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Juice
10-29-2016, 06:33 PM
He should have done that BUT I bet his attorney told him not to make any public comments. Plead innocence and get a nice judge or agree to settle for community service.
Get ready for "thug" or "stalker" or "phone breaker" chants by other schools.
He wouldn't want to make comments to the family either publicly or privately for several reasons. One, it would violate his protection order. Two, those statements could be used against him at trial if there is one.
Also, whether he pleads guilty to one or both of those charges, or even gets diversion, his punishment will be exactly the same. He will get probation, stay away order from her and her family (which is redundant because of the protection order), pay restitution for the phones, don't pick up any new charges, fines, court costs, and maybe some community service. And maybe random drug and alcohol tests through diversion. These are all standard things required during both probation and diversion.
Mack Attack
11-03-2016, 12:39 PM
http://http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/11/03/myles-davis-attorney-we-plan-resolve-case/93235144/
This looks like good news. But I'm not sure what Bennett is talking about him being a teenager. It's been a few since Myles was a teenager.
blueblob06
11-03-2016, 12:51 PM
http://http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/11/03/myles-davis-attorney-we-plan-resolve-case/93235144/
This looks like good news. But I'm not sure what Bennett is talking about him being a teenager. It's been a few since Myles was a teenager.
Good deal. Hopefully this is all behind us soon! This might be too optimistic but we could really use Myles in the Florida tourney which starts 2 weeks from today!
surfxu
11-03-2016, 01:15 PM
Agreed. This would be a huge benefit to have Myles back. This was one issue preventing him to be a part of the team, but I think the other issue is that he's got to be back to school. I'm not sure that he's actually on campus or enrolled with classes. I say that because I have no idea. I thought I heard he was back in New Jersey or something at some point. I guess if he's in classes and gets this thing resolved then he's got the possibility to return.
AviatorX
11-03-2016, 01:18 PM
Good deal. Hopefully this is all behind us soon! This might be too optimistic but we could really use Myles in the Florida tourney which starts 2 weeks from today!
Wouldn't hold your breath.
Juice
11-03-2016, 02:00 PM
I would anticipate Myles pleading to a Disorderly Conduct or one of Criminal Damaging charges. As far as his sentence goes, it won't matter what he pleas to. He will get probation, ordered to pay restitution, and ordered to stay away from the victim and her family. That's all standard in a case like this with Myles' lack of record.
surfxu
11-03-2016, 02:38 PM
Based on the information in the article, it sounds like Myles is going to pay for the cell phones and any other damages and the case is going to be dropped. Doesn't sound like it's going to make it back to court. It will all get dismissed. At least that's the way I read it.
Jehoya
11-03-2016, 03:05 PM
Agreed. This would be a huge benefit to have Myles back. This was one issue preventing him to be a part of the team, but I think the other issue is that he's got to be back to school. I'm not sure that he's actually on campus or enrolled with classes. I say that because I have no idea. I thought I heard he was back in New Jersey or something at some point. I guess if he's in classes and gets this thing resolved then he's got the possibility to return.
From my sources, Myles snapchat, he is and has been in New Jersey for some time. All of his post have been in NJ.
Juice
11-03-2016, 03:05 PM
Based on the information in the article, it sounds like Myles is going to pay for the cell phones and any other damages and the case is going to be dropped. Doesn't sound like it's going to make it back to court. It will all get dismissed. At least that's the way I read it.
It won't be dismissed unless the victim doesn't show or specifically requests for the charges to be dismissed.
TUclutch
11-05-2016, 01:35 AM
From what my friends on campus have said, he is not on campus or in classes. Im pretty confident in saying he will be back, but it will be after the first semester of classes officially ends.
mid major
11-05-2016, 03:40 AM
I may have been drunk but I thought someone had mentioned he was enrolled in grad school but not on campus. Don't take my word for it, though.
I may have been drunk but I thought someone had mentioned he was enrolled in grad school but not on campus. Don't take my word for it, though.
I think that was just speculated as a possibility.
AviatorX
11-05-2016, 11:13 AM
From what my friends on campus have said, he is not on campus or in classes. Im pretty confident in saying he will be back, but it will be after the first semester of classes officially ends.
Hopefully it's at the end of first semester, not the beginning of second semester. That's a big swing. I think Pierre from UD might have been in a similar situation in regards to not attending class in the Fall/being eligible, and I believe he was good to go after first semester ended.
LA Muskie
11-05-2016, 01:07 PM
If he is enrolled in classes (and bear in mind he could be taking paper/online/remote classes since he graduated), he would be eligible for NCAA purposes at any point, and would continue to be eligible into the 2nd semester so long as he got the necessary grades. If he isn't enrolled in 1st semester classes, he would not be NCAA eligible until the later of (i) formal conclusion of the 1st semester (which I believe is when grades are announced), and (ii) enrollment for 2nd semester.
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AviatorX
11-05-2016, 01:21 PM
If he is enrolled in classes (and bear in mind he could be taking paper/online/remote classes since he graduated), he would be eligible for NCAA purposes at any point, and would continue to be eligible into the 2nd semester so long as he got the necessary grades. If he isn't enrolled in 1st semester classes, he would not be NCAA eligible until the later of (i) formal conclusion of the 1st semester (which I believe is when grades are announced), and (ii) enrollment for 2nd semester.
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Forgive my ignorance, but both i and ii would be sooner than the actual start of 2nd semester classes, correct?
paulxu
11-05-2016, 02:14 PM
If he was at Chapel Hill, he could enroll in classes and just not take them.
LA Muskie
11-06-2016, 11:18 AM
Forgive my ignorance, but both i and ii would be sooner than the actual start of 2nd semester classes, correct?
For NCAA purposes, yes. Just like fall sports often start before 1st semester classes begin. Freshmen are nevertheless still eligible.
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Juice
11-10-2016, 09:59 AM
Myles pled to a Disorderly Conduct M4 today on one charges and the other was dismissed. He got fines and court costs as a sentence.
Nice to put that part behind us.
Juice
11-10-2016, 11:20 AM
This was a really good deal for Myles, especially since he's not on probation.
This was a really good deal for Myles, especially since he's not on probation.
Honestly, I didn't even catch that and just assumed it would come with the deal. Hope he stays smart regardless.
Juice
11-10-2016, 11:32 AM
Honestly, I didn't even catch that and just assumed it would come with the deal. Hope he stays smart regardless.
I did too but my understanding is that he was proactive paying her back and taking some classes ahead of the resolution of this case. Things that would have been ordered through probation.
bobbiemcgee
11-10-2016, 11:36 AM
So he'll play against Lehigh? lol
XU 87
11-10-2016, 11:40 AM
This was a really good deal for Myles, especially since he's not on probation.
And he can wait a year and get the conviction expunged, assuming he has no other convictions and doesn't get into anymore trouble.
ReturnOfTheMack
11-10-2016, 11:51 AM
Obviously resolving the legal issue was the first step in his reinstatement. I think the staff will be satisfied with this outcome and barring any missteps in the next six weeks or so he will be back on the team at the conclusion of the first semester. The percolating question is still when exactly he would be able to participate; the end of the first semester or the beginning of the second? It's been widely speculated on this board but at this point it's conjecture. Rick and Brian don't even seem to have a solid answer yet.
XUMIOH12
11-10-2016, 12:05 PM
Obviously resolving the legal issue was the first step in his reinstatement. I think the staff will be satisfied with this outcome and barring any missteps in the next six weeks or so he will be back on the team at the conclusion of the first semester. The percolating question is still when exactly he would be able to participate; the end of the first semester or the beginning of the second? It's been widely speculated on this board but at this point it's conjecture. Rick and Brian don't even seem to have a solid answer yet.
does missing the entire first semester + have anything to do with the xavier student review board, or whatever the hell thats called? Is Xavier, as a school, the one seeming to impose this semester long suspension? Because, in my opinion, that punishment doesn't fit the crime at all.
ReturnOfTheMack
11-10-2016, 12:09 PM
does missing the entire first semester + have anything to do with the xavier student review board, or whatever the hell thats called? Is Xavier, as a school, the one seeming to impose this semester long suspension? Because, in my opinion, that punishment doesn't fit the crime at all.
From what I know, this isn't a university imposed issue. As a matter of fact, the student review board actually cleared him. He was not suspended from school, he simply chose not to enroll in classes this semester. Ostensibly, he did this to go home and "clear his head" and get the legal issues resolved and then hopefully rejoin the the basketball program.
SemajParlor
11-10-2016, 12:12 PM
From what I know, this isn't a university imposed issue. As a matter of fact, the student review board actually cleared him. He was not suspended from school, he simply chose not to enroll in classes this semester. Ostensibly, he did this to go home and "clear his head" and get the legal issues resolved and then hopefully rejoin the the basketball program.
So I'll be that guy... what's the hold up here?
SC in DC
11-10-2016, 12:17 PM
How can you play for the team if you are not enrolled in class? Did he do this to himself? Couldn't he be playing now if he was enrolled?
AviatorX
11-10-2016, 12:26 PM
How can you play for the team if you are not enrolled in class? Did he do this to himself? Couldn't he be playing now if he was enrolled?
He's not going to play for the team while not enrolled, thus the end of first semester date/speculation. You would assume Mack and co. advised Myles through the decision not to enroll and it wasn't completely his own out of the blue decision. Basically, I'm guessing that even if he were enrolled right now, the suspension wouldn't automatically be lifted bc the legal side of things appears to be resolved.
Obviously I could be wrong here.
I did too but my understanding is that he was proactive paying her back and taking some classes ahead of the resolution of this case. Things that would have been ordered through probation.
Sounds like he was getting good advice. I hope he continues to follow it, and that's not just for basketball reasons.
birdman71
11-10-2016, 01:53 PM
I am guessing that he would be eligible at the end of the first semester as opposed to the start of the second, if he is enrolled for second semester. It seems to me that otherwise freshmen football players couldn't play until their classes actually start.
Obviously resolving the legal issue was the first step in his reinstatement. I think the staff will be satisfied with this outcome and barring any missteps in the next six weeks or so he will be back on the team at the conclusion of the first semester. The percolating question is still when exactly he would be able to participate; the end of the first semester or the beginning of the second? It's been widely speculated on this board but at this point it's conjecture. Rick and Brian don't even seem to have a solid answer yet.
ReturnOfTheMack
11-10-2016, 02:36 PM
I am guessing that he would be eligible at the end of the first semester as opposed to the start of the second, if he is enrolled for second semester. It seems to me that otherwise freshmen football players couldn't play until their classes actually start.
I'm inclined to think that as well. However, that's purely from an NCAA eligibility perspective. The actual lifting of the suspension will be determined by Mack and it could be as early as the conclusion of the first semester as stated, or, it could be whenever the hell Mack chooses. At this point it would certainly appear that reinstatement would occur as soon as possible so you would think that it would be late December as opposed to early January when the second semester commences.
PM Thor
11-10-2016, 02:45 PM
Wait a second, if he wasn't enrolled in school, then is he really suspended? What I'm getting at here is that if he's not in school, then does he lose that semester of eligibility? I would think not.
SkyWalker
11-10-2016, 02:45 PM
It does not appear that there is concensus on when Myles will be eligible to play. Does anyone know when he can return practice?
GreatWhiteNorth
11-10-2016, 03:56 PM
It does not appear that there is concensus on when Myles will be eligible to play. Does anyone know when he can return practice?
Yes, that's what I want to know. Anybody?
XUMIOH12
11-10-2016, 04:01 PM
so is he for sure not enrolled in classes this semester? I just don't get why he wouldn't be, since that pretty much means he knew he would at least miss the first semester, and i'm sure wants to play asap.
In my mind, his case is complete and he is all set on that, at this point, the season hasn't even started, yet he still may miss the entire first semester. Just doesn't make any sense.
so is he for sure not enrolled in classes this semester? I just don't get why he wouldn't be, since that pretty much means he knew he would at least miss the first semester, and i'm sure wants to play asap.
In my mind, his case is complete and he is all set on that, at this point, the season hasn't even started, yet he still may miss the entire first semester. Just doesn't make any sense.
That may be because we don't have all the information. He was proactive in taking the steps that would be required to resolve the case and avoid probation, so he was getting good advice on that front. I doubt he just forgot to enroll in classes. This may have been determined in discussions with Mack. But I doubt we'll ever really know.
paulxu
11-10-2016, 04:16 PM
Wait a second, if he wasn't enrolled in school, then is he really suspended? What I'm getting at here is that if he's not in school, then does he lose that semester of eligibility? I would think not.
Myles for OOC play in 2017! Air 5's all around.
SemajParlor
11-10-2016, 04:18 PM
Can someone who's been following and is more knowledgeable than me -
Myles is cleared by school and legally. Is his only road block now to play basketball this season Chris Mack and XU Basketball?
Can someone who's been following and is more knowledgeable than me -
Myles is cleared by school and legally. Is his only road block now to play basketball this season Chris Mack and XU Basketball?
That, and he has to be enrolled as a student, which apparently he is not. The question is when can he start? As soon as 1st semester ends and he signs up for classes, or when classes begin. At least, that's the way I understand it.
SemajParlor
11-10-2016, 04:47 PM
That, and he has to be enrolled as a student, which apparently he is not. The question is when can he start? As soon as 1st semester ends and he signs up for classes, or when classes begin. At least, that's the way I understand it.
Would love to understand the rationale as to why he's not enrolled as a student. Curious if he was advised by XU bball to do this. For all intents and purposes that would be suspending him a semester for misdemeanor.
Muskie
11-10-2016, 04:49 PM
Maybe he needed the semester off to get away from the situation? People handle these types of cases differently.
SemajParlor
11-10-2016, 04:50 PM
Maybe he needed the semester off to get away from the situation? People handle these types of cases differently.
Very true. I'm not knocking him or XU bball. Just curious
ReturnOfTheMack
11-10-2016, 05:00 PM
Wait a second, if he wasn't enrolled in school, then is he really suspended? What I'm getting at here is that if he's not in school, then does he lose that semester of eligibility? I would think not.
He does lose that semester of eligibility because you have to exhaust four years of eligibility within five calendar years. Those five calendar years will have expired by August of 2017.
ReturnOfTheMack
11-10-2016, 05:05 PM
It does not appear that there is concensus on when Myles will be eligible to play. Does anyone know when he can return practice?
He is not enrolled in school this semester. Therefore, per the NCAA, he cannot participate in any basketball activity during this semester. Assuming the coaching staff tells him that they will reinstate him after the semester because his issues are resolved, and assuming he enrolls for second semester classes (he will), he will be eligible to begin participating upon conclusion of the first semester.
ReturnOfTheMack
11-10-2016, 05:08 PM
That, and he has to be enrolled as a student, which apparently he is not. The question is when can he start? As soon as 1st semester ends and he signs up for classes, or when classes begin. At least, that's the way I understand it.
As soon as first semester concludes. The Dyshawn Pierre situation at UD is nearly the exact same, although the allegations he faced were much worse. Pierre was suspended and not enrolled in school for the first semester. He obviously was cleared, rejoined the program, and began playing at the end of December once the first semester ended.
AviatorX
11-10-2016, 05:41 PM
Would love to understand the rationale as to why he's not enrolled as a student. Curious if he was advised by XU bball to do this. For all intents and purposes that would be suspending him a semester for misdemeanor.
Speculating but I think something else happened that added to the situation -- not necessarily the legal situation but when you look at the timeline of when the charges went public and the suspension, it sure seems to me like something else happened where Mack drew the line.
XUFan09
11-10-2016, 05:48 PM
Speculating but I think something else happened that added to the situation -- not necessarily the legal situation but when you look at the timeline of when the charges went public and the suspension, it sure seems to me like something else happened where Mack drew the line.
Yup.
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XUMIOH12
11-10-2016, 06:04 PM
so i'm assuming he'll be back for the WF game then
ReturnOfTheMack
11-10-2016, 06:44 PM
so i'm assuming he'll be back for the WF game then
At the earliest. Even he's reinstated by then, you have to remember, he would only have a practice or two under his belt. If he were to play at all his minutes would certainly be limited. I'd think he'd be gradually reintegrated into the lineup and maybe by conference play he'd be back to his usual run.
gladdenguy
11-10-2016, 09:26 PM
Myles being available for the Wake Forest game would be great. I agree that he won't have many practices under his belt, but this would be much better than getting him back after the St. Johns game when 2nd semester starts. I will be glad when we hear a definite date to expect Myles back.
Juice
11-10-2016, 09:40 PM
so i'm assuming he'll be back for the WF game then
I think that's the prevailing theory but there is no definitive answer I don't think.
SemajParlor
11-10-2016, 10:44 PM
Speculating but I think something else happened that added to the situation -- not necessarily the legal situation but when you look at the timeline of when the charges went public and the suspension, it sure seems to me like something else happened where Mack drew the line.
Good point. As a senior and someone who won team character awards, a suspension is not exactly a "teaching moment."
Teaching moments can be valuable in life, which is more important than basketball. While I obviously wish this had never happened, maybe he needed this? That's one of the things I love about X. Not perfect, but we try hard. Anyway, here we are!
AviatorX
11-10-2016, 11:10 PM
Teaching moments can be valuable in life, which is more important than basketball. While I obviously wish this had never happened, maybe he needed this? That's one of the things I love about X. Not perfect, but we try hard. Anyway, here we are!
Agreed -- I think that's what SemajParlor was getting after also, that this wasn't a "teaching moment" (i.e.: the classic indefinite suspension during a time when the team can't practice and isn't playing games) but a real suspension for an accumulation of reasons.
Strange Brew
11-10-2016, 11:39 PM
Alright Myles, pick your classes and get back to work.
Alright Myles, pick your classes and get back to work.
Coming back in basketball shape is critical! I heard he's working out like Rocky in the deep snow somewhere in Russia. (But that may have just been one of those little voices in my head.)
Strange Brew
11-10-2016, 11:55 PM
Coming back in basketball shape is critical! I heard he's working out like Rocky in the deep snow somewhere in Russia. (But that may have just been one of those little voices in my head.)
He needs the greatest montage of all time!
https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=A0LEVx35TiVYHBQAP_1XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEya HZjYzhtBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjE4NzlfMQRzZWM Dc2M-?p=Rocky+4+Montage&fr=mcafee#id=1&vid=8b18e93e18f77e6b308f0da893aef254&action=view
GoMuskies
11-11-2016, 12:25 AM
I heard he's working out like Rocky in the deep snow somewhere in Russia.
He's been working for the Trump campaign? Surprising.
Strange Brew
11-11-2016, 12:27 AM
He's been working for the Trump campaign? Surprising.
Hmm, schlepping uranium for State is a great workout.
sirthought
11-17-2016, 06:00 PM
Several guys here have said Davis needs to come back ASAP. Does anyone know this:
Regardless of what Mack's punishment/conditions-for-return might have been, is Davis eligible if he's not on campus and enrolled full time?
Someone here wrote he's taking classes online, but I've not heard anything official in that regard. Mack might also have just said privately he's not allowed back until the next term.
It sounds like Davis has done what he has to do to move on from his problems, but if he's not in classes on campus, I'd be surprised if he comes back any earlier than when the next term begins.
The team really misses him in every regard.
Harryfe
11-17-2016, 06:14 PM
Chris or Myles are not officially saying anything but the unofficial word he will be back in December. Not sure at end or beginning of Semester. I am in Orlando
Olsingledigit
11-17-2016, 09:25 PM
Chris or Myles are not officially saying anything but the unofficial word he will be back in December. Not sure at end or beginning of Semester. I am in Orlando
You seem to turn that hearing aid up when you are at these tournaments. Good sleuthing Harryfe
bobbiemcgee
11-24-2016, 07:15 PM
Maybe we should start a poll:
http://www.xavier.edu/registrar/calendars/Academic-Calendar-2016-2017.cfm
XfansinKy
11-25-2016, 07:06 AM
Would like to have him back because I feel like he's helped this team get to what may be the best season ever for Xavier basketball. With Sumner, JP, Bernard, Trevon's perimeter shooting, and Q being effective, he's not a necessity. I really hope Gates gets completely healthy as he seems to quietly, athletically, and smoothly do a little bit of everything. Not knocking Myles though. I would love to see him out there dropping threes from long range and being the leader he is on the floor.
bleedXblue
11-25-2016, 09:26 AM
Would like to have him back because I feel like he's helped this team get to what may be the best season ever for Xavier basketball. With Sumner, JP, Bernard, Trevon's perimeter shooting, and Q being effective, he's not a necessity. I really hope Gates gets completely healthy as he seems to quietly, athletically, and smoothly do a little bit of everything. Not knocking Myles though. I would love to see him out there dropping threes from long range and being the leader he is on the floor.
I disagree, I think he is a necessity if Xavier is going to have a special year. We're struggling in two areas right now. 3 PT shooting and taking care of the ball late in games. Myles would help immensely with both.
mistabeecee41
11-25-2016, 10:25 AM
I disagree, I think he is a necessity if Xavier is going to have a special year. We're struggling in two areas right now. 3 PT shooting and taking care of the ball late in games. Myles would help immensely with both.
i also think people tend to forget that Myles always seemed to be the guy who hit a big shot when we needed one.
markchal
11-25-2016, 10:27 AM
I disagree, I think he is a necessity if Xavier is going to have a special year. We're struggling in two areas right now. 3 PT shooting and taking care of the ball late in games. Myles would help immensely with both.
Couldn't agree more. our 3pt shooting is shaky at best and having myles to consistently be an outside threat (Sumner and Q are pretty unreliable shooters) would really open up the offense even more and his experience cannot be understated. We've always been led by seniors, and that's the role we're missing most.
UCGRAD4X
11-25-2016, 11:50 AM
"Better to have him and not need him than need him and not have him."
The only real 'down side' I could see would be in consideration of whomever's PT he might be taking, and if the further development of one of our younger players (Q?) might suffer as a result. Quentin is going to be a very important piece next year.
Olsingledigit
11-25-2016, 12:26 PM
"Better to have him and not need him than need him and not have him."
The only real 'down side' I could see would be in consideration of whomever's PT he might be taking, and if the further development of one of our younger players (Q?) might suffer as a result. Quentin is going to be a very important piece next year.
Let's say he was already on the team since the beginning of the season. Would you bench him and give his minutes to Q? I doubt it. We are playing this season not next season. Plenty of time to worry about next season after this one is over hopefully not until April. And there will likely be plenty to worry about for next season.
xubrew
11-25-2016, 12:55 PM
You have five years to play four seasons. If his clock started in 2012 (meaning, he was enrolled as a full time college student) then this is it. He would need a hardship waiver or a medical waiver to get another year on his clock, and he does not qualify for that. I'm not sure if he was enrolled anywhere or not, though.
bobbiemcgee
11-25-2016, 12:55 PM
Myles is "money" from the ft line in late game situations. Wouldn't have to hold my breath like I do now.:shocked::shocked:
Myles is "money" from the ft line in late game situations. Wouldn't have to hold my breath like I do now.:shocked::shocked:
It would be nice to have an option not named Trevon or JP that didn't turn my stomach inside out. They are the only 2 I really trust at this point.
Harryfe
11-25-2016, 08:17 PM
You have five years to play four seasons. If his clock started in 2012 (meaning, he was enrolled as a full time college student) then this is it. He would need a hardship waiver or a medical waiver to get another year on his clock, and he does not qualify for that. I'm not sure if he was enrolled anywhere or not, though.
I understand Myles is taking classes but not at X. If he and CM agree he will be back sometime between semesters, but not sure at end of first or beginning of 2nd.
Thor in 204
11-26-2016, 05:19 PM
I think this is one of the strangest situations in XUBB in my decades of following it. Today at the game I heard that he will likely be back in mid January, as told to me by someone quoting a XUBB icon close to the team. The silence about it is odd, imho.
I think this is one of the strangest situations in XUBB in my decades of following it. Today at the game I heard that he will likely be back in mid January, as told to me by someone quoting a XUBB icon close to the team. The silence about it is odd, imho.
I think any time it's related to personal player situations you're likely to hear a lot of silence.
vee4xu
11-26-2016, 09:39 PM
I think any time it's related to personal player situations you're likely to hear a lot of silence.
Hearing silence sounds rather existential. Also, eerily similar to a Simon and Garfunkel song. :smile:
Hearing silence sounds rather existential. Also, eerily similar to a Simon and Garfunkel song. :smile:
I cooked this weekend with parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme....
xudash
11-26-2016, 09:55 PM
Hearing silence sounds rather existential. Also, eerily similar to a Simon and Garfunkel song. :smile:
I crossed a bridge over troubled water.
Olsingledigit
11-26-2016, 10:18 PM
I have one word for you - Myles!
D-West & PO-Z
11-26-2016, 11:09 PM
I think this is one of the strangest situations in XUBB in my decades of following it. Today at the game I heard that he will likely be back in mid January, as told to me by someone quoting a XUBB icon close to the team. The silence about it is odd, imho.
1/9 is the start of second semester. Any later than that would be odd to me and seem to be a continued suspension decision by Mack. Maybe he isnt eligible to return until the 9th and Mack imposes an additional suspension once eligible? Who knows? I agree its strange. The strange part to me isnt necessarily the silence on the situation but more that I have not heard a single person definitively be able to say the rule for when he would be eligible from an NCAA standpoint as it relates to being in classes for 2nd semester.
bleedXblue
11-27-2016, 09:16 AM
1/9 is the start of second semester. Any later than that would be odd to me and seem to be a continued suspension decision by Mack. Maybe he isnt eligible to return until the 9th and Mack imposes an additional suspension once eligible? Who knows? I agree its strange. The strange part to me isnt necessarily the silence on the situation but more that I have not heard a single person definitively be able to say the rule for when he would be eligible from an NCAA standpoint as it relates to being in classes for 2nd semester.
Yeah, my guess would be if he's enrolled at X for second semester, he should be able to play. I cant imagine a continued suspension beyond that. It may be simply that one of the conditions for reinstatement hasn't been met yet. Did he get any kind of community service as part of the plea deal?
Juice
11-27-2016, 10:35 AM
Yeah, my guess would be if he's enrolled at X for second semester, he should be able to play. I cant imagine a continued suspension beyond that. It may be simply that one of the conditions for reinstatement hasn't been met yet. Did he get any kind of community service as part of the plea deal?
No. Just Court costs and fines. No probation or any other requirement so everything is done as far as his charges in Hamilton County are concerned.
kellernr
11-27-2016, 12:13 PM
He will be back in 2016.
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SemajParlor
11-28-2016, 11:51 AM
He will be back in 2016.
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Care to expand?
kellernr
11-28-2016, 12:02 PM
Care to expand?
Just what I've been hearing.
GoMuskies
11-28-2016, 12:15 PM
Care to expand?
HEEEEEEEE WILLLL BEEEEEEE BAAAAAACK IIIIIIIN TWEEEEEENTY SIIIIIIIIIIXTEEEEEEEN
Sorry, movie humor. Cannot remember the flick right now, though. I'm getting old (Trading Places maybe?)
X-band '01
11-28-2016, 12:59 PM
I thought it was TV humor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39k067hcgYY
paulxu
11-28-2016, 02:09 PM
HEEEEEEEE WILLLL BEEEEEEE BAAAAAACK IIIIIIIN TWEEEEEENTY SIIIIIIIIIIXTEEEEEEEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2Q0cyJSs04
vee4xu
11-28-2016, 08:50 PM
I crossed a bridge over troubled water.
I was either right in front of or behind you when you did so.
I was either right in front of or behind you when you did so.
I fell in, but scrambled to the shore...
pimpinthebox
11-30-2016, 11:11 AM
BIG props on the Taxi reference, XBand. One of the best scenes in TV history.
mistabeecee41
11-30-2016, 01:00 PM
Back to the topic at hand. When (if, just covering myself to make sure I don't jinx anything) - I feel like Myles HAS to come off of the bench. Aside from the fact that he will have to get back into the swing of things, I like Bernard playing with the starters. Ed/Tre/JP can score whenever they want, Sean is getting more comfortable in the post - I'd much rather have the "glue guy" playing with the starters.
Can you imagine our bench with Q, Myles, Kaiser, Tyrique and Gaston?
pimpinthebox
11-30-2016, 01:09 PM
On a related note (to the actual title of the thread, that is). A few things on the Myles situation:
What we think we know...
1. His legal proceedings are essentially wrapped up. Thanks be to God.
2. We're hearing on "good" authority that he'll be back at the end of the first semester in time for the Wake game in two and a half weeks (12/17).
What we are safely assuming...
1. That the staff has taken the necessary steps with the university, the NCAA, etc to get Myles enrolled in school, eligible, etc. when they deem it so.
2. While not allowed to have him in practice or individual workouts, that the staff has given Myles marching orders to do whatever.
3. When he does come back, he'll spell the guards and wings from logging 35+ per game.
What we don't know...
1. Aside from the courtroom, where has he been? I doubt he's going to found near the Cintas Center or even O'Connor? There's been no reports of seeing him so is he back in his hometown working out?
2. Has he stuck to the orders, stayed in shape, improved his game, etc?
Not necessarily looking for answers here. Just curious to know if everyone is on the same page as me.
ReturnOfTheMack
11-30-2016, 01:47 PM
On a related note (to the actual title of the thread, that is). A few things on the Myles situation:
...
2. Has he stuck to the orders, stayed in shape, improved his game, etc?
Not necessarily looking for answers here. Just curious to know if everyone is on the same page as me.
From what I've heard, Myles has been given "conditioning goals" by the staff that he must reach before rejoining the team, or at least getting game minutes. I would think it's safe to assume that even if he's reinstated as early as we think/hope (Dec. 17) he's not going to step right into the Wake game and play 25 minutes. I'd expect a gradual reintegration into Mack's rotations and hopefully by Big East play he's back in full swing.
D-West & PO-Z
11-30-2016, 01:48 PM
On a related note (to the actual title of the thread, that is). A few things on the Myles situation:
What we think we know...
1. His legal proceedings are essentially wrapped up. Thanks be to God.
2. We're hearing on "good" authority that he'll be back at the end of the first semester in time for the Wake game in two and a half weeks (12/17).
What we are safely assuming...
1. That the staff has taken the necessary steps with the university, the NCAA, etc to get Myles enrolled in school, eligible, etc. when they deem it so.
2. While not allowed to have him in practice or individual workouts, that the staff has given Myles marching orders to do whatever.
3. When he does come back, he'll spell the guards and wings from logging 35+ per game.
What we don't know...
1. Aside from the courtroom, where has he been? I doubt he's going to found near the Cintas Center or even O'Connor? There's been no reports of seeing him so is he back in his hometown working out?
2. Has he stuck to the orders, stayed in shape, improved his game, etc?
Not necessarily looking for answers here. Just curious to know if everyone is on the same page as me.
What I am not on same page is the bolded above. I have not seen anyone who has been able to say with any certainty when he would be eligible to return. A recent previous post said they heard from reliable sources he would be eligible in mid January (which really makes no sense) and others have said at the conclusion of first semester and others have said at start of 2nd semester. This point I think is very much in the "What we dont know" category.
Here are key dates on the XU academic calendar:
12/16: Last Day of Fall Semester
12/20: Final Grades Due
1/9/17: Full term classes begin
So one would assume he would be eligible (as long as he is enrolled for 2nd semester classes) at one of those dates. Now which one I have not seen anyone definitively said.
On top of that has Mack decided Myles will be back playing as soon as eligible by NCAA rules? Or has Mack laid out other guidelines Myles has to/had to follow through on? Has Mack decided to add any other type of suspension? We dont think so but we really dont know.
xufan2434
11-30-2016, 01:55 PM
This thread gives me anxiety
XUMIOH12
11-30-2016, 02:21 PM
hes already been punished way more than hes deserved with this
muskiefan82
11-30-2016, 02:23 PM
What I know:
1. Myles is not currently playing
2. His free throw shooting late in games would be nice
What I don't know:
1. If or when he will return'
2. How much he will be able to play when/if he returns
3. If his presence will change the way the current team has come together.
pimpinthebox
11-30-2016, 02:32 PM
What I am not on same page is the bolded above. I have not seen anyone who has been able to say with any certainty when he would be eligible to return. A recent previous post said they heard from reliable sources he would be eligible in mid January (which really makes no sense) and others have said at the conclusion of first semester and others have said at start of 2nd semester. This point I think is very much in the "What we dont know" category.
Here are key dates on the XU academic calendar:
12/16: Last Day of Fall Semester
12/20: Final Grades Due
1/9/17: Full term classes begin
So one would assume he would be eligible (as long as he is enrolled for 2nd semester classes) at one of those dates. Now which one I have not seen anyone definitively said.
On top of that has Mack decided Myles will be back playing as soon as eligible by NCAA rules? Or has Mack laid out other guidelines Myles has to/had to follow through on? Has Mack decided to add any other type of suspension? We dont think so but we really dont know.
Fair enough on which category that one falls under. Of course, nothing is definitive, nor should it be. Mack doesn't discuss his game plan on his radio show nor does he let his opponents in on who is in or out of the lineup for whatever reason. Regardless, I think we all feel fairly confident that Myles' return is imminent and will come at such a time that he will be able to ramp up and actually contribute (unless the reason they bring him back is to just let him play things out, but I don't feel like that's the only goal here). Bottom line, the formalities are all but out of the way, internal decisions have been made as to when and under what conditions Myles can return, and so long as he doesn't fk up again (another item to be filed under "what we're safely assuming"), he'll be back in due time. So again, what we really don't know is where's he been and how's he looking. And again, not really looking for an answer. Just need to have faith that he'll return as the old Myles.
pimpinthebox
11-30-2016, 02:38 PM
What I know:
1. Myles is not currently playing
2. His free throw shooting late in games would be nice
What I don't know:
1. If or when he will return'
2. How much he will be able to play when/if he returns
3. If his presence will change the way the current team has come together.
"1. If or when he will return" --> That's up to him, but let's say that he does.
"2. How much he will be able to play when/if he returns" --> Fair. Anybody's guess.
"3. If his presence will change the way the current team has come together." --> Certainly will. It's not like X has been perfect. Lots of room for improvement and minutes to cut into that will help in the long run.
SC in DC
11-30-2016, 02:45 PM
Based on those dates and assuming he is back ASAP for the 2nd semester, that would be either the Wake game (12/17)or the Nova game (Jan 10), depending on how "they" define 2nd semester.
MADXSTER
11-30-2016, 04:41 PM
I would think the 12/17 date would be the one. I say this because soccer, basketball and football players start practicing in the summer long before the first day of school. Also soccer usually has a game or two prior to classes starting. This would make me think that as long as you are enrolled, you should be good to go. Just a thought.
SkyWalker
11-30-2016, 05:10 PM
What I know:
1. Myles is not currently playing
2. His free throw shooting late in games would be nice
What I don't know:
1. If or when he will return'
2. How much he will be able to play when/if he returns
3. If his presence will change the way the current team has come together.
I thought you were capable of predicting the future; or is that just scores?
muskiefan82
11-30-2016, 05:12 PM
That's easy. I predict that Myles will return this season.
XMuskieFTW
11-30-2016, 05:29 PM
Anyone know when Ekiyor started practicing with the team last year or when he was allowed to? Was it over break or afterwards?
I would think the 12/17 date would be the one. I say this because soccer, basketball and football players start practicing in the summer long before the first day of school. Also soccer usually has a game or two prior to classes starting. This would make me think that as long as you are enrolled, you should be good to go. Just a thought.
That's how I looked at it as well, so here's hoping that's correct!
D-West & PO-Z
11-30-2016, 05:39 PM
I would think the 12/17 date would be the one. I say this because soccer, basketball and football players start practicing in the summer long before the first day of school. Also soccer usually has a game or two prior to classes starting. This would make me think that as long as you are enrolled, you should be good to go. Just a thought.
This would be my guess as well. Just frustrating we cant seem to get a confirmation.
letskeepitreal
11-30-2016, 08:01 PM
I would imagine that he would be eligible at the end of the first semester but he would have to practice and be good enough to contribute unless we have a blowout and he can get some game minutes. Hope he can get enough game time to make meaningful contributions by the time The Providence game happens.
letskeepitreal
11-30-2016, 08:04 PM
No sense having him on the floor unless it helps us. You gotta live in the mess you make. Playing D1 hoops is not an entitlement.
Harryfe
11-30-2016, 08:13 PM
This would be my guess as well. Just frustrating we cant seem to get a confirmation.
Chris suspended him INDEFINITELY. Chris has not made a statement that he will reinstate him. And Myles has made no comment that he wished to return. But I suppose if he definitely wasn't returning he would say so. The "word on the street " is that he will return. Since he is a 5th year senior, I suppose he could go anywhere else he wanted without sitting out. Does he still have a good relationship with X and the coaching staff? I'm sure he could go to almost any highly ranked program for his last semester of eligibility.
D-West & PO-Z
11-30-2016, 08:30 PM
No sense having him on the floor unless it helps us. You gotta live in the mess you make. Playing D1 hoops is not an entitlement.
Why would it not help us for him to be on the floor?
I think it gets overstated or overblown that he will need all this time to get back into shape and/or gel with the team. The guy is a 5th year senior who has been in the same program with the same coach all 5 of those years. He has arguably been the leader of the team the last 1-2 years. If he is allowed back and he comes back sure he will need some time to get into game shape, maybe learn some new things Mack has put in this year, but he will be a huge help.
D-West & PO-Z
11-30-2016, 08:31 PM
Chris suspended him INDEFINITELY. Chris has not made a statement that he will reinstate him. And Myles has made no comment that he wished to return. But I suppose if he definitely wasn't returning he would say so. The "word on the street " is that he will return. Since he is a 5th year senior, I suppose he could go anywhere else he wanted without sitting out. Does he still have a good relationship with X and the coaching staff? I'm sure he could go to almost any highly ranked program for his last semester of eligibility.
Can't remember but I feel like Mack has been quoted essentially implying Myles would be back.
XU 87
11-30-2016, 08:35 PM
No sense having him on the floor unless it helps us. You gotta live in the mess you make. Playing D1 hoops is not an entitlement.
"Myles, you've been here five years. You've been a major part of this team. You recently made some mistakes, but you have served your punishment, and we told you once you did so, you could come back. But unfortunately, we think we're playing better without you. So we don't want you back. Good luck with the rest of your life."
P.S. I think my above scenario would be absurd and isn't going to happen. I should have used the sarcasm font.
xukeith
11-30-2016, 08:55 PM
"Myles, you've been here five years. You've been a major part of this team. You recently made some mistakes, but you have served your punishment, and we told you once you did so, you could come back. But unfortunately, we think we're playing better without you. So we don't want you back. Good luck with the rest of your life."
PG foul trouble could result in administration to look other way and ask MD to come on aboard!
I think a few people are seeing this whole thing very differently than the way I see it.
Juice
11-30-2016, 09:58 PM
Holy shit, no one has said anything new in this thread in weeks. Here are the the topics covered ad nauseam:
1) The date he comes back. End of the first semester or beginning of second? No one knows.
2) Do we really need/want him back? If your answer isn't yes, you are a lunatic.
3) He may or may not be taking online classes. It doesn't matter as log as he is signed up for the 2nd semester.
Did I miss anything else?
XfansinKy
12-01-2016, 04:48 AM
If court dates are over, I think it's only fair to at least his teammates to know when it if he's coming back. It's getting crazy the way he seems to be held hostage. I want him back, but with Kaiser back they're good to go anyways.
UCGRAD4X
12-01-2016, 07:44 AM
Holy shit, no one has said anything new in this thread in weeks. Here are the the topics covered ad nauseam:
1) The date he comes back. End of the first semester or beginning of second? No one knows.
2) Do we really need/want him back? If your answer isn't yes, you are a lunatic.
3) He may or may not be taking online classes. It doesn't matter as log as he is signed up for the 2nd semester.
Did I miss anything else?
Speculation in leiu of facts is what this board is all about.:yawn:
...nearing 50,000 looks...
Smails
12-01-2016, 08:37 AM
My morning routines keep me sane...I don't do well when they are interrupted and I need to work on that, per my wife. Checking this thread when I log on to my machine has become part of my morning routine. I'm excited for the interruption of this routine...
STL_XUfan
12-01-2016, 08:46 AM
Speculation in leiu of facts is what this board is all about.:yawn:
...nearing 50,000 looks...
It isn't speculation, my source has it solid that all signs point to him being back:
http://www.sportsonearth.com/assets/images/5/4/6/85994546/cuts/Signs_Point_To_Yes_7mcqwypt_qs0ctt54.jpg
drudy23
12-01-2016, 09:00 AM
It isn't speculation, my source has it solid that all signs point to him being back:
http://www.sportsonearth.com/assets/images/5/4/6/85994546/cuts/Signs_Point_To_Yes_7mcqwypt_qs0ctt54.jpg
This pretty much guarantees we'll never see him again in a Xavier uniform.
paulxu
12-01-2016, 09:09 AM
Speculation in leiu of facts is what this board is all about.:yawn:
...nearing 50,000 looks...
Approaching the NSFW thread totals....
X-ceptional
12-01-2016, 09:11 AM
Man, I hate the off-season.
Wait...
XUFan09
12-01-2016, 09:54 AM
PG foul trouble could result in administration to look other way and ask MD to come on aboard!
What possibly could make you think that the administration needs to look the other way? That's not was is holding him back. If he's taking online classes, he could come back now, but Mack instituted the indefinite suspension. Mack will be the one that lifts it if he deems that to be appropriate.
XU 87
12-01-2016, 10:21 AM
PG foul trouble could result in administration to look other way and ask MD to come on aboard!
Is this a serious post, or did you mean to use the sarcasm font?
Is this a serious post, or did you mean to use the sarcasm font?
So you're in the camp that doesn't think the administration checks box scores (or magic eight balls) to make decisions for Coach Mack?
ammtd34
12-01-2016, 10:44 AM
So you're in the camp that doesn't think the administration checks box scores (or magic eight balls) to make decisions for Coach Mack?
Count me in that camp if you're keeping track.
Count me in that camp if you're keeping track.
I think we're going to need a pretty big campground. The other camp meets in a nearby phone booth, but they are very vocal.
UCGRAD4X
12-01-2016, 12:32 PM
Approaching the NSFW thread totals....
Wait...there's a NSFW thread?
Harryfe
12-01-2016, 12:41 PM
Holy shit, no one has said anything new in this thread in weeks. Here are the the topics covered ad nauseam:
1) The date he comes back. End of the first semester or beginning of second? No one knows.
2) Do we really need/want him back? If your answer isn't yes, you are a lunatic.
3) He may or may not be taking online classes. It doesn't matter as log as he is signed up for the 2nd semester.
Did I miss anything else?
I have been told he has been taking classes but not through X.
XUMIOH12
12-01-2016, 12:54 PM
What possibly could make you think that the administration needs to look the other way? That's not was is holding him back. If he's taking online classes, he could come back now, but Mack instituted the indefinite suspension. Mack will be the one that lifts it if he deems that to be appropriate.
Is this a serious post, or did you mean to use the sarcasm font?
pretty sure he was being sarcastic, just didn't use the proper font.
Juice
12-01-2016, 01:04 PM
I have been told he has been taking classes but not through X.
Ughhhhhhh, you're missing the point of my post. 1) It doesn't matter. 2) People have said the same shit about him taking classes (Yes...no...maybe...yes but online).
There's nothing left to be said until Xavier/Mack says something.
paulxu
12-01-2016, 01:05 PM
Wait...there's a NSFW thread?
You can become a supporting member and discover the answer to your question!
XUFan09
12-01-2016, 01:29 PM
pretty sure he was being sarcastic, just didn't use the proper font.
Don't underestimate Keith's ability to be self-righteous.
XUMIOH12
12-01-2016, 03:05 PM
What possibly could make you think that the administration needs to look the other way? That's not was is holding him back. If he's taking online classes, he could come back now, but Mack instituted the indefinite suspension. Mack will be the one that lifts it if he deems that to be appropriate.
Is this a serious post, or did you mean to use the sarcasm font?
Don't underestimate Keith's ability to be self-righteous.
fair point haha
XUMIOH12
12-01-2016, 03:06 PM
Ughhhhhhh, you're missing the point of my post. 1) It doesn't matter. 2) People have said the same shit about him taking classes (Yes...no...maybe...yes but online).
There's nothing left to be said until Xavier/Mack says something.
yeah at this point there is nothing to do except wait.....and hope he shows up on the 17th
bleedXblue
12-01-2016, 03:35 PM
Please Coach Mack come out with a public statement so that we can put this thread to rest.......
Xpectations
12-01-2016, 03:41 PM
fair point haha
Based on previously expressed opinions, I'd bet he was being serious.
xudash
12-01-2016, 04:30 PM
There will come a time when Myles is back in HIS Xavier uniform, raining three point baskets and winning games for Xavier.
That will make the last few pages of this thread, in particular, appear funny.
hummuskies
12-01-2016, 07:47 PM
FWIW. Chris Mack when asked if Myles is closer to returning to the team, "yes, he is."
XUGRAD80
12-01-2016, 07:54 PM
OT.....people in Cincy will get this
TXT of the night from CM...."Make traffic great again".
XUMIOH12
12-01-2016, 11:38 PM
FWIW. Chris Mack when asked if Myles is closer to returning to the team, "yes, he is."
he is closer to returning because it is continuously getting closer to the end of the first semester
X-ceptional
12-02-2016, 12:13 AM
he is closer to returning because it is continuously getting closer to the end of the first semester
Or is it because it is continuously getting closer to the beginning of the second semester? What do the past 400 posts say again?
Can't wait to hopefully get him back. His free throw shooting really took the stress out of some late game situations last year.
XUMIOH12
12-02-2016, 01:00 AM
Or is it because it is continuously getting closer to the beginning of the second semester? What do the past 400 posts say again?
either way it is continuously getting closer to his return haha
Snipe
12-02-2016, 01:19 AM
Myles Davis is my favorite player, and we will not be a contender until he comes in and gels with the team. It is great to play without him for a few bits, to let other guys get to chew, but if we are to make a Final Four, Myles Davis is the man on the mission.
xuwin
12-02-2016, 09:30 AM
Myles Davis is my favorite player, and we will not be a contender until he comes in and gels with the team. It is great to play without him for a few bits, to let other guys get to chew, but if we are to make a Final Four, Myles Davis is the man on the mission.
I agree. Myles was the glue that held the team together and hopefully he can return to that point.
GreatWhiteNorth
12-02-2016, 03:46 PM
Just let Myles shoot the FT, esp. at the end of a close game........it's money in the bank.
Just let Myles shoot the FT, esp. at the end of a close game........it's money in the bank.
Please don't type that jinx voodoo stuff right before he shoots. That's when the bank fails!
SemajParlor
12-06-2016, 11:16 AM
Nothing we haven't really heard / discussed already. This time it comes from Mack.
• Myles Davis update: Mack told The Enquirer Monday he's confident Davis will rejoin Xavier men's basketball, although the player is still suspended. Mack declined to comment on a specific timeline for Davis' return but said it would likely be closer to conference play.
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2016/12/06/xavier-back-road-face-colorado/95019418/
muskiefan82
12-06-2016, 11:20 AM
Every day is closer to conference play.
XUMIOH12
12-06-2016, 03:12 PM
Every day is closer to conference play.
thats right!
kellernr
12-06-2016, 03:39 PM
I think he will be back no later than the Eastern Washington game. Should be a good tune up game going into conference play. It will allow Myles to get out there and log some minutes against a weak opponent and see if he can knock some of the rust off. Its also possible he could be back for the Utah and Wake games. I haven't watched either of those teams yet this year but just from looking at their schedules they haven't beaten anyone I would consider to be good teams. That would give him 3 games to knock off the rust before conference play and he would get to do it at home in the Cintas Center.
xukeith
12-06-2016, 04:18 PM
I think he will be back no later than the Eastern Washington game. Should be a good tune up game going into conference play. It will allow Myles to get out there and log some minutes against a weak opponent and see if he can knock some of the rust off. Its also possible he could be back for the Utah and Wake games. I haven't watched either of those teams yet this year but just from looking at their schedules they haven't beaten anyone I would consider to be good teams. That would give him 3 games to knock off the rust before conference play and he would get to do it at home in the Cintas Center.
Key factor is when he will start practicing.
The more practice the better.
nuts4xu
12-06-2016, 04:36 PM
Key factor is when he will start practicing.
The more practice the better.
I agree. It would be great to see him start practicing the day first semester is over.
XUMIOH12
12-06-2016, 05:15 PM
I think he will be back no later than the Eastern Washington game. Should be a good tune up game going into conference play. It will allow Myles to get out there and log some minutes against a weak opponent and see if he can knock some of the rust off. Its also possible he could be back for the Utah and Wake games. I haven't watched either of those teams yet this year but just from looking at their schedules they haven't beaten anyone I would consider to be good teams. That would give him 3 games to knock off the rust before conference play and he would get to do it at home in the Cintas Center.
possibly back for the Utah game? i dont think anyone has speculated that yet haha. I dont see how that is possible at all. WF or later.
XUMIOH12
12-06-2016, 05:15 PM
I agree. It would be great to see him start practicing the day first semester is over.
how about at midnight the day finals are over?
paulxu
12-06-2016, 05:52 PM
https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder943/250x250/12133943.jpg
American X
12-28-2016, 12:28 PM
"I don't mean to be dismissive, but I've answered this over and over and over and over, so you can rewind whatever statements I've said the last time," Mack said. "When he's back, he'll be back, and, you know, that's it."
Except this is a dismissive non-answer, Coach.
Are you next going to tell us that 'Society' is not only keeping the players from hitting free throws but also keeping Myles Davis out?
Enquirer Article (http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/xaviersports/2016/12/27/xavier-set-big-east-opener/95882184/)
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