College Football 2016

[Masterofreality]

Oh, yeah it begins with this.

You know, all those Notre Dame Irish are choir boys. Great recruiting of quality humans Coach Kelly.

http://www.wndu.com/content/news/Notre-Dame-football-player-arrested-390783811.html

[Strange Brew]

Oh, yeah it begins with this.

You know, all those Notre Dame Irish are choir boys. Great recruiting of quality humans Coach Kelly.

http://www.wndu.com/content/news/Notre-Dame-football-player-arrested-390783811.html

Ugh, can't defend anything here. Too bad, Redfield and Coney have talent.

[GoMuskies]

The weed guys will be fine. The guy who decided to tackle a cop is probably done.

[xu82]

Five outta six ain't bad...

[GIMMFD]

86%, I like those odds!!

[xubrew]

The season has officially started. I know it was Cal v Hawaii, but it was a regular season game, and we are underway.

The FCS kicks off this afternoon with the least intriguing FCS Kickoff Game since they began doing the FCS Kickoff game.

Cal and Hawaii played in Australia. Most Americans don't realize this, but American Football really is slow and kind of boring to the rest of the world. Most of the time the clock is running the ball is not even in play. They spend close to 50 minutes of the 60 minute clock deciding what play to run next, and then getting ready to run the play. When the ball is in play, it's only for a few seconds at a time. In Australian Football, which really is A LOT of fun to watch, the ball is almost always in play, and play goes for minutes at a time without stopping. The fans at the game were probably bored stiff. But, it was a college football game, and it did count, and the season has begun!

[GIMMFD]

The season has officially started. I know it was Cal v Hawaii, but it was a regular season game, and we are underway.

The FCS kicks off this afternoon with the least intriguing FCS Kickoff Game since they began doing the FCS Kickoff game.

Cal and Hawaii played in Australia. Most Americans don't realize this, but American Football really is slow and kind of boring to the rest of the world. Most of the time the clock is running the ball is not even in play. They spend close to 50 minutes of the 60 minute clock deciding what play to run next, and then getting ready to run the play. When the ball is in play, it's only for a few seconds at a time. In Australian Football, which really is A LOT of fun to watch, the ball is almost always in play, and play goes for minutes at a time without stopping. The fans at the game were probably bored stiff. But, it was a college football game, and it did count, and the season has begun!

Isn't Australian football just rugby???

[Juice]

Isn't Australian football just rugby???

Similar but no, different sports.

[xubrew]

Isn't Australian football just rugby???

They are two completely different games. Aussie Football 22 players on the field for each team, and the field is about twice as big. In Rugby, you have to lateral the ball or kick it forward, but if you kick it forward everyone on your team has to be behind you when you when you do it. In Aussie football you can kick it or punch it to to a teammate who's down field and it's not offsides. Also in Aussie football you can't run more than fifteen yards without giving the ball up, which is why you see guys dribbling it as if it were a basketball every fifteen yards. In rugby, like in football, one player can run down the entire field if they want to. There are no kickoffs in Aussie football. After a score, it is basically a jump ball at midfield. And, the scoring is way different. In rugby, there is an endzone similar to football. In Aussie football, the idea is to kick it through the goal, and you can do so from any part of the field, so it's normal for both teams to score close to a hundred points because each goal is worth six points. If a defender touches the ball as it is going through the goal, or if the person trying to kick the goal misses to the right or left, it's called a behind, and is only worth one point.

And, in Aussie football, when the ball goes out of bounds, the referees just pretty much aimlessly just throw it back in. So, play never really stops until someone scores.

But, to the point, if someone is used to watching either rugby or aussie football, American football will probably seem incredibly boring to them.

[OH.X.MI]

Most Americans don't realize this, but American Football really is slow and kind of boring to the rest of the world.

Most of the world thinks soccer is an exciting sport, so forgive me if I'm not going to take their opinion on the liveliness of American Football too seriously.

[xubrew]

Most of the world thinks soccer is an exciting sport, so forgive me if I'm not going to take their opinion on the liveliness of American Football too seriously.

I like American football just fine. I'll spend most of this upcoming weekend watching college football and I'll probably go to at least ten games this year. I just find it amusing that so many people who aren't used to it think it is painfully boring to watch, and I gotta admit that they kinda have a point.

[xubrew]

Well, there are things I don't like about how FBS football is administered, even though I like the game itself just fine. The playoff is a huge improvement, but it is still insufficient. Every team in every other league in the world, including FCS, div2, and div3 college football, has the right to play until someone beats them. If a team like Houston runs the table, even though doing so will mean they had beaten Oklahoma and Louisville, they will likely not get in to the four team playoff. The reason is purely a presumption. Why not twelve teams?? The five power five champions, two from the best of five, and then five more at-large teams?? The regular season is still very meaningful, if not moreso, because it creates more games that impact conference titles, top ten rankings and fighting for at-large spots, not to mention byes and home field advantage in the playoff.

[GoMuskies]

If Houston goes undefeated, they're a playoff lock.

[GoMuskies]

They're going to lose to Oklahoma, though (and probably Louisville, too).

[paulxu]

Just have an 8 team playoff and be done with it.

[bourbonman]

Just have an 8 team playoff and be done with it.

Then the First Four OUT will complain about the Last Four IN. Sound familiar?

[chico]

They are two completely different games. Aussie Football 22 players on the field for each team, and the field is about twice as big. In Rugby, you have to lateral the ball or kick it forward, but if you kick it forward everyone on your team has to be behind you when you when you do it. In Aussie football you can kick it or punch it to to a teammate who's down field and it's not offsides. Also in Aussie football you can't run more than fifteen yards without giving the ball up, which is why you see guys dribbling it as if it were a basketball every fifteen yards. In rugby, like in football, one player can run down the entire field if they want to. There are no kickoffs in Aussie football. After a score, it is basically a jump ball at midfield. And, the scoring is way different. In rugby, there is an endzone similar to football. In Aussie football, the idea is to kick it through the goal, and you can do so from any part of the field, so it's normal for both teams to score close to a hundred points because each goal is worth six points. If a defender touches the ball as it is going through the goal, or if the person trying to kick the goal misses to the right or left, it's called a behind, and is only worth one point.

And, in Aussie football, when the ball goes out of bounds, the referees just pretty much aimlessly just throw it back in. So, play never really stops until someone scores.

But, to the point, if someone is used to watching either rugby or aussie football, American football will probably seem incredibly boring to them.

I used to love watching Australian rules football. In the early days of ESPN they played this an awful lot. It's nowhere close to rugby, though.

And the "punch" you so casually mention is called a "hand pass." If you're going to talk about Aussie Rules you better at least get your terminology right. Sheesh!

[xubrew]

I used to love watching Australian rules football. In the early days of ESPN they played this an awful lot. It's nowhere close to rugby, though.

And the "punch" you so casually mention is called a "hand pass." If you're going to talk about Aussie Rules you better at least get your terminology right. Sheesh!

It's not prawns! It's shrimp!

It's not a hand pass! It's a punch!

...and give me a break! Had I said "hand pass" no one would have known what the hell I was talking about!


I will say this, and I'm sort of kidding, but I'm only SORT OF kidding. If you took the biggest football fan in the United States and had him live in Australia for one year, by the end of the year he'd like Aussie football a lot more than American football. It's a much more exciting game. I like football, but I'm sorry, theirs is better.

[JTG]

It's not prawns! It's shrimp!

It's not a hand pass! It's a punch!

...and give me a break! Had I said "hand pass" no one would have known what the hell I was talking about!


I will say this, and I'm sort of kidding, but I'm only SORT OF kidding. If you took the biggest football fan in the United States and had him live in Australia for one year, by the end of the year he'd like Aussie football a lot more than American football. It's a much more exciting game. I like football, but I'm sorry, theirs is better.

You have some of the strangest opinions of anyone on this board. Were you sent here from another planet ?

[GoMuskies]

I'll patiently await the Australian Rules Football takeover of the world. The NFL is totally fucked.

[Xville]

It probably has to do with the fact that I don't really have an NFL team, but I will say that in recent years, my interest in the NFL has decreased ten-fold. It is pretty boring with all the time-outs, commercials, and other stoppages in play. I really do believe that if you take fantasy football away, a lot of the interest in the league would go away. Interest would still be there of course, but not to the level it is right now.

I also believe that in a generation or two, football is no longer going to be the most popular sport in america just like what happened with football taking over baseball years ago. I'm not so much of a soccer fan either, but I think that the sport is going to continue to grow and surpass football at some point.

[xubrew]

It probably has to do with the fact that I don't really have an NFL team, but I will say that in recent years, my interest in the NFL has decreased ten-fold. It is pretty boring with all the time-outs, commercials, and other stoppages in play. I really do believe that if you take fantasy football away, a lot of the interest in the league would go away. Interest would still be there of course, but not to the level it is right now.

I also believe that in a generation or two, football is no longer going to be the most popular sport in america just like what happened with football taking over baseball years ago. I'm not so much of a soccer fan either, but I think that the sport is going to continue to grow and surpass football at some point.

I am a HUGE soccer fan, and I don't see the sport sustaining the popularity it currently has. It just isn't in the DNA of the general American sports fan for it to be anything more than a fad. The people who love soccer will always love it, but the vast majority of people are bandwagon fans at most, and I don't think they will continue to stay interested in it. Some will, but most won't. We've had soccer booms before, and although it is currently more popular than I ever thought it would be, it still doesn't rise to the level of being a mainstream sport.

[Juice]

I am a HUGE soccer fan, and I don't see the sport sustaining the popularity it currently has. It just isn't in the DNA of the general American sports fan for it to be anything more than a fad. The people who love soccer will always love it, but the vast majority of people are bandwagon fans at most, and I don't think they will continue to stay interested in it. Some will, but most won't. We've had soccer booms before, and although it is currently more popular than I ever thought it would be, it still doesn't rise to the level of being a mainstream sport.

There is a "hipster" push behind soccer right now. I agree with you, I love the sport but I don't know if all these people are in it for the long haul.

[X-band '01]

It seems like there is a lot more coverage of international soccer than there is domestic soccer this time around. Maybe we focused a lot more domestically in the mid-90s (when MLS started) after the 1994 World Cup.

Hockey is becoming more and more of a niche sport, and you could also argue that baseball is headed down that road as well.

[xu82]

There is a "hipster" push behind soccer right now. I agree with you, I love the sport but I don't know if all these people are in it for the long haul.

I remember 40 years ago (ugh, I hate typing that!) when my friends played in HS. We thought then it was coming on. It seems to go in cycles, and I now actually look forward to World Cup time. My sons both played, and one will watch soccer with commentators in foreign languages. It's a little like the stock market, it will climb, then plateau, then climb again. It's no NFL, but it's much more popular than when I was young. The world gets smaller and smaller, and we have more and more in common.

[xubrew]

It's an interesting conversation (that doesn't have a whole lot to do with the 2016 college football season, but what the hell).

I appreciate baseball, but I'm not a baseball fan. I love going to a baseball game, but I couldn't tell you at any given moment who the best teams are or who the players are. But, it does appear to be the most popular sport in our biggest cities. New York, Chicago, Boston, and LA love them some baseball. As popular as the NFL is, and as good as the Patriots are, the Red Sox own Boston. I think the Yankees and Mets own New York.

The NFL is so hugely popular that it's almost unbelievable. I think it's the only pro sports league that will dominate markets where there aren't even teams. Other than the playoffs I really don't watch the NFL. It's not that I don't like it. It's just that I never really developed a huge interest in it. When I lived in Cincinnati it was fun to meet up with people and watch the Bengals games, but I wouldn't call myself a diehard fan. I don't buy the Sunday Ticket. I don't live in an NFL town. And, although I know several people with NFL ties in one way or another, I just don't watch it. But, it's HUGE. When you look at the TV ratings, they're basically blowing away the college football playoff games with their regular season games. The first week of the NFL season will have games that rate higher than the college football championship game. People say that football is going away and fading out. How?? It's the most popular game we have, and it's so much more popular than the second most popular game that it almost dwarfs all the other sports combined.

One of the things that I think football has going for it, and this includes college football, is the fan experience. The games are on weekends, and if you go to a game it's basically a festival with the tailgating and being outside on a fall day. The fan experience appeals to people who really don't know anything about the actual game of football. They just enjoy the festival like experience. And, even people who don't go to the games like to get together, cook out, and drink beer all day. It's the weekend, and the weather is usually nice. Another thing the sport has going for it is the huge popularity of fantasy football. Like the NCAA Tournament brackets, so many people play fantasty football, and it gives them a reason to be interested in games that they otherwise wouldn't even know about or care about.

In basketball, the fan experience is typically that you drive to the arena, you watch the game, and you drive home. That's it. Other than the tournament, the only people who watch games for hours at a time day after day are freaks. Like...well...me. There is no way to create a fantasy college basketball league that would appeal to as many people as a fantasy football league would.

[GoMuskies]

One of the things that I think football has going for it, and this includes college football, is

Gambling. The only correct way to complete this statement is gambling. Huge, dirty piles of money gambling.

I love that so, so much.

[xubrew]

Gambling. The only correct way to complete this statement is gambling. Huge, dirty piles of money gambling.

I love that so, so much.

Gambling isn't exclusive to football, is it? I don't gamble, but I think college football is easier to predict than either the NFL or college basketball. Most teams have a limited playbook and you know what their strengths are and what they're going to look to do on offense, and how effective it will be against the defense they're facing. In the NFL the teams are too even, and in college hoops, there are so many things that can happen that would allow a team that isn't as good as their opponent to still end up winning. A dominant big man who is capable of destroying the planet could end up in early foul trouble because the refs are calling it tight, and then suddenly be much less effective. There's no foul trouble in college football, or off shooting nights, and the games are officiated pretty similarly so that's less of a factor. Most of the time it's pretty easy to tell who the better team is, and in college football the better team wins a higher percentage of the time than in college basketball. I guess the same is true for the NFL, but the players are so good that it's not always easy to tell who's better. So, why is the NFL so much more popular??

[GoMuskies]

Fantasy football is gambling.

Also, people are stupid.

[xubrew]

Fantasy football is gambling.

Also, people are stupid.

This is a point that cannot be ignored.

[OH.X.MI]

So, why is the NFL so much more popular??

I really think its just the ritual and, for lack of a better term, the community aspect of it. I certainly watch more college basketball than anything, but it's not like I'm going to have people over on a Wednesday night to watch Michigan State v Maryland play at 7:30. With the NLF, at least for me, Sunday is an all day affair especially during the early fall. If the Bengals are out of town people come over and we watch games, drink, play cornhole, etc. If the Bengals are in town we go to the Banks. Sunday NFL is generally a set time when people without little kids have nothing else to do.

[Xville]

Gambling isn't exclusive to football, is it? I don't gamble, but I think college football is easier to predict than either the NFL or college basketball. Most teams have a limited playbook and you know what their strengths are and what they're going to look to do on offense, and how effective it will be against the defense they're facing. In the NFL the teams are too even, and in college hoops, there are so many things that can happen that would allow a team that isn't as good as their opponent to still end up winning. A dominant big man who is capable of destroying the planet could end up in early foul trouble because the refs are calling it tight, and then suddenly be much less effective. There's no foul trouble in college football, or off shooting nights, and the games are officiated pretty similarly so that's less of a factor. Most of the time it's pretty easy to tell who the better team is, and in college football the better team wins a higher percentage of the time than in college basketball. I guess the same is true for the NFL, but the players are so good that it's not always easy to tell who's better. So, why is the NFL so much more popular??

1.) Fantasy Football----I think this is a gigantic reason. When you really think about fantasy sports and what it is, its the dumbest thing on the planet..yet people still play it, including myself.

2.) 30 teams as opposed to over 100----fans are much more segmented in college than in the nfl

3.) NFL has done an amazing job of keeping things balanced so that interest stays up year to year....besides the outliers like the browns who are terrible every year, balance helps viewership i think. Heck even the Browns who are terrible every year, do well I believe from an attendance and viewership stand point because people think that this year will be the year. Again, balance helps that false narrative.

4.) Fantasy Football

5.) Fantasy Football

6.) Fantasy Football

Anyways, football really has dramatically climbed in one or two generations....we will see what happens in a generation or two from now. The impact of injuries (not being able to walk by the time you are 50, cte etc) might be enough to compel some people to turn their kids toward a different sport. My wife and I just recently had twins....and i will do everything in my power to steer them toward any sport other than football. I would think a lot of parents are going to do the same, though we shall see just how many and how much a generation or so from now.

[waggy]

The NFL is investing at the grassroots level.



The grant was the latest in an ongoing program in which the Bengals and the NFL have coordinated to distribute $1.5 million to local schools for new football fields. Other schools include Clinton-Massie High School, Covington Catholic High School, Lockland High School, Oak Hills High School, Taylor High School, Withrow University High School and Midway Elementary School.


http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Bengals-Join-Deer-Park-for-New-High-School-Field-Dedication/cc51ac77-48b9-4cfa-b7d6-bacead6adde4

[xubrew]

So, on to college football.

The playoffs are doing what anyone with a brain knew they would do. They're generating more money for everyone at the FBS level than the BCS ever did, and they're making the early weeks much more interesting because there is now an incentive to play a tougher OOC schedule. Week 1 used to be so boring that I routinely referred to it as WEAK 1. But, this week, we've got the following....

-Oregon State v Minney
-K State v Stanford
-Oklahoma v Houston - this game is in Houston, but is technically neutral, and if the Sooner fans travel, it may be practically neutral as well. Still, it's a very intriguing game that matches up what appears to be the best non power five team against a potential playoff team
-UCLA v TAMU
-LSU v Wiscy at Lambeau Field. This is just an awesome game
-LA Tech @ Arkansas. Arkansas should win, but at least they scheduled a non power team with half a pulse
-UNC v Georgia
-USC v Alabama
-Northern Iowa at Iowa State. I like this one because it wouldn't shock me at all if UNI beat them
-Clemson v Auburn
-BYU v Arizona
-Notre Dame v Texas
-Ole Miss v Florida State

Week 1, which used to be the worst week of the season, now has more intriguing games than just about any other week. College football quickly gets to a point to where there are only a smattering of intriguing games each week, and the longer the season progresses, the more interesting some of the games are, but there are also fewer and fewer of them. This is incredible!! College football, despite itself, has actually done something to drastically improve itself!

Now, if only the second Friday in November could look like this when that other college sport that we all know and love tips off....

[Nigel Tufnel]

To further derail this thread...I've noticed a pretty big increase in kids' interest in lacrosse. Wonder if it will continue. When I was a kid, I didn't even know what is was...now, my small town has club lacrosse in the 1st grade...lots of my son's friends play it and really enjoy it.

[GIMMFD]

I thought I read somewhere that it was the fastest growing sport in America???

[paulxu]

Back on topic....tomorrow night Bristol opens with my team, which does not look like it's in for a very good year.

Be that as it may...

...........................Let's

https://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/south-carolina-game-cocks-cheerleaders-50.jpg

[GoMuskies]

Underdogs to the mighty Commodores? Ouch.

[paulxu]

We're gonna sneak up on the SEC.

[xubrew]

I know this has been discussed in spurts before, but does anyone wish Xavier had football or just think that we're better off without it.

I certainly wish we had it at least at the Pioneer League non-scholarship level.

I've been arounds schools with and without football, and I do think that football, even on a smaller scale, rounds out your athletic department. Even FCS teams get between 5-10k for games throughout September and October. Their brand is out there. If you don't have football you're really just dormant until November, and even once you do get basketball fired up it isn't on the front page until January.

Football and basketball are like mac and cheese. If you have one it's okay. If you have the other it's okay. You mix the two together and it's amazing! I think when done right, both sports help make each other better. Nova was the first non-FBS school to win the national title since UConn in 1999 (who transitioned up very soon after that). The last school to win it all without football of any kind was Marquette in 1977. Other than VCU in 2011 and Marquette in 2003, I'm having a hard time remembering when a school reached the FF without football of any kind.

And, similar to me and the lower level conferences in basketball, I actually really enjoy the FCS. Those can be fun games to go to and/or watch. Granted, standing on the sidelines at Florida State, Clemson, Auburn, Tennessee, etc is fun too, but as a fan experience FCS football is way underrated. It's a much cheaper ticket, and you're still outside tailgating all day. It's also not that much of a financial burden on the department. If you have the 52 scholarships and you have the standard 125 guys that are walk ons/practice players, then the non-scholarship guys basically cover the cost of the scholarship guys. There are FCS schools that barely spend a million a year on football.

[muskiefan82]

Club football is the wave of the future!! X is ahead of the curve!! (Tongue planted firmly in cheek)

[xubrew]

Club football is the wave of the future!! X is ahead of the curve!! (Tongue planted firmly in cheek)

I wouldn't think that non-scholarship football is really that much more of a drain than club football.

[GoMuskies]

I know this has been discussed in spurts before, but does anyone wish Xavier had football or just think that we're better off without it.

I'm glad we don't have it.

[GoMuskies]

Other than VCU in 2011 and Marquette in 2003, I'm having a hard time remembering when a school reached the FF without football of any kind.

Wichita State. 2013.

The Shockers DO have an ugly ass old football stadium on campus, though, that dates back to when they still had a football program and is now the proud home of Kapaun Mt. Carmel Crusader football.

[xubrew]

Wichita State. 2013.

The Shockers DO have an ugly ass old football stadium on campus, though, that dates back to when they still had a football program and is now the proud home of Kapaun Mt. Carmel Crusader football.

I'm actually embarrassed that I forgot about that one. It's the most obvious one.

But, to my point, it is rather rare. it's happened twice in the last five years, but only three times since the last time a school without football got there prior to Marquette doing it in 2003.

[xubrew]

George Mason in 2006.

Okay, I give up on the trivia. FOUR times (I think) since the last time a team did it before Marquette in 2003. That's still not a lot even if my trivia sucks.

[paulxu]

I like the idea of having a FCS football team, like Richmond or Wofford.
It was a great experience when I was a student at X, and I'm glad they had it. Homecoming nonsense and all.
It would seem like it could be done without too much of a $ burden. Richmond won it one year, and Wofford is often in the playoffs.

[xudash]

I like the idea of having a FCS football team, like Richmond or Wofford.
It was a great experience when I was a student at X, and I'm glad they had it. Homecoming nonsense and all.
It would seem like it could be done without too much of a $ burden. Richmond won it one year, and Wofford is often in the playoffs.

I'm with you all the way on this, Paul.

Obviously, the big PROVISO with all this is that football would be done in such a way that it NEVER in any way detracted from the continuing development of our basketball program and, for that matter, the ongoing development and improvement in our other Olympic sports.

I'm imagining an environment at a (somewhat) rebuilt Corchoran Field that resembles a successful DIII kind of environment: 10k fans, fun little tailgating set-up, etc.

2077

[GoMuskies]

Are you guys envisioning beer sales at these games? Because I MIGHT be able to get on board if so.

[xubrew]

Are you guys envisioning beer sales at these games? Because I MIGHT be able to get on board if so.

Doesn't Xavier sell beer at everything?? Like any college that sells beer, they'll sell you a single draft for the price of a six pack. So, I'm sure they'd sell it at football as well if they had football.

[xudash]

Are you guys envisioning beer sales at these games? Because I MIGHT be able to get on board if so.

Are the Kennedy's gun shy?

Did Rose Kennedy own a black dress?

What kind of stupid question is that? I never took you for someone who would ask that particular question.

Beer sales? Absolutely. Beers in cans. Beers in bottles. Beers in kegs. Beers with flasks.

Imagine the PER CAPITA consumption performance potential of a Jesuit-centric tailgate.

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, it was kind of a stupid question as it relates to Xavier athletics (and the demands of Xavier fanatics). Now if I could get my online book to take action on FCS football I'd be behind this 1000%.

[GIMMFD]

I would still love WVU football but hot damn it would be great to tailgate Xavier football...

[X-band '01]

I think it's safe to say that FC Cincinnati is getting better crowds than what UC has for their home opener against UT-Martin.

Better yet, UC is trailing 7-6 late in the first half. UT-Knoxville is losing early at home to Appalachian State.

[GoMuskies]

Lamar Jackson put up some video game numbers in his first half action against national power Charlotte.

[paulxu]

Is App State on the Big 12 invitee list?

[paulxu]

And for the love of God, Brent, it's NOT Appa"lay"chian State. Almost as bad as Eggs.

[GoMuskies]

App State clock management is....not so good.

[XUMIOH12]

wow App St completely blew that game.

[GoMuskies]

Congrats to Paul and his Cocks.

[xudash]

Well now Paul.

How are you doing right now?

[paulxu]

I should have called Go and had him place one for me and taken the points (which weren't needed).

I also recognize that if we had been playing Alabama, the score would have been 56-3.

[GIMMFD]

Well, not very impressive by the SEC in week one... It'll be interesting to see how Tenn bounces back against Virginia Tech

[xudash]

I should have called Go and had him place one for me and taken the points (which weren't needed).

I also recognize that if we had been playing Alabama, the score would have been 56-3.

Well, if the glass is half full, at least that "3" may have come from long range. You have a solid kicker!

[xubrew]

I only saw last seven minutes or so of the Appy State v Tennessee game and a little bit of the second quarter. There are times during the year where I'm slammed with work for fourteen and sixteen hour days, and now is one of those times. I'm genuinely surprised. I thought Tennessee would absolutely crush them, and as it turns out they were lucky to even win at all. Appy State didn't just play well enough to win, they played well enough to where they SHOULD have won, and would have won if not for a missed FG and a Tennessee fumble recovery (which App St forced) in the endzone. That's the definition of luck.

[X-band '01]

Appalachian State missed a PAT in the 2nd quarter. That was also fatal.

[GIMMFD]

I only saw last seven minutes or so of the Appy State v Tennessee game and a little bit of the second quarter. There are times during the year where I'm slammed with work for fourteen and sixteen hour days, and now is one of those times. I'm genuinely surprised. I thought Tennessee would absolutely crush them, and as it turns out they were lucky to even win at all. Appy State didn't just play well enough to win, they played well enough to where they SHOULD have won, and would have won if not for a missed FG and a Tennessee fumble recovery (which App St forced) in the endzone. That's the definition of luck.

The questions were about Tennessee's o line, and they were exposed last night. Dodds looked like crap as well, they have a lot of things to get worked out. Otherwise VT will roll them

[Xville]

I only saw last seven minutes or so of the Appy State v Tennessee game and a little bit of the second quarter. There are times during the year where I'm slammed with work for fourteen and sixteen hour days, and now is one of those times. I'm genuinely surprised. I thought Tennessee would absolutely crush them, and as it turns out they were lucky to even win at all. Appy State didn't just play well enough to win, they played well enough to where they SHOULD have won, and would have won if not for a missed FG and a Tennessee fumble recovery (which App St forced) in the endzone. That's the definition of luck.

Tennessee, like it has been for the last ten or so years, is completely overrated once again. Just because you have good recruiting seasons, doesn't mean they are going to be good. Somehow, the experts haven't figured that one out yet.

[nickgyp]

Ten years ago, Xavier's club football team had its inaugural season. After going 0-3 that year, Xavier won back to back Midwestern College Club football conference titles. Schools like Ohio St., Miami (Oh.), and Wright State started club teams with numbers that dwarfed the Muskie squads. The Muskie players paid their own way to play and scheduling practices where the entire squad could attend proved daunting. Recruiting players to play was easier than getting them to materialize and practice. The Xavier club sports program helped fund the effort as did alumni contributions (including many football alums) but with too few players and injuries, playing games was a difficult task. Through various head coaches from Tom Powers, Jim Carty to Sean McCormick, the team tried to stay competitive without jeopardizing players' health. One season was suspended due to the risks but an effort to come back in 2013 failed due to insufficient numbers.

Many of us associated with the club team from its inception in 2006 were, at least in the back of our minds, hopeful that the club team might morph into a Pioneer Football League non-scholarship program. The team started out 0-3 in its first year drawing some 3000 people to Norwood stadium for its very first game against Marquette's club team. The next two years saw the club team win the Midwestern Club Football Conference title against the likes of Miami (Oh.), Southern Illinois-Edwardsville and Wright St.. Ohio State added a club team and these teams soon had rosters that dwarfed X's numbers. Players who expressed an interest in playing for Xavier either failed to appear and /or missed practices. These players paid to play but getting everyone to attend practice was difficult due to class schedules. The once competitive Muskies were simply being outmanned. Injuries further reduced rosters to the point that playing became too risky. One season had to end prematurely for that reason; and a 2013 effort to revive the team failed to produce adequate numbers to field a squad.

The team was funded by fees, a donation from the school's club program and donations (many from original football alums). However, the team became less competitive and the numbers never became sufficient to justify the risks of playing. Many of us thought that the administration could have done more to make the team's presence felt. Coach McCormick even drafted a very detailed proposal for non-scholarship football at Xavier which I believe was presented to Vice President Kucia but to no avail. In a time where a number of schools are adding football and where PFL schools like Dayton, Butler and Davidson field non-scholarship football teams that do not hurt basketball (Georgetown, DC has non scholarship football and a successful basketball program); and Villanova revived its dormant football program (scholarship I believe) and won a NCAA basketball title. And somehow, Title IX considerations do not keep prevent football at these schools.

For those who recall Xavier football on Victory Parkway (with the memories of Dan Abramowicz, Carroll Williams, John Shinner, Steve Bailey and Rich Kase to name a few) something is sorely missing during Xavier's fall sports. Soccer, for all its success, just isn't football.

Count me in as liking to see football back at Xavier.

[XUMIOH12]

looks like essentially the same paragraph 3 different times...

[XUMIOH12]

that being said, i think it would be cool to see a real football team at Xavier. But it just isnt going to happen.

[xubrew]

I keep waiting for Oklahoma to make the bleeding stop, but they keep ripping the scab open. If Houston scores here and goes up 40-17 I'm giving up on the Sooners. I'm glad Houston is winning. I thought they were good. I jsut didn't think they were good enough to beat Oklahoma, much less run away from them.

[GIMMFD]

Good lord Mizzou is terrible, WVU should have dropped 40 on them easily, could be a long season for WVU if they don't get the red zone offense corrected. But man, Justin Crawford is going to be a household name soon guys.

[GoMuskies]

That Houston/OU game was a joy to watch. Too bad Oklahoma got the late cosmetic TD.

[xudash]

Wisconsin. You can't be serious.

Way to self destruct.

[xu82]

Well, LSU just had an interesting turn of events....

[paulxu]

I'm guessing Oklahoma won't vote to admit Houston.

[xudash]

I'm guessing Oklahoma won't vote to admit Houston.

That would be petty.

[paulxu]

Well, they were considering Arkansas St or somebody like that, so....

[xudash]

So, the USC promo video is unique and differentiating, but their football team appears to still be lacking.

[GoMuskies]

Kentucky blowing a 35-10 lead against Southern Miss was just fucking awesome.

[GIMMFD]

So, the USC promo video is unique and differentiating, but their football team appears to still be lacking.

Understatement. Alabama took them to the woodshed. Absolutely everything I expected Bama to do. Sheesh that's just not fair.

[xubrew]

Kentucky blowing a 35-10 lead against Southern Miss was just fucking awesome.

The whole SEC kind of struggled. Well, all of the ones who didn't play a team from LA seemed to struggle.

[GIMMFD]

Win or lose, I'm very impressed with this Texas team. They just have a different swagger to them coming into this season. Their new QB is legit, Texas could be pretty damn good this year if all goes well.

[Strange Brew]

It's painful being an Irish fan. Texas looks great.

[Xville]

It's painful being an Irish fan. Texas looks great.

Notre dame's secondary is freaking terrible...if Texas' qb had been a bit more accurate, it would be 42-14. Texas is ok, but notre Dame is making them look really good so far.

[xu82]

It's painful being an Irish fan. Texas looks great.

I'm with ya, enjoy being top 10 now. Not likely to last.

[GIMMFD]

I'm with ya, enjoy being top 10 now. Not likely to last.

Not so fast, 31-28.. could see some fourth quarter dramatics!!

[Strange Brew]

Not so fast, 31-28.. could see some fourth quarter dramatics!!

This team will be the death of me...

[paulxu]

Nick Saban after a 52-6 win...."we got some areas to improve..."

[xu82]

Not so fast, 31-28.. could see some fourth quarter dramatics!!

I'm with ya, but it they have a way to go to look like top 10 material.

And I hope they do that!

[Strange Brew]

Nick Saban after a 52-6 win...."we got some areas to improve..."

Bama/Saban are ridiculously good.

[Strange Brew]

Still trying to understand how the hit on Hunter was legal. No worries, the no call only cost ND a TD.

[xu82]

Still trying to understand how the hit on Hunter was legal. No worries, the no call only cost ND a TD.

No hit = TD. Penalty means keep trying, but yeah.

[Strange Brew]

Put up 47 and lose. ND needs to make some changes.

[Xville]

Did Texas just win the national title or something? You beat an overrated notre Dame team....at home...good game but both of these teams are pretty mediocre.

[xubrew]

Texas is 12-16 in their last 28 games. I agree that they were putting way too much on this game. Had they lost it their fans would have been devastated and ranted and raved about how they're no longer relevant. Now that they've won it, they think they're a playoff caliber team. That's too many eggs in one basket, IMHO, but having said that I understand why they feel so good about this one.

[Lloyd Braun]

Did Texas just win the national title or something? You beat an overrated notre Dame team....at home...good game but both of these teams are pretty mediocre.

It's week 1....

[xubrew]

It's week 1....

Yeah, I know. I think I've seen two teams so far that looked really good, and that's Houston and Alabama. Everyone else that's high in the rankings looked somewhere between decent and mediocre. Ohio State and Michigan ran over some cupcakes, but putting a beat down on a team that's probably not even as good as your practice squad isn't necessarily overly impressive.

[Xville]

It's week 1....

Yes but it's pretty easy to tell if teams are actually good or not. It's not rocket science.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I don't expect Texas to be a playoff team, but right now I don't care. HOOK EM.

[Masterofreality]

Did Texas just win the national title or something? You beat an overrated notre Dame team....at home...good game but both of these teams are pretty mediocre.

What? #10 ranked Notre Dame overrated?

Careful because some on this board will be sending you letter bombs for saying that.

It wouldn't be a college football season without an over hyped FIrish team. They'll probably get ranked back up to 5th after they play that powerhouse Nevada this week. You know...that same Nevada who blew out Cal Poly by 3 last weekend.

[GIMMFD]

Yeah, I know. I think I've seen two teams so far that looked really good, and that's Houston and Alabama. Everyone else that's high in the rankings looked somewhere between decent and mediocre. Ohio State and Michigan ran over some cupcakes, but putting a beat down on a team that's probably not even as good as your practice squad isn't necessarily overly impressive.

Agreed with this statement 100%. Even Clemson looked lagging against Auburn, however it's very early, and I think once rhythm and everything begins to start playing in as a factor, we'll see a much different outlook. I could see 4-5 teams that could win it this year honestly.

[paulxu]

I can't wait for Louisville v Houston. That could be a basketball score.

[xudash]

Sec > acc

[GoMuskies]

Sec > acc

I don't know. Ole Miss is better than FSU so far, but the entire SEC East is hot garbage. After one week, this is the worst SEC top to bottom I've seen in a long time.

[xu82]

Sec > acc

I have an FSU alum son at the game who may be starting to regret the smack talking with Ole Miss fans an hour ago. Ugly....

[GIMMFD]

I don't know. Ole Miss is better than FSU so far, but the entire SEC East is hot garbage. After one week, this is the worst SEC top to bottom I've seen in a long time.

Other than Alabama and maybe Texas A&M, the SEC looked so so damn bad. Georgia terrible, Tenn is terrible, Mizzou is bad, Florida didn't look promising... It's Week 1 and plenty of time to get things in rhythm, but man. It was bad.

[paulxu]

So the Cocks are hot garbage? Gonna have to think about that for a while.

[GoMuskies]

Other than Alabama and maybe Texas A&M, the SEC looked so so damn bad. Georgia terrible, Tenn is terrible, Mizzou is bad, Florida didn't look promising... It's Week 1 and plenty of time to get things in rhythm, but man. It was bad.

I forgot about Georgia. The Dawgs were actually pretty good. The rest of the SEC East...bad. Paul, I wouldn't pencil in football watching time over Thanksgiving weekend. But there are a lot of bad SEC East teams the Cocks should have their way with (so to speak).

[paulxu]

FSU does not look like the 4th best team in the country.
Maybe this will keep me from having to listen to that idiotic tomahawk-chop noise.
Almost as bad as Rocky Top.

[Xville]

Sec > acc

I think this year, they are about the same. They each have three very good teams, and the rest are pretty mediocre. Alabama, Ole Miss and Georgia seem to be solid clubs a&m maybe but it was ucla at home...Clemson, fsu and louisville are solid as well. Unc may be good like a&m but hard to tell. The leagues aren't very deep, even though the media would have you believe otherwise in regards to the sec.

Fsu is showing tonight what happens when you play a freshman QB against a defense with a pulse unlike Texas vs nd last night. Of course, that may change in the second half. One thing about jimbo, he does seem to be a coach who makes great adjustments when needed.

[GoMuskies]

The leagues aren't very deep

What?!? Did you miss Wake pasting Tulane 7-3? Or UVA putting up a pretty solid fight against Richmond? This is preposterous!

[xu82]

What?!? Did you miss Wake pasting Tulane 7-3? Or UVA putting up a pretty solid fight against Richmond? This is preposterous!

Was that baseball?

[paulxu]

I've never figured out the prevent defense. I know it's suppose to be about the percentages, but Ole Miss goes to it with 2 minutes left...and FSU just marches down to score. Crazy.

[xu82]

Who's ready for #BeBadForChad? Browns?

[xudash]

That's what I get for posting too soon.

[xu82]

That's what I get for posting too soon.

Premature posting can be treated. Not to worry, it could happen to anyone.

Strange turn of events I did not see coming. Happy for my son who made the trip there.

[GIMMFD]

I think this year, they are about the same. They each have three very good teams, and the rest are pretty mediocre. Alabama, Ole Miss and Georgia seem to be solid clubs a&m maybe but it was ucla at home...Clemson, fsu and louisville are solid as well. Unc may be good like a&m but hard to tell. The leagues aren't very deep, even though the media would have you believe otherwise in regards to the sec.

Fsu is showing tonight what happens when you play a freshman QB against a defense with a pulse unlike Texas vs nd last night. Of course, that may change in the second half. One thing about jimbo, he does seem to be a coach who makes great adjustments when needed.

Are you watching the same game I am?? I've thought Francois wasn't anything short of impressive even in the first half. He had some growing pains but has settled in really nicely. I thought Florida State's problem was Dalvin Cook not getting going and Chad Kelly playing unreal at the time.

[xu82]

It seems the FSU OL is struggling against a tough D Line.

[GIMMFD]

It seems the FSU OL is struggling against a tough D Line.

Yeah but the Aguayo brothers are the next coming of the Gramaticas.

[xu82]

Yeah but the Aguayo brothers are the next coming of the Gramaticas.

If you mean better kickers in college than the NFL, probably true. :-)

[Xville]

Are you watching the same game I am?? I've thought Francois wasn't anything short of impressive even in the first half. He had some growing pains but has settled in really nicely. I thought Florida State's problem was Dalvin Cook not getting going and Chad Kelly playing unreal at the time.

I think more that Jimbo made some adjustments at halftime, like Florida State has so often done since Winston's first year and hinted that that may happen before the second half started. Jimbo is a heck of an in game coach.....it was that, and the fact that Ole Miss gave the ball away in the second half too much right out of the gate, giving FSU short fields. Cook really wasn't much of a factor in the second half, I mean he had less than 50 yards.

[Xville]

What? #10 ranked Notre Dame overrated?

Careful because some on this board will be sending you letter bombs for saying that.

It wouldn't be a college football season without an over hyped FIrish team. They'll probably get ranked back up to 5th after they play that powerhouse Nevada this week. You know...that same Nevada who blew out Cal Poly by 3 last weekend.

Texas goes from unranked to almost ranked in the top 10 because they beat an overrated Notre Dame at home....wow. These polls are such a joke at the beginning of the season.

[GoMuskies]

Texas goes from unranked to almost ranked in the top 10 because they beat an overrated Notre Dame at home....wow. These polls are such a joke at the beginning of the season.

The coaches were a bit more sensible in that regard.

[GIMMFD]

I think more that Jimbo made some adjustments at halftime, like Florida State has so often done since Winston's first year and hinted that that may happen before the second half started. Jimbo is a heck of an in game coach.....it was that, and the fact that Ole Miss gave the ball away in the second half too much right out of the gate, giving FSU short fields. Cook really wasn't much of a factor in the second half, I mean he had less than 50 yards.

Oh don't get me wrong, I think Jimbo Fisher is one of the best in game coaches in the country, but I also think Francois was pretty damn good. Ole Miss definitely blew the game, but trust me Florida State could be WAYYYY worse off at QB than Francois, I loved how he sat in there and took huge hits while making throws, dude is a warrior in my opinion, and made some pretty decent throws throughout the game.

[paulxu]

When you go to the prevent D in the second quarter, you're in trouble.

[xubrew]

The first week of the season was awesome!!

Now, on to the second week!!!

And....you know what?? Let's all take a week off. There are no good games, and only three that look like they won't completely suck (VA Tech v Tennessee at the speedway, BYU v Utah, and Arkansas v TCU).

[GoMuskies]

'brew, you're "Mr. Rivalry", and you're not interested in Pitt/Penn State?!? NC State/ECU is pretty good, too.

[paulxu]

We get More Cowbell. Should be fun.

[GoMuskies]

We get More Cowbell. Should be fun.

I was kind of surprised to see that Miss Stake is favored in that game.

[paulxu]

The Cocks may be dogs all year, especially on the road.

[Juice]

The Cocks may be dogs all year, especially on the road.

They deserve that for hiring Muschamp. They'll be lucky to score two touchdowns a game.

[bourbonman]

They'll be lucky to score two touchdowns a game.

Do NOT take that bet. They play at KY and scoring on them this year shouldn't be a probably. In fact, they may score enough touchdowns in that one game to average two touchdowns for their road games for the season. Just saying.

[Juice]

Do NOT take that bet. They play at KY and scoring on them this year shouldn't be a probably. In fact, they may score enough touchdowns in that one game to average two touchdowns for their road games for the season. Just saying.

I'm not betting on that game. I'm just talking about the program overall under Muschamp.

[gladdenguy]

go blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bourbonman]

I'm not betting on that game. I'm just talking about the program overall under Muschamp.

Agreed. Welcome to the basement in the East. Starting to get a little crowded with KY, Vandy and now SC & MO joining.

[GoMuskies]

I'm taking a half-day off Friday to drive with my son to the greatest spectacle in the "illustrious" history of Louisville football: the #2 Florida State Seminoles vs. the #10 Fighting Lamar Jacksons of Louisville with ESPN Gameday in the house.

It's going to be amazing considering that when I started going to Louisville football games it was to sit in the end zone of a minor league baseball stadium with tickets given to me for having perfect attendance for a month in kindergarten.

[xubrew]

I'm taking a half-day off Friday to drive with my son to the greatest spectacle in the "illustrious" history of Louisville football: the #2 Florida State Seminoles vs. the #10 Fighting Lamar Jacksons of Louisville with ESPN Gameday in the house.

It's going to be amazing considering that when I started going to Louisville football games it was to sit in the end zone of a minor league baseball stadium with tickets given to me for having perfect attendance for a month in kindergarten.

I MIGHT be going to this is well. Ironically, if I go, it will be on the FSU sideline. It's ironic because my family had season tickets to Louisville football and basketball growing up, and are still huge fans. I've seen them play Florida State before in the end-zone of that minor league baseball stadium that you are talking about. Yunno, I kinda miss that place. Eight years out of ten the team was lousy, but I don't think I've ever had more fun going to football games in my life then I used to have going to Old Cardinal Stadium to watch football on a baseball field.

[xu82]

I'm taking a half-day off Friday to drive with my son to the greatest spectacle in the "illustrious" history of Louisville football: the #2 Florida State Seminoles vs. the #10 Fighting Lamar Jacksons of Louisville with ESPN Gameday in the house.

It's going to be amazing considering that when I started going to Louisville football games it was to sit in the end zone of a minor league baseball stadium with tickets given to me for having perfect attendance for a month in kindergarten.

Congratulations! I hope that was not the highlight of your academic career. I guess they really wanted to fill the seats.

[xubrew]

Congratulations! I hope that was not the highlight of your academic career. I guess they really wanted to fill the seats.

Oh my God you have NOOOOOOO idea!!

UC football in the CUSA days was like the game at Bristol Speedway compared to Louisville football in those years.

[GoMuskies]

I guess they really wanted to fill the seats.


If you went to Convenient (the old gas store chain in Louisville), they had stacks of general admission tickets that you could just take.

[xubrew]

If you went to Convenient (the old gas store chain in Louisville), they had stacks of general admission tickets that you could just take.

I think a radio station once did a promotion where they went to a shopping mall and would leave a quarter on the floor next to a Louisville football ticket to see which one more people would pick up. It was the quarter just about every time.

Basketball had a waiting list for tickets (and I'm pretty sure they still do), and they actually required season ticket holders to purchase season tickets for football. Even though these people had the tickets, they still didn't go. They couldn't give them away.

I think the way the program operated was to sweeten the pot for basketball contracts. By that I mean they would call up power basketball programs to try and get home and homes, and as part of the deal Louisville would go there and play them in football with no expectation of a return game. The team was so remarkably bad and under-supported that many people who considered themselves to be Louisville fans were no more aware of what the football team was doing than what the field hockey team was doing.

But, in a weird way, if you did support the football team, it kind of bonded you together with the other few people who also supported it. I miss going to those games. I really do.

[X-band '01]

If you saw the 30 for 30 on The U, Miami had similar promotions with local Burger Kings to give away free Hurricane football tickets in the late 70s when those teams were awful (as opposed to their current state of mediocrity).

Wasn't it 1989 when Louisville finally showed signs of life for their football program? I remember them beating Alabama in the Fiesta Bowl one year, but can't remember exactly when that happened.

[GoMuskies]

'84 was the first sign of life. Howard Schnellenberger was hired to be the new coach, fresh off turning the U into the U. Thankfully he left Miami to take a USFL job, and the franchise folded before they played a game. That's the only reason he was available to come home to coach his hometown college program.

'88 was the first sign of life on the field. QB Jay Gruden (the Redskins head coach) led the Cards to an 8-3 season that included wins over VaTech, UNC, and Virginia.

'90 was the 10-1-1 season with the win over Alabama in the Fiesta Bowl.

Lots of ups and downs since then.

[xubrew]

The vicious hit at the end of the Wiscy v LSU game that had everyone yelling for blood (and understandably so) actually ended up ending on a very positive note...

http://athletesinaction.org/underreview/what-happened-after-the-hit#.V9c4q5MrJPX

[xudash]

The vicious hit at the end of the Wiscy v LSU game that had everyone yelling for blood (and understandably so) actually ended up ending on a very positive note...

http://athletesinaction.org/underreview/what-happened-after-the-hit#.V9c4q5MrJPX

I can't thank you enough for sharing this story.

This is a truly good outcome and it's only right - it's damn wonderful - that it has gained national attention.

More importantly, good for them.

[GoMuskies]

I'm thinking of a "Bob Huggins Has No Integrity" sign for GameDay. Or maybe something featuring Mick Cronin as a gnome.

[ammtd34]

I'm thinking of a "Bob Huggins Has No Integrity" sign for GameDay. Or maybe something featuring Mick Cronin as a gnome.

Please

[xubrew]

Game Day in person actually kind of sucks. After ten minutes you'll just probably want to go back and resume your tailgate. They actually police all of the signage, although people still sneak some of them in and get them up for at least a couple of minutes. Bob Huggins Has No Integrity would be great for this board, but given my feelings about ESPN, and knowing how much it would drive them nuts, BIG EAST HOOPS ON FOX would be much better! Well, least for me. Anything that gives another network pub would set them off.

[GoMuskies]

Game Day in person actually kind of sucks.

Honestly, after reading the rules I doubt I will even go into the actual GameDay area. We'll wander over, see the GameDay set from as close as we can get, catch a glimpse of the crazies and then head back to the tailgate. The line for GameDay starts at 4am (!), gates open at 5am, and the show goes from 9-11 (moves inside the stadium from 11-12). OK, so pack lots of beer and snacks, right? Wrong. No food or beverage of any kind can be brought into the GameDay area, where they expect people to hang out for 5 or 6 or 7 hours. No thanks.

[xudash]

Damn.

Bear kittens screwed the pooch in that televised hot mess.

[paulxu]

That can't help their bid hopes.

[GoMuskies]

I feel so bad for UC.

Did I say that with a straight face?

[xubrew]

Houston slept through the first three quarters. It's not often you see a team get blown out who actually had a lead in the fourth quarter.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville/FSU first half was fun.

[paulxu]

Louisville to the Big 12 !!

What? Too late?

[paulxu]

I wonder if Glow is down in the Grove.

[X-band '01]

Louisville is doing things to Florida State that are in clear violation of the Geneva Convention.

[paulxu]

Maybe the Big 12 should consider North Dakota State.


Darren Rovell
ESPN Senior Writer

$2,175,000: Amount North Dakota St has been paid from 6 FBS opponents it has beaten since 2010.

[ballyhoohoo]

I wonder if Glow is down in the Grove.

The greatest tail gate. Period.

[Xville]

Just left the louisville-fsu game...thought before the game that louisville was a bit better than their ranking and fsu was a little overrated. However, never thought that was going to happen. Louisville absolutely dominated and broke fsu's will...that was insane.

[paulxu]

I did not know there was a Mercy Rule in college football where you could shorten the game; but there is.

Crazy weekend on the gridiron.

[xu82]

Just left the louisville-fsu game...thought before the game that louisville was a bit better than their ranking and fsu was a little overrated. However, never thought that was going to happen. Louisville absolutely dominated and broke fsu's will...that was insane.

It all depends on how you define "a bit". And the team FSU manhandled in the second half (Ole Miss) is up on Alabama. I'm confused, but glad I didn't hang the FSU flag out front today!

[Xville]

It all depends on how you define "a bit". And the team FSU manhandled in the second half (Ole Miss) is up on Alabama. I'm confused, but glad I didn't hang the FSU flag out front today!

I think with ole miss-Bama, ole miss just has their number for some reason...what ole miss does well is the one thing where Bama has been suspect the past few years and that is their secondary.

As far as louisville, I think they are a top 5 team and thought that before the game. Of course, they may be that but still lose at Clemson or at Houston. That Clemson game could end up being #3 against #4 or something alongood those lines in two weeks

[GIMMFD]

Mike Vick tweeted that Lamar Jackson was 5x better than him in college.. That's saying something.

[xu82]

Mike Vick tweeted that Lamar Jackson was 5x better than him in college.. That's saying something.

But is he 5x better at murdering dogs in horrendously violent fashion?

Sorry, dog guy here and still working on forgiveness....

[Strange Brew]

Bigger joke? Big 10 officiating or Brian Kelly?

[Xville]

Bigger joke? Big 10 officiating or Brian Kelly?

Biggest joke was nd being a 7-8 point favorite against Michigan state. Easy money.

[Strange Brew]

Kelly is taking a knee and I love it. Better to not get someone hurt

[Strange Brew]

Biggest joke was nd being a 7-8 point favorite against Michigan state. Easy money.

Easy money with this officiating.

[Xville]

Mike Vick tweeted that Lamar Jackson was 5x better than him in college.. That's saying something.

That's a little ridiculous for him to say that at this point. Jackson seems to be pretty damn good right now, but everyone needs to calm down.

[Xville]

Easy money with this officiating.

Ha...yeah its officiating as to why they are losing by more than 4 tds at home. I'm not a notre Dame hater but anyone with half a brain can see how overrated they have been for a few years now.

[Strange Brew]

Haha! Big 10 refs are retarded. Full retard

[Masterofreality]

Bigger joke? Big 10 officiating or Brian Kelly?


Biggest joke was nd being a 7-8 point favorite against Michigan state. Easy money.

Biggest joke. Not-re Dame being ranked #10 Preseason, immediately loses to Texas and is getting boatraced by Michigan State.

Amazing what happens when you have to play REAL teams.

[GoMuskies]

Notre Dame can't seem to catch a break with officiating. Seems like every time they lose the refs were against them.

[Masterofreality]

Bigger joke? Big 10 officiating or Brian Kelly?


Notre Dame can't seem to catch a break with officiating. Seems like every time they lose the refs were against them.

Wait. Has ALL the bad luck moved north from dayton?

[Strange Brew]

Texas is highly ranked and that game was on the road. Are you stupid?

[Masterofreality]

Texas is highly ranked and that game was on the road. Are you stupid?

They weren't "highly ranked" before Game 1. Notre Dame was.... Overrated as usual.

Can't you read?

[Strange Brew]

Notre Dame can't seem to catch a break with officiating. Seems like every time they lose the refs were against them.

You know, you're so right. It's not like NDs first two TDs were called back or anything and MSU has been flagged once. I'm sure they're just that clean. Even Flutie is calling out the nonsense.

[Strange Brew]

They weren't "highly ranked" before Game 1. Notre Dame was.... Overrated as usual.

Can't you read?

Yes, you clearly are retarded.

[GoMuskies]

You know, you're so right. It's not like NDs first two TDs were called back or anything and MSU has been flagged once. I'm sure they're just that clean. Even Flutie is calling out the nonsense.

Can't catch a break. Poor, unfortunate Irish.

[Xville]

Texas is highly ranked and that game was on the road. Are you stupid?

Seriously? Dude Texas will be lucky to win 8 games this year. They are very mediocre just like notre Dame.

[Strange Brew]

Can't catch a break. Poor, unfortunate Irish.

maybe they could catch a prostitute at U of L... Cardinal hears a ho. Haha.

[GoMuskies]

maybe they could catch a prostitute at U of L...

Ooh, burn.

[Strange Brew]

Ooh, burn.

Good one. I'll give you pumps and 15 secs to develop another..

[GoMuskies]

Good one. I'll give you pumps and 15 secs to develop another..

Sick wit.

[BandAid]

I'm a Notre Dame fan. They just aren't good right now. I hope Kelly just lets Kizer loose, because they have good weapons at the skill positions. They certainly aren't good enough to beat anyone with their defense this year.

[Strange Brew]

Well, at least NBC is happy. Oh ma gosh ND is back in it..

[GoMuskies]

Guess they got the reffing cleaned up.

[Strange Brew]

Guess they got the reffing cleaned up.

Well, this game should be around 35 or 42 to 28. This is tremendous high drama for NBC.

[GoMuskies]

What is that thing on the Notre Dame DC's face?

[Strange Brew]

CFB has become pro wrestling.

Seriously how does a D1 player f up cover 3

[Strange Brew]

What is that thing on the Notre Dame DC's face?

That's your best effort? I'm disappointed.

[GoMuskies]

Best effort at what? That was just weird.

[Strange Brew]

Best effort at what? That was just weird.

At an insult.

[GoMuskies]

Why would I insult ND? I might insult whiny ND fans, but I don't really care about ND.

[XUMIOH12]

At an insult.

you are CORFing pretty hard right now.

[XUMIOH12]

You know, you're so right. It's not like NDs first two TDs were called back or anything and MSU has been flagged once. I'm sure they're just that clean. Even Flutie is calling out the nonsense.

Ha, of course he is, he is the analyst for the NOTRE DAME broadcast.

[Strange Brew]

you are CORFing pretty hard right now.

Fair enough.

[Strange Brew]

Ha, of course he is, he is the analyst for the NOTRE DAME broadcast.

And a BC grad. Might as well have the Big O call X games

[XUMIOH12]

And a BC grad. Might as well have the Big O call X games

oh come on haha

[Strange Brew]

oh come on haha

So, Flutie is not the highest profile BC football grad? And ND and BC are not rivals?

[XUMIOH12]

So, Flutie is not the highest profile BC football grad? And ND and BC are not rivals?

if you think hes going to have a bias against ND announcing that game you are kidding yourself.

[Strange Brew]

Funny stat. MSU had 10 penalties for 120 yards against Furman but tonight they were near perfect. I guess bye weeks are miraculous.

ND will always be your huckleberry.

[Strange Brew]

Yes, you clearly are retarded.

I feel I'm going to not like this crow.

[Xville]

I feel I'm going to not like this crow.

Like I said Texas is going to be lucky to win 8 games. Just because they are Texas and they beat notre Dame does not make either of them good. That's why I thought it was a joke when Texas celebrated like they had won the national title the first week.

[Masterofreality]

Texas is highly ranked and that game was on the road. Are you stupid?


Yes, you clearly are retarded.

*Makes random, accusatory, demeaning statement*
*Checks Texas/California score*
*Slinks out back door silently*

[Porkopolis]

Because I don't want to talk about the bad things Louisville is going to do to my Thundering Herd, can we all take a moment to appreciate that Army is 3-0?

[GoMuskies]

With a 50 point whipping of UTEP. The Miners must be terrible, but that's still a score that sticks out.

[X-band '01]

When did Ole Miss suddenly change their mascot to the Minutemen? Their 21-point leads against Florida State and Alabama can be described as, umm, premature.

[XUMIOH12]

And a BC grad. Might as well have the Big O call X games

you must have a miserable time watching ND games then, considering the last 15-20 years have had Pat Haden, Mike Mayock and Doug Flutie announcing.

[GIMMFD]

Because I don't want to talk about the bad things Louisville is going to do to my Thundering Herd, can we all take a moment to appreciate that Army is 3-0?

Marshall lost to Akron... Louisville might pull Lamar Jackson after the first quarter against them... Doc Holliday has a lot of work to do to prep for these guys.

[Masterofreality]

Tweet:

Xavier Grad: Espn_Sims Notre Dame falls out of AP Top 25. Don't worry, with a strong practice tomorrow they'll be back in.

[X-band '01]

What will be fun this week is Showtime's weekly episode of Florida State football (they covered Notre Dame last season).

[xubrew]

This new trend of players dropping the ball before they get into the end zone may be yet another sign that we as a nation have passed the failsafe point for stupid. It's too late to turn back now.

[xudash]

Tweet:

Xavier Grad: Espn_Sims Notre Dame falls out of AP Top 25. Don't worry, with a strong practice tomorrow they'll be back in.

Now that's funny.

[GoMuskies]

Is Stonebreaker still around here? Does he live in Louisville. Just read a Stonebreaker post from the FSU board about Louisville, and if it's the same guy he can go fuck himself.

[Muskie]

Stoney is a ND fan. Doubt it was him.


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[GoMuskies]

Stoney is a ND fan. Doubt it was him.


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Oh, this guy was a Notre Dame fan.

[Masterofreality]

Tweet:

@DustinFox37 What a time to be alive. An FCS team received more AP votes than Notre Dame did this week. #NDSU

[GoMuskies]

Put NDSU in the playoffs! The FBS playoffs.

By the way, now that there's a playoff in the FBS, shouldn't they change the names of the divisions again. I've got a novel idea that I bet no one has ever thought of: I-A and I-AA.

[xubrew]

Tweet:

@DustinFox37 What a time to be alive. An FCS team received more AP votes than Notre Dame did this week. #NDSU

They are better than Notre Dame. They are better than a lot of teams.

[paulxu]

#11 Wisconsin eating up #8 MSU.

#23 Ole Miss killing #12 Georgia.

Somebody is losing money.

[GoMuskies]

Brian Kelly seems to be at risk of getting fired at halftime.

[Strange Brew]

Brian Kelly seems to be at risk of getting fired at halftime.

Yep, my Irish are not good. MOR is smart and I'm stupid. He's very good looking and I'm not attractive.....

[xu82]

Yep, my Irish are not good. MOR is smart and I'm stupid. He's very good looking and I'm not attractive.....

Don't be so hard on yourself.... Their offense isn't horrible. As for the rest of it??? It's hard to say...

[Strange Brew]

Don't be so hard on yourself.... Their offense isn't horrible. As for the rest of it??? It's hard to say...

The D is painful....to watch. The opponents are enjoying the pillow fight.

[xu82]

The D is painful....to watch. The opponents are enjoying the pillow fight.

How high does DeShone Kizer go in the draft? Too high for my Bills I know. We always mess up and win just enough to avoid the guy we want.

[X-band '01]

Same old Tennessee.

[Juice]

Jesus, I didn't realize that Duke lost to Northwestern and Wake already. That's miserable for them and ND.

[Juice]

Let's see who Brian Kelly blames this loss on

[GoMuskies]

Let's see who Brian Kelly blames this loss on

The DC surely gets fired, right?

[X-band '01]

I spoke too soon. Vols have scored 38 in the 2nd half. Gators haven't had a 1st down since the 2nd quarter.

[Strange Brew]

The DC surely gets fired, right?

Doubt it, he's Brian's boy.

[mohr5150]

I have vowed to stop giving a shit about ND football until they fired the UC idiot Kelly. I might get to start watching them sooner than later.

[Strange Brew]

I have vowed to stop giving a shit about ND football until they fired the UC idiot Kelly. I might get to start watching them sooner than later.

I may not come back. I think CU or AF may be more fun to watch.

[Juice]

Let's see who Brian Kelly blames this loss on

And there it is... https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/779845355814920192

[paulxu]

Auburn/LSU was just sick.

[xudash]

Auburn/LSU was just sick.

The thrill of victory, and the agony of :01.

[XUMIOH12]

Don't be so hard on yourself.... Their offense isn't horrible. As for the rest of it??? It's hard to say...

the rest of it must be because of the refs

[GoMuskies]

Let's see who Brian Kelly blames this loss on

Actually, that's probably the one area that I feel better about today," Kelly said. "We did what I wanted today in terms of coaching. And coaching had nothing to do with the outcome today. I was pleased from that perspective."

[xubrew]

I actually love that Brian Kelly said that. It was perhaps a dumb thing to say, but that doesn't make me like it any less. At least it was candid. And, he may not be entirely wrong.

[xubrew]

So, next weekend we've got Stanford v Washington, Louisville v Clemson, and Wisconsin v Michigan. I don't recall the last time there were three top ten match ups all in the same day. You're lucky if you get one every couple of weeks. We've got three in one day this Saturday!

[GoMuskies]

I will be quite interested in that Louisville /Clemson game (note understatement). Bobby Petrino is 62-18 in two stints at Louisville, but he's 0-4 against ranked opponents in true road games. Hopefully it's time to end that streak.

[paulxu]

Since the Gamecocks sorta suck this year; well, most years...I just as soon you go ahead and beat Clempson like a rented mule.

[Strange Brew]

Doubt it, he's Brian's boy.

Well, I was wrong. BVG gone as of this morning.

[Strange Brew]

the rest of it must be because of the refs

Nah, the refs were pretty good yesterday and let the teams play. Last week was a different story.

[paulxu]

Kelly said. "We did what I wanted today in terms of coaching. And coaching had nothing to do with the outcome today. I was pleased from that perspective."


Well, I was wrong. BVG gone as of this morning.

One of these things is not like the other.

[Strange Brew]

One of these things is not like the other.

Maybe he meant HIS coaching was not the issue. I partly agree, ND is really soft and has been for a while.