuskies]

Oh I'd go further than that. I'd put money on a second term over every other possibility combined. Do you know anyone who loved Trump in 2016 that doesn't love him today? I don't.

I didn't love Trump in 2016, and I don't love him today, but I doubt very seriously the Democrats are going to put a candidate on the ballot that I'd actually prefer be President.

[GoMuskies]

Worse: John Wayne or John Wayne Gacy?

[bobbiemcgee]

Bernie is back for 2020. Plot thickens.

I'm thinking Biden vs. Pence.

[GoMuskies]

I'm thinking Biden vs. Pence.

Two old white males?!?

I think Biden would be fine, but I don't think that's the direction the Democratic Party is headed for 2020.

[bjf123]

Two old white males?!?

I think Biden would be fine, but I don't think that's the direction the Democratic Party is headed for 2020.

I don’t think Biden, Sanders, or Sherrod Brown have a chance. Aren’t they rich, old, white guys, the very thing the Left seems to despise?


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[boozehound]

Two old white males?!?

I think Biden would be fine, but I don't think that's the direction the Democratic Party is headed for 2020.

Agree. I like Biden well enough, but don’t see him being able to get through the primaries, in which the lunatic fringe will have a disproportionate share of influence.

[GoMuskies]

So who's up for the Universal Basic Income? I have my doubts, but it's the most promising idea I've heard on the issue of alleviating poverty. I've got some philosophical hangups with just giving everyone money for no particular reason, it's probably better than giving certain people money (or things) for very specific reasons and having to have a very expensive and inefficient bureaucracy to administer said give aways. I'm sure Andrew Yang has less than zero chance of actually becoming president, but in my opinion he's run by far the most impressive campaign of any of the candidates to date.

https://quillette.com/2019/03/06/in-defense-of-andrew-yangs-freedom-dividend/

[Xville]

[QUOTE=GoMuskies;643719]So who's up for the Universal Basic Income? I have my doubts, but it's the most promising idea I've heard on the issue of alleviating poverty. I've got some philosophical hangups with just giving everyone money for no particular reason, it's probably better than giving certain people money (or things) for very specific reasons and having to have a very expensive and inefficient bureaucracy to administer said give aways. I'm sure Andrew Yang has less than zero chance of actually becoming president, but in my opinion he's run by far the most impressive campaign of any of the candidates to date.

Nm

[GoMuskies]

Your hangup before the edit is my biggest hangup as well. But I really like that it doesn't create perverse incentives to not work. A shitty low wage job at Wal-Mart or McDonalds is now a supplement for the UBI, and you don't have to worry about how that might affect food stamps or other welfare benefits.

[Caf]

Your hangup before the edit is my biggest hangup as well. But I really like that it doesn't create perverse incentives to not work. A shitty low wage job at Wal-Mart or McDonalds is now a supplement for the UBI, and you don't have to worry about how that might affect food stamps or other welfare benefits.

I certainly don't like the idea in today's economy. I think it will be easier to swallow if technology increases the natural unemployment rate.

[Lamont Sanford]

On a serious note...does anyone know what AOC is hiding underneath those blazers??? C's? D's? DD's???

Inquiring minds want to know.

[GoMuskies]

I'm sure she'll trot them out at some point. I'm looking forward to it.

[Xville]

Can you imagine the good time she would be? She effing nuts and stupid..those are usually the most fun.

[OH.X.MI]

While I like to ignore political stuff as much as possible this time of year, the circus that is Cincinnati City Counsel was in rare form today... will be a very interesting next couple of weeks.

[Juice]

While I like to ignore political stuff as much as possible this time of year, the circus that is Cincinnati City Counsel was in rare form today... will be a very interesting next couple of weeks.

The gang of five is a collective group of unaccomplished losers who just cost the city 6 figures worth of fines and legal fees.

[bjf123]

The gang of five is a collective group of unaccomplished losers who just cost the city 6 figures worth of fines and legal fees.

So glad I don’t live or work in the city and have to pay them any income taxes.


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[OH.X.MI]

My thoughts on it, for what it’s worth. I do not agree with any of the Five politically. But open meeting laws are a bit draconian—for Republicans and Democrats. Destroying (or attempting to) evidence is much worse. Still, I don’t really care...other than the waste of tax payer money. But all five seem to wiling to personally to pay their portion. That’s good.

The big take away for me is the media collision. The text show that clearly certain local reporters are nothing but shills for a specific political agenda—namely Wetterich at Biz Courier. That’s not journalism. And in an era where the masses decry the sceptisim of journalist.. I say this is case and point. If it happens in little old Cinci, I can’t imamgine what it’s like with “real politicians” and “real journalist” with skin in the game.

Don’t trust a thing you read. It’s all propaganda.

[GoMuskies]

Ha, I just read the Enquirer article as I had no idea what you guys were talking about. That's the most Cincinnati thing ever.

[Lamont Sanford]

Let's not let the tomfoolery of Cincinnati City Clowncil's gang of 5 get in the way of real political issues...what is AOC smuggling??? I'm going solid D's.

Serious replies only.

[GoMuskies]

Let's not let the tomfoolery of Cincinnati City Clowncil's gang of 5 get in the way of real political issues...what is AOC smuggling??? I'm going solid D's.

Serious replies only.

To correct for man law violation

https://www.chronicle.com//img/photos/biz/photo_90388_landscape_850x566.png

[muskienick]

To correct for man law violation

https://www.chronicle.com//img/photos/biz/photo_90388_landscape_850x566.png

Yowsa!!!

[Muskie in dayton]

To correct for man law violation

https://www.chronicle.com//img/photos/biz/photo_90388_landscape_850x566.png
Huh. Maybe Socialism isn’t that bad.

[Juice]

To correct for man law violation

https://www.chronicle.com//img/photos/biz/photo_90388_landscape_850x566.png

I think she was a tad "thiccer" then in college than she is now.

[slysyl]

The Cincinnati City Counsel has suck for so long it's unbelievable. Now the city counsel is graduating and taking over the County Commisoner office . Lord have mercy.

[Juice]

The Cincinnati City Counsel has suck for so long it's unbelievable. Now the city counsel is graduating and taking over the County Commisoner office . Lord have mercy.

Dumas winning over Monzel shows that this city/county is going to hell in hand basket.

Her "experience" in governing was as the administrator of Lincoln Heights, a community so poorly run and overrun by crime that their police force had to be disbanded.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2014/10/17/lincoln-heights-disbands-police-department/17450723/

[Caf]

Manufacturer of AR-15 Can Be Sued Over Sandy Hook Massacre, Court Rules - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/manufacturer-of-ar-15-can-be-sued-over-sandy-hook-massacre-court-rules-11552579520?mod=hp_lead_pos1)

The title is a bit misleading. They can be sued for the way they advertised the gun.

[GoMuskies]

Today the left and the right came together: they're all pissed about Donna Brazile being hired by/taking a job at Fox News.

[X-band '01]

I would like to thank CBS for not interrupting the Tennessee-Colgate game to let us know that the Mueller Report has been finalized.

Start stocking up on popcorn this week.

[bobbiemcgee]

Today the left and the right came together: they're all pissed about Donna Brazile being hired by/taking a job at Fox News.

Trump needed to buy some more debate questions.

[GoMuskies]

I feel like someone compared this whole Russia thing to Benghazi. That guy was smart.

[Caf]

I feel like someone compared this whole Russia thing to Benghazi. That guy was smart.

Most people should be happy with this result. I doubt a lot of people will though. I do look forward to Trump trying to build up Mueller's credibility after he crapped on it for the better part of 2 years.

[bjf123]

Here’s my take on what will happen when the report, in whatever level of detail, is released. Those on the Left will pick out things they like and say that more Congressional investigations are needed since Trump clearly colluded and obstructed. The Right will say that with no more subpoenas being issued, it shows the whole thing was a waste of time and money.

Meanwhile, most of the country is wondering when Congress will do something about our infrastructure and rising medical costs.


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[noteggs]

Most people should be happy with this result. I doubt a lot of people will though. I do look forward to Trump trying to build up Mueller's credibility after he crapped on it for the better part of 2 years.


I agree CAF on Trump. Hopefully this will also be a learning lesson for the media as well.

[bjf123]

I agree CAF on Trump. Hopefully this will also be a learning lesson for the media as well.

Don’t hold your breath!


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[noteggs]

Don’t hold your breath!


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Didn’t have to hold it long!

[Strange Brew]

Ruskies confirming they have been communicating with trump throughout campaign. They did a nice job.

Haha!

[Strange Brew]

No. Hillary still ahead by half a million

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/embed/public/2014/02/13/venezuela-riots-1.jpg

This aged predictably poorly....

[scoscox]

The corruption in this jussie smollett, chicago case is disgusting

[Juice]

The corruption in this jussie smollett, chicago case is disgusting

When Chicago PD and Rahm Emanuel are pissed, you know something stinks.

[JTG]

Jussie, the 2019 OJ Simpson.

[bobbiemcgee]

He lies more than Trump which is saying something.

[bobbiemcgee]

Yep, time to drastically cut spending. Trump was already warned House members he’ll veto the budget if it looks like the last one.

Haha

[GenerationX]

When Chicago PD and Rahm Emanuel are pissed, you know something stinks.

Hahahahaha probably one of the most corrupt pd and mayor right now, so yeah, they know all about stink lol.

[boozehound]

Here’s my take on what will happen when the report, in whatever level of detail, is released. Those on the Left will pick out things they like and say that more Congressional investigations are needed since Trump clearly colluded and obstructed. The Right will say that with no more subpoenas being issued, it shows the whole thing was a waste of time and money.

Meanwhile, most of the country is wondering when Congress will do something about our infrastructure and rising medical costs.


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So basically, Benghazi.

I think this is really where all significant political scandals / pseudo-scandals are headed. One party claiming full exoneration while the other endlessly investigates until one/both are out of power. I fully expect a Benghazi level shit show on the part of the Dems now that they control the house.

[Juice]

Hahahahaha probably one of the most corrupt pd and mayor right now, so yeah, they know all about stink lol.

Jussie did 16 hours of community service. You have to do around 50 in the diversion program in Hamilton County for a misdemeanor.

Jussie had what 14? 16 felonies?

[scoscox]

So basically, Benghazi.

I think this is really where all significant political scandals / pseudo-scandals are headed. One party claiming full exoneration while the other endlessly investigates until one/both are out of power. I fully expect a Benghazi level shit show on the part of the Dems now that they control the house.

both sides talk past each other in basically every political issue. neither side seems to discuss things in good faith on anything.

[scoscox]

Hahahahaha probably one of the most corrupt pd and mayor right now, so yeah, they know all about stink lol.

every aspect of chicago politics is corrupt and gross. it's embarrassing for one of our most prominent cities. and new york is a complete joke as well

[GenerationX]

every aspect of chicago politics is corrupt and gross. it's embarrassing for one of our most prominent cities. and new york is a complete joke as well

Exactly.

[Pete Delkus]

Mueller Report
Green New Deal Vote
Jussie Smollett

Very bad week for Dems..

MSNBC pivoted (like they were instructed to) quickly this week away from Russia, to Healthcare. Both R’s & D’s think they have a winner with their Healthcare argument. If Dems still can propetuate the myth that people who have private health insurance can lose coverage due to a “pre-existing condition” , then they can make up some ground. However, if they try to out-left each other by calling for the end of private insurance, they will continue to sink in quicksand.

[bobbiemcgee]

Funny, citing healthcare got the dems control of the house. 40 new. 133 million have preexisting conditions. People don't want to take the chance of having to re-qualify like the "old days" and have the insurance cos. deny them coverage. In the 9 years of Obamacare and 45 votes to overturn it, the Pubs have not come up with one suggestion for a replacement because they have no clue how to do so. None. Nada. Trump promised great, cheap insurance for all. What an asshole. Honestly, I think the best thing that could happen for Dems is to have the la. Court strike down Obamacare, because Trump and the Pubs would have absolutely no idea what to do and there's no way they can get a plan in by 2020, thus losing 20 million votes. New coal jobs in WVA = 0. People who will lose their insurance = 140k. Cutting Medicare and SS by a trillion to 55 million seniors is another stupid move. Another blatant lie by Trump."No cuts, no cuts"... What a friggin' liar this guy is.
Jussie Smollett? Is Jussie running for something? Nobody I know gives a shit. As noted above, these big cities are cesspools.

[scoscox]

Take a breath and remember how many people the republicans and the tea party got elected campaigning on repealing Obamacare. It’s hardly a slam dunk for either side. How much were the house seats dems picked up a result of trump backlash? I’d argue much more so than any perceived threats to health care

[Xville]

Take a breath and remember how many people the republicans and the tea party got elected campaigning on repealing Obamacare. It’s hardly a slam dunk for either side. How much were the house seats dems picked up a result of trump backlash? I’d argue much more so than any perceived threats to health care

Yeah....the house switched to democrats because that's what happens at midterms when the opposite party is the President. The President's party always loses seats.

Regardless, trump is going to win in 2020 in a landslide unless the Dems can actually come together under a suitable candidate. If the dems could come up with a suitable moderate candidate to go up against Trump, I'd vote for that person and I believe most moderate voters would. If the democrats nominate an extreme left candidate like a Bernie again, they are going to get absolutely crushed.

[fellahmuskie]

I'm curious - was Hillary considered far left or was it simply personal distaste that drove moderates away?

[Xville]

I'm curious - was Hillary considered far left or was it simply personal distaste that drove moderates away?

I think most moderate people just hate Hillary. I think someone that has been involved in government for that long, at those levels, has most likely been compromised beyond belief.

I think trump on a personal level is a disgusting human being, but policy wise hes done some good things in my opinion and quite frankly loved that he was outside of the washington corridor.

I hope that the Democrats can come up with someone moderate that seems to be a decent human being so I dont have to vote for trump again, but I dont see it happening. Instead they have looney tunes like Harris, Warren, bernie, orourke etc. For some reason they think going far left is the way to beat trump, and I think going more centered is the way to go.

Booker may be an intriguing candidate possibly..

[boozehound]

I'm curious - was Hillary considered far left or was it simply personal distaste that drove moderates away?

I think she was pretty moderate. Hillary's problem (I think) was that she was way too much of a "Washington Insider" in an election where people on both sides swung hard the other way. I also think they ran a poor campaign.

It will be interesting to see how that pendulum swings this election cycle after we elected an 'outsider' who turned out to be a complete moron. I'd love to get back to the days where people were expected to (ideally) have significant executive branch experience (ideally as a Governor) rather than just electing the person who told the most people what they wanted to hear.

[Xville]

I think she was pretty moderate. Hillary's problem (I think) was that she was way too much of a "Washington Insider" in an election where people on both sides swung hard the other way. I also think they ran a poor campaign.

It will be interesting to see how that pendulum swings this election cycle after we elected an 'outsider' who turned out to be a complete moron. I'd love to get back to the days where people were expected to (ideally) have significant executive branch experience (ideally as a Governor) rather than just electing the person who told the most people what they wanted to hear.

The problem with your second paragraph in electing someone like that is it is very possible they are far too gone at that point. Sigs and lobbyists have gotten to them and fund their campaigns; leaving little opening for centrist rational decision making.

[boozehound]

The problem with your second paragraph in electing someone like that is it is very possible they are far too gone at that point. Sigs and lobbyists have gotten to them and fund their campaigns; leaving little opening for centrist rational decision making.

Good point. Which I think was part of the appeal of Donald Trump as a candidate. It's just unfortunate for all of us that he also happened to be Donald Trump.

[fellahmuskie]

I think most moderate people just hate Hillary. I think someone that has been involved in government for that long, at those levels, has most likely been compromised beyond belief.

I think trump on a personal level is a disgusting human being, but policy wise hes done some good things in my opinion and quite frankly loved that he was outside of the washington corridor.

I hope that the Democrats can come up with someone moderate that seems to be a decent human being so I dont have to vote for trump again, but I dont see it happening. Instead they have looney tunes like Harris, Warren, bernie, orourke etc. For some reason they think going far left is the way to beat trump, and I think going more centered is the way to go.

Booker may be an intriguing candidate possibly..

I can appreciate where you're coming from, but I guess I personally see little difference between an Obama, Clinton or Biden. I saw Obama being as much a part of the machine as Clinton, even though he was younger and less experienced. Hell, he hired her.

Trump is a weird case all around, but definitely not an insider. My thought is that Democrats are better served going for someone unconventional or more extreme, as long as they have charisma. I wouldn't give Biden a chance in hell of beating Trump, but that's just me. My pick right now is Harris because I think she's 1) more moderate than people think, but will still energize the far left; 2) I think she's willing to win at any cost.

[bobbiemcgee]

Trump has appointed Rick Scott as his point man on healthcare;

Scott headed a company that the Justice Department prosecuted and obtained the “largest government fraud settlement in U.S. history.” Columbia/HCA and several subsidiaries ultimately pleaded guilty to 14 criminal counts. The company paid $840 million in fines and penalties. The government tacked on an additional $881 million in penalties in 2003, bringing the total to more than $1.7 billion, which the Justice Department said was “by far the largest recovery ever reached by the government in a health care fraud investigation.”
Instead of going to jail, Scott walked with a 300 million dollar severance and spent 70 million running for Gov.
Trump has promised a "terrific" healthcare plan for everybody. It will include coverage for "pre-existing conditions' (the most expensive part), ins. for kids on their parents policies until they are 26, coverage for everyone, preserving private ins. cos.. etc., in other words he wants Obamacare 2.0 which he will call "Make America Healthy Again". And let's face it, he has no chance of getting his "plan" thru Congress. None.


The Circus continues...

[paulxu]

Draining the Florida swamp...into Washington.

He'll fit right in.

[Masterofreality]

I can appreciate where you're coming from, but I guess I personally see little difference between an Obama, Clinton or Biden. I saw Obama being as much a part of the machine as Clinton, even though he was younger and less experienced. Hell, he hired her.

Trump is a weird case all around, but definitely not an insider. My thought is that Democrats are better served going for someone unconventional or more extreme, as long as they have charisma. I wouldn't give Biden a chance in hell of beating Trump, but that's just me. My pick right now is Harris because I think she's 1) more moderate than people think, but will still energize the far left; 2) I think she's willing to win at any cost.

Get ready for a Pete Buttigieg takeover of all MSM. Beto is past history and dumped by all just like yesterday's newspaper.
HA! When was the last time a Mayor of a small to mid-size American town jumped to Potus? Get yer popcorn ready.
The Dems are so desperate for another JFK it's hilarious.

[Caf]

Get ready for a Pete Buttigieg takeover of all MSM. Beto is past history and dumped by all just like yesterday's newspaper.
HA! When was the last time a Mayor of a small to mid-size American town jumped to Potus? Get yer popcorn ready.
The Dems are so desperate for another JFK it's hilarious.

When's the last time a reality TV star jumped to POTUS? The rules are gone.

[Masterofreality]

When's the last time a reality TV star jumped to POTUS? The rules are gone.

Buttigieg's father was a Professor at Notre Dame and an avowed Marxist. In fact he was a guy who lauded the Communist Manifesto, loved Lenin, and dedicated a large part of his academic career to teaching and researching Antonio Gramsci, a guy who founded the Italian Communist Party. That guy (Pete's Father) wasn't just a soft "Socialist" but a hardcore Marxist/Leninist Communist.

Welp, I guess if your entire party is going to veer Left, you may as go all the way. Buttigieg himself claims to be a Capitalist, but the system needs "changes"- like abolishing the Electoral College, which, of course, our Founding Fathers purposely invented to not make the US a straight "democracy" but a Representative Republic, just so too much "democratic power" would NOT flow to only a few areas. Since the FF's did this consciously and on purpose, that would change the entire US power structure to the coasts only and 95% of the country, like flyover country Ohio, and Arizona and Colorado too, get screwed. Ol' Pete also thinks that US Business has "too much power", errr, kinda like businesses in Venezuela had too much power"? Finally, he thinks that Climate Change (which the science is settled on that is false-MOR) is a "National Security Threat". Not really sure how that is since I don't see Caravans of Heat Waves blowing to our Borders, or Lake Erie about to attack my house, which is 1/2 mile from the water, in a Tsunami, but Petey can say whatever his Bolshevik little mind tells him. Glad that he can just ignore that the last two decades of Climate Models constructed by Grant dependent science researchers have been absolutely fake. I thought we were supposed to be fried to a cinder by now, or at least starving because all the vegetation would have been killed off by acid rain? Ahhhh, that only seems to be happening in China who gives no fu$ks over any adjustment to lifestyle.

Pete should just move to Asia and become Prime Minister in Beijing rather that POTUS in Washington. But, you know, he's a little known "Fresh Face", albeit a much younger and more attractive Bernie Sanders, so all the MSM will go all in for a guy against an administration that has the Country working pretty well right now because the prevailing thought is that, damn, "We Just Can't Have Nice Things. :rolleyes:

[Caf]

Buttigieg's father was a Professor at Notre Dame and an avowed Marxist. In fact he was a guy who lauded the Communist Manifesto, loved Lenin, and dedicated a large part of his academic career to teaching and researching Antonio Gramsci, a guy who founded the Italian Communist Party. That guy (Pete's Father) wasn't just a soft "Socialist" but a hardcore Marxist/Leninist Communist.

Welp, I guess if your entire party is going to veer Left, you may as go all the way. Buttigieg himself claims to be a Capitalist, but the system needs "changes"- like abolishing the Electoral College, which, of course, our Founding Fathers purposely invented to not make the US a straight "democracy" but a Representative Republic, just so too much "democratic power" would NOT flow to only a few areas. Since the FF's did this consciously and on purpose, that would change the entire US power structure to the coasts only and 95% of the country, like flyover country Ohio, and Arizona and Colorado too, get screwed. Ol' Pete also thinks that US Business has "too much power", errr, kinda like businesses in Venezuela had too much power"? Finally, he thinks that Climate Change (which the science is settled on that is false-MOR) is a "National Security Threat". Not really sure how that is since I don't see Caravans of Heat Waves blowing to our Borders, or Lake Erie about to attack my house, which is 1/2 mile from the water, in a Tsunami, but Petey can say whatever his Bolshevik little mind tells him. Glad that he can just ignore that the last two decades of Climate Models constructed by Grant dependent science researchers have been absolutely fake. I thought we were supposed to be fried to a cinder by now, or at least starving because all the vegetation would have been killed off by acid rain? Ahhhh, that only seems to be happening in China who gives no fu$ks over any adjustment to lifestyle.

Pete should just move to Asia and become Prime Minister in Beijing rather that POTUS in Washington. But, you know, he's a little known "Fresh Face", albeit a much younger and more attractive Bernie Sanders, so all the MSM will go all in for a guy against an administration that has the Country working pretty well right now because the prevailing thought is that, damn, "We Just Can't Have Nice Things. :rolleyes:

I'm happy I was able to provide the opportunity for you to get all of these emotions out.

[Masterofreality]

I'm happy I was able to provide the opportunity for you to get all of these emotions out.

I have no emotions. I'm a tough minded stone, unlike the constantly outraged snowflakes who deal in emotion.
As my Nom de Plume suggests, I only deal in factual information- all in the Public Good.

By the way, Notre Dame is a sham institution built upon a Knute Rockne myth from pre-historic times. Glad there are no tear down the walls Marxists that instruct at Xavier.

[paulxu]

I can skip Hannity tonight:biggrin:

[GoMuskies]

I can skip Hannity tonight:biggrin:

Agree. I skipped Maddow yesterday after bobbie's post. This board is a time saver!

[noteggs]

Can’t believe I’m actually going to agree with Nancy Pelosi. Biden’s past handsy, close talking, back of the head kissing moments should not disqualify him from running. This #metoo and “I believe her” movement has gotten way out of control.

Of course moving forward someone’s going to tell him “Joe don’t do it - don’t do it Joe, remember personal space.”

[GoMuskies]

Can’t believe I’m actually going to agree with Nancy Pelosi. Biden’s past handsy, close talking, back of the head kissing moments should not disqualify him from running. This #metoo and “I believe her” movement has gotten way out of control.


Yes, some of it is complete madness and harms actual victims of actual sexual violence.

[xudash]

Yes, some of it is complete madness and harms actual victims of actual sexual violence.

It's anecdotal, but my daughter had per picture taken with Uncle Joe. She said he was a very nice and considerate man at the time the pic was taken.

Perhaps he "goes for it" now and then, but I doubt he's consumed by being oversexed or whatever.

[Caf]

I have no emotions. I'm a tough minded stone, unlike the constantly outraged snowflakes who deal in emotion.
As my Nom de Plume suggests, I only deal in factual information- all in the Public Good.

By the way, Notre Dame is a sham institution built upon a Knute Rockne myth from pre-historic times. Glad there are no tear down the walls Marxists that instruct at Xavier.

I don't know anything about Mayor Pete's fiscal views. He does seem like he was concocted in a DNC lab though.

[Caf]

Can’t believe I’m actually going to agree with Nancy Pelosi. Biden’s past handsy, close talking, back of the head kissing moments should not disqualify him from running. This #metoo and “I believe her” movement has gotten way out of control.

Of course moving forward someone’s going to tell him “Joe don’t do it - don’t do it Joe, remember personal space.”

Word is the Biden camp thinks this was all a Bernie camp conspiracy.

[noteggs]

Yes, some of it is complete madness and harms actual victims of actual sexual violence.

Absolutely on the real victims

[scoscox]

Can’t believe I’m actually going to agree with Nancy Pelosi. Biden’s past handsy, close talking, back of the head kissing moments should not disqualify him from running. This #metoo and “I believe her” movement has gotten way out of control.

Of course moving forward someone’s going to tell him “Joe don’t do it - don’t do it Joe, remember personal space.”

The democrats set these rules for themselves. I have no sympathy for it eating one of their own. And a lot of the Biden exchanges are really creepy particularly the ones with little girls

[noteggs]

Word is the Biden camp thinks this was all a Bernie camp conspiracy.

I heard Ms Flores is a Bernie supporter so it wouldn’t surprise me. What shocked me in one of her interviews when asked if Biden got the nomination, would she vote for Trump? No, I’ll stick with the harasser. That tells all you need to know about her motives.

Good grief, it’s going to be a long 15 months.

[noteggs]

The democrats set these rules for themselves. I have no sympathy for it eating one of their own. And a lot of the Biden exchanges are really creepy particularly the ones with little girls

I agree that others have allowed the Democrats to be the behavioral police and it’s ironic many times they have to sleep in their own made beds. IMO, it’s not about lack of sympathy but more about appropriate behavior to become president. A little handsy/creepy for me? Sure. Disqualify? No.

As GO pointed out, all this Biden behavior really takes away from the real victims off sexual abuse which is the biggest injustice.

[scoscox]

I agree that others have allowed the Democrats to be the behavioral police and it’s ironic many times they have to sleep in their own made beds. IMO, it’s not about lack of sympathy but more about appropriate behavior to become president. A little handsy/creepy for me? Sure. Disqualify? No.

As GO pointed out, all this Biden behavior really takes away from the real victims off sexual abuse which is the biggest injustice.

tbh i would normally agree about some of the flirtatious behavior stuff that gets overblown, but the way he interacts with little girls is disturbing

[bobbiemcgee]

This board is a time saver!

NM....Trump flip-flopped on healthcare, the border and where his father was born in 24 hrs.

[GoMuskies]

I like the idea of a Libertarian leaning Republican governor of Massachusetts for President, but I suspect Bill Weld is going to get absolutely destroyed. Hope I'm wrong and/or that he's not the only Republican who decides to try to primary Trump.

[Juice]

I like the idea of a Libertarian leaning Republican governor of Massachusetts for President, but I suspect Bill Weld is going to get absolutely destroyed. Hope I'm wrong and/or that he's not the only Republican who decides to try to primary Trump.

I know some people argued that he should have been the top of the ticket instead of Gary Johnson last election.

[boozehound]

I like the idea of a Libertarian leaning Republican governor of Massachusetts for President, but I suspect Bill Weld is going to get absolutely destroyed. Hope I'm wrong and/or that he's not the only Republican who decides to try to primary Trump.

That will be interesting. It's tough to imagine anyone getting much traction against a sitting President, and merely running might make someone a 'traitor' to the GOP establishment. Although that sitting President is (an increasingly unhinged) Donald Trump, so I guess all bets are off.

[noteggs]

I was scanning trough emails and saw this

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45843/campus-police-chief-put-leave-after-student-kassy-dillon

Yes we all get stuff from like minded sources from whatever algorithm crap safari or social media uses...

At first was getting a chuckle at PC crap on campus with this new police chief until I read he was also head at X last year.

On some cases I try to figure out what’s completely partisan (which Dailywire can be) and what needs further clarification. The Xavier student newspaper said Hect was only at the helm for school police department for a few months in 2018 and mentioning they didn’t know him leaving was voluntary or not. Anybody have a clue why? Politics or undesirable behavior? There has to be a “rest of the story” somewhere.

https://www.exhibit.xavier.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4068&context=student_newspaper

[Mrs. Garrett]

That will be interesting. It's tough to imagine anyone getting much traction against a sitting President, and merely running might make someone a 'traitor' to the GOP establishment. Although that sitting President is (an increasingly unhinged) Donald Trump, so I guess all bets are off.

This is an interest artice. While no sitting president in recent history has lost the nomination while challenged by their own party, none have gone on to win the general election.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sitting-presidents-serious-primary-challenges-often-lose-reelection-2019-3

[boozehound]

I was scanning trough emails and saw this

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45843/campus-police-chief-put-leave-after-student-kassy-dillon

Yes we all get stuff from like minded sources from whatever algorithm crap safari or social media uses...

At first was getting a chuckle at PC crap on campus with this new police chief until I read he was also head at X last year.

On some cases I try to figure out what’s completely partisan (which Dailywire can be) and what needs further clarification. The Xavier student newspaper said Hect was only at the helm for school police department for a few months in 2018 and mentioning they didn’t know him leaving was voluntary or not. Anybody have a clue why? Politics or undesirable behavior? There has to be a “rest of the story” somewhere.

https://www.exhibit.xavier.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4068&context=student_newspaper

That's a pretty high standard to hold campus police to. Assuming the article is correct and liking the aforementioned tweets was the extent of it, that is a ridiculous action for the University to take.

This is also why I don't engage in any political discussions on social media.

[boozehound]

This is an interest artice. While no sitting president in recent history has lost the nomination while challenged by their own party, none have gone on to win the general election.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sitting-presidents-serious-primary-challenges-often-lose-reelection-2019-3

Interesting article. I didn't realize Buchanan ran against Bush in 1992. Seem like a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy - i.e. you probably have to be a flawed President to be vulnerable to a serious primary challenge, which would then lead to you losing the general election.

I kind of think the only realistic way Trump wins reelection is if the left ends up with some batshit crazy candidate that is anathema to moderates.

[GoMuskies]

.
I kind of think the only realistic way Trump wins reelection is if the left ends up with some batshit crazy candidate that is anathema to moderates.

Is there anyone who has declared on the Democrat side that does not fit this description? I don't think Biden is in yet. Maybe Beto. Boot Edge Edge is trying to develop a non-crazy public persona, but I'm not so sure.

[Xville]

Interesting article. I didn't realize Buchanan ran against Bush in 1992. Seem like a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy - i.e. you probably have to be a flawed President to be vulnerable to a serious primary challenge, which would then lead to you losing the general election.

I kind of think the only realistic way Trump wins reelection is if the left ends up with some batshit crazy candidate that is anathema to moderates.

I think trump wins reelection easily with what is on the democratic side...going far left is the dumbest thing that party can do to try to win the election. You have to get the moderate vote, the right and left are going to vote their side no matter what. If there was a moderate on the dem side, I'd vote for them...since there isnt, I'll regrettably vote for trump.

[boozehound]

Is there anyone who has declared on the Democrat side that does not fit this description? I don't think Biden is in yet. Maybe Beto. Boot Edge Edge is trying to develop a non-crazy public persona, but I'm not so sure.

Not really. At least not as of yet.

[bobbiemcgee]

Hickenlooper is a moderate. Not a "medicare for all" advocate and loves the frackers. Unfortunately he stumbled out of the gate by saying he took his mom to see "Deep Throat". LOL
Wish we could get a Kasich/Hick ticket but America ain't ready for that. Too much "common sense" there.

[Caf]

I kind of think the only realistic way Trump wins reelection is if the left ends up with some batshit crazy candidate that is anathema to moderates.

I don't think recent history supports this theory. A moderate candidate that can bring people across the aisle sounds nice, but someone that promises people health care, etc, etc, and etc is what drives people to polls.

[noteggs]

This is the main reason I hate politics. People voting for what government can give them (Trump and Democrats alike). What the heck happened to President Kennedy’s speech about government? Yes government has a critical purpose but...

Boy as a country we’ve drifted way too far.

[Masterofreality]

The Circus really is in town today with the Barr press conference and the release of the Mueller Report.
The Barr comments were pretty straightforward, he actually was not required to have a press conference, nor was even legally required to release the report, but did so in the interest of transparency. However, that still wasn't enough for the butthurt Dems and their media minions.
The oh, so left leaning media was on full display in the Presser. Barr owned them all, including that blonde bimbo from CBS News who tried to nail Barr, but he just wrecked her and shot her to the moon with her own "unprecedented" words. The Left and their supporting MSM that was so complicit in foisting this hoax upon America still just can't let it go and is absolutely intent on spinning Barr and his words back into this discredited hoax. They just can't admit they were wrong and just can't give it up.

Hey Dems. You had a 20 month investigation that covered everything and didn't find the answer you were shamelessly looking for---because it NEVER existed in the first place. You used a fake dossier to create this narrative and now you're looking so stupid, I guess you've just decided to burn any credibility you have left to the ground.

Shut the F up, stop with the Tomfoolery and get back to work passing laws.

[scoscox]

The Circus really is in town today with the Barr press conference and the release of the Mueller Report.
The Barr comments were pretty straightforward, he actually was not required to have a press conference, nor was even legally required to release the report, but did so in the interest of transparency. However, that still wasn't enough for the butthurt Dems and their media minions.


Not only was it not enough, he's actually being attacked for holding it.

[bobbiemcgee]

What we have here is a bunch of chronic and habitual liars running the country. Indeed, a circus.

[Masterofreality]

What we have here is a bunch of chronic and habitual liars running the country. Indeed, a circus.

Especially the Democrats.

Establish "Sanctuary Cities" and then get all pissed off when they are asked to provide "Sanctuary". Start a 20 month investigation based on a lie, perpetuate the hoax and then get caught when their little prevarications don't pan out. Try to trash a perfectly good Supreme Court candidate's life with an absolutely false story that has not ever been corroborated by anyone- including those that were allegedly "there" as stated by the accuser- and there has still been no evidence produced of its truth, but the accuser sure cleaned up with over $900,000 sent to her on Go Fund Me.
How many more lies can the Democrats put out there that are proven as being untrue? Their credibility is shot.

[xudash]

This is an interest artice. While no sitting president in recent history has lost the nomination while challenged by their own party, none have gone on to win the general election.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sitting-presidents-serious-primary-challenges-often-lose-reelection-2019-3

At least in the case of the '92 Election, H. Ross Perot was a factor in why #41 didn't get reelected. That and the "read my lips" gaff.

[paulxu]

I'm trying to imagine Chelsea meeting with Russians in a Hyatt to get dirt on the Donald, and the promised support of Russia...and then Hillary writing a false press release for Chelsea to lie about the reasons....and watching the Republicans get righteous.

It would make a great movie.

[xudash]

Especially the Democrats.

Establish "Sanctuary Cities" and then get all pissed off when they are asked to provide "Sanctuary". Start a 20 month investigation based on a lie, perpetuate the hoax and then get caught when their little prevarications don't pan out. Try to trash a perfectly good Supreme Court candidate's life with an absolutely false story that has not ever been corroborated by anyone- including those that were allegedly "there" as stated by the accuser- and there has still been no evidence produced of its truth, but the accuser sure cleaned up with over $900,000 sent to her on Go Fund Me.
How many more lies can the Democrats put out there that are proven as being untrue? Their credibility is shot.

Plenty more. Their end games always justify their means. They want to save us with socialism. EVERYONE knows that the U.S. version of it will work - with 340 million people - thought it's never worked anywhere else.

EDIT: In the spirit of finding common ground, I'll submit that I hope that some number of Democrats are moderate, just as some number of Republicans are moderate. In fact, I wonder what the "middle" truly looks like in this country, and I wonder how far off those in the middle are from one another in their political leanings.

A MAJOR PROBLEM, AND I BELIEVE THIS TO BE IRREFUTABLE, is that a liberal media pours flames on the noise and crap spun up by the Far Left and that large doses of that are what are viewed on television every night.

If you are a liberal reading this right now, do you truly agree with people pouring across our border without going through a disciplined immigration process? If you think that is right, do you base that on a human's right for political asylum? If you believe that, how do you believe that should be managed by the United States Government?

How about Medicaid for all? How do you propose to fund that?

Finally, and seriously, do you believe Nancy Pelosi to be an intelligent human being? That's a serious question.

[bobbiemcgee]

The man with "the world's greatest memory' suddenly was overtaken by amnesia and couldn't answer 30 of Mueller's questions. Haha.

[paulxu]

=Masterofreality;648830 Try to trash a perfectly good Supreme Court candidate's life with an absolutely false story that has not ever been corroborated by anyone-

Unlike "he said...she said" cases, there was a witness in this case. The Republicans who controlled the hearing refused to call that person to testify.

Wonder why?

[GoMuskies]

I don't think anyone has exactly covered themselves in glory in this whole mess.

[94GRAD]

I don't think anyone has exactly covered themselves in glory in this whole mess.

You said glory hole!

[xudash]

You said glory hole!

Public reps.

[scoscox]

I'm trying to imagine Chelsea meeting with Russians in a Hyatt to get dirt on the Donald, and the promised support of Russia...and then Hillary writing a false press release for Chelsea to lie about the reasons....and watching the Republicans get righteous.

It would make a great movie.

might not have to imagine. there are a few things pointing to hillary possibly coordinating with the russians and others. republicans will probably try to investigate the origin of the mueller investigation soon

[scoscox]

Unlike "he said...she said" cases, there was a witness in this case. The Republicans who controlled the hearing refused to call that person to testify.

Wonder why?

didn't all the witnesses deny that it ever happened? one of them even admitted to lying

[bobbiemcgee]

yep, and re-open Benghazi 9.0

[noteggs]

You said glory hole!

Think I’m having a groundhogs day moment.

[noteggs]

I'm trying to imagine Chelsea meeting with Russians in a Hyatt to get dirt on the Donald, and the promised support of Russia...and then Hillary writing a false press release for Chelsea to lie about the reasons....and watching the Republicans get righteous.

It would make a great movie.

Actually think Bill and Hillary would be extremely disappointed in Chelsea! They would explain to her they had much better Russian sources and connections than the ones she tried to meet with.

[GoMuskies]

might not have to imagine. there are a few things pointing to hillary possibly coordinating with the russians and others. republicans will probably try to investigate the origin of the mueller investigation soon

Looking forward to the Democrats eventually investigating the origin of the Republican investigation of the origin of the Mueller investigation.

[scoscox]

so, the guy who tried to light st patrick's cathedral on fire is a philosophy professor at seton hall. seems odd that a catholic school would employ a guy who wants to light catholic churches on fire, especially to teach philosophy

[bobbiemcgee]

so, the guy who tried to light st patrick's cathedral on fire is a philosophy professor at seton hall. seems odd that a catholic school would employ a guy who wants to light catholic churches on fire, especially to teach philosophy

he was a finalist for the coaching job @ SJU.

[scoscox]

he was a finalist for the coaching job @ SJU.

lol, but they're already lighting themselves on fire

[kmcrawfo]

On a serious note...does anyone know what AOC is hiding underneath those blazers??? C's? D's? DD's???

Inquiring minds want to know.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/netflix-ocasio-cortez-documentary

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/04/640/320/ocasio-cortez-getty-1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

[Lamont Sanford]

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/netflix-ocasio-cortez-documentary

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/04/640/320/ocasio-cortez-getty-1.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Those are totally D's!!! I knew it!!!

Thanks for sharing Kevin!

[paulxu]

This is serious now. Politics shouldn't be messing with bourbon. What the hell is wrong with these people.
Maybe Bourbonman can tell us what's going on.

https://thediplomat.com/2019/04/american-bourbon-isnt-safe-from-trumps-trade-war-with-china/

[GoMuskies]

This is serious now. Politics shouldn't be messing with bourbon. What the hell is wrong with these people.
Maybe Bourbonman can tell us what's going on.

https://thediplomat.com/2019/04/american-bourbon-isnt-safe-from-trumps-trade-war-with-china/

Uh, this simply cements Trump as BEST PRESIDENT EVAH! Less exported bourbon means MORE BOURBON FOR US!!!!!

[Xville]

Uh, this simply cements Trump as BEST PRESIDENT EVAH! Less exported bourbon means MORE BOURBON FOR US!!!!!

Exactly...now maybe i can find stuff here in Louisville again. It is getting more and more difficult to find certain brands here that even 2-3 years ago weren't an issue at all.

[paulxu]

Maybe they'll lower the price to get rid of the surplus. I can increase my inventory then.

[OH.X.MI]

This is serious now. Politics shouldn't be messing with bourbon. What the hell is wrong with these people.
Maybe Bourbonman can tell us what's going on.

https://thediplomat.com/2019/04/american-bourbon-isnt-safe-from-trumps-trade-war-with-china/

This is the most blasphemous statement ever written in the history of the English language:

"While bourbon has made a big impact on markets across the Pacific, it is a taste-and-style driven good that is relatively easy to replace. Canadian whiskies can fill bourbon’s niche in China’s expanding liquor palette, as can European scotches."

[X-man]

This is the most blasphemous statement ever written in the history of the English language:

"While bourbon has made a big impact on markets across the Pacific, it is a taste-and-style driven good that is relatively easy to replace. Canadian whiskies can fill bourbon’s niche in China’s expanding liquor palette, as can European scotches."
More than merely blasphemous, this is a statement that could only be made by an ignoramus....someone with neither taste nor a sophisticated palate. Scotch and bourbon are hardly substitutes. Well made varieties of each are sublime, but very different. I am a bourbon man myself, but also enjoy the occasional single malt scotch. As for Canadian whiskey, I must say I have never had one I liked very much. I am sure that there are good ones, but none has crossed my palate.

[GoMuskies]

Can't get your Angel's Envy, Woodford Reserve or Bulleit? No worries, just pick up some Canadian Mist.

[paulxu]

Did you notice how I changed the politics thread into a bourbon discussion?

[GoMuskies]

Well played. And in honor of your heroic feat, I'm getting bourbon drunk tonight!

[paulxu]

Well played. And in honor of your heroic feat, I'm getting bourbon drunk tonight!

Excellent! Enjoy :)

[GoMuskies]

Looks like shit is coming to a head in Venezuela. Hopefully it ends with Maduro's head on a spike (or at least in exile to some isolated island).

[Masterofreality]

We have some very good friends who live around the corner from us and were both born in Venezuela. They both came here to go to college, got degrees, met here, and got married and got fantastic jobs. One is an astrophysicist at NASA Glenn and Anna is a biologist. Their families are still trapped in Venezuela and they haven't been able to go back and visit them for over 10 years for fear of abduction. It is an absolute mess for a family that was prosperous and upper middle class hard working people. The stories that Ivan & Anna tell us are heartbreaking.

All you left wing leaners on this here site should really take a look at how this unchecked Socialism- even in a country that was supposedly bullet proof due to oil- ruins a society. Yeah, just go ahead on Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttwhatever, Kamala Harris, and Corey Booker. That ship doesn't sail.

[ChicagoX]

All you left wing leaners on this here site should really take a look at how this unchecked Socialism- even in a country that was supposedly bullet proof due to oil- ruins a society. Yeah, just go ahead on Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttwhatever, Kamala Harris, and Corey Booker. That ship doesn't sail.

You're an educated man. Learn the difference between state socialism and democratic socialism. This country has been a hybrid blend of capitalism and democratic socialism for a long time. Even things that the GOP support, such as the bank bailouts, police/fire services, and subsidies for farmers currently being screwed by Trump's trade war, are examples of democratic socialism. I don't see you calling out Scandinavian countries for their form of socialism, which has led to those countries being at the top of the happiness index rankings.

It's easy to pick out the people who rely on right-wing propaganda such as FOX News and Breitbart as their news sources. Maybe try something like The Hill or Reuters if you want an more informed breakdown of the news and not a cesspool of misinformation.

[XU 87]

You're an educated man. Learn the difference between state socialism and democratic socialism. This country has been a hybrid blend of capitalism and democratic socialism for a long time. Even things that the GOP support, such as the bank bailouts, police/fire services, and subsidies for farmers currently being screwed by Trump's trade war, are examples of democratic socialism. I don't see you calling out Scandinavian countries for their form of socialism, which has led to those countries being at the top of the happiness index rankings.

It's easy to pick out the people who rely on right-wing propaganda such as FOX News and Breitbart as their news sources. Maybe try something like The Hill or Reuters if you want an more informed breakdown of the news and not a cesspool of misinformation.

I was expecting this response: "Venezuela socialism didn't work because it wasn't done the correct way."

[Masterofreality]

I was expecting this response: "Venezuela socialism didn't work because it wasn't done the correct way."

Right. That's why Mao, Lennin, Stalin, and Maduro were all so successful. Those weren't done "right" either.
And oh, my!! All those beautiful new cars in Cuba!!!!!

[GoMuskies]

I don't disagree with ChicagoX generally here. However, the leading (or #2) Democratic candidate for President was praising Venezuela's government not too awfully long ago. So while "all left wing leaners" probably aren't looking for a Venezuela style "revolution", that model isn't exactly outside the realm of what some relatively "mainstream" Democrats find praiseworthy.

[Caf]

All you left wing leaners on this here site should really take a look at how this unchecked Socialism- even in a country that was supposedly bullet proof due to oil- ruins a society. Yeah, just go ahead on Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttwhatever, Kamala Harris, and Corey Booker. That ship doesn't sail.

Agreed! I think it's also a good example of why our Central Bank's independence and non-politicization is vital to our economy.

[XU 87]

I don't disagree with ChicagoX generally here. However, the leading (or #2) Democratic candidate for President was praising Venezuela's government not too awfully long ago. So while "all left wing leaners" probably aren't looking for a Venezuela style "revolution", that model isn't exactly outside the realm of what some relatively "mainstream" Democrats find praiseworthy.

The mainstream democrats battle cry- Free college! Free health care! Write off your student loans! 100% green energy in 10 years! People who can but refuse to work will still be paid! Free unicorns for all!

[boozehound]

I was expecting this response: "Venezuela socialism didn't work because it wasn't done the correct way."


Right. That's why Mao, Lennin, Stalin, and Maduro were all so successful. Those weren't done "right" either.
And oh, my!! All those beautiful new cars in Cuba!!!!!

Come on. You guys are (presumably) intelligent individuals. Those are all examples of dictatorships that happen to be 'socialist' but are, first and foremost, dictatorships. If you guys really don't see the difference between Maduro, Lenin, Mao, et al. and Canada (for example) I don't know how you get through your daily lives without sticking a fork in an electrical socket or eating a rock.

There are many examples in Western Europe, and elsewhere, of the type of Socialism that is generally being advocated for and it is far less stark of a picture than a socialist dictatorship.

And yes, I know that some of the jackoff candidates on the left are advocating for some pretty crazy shit, but they are probably just going to end up with Biden because Elizabeth Warren and Bernie are nutso and there aren't enough people that actualyl want a socialist government anyways.

People who are concerned about Venezuela should be more worried about Trump attempting to break down many of the checks and balances that have traditionally protected us from authoritarianism - that is the real threat. There are plenty of right wing dictatorships throughout history that generally don't look much different than the left wing ones.

[X-man]

Come on. You guys are (presumably) intelligent individuals. Those are all examples of dictatorships that happen to be 'socialist' but are, first and foremost, dictatorships. If you guys really don't see the difference between Maduro, Lenin, Mao, et al. and Canada (for example) I don't know how you get through your daily lives without sticking a fork in an electrical socket or eating a rock.

There are many examples in Western Europe, and elsewhere, of the type of Socialism that is generally being advocated for and it is far less stark of a picture than a socialist dictatorship.

And yes, I know that some of the jackoff candidates on the left are advocating for some pretty crazy shit, but they are probably just going to end up with Biden because Elizabeth Warren and Bernie are nutso and there aren't enough people that actualyl want a socialist government anyways.

People who are concerned about Venezuela should be more worried about Trump attempting to break down many of the checks and balances that have traditionally protected us from authoritarianism - that is the real threat. There are plenty of right wing dictatorships throughout history that generally don't look much different than the left wing ones.

Booze, there is no point in arguing with the Fox-based wingnuts who make their points by (deliberately) misrepresenting reality. I have stopped trying, and I suggest you do so as well. BTW, I tried to add to your rep, but was stopped by "the man". Do you suppose "the man" is a Fox aficionado?

[Juice]

Come on. You guys are (presumably) intelligent individuals. Those are all examples of dictatorships that happen to be 'socialist' but are, first and foremost, dictatorships. If you guys really don't see the difference between Maduro, Lenin, Mao, et al. and Canada (for example) I don't know how you get through your daily lives without sticking a fork in an electrical socket or eating a rock.

There are many examples in Western Europe, and elsewhere, of the type of Socialism that is generally being advocated for and it is far less stark of a picture than a socialist dictatorship.

And yes, I know that some of the jackoff candidates on the left are advocating for some pretty crazy shit, but they are probably just going to end up with Biden because Elizabeth Warren and Bernie are nutso and there aren't enough people that actualyl want a socialist government anyways.

People who are concerned about Venezuela should be more worried about Trump attempting to break down many of the checks and balances that have traditionally protected us from authoritarianism - that is the real threat. There are plenty of right wing dictatorships throughout history that generally don't look much different than the left wing ones.

Like a non-independent FBI investigating an elected president because they don't like his politics? Or presidential candidates who have brought up the idea of adding Supreme Court justices because they don't like the current makeup of the court?

[noteggs]

Interesting article about is Sweden a Socialist country. Good stats surprising on much personal income taxes vs corporate.

Disclaimer: article is from a right leaning group that also has libertarian beliefs on social issues.

https://fee.org/articles/is-sweden-socialist-no-but/

[bobbiemcgee]

Robert Mueller ( a Republican) said William Barr (a Republican) did not accurately describe the context, nature or substance of the Russian probe.
Looks like trump keeps hiring the liars like him.

[Juice]

Robert Mueller ( a Republican) said William Barr (a Republican) did not accurately describe the context, nature or substance of the Russian probe.
Looks like trump keeps hiring the liars like him.

Fake news.


Key sentence in the report: "When Barr pressed [Mueller] whether [Mueller] thought Barr’s letter was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not, but felt that the media coverage of the letter was misinterpreting the investigation, officials said."

Mueller had issues with the media coverage, not Barr.

[noteggs]

People who are concerned about Venezuela should be more worried about Trump attempting to break down many of the checks and balances that have traditionally protected us from authoritarianism - that is the real threat. There are plenty of right wing dictatorships throughout history that generally don't look much different than the left wing ones.

Where I agree Booze is the authoritarian behaviors from both presidential parties (past and current ) in the US and checks/balance stuff (not sure that was your point but that’s what I read into it). Think checks and balances was one of most important and genius part of our constitution.

Unfortunately, socialism programs have added a huge debt to all countries. What is the biggest part of the 22 million debt in the US? Well over half our spending is on socialist programs. IMO, the government doesn’t have wherewithal to handle more social programs let alone control the ones we have.

[paulxu]

"Socialism," this election cycle's "Muslims" or "Mexicans."

Need to keep stoking the fear of the other.

[Strange Brew]

"Socialism," this election cycle's "Muslims" or "Mexicans."

Need to keep stoking the fear of the other.

The Russians are coming!!!! Haha.

[bobbiemcgee]

Fake news.



Mueller had issues with the media coverage, not Barr.

Your quoting a phone call Barr says he had with Mueller. No transcript. Nobody knows what he said exactly, Fox Fake and Friends oddly said they exact same thing you did this morning.

[Juice]

Your quoting a phone call Barr says he had with Mueller. No transcript. Nobody knows what he said exactly, Fox Fake and Friends oddly said they exact same thing you did this morning.

Don't watch cable news so maybe they were reading similar shit. Well then Mueller can testify and explain what the hell he meant. This is all based on alleged conversations anyways so I don't know why that suddenly doesn't work for you.

[boozehound]

Where I agree Booze is the authoritarian behaviors from both presidential parties (past and current ) in the US and checks/balance stuff (not sure that was your point but that’s what I read into it). Think checks and balances was one of most important and genius part of our constitution.

Unfortunately, socialism programs have added a huge debt to all countries. What is the biggest part of the 22 million debt in the US? Well over half our spending is on socialist programs. IMO, the government doesn’t have wherewithal to handle more social programs let alone control the ones we have.

I think this is sort of true, but to fairly consider government spending against Medicare, SSI, and Medicaid (the programs you are referencing that account for just over 50% of the federal budget) I do think you need to consider the taxes the government collects that are directly related to those programs.

For example: Of the $3.8T that the federal government spends I believe a little over $1T comes from Social Security and Medicare taxes. We spend about $2.3T per year on the aforementioned programs, so the real 'unfunded' annual burden is $1.3T.

I'm personally against socialism as a governmental system and the 'free stuff' mentality, but I'm also against gross income inequality and I do believe that the purpose of the government is to provide a basic safety net in some instances, as well as to promote behavior that is good for the nation as a whole.

To the end, I'm in favor of steps to significantly reduce tuition costs, but I'm not for 'free college'. College need to be affordable so that we have an educated populous, but people should have 'skin in the game'. We should also offer significant incentives for people to be trained in fields that are likely to benefit the US economy over the long term. This would allow for wages for Americans.

I also think that the lottery we force many people to play with Healthcare costs is a problem that should be addressed. I'll give you an example: My son had a seizure a few months ago and went to the hospital in an ambulance (he has been fine since, but it was terrifying at the time). He was treated and released same day and received very little care outside of the ambulance ride, and I have good insurance. I had to pay $1500 out of pocket for the whole thing. Fortunately that amount of money is non consequential for me, but for the average American wage earner that would be a big deal.

[GoMuskies]

Quick white supremacy check of this website:

:okay:

Thank God, it's safe.

[xudash]

I think this is sort of true, but to fairly consider government spending against Medicare, SSI, and Medicaid (the programs you are referencing that account for just over 50% of the federal budget) I do think you need to consider the taxes the government collects that are directly related to those programs.

For example: Of the $3.8T that the federal government spends I believe a little over $1T comes from Social Security and Medicare taxes. We spend about $2.3T per year on the aforementioned programs, so the real 'unfunded' annual burden is $1.3T.

I'm personally against socialism as a governmental system and the 'free stuff' mentality, but I'm also against gross income inequality and I do believe that the purpose of the government is to provide a basic safety net in some instances, as well as to promote behavior that is good for the nation as a whole.

To the end, I'm in favor of steps to significantly reduce tuition costs, but I'm not for 'free college'. College need to be affordable so that we have an educated populous, but people should have 'skin in the game'. We should also offer significant incentives for people to be trained in fields that are likely to benefit the US economy over the long term. This would allow for wages for Americans.

I also think that the lottery we force many people to play with Healthcare costs is a problem that should be addressed. I'll give you an example: My son had a seizure a few months ago and went to the hospital in an ambulance (he has been fine since, but it was terrifying at the time). He was treated and released same day and received very little care outside of the ambulance ride, and I have good insurance. I had to pay $1500 out of pocket for the whole thing. Fortunately that amount of money is non consequential for me, but for the average American wage earner that would be a big deal.

Public reps. Excellent post.

[scoscox]

"Socialism," this election cycle's "Muslims" or "Mexicans."

Need to keep stoking the fear of the other.

lol as if people haven't been marching in the streets about trump being hitler since the day he got elected and presidents and presidential candidates have been describing half the country as virulent racists, nazis, and deplorables. spare me this fake bs.

[scoscox]

Come on. You guys are (presumably) intelligent individuals. Those are all examples of dictatorships that happen to be 'socialist' but are, first and foremost, dictatorships. If you guys really don't see the difference between Maduro, Lenin, Mao, et al. and Canada (for example) I don't know how you get through your daily lives without sticking a fork in an electrical socket or eating a rock.

There are many examples in Western Europe, and elsewhere, of the type of Socialism that is generally being advocated for and it is far less stark of a picture than a socialist dictatorship.

And yes, I know that some of the jackoff candidates on the left are advocating for some pretty crazy shit, but they are probably just going to end up with Biden because Elizabeth Warren and Bernie are nutso and there aren't enough people that actualyl want a socialist government anyways.

People who are concerned about Venezuela should be more worried about Trump attempting to break down many of the checks and balances that have traditionally protected us from authoritarianism - that is the real threat. There are plenty of right wing dictatorships throughout history that generally don't look much different than the left wing ones.

but why would we want to emulate those european countries or canada? they should emulate us.

it's very difficult to wave away the socialism in the democratic party. biden just said yesterday that he thinks we have an obligation to provide health care for illegal immigrants. there is no candidate in the entire party that hasn't advocated a borderline insane position at some point. they are all infected by the bat-shit crazy base to some extent. you have no reasonable candidates.

"it is far less stark of a picture than a socialist dictatorship." talk about your ringing endorsement

[Xville]

This presidential election is going to be an incredible landslide....I cant wait to see the extreme left get triggered.

[bjf123]

biden just said yesterday that he thinks we have an obligation to provide health care for illegal immigrants.

What he hasn’t made clear is if he means emergency care only, or total healthcare. Big difference between those two positions!


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[paulxu]

lol as if people haven't been marching in the streets about trump being hitler since the day he got elected and presidents and presidential candidates have been describing half the country as virulent racists, nazis, and deplorables. spare me this fake bs.

I'd like to spare you the flame throwing of Mexican rapists, and Muslim bans, and socialism scare mongering.
Unfortunately you'd have to talk to the people who do it. Call Alex Jones or Tucker and see if they'll listen.

[bobbiemcgee]

This presidential election is going to be an incredible landslide..


There's 12 million more Democrats than Republicans registered, so you may be right...

[scoscox]

I'd like to spare you the flame throwing of Mexican rapists, and Muslim bans, and socialism scare mongering.
Unfortunately you'd have to talk to the people who do it. Call Alex Jones or Tucker and see if they'll listen.

pretending to be concerned about scaremongering from any leftist is rich. leftists have told us 1. the economy would crash beyond salvaging if trump was elected 2. trump is hitler 3. ending net neutrality would lead to deaths 4. ending obamacare would lead to mass death 5. leaving the paris climate accords would lead to deaths 6. every conservative in this country is a white supremacist, nazi, deplorable 7. trump colluded with the russians 8. russian facebook memes stole the election 9. the world will end in 12 years due to global warming 10. police officers are indiscriminately gunning down unarmed black men all over the country

scaremongering is all the democrats know how to do.

let me know when you call rachel maddow, nancy pelosi, barack obama, hillary clinton, and chuck shumer and tell them to cut it out

[scoscox]

There's 12 million more Democrats than Republicans registered, so you may be right...

yes, trump may lose new york and california

[xudash]

yes, trump may lose new york and california

Ha! Exactly. How many COUNTIES did he win in NY in 2016? Something like all but five of them.

Just what we need: more stupid FLD's running around in the urban centers of those states. The real question is how much stupidity can they bring to Florida and Texas.

[scoscox]

What he hasn’t made clear is if he means emergency care only, or total healthcare. Big difference between those two positions!


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we already provide them with emergency care

[UCGRAD4X]

What he hasn’t made clear is if he means emergency care only, or total healthcare. Big difference between those two positions!


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Emergency care already takes place. If someone calls an ambulance for a true emergency, they aren't going to NOT treat them. If someone can come to the emergency room with a cold and not get turned away...

It seems obvious this is not what he is talking about, unless he is a complete idiot....

Never mind.

[bjf123]

we already provide them with emergency care

True, but Biden will never make it clear, because simply saying he wants to give them free, full healthcare, which US citizens don’t have, would not go over well outside the coasts.


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[xubrew]

pretending to be concerned about scaremongering from any leftist is rich. leftists have told us 1. the economy would crash beyond salvaging if trump was elected 2. trump is hitler 3. ending net neutrality would lead to deaths 4. ending obamacare would lead to mass death 5. leaving the paris climate accords would lead to deaths 6. every conservative in this country is a white supremacist, nazi, deplorable 7. trump colluded with the russians 8. russian facebook memes stole the election 9. the world will end in 12 years due to global warming 10. police officers are indiscriminately gunning down unarmed black men all over the country

scaremongering is all the democrats know how to do.

let me know when you call rachel maddow, nancy pelosi, barack obama, hillary clinton, and chuck shumer and tell them to cut it out

The two most effective ways to engage large groups of people are to 1) scare them, and 2) make them mad.

I for one am concerned about 'scaremongering.' Both sides do it. Both sides have scared people and made people mad. The more this goes on, the more people there will be who will want to hurt other people.

This isn't political differences so much as it is a political feud. People are now scared of the other side, and mad at the other side, and that's COMPLETELY crushing any likelihood of reason playing any sort of a role. I think it has been that way for a while, but it is worse now than it's been in my lifetime. Throw in the fact that politicians are more than willing to use fear and anger as tools for their own personal selfish gain, and that's making things even more of a mess.

[Caf]

I think DJT's informal unpredictable approach is a disaster in a lot of what he does especially domestically. However, it is perfect for the trade war. It may crater markets but it's a price worth paying IMO.

[OH.X.MI]

yes, trump may lose new york and california

The greatest threat we face is the the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. If you live in Ohio, you should be aware OH HB 70 is current in committee. I'd urge you to contact your representatives and preemptively voice opposition if you believe in Federalism. If NPVIC passes the threshold*, NY and CA will usurp the voice of the midwest and south. That's not hyperbole. We should all be very afraid of the democrats' scheme to destroy state rights and the equal representation of a diverse federal citizenry through the dictatorship of a popular vote. I for one am not from NY or CA, I don't live in NY or CA, and the people of NY and CA do not represent my values and beliefs. I have no desire to be beholden to them.

*In my view, NPVIC is almost certainly unconstitutional. But there will be a hell of a political and legal battle over that if it comes to it.

[STL_XUfan]

It may crater markets but it's a price worth paying IMO.

Why is it worth it? I am genuinely asking and interested in your reasoning?

[Lamont Sanford]

pretending to be concerned about scaremongering from any leftist is rich. leftists have told us 1. the economy would crash beyond salvaging if trump was elected 2. trump is hitler 3. ending net neutrality would lead to deaths 4. ending obamacare would lead to mass death 5. leaving the paris climate accords would lead to deaths 6. every conservative in this country is a white supremacist, nazi, deplorable 7. trump colluded with the russians 8. russian facebook memes stole the election 9. the world will end in 12 years due to global warming 10. police officers are indiscriminately gunning down unarmed black men all over the country

scaremongering is all the democrats know how to do.

let me know when you call rachel maddow, nancy pelosi, barack obama, hillary clinton, and chuck shumer and tell them to cut it out

Amen brother.

[Masterofreality]

Amazing how the Leftist Dems in the House are way more concerned with perpetuating a non-crime, and the alleged "obstruction" of that non-crime by throwing up red herrings and smoke by wanting to hold countless "hearings" and "conferences" to further a disproven Conspiracy Theory. Rather, how about actually addressing legislation that may help solve the current Immigration Crisis- which it really is despite Jim Acosta's carefully placed visit to a remote Texas border location where no one tries to cross- and health care and infrastructure issues. How about just stopping the Trump Derangement Syndrome and maybe do something you were elected to do?

This next election is gonna be fun. A bunch of 2 year Reps that got elected that will be running for re-election on a platform of nothing done but preaching hatred of the current administration and boolsheet. Can't wait to see that empty sheet of accomplishments. That's definitely a plan to govern, Dems. Keep shooting yourselves in the ass.

[Caf]

Why is it worth it? I am genuinely asking and interested in your reasoning?

From my view it's worth it solely for intellectual property. In my understanding shifting production back to the United States is fairly unrealistic. However in the face of enormous income inequality partly boosted by suppressed Chinese wages and resulting prices, it's worth a shot to bring back those jobs.

[xubrew]

Amazing how the Leftist Dems in the House are way more concerned with perpetuating a non-crime, and the alleged "obstruction" of that non-crime by throwing up red herrings and smoke by wanting to hold countless "hearings" and "conferences" to further a disproven Conspiracy Theory. Rather, how about actually addressing legislation that may help solve the current Immigration Crisis- which it really is despite Jim Acosta's carefully placed visit to a remote Texas border location where no one tries to cross- and health care and infrastructure issues. How about just stopping the Trump Derangement Syndrome and maybe do something you were elected to do?

This next election is gonna be fun. A bunch of 2 year Reps that got elected that will be running for re-election on a platform of nothing done but preaching hatred of the current administration and boolsheet. Can't wait to see that empty sheet of accomplishments. That's definitely a plan to govern, Dems. Keep shooting yourselves in the ass[.


Question...

What makes you so sure that isn't going to work?

[xudash]

Amazing how the Leftist Dems in the House are way more concerned with perpetuating a non-crime, and the alleged "obstruction" of that non-crime by throwing up red herrings and smoke by wanting to hold countless "hearings" and "conferences" to further a disproven Conspiracy Theory. Rather, how about actually addressing legislation that may help solve the current Immigration Crisis- which it really is despite Jim Acosta's carefully placed visit to a remote Texas border location where no one tries to cross- and health care and infrastructure issues. How about just stopping the Trump Derangement Syndrome and maybe do something you were elected to do?

This next election is gonna be fun. A bunch of 2 year Reps that got elected that will be running for re-election on a platform of nothing done but preaching hatred of the current administration and boolsheet. Can't wait to see that empty sheet of accomplishments. That's definitely a plan to govern, Dems. Keep shooting yourselves in the ass.

AOC is focused on saving ducks from becoming duct tape, so she has that resume event to offer.

[bobbiemcgee]

AOC is focused on saving ducks from becoming duct tape, so she has that resume event to offer.

People get excited by AOC's and the Steve Kings in Congress. Keep in mind they are 1/535th. Lots of morons running around including the "grim reaper" lol

[xudash]

People get excited by AOC's and the Steve Kings in Congress. Keep in mind they are 1/535th. Lots of morons running around including the "grim reaper" lol

Nice try. She doesn't excite me. She makes me laugh.

And she is an embarrassment to the Democratic Party, along with Pocahontas and a number of other loons.

[scoscox]

From my view it's worth it solely for intellectual property. In my understanding shifting production back to the United States is fairly unrealistic. However in the face of enormous income inequality partly boosted by suppressed Chinese wages and resulting prices, it's worth a shot to bring back those jobs.

I agree caf. All the hand wringing about tariffs is a little tiresome. There’s a reason other countries do it to us and we did it to them in the past. We simply can’t afford to be totally altruistic in trade all the time. Something has to be done about China and nobody else seems to have any plan other then to let them keep taking us for all we’re worth. And I don’t think it plays badly politically at all. Trumps base is made up of probably the majority of people who’ve been complaining about cheap Chinese goods and the Chinese taking American jobs for years. People are happy to see a little push back even if it means higher prices

[GoMuskies]

And she is an embarrassment to the Democratic Party, along with Pocahontas and a number of other loons.

Elizabeth Warren is a brilliant, accomplished professional who I happen to disagree with politically on just about everything. AOC is neither brilliant nor accomplished and does not belong in a comparison with Warren.

[noteggs]

Just joined the #walkout of the House chamber to protest the shameful, politically-motivated GOP vote holding AG Holder in contempt

Jerry Nadler
Tweeted in 2012

Perhaps slightly hypocritical? Never mind - forgot there “was not one whisper of a scandal” in Obama’s administration according to Biden.

[paulxu]

How can the House accomplish any of the things you want when McConnell will just block it in the Senate?

[Masterofreality]

I agree caf. All the hand wringing about tariffs is a little tiresome. There’s a reason other countries do it to us and we did it to them in the past. We simply can’t afford to be totally altruistic in trade all the time. Something has to be done about China and nobody else seems to have any plan other then to let them keep taking us for all we’re worth. And I don’t think it plays badly politically at all. Trumps base is made up of probably the majority of people who’ve been complaining about cheap Chinese goods and the Chinese taking American jobs for years. People are happy to see a little push back even if it means higher prices

Including our Democrat Senator Sherrod Brown. I'm actually not hearing too much squawk from the Dems about this- probably because they've been privately wishing for this for a while, but they're too chickensheet too do anything.
This is actually going to play well, and with the economy going good it's the best time to do it. Obama was too scared.

[Masterofreality]

How can the House accomplish any of the things you want when McConnell will just block it in the Senate?

Uh, how about coming up with some reasonable solutions? That might actually make the Repubs have to react? The Dems are just abjectly stupid right now by continuing this charade. The Independents see right through it.

The Dems have zero solutions, so they just hide behind this phony outrage to waste time.

[Masterofreality]

Elizabeth Warren is a brilliant, accomplished professional who I happen to disagree with politically on just about everything. AOC is neither brilliant nor accomplished and does not belong in a comparison with Warren.


Elizabeth Warren is also 1/1064 Native American. And so brilliant that she got roped, hog-tied and slung horseback into a DNA test by Trump's bait. #EyeRoll

[scoscox]

Elizabeth Warren is a brilliant, accomplished professional who I happen to disagree with politically on just about everything. AOC is neither brilliant nor accomplished and does not belong in a comparison with Warren.

But what does that have to do with her being an embarrassment to the party and a total loon?

[GoMuskies]

But what does that have to do with her being an embarrassment to the party and a total loon?

Let's just make sure we categorize these people correctly. There are serious, accomplished people with bad (IMO) political opinions.

And then there are AOC, Illan and people of that ilk who are not serious, accomplished people.

We need more of the people from group 1 (with varying political opinions) in Congress and many fewer from group 2.

[bobbiemcgee]

The Independents see right through it.




Independents and Women won the Midterms for the Dems bcuz of their disgust for Trump. So go home and punch your wife.

[xudash]

Let's just make sure we categorize these people correctly. There are serious, accomplished people with bad (IMO) political opinions.

And then there are AOC, Illan and people of that ilk who are not serious, accomplished people.

We need more of the people from group 1 (with varying political opinions) in Congress and many fewer from group 2.

If you want to go down this road, then you have to add the ability to reason and think critically. Otherwise, pure intellect probably is literally wasted.

She, like many of her compatriots, comes off looking batshit crazy, foaming at the mouth for impeachment.

[bobbiemcgee]

Uh, how about coming up with some reasonable solutions? That might actually make the Repubs have to react?

The Dems have zero solutions, so they just hide behind this phony outrage to waste time.

One example. 90% of Americans want expanded background checks for gun purchases. The bill is in the Senate. The Reaper won't bring it to the floor bcuz it will cost him NRA bucks. You can still buy a gun if you're on the "no fly" list. Pathetic.

[Juice]

One example. 90% of Americans want expanded background checks for gun purchases. The bill is in the Senate. The Reaper won't bring it to the floor bcuz it will cost him NRA bucks. You can still buy a gun if you're on the "no fly" list. Pathetic.

Because the no fly list doesn’t constitute due process when restricting someone’s constitutional rights.

[bobbiemcgee]

Because the no fly list doesn’t constitute due process when restricting someone’s constitutional rights.

there was legislation that was blocked by NRA Republicans.

[paulxu]

One of you guys want to tweet Trump and let him know that China is not the one paying tariffs?

[xudash]

One of you guys want to tweet Trump and let him know that China is not the one paying tariffs?

Paul, I think this is mostly about IP. If you're suggesting that we pay with higher prices, that only becomes true if China can move their goods.

Either way, this is more complicated than fair trade, and the President's focus is well placed in that regard. The Chinese are thieves.

[bobbiemcgee]

I hope they cost more me than my Costco membership.

[paulxu]

Paul, I think this is mostly about IP. If you're suggesting that we pay with higher prices, that only becomes true if China can move their goods.

Either way, this is more complicated than fair trade, and the President's focus is well placed in that regard. The Chinese are thieves.

Dash, I agree it is much more complicated than it seems. But I'm confused on why he keeps repeating that China is paying. They are clearly not, and Kudlow admitted that the American consumer is paying for the tariffs. The intellectual theft and other problems China creates need to be addressed.
But he should be honest about the realities.

Billions have been lost by farmers, and he is asking for another 15 billion for them. So we are getting hit twice. The Chinese products are still coming in and are on our shelves; they just cost us more.

[xudash]

Dash, I agree it is much more complicated than it seems. But I'm confused on why he keeps repeating that China is paying. They are clearly not, and Kudlow admitted that the American consumer is paying for the tariffs. The intellectual theft and other problems China creates need to be addressed.
But he should be honest about the realities.

Billions have been lost by farmers, and he is asking for another 15 billion for them. So we are getting hit twice. The Chinese products are still coming in and are on our shelves; they just cost us more.

I can't speak for his tactics when it comes to communication and negotiations. On one or many levels you're making a fair point.

Having noted that, please consider:

1. That the Chinese are perpetually dishonest - we (the world) would be in a better place if they played by ethical rules; and

2. You're asking that a non-political man in the world's most powerful political office be honest on a global issue that is bigger than trade.

You have every right to ask for honesty. But please enjoy a good bourbon as you sit by your phone, waiting for the never-coming response to your request. I don't believe he's talking to the American people. I believe he's talking over the American people to the Chinese negotiators. And the Chinese have never seen the likes of Trump or his staff at the negotiating table. This is where this becomes business to him and not political peacocking like it would be with a pure politician, and that frankly is a good thing.

Otherwise, I wonder if the Chinese products are still coming in at the same level as when none of this fussing was taking place. At this point and level, pain is felt by both sides. Pain and good negotiations will hopefully bring us to a mutually beneficial conclusion.

And that mutually beneficial conclusion will most likely be breached by the Chinese at some point.

[bjf123]

I think when Trump says China pays, he could be thinking long term if companies currently having their products made in China move them elsewhere to avoid the higher costs resulting from the tariffs. They’ll be paying in terms of lost revenue coming into the country. Short term, the US consumers will end up paying the higher tariffs.


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[Masterofreality]

These are from the NY Post...but all #Truth

https://nypost.com/2019/05/12/trumps-policies-are-doing-the-exact-opposite-of-what-democrats-warned/

and this... #GiveItUpDems

https://nypost.com/2019/05/12/dems-should-drop-anti-trump-platform-and-become-a-genuine-party/

And Finally This #YeahMitch

https://nypost.com/2019/05/07/mitch-mcconnell-mueller-cleared-trump-now-get-over-it/

[paulxu]

Fair points Dash. He is speaking to his base and unfortunately they will buy into anything.
It is extremely complex, and recognition of the inter-connectivity of the global market is just now catching up for a lot of people.
Many examples of American businesses being hurt because China does sub assembly, then ships back here of completion...and many more like it.

Maybe Trump shorted a bunch of stocks yesterday :)

[Masterofreality]

Maybe I'm speaking to the Catholic choir here, but all this outrage over the new Anti-Abortion laws being passed is amazing to me.
Taking the context that admitted racist Margaret Sanger basically expressed that permitting abortion was a way to minimize births from Women of Color, which all the "progressive left" seem to just ignore, the screaming that a woman would lose her "reproductive rights" just because she was irresponsible in advance of sex, or blatantly ignoring the potential outcomes immediately after is almost hilarious. Yeah, look, us guys are stupid animals and many are totally irresponsible too, but hey, "enlightened women". How about thinking through your actions and stop killing baby humans if you're actions produce a "product".
And, yeah. I will say from the mountaintop that if either of my daughters became pregnant in any circumstance, we would be right there to support her in having that child and help raise it. The folks across the street had that exact circumstance happen (not rape) and they stepped right up and helped their daughter and it has been a superb outcome for all of them. I know that not all people are so fortunate, but this shouting defense of abortion seems so in concert with the Outrage Culture of the entire Left. They are already organizing a "Women's March" for the summer. Perfect. Another garbage "action" that makes the participants feel good about how "woke" they are and accomplishes zero.
Roe v Wade at it's heart was a States Rights issue, and now the States are exercising their rights. This will be an interesting Supreme Court case in a couple of years. Public Opinion in the US is exactly evenly split- 47% for and 47% against abortion, so the narrative that abortion is "the will of the people" is bunk junk.

By the way, Way to Go Ohio!!

[GoMuskies]

Women and men support/oppose abortion in roughly the same percentages. I suppose for the pro-life women it is just a case of internalized misogyny.

[noteggs]

My youngest daughter called me today from the high school nurse’s office. Apparently I had to give the nurse consent so she could give my daughter two Advil’s.

Let me get this straight, a high school girl needs parental consent to be given Advil but certain states don’t require consent for an abortion (an actual medical procedure). Strange

[GoMuskies]

It seems Australian elections have sealed the fate of the world. We're doomed. Or so I'm led to believe based on Twitter reactions.

I guess this is the end all! I'll miss you guys!

[scoscox]

Yea, I've never seen such a reaction for reelecting an incumbent. i thought it was some crazy shift in australian politics or something, but nah he just got reelected

[bjf123]

Yea, I've never seen such a reaction for reelecting an incumbent. i thought it was some crazy shift in australian politics or something, but nah he just got reelected

If you think that’s bad, just wait and see if, or should I say when, Trump gets re-elected, Twitter users here will be saying “Hold my beer.”


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[xubrew]

People who are outraged at corporate greed and hate all the tax breaks that they get are also outraged about the high tariffs that many of those same businesses are now having to pay!

Many who are against raising taxes on the wealthy and/or the corporations love the tariffs!!


More evidence to my theory that pretty much everyone sucks.

[Masterofreality]

Yea, I've never seen such a reaction for reelecting an incumbent. i thought it was some crazy shift in australian politics or something, but nah he just got reelected

What??? You mean "climate change" doubters actually overwhelmingly voted to keep the Climate Change Doubting Government in power?
Damn, I thought the "Science was settled".

[ChicagoX]

Republicans hate socialism, except when they don't:

NPR: White House To Announce $16 Billion In Aid To Farmers Hurt By Trade War With China (https://www.npr.org/2019/05/23/726117690/white-house-to-announce-16-billion-in-aid-to-farmers-hurt-by-trade-war-with-chin?)

[noteggs]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/21/politics/texas-house-chick-fil-a-bill/index.html

This constant obsession with Chick Fil A religious beliefs really is stunning! IMO nicest fast food chain in the country and there’re closed on the Christian Sabbath. Now they are criticized for giving money to Salvation Army because of their religious beliefs on marriage. Come on the Salvation Army! Look at their view of the LBGTQ community.

https://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/the-lgbtq-community-and-the-salvation-army/

[paulxu]

Current farmers bailout from tariffs that obviously hurt Americans (farmers), not the Chinese = $28 billion dollars from taxpayers.

It would cost about $20 billion for the government to effectively eliminate homelessness in the United States, a Housing and Urban Development official told the New York Times on Monday.Dec 11, 2012

#MAGA

[bobbiemcgee]

62 million will again go to Brazilian crooks.

[Caf]

Buttigieg: Trump faked being disabled to get out of Vietnam - The Hill (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/445220-buttigieg-trump-faked-being-disabled-to-get-out-of-vietnam)

Things are getting spicy!