Hate Images on Campus

[Muskie]

I just noticed a tweet from the University which is attached? Anybody have any clue what's going on?

http://www.xavierhoops.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2103&stc=1

[GoMuskies]

Someone must have written "Trump for President!" in chalk on the sidewalk.

[fellahmuskie]

A Xavier student posted a picture of herself in black face yesterday on social media with the caption "who needs white when black lives matter"

[Muskie]

A Xavier student posted a picture of herself in black face yesterday on social media with the caption "who needs white when black lives matter"

Wow...

[GoMuskies]

A Xavier student posted a picture of herself in black face yesterday on social media with the caption "who needs white when black lives matter"

That doesn't even make sense.

[muskiefan82]

Reflection Sessions is 3..........2...........1..............

This seems like one person being stupid. Not a "climate" issue. I have seen the picture. Just stupidity on a base level, but doesn't seem to be campus wide racism.

[Xaveriana]

It would be out of character for Xavier to overreact and treat the actions of one or a few as a campus-wide issue.

[muskiefan82]

It would be out of character for Xavier to overreact and treat the actions of one or a few as a campus-wide issue.

In full sarcasm font. Well said

[X-man]

A Xavier student posted a picture of herself in black face yesterday on social media with the caption "who needs white when black lives matter"
I'm hoping that the perpetrator is not actually a Xavier student, but I'm afraid that she is. I've seen the picture, and it is bizarre.

[XUMIOH12]

there was also a skeleton wearing a dashiki being hung in a window, next to a trump sign

[muskiefan82]

I saw the blackface picture (not hard to find) and it's just stupid. The dashiki thing is just as stupid and makes even less sense.

As for them being "pervasive" or a "campus climate" issue, I would expect the X administration to treat them very, very harshly. They are isolated incidents, but you have to react to make sure they stay that way. You have to nip this stuff in the bud and state that it is unacceptable and against Xaviers code of ethics.

Agreed. It's not okay and needs to be dealt with, but I don't think this is indicative of anything bigger than somebody being stupid.

[Caf]

Is there any discipline precedent for the social media post? Obviously a stupid picture, but can a student really be reprimanded for what they send to their friends on snapchat?

[xubrew]

A Xavier student posted a picture of herself in black face yesterday on social media with the caption "who needs white when black lives matter"

I don't understand the statement. I'm not saying it isn't offensive. I'm simply saying that I don't entirely understand what she means or what she is referencing. I know what Black Lives Matter is. But..."who needs white" Is this an inside joke of hers, or have I been living under a rock and this is specifically referencing something that's obvious and that I'm just not getting.

[fellahmuskie]

I don't understand the statement. I'm not saying it isn't offensive. I'm simply saying that I don't entirely understand what she means or what she is referencing. I know what Black Lives Matter is. But..."who needs white" Is this an inside joke of hers, or have I been living under a rock and this is specifically referencing something that's obvious and that I'm just not getting.

I really don't get it either. Not sure anyone does.

[xubrew]

Okay, I feel a little better now. Many of my coworkers are black. I asked them what they thought it meant, and they don't have a clue. They just think it's really weird.

[Muskie]

Is there any discipline precedent for the social media post? Obviously a stupid picture, but can a student really be reprimanded for what they send to their friends on snapchat?

I don't have a copy of the student handbook, but I'd be willing to bet the University can and will do something.

[sirthought]

The black face image was a snapshot of a young woman putting on a product that's a mask for clearing blackheads/whiteheads from your pores. The snapchat caption was just a friend being a stupid smartass.

The skeleton was just a halloween decoration. I think the top was a type of clothing lots of college kids have. I don't think they meant it as a racist symbol. Of course, I don't really know, but I doubt they would risk be so open about it.

[BMoreX]

Also pretty dumb of her to literally have "XU" in her snapchat name.

I mean, she certainly shouldn't be posting something like that anyway, but c'mon.

[muskiefan82]

Are you saying there may have been an overreaction before all of the facts were reviewed? THAT NEVER HAPPENS.

[THRILLHOUSE]

The skeleton was just a halloween decoration. I think the top was a type of clothing lots of college kids have. I don't think they meant it as a racist symbol. Of course, I don't really know, but I doubt they would risk be so open about it.

Not the greatest photo quality, but looks like a Dashiki to me.

http://i.imgur.com/5jWDper.jpg

[GoMuskies]

Is putting a Dashiki on a skeleton at Halloween racist? Is it offensive even?

2016 is weird.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Is putting a Dashiki on a skeleton at Halloween racist? Is it offensive even?

2016 is weird.

It might have gone unnoticed if it wasn't next to a Trump flag. But if you have a skeleton hanging wearing a traditional African garment next to a Trump flag, it's gonna make people pause. At the very least I don't get the thought process of "Time to decorate the dorm room for halloween. What should I do? Oh I got it, I'll hang up a skeleton wearing a Dashiki!" But then again, stupid people aren't known for thinking things out.

[GoMuskies]

I don't particularly understand the decorating angle...but I'm still trying to figure out what's offensive about it.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I don't particularly understand the decorating angle...but I'm still trying to figure out what's offensive about it.

I can't tell in the picture, but if they have the skeleton hung up in a noose like knot and wearing traditional African garb, then I can see how people (especially African-Americans) would not approve.

As far as the blackface snapchat goes, yeah she was just using a blackhead removal mask, but someone just needs to teach about the history about blackface and why people would take offense to her snap. (and maybe leave jokes to people who are actually funny, because like others said, her joke doesn't even make any sense.)

[muskiefan82]

I don't particularly understand the decorating angle...but I'm still trying to figure out what's offensive about it.

That's because you are not familiar with the plight of the Dashiki Skeletonites. They are supporting Trump because Hillary wants open borders and they don't want to compete with the Shawl Skeletonians or the Burqa Bones group.

I'm Muskiefan82 and this message means nothing.

[Caf]

I can't tell in the picture, but if they have the skeleton hung up in a noose like knot and wearing traditional African garb, then I can see how people (especially African-Americans) would not approve.

As far as the blackface snapchat goes, yeah she was just using a blackhead removal mask, but someone just needs to teach about the history about blackface and why people would take offense to her snap. (and maybe leave jokes to people who are actually funny, because like others said, her joke doesn't even make any sense.)

I'm really scratching my head about the outrage over this.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I'm really scratching my head about the outrage over this.

Well if people don't know what a blackhead remover mask looks like when it's applied, then at first glance they would think these girls were putting themselves in blackface and making fun of Black people. In reality, the girls probably aren't some awful bigots, just aren't really that funny and need to have a better understanding of why blackface jokes are a no-no.

[bobbiemcgee]

I'm old. Had to google dashiki. Some pretty nice looking shirts. Much ado methinks. Returning to my safe space until 11/9.:whiteflag:

[bobbiemcgee]

Well if people don't know what a blackhead remover....

Racist!

[xu82]

I don't think this was hateful, just ignorant. Still not good, but there's a very big difference.

[Caf]

Would people feel the same way about the skeleton if it wasn't next to a Trump flag?

[GoMuskies]

What dark path is that, exactly? And what, exactly, do you actually find offensive about the dressed up skeleton?

This is bizarre. This thread may need to be merged into the safe space thread.

[gladdenguy]

Mike Sham again. Please go in your hole. I will be rejoicing when he steps down. Guy is a clown.

[GoMuskies]

Yes, you have to explain how it's offensive. It's a skeleton dressed in traditional African clothing...the week of Halloween. Puzzling choice? Sure. Offensive? Not really seeing it.

[Muskie in dayton]

Mike Sham again. Please go in your hole. I will be rejoicing when he steps down. Guy is a clown.

Christ, this again?? Rant about Dez getting screwed over on 5...4...3...2...

[Muskie]

Mike Sham again. Please go in your hole. I will be rejoicing when he steps down. Guy is a clown.

Is he supposed to ignore complaints the University received?


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[GoMuskies]

Is he supposed to ignore complaints the University received?


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He could probably pump the brakes on the hysterics a bit.

[GoMuskies]

Ok, so you don't understand how an African American can see how that it's offensive. The week of Halloween is any easy excuse. Oh it's Halloween, I can be racist and not explain it, since it's Halloween. I ask that you ask African Americans how they feel about it.

What's racist about a skeleton in west African garb? And why can't you explain it to me? Why do we need a black person?

I mean, on April 3rd it would be questionable. But on October 25 skeletons are pretty standard fare.

[94GRAD]

A skeleton hanging from a ceiling, dressed in traditional African garb connotes the days of where African Americans were hung. It's that simple.

A skeleton, by itself, isn't a big deal. But when dressed in a way where people can easily identify who it represents based on their race or religion, that is where it becomes offensive. Would it be ok if they put up a skeleton wearing traditional Jewish clothing, a skeleton with full on Native American clothing, or a Pope dressed skeleton? I'm pretty sure people would not find those Ok either.


What if it was a skeleton in a dayton uniform? :tease:

[xu82]

What if it was a skeleton in a dayton uniform? :tease:

Fortunately, they're not a protected class. Wait, unless mental disability qualifies. It could be a gray area.

[GoMuskies]

A skeleton hanging from a ceiling, dressed in traditional African garb connotes the days of where African Americans were hung. It's that simple.


It does? Why do you think that? Is this skeleton in African garb something that a lot of pepole have done and is well known to be a lynching reminder?

Why would anyone lynch a skeleton anyway? Aren't they already dead?

Not seeing it.

[Muskie]

Are the two images from the same student? I'm not clear on that.


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[GoMuskies]

Meh. Overreacting big time. Oh well.

[GoMuskies]

What concerns? A hanging skeleton?!? Oh, fuck no!

Much ado about nada.

[xu82]

I'd like to think it was unintentional, maybe because the tie dyed Jerry Garcia shirt was in the wash. A regular old tee shirt wouldn't Look like much (unless maybe it was a Browns shirt?). We don't know these kids, but I'm hoping for the best. I just have a hard time thinking there was hate in this act. Maybe ignorance, but not hate. Of course, maybe I'm naive.

[GoMuskies]

Oh, well if he's BLACK man, that changes everything.

[GoMuskies]

Think of it this way, if someone said something about your Catholicism, calling you a Papist or worse, or saying that all Catholics shouldn't be allowed to serve in government because they follow the Pope, how would you react?

I would be yelling at the top of my lungs to shout that crap down.

If someone put a Pope hat on a skeleton hung from their window at Halloween I would think it was funny.

[xu82]

Well, I'm done here.

The words of a black man, a Xavier alum, who says these things are offensive, they mean nothing to you. Ok then.

I think we need to make a distinction between what was intended and how it was taken. If offense was taken (which clearly there was), it does not mean it was intended. That is why I've stated several times I think it was ignorance, not malice. Very different offenses, but both are still offenses. Then, there's the tricky question of if it's reasonable to be offended by something fairly benign that many wouldn't even recognize. It's a shirt on a skeleton at Halloween, not necessarily a statement. I wouldn't have thought anything of it, but I'm no fashion or race expert. Determine what's in their heart before condemning would be my approach. People need to be sensitive, but there IS such a thing as TOO sensitive. IMO

[xu82]

If someone put a Pope hat on a skeleton hung from their window at Halloween I would think it was funny.

Exactly. (And I don't get how I get blocked in the old Rep formula, but there you go with public reps.)

[GoMuskies]

Here's another thing I hate about this: if the skeleton display was deemed offensive, couldn't someone have just knocked on the door and said "Dude, some people think your Halloween display is a bit too close to a lynching. Can you take the Dashiki off it?"

Instead a federal case is being made of it and Weez is off deam. Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if someone gets expelled. Fuck this white club.

[xeus]

Now you are just being obtuse. To quote @C_Weez

Don't look to me for answers, look to a fellow alumnus, an African American, for his perspective. He's pissed. Rightfully so.


Given his body of work on twitter, CJ is not exactly the most reputable source regarding what is and is not appropriate.

[Smails]

Given his body of work on twitter, CJ is not exactly the most reputable source regarding what is and is not appropriate.

Exactly...loved CJ as a player but he literally speaks for no one but himself. I don't think we want to be referencing his twitter feed as some sort of barometer for deeming what's offensive. This is so fucking stupid

[muskiefan82]

This is so fucking stupid

This applies to so much currently.

[Emp]

Way to focus on the skeleton, crew.

Assuming, big if, it's a beauty masque, the caption plus the photo of blackface is racist, period. No need to stretch.

This so enhances the rep of the school and will be used against us in recruiting black students, oh and black student athletes.

Totally embarrassing to me as a Xavier grad.

Not knowing the offensive history of blackface (full disclosure, my racist Irish American grandfather, president of the Holy Name Societyf, did it every year with all the parish priests also in full blackface drag) is not an out. The caption writer is full on mocking BlackLives Matter in full snark. Sad.

[xubrew]

Way to focus on the skeleton, crew.

Assuming, big if, it's a beauty masque, the caption plus the photo of blackface is racist, period. No need to stretch.

This so enhances the rep of the school and will be used against us in recruiting black students, oh and black student athletes.

Totally embarrassing to me as a Xavier grad.

Not knowing the offensive history of blackface (full disclosure, my racist Irish American grandfather, president of the Holy Name Societyf, did it every year with all the parish priests also in full blackface drag) is not an out. The caption writer is full on mocking BlackLives Matter in full snark. Sad.

What does the caption mean??

I'm not looking for an argument. I'm looking for an explanation. I have a friend who is Italian who learned english in Europe, and while in the United States made the comment about how she couldn't stand fags. She meant cigarettes. A simple explanation resulted in her understanding. That's what I'm asking for. I don't understand what the caption even means.

[GoMuskies]

I agree on the caption. I think it was a really poor attempt at humor. But it was such a bad attempt that I'm not even sure what they were trying to say, and many people are clearly assuming the worst.

Also, I'm not clear on whether the person who posted the photo was the one who actually wrote the caption. If not, it really sucks for her, because she didn't do a damn thing wrong other than have a stupid friend, and it's her picture associated with this story.

[Caf]

Way to focus on the skeleton, crew.

Assuming, big if, it's a beauty masque, the caption plus the photo of blackface is racist, period. No need to stretch.

This so enhances the rep of the school and will be used against us in recruiting black students, oh and black student athletes.

Totally embarrassing to me as a Xavier grad.

Not knowing the offensive history of blackface (full disclosure, my racist Irish American grandfather, president of the Holy Name Societyf, did it every year with all the parish priests also in full blackface drag) is not an out. The caption writer is full on mocking BlackLives Matter in full snark. Sad.

It's definitely embarrassing. I really don't understand the rush to bad mouth an entire University though. I guess Father Graham should have a team to screen social media posts before they're sent.

I have no doubt XU will have a swift and just response to this, but it takes some time.

[fellahmuskie]

What does the caption mean??

I'm not looking for an argument. I'm looking for an explanation. I have a friend who is Italian who learned english in Europe, and while in the United States made the comment about how she couldn't stand fags. She meant cigarettes. A simple explanation resulted in her understanding. That's what I'm asking for. I don't understand what the caption even means.

After thinking about it again last night, I think the joke was that because black lives matter so much now (the BLM movement, media attention, etc.), white people would be better off becoming black.

[Caf]

After thinking about it again last night, I think the joke was that because black lives matter so much now (the BLM movement, media attention, etc.), white people would be better off becoming black.

I think that's it too. The more I look at it, the more racist it seems. I don't deny that it's a blackhead removal mask, but who puts that stuff on their eyebrows and eyelids? And do women apply it with paint brushes?

[BandAid]

I think that's it too. The more I look at it, the more racist it seems. I don't deny that it's a blackhead removal mask, but who puts that stuff on their eyebrows and eyelids? And do women apply it with paint brushes?

Now we're straying into insanely dangerous territory...frequency and application of women's skin treatments :frightened:

[Caf]

Now we're straying into insanely dangerous territory...frequency and application of women's skin treatments :frightened:

Eh, I think you'll find that people put a lot of emphasis on details like this in the next few days.

[Milhouse]

Whatever your feelings on this- I could certainly see this getting some national attention in the coming days

[boozehound]

What a wonderful world we live in, that we have the amount of time and effort to devote to these types of issues. We must truly be out of problems.

I'm so freaking glad I went to college before social media. Everyone I know would have been expelled. It's way too easy to make a big deal out of a stupid mistake now. Although there are some pretty incriminating pictures of me that were taken on some disposable cameras I'm sure...

[ChicagoX]

Whatever your feelings on this- I could certainly see this getting some national attention in the coming days

It already is getting national attention.

NY Daily News: Ohio college campus rocked by racist social media photos involving pro-Donald Trump imagery (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ohio-college-rocked-racist-photos-involving-pro-trump-imagery-article-1.2845112)

[Lamont Sanford]

Fuck this white club.

One of my favorite Drew Lavender quotes of all time! Thanks for the laugh!

[muskiefan82]

If we find out the guy with the skeleton is a black student who had a Halloween decoration up in his room and then threw a dashiki on it because it was the first thing he found to use as clothing, I might lose it. If it was intentional, then it's not okay. The point is this: Does anyone know the facts of all of this? There is a great deal of reporting, but not a great deal of fact based information. And what about the gnome in the window? What does he know and when did he know it?

[GoMuskies]

If we find out the guy with the skeleton is a black student

Black student + Trump flag? I'm just playing the odds here, but I'm thinking probably not.

[muskiefan82]

Agreed, but we don't know yet. Too much jumping the gun every single time. This may be exactly what it appears to be, but everyone is too quick to define what happened before anyone really knows. Crazy times.

[xudash]

Once upon a time it was said that "all PR is good PR."

Would someone please take down that adage. The 21st Century killed it.

[xubrew]

I don't know why, but I didn't scroll up to look at the picture until now. Had you showed me this without any context at all, my first thought would have been MEGADETH. It looks like their cartoon insignia skeleton which often wore a suit or a robe, which is kind of what it looks like in the darkened shadows. If you were to show me this on a flashcard and ask me to name the first thing that came into my mind, Megadeth would have been my answer. Just sayin...


Not the greatest photo quality, but looks like a Dashiki to me.

http://i.imgur.com/5jWDper.jpg

[xubrew]

https://www.google.com/search?q=megadeth+skeleton&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS706US706&espv=2&biw=1269&bih=889&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5kp-g9vjPAhWBeyYKHeWKBrcQsAQIKA

[xubrew]

If someone put a Pope hat on a skeleton hung from their window at Halloween I would think it was funny.

Dead Guy Ale??

Again, I don't think racism or bigotry. I think heavy metal and beer. They say your experiences reflect your interpretations of things. I guess that's true.

[rickf]

Who is she? Someone should know. Could it be a setup?

[ammtd34]

This band (https://www.google.com/search?q=ghost+bc&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1019&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitp_-6jfnPAhVK8CYKHaopCDAQ_AUIBigB) played at Lollapalooza a few years ago.

[ReturnOfTheMack]

Black student + Trump flag? I'm just playing the odds here, but I'm thinking probably not.

One of my good friend's younger brother is a current student at X and based on what he has told his brother, the student with the skeleton display is in fact black. Take that for what it's worth but I have no reason not to believe him.

Also, and this is purely anecdotal evidence to corroborate, but if you look at some of the replies by students to Father Graham's initial tweet it would seem to support the claim that the display was by that of a black student.

[xeus]

Starting to look like Fr. Graham jumped the gun on this one.

[ReturnOfTheMack]

Starting to look like Fr. Graham jumped the gun on this one.

In the indomitable words of Yogi Berra, "It's deja vu all over again!".

[kyxu]

Starting to look like Fr. Graham jumped the gun on this one.

Well, a chunk of the student body seemed to agree with him, as they came out in silent protest today.

https://www.facebook.com/kristenswilleynews/videos/1090697091049320/?comment_id=1090735414378821&ref=notif&notif_t=like&notif_id=1477502832766557&hc_location=ufi

[gladdenguy]

Christ, this again?? Rant about Dez getting screwed over on 5...4...3...2...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. U mad pal?


Is he supposed to ignore complaints the University received?


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Yes that would have been an intelligent move. Instead, Mike Sham looks like a baffoon once again.

[SemajParlor]

They say your experiences reflect your interpretations of things. I guess that's true.

This.

[SemajParlor]

I mean, it's obviously a bad attempt at humor. Xavier Admin shouldn't be blamed for this.

I think she meant to write "Who needs to be white when Black Lives Matter?" Stupid and bad joke, really not that complicated though.

[GoMuskies]

I mean, it's obviously a bad attempt at humor. Xavier Admin shouldn't be blamed for this.


If it's obviously a bad attempt at humor, and the Xavier administration immediately comes out with a statement that they are "OUTRAGED!!!!!" they shouldn't be blamed for overreacting?

[MCXU]

OK, let me lay out below what is known/speculated at this time. Feel free to correct or add context.

1. Sundayish or Mondayish perhaps Tuesdayish, at least two female Xavier students where applying charcoal beauty masks while in the dorms. (We will call them Student A and Student B).

2. Someone using MEL XU's Snapchat took a picture, and added a racist caption to it. We don't know if MEL XU is Student A, Student B or an unidentified Student C. For that matter we don't know if a picture was taken by student C sent to unidentified Random Person A who later added a racist caption.

3.) Additionally, while all this was taking place someone took a picture of a skeleton in a window. Who took a picture of the skeleton? Was it Student A, B or C??? Could it have been randon Person A or even X?

4.) Do we know when Skeleton went up? Do we know skeleton was lynched, I cant see a rope or even string in the picture. Do we know the skeleton is wearing a daishiki? it kinda looks like a hawaiin shirt to me.

5.) Is the owner of hawaiian shirt skeleton a Trump fan or does he have a roommate who is a Trump Fan?

All of this was then collected and fired off into social media.

Then Father Graham wrote a letter.

Then a bunch of students stood in solidarity.

Is the above correct? Please add context if known.

[Caf]

https://twitter.com/XUBSA/status/791348271889444866

I'm pleasantly surprised by the statement from the XU Black Student Assoc.

[Muskie]

XU admin is damned if they do and damned if they don't. Judging by what I've seen on social media many people have found this offensive and the University's response appropriate. There are obviously those who think it's no big deal and thus the University has overreacted. To me, I don't mind a statement saying racism or hate speech won't be tolerated.

[GoMuskies]

I don't mind a statement saying racism or hate speech won't be tolerated.

Me, either. But that's not all he said. He said he was outraged. Not that he WOULD be outraged if it turned out that Xavier students had done hateful things. No, that he already WAS outraged.

Pump the brakes on occasion there big fella.

[SemajParlor]

If it's obviously a bad attempt at humor, and the Xavier administration immediately comes out with a statement that they are "OUTRAGED!!!!!" they shouldn't be blamed for overreacting?

Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the X Administration should not be held responsible for fostering a climate of racism because of 1 student. If you want to talk about them overreacting that's a different issue.

[GoMuskies]

Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the X Administration should not be held responsible for fostering a climate of racism because of 1 student. If you want to talk about them overreacting that's a different issue.

Gotcha and agree. I think the concern about being blamed for fostering a climate of racism is why they're so quick to throw Xavier students under the bus before actually figuring out if they belong down there in the wheel well.

[Juice]

I consider myself fairly sensitive to issues like this but I find the outrage towards the two girls to be a bit much. They made an attempt at humor while cleaning their faces with a substance with an unfortunate color considering this country's history with black face. They made a joke about it which wasn't that offensive but also wasn't that funny. If they were Louis CK or Kevin Hart it would be laughed off with no issues, but since they are college kids on a campus everyone flips out.

As far as the skeleton goes, that's probably a tad racist but most likely just really, really dumb.

It seems like the school had to act they're pissed off so it didn't look like they were holding Klan meetings.

[XU 87]

Maybe the one dorm room doesn't like hippies:

https://jet.com/product/detail/0af74609d846450b89ea85e71530625a?jcmp=pla:bng:all_ products_njd:njd_catch_all:na:PLA_112594582_437258 6961_kwd-4579122332323962:na:na:na:2&code=PLA15&gclid=CJjBq7PP-c8CFUx5gQod4d8Kbw&gclsrc=ds

[Strange Brew]

Maybe the one dorm room doesn't like hippies:

https://jet.com/product/detail/0af74609d846450b89ea85e71530625a?jcmp=pla:bng:all_ products_njd:njd_catch_all:na:PLA_112594582_437258 6961_kwd-4579122332323962:na:na:na:2&code=PLA15&gclid=CJjBq7PP-c8CFUx5gQod4d8Kbw&gclsrc=ds

Could be Dead Heads....

[GuyFawkes38]

Yeah, this all feels overblown. A lot of stupid stuff is done on Snapchat. I think people genuinely forget the exposure risks involved on this supposedly "private" platform. The picture was definitely never intended for a mass audience.

[SemajParlor]

Could be Dead Heads....

.... Dead Heads, you say?

[Xpectations]

One of my good friend's younger brother is a current student at X and based on what he has told his brother, the student with the skeleton display is in fact black. Take that for what it's worth but I have no reason not to believe him.

Also, and this is purely anecdotal evidence to corroborate, but if you look at some of the replies by students to Father Graham's initial tweet it would seem to support the claim that the display was by that of a black student.

Just saw the photo of the skeleton before coming here.

When I saw the photo, my first thought was that someone was making a negative political statement regarding a potential Trump Presidency. I wasn't thinking it was expressing hatred toward African Americans, though I can now see why some people may have inferred that.

That's always the problem with words, images or symbols. You're often not sure what the intended message was meant to be.

[GoMuskies]

If this is the case, I will hold my breath waiting for CJ Anderson to apologize for his idiotic tweets.

[GoMuskies]

I notice that at some point PMThor decided to erase the evidence of his participation in this thread. That's kind of amusing.

[muskiefan82]

I notice that at some point PMThor decided to erase the evidence of his participation in this thread. That's kind of amusing.

That doesn't work when you've had your post quoted in the thread.

[Strange Brew]

.... Dead Heads, you say?

I see you've got your list out
Say your peace and get out
Yes, I get the gist of it....

[SemajParlor]

I see you've got your list out
Say your peace and get out
Yes, I get the gist of it....

Oh well a Touch Of Grey
Kind of suits you anyway
That was all I had to say
It's all riiiiggght

[Strange Brew]

Oh well a Touch Of Grey
Kind of suits you anyway
That was all I had to say
It's all riiiiggght

:)