Games involving other Big East Members 2016-2017

[bobbiemcgee]

Secret Scrimmages: Providence over Carleton (Canada) 87-69 - Eddie Ekiyor with 9/6. Hoyas over Manhattan. LJ Peaks stars. Marquette stuffs Flyers. Macura and Bluiett reportedly had 26 each in X win over UGA.

[X-band '01]

Providence was an open exhibition since Carleton is not a D-I team.

[Juice]

Reags from Barstool wrote a Big East preview

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/2016-big-east-basketball-preview-storylines-and-standings/

[XMuskieFTW]

Reags from Barstool wrote a Big East preview

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/2016-big-east-basketball-preview-storylines-and-standings/

They actually have the same order of rankings for the Big East teams that I would have had. Gotta feel for Billy Garrett and another almost certain last place finish.

[bobbiemcgee]

"Nova crushed Indiana U of Pa? 93-46 and Creighton slipped by Wayne Newton State 93-46 in exhibitions.

[Muskie]

Here's the Friday Night Tilt:

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MATCHUP

TIME (ET)
NAT TV
LOCATION
TICKETS


Vanderbilt (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/238/vanderbilt-commodores)
Marquette (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/269/marquette-golden-eagles)
6:30 PM (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400910818)
CBSSN
Alumni Hall, Annapolis, Maryland
Buy on StubHub (http://stubhub.com/ncaa-basketball-tickets?gcid=C12289x967)


Lafayette (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/322/lafayette-leopards)
#4Villanova (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/222/villanova-wildcats)
6:30 PM (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400918290)
FS2
The Pavilion , Villanova, Pennsylvania
66 tickets available from $61 (http://www.stubhub.com/villanova-basketball-tickets-villanova-vs-lafayette-11-11-2016/event/9669284/?gcid=C12289x967&keyword=villanova+wildcats)


Lehigh (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2329/lehigh-mountain-hawks)
#7Xavier (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2752/xavier-musketeers)
7:00 PM (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400918291)

Cintas Center, Cincinnati, Ohio
220 tickets available from $9 (http://www.stubhub.com/xavier-basketball-tickets-xavier-vs-lehigh-11-11-2016/event/9668579/?gcid=C12289x967&keyword=xavier+musketeers)


Fairleigh Dickinson (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/161/fairleigh-dickinson-knights)
Seton Hall (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2550/seton-hall-pirates)
7:00 PM (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400919134)

Walsh Gymnasium, South Orange, New Jersey



UMKC (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/140/umkc-kangaroos)
#22Creighton (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/156/creighton-bluejays)
9:00 PM (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400917464)
FS2
CenturyLink Center Omaha, Omaha, Nebraska



Bethune-Cookman (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2065/bethune-cookman-wildcats)
St John's (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2599/st-johns-red-storm)
9:00 PM (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400919641)
FS2
Carnesecca Arena, Queens, New York


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[Muskie]

6-0 or 5-1 isn't out of the question to start the season off for the Big East. I have no idea how Marquette will play, or if Vandy is any good.

[bobbiemcgee]

KenPom predicting 6-0 start.

[Muskie]

KenPom predicting 6-0 start.

I think that's likely. Just didn't know if Bryce Drew may be able to get more out of Vandy over a rebuilding Marquette?

[bobbiemcgee]

6-0 start. Nice.

[X-band '01]

Nicer when you see what happened in the A-10 and American last night. Fordham, Saint Louis, UConn and Tulsa did not exactly have banner nights.

[bobbiemcgee]

Some big games this week:

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/schedule?group=14

[bigdiggins]

I caught some DePaul v Robert Morris on Sunday. It appears X is practicing having UC play at the Cintas Center by letting DePaul play in the Kohlhepp auxiliary gym. Hope that doesn't interfere with practice.

[XUFan09]

I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet, but it's awesome that Villanova notched the road win against #17 Purdue. I don't know anything about the game yet, other than they won by three.

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[xukeith]

I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet, but it's awesome that Villanova notched the road win against #17 Purdue. I don't know anything about the game yet, other than they won by three.

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Huge win on road for BE. Villanova hung on to slim lead last 2 minutes over a good solid Purdue team (top 25).

15-0 BE. Only undefeated conference.

[American X]

I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet, but it's awesome that Villanova notched the road win against #17 Purdue. I don't know anything about the game yet, other than they won by three.

I had Villanova-Purdue on TV while listening to the Xavier game. Villanova looked like.................well, Villanova - resilient and calm under pressure. Purdue kept making small runs, but Nova held them off from ever taking the lead. Solid win, great scalp for the conference.

[bobbiemcgee]

C'mon Jays and Hoyas!

[Lloyd Braun]

Hoyas crapped the bed. That was a disaster.

[gladdenguy]

Talk about shittin the bed. That was pathetic. JT 3 is terrible.

[X-Men]

Let a quality win for them and the conference slip right through their fingers.

[Emp]

Maryland trapped the same corner four or five times in a row. Ummmm.....

That said, their long reliance on DSR is hurting early, but they have some studs who can score. And they get to the line. Our. D will have fits.

[Emp]

I love the way McDermottS teams play basketball.

[bobbiemcgee]

Onions @ BU

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/watch-butler-escapes-beats-northwestern-with-last-second-shot/

[XUMIOH12]

that was a pretty entertaining game, as it was pretty close most of the way.

[American X]

Jimmy Chitwood impersonation in Hinkle Fieldhouse

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/watch-butler-escapes-beats-northwestern-with-last-second-shot/

Fixed that for you.

"I'll make it."

[X-band '01]

Nova is letting Western Michigan hang around well into the 1st half.

[XUMIOH12]

Nova is letting Western Michigan hang around well into the 1st half.

well into the 2nd half too

[D-West & PO-Z]

Georgetown down 3 with the ball 14.6 sec left against Arkansas State.

Are they in some on campus gym? Its tiny.

[GoMuskies]

Can they just fire JT3 already? I have no idea why he is still employed.

[BMoreX]

Georgetown down 3 with the ball 14.6 sec left against Arkansas State.

Are they in some on campus gym? Its tiny.

Yeah. McDonough.

What a train wreck Georgetown is.

Can't wait to play them on NYE when Xavier fans will likely outnumber Hoyas fans again this year.

[paulxu]

This is not good news. I wonder if it is one of those situations where a coach loses the team.

For the conference, it would be good if Georgetown was good.

[Xville]

This is not good news. I wonder if it is one of those situations where a coach loses the team.

For the conference, it would be good if Georgetown was good.

I think the conference has done just fine with them sucking ass but i get what you mean. Jt3 has to go..the guy is a freaking terrible coach..i mean really terrible. Hes no Frank haith, no one is, but still not good.

[X-band '01]

Can they just fire JT3 already? I have no idea why he is still employed.

Georgetown students agree with you - they were chanting "Fire Thompson" at the end of the game.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Is the Michigan/Marquette game not part of the Gavitt games? Or is it that and this 2K classic?

[Juice]

Georgetown students agree with you - they were chanting "Fire Thompson" at the end of the game.

The demise of their program makes me so happy. F*ck Georgetown.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The demise of their program makes me so happy. F*ck Georgetown.

Brand new pinned post on their board by Admin:

"Repeating:

1. NO calls to rescind scholarships or dismiss the staff. Any such posts will be pulled promptly and without warning.

2. NO personal attacks on fellow posters, Georgetown players, coaches, recruited student-athletes, or athletics staff will be allowed."


Havent read anything else on their but must be melting down.

[X-band '01]

Is the Michigan/Marquette game not part of the Gavitt games? Or is it that and this 2K classic?

It's the 2K Classic and not part of the Gavitt Games. All of the Gavitt Games hosted by the Big Ten are on BTN. Big East currently leads this year 3-2.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It's the 2K Classic and not part of the Gavitt Games. All of the Gavitt Games hosted by the Big Ten are on BTN. Big East currently leads this year 3-2.

Isnt the DePaul/Rutgers game part of it? Its on FS1 at DePaul?

[spursy]

Isnt the DePaul/Rutgers game part of it? Its on FS1 at DePaul?

Yeah, games with Big East hosts are on FS1. B10 hosts are on BTN.

That said, get to to BTN. This SHU/Iowa game has been the best of the day.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah, games with Big East hosts are on FS1. B10 hosts are on BTN.

That said, get to to BTN. This SHU/Iowa game has been the best of the day.

Oh I see what he was saying.

[Juice]

Brand new pinned post on their board by Admin:

"Repeating:

1. NO calls to rescind scholarships or dismiss the staff. Any such posts will be pulled promptly and without warning.

2. NO personal attacks on fellow posters, Georgetown players, coaches, recruited student-athletes, or athletics staff will be allowed."


Havent read anything else on their but must be melting down.

I agree with the part about not talking about scholarships of players. They're just teenagers and 20 year olds doing their best. But any fan base should be able to call for the head of their coach. Fans and alumni pay that man's salary either directly or indirectly. He makes millions. His isn't above criticism.

[Olsingledigit]

BE not faring too well. Maybe the BE is not as good as we thought.

[X-band '01]

Isnt the DePaul/Rutgers game part of it? Its on FS1 at DePaul?

It is, but I'd feel safer looking at porn in front of the family on Thanksgiving than watching that game.

[X-band '01]

BE not faring too well. Maybe the BE is not as good as we thought.

The conference really wasn't tested until tonight. What Georgetown did was really inexcusable.

[xu82]

I agree with the part about not talking about scholarships of players. They're just teenagers and 20 year olds doing their best. But any fan base should be able to call for the head of their coach. Fans and alumni pay that man's salary either directly or indirectly. He makes millions. His isn't above criticism.
Agreed regarding laying off the kids - 100%. And if JT3 were my team's coach, I'd have to make some noise and would feel completely justified. Now, how much should the board allow? That's up to them I guess, but he seems like fair game to me.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I agree with the part about not talking about scholarships of players. They're just teenagers and 20 year olds doing their best. But any fan base should be able to call for the head of their coach. Fans and alumni pay that man's salary either directly or indirectly. He makes millions. His isn't above criticism.

Agree 100%

[GoMuskies]

Losing at home to Rutgers is embarrassing.

[Juice]

BE not faring too well. Maybe the BE is not as good as we thought.

Besides the Georgetown game, which game are you really shocked by? Every loss tonight seems expected or at least plausible.

[paulxu]

Is this where the Fire Mack thread is this year?

Also, the BE has the #1 RPI.

[Olsingledigit]

Besides the Georgetown game, which game are you really shocked by? Every loss tonight seems expected or at least plausible.
Marquette. Thought they would be better

[Juice]

Marquette. Thought they would be better

Really? After they lost Ellenson? They were picked to finish 7th in the Big East. Michigan is receiving votes, albeit only 3, in the coaches poll.

[XUMIOH12]

Really? After they lost Ellenson? They were picked to finish 7th in the Big East. Michigan is receiving votes, albeit only 3, in the coaches poll.

yeah it shouldn't really be that surprising. They still have no shooters. It's essentially the exact same team as last year, but without their best player from last season.

[Lloyd Braun]

I thought the BE would run the table.

[Masterofreality]

At least Seton Hall got a really good win at Iowa last night.

Hey DePuke. How's that Dave Leito rehiring going so far?

And Georgetown losing to Arkansas State is the most JT3 Georgetowny thing ever. They'll never be able to cut that cord though.

[American X]

Can we trade Georgetown for another team? Or least a keg of beer?

You know how football teams script their first 15 plays? Up 7 with a minute to go against Maryland, it was like Georgetown had scripted 10 stupid things to do in a row to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[bleedXblue]

Marquette. Thought they would be better

They looked dreadful. Really, really bad.

I wonder if Wojo is getting nervous?

[Masterofreality]

@MattNorlander I’m told by a source that Georgetown paid $95,000 to host and lose to A-State. A buy game that ends in a W. The epitome of euphoria.

[Emp]

@MattNorlander I’m told by a source that Georgetown paid $95,000 to host and lose to A-State. A buy game that ends in a W. The epitome of euphoria.

Um, hoisting that Q memorial scotch early and often?

I'm naive....who pays 95K for any game, let alone one in the practice gym? Someone at A St has compromiseing photos of a Gtown frat's SlavesRUs Party?

If true, new meaning for "Those Rock(head)s" slogan.

[Xuperman]

Anyone who hasn't already done so, needs to check out the Creighton box score against Washington St........impressive

[GoMuskies]

I wish I had named one of my kids Tacko Fall.

[muskiefan82]

Creighton is the real deal.

[Masterofreality]

Creighton is the real deal.

Yes, yes they are. Awesome dismantling of NC State. Take THAT ACC.

So let's review. The new Big East member- all of them- are doing just fine, thank you. Nova, thank Gawd, is Nova. But DePuke is still DePuke and oh, my, GTown & St. John's. WTF?

How the mighty have fallen., but we need those jerks to get back the F up!

[muskiefan82]

Article in Raleigh should read:

"N.C. State officials retreat to their safe space. School officials and players say they found Creighton's style of play incredibly offensive in 112-94 loss. One of the players who is friends with another from Creighton was blown away by their offensiveness and stated that he "can't find a way to defend what they did."

[Masterofreality]

Article in Raleigh should read:

"N.C. State officials retreat to their safe space. School officials and players say they found Creighton's style of play incredibly offensive in 112-94 loss. One of the players who is friends with another from Creighton was blown away by their offensiveness and stated that he "can't find a way to defend what they did."


Remember that this is North Carolina, so their "safe space" would NOT be gender neutral.
Course, it was pretty clear that Creighton grabbed NC State by their pussies last night, so there really is no doubt. :rolleyes:

[Olsingledigit]

They looked dreadful. Really, really bad.

I wonder if Wojo is getting nervous?

I agree they did look bad. I expected more from Wojo. I would expect the heat to come soon for Wojo.

[Olsingledigit]

Yes, yes they are. Awesome dismantling of NC State. Take THAT ACC.

So let's review. The new Big East member- all of them- are doing just fine, thank you. Nova, thank Gawd, is Nova. But DePuke is still DePuke and oh, my, GTown & St. John's. WTF?

How the mighty have fallen., but we need those jerks to get back the F up!
Can't argue with anything you said, MOR. Butler actually might be better than anyone thought. Doyel wrote an article on their freshman, Baldwin, who has really picked Butler up another notch.

[X-band '01]

Kamar Baldwin was the one who hit the game-winner for Butler against Northwestern last week. I'm a little surprised Butler needed to resort to it, but that's the kind of game that will give a guy like Baldwin a lot of confidence to take that shot again in the clutch.

[paulxu]

I'm not sure if power rankings mean anything, but they did earn Creighton an apology from Goodman.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18101018/indiana-hoosiers-jump-kentucky-wildcats-duke-blue-devils-others

[muskiefan82]

3 Top 10 and 4 in the Top 25. I will take it.

[xudash]

I'm not sure if power rankings mean anything, but they did earn Creighton an apology from Goodman.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18101018/indiana-hoosiers-jump-kentucky-wildcats-duke-blue-devils-others

Kevin Willard lost Isaiah Whitehead but returns the other four starters. The coach also added freshman Myles Powell (15.3 PPG). Khadeen Carrington is leading the team at 21.7 points per game, but he has had plenty of help from Desi Rodriguez, Angel Delgado and Powell. Seton Hall is one of the few power league teams that has a true road win -- at Iowa.

Don't you just love the respect for the Big East!

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/schedule?group=14

except the Hoyas suck!

[BandAid]

There may be a wider gap than usual this year between the bottom of the conference and the top. Georgetown, St. John's, DePaul, Marquette and Providence leave a bit to be desired. Granted, they're all dangerous for a single game and Georgetown will probably right the ship, but...

[X-band '01]

Now this looks more like the Georgetown we've expected the last few years. How long they'll be able to sustain this against Oregon is another question.

[GoMuskies]

Now this looks more like the Georgetown we've expected the last few years. How long they'll be able to sustain this against Oregon is another question.

As I said after Baylor smoked Oregon....maybe Oregon just isn't that good.

[bobbiemcgee]

I'll check in on the final score....watching and listening to Walton for this long would be like self-imposed torture.:spaz:

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, I'm going with Oregon just being flat bad at this point. No other explanation for being down 17 to Georgetown at the half.

[bobbiemcgee]

yep, shooting 24% and 11% from 3 and that's with Dillion Brooks back, but no lead is safe with the hoyas.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Oregon is without two major contributors at the moment. They are a very good team and like us are missing guys.

[GoMuskies]

Ha, that's more like the Hoyas we know and hate.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Brooks is playing, and when I caught it he is doing pretty well now. Hoya's by 2, 8 mins left.


Ha, that's more like the Hoyas we know and hate.

[bleedXblue]

How can you have no idea how to break a press? JTIII is the worst in game coach in America.

[GoMuskies]

Congrats to Georgetown. Big win for whether Oregon turns out to be really good or not (considering they lost to Arkansas State last time out)!

[X-band '01]

North Dakota State > Arkansas State > Georgetown > Oregon

[xudash]

They showed a graphic which reflected that Georgetown was shooting at the rate of 6% almost a full nine minutes into the second half.

I'm just glad they found a way to pull this one out. Obviously, they needed this win badly.

[Masterofreality]

And Creighton wraps up their Virgin Islands trip with a 'Ship over Andy (beat up a Cincy cab driver) Kennedy's Ole Miss team.

League is rolling.

[bleedXblue]

And Creighton wraps up their Virgin Islands trip with a 'Ship over Andy (beat up a Cincy cab driver) Kennedy's Ole Miss team.

League is rolling.

Creighton looks very, very good. They can shoot.....really shoot and have some big athletic guys for a change.

[Masterofreality]

@JonRothstein The Big East has a combined record of 33-7 through the first week and a half of the season. New rendition of league looks beyond healthy.

[xu2010]

RPI isn't a great measure at this point, but the Big East looks great so far:

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

[X-band '01]

Creighton looks very, very good. They can shoot.....really shoot and have some big athletic guys for a change.

One of their bench guys (Zack Hanson) was injured last night - there's no timetable as to when he comes back, though.

[paulxu]

The only other conferences with a better winning % than the BE are the ACC at 48-8 and the Big 12 at 31-3.

More telling is the current OOC strength of schedule.

BE #1
ACC #8
Big 12 #32.

The Big 12 couldn't get an easier OOC schedule, as there are only 32 leagues.

[X-band '01]

And that's with Kansas already playing Indiana and Duke. That is an indictment on everyone else.

[GoMuskies]

And that's with Kansas already playing Indiana and Duke. That is an indictment on everyone else.

Oklahoma should have played us....but choked.

[X-band '01]

Apparently they're not putting much stock into Baylor's win against Oregon for now.

[xukeith]

Oregon #13 lost to of all teams Georgetown.
Geesh.
G'Town has 2 losses against some awful teams.

[bleedXblue]

Will be interesting to see what GT does against a well coached disciplined team in Wisconsin. I think they get beat handily by at least 10

[ron meXico]

So just asking because way more expertise on this than me...
Georgetown hanging tough again with Wisconsin, say they pull it off with two wins in the top 20 this week. Do they move in the top 25? Or does that Arkansas State loss at home kill them too much. Let's face it, they had Maryland on the ropes too and choked. How would that affect their ranking?

[GoMuskies]

If they follow it up with a win over UNC tomorrow, yes. Otherwise, no.

[paulxu]

I would be very surprised if Georgetown wins this game.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Jay Bilas says such dumb things I feel like. I swear he says things like:

"If Smith's shots start falling more often, his shooting % is really going to go up."

Thanks Jay.

[paulxu]

Georgetown has 2 teams. Good Hoyas and Bad Hoyas.
Tonight the Bad Hoyas were on the floor.
Also, the big center for Wisconsin is a player.

[xudash]

Georgetown has 2 teams. Good Hoyas and Bad Hoyas.
Tonight the Bad Hoyas were on the floor.
Also, the big center for Wisconsin is a player.

Obviously, they have not converted back to the good Hoyas yet.

[Masterofreality]

So just asking because way more expertise on this than me...
Georgetown hanging tough again with Wisconsin, say they pull it off with two wins in the top 20 this week. Do they move in the top 25? Or does that Arkansas State loss at home kill them too much. Let's face it, they had Maryland on the ropes too and choked. How would that affect their ranking?

Welp, no reason to waste brain cells thinking about this anymore. Was a good thought, but #JT3Sucks

[Masterofreality]

The Big East is a BEAST again,but the teams in its 3 biggest cities suck. If GTown, St. John's & DePaul EVER are good again,look da hell out

[powerofX]

Love how Arizona is ranked 8th yet Vegas favors butler tonight!

[bleedXblue]

Love how Arizona is ranked 8th yet Vegas favors butler tonight!

that cant be right? Butler isn't even ranked......

[bleedXblue]

Love how Arizona is ranked 8th yet Vegas favors butler tonight!

I would take Zona and the points!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Zona losing to Butler and Miller shouting at his team: "I shoulda stayed at X!"

2116

[GoMuskies]

Butler is folding up like a cheap suit. Bummer.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Butler coming back strong after giving up lead! Up 3 with 29 sec left, Zona ball!

[GoMuskies]

I thought they were done after that 9-0 Arizona run.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I thought they were done after that 9-0 Arizona run.

Yeah didnt look good.

Big win for Butler and BE.

[letskeepitreal]

Butler is pretty mentally tough. Thought they were done against Arizona

[Xuperman]

Butler beat on the boards by 7 and turned it over 15 times and still get the W. Friars get nice win against Tubby and his Memphis Tigers. Don't know if that was an upset but good W for them and the BE machine.

[Xuperman]

Butler vs Utah will be must see TV on Monday night

[X-band '01]

Ladies and gentlemen, Butler is for real. That was Utah's first significant test - they didn't look nearly as seasoned as Butler.

[bleedXblue]

Ladies and gentlemen, Butler is for real. That was Utah's first significant test - they didn't look nearly as seasoned as Butler.

Butler is getting contribution(s) from a bunch of guys right now.

I still don't think the talent level is all that high......

[MuskieXU]

Anyone who watched the Butler/Utah game wanna give your thoughts? I saw the box score and while on the surface Butler dominated, Utah shot absolutely horribly from 2 and even worse from 3. Were they overmatched or did they just have a bad game?

[Xuperman]

Here is the thing and can not be underestimated. Bulldogs are simply better coached. From a preparation stand point and game plan. Butler guy and staff get every oz of effort from limited talent.

[XUMIOH12]

Anyone who watched the Butler/Utah game wanna give your thoughts? I saw the box score and while on the surface Butler dominated, Utah shot absolutely horribly from 2 and even worse from 3. Were they overmatched or did they just have a bad game?

Utah shot poorly, but Butler just looked like a much better team overall. Really nothing new with them, balanced on offense and playing good defense.

[BMoreX]

St John's just lost to #341 KenPom Delaware State

Awful.

[Muskie]

Does Chris Mullin survive this year?


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[bleedXblue]

St John's just lost to #341 KenPom Delaware State

Awful.

They hired Chris Mullen. LOL

Idiots

[xu82]

St John's just lost to #341 KenPom Delaware State

Awful.

The good news is, Del St is unlikely to go down much for winning.

[QueensbridgeMF]

Buffalo staying with Creighton late 1st

[GoMuskies]

Clyde Drexler thinks Chris Mullin is in over his head.

[Xuperman]

Mullin was hired to bring back the ST J past. Had Gene Keady as his assistant to keep it real. Hire Mark Jackson, sign him to a 5 yr 10 mil contract and get the best young recruiting assistants you can find.!! Problem solved:popcorn:

[Muskie]

Mullin was hired to bring back the ST J past. Had Gene Keady as his assistant to keep it real. Hire Mark Jackson, sign him to a 5 yr 10 mil contract and get the best young recruiting assistants you can find.!! Problem solved:popcorn:

Wasn't Gene Keady a special assistant to Steve Lavin? He might have stayed on Mullins staff, but he came back to help Lavin because Keady gave him his first coaching gig.


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[Caf]

St John's just lost to #341 KenPom Delaware State

Awful.

Yeah but their recruits are coming. Just wait... another 10 years.

[American X]

Our games against Creighton are going to be huuuge. Justin Patton is going to be a monster.

[Xuperman]

It was Lavin who had Keady......anyway Mullin doesn't appear to have made any positive change.

[spursy]

Attended the Marquette-UGA game today. Really unimpressed with Marquette. I think Luke Fischer gets worse every year and Jujuan Johnson appears to be the only athlete on that team. I am knocking on wood as I type this, but I am finding it really hard to imagine a scenario in which Xavier does not beat them by double digits.

[94GRAD]

Mullin was hired to bring back the ST J past. Had Gene Keady as his assistant to keep it real. Hire Mark Jackson, sign him to a 5 yr 10 mil contract and get the best young recruiting assistants you can find.!! Problem solved:popcorn:

He does have Mitch Richmond though

[Masterofreality]

Attended the Marquette-UGA game today. Really unimpressed with Marquette. I think Luke Fischer gets worse every year and Jujuan Johnson appears to be the only athlete on that team. I am knocking on wood as I type this, but I am finding it really hard to imagine a scenario in which Xavier does not beat them by double digits.

Luckily Marquette won.

[spursy]

Luckily Marquette won.

Yup, while I was there supporting georgia, I am happy with a win for the Big East.

I just don't know why georgia fans are content with Mark Fox. UGA looked so under coached. Part of that is their point guard Frazier who makes Mark Lyons look apprehensive in comparison, but I digress.

[XUMIOH12]

didnt hurt Marquette to start off 10/14 from 3 (finished 13/29), hell they made 8 of their first 9

[American X]

Three ranked Big East teams on the road tonight:

#16 Butler @ Indiana State
#10 Creighton @ Nebraska
#13 Xavier @ Colorado

Also, Seton Hall vs. California at Pearl Harbor Invitational. All four games should be competitive.

[paulxu]

Butler needs to get it together. Quickly.

[Xville]

Yup, while I was there supporting georgia, I am happy with a win for the Big East.

I just don't know why georgia fans are content with Mark Fox. UGA looked so under coached. Part of that is their point guard Frazier who makes Mark Lyons look apprehensive in comparison, but I digress.

They are content because its basketball. They dont really care.

[Lamont Sanford]

Butler needs to get it together. Quickly.

I think it's safe to say that we need to get our OWN house in order before we start pointing fingers at our conference brethren.

[mistabeecee41]

Wow. Ed, JP and Tre are all potential 1st team BE - and none of them are even close to being at Josh Harts level. Guy just put that team on his back when they needed it.

[X-band '01]

Providence is also a team to watch out for. Rodney Bullock is the 2016-17 version of Ben Bentil - a hidden superstar.

[Xville]

Wow. Ed, JP and Tre are all potential 1st team BE - and none of them are even close to being at Josh Harts level. Guy just put that team on his back when they needed it.

Xavier needs to watch that team and understand toughness, or i guess since im not a d1 athlete so i cant make comments like that, right mack?

[paulxu]

Hammer down Butler.

[bleedXblue]

Wow. Ed, JP and Tre are all potential 1st team BE - and none of them are even close to being at Josh Harts level. Guy just put that team on his back when they needed it.

Josh Hart is the best all around player in the country. He plays hard on every possession, both offensively and defensively. Guy just makes plays....period.

[Masterofreality]

St. John's abjectly sucks.

Losing to LIU Brooklyn......Really?

[X-man]

St. John's abjectly sucks.

Losing to LIU Brooklyn......Really?

It's painful to watch "Coach" Mullin during TO's. He appears totally incapable of telling his players what to do. The assistants talk to the team, while Mullin just points.

[paulxu]

It's painful to watch "Coach" Mullin during TO's. He appears totally incapable of telling his players what to do. The assistants talk to the team, while Mullin just points.

That's interesting. I note that some coaches, when their players come to the sideline for a TO, move away from the huddle...often with their assistants, for their own brief huddle, and then go back to the players. Guess that's OK, but it seems like the coach would know what he wants to do when the players come over for the TO.
Maybe Mack does this as well. I didn't notice it yesterday. He seemed to go right to the huddle with the players and start talking with them.

[bleedXblue]

yeah not sure if St Johns or DePaul has a worse program and in particular just bad decision makers who cant get out of their own way

[X-band '01]

Losing to Rutgers and Northwestern isn't nearly as bad as losing to Delaware State and LIU-Brooklyn.

[MauriceX]

That's interesting. I note that some coaches, when their players come to the sideline for a TO, move away from the huddle...often with their assistants, for their own brief huddle, and then go back to the players. Guess that's OK, but it seems like the coach would know what he wants to do when the players come over for the TO.
Maybe Mack does this as well. I didn't notice it yesterday. He seemed to go right to the huddle with the players and start talking with them.

Mack does the pre-huddle fairly often. I don't watch for it every time out, but it definitely happens some of the time.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah I feel like most coaches do the pre-huddle. I always find it fascinating (in a bad way) when the coaches huddle with the players and it is an assistant drawing up the play and instructing the players. Earlier in this thread (I think this one) I noted that happened in and OSU game where an assistant drew up the play at end of game while Thad was watching from behind.

[muskiefan82]

Mack does the pre-huddle fairly often. I don't watch for it every time out, but it definitely happens some of the time.

It's especially fun when Coach Mack is in the coaches huddle, looks directly at a player and says, "You aren't guarding sh!t!" That was hilarious. And Loud.

[bjf123]

I just caught the tail end of Dan Hoard's weekly interview with Mick Cronin. Sounded like Mick was bitching about the officiating at Butler. He also said something along the lines of never scheduling Big East teams, except for the one he has to play each year. Is he ever not making excuses?


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[Muskie]

I just caught the tail end of Dan Hoard's weekly interview with Mick Cronin. Sounded like Mick was bitching about the officiating at Butler. He also said something along the lines of never scheduling Big East teams, except for the one he has to play each year. Is he ever not making excuses?


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[XUMIOH12]

I just caught the tail end of Dan Hoard's weekly interview with Mick Cronin. Sounded like Mick was bitching about the officiating at Butler. He also said something along the lines of never scheduling Big East teams, except for the one he has to play each year. Is he ever not making excuses?


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that guy is such a loser

[X-band '01]

I'm sure other teams in the American are also thrilled at the prospect of their league being branded a finesse league in comparison to the Big East.

[Xuperman]

Rooting for The Hall to get a W tonite against ranked Gamecocks. Looks like it is gonna be close!

[paulxu]

I'd also like the Hall to get this one.
South Carolina may be for real this year.
They are playing without their leading scorer, (suspended) who also leads the team in rebounds and assists.

[X-band '01]

Did anyone say why Sindarius Thornwell was suspended? I heard it was SC (not necessarily Frank Martin) who actually suspended him.

[muskiefan82]

Close, but well done Hall.

[Xuperman]

Maybe SHU will now get some attention in the polls and emerge as the 5th BE team in the top 25. They are VERY good with 3 solid all Big East players. Starting to put together a quility bench and role players. Love the coach Willard. They will have their share of BE wins against the 4 in front of them. Of course X has had lots of trouble recently.

[EastCoastXman]

SHU is only going to get better. Like XU, they are waiting for an important piece of the puzzle to come back. As we wait for Myles, SHU is waiting for Jevon Thomas. He is the K St point guard transfer who becomes eligible after 1st semester. SHU had 13 turnovers last night against S. Carolina with Carrington forced to play point for a lot of minutes and 5 TO's. The top 5 in BE will be really good. Can't wait for league play to begin.

[Xuperman]

Wow, Thomas is going to be huge at point. If he can rack up 6-8 apg, especially assisting buckets in the paint to Delgado/Rodriguez, look out. Carrington's 3's will most certainly go up but they are missing a true 5. They are better than Butler or Providence......book it!

[Olsingledigit]

We have trouble beating SH also. We went 1-2 against them last year and they are going to be a tough out for us this year.

[X-band '01]

Did anyone say why Sindarius Thornwell was suspended? I heard it was SC (not necessarily Frank Martin) who actually suspended him.

ESPN.com - Sindarius Thornwell Follow-up

Turns out Thornwell was possessing reefer and driving on a suspended license. Not a good combination.

[Juice]

ESPN.com - Sindarius Thornwell Follow-up

Turns out Thornwell was possessing reefer and driving on a suspended license. Not a good combination.

Both are payout tickets in Ohio. We have two players on our roster who were charged with much worse stuff.

[Xuperman]

"Much worse"? Even "worse" is a debate I welcome. Who cares. College days are like a minefield of mistakes. Myles penalty for his actions would be pale to a pot posses AND a DUS in any state.....:read:

[D-West & PO-Z]

Butler beats IU!

IU #9 in the country, #3 (at best) in their state after losses to IPFW and Butler.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Georgetown beats Syracuse
DePaul wins!
Providence also wins

[American X]

Fire Tom Crean!

Butler looked like top 4 seed, Sweet Sixteen team.

[xukeith]

I did not predict it but 7-0 tonight was amazing for BE.
Winning % is very high. ACC dropped a little. BE is 3rd in winning %. That is all important before conference play.
Crazier things can happen but if X goes 10-6 or 9-7 in conference play, a solid NCAA 7 seed.

[bleedXblue]

I did not predict it but 7-0 tonight was amazing for BE.
Winning % is very high. ACC dropped a little. BE is 3rd in winning %. That is all important before conference play.
Crazier things can happen but if X goes 10-6 or 9-7 in conference play, a solid NCAA 7 seed.

We play 18 conference games.......

[waggy]

We play 18 conference games.......

Obviously a hardcore fan.

[xubrew]

I did not predict it but 7-0 tonight was amazing for BE.
Winning % is very high. ACC dropped a little. BE is 3rd in winning %. That is all important before conference play.
Crazier things can happen but if X goes 10-6 or 9-7 in conference play, a solid NCAA 7 seed.


We play 18 conference games.......

Well, his point is still valid. And it isn't just the winning percentage.

Nova won at Purdue and against Notre Dame

Creighton beat Wisconsin

Butler has beaten Arizona and Indiana away from home, and Cincinnati at home

Seton Hall beat South Carolina away from home

Georgetown won at Syracuse

The conference has eight wins against ranked teams, and seven of those were either road games or neutral site games. Compare that to the ACC

Florida State won at home against Florida

Louisville won at home against Purdue

Duke beat Florida up in New York

North Carolina beat Wisconsin on a neutral floor

And....that's it.


Those are just the Top 25 wins. Butler also has wins against Northwestern, who looks to be good, and are currently the only team that's won at Utah. I mean, that is a HELL of a profile!

Xavier picked up some decent wins in the exempt tournament we played in.

Nova has another win or two against likely tournament teams.

The Big East is currently the top rated RPI conference, and there is a very good chance it'll be the top league at the end of the year.

[waggy]

Which of course is a 7 seed.

[xubrew]

Which of course is a 7 seed.

10-8 was a #9 seed last year for both Providence and Butler. It's impossible to go 10-6, but 11-7 is probably the equivalent, and that's probably a solid #7 seed.

[waggy]

Yeah, X is going to go just one or two games over 500.

[xubrew]

Yeah, X is going to go just one or two games over 500.

11-7 would mean being four games over .500.

I think we'll do better than that, but if his point was that posting a record like that would get them about a #7 seed, then I agree. It's also worth pointing out that Xavier will have to play better than they have up until now in order to do better than 10-8 and get a seed that's better than #7. Villanova, Butler, Creighton, and I would even say Seton Hall are all better than anyone who we've beaten up to this point, and are a lot better than some of the teams we've struggled to beat. If we don't play better than what we have up until now, we'll lose both games we play against all four of those teams. We just barely beat Wake and didn't exactly roll over Utah. Those teams aren't likely to end up anywhere near the #7 line, nor would either of them be able to go 10-8 in the Big East. So, what he said wasn't all that outrageous.

[Xuperman]

Based on what we have seen so far, 11 wins is wishful thinking. Team is just not physical enough. So Gaston is to be our "muscle" in the paint? Looks like we are going to try and win on 3 point shooting and defense. Not going to get it done. At this point I worry about Georgetown......not good

[xukeith]

11-7 would mean being four games over .500.

I think we'll do better than that, but if his point was that posting a record like that would get them about a #7 seed, then I agree. It's also worth pointing out that Xavier will have to play better than they have up until now in order to do better than 10-8 and get a seed that's better than #7. Villanova, Butler, Creighton, and I would even say Seton Hall are all better than anyone who we've beaten up to this point, and are a lot better than some of the teams we've struggled to beat. If we don't play better than what we have up until now, we'll lose both games we play against all four of those teams. We just barely beat Wake and didn't exactly roll over Utah. Those teams aren't likely to end up anywhere near the #7 line, nor would either of them be able to go 10-8 in the Big East. So, what he said wasn't all that outrageous.

That is my exact point. It would take a lot for X to screw this up. They have not shown to be a top 15 or top 20 team...so forgive my mental freeze with now 18 conference games.
10-8, 11-7 would be solid 7 seeds. If X only loses 1 home game and loses 6-7 more games on road(including UC), they are RPI - wise set.

Key factor is top 50 wins, which X has plenty of opportunities in BE.

[XUFan09]

Based on what we have seen so far, 11 wins is wishful thinking. Team is just not physical enough. So Gaston is to be our "muscle" in the paint? Looks like we are going to try and win on 3 point shooting and defense. Not going to get it done. At this point I worry about Georgetown......not good
I don't know why you put "muscle" in quotes. Gaston doesn't have a lot of hops but he might be stronger than Reynolds. The dude is jacked. He's also a far better defender. In another thread, you also suggested that Gaston being the top rebounder was unexpected. It wasn't really unexpected by anyone that knows what they're talking about. He has been one of the better rebounders in the country his entire career, and rebounding is something that translates well between levels. Right now, he's in a virtual tie with Angel Delgado for the best total rebounding rate in the Big East, and no one else is close to them.

So yeah, I'm fine with Gaston being the muscle on the interior.

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[Xuperman]

So I take it you feel very comfortable with Rashid carrying the rebounding load going forward along with confidence he can score consistently but who else? Where is the help supposed to come from?.... My point was nothing against him

[XUFan09]

So I take it you feel very comfortable with Rashid carrying the rebounding load going forward along with confidence he can score consistently but who else? Where is the help supposed to come from?.... My point was nothing against him

Wait, so you're concerned about the rebounding and scoring in general? On the rebounding side, the team is in the top 50 in offensive rebounding rate and in the top 15 in defensive rebounding rate. I'm not too worried about that after one poor rebounding game.

On the scoring side, O'Mara will likely return to his scoring ability from last season, when he was a reliable low-post option. After that, I'm not too concerned about low-post scoring, as this team usually plays 4-out-1-in and will do so even more when Myles comes back.

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[paulxu]

What's the O/U on how many more games before the Fire Mack thread makes its annual appearance?

[D-West & PO-Z]

So I take it you feel very comfortable with Rashid carrying the rebounding load going forward along with confidence he can score consistently but who else? Where is the help supposed to come from?.... My point was nothing against him

I would love for him to get some help, but yes I am comfortable with him being out go to guy down there. Why arent you??

[Xuperman]

18 Big East games with UC in the mix is why. I am suggesting that most of these teams can and will game plan to limit Rashid down low and there is no one else for us at this point that will emerge. Just saying team 95 plays a bit soft by BE standards. Just my opinion and you know what they say about those.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I dont think anyone is arguing we need someone to emerge and be a consistent help to Gaston down low. I think your original post seemed to imply you think its an issue that Gaston is the main guy. If your only point is we need more help down low I agree.

[Xuperman]

I most certainly did mean to imply and that IS the issue. I do not follow this board much in the off season but was the plan for Rashid Gaston to be the man down low. Pretty sure Sean was going to be the guy. Gaston and Bernard were to be complimentary pieces as most senior transfers are. Now this is not reality, so I am sceptical about the black and blue inevitability of the BE grind and hoping NO ONE gets hurt!

[paulxu]

Not good.

http://nypost.com/2016/12/18/chris-mullin-doubts-arise-as-st-johns-hits-new-rock-bottom/

[XUFan09]

I most certainly did mean to imply and that IS the issue. I do not follow this board much in the off season but was the plan for Rashid Gaston to be the man down low. Pretty sure Sean was going to be the guy. Gaston and Bernard were to be complimentary pieces as most senior transfers are. Now this is not reality, so I am sceptical about the black and blue inevitability of the BE grind and hoping NO ONE gets hurt!
Gaston was expected to start and that was with Sean practicing well. He was a bit up-and-down early in the season but how he's getting into a groove. If O'Mara turns his game around and starts playing consistently at or near the level of his better games this season, Gaston will still probably start a majority of the time and they'll split minutes similar to how Farr and Reynolds did.

Edit: In the long run, Xavier should have in Gaston a solid offensive option to go with elite rebounding and great defense and in O'Mara a really good offensive option to go with solid rebounding and decent defense. They are complementary pieces. Jones filling out minutes at the 5 with elite rebounding and great shot blocking is just gravy. And if O'Mara doesn't turn things around (IMO unlikely), Jones offers some nice backup minutes and Gaston would just have to play a few more minutes per game.

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[bleedXblue]

It would be nice to start seeing some improvement from O'Mara or Jones. I know Jones is a frosh and not playing many minutes. I do think he should start playing more b/c he brings so much more defensively than Sean does.

[XUFan09]

Not good.

http://nypost.com/2016/12/18/chris-mullin-doubts-arise-as-st-johns-hits-new-rock-bottom/

From the beginning, I felt that the Mullin hire was like swinging for the fences on a 3-2 count. A walk or a single would also be good, but you're going for a home run or a strikeout. It's looking more and more like a strikeout.

[bleedXblue]

From the beginning, I felt that the Mullin hire was like swinging for the fences on a 3-2 count. A walk or a single would also be good, but you're going for a home run or a strikeout. It's looking more and more like a strikeout.

Yeah a desperate program does desperate stupid things.

Let him finish the year and part ways.

[GoMuskies]

Not good.

http://nypost.com/2016/12/18/chris-mullin-doubts-arise-as-st-johns-hits-new-rock-bottom/

They'll probably scare us to death again this year.

[XUFan09]

They'll probably scare us to death again this year.
What sucks is they actually have the talent to beat teams this year. I think they might play spoiler a few times during the conference season (the times that they get their heads out of their asses).

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[paulxu]

What sucks is they actually have the talent to beat teams this year. I think they might play spoiler a few times during the conference season (the times that they get their heads out of their asses).

As long as that doesn't coincide with the same time that we stick ours in.

[XUFan09]

As long as that doesn't coincide with the same time that we stick ours in.
Yup.

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[Cheesehead]

Mullin was hired for name only. The guys is not and X's and O's coach. His assistants do al the work in the huddles and the real coaching. He is a glorified cheerleader who constantly tries to work the refs.

[X-band '01]

They'll probably scare us to death again this year.

Especially in MSG - that game is Sunday night after the Shootout.

[X-band '01]

And speaking of the Shootout, it is awesome of the Mothership to promote the hatred that arises from the Louisville-Kentucky rivalry in all their lead-ins to that game. I mean, what could possibly happen in that one?

#ZipEmUp #NeverForget

[XUFan09]

It would be nice to start seeing some improvement from O'Mara or Jones. I know Jones is a frosh and not playing many minutes. I do think he should start playing more b/c he brings so much more defensively than Sean does.
Sean has been poor recently on the offensive end, but in general he brings a lot more on that end than Tyrique, who is really raw. Also, on the defensive end, it's not like he's Kenny Frease or Matt Stainbrook in terms of mobility. He knows the pack line and its proper positioning well, whereas Tyrique is often out of position.

I suspect a sophomore Tyrique can outshine Sean, but freshman Tyrique is just too raw.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

Nova wins
Butler wins
St. Johns wins
Marquette wins

4-0 tonight.

[MauriceX]

Nova wins
Butler wins
St. Johns wins
Marquette wins

4-0 tonight.

St. Johns didn't just win... they destroyed Syracuse. Granted, Syracuse isn't great. But I would never have thought St. Johns would have won AT Syracuse. Let alone by 33 points.

Fun fact... 9 of the 10 BE teams are currently in the KenPom top 100.

[XUMIOH12]

St. Johns didn't just win... they destroyed Syracuse. Granted, Syracuse isn't great. But I would never have thought St. Johns would have won AT Syracuse. Let alone by 33 points.

Fun fact... 9 of the 10 BE teams are currently in the KenPom top 100.

oh DePaul......

[Michigan Muskie]

St. John's (+13) covered that spread by 46 points. I just read that there is only one team that has covered the spread by a larger margin since this data has been tracked and that was LaSalle (+15 1/2) defeating Xavier by 31 points in January 2000. Oof.

[X-band '01]

Let us never speak of that game again.

#SpeedyMorris'sfinestmoment

[paulxu]

I also read that the St John's game was the largest loss ever suffered by Syracuse in the Carrier Dome.

[Juice]

I also read that the St John's game was the largest loss ever suffered by Syracuse in the Carrier Dome.

Ouch.

TeamRankings.com ‏@TeamRankings
St. John's covered by 46. Only bigger cover margin in our DB is 46.5 (LaSalle +15.5 beat Xavier by 31 in Jan 2000).

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo
St. John's is 2-0 vs Syracuse under Chris Mullin, they are 1-18 vs Big East opponents under Mullin (including Big East Tournament).

[bobbiemcgee]

I also read that the St John's game was the largest loss ever suffered by Syracuse in the Carrier Dome.

Espn covered the hilites for about 5 seconds.

[powerofX]

St. John's (+13) covered that spread by 46 points. I just read that there is only one team that has covered the spread by a larger margin since this data has been tracked and that was LaSalle (+15 1/2) defeating Xavier by 31 points in January 2000. Oof.

Still the only game in the history of my sports fandom, in any sport, where I left early.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Georgetown wins
DePaul loses

[Lloyd Braun]

I want to quit gambling at some point. It's mostly a waste of time and occasionally money (the amount won versus time put into gambling is not staggering by any means). That said DePaul is making it very difficult. They are predictably bad and I am glad to ride their wave of suckiness. They will likely be 25 point dogs to open league play. Yikes.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Providence loses
DePaul loses
Seton Hall wins

[Muskie]

Providence loses
DePaul loses
Seton Hall wins

To be fair, there were like 100 fans in Vegas watching that game, so it's not like anyone noticed how bad DePaul was.


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[American X]

To be fair, there were like 100 fans in Vegas watching that game, so it's not like anyone noticed how bad DePaul was.

There were probably 100 fans nationwide watching that game.

[XUMIOH12]

Providence loses
DePaul loses
Seton Hall wins

Utah beat Hawaii in a nice 3am EST matchup

[xu82]

There were probably 100 fans nationwide watching that game.

I hope there was no stampede getting into the arena!

Official Merry Christmas people! (EST) Have a great one.

[Juice]

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2016/12/26/college-basketball-conference-reset-the-big-easts-best-players-and-biggest-story-lines/

[D-West & PO-Z]

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2016/12/26/college-basketball-conference-reset-the-big-easts-best-players-and-biggest-story-lines/

Good read. Thanks.

[paulxu]

Agreed. Thanks for the link.
Although this was a little sloppy.


The Big East will enter conference play with 40 percent of the league ranked in the top-20. Villanova, Creighton, Butler and Creighton have combined for a 45-3 record.

[Masterofreality]

Somehow St. John's beat Butler last night at Carnesecca.

Then this happened:

"@ButlerMBB Our plane experienced some cabin pressure issues this evening. We were diverted and have landed safely in Pittsburgh. All is well."

I'm very glad they're all safe, but it would appear that the entire team also experienced "pressure issues" on the court last night too. Talk about a nightmare road trip!

[X-band '01]

Yikes - this was almost a year after Duquesne's team got stranded on the Turnpike heading back home during a snowstorm. Glad to hear that the Butler travel party is safe.

[GoMuskies]

I want to quit gambling at some point.

Don't

[Masterofreality]

Yikes - this was almost a year after Duquesne's team got stranded on the Turnpike heading back home during a snowstorm. Glad to hear that the Butler travel party is safe.

#ThePittsburghVortex is now rivaling #TheBermudaTriangle

[Boro Muskie]

I want to quit gambling at some point. Yikes.

Bet you can't...

[D-West & PO-Z]

Nova has a transfer from Fordham!? What a new life that guy is living.

[MADXSTER]

This Nova Creighton game is reminiscent of the Xavier Nova game of last year

[muskiefan82]

villanova too much in the end

[D-West & PO-Z]

11 seconds ran off there on nova inbound. Time doesnt run after made bucket in 2nd half that late does it????

[BandAid]

Villanova is annoying. You can still be good, just lose every now and again. Damn.

[xubrew]

11 seconds ran off there on nova inbound. Time doesnt run after made bucket in 2nd half that late does it????

If the basket is made with 60 left, it runs. If it is made with 59.9, it does not. By the letter of the law the refs got it right.

[D-West & PO-Z]

If the basket is made with 60 left, it runs. If it is made with 59.9, it does not. By the letter of the law the refs got it right.

Good to know. Thanks

[Masterofreality]

As of 1/1/2017 Villanova and Xavier are 1-2 in the RPI rankings with the Big East #1 in Conference RPI.

That is all......

[Olsingledigit]

As of 1/1/2017 Villanova and Xavier are 1-2 in the RPI rankings with the Big East #1 in Conference RPI.

That is all......

That is enough. Go X! ����❎

[XUFan09]

Kyron Cartwright is currently trying to put Providence on his back but they're trailing Butler. He has 26 points with 10 minutes to go.

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[X-band '01]

Providence has had Butler's number since the Big East, although I have to think that's more of a byproduct of Bryce Cotton and Kris Dunn. They're certainly putting up more of a fight here than at Cintas.

[X-band '01]

Marquette is also off to a nice start at Seton Hall. Besides Nova, the Hall is the only other place in the Big East where Xavier has yet to get roadkill.

[GoMuskies]

Congrats to St. John's on their 2-0 Big East start. Next four are vs. Creighton, @ Xavier, @ Georgetown and vs. Villanova.

Good luck with that Coach Mullin.

[Masterofreality]

St. John's has now won 3 in a row and gaining confidence. Young guys are growing up.

Xavier can't overlook them on Saturday.

Meanwhile DePuke continues to be a Trainwreck....without Amy Schumer.

[X-band '01]

Congrats to St. John's on their 2-0 Big East start. Next four are vs. Creighton, @ Xavier, @ Georgetown and vs. Villanova.

Good luck with that Coach Mullin.

Georgetown is also 0-2 in the Big East. That might be winnable for the Johnnies.

[bleedXblue]

Congrats to St. John's on their 2-0 Big East start. Next four are vs. Creighton, @ Xavier, @ Georgetown and vs. Villanova.

Good luck with that Coach Mullin.

Jonnies have some good young talent and they can shoot.

[XUFan09]

Jonnies have some good young talent and they can shoot.
Yeah, watching the game, they were so good at points. At other points, they were so bad. Who knows which one will show up?

Darien Williams is the only senior, though, and I think they have a good class coming in, so they will be good next year if Mullins is at least a mediocre coach.

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[XUFan09]

Holy shit, the last minute of that Marquette-Seton Hall game was crazy!

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[Masterofreality]

Marquette losing that game is on Wojo.

Sure his players blew lay ups and slam dunks plus couldn't box out on Free Throw rebounds, but not calling a t.o when the game was on the line then putting the ball the hands of a 17 year old freshman was lousy leadership.

Bad job outta you , Woj.

[Xuperman]

Yeah, it reminds me of our own CM at crunch time w/ a freshman against the Badgers in the tourney (pardon me but still stings)Fantastic game for sure. SHU looks like they have play makers out the wazoo. Either of these teams could win the A-10

[AviatorX]

Yeah, it reminds me of our own CM at crunch time w/ a freshman against the Badgers in the tourney (pardon me but still stings)Fantastic game for sure. SHU looks like they have play makers out the wazoo. Either of these teams could win the A-10

Lol. Not the same at all but ok.

[MuskiePimp23]

Yeah, it reminds me of our own CM at crunch time w/ a freshman against the Badgers in the tourney (pardon me but still stings)Fantastic game for sure. SHU looks like they have play makers out the wazoo. Either of these teams could win the A-10

A redshirt freshman who got fouled and made the basket, but the refs called a BS charge against him. Not the same at all.

[Emp]

GREAT double header tonight. Shootout at Hinkle? Will St Johns continue to be relevant?

[PM Thor]

Lets recap, Butler has 4 clock malfunctions where the clock didn't stop after made baskets in the last 2 minutes of the Villanova game. Their "fans" chanted "JayWrightSucks", which everyone in the world knows is complete BS, and then they rushed the court after beating a team they faced 3 times in the last year, even considering that they were ranked. No ranked team should ever rush the court after beating a team. Ever.

This is Butler. This is who they are.

[Xuperman]

I didn't see the game but will assume the refs stopped the action and corrected the clock malfunctions. Looking at the box score VU had a rare off night ticklin' the twine and their bench is thin. I could see them getting tripped up a few more times, especially on the road. X matches up well with them and our bench should be a factor, even more so when MD returns but unfortunately their "big 3" is better than ours. In the CU game freshman big Marcus Patton opened up a can on the Johnnies. I could see him giving us fits also and their bench is very deep. They are impressive and can beat you a lot of different ways but hey, X is up 1 in the loss column on both of them......::ok: