Myles Suspended Indefinitely

[mistabeecee41]

Per Shannon on Twitter. Myles tweeted some depressing stuff earlier.

[LA Muskie]

Pretty strong words from Mack as well.

[MauriceX]

Well... crap.

[xu82]

Well... crap.

To put it mildly. No idea what Mack had to say, but hoping it wasn't TOO bad and can be cleared up before too long.


Right?

[GoMuskies]

Well, that is not good.

[Caveat]

Very unfortunate all around.

I don't know how much we'll ever know of the story, but I hope he gets himself together personally -- regardless of whether or not he comes back to the team and the court.

[X-Fan]

Ugh, I had such high hopes for him after his Sophomore year. Good grief.

[paulxu]

For some reason I thought (impression from watching him play basketball only) that he had his act together.
Don't know particulars other than news releases. But I'd love to go through one offseason without one of these things.

[RealDeal]

Well that's bag over the head punch in the face kind of news.

[Jehoya]

Well that's bag over the head punch in the face kind of news.



More like punch in the nuts...

[vee4xu]

More like punch in the nuts...

What if one is a woman? ��

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Of all people.....I never expect this to happen to Myles. History has shown us that woman can often cause a man's downfall. I hope Myles can ride this out with minimal damage. Fingers crossed.

[Jehoya]

What if one is a woman? ��



Boob punch I guess lol

[LadyMuskie]

Of all people.....I never expect this to happen to Myles. History has shown us that woman can often cause a man's downfall. I hope Myles can ride this out with minimal damage. Fingers crossed.

Yeah. . .it's the woman who's responsible for his downfall because as an adult male he's not responsible for his actions. :blink:

[bobbiemcgee]

Jalen's indefinite suspension lasted 2 games, but don't see that in the cards. Q may get a lot of time, which isn't a bad thing, I guess.

[X Factor]

Yeah. . .it's the woman who's responsible for his downfall because as an adult male he's not responsible for his actions. :blink:

Exactly. Myles has serious issues if what's being reported is true. He needs to get his shit together or he's going to ruin a lot more than his senior year of college basketball. Unbelievable.

[sgarcia]

FWIW, bottom line just said he may not return to the program. Hope that is not the case.

[Cheesehead]

So I happen to be at Delicio tonight and saw coach Pegues and Myles and Rashid. I did not see any other players. Pegues was talking to Myles by themselves for a long time and afterwards Myles was in a corner outside with a baseball hat pulled over his head watching TV by himself. His body language indicated a dejected state.

I hope he can get this matter resolved and return to the team but it's example on how everyone must be accountable for their behavior/actions. It's very unfortunate and could be a serious blow to this season.

[xudash]

FWIW, bottom line just said he may not return to the program. Hope that is not the case.

Well, it is ESPN.

We can only hope he finds a path through all this. At least he has the time to do so.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Myles may have problem in controlling his temper, esp. after a heated argument, but the whole incident did involve a woman. It's not a judgement of who is right or wrong, just a statement of fact.

[XUMIOH12]

Well, it is ESPN.

We can only hope he finds a path through all this. At least he has the time to do so.

i think that was just ESPN reading in to the quote out there and making what they want with it.

[XU-PA]

Perhaps I'm overly hopeful, but Coach Macks comments make it sound like there's a way back in for Myles.
http://local12.com/sports/xu-musketeers/xavier-suspends-guard-myles-davis-indefinitely

[XUMIOH12]

indefinite suspension can really mean anything. I'd be surprised if he wasn't back early in the season, maybe before.

[XUMIOH12]

Perhaps I'm overly hopeful, but Coach Macks comments make it sound like there's a way back in for Myles.
http://local12.com/sports/xu-musketeers/xavier-suspends-guard-myles-davis-indefinitely

agreed. sounds like Mack realized that Myles needed a major threat/punishment in order to get himself in line with his situation he has going on.

[Cheesehead]

Perhaps I'm overly hopeful, but Coach Macks comments make it sound like there's a way back in for Myles.
http://local12.com/sports/xu-musketeers/xavier-suspends-guard-myles-davis-indefinitely

I would agree with this. Mack by doing it this way also covers his own ass. I do think Myles gets legal matters resolved and serves some type of suspension at beginning of the season. I recall Jalen was also suspended indefinitely and he ended up serving a 2 game suspension. I am not condoning his behavior but these are relatively minor charges.

[XUFan09]

Myles may have problem in controlling his temper, esp. after a heated argument, but the whole incident did involve a woman. It's not a judgement of who is right or wrong, just a statement of fact.
*eyeroll*

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[GIMMFD]

I would agree with this. Mack by doing it this way also covers his own ass. I do think Myles gets legal matters resolved and serves some type of suspension at beginning of the season. I recall Jalen was also suspended indefinitely and he ended up serving a 2 game suspension. I am not condoning his behavior but these are relatively minor charges.

This, the University can't look "weak" on a domestic violence case, especially after the shit storm that was Baylor a few months ago. I think it's just a strong arm move until these legal matters get resolved and we'll see Myles at some point this season. If not, next man up. We have figured it out in the past and will figure it out again.

[LadyMuskie]

Myles may have problem in controlling his temper, esp. after a heated argument, but the whole incident did involve a woman. It's not a judgement of who is right or wrong, just a statement of fact.

So, by this thought process we can say the dog caused Dedrick Finn's downfall.

As a woman, myself, who has yet to cause anyone's downfall (I'm an underachiever), it's good to know dogs are on our side.

[Xaveriana]

Many knew about these incidents a month or so ago. Why is he just getting charged now? Seems like he should have been charged at the same time. Odd to me that we now have a 2nd charge for something that happened early July. If I knew about it, I'd assume police/prosecutors knew. We are talking about cell phones and a car dent. Conspiracy...this is getting grossly over-blown. Just not sure why.

[xu82]

So, by this thought process we can say the dog caused Dedrick Finn's downfall.

As a woman, myself, who has yet to cause anyone's downfall (I'm an underachiever), it's good to know dogs are on our side.

That's funny, I'm sure you're working on it! :-)

[bleedXblue]

My take is that the University had to send a message (and they should) and Myles has to respond over the next couple of months with a genuine desire to make things right and learn a very valuable lesson through all of this. I would be surprised if he isn't reinstated and playing his senior year.

[Xville]

By now, there must be enough there to warrant the school doing this, at least I hope so. It that is the case, myles has a ton of work to do, and he is the one who brought this upon himself. Good move by Mack.

[X-band '01]

Many knew about these incidents a month or so ago. Why is he just getting charged now? Seems like he should have been charged at the same time. Odd to me that we now have a 2nd charge for something that happened early July. If I knew about it, I'd assume police/prosecutors knew. We are talking about cell phones and a car dent. Conspiracy...this is getting grossly over-blown. Just not sure why.

Probably because there's now indisputable evidence that Myles has, at a minimum, damaged his ex-girlfriend's property.

Just because posters WANT this to appear overblown doesn't mean that it is.

[LadyMuskie]

That's funny, I'm sure you're working on it! :-)

I do have a lot of evil plans, but so little time. It's very frustrating as I'm sure you can imagine.

[OH.X.MI]

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but Myles hasn't actually been convicted of anything, correct? Maybe he did what the girl says, maybe he didn't. In all likelihood, there's more to the story than any of us know.

That's the problem with University administrative "justice." There is no accountability from the University. Look we all saw what happened with Dez, and we are well aware of the Duke lacrosse incident. Myles may very well deserve a suspension or even more, but at this point it all seems like mere allegations to me. I take great issue with the one sidedness of Xavier's (and other Universities) process in these kinds of matters. And Xavier certainly does not have history of handling these matters responsibly.

[OH.X.MI]

Probably because there's now indisputable evidence that Myles has, at a minimum, damaged his ex-girlfriend's property.

Just because posters WANT this to appear overblown doesn't mean that it is.

Is it? It's my understanding that he's denying the charges. Guess we just take accusations as the word of god these days? Because surely in the history of the world an ex-partner has never tried to get back at someone.

[XUFan09]

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but Myles hasn't actually been convicted of anything, correct? Maybe he did what the girl says, maybe he didn't. In all likelihood, there's more to the story than any of us know.

That's the problem with University administrative "justice." There is no accountability from the University. Look we all saw what happened with Dez, and we are well aware of the Duke lacrosse incident. Myles may very well deserve a suspension or even more, but at this point it all seems like mere allegations to me. I take great issue with the one sidedness of Xavier's (and other Universities) process in these kinds of matters. And Xavier certainly does not have history of handling these matters responsibly.
Mack instituted the suspension, not Xavier.

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[AviatorX]

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but Myles hasn't actually been convicted of anything, correct? Maybe he did what the girl says, maybe he didn't. In all likelihood, there's more to the story than any of us know.

That's the problem with University administrative "justice." There is no accountability from the University. Look we all saw what happened with Dez, and we are well aware of the Duke lacrosse incident. Myles may very well deserve a suspension or even more, but at this point it all seems like mere allegations to me. I take great issue with the one sidedness of Xavier's (and other Universities) process in these kinds of matters. And Xavier certainly does not have history of handling these matters responsibly.

Myles is obviously not handling the situation well/something else happened if Mack decided to pull the trigger on the suspension. Doesn't seem likely that Mack all of the sudden woke up yesterday and decided to issue the suspension for the allegations we've known about for a few weeks now. You don't have to be proven guilty anywhere to "not meet the expectations of XU basketball."

[nuts4xu]

Many knew about these incidents a month or so ago. Why is he just getting charged now?

He was charged for 2 incidents weeks ago, but was just suspended "indefinitely" this week. It seems a bit odd that Mack would wait to suspend him, unless they were still gathering information. Or with school starting, maybe he violated the "no contact" order and contacted the broad somehow.

In addition to the suspension, Coach Mack (or his parents) should ground him from his phone. He obviously does not like cell phones, based on his actions this summer...and his tweets yesterday were alarming.

[OH.X.MI]

Mack instituted the suspension, not Xavier.

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I'm sure good 'ole Fr. Graham just sat back and let Mack make the decision.

[AviatorX]

I'm sure good 'ole Fr. Graham just sat back and let Mack make the decision.

Were you worried about this when Frease or Reynolds were suspended indefinitely with absolutely 0 public legal allegations against them? No, because you probably assumed they did something worthy of the punishment. It's Mack's program, he kinda gets to decide these things, and it sure doesn't seem like he's one to abuse that control.

[casualfan]

He was charged for 2 incidents weeks ago, but was just suspended "indefinitely" this week. It seems a bit odd that Mack would wait to suspend him, unless they were still gathering information. Or with school starting, maybe he violated the "no contact" order and contacted the broad somehow.

In addition to the suspension, Coach Mack (or his parents) should ground him from his phone. He obviously does not like cell phones, based on his actions this summer...and his tweets yesterday were alarming.

What did he tweet? I've seen a few ppl mention this but haven't seen what he actually said.

[nuts4xu]

I'm sure good 'ole Fr. Graham just sat back and let Mack make the decision.

Fr Graham has more important matters to attend to than one student's poor decisions. He is NOT sitting in his throne and handing down suspensions to student athletes, he delegates that stuff to other people. Greg Christopher may have had some input, as the AD, but I highly doubt Fr Graham is directly involved with Myles Davis or his crazy broad.

[LadyMuskie]

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but Myles hasn't actually been convicted of anything, correct? Maybe he did what the girl says, maybe he didn't. In all likelihood, there's more to the story than any of us know.

That's the problem with University administrative "justice." There is no accountability from the University. Look we all saw what happened with Dez, and we are well aware of the Duke lacrosse incident. Myles may very well deserve a suspension or even more, but at this point it all seems like mere allegations to me. I take great issue with the one sidedness of Xavier's (and other Universities) process in these kinds of matters. And Xavier certainly does not have history of handling these matters responsibly.

Didn't part of the incident happen outside of a UDF? If that's correct, there could be video and Mack et al. may have just been made aware of it. Moreover, it's entirely possible the suspension is for a different infraction of team rules. Either way, I trust that Mack didn't make the decisionlightly or without being very well informed.

[SemajParlor]

Fr Graham has more important matters to attend to than one student's poor decisions. He is NOT sitting in his throne and handing down suspensions to student athletes, he delegates that stuff to other people. Greg Christopher may have had some input, as the AD, but I highly doubt Fr Graham is directly involved with Myles Davis or his crazy broad.

You sure about that?

[Xavier]

You sure about that?

Yes.

[OH.X.MI]

You guys are absolutely delusional if you think a university president isn't actively involved when a high-profile student athlete is accused of domestic violence. Especially when another student is involved. Maybe some of you don't read the news, but I'm sure Fr. Graham is well aware of events going on at other universities and would like very much to ensure Xavier isn't in a similar predicament.

[NY44]

Yes.

I don't disagree with the suspension, but come on. The basketball team is the most visible part of the University, besides the God damn pizza ATM. If it gets a black eye, so does the University. I'm sure he always has his thumb on it.

[Muskie]

If the implication is that this is Fr. Graham's work and not Chris Mack's (which I know some on this board believe), were you outraged when Dedrick Finn was dismissed from the team in February 2006? Was that a Miller call or a an Administration call?

[SemajParlor]

I don't believe that the Admin is directly making personnel calls like they're George Steinbrenner. I do believe that thinking there isn't any sort of communication and pressure on Mack from people outside of the Athletic department during these situations might be naive.

[XUFan09]

I don't believe that the Admin is directly making personnel calls like they're George Steinbrenner. I do believe that thinking there isn't any sort of communication and pressure on Mack from people outside of the Athletic department during these situations might be naive.
Yeah, I doubt there is a complete separation, but things like this are generally handled by coaches. Just read Mack's comments and try to tell me that the decision came from someone other than him. Mack doesn't have to say all that but he has a history of using the media to make a point to a player.

It's cute how since something bad went down 4 years ago with a player, some people's knee-jerk reaction is to blame the administration even now. Occam's Razor: Myles screwed up.

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[xu82]

I don't disagree with the suspension, but come on. The basketball team is the most visible part of the University, besides the God damn pizza ATM. If it gets a black eye, so does the University. I'm sure he always has his thumb on it.

A current student told me a few weeks ago the Pizza ATM doesn't even work! Where is the outrage?

[xu82]

What did he tweet? I've seen a few ppl mention this but haven't seen what he actually said.

I'm with you on this. No idea what he tweeted, but the timing is curious and it might be quite relevant... Anyone?

[XMuskieFTW]

I'm with you on this. No idea what he tweeted, but the timing is curious and it might be quite relevant... Anyone?

He tweeted 6 or 7 things and deleted half or so of them. Just stuff along the lines of it being over(probably an overreaction) and how he didn't think things could get worse. "One day it will all be okay". Just tweets being upset basically. Nothing horrible.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Trust in Mack guys, just the charges alone show Myles was going down a negative path. I am sure this was Mack's way of forcing him to either right the ship or get out. This is Myles' 5th year (including the red-shirt), he needs to shape up and finish out strong.

[Caveat]

Yeah. . .it's the woman who's responsible for his downfall because as an adult male he's not responsible for his actions. :blink:

It was inartfully phrased -- but I think the meaning is that this is a relationship issue that has revealed, perhaps, deeper issues for Davis.

And I kinda get that. A much younger Caveat once believed that the world was over and that he'd never be happy again when he got that "let's just be friends" talk from his college girlfriend. Stuff seems so much more important when you're young and it certainly brings out stronger emotions.

His fault to be sure, but I get the idea that issues involving the opposite sex tend to provoke emotional responses.

[gladdenguy]

Per some people Myles violated a no contact order which is absolutely stupid. Nobody's fault other than Myles. Maybe by tweeting yesterday he knew he was an idiot. Dude should put all phones down gently, quietly and walk away.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Per some people Myles violated a no contact order which is absolutely stupid.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/37/375927cf2313d425dad27a65550f466aa517c7184675511ab7 2d20215fef4cdd.jpg

[LadyMuskie]

Per some people Myles violated a no contact order which is absolutely stupid. Nobody's fault other than Myles. Maybe by tweeting yesterday he knew he was an idiot. Dude should put all phones down gently, quietly and walk away.

I sincerely hope that's not true because it not only makes it sound like he has a short fuse and bad temper but also that he's a giant idiot to boot. Good God. Move on, man. Lots more fish in the sea.

[Xville]

I sincerely hope that's not true because it not only makes it sound like he has a short fuse and bad temper but also that he's a giant idiot to boot. Good God. Move on, man. Lots more fish in the sea.

It's funny how small things like breaking up with a girlfriend seem so huge when in high school or college. If I could tell my 16 year old self now, I'd say trust me, it's not big deal...life goes on...I'm sure myles will realize that one day, or at least I hope so.

[LadyMuskie]

It's funny how small things like breaking up with a girlfriend seem so huge when in high school or college. If I could tell my 16 year old self now, I'd say trust me, it's not big deal...life goes on...I'm sure myles will realize that one day, or at least I hope so.

I agree that heartbreak is hard for us all. Being a teenager and dealing with the fact that someone doesn't feel about you the way you feel about them can be excruciating. Except Myles isn't 16. He's 22 or 23. I'm not saying he's a relationship guru, but to put it in perspective the hubby and I were married at 22 and a lot of our friends were engaged and/or getting married right after us and some were married before us at 20 and 21. He's not a kid. He's an adult who in less than a year is expected to join the "real world" and contribute even more fully to society. By 22/23 you know, or should know, the difference between right and wrong and acceptable behavior and unacceptable behavior. I find it really hard to believe that this is his first breakup.

[muskiefan82]

I agree that heartbreak is hard for us all. Being a teenager and dealing with the fact that someone doesn't feel about you the way you feel about them can be excruciating. Except Myles isn't 16. He's 22 or 23. I'm not saying he's a relationship guru, but to put it in perspective the hubby and I were married at 22 and a lot of our friends were engaged and/or getting married right after us and some were married before us at 20 and 21. He's not a kid. He's an adult who in less than a year is expected to join the "real world" and contribute even more fully to society. By 22/23 you know, or should know, the difference between right and wrong and acceptable behavior and unacceptable behavior. I find it really hard to believe that this is his first breakup.

Agreed, but it's a brave, new world out there and these newly minted "adults" don't seem to have the same limits that were considered normal behavior for us. Acting like the world is a reality show and doing stupid things is acceptable seems to be more and more of a norm for the younger crowd. The problem is that the law hasn't changed to accept stupidity yet.

[XUFan09]

Agreed, but it's a brave, new world out there and these newly minted "adults" don't seem to have the same limits that were considered normal behavior for us. Acting like the world is a reality show and doing stupid things is acceptable seems to be more and more of a norm for the younger crowd. The problem is that the law hasn't changed to accept stupidity yet.

Lol yeah, because no older adults ever make an ass of themselves.

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[SemajParlor]

Lol yeah, because no older adults ever make an ass of themselves.

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Laugh out loud funny moment reading that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYAuR5bkIlQ

[muskiefan82]

Lol yeah, because no older adults ever make an ass of themselves.

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They do. The difference is that they ARE making an ass of themselves. The new generation doesn't think they are doing anything unusual because they seem to think the behavior is acceptable now. Crazy stuff.

[XUFan09]

They do. The difference is that they ARE making an ass of themselves. The new generation doesn't think they are doing anything unusual because they seem to think the behavior is acceptable now. Crazy stuff.
Yeeeeeeeah...Your false assertion just makes SemajParlor's video link even more appropriate.

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[LA Muskie]

The homerism on this site is really absurd. Myles f$&@ed up bigtime. Accept it.


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[Xville]

The homerism on this site is really absurd. Myles f$&@ed up bigtime. Accept it.


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Yeah sure seems like myles screwed up big time on this one. This doesn't seem to be a Dez situation where the school acted too quickly and made some very poor decisions. If all of this did in fact occur with myles, I wonder if mack would want him back. I know people make.mistakes and people deserve second chances, but on the other hand, sometimes you also really need to be taught a lesson and there are consequences in life. Tough call.

[XUFan09]

The homerism on this site is really absurd. Myles f$&@ed up bigtime. Accept it.


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Sums it up nicely.

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[muskiefan82]

This is true. I completely agree. There is no excuse for the behavior. It's wrong even if you think it's not. Stupid too.

[Emp]

They do. The difference is that they ARE making an ass of themselves. The new generation doesn't think they are doing anything unusual because they seem to think the behavior is acceptable now. Crazy stuff.

But then there are the 3 AM political rants posted by adults on this board. Wing nut chat board emperors with no clothes and no clues.

[paulxu]

Just weeks after a judge granted his ex-girlfriend's request for a protective order against him, Xavier standout Myles Davis has been suspended indefinitely and he may not return to the program, the school announced Thursday night

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/17444625/xavier-musketeers-guard-myles-davis-suspended-indefinitely

Did the "school" announce he "may not return to the program?" Or is that just less than accurate phrasing by the writer?

[LA Muskie]

The article separately quoted the press release verbatim. In light of circumstances, "he may not return" isn't a huge stretch. But at the same time, it's probably not the most likely scenario.


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[OTRMUSKIE]

I never condone cellphone throwing but come on if this is all he did he shouldn't be kicked off the team. There has to be more to the story. http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2016/5/9/giphy_1.gif

[Juice]

I never condone cellphone throwing but come on if this is all he did he shouldn't be kicked off the team. There has to be more to the story. http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2016/5/9/giphy_1.gif

Well it's 2 cell phones, a protection order, and rumors of a lot more (of which it's not appropriate for me to add anything else). I actually find it to be a fair action based on what has occurred/been alleged.

You can see why it's different based on how Mack has handled the JP situation compared to this one. JP's charge of OOB is the exact same level of offense as Myles' charges of criminal damaging but the facts surrounding them couldn't by any more different. And that's reflected in how Mack has handled it.

[paulxu]

But I'd love to go through one offseason without one of these things.

Bump.

[Xville]

My expectations for this season have sure diminished since April. Personally, I think those top 10-15 preseason rankings were a bit premature.

[Harryfe]

Does anyone know if he is attending classes?

[XUFan09]

My expectations for this season have sure diminished since April. Personally, I think those top 10-15 preseason rankings were a bit premature.
Why? I get it if Myles never comes back, but otherwise I don't see notable issues. If you are referencing Makinde transferring or Ekiyor staying in Canada, you are talking about a few bench minutes that are easily absorbed.

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[XUFan09]

Does anyone know if he is attending classes?
I'm sure we would know it if he wasn't by this point.

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[GIMMFD]

Why? I get it if Myles never comes back, but otherwise I don't see notable issues. If you are referencing Makinde transferring or Ekiyor staying in Canada, you are talking about a few bench minutes that are easily absorbed.

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This. Ekinyor and Makinde suck, but they aren't detrimental to the program. If Myles is dismissed, then it's a problem because we really need his calming presence on the court. Man, off-seasons suck.

[Xville]

Why? I get it if Myles never comes back, but otherwise I don't see notable issues. If you are referencing Makinde transferring or Ekiyor staying in Canada, you are talking about a few bench minutes that are easily absorbed.

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I think the front court is pretty unknown at this point as far as valuable minutes is concerned. If there were more bodies, the cream would have rose to the top, now we really have to rely on Omara, Gaston, and/or gates making a pretty significant jump. I just mean there is less margin for error now.

Also, if Myles is gone, that means we either have a freshman playing significant minutes, or jp playing a position that he isn't best suited for.

Then again, I will say that I am pretty critical of my own teams so maybe there is nothing to worry about.

[bleedXblue]

Why? I get it if Myles never comes back, but otherwise I don't see notable issues. If you are referencing Makinde transferring or Ekiyor staying in Canada, you are talking about a few bench minutes that are easily absorbed.

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Ekiyor was here and attended classes at X last year. He didn't "stay" in Canada.

[XUFan09]

I think the front court is pretty unknown at this point as far as valuable minutes is concerned. If there were more bodies, the cream would have rose to the top, now we really have to rely on Omara, Gaston, and/or gates making a pretty significant jump. I just mean there is less margin for error now.

Also, if Myles is gone, that means we either have a freshman playing significant minutes, or jp playing a position that he isn't best suited for.

Then again, I will say that I am pretty critical of my own teams so maybe there is nothing to worry about.
O'Mara was already the best post scorer last season, so I'm not worried if he's starting at the 5. Gaston should at least be good enough to back him up, but if he is good enough to start over him, even better. Gates has proven that at minimum he can defend really well and has some semblance of an offensive game. Any more than that is just gravy.

Keep in mind that we aren't playing traditional two-big lineups (and neither is most of the Big East). Now, if Myles is gone, that does change things, but again, that is only a possibility and that really is the only thing that would have a notable impact on the team.

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[XUFan09]

Ekiyor was here and attended classes at X last year. He didn't "stay" in Canada.
I am aware of that. He was in Canada this summer; hence, the "staying" in Canada. He didn't come back.

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[X-band '01]

This. Ekinyor and Makinde suck, but they aren't detrimental to the program. If Myles is dismissed, then it's a problem because we really need his calming presence on the court. Man, off-seasons suck.

That's a truly ironic statement considering Myles is suspended for his failure to be a calming presence off the floor.

[xeus]

This, the University can't look "weak" on a domestic violence case, especially after the shit storm that was Baylor a few months ago.


You guys are absolutely delusional if you think a university president isn't actively involved when a high-profile student athlete is accused of domestic violence.

Myles Davis has NOT been accused of domestic violence. He has been accused of criminal damaging. Big difference.

[Juice]

Myles Davis has NOT been accused of domestic violence. He has been accused of criminal damaging. Big difference.

On one hand you're absolutely correct which is why I think Myles will eventually be back. But let's not ignore that the reason listed in Kenton County courts for the protection order was Domestic Violence.

[xeus]

On one hand you're absolutely correct which is why I think Myles will eventually be back. But let's not ignore that the reason listed in Kenton County courts for the protection order was Domestic Violence.

I'm not able to find any records in Kenton County which substantiate that. But either way, he was never charged with domestic violence.

[Masterofreality]

I'm not able to find any records in Kenton County which substantiate that. But either way, he was never charged with domestic violence.

Bottom line, despite the smoke and noise, these are still misdemeanor offenses.

I would suppose that Myles is suspended to try to keep him on a short leash and force him to pay attention to his business while laying low.

I'll be very surprised if he is not on the court in November.

[AviatorX]

Bottom line, despite the smoke and noise, these are still misdemeanor offenses.

I would suppose that Myles is suspended to try to keep him on a short leash and force him to pay attention to his business while laying low.

I'll be very surprised if he is not on the court in November.

Don't you think that the gap between the incidents going public and the suspension kind of works against that idea?

[Masterofreality]

Don't you think that the gap between the incidents going public and the suspension kind of works against that idea?

No.

[AviatorX]

No.

Really? Seems plausible to me that what you described was the case, and Myles did a poor job handling his business, thus suspension. I'm just speculating, but otherwise the timing seems completely random.

[xu82]

Really? Seems plausible to me that what you described was the case, and Myles did a poor job handling his business, thus suspension. I'm just speculating, but otherwise the timing seems completely random.

And the suspension could just be a corrective tug coming with a shortening of the leash. It's all just speculation at this point, but I sure hope he gets it together....for a lot of reasons and not just basketball.

[GIMMFD]

Myles Davis has NOT been accused of domestic violence. He has been accused of criminal damaging. Big difference.

To be honest, I wasn't 100% sure on that. Thanks for clarification!

[Juice]

I'm not able to find any records in Kenton County which substantiate that. But either way, he was never charged with domestic violence.

I just looked, they must not show up anymore for whatever reason. It was linked to on this board.

[paulxu]

I hope he's on the court, and not in the court, in November.

[xukeith]

winning and $$ talks. X is turning a blind eye to morals and ethics if he plays for X and I imagine he will sit out some games and play because XU is Jesuit, XU cares about $$, XU knows basketball rules the school.


I hope he sees the light but he broke a court order and is plain stupid. If this were 1990-1992, we all would say this is a UC player and Huggs lets all thugs play for team. Shoe is on our foot now.
What would Skip do?

[xu82]

winning and $$ talks. X is turning a blind eye to morals and ethics if he plays for X and I imagine he will sit out some games and play because XU is Jesuit, XU cares about $$, XU knows basketball rules the school.


I hope he sees the light but he broke a court order and is plain stupid. If this were 1990-1992, we all would say this is a UC player and Huggs lets all thugs play for team. Shoe is on our foot now.
What would Skip do?

You sound a little like you know all the facts here. We've turned a blind eye? He's suspended indefinitely.

[Masterofreality]

winning and $$ talks. X is turning a blind eye to morals and ethics if he plays for X and I imagine he will sit out some games and play because XU is Jesuit, XU cares about $$, XU knows basketball rules the school.


I hope he sees the light but he broke a court order and is plain stupid. If this were 1990-1992, we all would say this is a UC player and Huggs lets all thugs play for team. Shoe is on our foot now.
What would Skip do?

Well, well. Incredibly spoken by the High Grounded Holier than Thou.
Sorry for you that these are only misdemeanors. You could really soapbox if they were felonies like the ingrates across town.
Too bad you can't rail and scream louder.

And Skip would lose his opening NCAA game. That's what "Skip would do".

[XUFan09]

Did he violate a court order? Is that a fact or just speculation?

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[Juice]

Did he violate a court order? Is that a fact or just speculation?

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Rumor.

In Ohio, violating a protection order is a misdemeanor of the first degree. I'm sure Kentucky has a similar charge. But as of now, it doesn't appear that any new charges have been filed.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2919.27

[xu82]

Did he violate a court order? Is that a fact or just speculation?

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It's fact, until it's determined to be false speculation. Kinda backwards but hey, sometimes you get it right.

[xeus]

winning and $$ talks. X is turning a blind eye to morals and ethics if he plays for X and I imagine he will sit out some games and play because XU is Jesuit, XU cares about $$, XU knows basketball rules the school.


I hope he sees the light but he broke a court order and is plain stupid. If this were 1990-1992, we all would say this is a UC player and Huggs lets all thugs play for team. Shoe is on our foot now.
What would Skip do?

Have you been drinking all day? This is one of the more poorly reasoned posts I've read this entire offseason. (And that's really saying something.)

[XUMIOH12]

Have you been drinking all day? This is one of the more poorly reasoned posts I've read this entire offseason. (And that's really saying something.)

yeah im pretty sure he is just making up some BS stating that he broke a court order. As far as anyone knows, the suspension was issued from Coach Mack as a message to Myles Davis to focus on getting his shit together...or else.

[Xville]

not saying this is what happened with Myles at all...actually it sounds like Myles is guilty of some things. However, I leave this here because it proves how both guys and girls can be completely nuts in relationships...

http://deadspin.com/witness-claims-ezekiel-elliotts-girlfriend-asked-her-to-1786320742

[LA Muskie]

yeah im pretty sure he is just making up some BS stating that he broke a court order. As far as anyone knows, the suspension was issued from Coach Mack as a message to Myles Davis to focus on getting his shit together...or else.
It is not the bolded part; this is not just a "message" to Myles. If you want more, subscribe to Rick and Dan.

[bobbiemcgee]

I'm pretty excited about Quentin getting all this time, so glass half full scenario, I guess.

[xu82]

I'm pretty excited about Quentin getting all this time, so glass half full scenario, I guess.

Since we have no control, that seems to be the healthiest way to look at it.

[paulxu]

Not the type of write-up that you want.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/17476196/the-challenge-facing-team-hoops-top-25

[X-band '01]

I'm sure Villanova loved the part where they snuck up on everybody.

[novachap]

I'm sure Villanova loved the part where they snuck up on everybody.

No kidding..... 3 year record prior to the run was under the radar, no words. Happy to see it wasnt just my paranoia.

I hope this Myles stuff gets sorted out sooner rather than later. Our games, if at full strength, will be special. Hoping spellman situation clears too.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

What is the spellman situation?


No kidding..... 3 year record prior to the run was under the radar, no words. Happy to see it wasnt just my paranoia.

I hope this Myles stuff gets sorted out sooner rather than later. Our games, if at full strength, will be special. Hoping spellman situation clears too.

[novachap]

What is the spellman situation?

Awaiting ncaa ruling end of September on when he can begin playing in games- he is allowed to practice.. Investigating when he started high school. His family moved so he was in multiple schools and he did prep school too so they are looking into it. Apparently happens a lot. Irony is he graduated, had good grades, was accepted at Nova and is in class yet ncaa is holding him up.

General feeling, with no hard evidence, is he will probably be deemed eligible for games after semester 1 (in time for league play), 2, he is eligible starting 10/1 or 3, he is red shirted. Ncaa taking forever on this, again, HE WENT TO CLASS! Can you say north carolina?

[paulxu]

Irony is he graduated, had good grades, was accepted at Nova and is in class yet ncaa is holding him up.

That's not ironic. It's typical.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Agreed, I think a lot don't understand that schools are allowed to take 'special needs' kids. This coming from a guy I know in the thick of NCAA ball. A lot of athletes are taken as 'special needs'. The idea that a kid was accepted and is in class is absolutely as far from clearing as it could be.

Diallo at KU was in class and getting good grades and the NCAA made him wait. His grasp of English was poor to say the least and went to a High School with 18 year olds taking classes with 3rd graders. He was most likely taken as a special needs case and shoved into class with tutors. That is more a statement on the school than anything else.


That's not ironic. It's typical.

[XUMIOH12]

Myles tweet just a bit ago doesn't sound too good. Makes it sound like he may be gone...

[XUMIOH12]

Myles Davis ‏@_mdavis15 30m30 minutes ago
Just want to thank Xavier and everyone who's been I my life and regardless of w/e going on I can say I'm a college graduate! Thank you God!

[GIMMFD]

Myles Davis ‏@_mdavis15 30m30 minutes ago
Just want to thank Xavier and everyone who's been I my life and regardless of w/e going on I can say I'm a college graduate! Thank you God!

Well shit.

[JTG]

Well shit.

Goddammit. ..well that sucks

[XUMIOH12]

Well shit.

yeah thats about all that can be said

[Xville]

Pretty sure we would know if that's the case. I think xavier is very careful to let the process play out this time. Anyways at this point, I'm pretty indifferent either way...trust in mack and Xavier this time and whatever happens, happens.

[xu82]

I'm NOT indifferent, but I DO trust in Mack and crew. Still hoping this can be worked out.

[XMuskieFTW]

Seen at least two people mention that he's in New Jersey right now instead of being at school. Any merit to this? If so, we are looking at second semester best case scenario, likely gone.

[xukeith]

Goddammit. ..well that sucks

I hope MD learned his lesson and all involved can have peace.

[nuts4xu]

Myles tweet just a bit ago doesn't sound too good. Makes it sound like he may be gone...

Or it may mean nothing. The last time Myles had some ominous tweets, many thought he was off the team. I understand the reason people read between the lines, but I won't jump to any conclusions based on the twitter ramblings of a 21 year old kid.

[GetUp5]

Or it may mean nothing. The last time Myles had some ominous tweets, many thought he was off the team. I understand the reason people read between the lines, but I won't jump to any conclusions based on the twitter ramblings of a 21 year old kid.

..................

[kyxu]

Or it may mean nothing. The last time Myles had some ominous tweets, many thought he was off the team. I understand the reason people read between the lines, but I won't jump to any conclusions based on the twitter ramblings of a 21 year old kid.

He's a 23-year-old man. Definitely not a kid.

EDIT: He'll be 23 in less than two months.

[NY44]

Or it may mean nothing. The last time Myles had some ominous tweets, many thought he was off the team. I understand the reason people read between the lines, but I won't jump to any conclusions based on the twitter ramblings of a 21 year old kid.

"regardless of w/e going on I can say I'm a college graduate!"

I generally agree, but that's a little more than a subtweet to me.

[XUFan09]

He's a 23-year-old man. Definitely not a kid.
Lol if you say so. The college bubble has a way of protracting adolescence, and it would be silly to not recognize these players as kids or, at best, as young adults. Hell, the brain doesn't even finish developing until 25, so even if they're not in the college bubble, 23-year-olds are still prone to immaturity and impulsive behavior.

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[GoMuskies]

My double secret source says that this doesn't really mean anything. I don't subscribe to any premium sites, but I do read posts before they get deleted by mods sometimes.

[AviatorX]

Lol if you say so. The college bubble has a way of protracting adolescence, and it would be silly to not recognize these players as kids or, at best, as young adults. Hell, the brain doesn't even finish developing until 25, so even if they're not in the college bubble, 23-year-olds are still prone to immaturity and impulsive behavior.

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Agreed. I know you aren't saying differently, but the thing is, based on the timing of the suspension, it seems like Myles was given every chance/benefit of the doubt for his youth/immaturity and screwed up multiple times.

[xu82]

My double secret source says that this doesn't really mean anything. I don't subscribe to any premium sites, but I do read posts before they get deleted by mods sometimes.

That's pretty shaky info, but I'll take it and run if it helps me sleep better!

[nuts4xu]

He's a 23-year-old man. Definitely not a kid.

EDIT: He'll be 23 in less than two months.

I am in my early 40's, anyone in their early 20's is a kid to me. He may physically be a man, but based on his recent transgressions, he has a lot of growing up to do.

[kyxu]

Lol if you say so. The college bubble has a way of protracting adolescence, and it would be silly to not recognize these players as kids or, at best, as young adults. Hell, the brain doesn't even finish developing until 25, so even if they're not in the college bubble, 23-year-olds are still prone to immaturity and impulsive behavior.

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Wait, are we talking about the tweets or the conduct?

[XUFan09]

Wait, are we talking about the tweets or the conduct?
Simply your dubious assertion that a 23-year-old is a man.

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[GoMuskies]

A 23 year-old is most definitely a man. That's not to say there aren't a whole lot of immature 23 year-olds and that one should expect a 23 year-old to act like a 30 year-old, but a 23 year-old is not a 17 or 18 year-old either.

[kyxu]

Simply your dubious assertion that a 23-year-old is a man.

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Yeah, asserting that a person who is 4-5 years past legal adulthood is not a "kid." How dubious of me.

I understand that adults can be immature. We all get that. But I don't agree with the dismissal of his behavior and attributing it to him being a "kid." I doubt Mack holds him to that standard.

[XUFan09]

A 23 year-old is most definitely a man. That's not to say there aren't a whole lot of immature 23 year-olds and that one should expect a 23 year-old to act like a 30 year-old, but a 23 year-old is not a 17 or 18 year-old either.
Frankly, 23-year-olds are young adults. Simply saying that they are adults without that adjective implies that they are in a similar category to a 30-year-old. Myles is much more like a college underclassmen, including teenagers, than he is like people in their late 20s. And he tweets like that too, which goes back to where he was referred to as a man in the first place.

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[XUFan09]

Yeah, asserting that a person who is 4-5 years past legal adulthood is not a "kid." How dubious of me.

I understand that adults can be immature. We all get that. But I don't agree with the dismissal of his behavior and attributing it to him being a "kid." I doubt Mack holds him to that standard.
Well, you brought up your correction initially in response to his "twitter ramblings," which are definitely more akin to a kid's than an adult's. I agree that he should be held to a higher standard than that of a kid, but it's not like he's been held to the standards of a full-grown man either by Mack. I suspect he would be gone if that were true.

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[kyxu]

Well, you brought up your correction initially in response to his "twitter ramblings," which are definitely more akin to a kid's than an adult's. I agree that he should be held to a higher standard than that of a kid, but it's not like he's been held to the standards of a full-grown-man either by Mack. I suspect he would be gone if that were true.

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Is Myles Davis 35-years-old with three kids and a mortgage? No, he is not. No one is saying that.

He is, however, very close to the age of 23, and many grads at his age are getting their first full-time job and living on their own. Myles may still be in college, but he's probably more well-traveled than many on this board. He's already been a ways from home in NJ, away from his parents, for 5+ years, and has had to live in environs (in prep school and now college) which require adherence to rules and structure. He's not oblivious or exempt from the fact that not following these rules can jeopardize his future. If his twitter ramblings are more akin to that of a teenager, then he may just be immature. But that doesn't make him any less of an adult.

He is a male "young adult". He is a man.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Myles does tweet like a teenager, and I've noticed that even before any of these incidents occurred. Lots of very vague tweets and often tweets when he's feeling emotional about something. So hard to tell for sure if it's just Myles being Myles, or if he really is done at X.

[XUMIOH12]

Myles does tweet like a teenager, and I've noticed that even before any of these incidents occurred. Lots of very vague tweets and often tweets when he's feeling emotional about something. So hard to tell for sure if it's just Myles being Myles, or if he really is done at X.

Tweet from Rothstein a few days ago says Myles Davis has been released from the team.

[SemajParlor]

Tweet from Rothstein a few days ago says Myles Davis has been released from the team.

That was a fake account.

[GoMuskies]

That was a fake account.

But if it DOES happen, I bet Fairleigh Ridiculous would be getting a fantastic mid-season grad transfer.

[SemajParlor]

Is Myles Davis 35-years-old with three kids and a mortgage? No, he is not. No one is saying that.

He is, however, very close to the age of 23, and many grads at his age are getting their first full-time job and living on their own. Myles may still be in college, but he's probably more well-traveled than many on this board. He's already been a ways from home in NJ, away from his parents, for 5+ years, and has had to live in environs (in prep school and now college) which require adherence to rules and structure. He's not oblivious or exempt from the fact that not following these rules can jeopardize his future. If his twitter ramblings are more akin to that of a teenager, then he may just be immature. But that doesn't make him any less of an adult.

He is a male "young adult". He is a man.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXEde89WC44

[GoMuskies]

Ha, today is my 40th birthday. So I guess I'm finally a MAN.

[X-band '01]

But if it DOES happen, I bet Fairleigh Ridiculous would be getting a fantastic mid-season grad transfer.

The Ghost of Lloyd Price would warn them to stay away.

[xu82]

Ha, today is my 40th birthday. So I guess I'm finally a MAN.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!



I miss 40......

[GIMMFD]

You guys are worried about someone having emotional tweets as a sign of manhood?? Jeeze guys, come on. I think it's a bit different for people my age (the same as Myles), we've been exposed to social media since like 6th grade a MySpace, our generation is used to putting most things on social media for the world to see. Is it a good thing?? Probably not, but everybody gets in their feelings and if Twitter is his muse, then let it be his muse. I mean even I mostly just tweets jokes and random thoughts, but occasionally there are emotional things that I post. It's part of life and growing up in the technology generation honestly...

[Xville]

You guys are worried about someone having emotional tweets as a sign of manhood?? Jeeze guys, come on. I think it's a bit different for people my age (the same as Myles), we've been exposed to social media since like 6th grade a MySpace, our generation is used to putting most things on social media for the world to see. Is it a good thing?? Probably not, but everybody gets in their feelings and if Twitter is his muse, then let it be his muse. I mean even I mostly just tweets jokes and random thoughts, but occasionally there are emotional things that I post. It's part of life and growing up in the technology generation honestly...

I despise social media for this very reason, and I'd like to think I'm still young at 35 so not a get off my lawn kind of guy. I just really think sharing every thought that you have ever had or sharing every single moment of your life with everyone is ridiculous. No one cares.

And I'm not saying that social media in and of itself is a bad thing, but like a lot of things, the public has basically made it awful

[xudash]

Ha, today is my 40th birthday. So I guess I'm finally a MAN.

Happy Birthday!

[xudash]

You guys are worried about someone having emotional tweets as a sign of manhood?? Jeeze guys, come on. I think it's a bit different for people my age (the same as Myles), we've been exposed to social media since like 6th grade a MySpace, our generation is used to putting most things on social media for the world to see. Is it a good thing?? Probably not, but everybody gets in their feelings and if Twitter is his muse, then let it be his muse. I mean even I mostly just tweets jokes and random thoughts, but occasionally there are emotional things that I post. It's part of life and growing up in the technology generation honestly...

Thank you for sharing that perspective.

[xu82]

You guys are worried about someone having emotional tweets as a sign of manhood?? Jeeze guys, come on. I think it's a bit different for people my age (the same as Myles), we've been exposed to social media since like 6th grade a MySpace, our generation is used to putting most things on social media for the world to see. Is it a good thing?? Probably not, but everybody gets in their feelings and if Twitter is his muse, then let it be his muse. I mean even I mostly just tweets jokes and random thoughts, but occasionally there are emotional things that I post. It's part of life and growing up in the technology generation honestly...


I have a son your age who's seen all the same stuff. He's doing great, but I get how many could make a mess of it. I think it may be like a lot of money, it doesn't change who you are, it just makes you more of what you are. Or, I could be way off. (That happens a lot too.)

[Juice]

I despise social media for this very reason, and I'd like to think I'm still young at 35 so not a get off my lawn kind of guy. I just really think sharing every thought that you have ever had or sharing every single moment of your life with everyone is ridiculous. No one cares.

And I'm not saying that social media in and of itself is a bad thing, but like a lot of things, the public has basically made it awful

Says the guy who is talking about his tweets on a message board...

[X-man]

Seen at least two people mention that he's in New Jersey right now instead of being at school. Any merit to this? If so, we are looking at second semester best case scenario, likely gone.

Still enrolled at XU, I believe, but home in NJ sorting things out. No idea how this all pans out.

[X-band '01]

Ha, today is my 40th birthday. So I guess I'm finally a MAN.

What is the going rate for Mike Gundy memorabilia nowadays? He's about to become a 50-year-old man in a year.

[xudash]

Still enrolled at XU, I believe, but home in NJ sorting things out. No idea how this all pans out.

Well then, reading that he's still enrolled and that he is home - and away from campus and his teammates - sorting it out, is encouraging to me.

Free Will is a bitch. We'll see if he figures this out. We'll see how important basketball is to him.

[Xville]

Says the guy who is talking about his tweets on a message board...

I don't care what myles says on twitter, I said as much when there were a few here that were freaking out over it. At this point, I don't really care if Myles is on the team or not...if he's not then I trust in mack that he doesn't deserve to be on it. If he is, then I trust in mack that he believes myles made appropriate steps to get back on the team. I hope that myles figures it all out in his personal life, and doesn't have these kinds of things come up again, but I don't care what he says on twitbook.

[xu82]

I don't care what myles says on twitter, I said as much when there were a few here that were freaking out over it. At this point, I don't really care if Myles is on the team or not...if he's not then I trust in mack that he doesn't deserve to be on it. If he is, then I trust in mack that he believes myles made appropriate steps to get back on the team. I hope that myles figures it all out in his personal life, and doesn't have these kinds of things come up again, but I don't care what he says on twitbook.

Like it or not, it's a glimpse into his mind. For better or for worse.

[GIMMFD]

I have a son your age who's seen all the same stuff. He's doing great, but I get how many could make a mess of it. I think it may be like a lot of money, it doesn't change who you are, it just makes you more of what you are. Or, I could be way off. (That happens a lot too.)

Well I'm not saying that Myles is a emotionally-unstable human being or anything, and there's the people that use social media for their small jokes, to catch up on world news, sports, and what not (what most people do) and others who use it as a venting place, which is kind of what I was getting at. It's one of the things about it, we each use it differently, I wasn't saying it as a shot to any of the older guys, I'm just saying different generations are exposed to different things.

[xu82]

Well I'm not saying that Myles is a emotionally-unstable human being or anything, and there's the people that use social media for their small jokes, to catch up on world news, sports, and what not (what most people do) and others who use it as a venting place, which is kind of what I was getting at. It's one of the things about it, we each use it differently, I wasn't saying it as a shot to any of the older guys, I'm just saying different generations are exposed to different things.

Oh, don't get me wrong - I don't take that as a shot in any way. I find the rapidly escalating world to be absolutely fascinating! And also a little scary, for very real reasons.

[Juice]

I don't care what myles says on twitter, I said as much when there were a few here that were freaking out over it. At this point, I don't really care if Myles is on the team or not...if he's not then I trust in mack that he doesn't deserve to be on it. If he is, then I trust in mack that he believes myles made appropriate steps to get back on the team. I hope that myles figures it all out in his personal life, and doesn't have these kinds of things come up again, but I don't care what he says on twitbook.

I'm sure you don't care what bloggers type from their mom's basements either.

[casualfan]

Maybe this is a dumb questions, but if he is in NJ and classes have started how is he going to stay eligible?

[X-band '01]

I'm guessing extensive tutoring and a sit-down with Sr. Rose Ann Fleming will be part of that equation.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I hope he looks at this like Pierre did at Dayton. Gut it out, make things right, and finish your career where you started. Granted, Myles is facing a much lower charge than Pierre.

[casualfan]

I'm guessing extensive tutoring and a sit-down with Sr. Rose Ann Fleming will be part of that equation.

Most classes I took in school only have you a certain number of absences before you got dropped.

I went to NKU though. Is it diffevent at X?

[GoMuskies]

Most classes I took in school only have you a certain number of absences before you got dropped.

I went to NKU though. Is it diffevent at X?

Most of my professors didn't take attendance.

[XU 87]

Most of my professors didn't take attendance.

True, but at some point I would think he needs to attend class to take a test.

[GoMuskies]

True, but at some point I would think he needs to attend class to take a test.

He's in grad school, right? Maybe there's only a paper and a final.

[X-band '01]

He's in grad school, right? Maybe there's only a paper and a final.

Thanks Go. Now people are going to think Xavier grad school is a diploma mill like UNC-Chapel Hill.

[GoMuskies]

Thanks Go. Now people are going to think Xavier grad school is a diploma mill like UNC-Chapel Hill.

No. When I was in law school, there was only a final at the end. If you didn't show up the rest of the year and just took the final, your grade was still just based on the results of the test.

Wait, that WAS UNC-Chapel Hill. Nevermind.

[kyxu]

When I was at X, it depended on the professor. Some took strict attendance, while others didn't care.

[XU 87]

He's in grad school, right? Maybe there's only a paper and a final.

You may be correct about that.

[paulxu]

Wait, that WAS UNC-Chapel Hill.

Boom.

[xu82]

I LOVE Chapel Hill, having spent 6-7 long summer hoops camp sessions with 2 boys. Between the gyms, walking the town an campus and the daily planetarium trips, maybe I should have some type of diploma?

[ArizonaXUGrad]

You probably do have one that remains unaccepted.


I LOVE Chapel Hill, having spent 6-7 long summer hoops camp sessions with 2 boys. Between the gyms, walking the town an campus and the daily planetarium trips, maybe I should have some type of diploma?

[paulxu]

Every time this thread has a new post, and I open it up, I'm expecting to see that Myles is gone for good.

This crap is killing me.

[GoMuskies]

Every time this thread has a new post, and I open it up, I'm expecting to see that Myles is gone for good.


But you don't mind doing that to the rest of us now do you? You selfish South Cackalackan!

[xudash]

Every time this thread has a new post, and I open it up, I'm expecting to see that Myles is gone for good.

This crap is killing me.

That's the problem with you "glass half empty" liberals.

I'm awaiting a post on the "Tweets you gotta love" thread where he shares that he's cleared his head and is on his way back to Victory Parkway from the Garden State.

Seriously, I just can't see this whole mess taking him out, because I believe that basketball, and this year with Xavier means so much to him.

We'll see. The relationships that meld and mush between boys and girls and girls and boys can become things of beauty or hot messes.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

This, I just don't see a dent and a phone taking him out for the year. Pierre was accused of rape and he was playing in December.


Seriously, I just can't see this whole mess taking him out, because I believe that basketball, and this year with Xavier means so much to him.

[X-band '01]

This, I just don't see a dent and a phone taking him out for the year. Pierre was accused of rape and he was playing in December.

Pierre wasn't even enrolled for the first semester; that's why he was allowed to play in December after his case was either dismissed or settled.

If Myles were to withdraw for this semester and get his off-court act together, he probably could join the team for the 2nd semester if he's allowed back on the team.

[mid major]

Pierre's situation was worse than Myles' and he still was allowed back. Oh yeah, I forgot; our standards are higher than ud's.

[xukeith]

Pierre's situation was worse than Myles' and he still was allowed back. Oh yeah, I forgot; our standards are higher than ud's.

In 1990-1995, "XU doesn't recruit thugs. We don't recruit bad boys. Our guys go to class, graduate and are upstanding individuals compared to UC thugs"

2016, "We can let this slide. Myles didn't physically harm any one. He made a small mistake and should not be punished at our school. Basketball is so much more important than the law and/ or morality"

[ArizonaXUGrad]

This was really my point not his academic standing. I hope he returns.


Pierre's situation was worse than Myles' and he still was allowed back. Oh yeah, I forgot; our standards are higher than ud's.

[GoMuskies]

In 1990-1995, "XU doesn't recruit thugs. We don't recruit bad boys. Our guys go to class, graduate and are upstanding individuals compared to UC thugs"

2016, "We can let this slide. Myles didn't physically harm any one. He made a small mistake and should not be punished at our school. Basketball is so much more important than the law and/ or morality"

Of course, Andre Smith played for Xavier during the '90-'95 period, so....

[xudash]

But have any of our players ever put a police horse at risk?

[bobbiemcgee]

Pierre's situation was worse than Myles' and he still was allowed back. Oh yeah, I forgot; our standards are higher than ud's.

Crawford swiped a cell phone and got nada.

[GoMuskies]

Crawford swiped a cell phone and got nada.

Nothing that we know of. He was redshirting that year, so any punishment would have been private (and probably involved exercise-induced puking at some insane hour of the morning).

[xubrew]

Pierre wasn't even enrolled for the first semester; that's why he was allowed to play in December after his case was either dismissed or settled.

If Myles were to withdraw for this semester and get his off-court act together, he probably could join the team for the 2nd semester if he's allowed back on the team.

You can't do a missed semester if you withdraw from your classes after the semester has begun. You can only do it if you're not registered when classes begin.

That being said, he can still join the team in the second semester so long as he passes 6hrs and stays above a 2.0 for his overall GPA. For that matter, he can play on the team in the first semester so long as he's enrolled full time.

[Xville]

That's the problem with you "glass half empty" liberals.

I'm awaiting a post on the "Tweets you gotta love" thread where he shares that he's cleared his head and is on his way back to Victory Parkway from the Garden State.

Seriously, I just can't see this whole mess taking him out, because I believe that basketball, and this year with Xavier means so much to him.

We'll see. The relationships that meld and mush between boys and girls and girls and boys can become things of beauty or hot messes.

So because it means a lot to him he won't be kicked off the team? That's interesting. If this was a UC player, we'd have burned the guy at the stake by now, but because he is a Xavier player, he did nothing wrong and even if he did do something wrong, all should be forgiven. Insert eye roll.

[xu82]

So because it means a lot to him he won't be kicked off the team? That's interesting. If this was a UC player, we'd have burned the guy at the stake by now, but because he is a Xavier player, he did nothing wrong and even if he did do something wrong, all should be forgiven. Insert eye roll.

Or, maybe if it's so important to him, he will do everything in his power to make it right and get back. It may be beyond his control, but he'll do what he can.

[mid major]

Of course, Andre Smith played for Xavier during the '90-'95 period, so....

So did Aaron Turner.

[GoMuskies]

Did Aaron Turner kill a guy, too?

[XU 87]

2016, "We can let this slide. Myles didn't physically harm any one. He made a small mistake and should not be punished at our school. Basketball is so much more important than the law and/ or morality"

Who said this? Who said "Let it slide"? Who said, "He shouldn't be punished?" Who said, "Basketball is much more important than law or morality?"

[XUFan09]

Who said this? Who said "Let it slide"? Who said, "He shouldn't be punished?" Who said, "Basketball is much more important than law or morality?"

Keith sometimes has to grasp at straws in order to pontificate.

[xu82]

Who said this? Who said "Let it slide"? Who said, "He shouldn't be punished?" Who said, "Basketball is much more important than law or morality?"

I think you just quoted him?

[xudash]

Or, maybe if it's so important to him, he will do everything in his power to make it right and get back. It may be beyond his control, but he'll do what he can.

Thank you. Exactly the way I was thinking about it.

He still has to make this "right" whatever that means to Xavier and Coach Mack, and that assumes that any and all legal aspects of this mess will have been cleared up.

He has to take the first step in wanting to get back to his uniform and playing for Xavier. Once he clearly and fully understands that he wants to come back, he'll be engaging whatever process necessary in order to make it all the way back.

Nobody in their right mind believes he was angelic in his behavior in all this.

[Roadlife]

Who said this? Who said "Let it slide"? Who said, "He shouldn't be punished?" Who said, "Basketball is much more important than law or morality?"
Barack Obama?

[paulxu]

But you don't mind doing that to the rest of us now do you? You selfish South Cackalackan!

Hold that thought. Here's another one.

[bleedXblue]

At this point it would be great if we really just understood Myles situation better. Is he still enrolled at X and is he doing all that he can in order to be reinstated?

[xubrew]

It's frustrating, but I look at it this way. If he's out there in November then I'll know he's back. If he's not out there in November, then I'll know he's not back. If he's not out there in late December, then I'll know he's not coming back. Other than that, despite being naturally curious I've come to realize that what I know or don't know really doesn't effect the situation.

[GoMuskies]

It's frustrating, but I look at it this way. If he's out there in November then I'll know he's back. If he's not out there in November, then I'll know he's not back. If he's not out there in late December, then I'll know he's not coming back. Other than that, despite being naturally curious I've come to realize that what I know or don't know really doesn't effect the situation.

You just explained my philosophy on recruiting news perfectly.

[Masterofreality]

FWIW: On the official Xavier MBB roster released today, Myles is on it.

[GIMMFD]

FWIW: On the official Xavier MBB roster released today, Myles is on it.

That's gotta be considered some good news right???

[kyxu]

FWIW: On the official Xavier MBB roster released today, Myles is on it.

The one released on goxavier.com? If so, I believe that one has been out for weeks.

[MauriceX]

FWIW: On the official Xavier MBB roster released today, Myles is on it.

This is a legit question, since I don't really know... but isn't that expected? To me, suspended indefinitely and kicked off the team are two different things. I was trying to think back to the last Xavier player kicked off a team, and I believe that was Dedrick Finn. Wasn't he flat out "dismissed from the team" instead of suspended?

[XUMIOH12]

This is a legit question, since I don't really know... but isn't that expected? To me, suspended indefinitely and kicked off the team are two different things. I was trying to think back to the last Xavier player kicked off a team, and I believe that was Dedrick Finn. Wasn't he flat out "dismissed from the team" instead of suspended?

yep, him being on the roster is not news.

[Muskie]

This is a legit question, since I don't really know... but isn't that expected? To me, suspended indefinitely and kicked off the team are two different things. I was trying to think back to the last Xavier player kicked off a team, and I believe that was Dedrick Finn. Wasn't he flat out "dismissed from the team" instead of suspended?

Yes. With about 4-6 games left in the season if I remember right.

[casualfan]

Not sure what this means, if anything:

Shannon Russell ✔ @slrussell
According to Enquirer reporter @kgrasha, Myles Davis' pretrial hearing has been rescheduled for Oct. 27. #Xavier
1:37 PM - 4 Oct 2016

[Muskie]

Means they were not ready to set a final hearing date so there will be another Pre Trial later this month. Completely normal.

[paulxu]

Didn't Scout put that out 3 hours ago?

[XU 87]

Not sure what this means, if anything:

Shannon Russell ✔ @slrussell
According to Enquirer reporter @kgrasha, Myles Davis' pretrial hearing has been rescheduled for Oct. 27. #Xavier
1:37 PM - 4 Oct 2016

This could mean that the case is being set over to see if he can get diversion, like he got on the other case. I'm just not sure you can get diversion on two different cases. Juice, any thoughts?

Diversion is where he does community service in return for dismissal of the charges.

[Muskie]

This could mean that the case is being set over to see if he can get diversion, like he got on the other case. I'm just not sure you can get diversion on two different cases. Juice, any thoughts?

Diversion is where he does community service in return for dismissal of the charges.

Not licensed in Ohio, but it's very difficult to get diversions on two separate pending cases at the same time in Indiana.

[Juice]

This could mean that the case is being set over to see if he can get diversion, like he got on the other case. I'm just not sure you can get diversion on two different cases. Juice, any thoughts?

Diversion is where he does community service in return for dismissal of the charges.

It's possible but hard to do unless they decide to treat the two charges as one big incident since it's the same victim/family. What he has going against him is that one charge is with the city prosecutor's office and the other is with the county's office. So that's two completely different offices of people that need to sign off on diversion.

[nuts4xu]

It's possible but hard to do unless they decide to treat the two charges as one big incident since it's the same victim/family. What he has going against him is that one charge is with the city prosecutor's office and the other is with the county's office. So that's two completely different offices of people that need to sign off on diversion.

What determines the office that handles the case? The location where the offense occurred?

[XU 87]

What determines the office that handles the case? The location where the offense occurred?

Yes, depends on if it happened in the city or outside the city limits, unless it's a felony. There's a city prosecutor and a county prosecutor.

[nuts4xu]

County would handle municipalities like Norwood, Anderson Twp, Newtown, Sycamore Twp?

[Juice]

County would handle municipalities like Norwood, Anderson Twp, Newtown, Sycamore Twp?

Correct. Based on the case numbers that Myles has, the one with a C in front of it is a county case. The one without a C is the city case. The county handles every criminal case in the county except for adult misdemeanors that occur within the Cincinnati city limits.

[XU 87]

n/m

[Wheelhouse]

From Mack's presser today via Shannon:

Chris Mack talked today about @_mdavis15, who is indefinitely suspended from @XavierMBB. Mack: "He’s got some more hurdles to overcome. Obviously there are some that are legal that are out there. We’re not necessarily going to put a timetable on it publicly and say 'This is when he will or won’t be back.’ He’s got an opportunity to come back. But he’s got to clear some things up first, and when that happens we will let you know."

So you're telling me there's a chance...

[paulxu]

I'm a fan of air 5's.

[GoMuskies]

This is from Shannon? How much earlier did Return of the Mack have this info?

[bobbiemcgee]

https://laidoffdiaries.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/164637_536889613016964_2008044695_n1.jpg
I'm a fan of air 5's.

[ReturnOfTheMack]

This is from Shannon? How much earlier did Return of the Mack have this info?

What info? She transcribed a press conference, she didn't break a story. You do understand the difference right? This has pretty much been the company line for over a month. Nothing new here. We'll see what happens.

[bobbiemcgee]

Pre-trial hearing on 27th. Maybe he shows up with 2 Iphone 7's, a sheet of drywall and case is dismissed :jawdrop:

[drudy23]

He'll be back...he'll miss a few games, but he'll be back.

[ReturnOfTheMack]

For those of you who don't listen to the Dana and Victory podcasts, the issue was discussed on podcast 92. "It's a near certainty Myles will rejoin the team", albeit it will be after the first semester concludes.

[XMuskieFTW]

Myles was scheduled to have his pretrial hearing yesterday. Any update from that? Also to our many legal experts, is the pretrial hearing more of a formality just setting up trial date, stating charges, etc?

[Juice]

Myles was scheduled to have his pretrial hearing yesterday. Any update from that? Also to our many legal experts, is the pretrial hearing more of a formality just setting up trial date, stating charges, etc?

Another pretrial on 11/3. Pretrials are used to exchange discovery, plea negotiate, etc.

[Muskie]

What Juice said basically. Often times the defendant doesn't even have to be there.


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[ArizonaXUGrad]

Any word, I would imagine they will wait for this to clear up with some kind of court punishment before his hopeful reinstatement.


What Juice said basically. Often times the defendant doesn't even have to be there.


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[Juice]

Any word, I would imagine they will wait for this to clear up with some kind of court punishment before his hopeful reinstatement.

Whether he pleads guilty to one or both of these charges, he's getting probation. His requirements will be that he has stay out of trouble, stay away from her and her family, and pay them back for the phones. It would probably be a year of probation.

[Caveat]

I'I genuinely shocked he hasn't resolved this case, publicly / privately apologized to everyone, and begged forgiveness

[Juice]

I'I genuinely shocked he hasn't resolved this case, publicly / privately apologized to everyone, and begged forgiveness

I'm guessing there were too many incidents between him and her to the point where the girl and her family were sick of it. I'm basing this off the fact that there is a protection order in Kentucky and two different charges from two different dates here in Hamilton County. Quite frankly, if his alleged behavior is true, that's bullshit on his part.

[Olsingledigit]

My understanding is he has had his court hearings (no reported decisions) but now must go before the dreaded Xavier Conduct Board (think Dez Wells). IF he survives that my understanding is he might be eligible to be re-instated in December.

[xufan02]

My understanding is he has had his court hearings (no reported decisions) but now must go before the dreaded Xavier Conduct Board (think Dez Wells). IF he survives that my understanding is he might be eligible to be re-instated in December.

This has already happened weeks ago and he was cleared. It is not a matter of if Myles is cleared it is a matter of when. Obviously he has to stay out of trouble but I would imagine we see him after the first semester.

[Xville]

This has already happened weeks ago and he was cleared. It is not a matter of if Myles is cleared it is a matter of when. Obviously he has to stay out of trouble but I would imagine we see him after the first semester.

If all his allegations are true, he is very lucky to be getting another chance. This wasn't something where he messed up once, he messed up multiple times on the same issue.

[muskienick]

If all his allegations are true, he is very lucky to be getting another chance. This wasn't something where he messed up once, he messed up multiple times on the same issue.

Thanks again for sharing one of your bright and cheery opinions!

[Xville]

Thanks again for sharing one of your bright and cheery opinions!

You are free to put me on ignore...life isn't all sunshine and rainbows and neither is what myles is accused of doing. Sorry I don't have my head in the sand.

[XU 87]

If all his allegations are true, he is very lucky to be getting another chance. This wasn't something where he messed up once, he messed up multiple times on the same issue.

He damaged two cell phones. That's wrong, but let's keep things in perspective. And he's paying a significant price for his behavior.

[Xville]

He damaged two cell phones. That's wrong, but let's keep things in perspective. And he's paying a significant price for his behavior.

He did more than that..come on. If he had done just that, he wouldn't be going to court, and he wouldn't be suspended from the team.

[sirthought]

He did more than that..come on. If he had done just that, he wouldn't be going to court, and he wouldn't be suspended from the team.

What else did he do? I'm not saying you're wrong, but please enlighten us for those who don't know.

I heard he flipped out angry at least twice in a public setting, both times he smashed a cell phone on the ground and once punched a car. I'd say it was an immature kid who didn't handle himself well and probably frightened people needlessly. I'm sure he intimidated her physically but I heard nothing of attack. All things that could blow up in a very bad way (and have for him) but in the long run shouldn't completely derail his life more than it has.

He should pay for the damage done to personal property and stay the hell away from this person. Beyond that, get some personal counseling to talk it all out and learn about dealing with rejection better. I know I've had some less than shining moments in that area.

[Xpectations]

He damaged two cell phones. That's wrong, but let's keep things in perspective. And he's paying a significant price for his behavior.

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[XUMIOH12]

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[GoMuskies]

3rd base!

[xukeith]

I'I genuinely shocked he hasn't resolved this case, publicly / privately apologized to everyone, and begged forgiveness

He should have done that BUT I bet his attorney told him not to make any public comments. Plead innocence and get a nice judge or agree to settle for community service.

Get ready for "thug" or "stalker" or "phone breaker" chants by other schools.