Chris Mack at Elder Stag

[birdman71]

Thursday night I was one of about 600 or 700 at the Elder sports stag. Nice event. Chris was the featured speaker and did well. He said that we will be pleased with next year's big men. He believes we will be 4 strong underneath and mentioned O'Mara first as someone who will meet the challenge and step up to fill the void. I think that either Sean is not leaving or Chris just didn't know it. He said a bit too much to seem to know it.
Sounds like he and Kelsey are still very close as they had been texting a lot about the Elder/St. X rivalry.
Questions not good and included:
-Brianna or Beyoncé [really!] ....A. Christie Mack
- Are you going to Louisville.......A. Yes! Next Easter to visit the in laws.
He ripped off his shirt at the end to reveal an Elder tee shirt.

Anyone else there?

[Juice]

Thursday night I was one of about 600 or 700 at the Elder sports stag. Nice event. Chris was the featured speaker and did well. He said that we will be pleased with next year's big men. He believes we will be 4 strong underneath and mentioned O'Mara first as someone who will meet the challenge and step up to fill the void. I think that either Sean is not leaving or Chris just didn't know it. He said a bit too much to seem to know it.
Sounds like he and Kelsey are still very close as they had been texting a lot about the Elder/St. X rivalry.
Questions not good and included:
-Brianna or Beyoncé [really!] ....A. Christie Mack
- Are you going to Louisville.......A. Yes! Next Easter to visit the in laws.
He ripped off his shirt at the end to reveal an Elder tee shirt.

Anyone else there?

What a traitor

[Muskie]

- Are you going to Louisville.......A. Yes! Next Easter to visit the in laws.
He ripped off his shirt at the end to reveal an Elder tee shirt.


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Excellent answer.

[GoMuskies]

He's not going 100 miles down the road to visit his in-laws until next Easter?!? Sounds like he's a terrible son-in-law.

Also, does he give advice on how he avoids visiting his in-laws for that long? I'm very interested in this subject. (Purely an academic interest, of course!).

[casualfan]

Didn't the Omara stuff come out Saturday?

[bleedXblue]

Didn't the Omara stuff come out Saturday?

Yes, point being that Mack must have had no idea regarding O'Mara otherwise he would have said nothing at all.

[bleedXblue]

Was there as well. I was lucky enough to talk to him for about 5 minutes prior to the dinner event. Good guy. Very personable. He did a great job and of course represented the program very well. He did promise to wear and purple tie for the Crosstown Shootout next year. Very cool!

[XUGRAD80]

Elder s**Ks.....:)

Hail Spartans!

[basket]

Elder s**Ks.....:)

Hail Spartans!


I would like to know how a St.X grad could show himself on "that side of town"!?
I agree 100% with the Spartans line AND the quote about Elder!!

[gladdenguy]

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[ammtd34]

I'm a big Christie Mack fan also.

Oh. He meant his wife.

[ReturnOfTheMack]

I would like to know how a St.X grad could show himself on "that side of town"!?
I agree 100% with the Spartans line AND the quote about Elder!!

Probably more than half of St. X grads are from "that side of town".

Oh, and Go Big Moe.

[muskiefan82]

He ripped off his shirt at the end to reveal an Elder tee shirt.



He couldn't find a Prince shirt, so he bought the first purple thing he could find. Nothing to see here, people. Nothing to see. Move along.

[nuts4xu]

Yes, point being that Mack must have had no idea regarding O'Mara otherwise he would have said nothing at all.

I am sure Coach Mack is very well informed regarding the intentions of Sean O'Mara. As of yesterday (and today) there is nothing new to report, and Sean is still very much a part of this program. Coach will continue to speak highly of O'Mara's skills and prospects for next season until it is next season, or Sean officially becomes a transfer.

What did you think he would say "Yea Sean is struggling with his decision to stay or go, but we wish him the best"? To say anything about the situation is not fair to Sean or the process.

It is naive to think Mack has "no idea" about O'Mara. It was neither the time nor the place to discuss a hypothetical transfer of a current player that may or may not happen.

[XUFan09]

Yes, point being that Mack must have had no idea regarding O'Mara otherwise he would have said nothing at all.
Why? It's not like O'Mara would be a taboo subject for him. He's not going to act like one of his players doesn't exist just because he's simply considering a transfer.

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[xeus]

I would like to know how a St.X grad could show himself on "that side of town"!?


I guess you're not from around here.

[bleedXblue]

Why? It's not like O'Mara would be a taboo subject for him. He's not going to act like one of his players doesn't exist just because he's simply considering a transfer.

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LOL. Man some of you guys are really unbelievable. He wasn't responding to a direct question about Sean. He was simply talking about the program and updating the audience on next year. He specifically brought of Sean and spoke of his prospects for next year. There is no way in hell he does that if he has any inclination that he may transfer. He could have talked about lots of other guys and steered clear of him. Go ahead and debate it. Unless you were there, you're wrong.

[Xavier]

Huh? You don't think if he talked about everyone but Sean people wouldn't wonder what was going on? Its just another coaches speak sort of thing. Some people understand why coaches say things and others get really angry (Like when Thad left for OSU).

[birdman71]

LOL. Man some of you guys are really unbelievable. He wasn't responding to a direct question about Sean. He was simply talking about the program and updating the audience on next year. He specifically brought of Sean and spoke of his prospects for next year. There is no way in hell he does that if he has any inclination that he may transfer. He could have talked about lots of other guys and steered clear of him. Go ahead and debate it. Unless you were there, you're wrong.

True. You get it. And as you know, I was there. He not only talked about Sean.....he talked the MOST about Sean. I don't think he would have done so if he thought Sean was leaving.

[XUFan09]

LOL. Man some of you guys are really unbelievable. He wasn't responding to a direct question about Sean. He was simply talking about the program and updating the audience on next year. He specifically brought of Sean and spoke of his prospects for next year. There is no way in hell he does that if he has any inclination that he may transfer. He could have talked about lots of other guys and steered clear of him. Go ahead and debate it. Unless you were there, you're wrong.
I know he wasn't answering a direct question about Sean. Still, that doesn't prevent him from talking about him, even if he knows the possibility of a transfer. In fact, he might feel more inclined to bring up a guy who is thinking about transferring, as the guy he worries about losing would have to be on his mind a lot. Also, don't forget that the center position is the easily the most debatable position coming into next year so it's plainly more interesting to talk about too.

Let's turn this around. What harm would be caused by Mack talking about a promising player who then ends up transferring? You act like some negative effect would occur, which would prevent Mack bringing it up due to the risk. Really, no one would care that he brought O'Mara up in that circumstance, so there's not an external motivation. So, what would be Mack's motivation for not talking about him?

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[drudy23]

I would like to know how a St.X grad could show himself on "that side of town"!?
I agree 100% with the Spartans line AND the quote about Elder!!

Go pinky sip some wine.

[Emp]

Coached me some Spartans in my day. Fine Bunch. Then and now. As a SemiSpartan, I approve their messages.

[XUGRAD80]

I would guess that probably most of the XU grads from the Cincy area have some type of GCL connection. For me....RB grad, trained at X in the summers, taught/coached at Moeller, friends with grads from all the other schools including some schools that are no longer part of the GCL. So, any of you that might think any of this back and forth between grads of the various High Schools here is in any way serious....IT IS! JUST KIDDING! Actually, I will support all of the other schools except when they play Bacon, but I also am going to take every opportunity I get to give a little poke when I can.....:). Don't take it seriously.

[basket]

Why? It's not like O'Mara would be a taboo subject for him. He's not going to act like one of his players doesn't exist just because he's simply considering a transfer.

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Oh yes I am! Going to a rival H.S WOULD/SHOULD not be in his cards! Heck if he can rip UD why cant he do the same to Elder?! In all serious he can and should do whatever makes him happy! He certainly does NOT need my or your approval to go to Elder. I just thought it kind of interesting that a St.X grad is fraternizing with Elder grads!!

[scoscox]

Oh yes I am! Going to a rival H.S WOULD/SHOULD not be in his cards! Heck if he can rip UD why cant he do the same to Elder?! In all serious he can and should do whatever makes him happy! He certainly does NOT need my or your approval to go to Elder. I just thought it kind of interesting that a St.X grad is fraternizing with Elder grads!!

It is odd, but he is 40 years old and head coach at XU, so I think he has an ability to transcend that stuff. Still, it's almost sacrilege.

[drudy23]

"That's alright, that's ok, you will work for us someday"...followed by...

"We will fight you"...clap clap clap clap clap..."we will fight you"....clap clap clap clap clap

[XU-XHI]

I would like to know how a St.X grad could show himself on "that side of town"!?
"That side of town" is one of the biggest feeders to St. X. We have a lot of St. X Blue on the West/Best side! St. Antoninus, proud alum, is typically the 2nd largest feeder to X behind St. Vivians. Go X's!!

[Milhouse]

My biggest knock against this city is everyone cares way too much about where people went to high school...I felt that way when as soon as I got here and I realized no one cares where you went to college just where you went to high school. Very annoying.

[Cheesehead]

My biggest knock against this city is everyone cares way too much about where people went to high school...I felt that way when as soon as I got here and I realized no one cares where you went to college just where you went to high school. Very annoying.

I would tend to agree with this. When I tell folks I went to HS out of state they are almost disappointed because they cannot pre-judge me.

[drudy23]

St. Antoninus, proud alum, is typically the 2nd largest feeder to X behind St. Vivians. Go X's!!

Um...no it's not...not even close.

[Juice]

Um...no it's not...not even close.

Yeah that seemed wrong. I'm going to guess St. James White Oak, some east side schools like Pacelli and St. Mary's, etc.

[Masterofreality]

My biggest knock against this city is everyone cares way too much about where people went to high school...I felt that way when as soon as I got here and I realized no one cares where you went to college just where you went to high school. Very annoying.

Know what? Maybe it's an Ohio thing because the same is true in Cleveland, but I always thought it was because there were no real big time colleges up here. Case Western is a superb school, but Cleveland State is not going to float anyone's boat.

[Xavier]

Know what? Maybe it's an Ohio thing because the same is true in Cleveland, but I always thought it was because there were no real big time colleges up here. Case Western is a superb school, but Cleveland State is not going to float anyone's boat.

That is interesting, I thought it was a Cincinnati thing. A lot of people who live here grew up here, I ask as a way to see if there is any connection between us. Beyond that, I couldn't care less. I'm shocked some on here take it so seriously. (Though, I am hoping it's a bit of sarcasm on their part. If not, it's time to grow up)

[waggy]

It's not sarcasm I don't think. There's definitely some snobbery that goes along with the high school question in Cincy. I mean there's Indian Hill and everyone else anyway.

[XUGRAD80]

Maybe it's that the few hairs I have left are grey, but I don't seem to get asked any questions about my HS anymore......:(. But then again, since moving across the river to Kentucky some years back, it's now all about what county you're from.....:)

[GIMMFD]

I would tend to agree with this. When I tell folks I went to HS out of state they are almost disappointed because they cannot pre-judge me.

100%, most often asked question when I met someone at Xavier was "Where'd you go to HS?".. Though it is prominent when I visit friends at WVU/Marshall, just because a lot of in-state/in-area kids are always curious to know how close you are, and if you have any mutual friends, but in Cinci it felt a little different.

[Milhouse]

Know what? Maybe it's an Ohio thing because the same is true in Cleveland, but I always thought it was because there were no real big time colleges up here. Case Western is a superb school, but Cleveland State is not going to float anyone's boat.

I've also heard its really common in St. Louis as well. Cincinnati, Cleveland, & St. Louis are the kind of midwestern cities where a lot of people grow up there, perhaps go off to college (or stay home), and come back and live the rest of their lives there. And there is nothing wrong with that. It just seems like a lot of people assume everyone does that here. It's one thing if the first question is "are you from here or where are you from?" but I often find it's assumed and it's where did you go to (high) school?

I like cincy a lot, but it is certainly a bubble city- I think its growing and trying to get away from that some but it's not there yet.

[muskiefan82]

I confuse people when this question comes up. when I run into new people in Anderson Township and they ask what High School I answer Walnut Hills. That doesn't tell them where I'm from, so they then inevitably ask if I grew up in Anderson since it iis not part of the Cincinnati Public School District. That's when I completely blow their minds because I grew up in Western Hills. They have no idea what to do. It's actually quite amusing.

[STL_XUfan]

I've also heard its really common in St. Louis as well. Cincinnati, Cleveland, & St. Louis are the kind of midwestern cities where a lot of people grow up there, perhaps go off to college (or stay home), and come back and live the rest of their lives there. And there is nothing wrong with that. It just seems like a lot of people assume everyone does that here. It's one thing if the first question is "are you from here or where are you from?" but I often find it's assumed and it's where did you go to (high) school?

I like cincy a lot, but it is certainly a bubble city- I think its growing and trying to get away from that some but it's not there yet.

All of the inside jokes that Cincinnatians thinks are unique to Cincinnati are exactly the same inside jokes that St. Louisians think are unique to St. Louis.

[scoscox]

Yeah that seemed wrong. I'm going to guess St. James White Oak, some east side schools like Pacelli and St. Mary's, etc.

Visitation and St. James are probably the two biggest feeders from the west side. The majority of St. X students are west-siders. A majority of east-siders end up going to Moeller. (SMOY, All Saints, St. Susanna, OLSH)

I think a lot of the importance comes from the fact that a lot of those cincinnati high schools are not co-ed. I think that tends to lead to more competition between schools.

[gladdenguy]

Nothing wrong with people who think highly of high schools. One could argue the high school years are more important than the college years....especially if you worked your a$$ off and received a scholarship to pave your way to having zero loans after earning a degree.

Here is my two cents. If I'm going to give money I'm giving it to my high school. I can see why people don't care about their public high schools. Hell, it was free!!!!! They shouldn't care. But my parents paid for me to go to high school and I will pay for my girls to go to high school. The difference of parental support is astronomical in private vs public on the west side of Cincinnati. I would like to see the high schools continue to flourish.

As for Cincinnati high school opinions. The people who complain about the high school talk probably did not go to a private school. Little envious? Absolutely. Lets talk about college which happened a couple years later? Give me a break. Talk about what you wanna talk about....whether be high school or college. But lets not say, "shut up about high school, grow up, but where did you go to college". Thats ridiculous. If you don't care about either.....more props to you.

[XUFan09]

All of the inside jokes that Cincinnatians thinks are unique to Cincinnati are exactly the same inside jokes that St. Louisians think are unique to St. Louis.
Yes. A thousands times yes.

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[Milhouse]

As for Cincinnati high school opinions. The people who complain about the high school talk probably did not go to a private school. Little envious? Absolutely. Lets talk about college which happened a couple years later? Give me a break. Talk about what you wanna talk about....whether be high school or college. But lets not say, "shut up about high school, grow up, but where did you go to college". Thats ridiculous. If you don't care about either.....more props to you.

This is just hilarious on so many levels, I have not and will never been envious of any high school in this country let alone this city. And I went to a pretty good private high school. Just not in Cincinnati-does it count as private if its not in cincinnati? Hey if you loved high school more power to you...but just don't ask me where I went. I also don't care where you went. Elder, St. X, Moeller, these aren't impressive to me by any means.

That continues another issue...the whole westside vs. eastside thing. I don't understand it. I don't want to understand it either. The neighborhood thing obviously isn't a cincinnati thing- but classifying the city in two halves of eastside vs. westside is just...I don't even know.

[nuts4xu]

...but just don't ask me where I went. I also don't care where you went.

As someone in sales, and someone who meets new people on a regular basis...an easy way to break the ice is to find out where they are from. I recognized early in my career, it made more sense to ask "are you from here in town" or "where did you grow up" as opposed to pinning someone down for their specific school. Many of my current customers are located in other parts of the country, and are often transplanted from other cities. I understand why people ask about your high school, and it usually not meant to offend or annoy anyone. It is just a way to make conversation...but I also see how it can grind your gears if you aren't from here.

I grew up attending catholic (private) grade school and high school (and college for that matter) but I realize not everyone had the same experience. In my opinion, many of the public school systems offer great options, and we have many fabulous public schools in this town. Many kids are better off to attend public schools because they offer programs for learning disabilities or special needs. My understanding was the private school systems were often viewed as a "better" education a few decades ago. They often would pay the teachers better, which lead to better teachers. I don't believe this to be the case today (if it was accurate to begin with).

So if I were to ask you were you went to school, I am curious to learn where you grew up to see if I can find a latent connection of some type...not to assess your personal wealth or to impress you.

[GoMuskies]

If I ask where you went to high school, it's to find out if you went to Trinity. And if you did, I hate you.

But otherwise it's not meant to offend.

[MADXSTER]

I cannot for the life of me figure out why, Asking where someone went to highschool could be offensive. ??? WTF Find a your safe place.

[Milhouse]

As someone in sales, and someone who meets new people on a regular basis...an easy way to break the ice is to find out where they are from. I recognized early in my career, it made more sense to ask "are you from here in town" or "where did you grow up" as opposed to pinning someone down for their specific school. Many of my current customers are located in other parts of the country, and are often transplanted from other cities. I understand why people ask about your high school, and it usually not meant to offend or annoy anyone. It is just a way to make conversation...but I also see how it can grind your gears if you aren't from here.

I grew up attending catholic (private) grade school and high school (and college for that matter) but I realize not everyone had the same experience. In my opinion, many of the public school systems offer great options, and we have many fabulous public schools in this town. Many kids are better off to attend public schools because they offer programs for learning disabilities or special needs. My understanding was the private school systems were often viewed as a "better" education a few decades ago. They often would pay the teachers better, which lead to better teachers. I don't believe this to be the case today (if it was accurate to begin with).

So if I were to ask you were you went to school, I am curious to learn where you grew up to see if I can find a latent connection of some type...not to assess your personal wealth or to impress you.

This I understand- and those are common questions when meeting people- where are you from originally/where did you go to college etc...

It's not offensive and I never said that. It's a minor annoyance that some people assume everyone is from Cincinnati and has lived here their whole life. Just adds fodder to it being a rather isolated city- which many outsiders do believe. And plenty of people do use it as a gauge of social status, while others use it as a means to make a connection. I've visited my fair share of cities (for my age) and spent extended time in a handful, but Cincinnati is the only one I've inquired about constantly where I went to high school- and this started my first weekend on campus...

[Juice]

Visitation and St. James are probably the two biggest feeders from the west side. The majority of St. X students are west-siders. A majority of east-siders end up going to Moeller. (SMOY, All Saints, St. Susanna, OLSH)

I think a lot of the importance comes from the fact that a lot of those cincinnati high schools are not co-ed. I think that tends to lead to more competition between schools.

Only 4 schools for guys are single sex, girls have a lot more. There are actually a lot more co-ed Catholic schools in Cincinnati than there are guys-only schools.

[Masterofreality]

If I ask where you went to high school, it's to find out if you went to Trinity. And if you did, I hate you.

But otherwise it's not meant to offend.

U must be a St. X guy. Too young for Flaget, I assume. :lmao:

[Masterofreality]

Only 4 schools for guys are single sex, girls have a lot more.

Might want to re-phrase that. :biggrin:

[xeus]

To the pissy out-of-towners: If this element of Cincinnati culture annoys you, or offends you, ignore it. You also don't have to eat Skyline, go to Catholic festivals, cheer for the Reds, or care about the Crosstown Shootout. Move on.

To the out-of-towners who went to Catholic high school: That's great. If I went to Brebeuf, or Marquette, or St Ignatius, I'd be proud. I find that usually gets you into the club in Cincinnati. In fact, most of us know that it's not your fault you're not from Cincinnati - but at least you tried to up your game by choosing the next best option, a Catholic high school in your city. Point is, it means we have lots in common...

To the locals not from catholic high schools: I personally don't judge you for where you went, I just think we all like to know. Yes, I think St X is superior, but I don't care if you went to West Hi, Sycamore, or Bethel Tate. You're a Cincinnatian. And for the record, I will always rank a person FROM Cincinnati higher than an outsider who went to the finest high school anywhere else.

[Juice]

Might want to re-phrase that. :biggrin:

Haha, what a shit show of a sentence.

[paulxu]

All of the inside jokes that Cincinnatians thinks are unique to Cincinnati are exactly the same inside jokes that St. Louisians think are unique to St. Louis.

What? They have a "Reds Hater" thread?

[gladdenguy]

This is just hilarious on so many levels, I have not and will never been envious of any high school in this country let alone this city. And I went to a pretty good private high school. Just not in Cincinnati-does it count as private if its not in cincinnati? Hey if you loved high school more power to you...but just don't ask me where I went. I also don't care where you went. Elder, St. X, Moeller, these aren't impressive to me by any means.

That continues another issue...the whole westside vs. eastside thing. I don't understand it. I don't want to understand it either. The neighborhood thing obviously isn't a cincinnati thing- but classifying the city in two halves of eastside vs. westside is just...I don't even know.

I don't care what part of the country you are from. I simply said if your parents pay for schooling both you and your parents should be damn proud of where you went to high school. It's not any different than where you went to college (except a larger dollar amount). Cincinnati or not.....you paid for high school. Be proud. If you're not proud I don't give a shit....but don't harp on those who are proud of it.

As for the west side vs. east side thing and schooling....this is just my opinion with academics and culture of schools. I don't brag about one side being better than the other. Again, I couldn't care less.

West side - I wouldn't send my children to a public school if I can afford a private school.

East side - I would consider sending my children to a public school but probably wouldn't if I can afford a private school.

IF you don't understand nor care about high school I don't know why you are even posting about it. Strange. I definitely didn't ask you where you went to high school and obviously you aren't gonna ask me. But guess what, I am damn proud of where I went to high school.

[Milhouse]

Probably just jealous of the private schools I was misfortune enough to not attend I suppose.

[gladdenguy]

Probably just jealous of the private schools I was misfortune enough to not attend I suppose.

That is about the only conclusion I have as well. At least you now realize you are that guy/girl.

[muskiefan82]

I went to a public school. Walnut Hills. I think I'll be okay.

[scoscox]

Only 4 schools for guys are single sex, girls have a lot more. There are actually a lot more co-ed Catholic schools in Cincinnati than there are guys-only schools.

True, but having 4 of the most prestigious schools in the area be all-guys is rare, to go along with the all-girls schools. I don't know I don't really understand why it upsets people so much. Usually it seems to be out of towners, but the rivalry between high schools is always fun I think. Obviously at a certain point no one cares, but it's no secret that high school sports and especially football are a huge deal in cincinnati and that plays into it. The GCL south has been rated the best prep football conference in the country by a few different sites. It's part of Cincinnati. It's fun in my opinion.

[XUFan09]

What? They have a "Reds Hater" thread?
Lol probably not that, at least. That rivalry is a bit off balance in terms of degree of hatred.

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[GIMMFD]

To the pissy out-of-towners: If this element of Cincinnati culture annoys you, or offends you, ignore it. You also don't have to eat Skyline, go to Catholic festivals, cheer for the Reds, or care about the Crosstown Shootout. Move on.

To the out-of-towners who went to Catholic high school: That's great. If I went to Brebeuf, or Marquette, or St Ignatius, I'd be proud. I find that usually gets you into the club in Cincinnati. In fact, most of us know that it's not your fault you're not from Cincinnati - but at least you tried to up your game by choosing the next best option, a Catholic high school in your city. Point is, it means we have lots in common...

To the locals not from catholic high schools: I personally don't judge you for where you went, I just think we all like to know. Yes, I think St X is superior, but I don't care if you went to West Hi, Sycamore, or Bethel Tate. You're a Cincinnatian. And for the record, I will always rank a person FROM Cincinnati higher than an outsider who went to the finest high school anywhere else.

I'm not a pissy out-of-towner, as I said, I didn't really get the whole high school thing, I love Cincinnati culture, that place was a new home to me for 4 years, I loved the Xavier experience, I loved everything about where I was and made the right choice. Maybe it's because I went to a public high school in West Virginia (for the record, the most hated high school in West Virginia barring Parkersburg maybe), but I never found it anything crazy back home. In Cincinnati I just saw fellow classmates and stuff get into MAJOR fights about it, and even Cleveland kids calling Hoban kids "Walsh rejects" or something along that lines. I think a lot of it is just people loving to get a sense of where exactly you're from in the city, because in West Virginia we tag the high school question more with "What city are you from?" since we have no major area like Cincinnati, thus it's not really a East vs. West battle in the city. I don't know, but I promise you that I don't hate the Cincinnati culture. That's for damn sure.

[blobfan]

Some of us just don't understand why people hang onto high school snobbery. For the record, I went to a fantastic public school in another town. Catholic schools in my area couldn't come close to the level of education I got.

But it was freaking high school! Long, long in the past.

[LadyMuskie]

Some of us just don't understand why people hang onto high school snobbery. For the record, I went to a fantastic public school in another town. Catholic schools in my area couldn't come close to the level of education I got.

But it was freaking high school! Long, long in the past.

I don't know that it's really snobbery. For many of us - especially those of us on the westside who are Catholic- our high school is a part of our family and a part of our history. My mom, grandmas, aunts (on both sides), great -aunts(on both sides) cousins and sister all went to the same high school I did. We all walked those same halls and to this day our pictures all hang on the walls from the very first class to graduate up to the current senior class. And once we have kids, we take them back for plays, sporting events, Easter Egg hunts, etc. to share with them a little bit of who we were.

High school around here isn't just 4 years of school. No, high school is a community, and like any community it stays with you even after you've left its immediate area. I hope my daughter chooses my Alma mater, but if she doesn't I know there are two other perfectly wonderful all-girl schools I'd like her to choose from that will give her that same sense of community I got in high school.

[xu82]

I don't know that it's really snobbery. For many of us - especially those of us on the westside who are Catholic- our high school is a part of our family and a part of our history. My mom, grandmas, aunts (on both sides), great -aunts(on both sides) cousins and sister all went to the same high school I did. We all walked those same halls and to this day our pictures all hang on the walls from the very first class to graduate up to the current senior class. And once we have kids, we take them back for plays, sporting events, Easter Egg hunts, etc. to share with them a little bit of who we were.

High school around here isn't just 4 years of school. No, high school is a community, and like any community it stays with you even after you've left its immediate area. I hope my daughter chooses my Alma mater, but if she doesn't I know there are two other perfectly wonderful all-girl schools I'd like her to choose from that will give her that same sense of community I got in high school.

I happen to be back in the place I consider home, having lived here longer than any other place. It's a celebration vacation with both sons (and a grandson!) coming in. Our best friends in the world were found through the community that exists with the catholic schools and churches here. We've tried to find that same feel just through the church, but there's nothing like that bonding you get through young kids and schools. As for Cincy, relax folks.

[XUGRAD80]

I think that Ladymuskie hit it on the head.....community. When my family moved to the Cincy area, my sister, my brothers, and I were immediately enrolled in Catholic elementary school, and then we all went to Catholic HS. Because of this we were never made to really feel a part of the actual community we resided in. We became a part of the Bacon family when my oldest brother enrolled there. So my "years" associated with that HS community stretched well beyond the 4 years I spent there myself. When I meet someone that also went to thst school, or even someone thst went to another Catholic HS in the area, we immediately have something in common, because the GCL really is a fraternity within the city. We share our experiences. Through XU and through associations with my career and even my children's careers I have met alumni of virtually every Catholic HS in the Cincinnati area and it's almost remarkable how similar our expereinces have been, no matter which school we have attended. This gives us a sense of belonging and familiarity, even if we grew up or live in different areas of the region. I'm way past the age where the question " where'd you go to HS?" comes up very often, but when it does and we find that point of similarity, we almost always find things that we have in common.

[Cheesehead]

I went to one of the best public HS's in Wisconsin for academics and among the best in Midwest. It was an affluent area and the facilities were ridiculous (Two pools, two gyms including a Fieldhouse that seated 2,500. Having said this, I couldn't stand most of the mf'ers I went to HS with.

I have been here long enough to accept the whole HS thing in Cincy but I still think it's a little weird.

[Drew]

This thread sure is something.

[GIMMFD]

I don't know that it's really snobbery. For many of us - especially those of us on the westside who are Catholic- our high school is a part of our family and a part of our history. My mom, grandmas, aunts (on both sides), great -aunts(on both sides) cousins and sister all went to the same high school I did. We all walked those same halls and to this day our pictures all hang on the walls from the very first class to graduate up to the current senior class. And once we have kids, we take them back for plays, sporting events, Easter Egg hunts, etc. to share with them a little bit of who we were.

High school around here isn't just 4 years of school. No, high school is a community, and like any community it stays with you even after you've left its immediate area. I hope my daughter chooses my Alma mater, but if she doesn't I know there are two other perfectly wonderful all-girl schools I'd like her to choose from that will give her that same sense of community I got in high school.

Okay I think I get it now, it's not asked in a way to portray snobbery, it's more of a "I wonder if you're in my community" thing right? It's not gloating you went to St. X or Moeller or whatever, but more-so having a special connection if you happen to run into someone from the same high school. I guess it's automatically something to talk about and connect you with a person.

[GoMuskies]

Well, when I ask someone from Louisville, I'm not necessarily trying to figure out if they're from St. X. I'm trying to figure out what neighborhood they're from, who they might know and what sorts of things they might have experienced. High school is a quick shorthand for a lot of that.

[xu82]

When Michael Jordan was pretending to play baseball he spent a lot of time near where we lived. He hung out at a place near our house, and we knew a lot of people who ran into him there. People would be awestruck, but then he'd say "so, where are you from?" People can always talk about that, and it helped to break the ice. Even if you don't find common ground, it gets a conversation started.

[birdman71]

''When some loud braggart tries to put me down
and says his school is great
I tell him right away, now whatsa matter buddy ain't you hearda my school?
We're number one in the state.
So be true to your school!
Just like you would to your girl!

The Beach Boys, 1963

[Strange Brew]

If I ask where you went to high school, it's to find out if you went to Trinity. And if you did, I hate you.

But otherwise it's not meant to offend.

Your HS has a nice baseball complex BTW. Only placed I played that had a stealth bomber fly by during the game.

[LadyMuskie]

Okay I think I get it now, it's not asked in a way to portray snobbery, it's more of a "I wonder if you're in my community" thing right? It's not gloating you went to St. X or Moeller or whatever, but more-so having a special connection if you happen to run into someone from the same high school. I guess it's automatically something to talk about and connect you with a person.

I'm sure there are some a-holes who act like they're God's gift to society because they attended one high school or another, but I really think overall it is about community. Having said that, there are definitely rivalries, but I think it's less pronounced than it once was now that there are no feeder grade schools. Half of my daughter's class will probably attend Mercy and the other half Seton, while the boys will split 70% to Elder and 30% to St. X. Back in the day, you didn't have much of a choice. You went to Elder or Seton because your school fed Elder or Seton. Today that's not the case, and I think that's a good thing. Most of the friends I've made since my daughter started school are from the girls high school I didn't attend. Turns out, they're normal, nice, fun people and not the ogres and trolls I thought they were 20 years ago :wink:

[GoMuskies]

Your HS has a nice baseball complex BTW. Only placed I played that had a stealth bomber fly by during the game.

You must have played there pretty recently, because I played on the "amazing" field at the back of this picture:

http://yb.cmcdn.com/yearbooks/3/7/7/6/3776d4a7519582f23449cfa876fbc5b6/440/0002.jpg?h=6778e0a47902a864350e970ece56e3d6

Today, they play on the field shown at the top of the photo below, which I've never been to, but does, in fact, look quite sweet.

http://environsinc.com/wp-content/gallery/saint-xavier/aerial-st-x.jpg

[Lamont Sanford]

Go -

The Lou StX tennis facility is amazing. That certainly cost them a pretty penny to carve the facility out of the rock wall.

[Strange Brew]

You must have played there pretty recently, because I played on the "amazing" field at the back of this picture:

http://yb.cmcdn.com/yearbooks/3/7/7/6/3776d4a7519582f23449cfa876fbc5b6/440/0002.jpg?h=6778e0a47902a864350e970ece56e3d6

Today, they play on the field shown at the top of the photo below, which I've never been to, but does, in fact, look quite sweet.

http://environsinc.com/wp-content/gallery/saint-xavier/aerial-st-x.jpg

Huh, guess it was the one in the top pic. Funny what 19 years and the memory of a fly by can do one's perception.

[GIMMFD]

Dear lord, how many students attend that monster of a high school!?

[blobfan]

I don't know that it's really snobbery. For many of us - especially those of us on the westside who are Catholic- our high school is a part of our family and a part of our history. My mom, grandmas, aunts (on both sides), great -aunts(on both sides) cousins and sister all went to the same high school I did. We all walked those same halls and to this day our pictures all hang on the walls from the very first class to graduate up to the current senior class. And once we have kids, we take them back for plays, sporting events, Easter Egg hunts, etc. to share with them a little bit of who we were.

High school around here isn't just 4 years of school. No, high school is a community, and like any community it stays with you even after you've left its immediate area. I hope my daughter chooses my Alma mater, but if she doesn't I know there are two other perfectly wonderful all-girl schools I'd like her to choose from that will give her that same sense of community I got in high school.

Read the posts. Some do seem in all seriousness to be holding themselves or their experience as better due to their high school. That's not about community. Even your response seems to suggest the question is used to sort out 'the other' from your community. Forgive me if as an other that seems like snobbery. I'm sure that's colored by my experience upon moving to Cincinnati when people would ask where I went to high school then become disinterested when they realized I wasn't a local. They didn't actually care where I went. They wanted to know if I qualified as being on their acceptable list. And that's snobbery. And when it's asked ahead of other questions more usual in the rest of the world (where are you from? where do you work?) it suggests the answer is of highest importance to the person asking. It's a strange phenomenon in this town that people seem to think high school was more important than everything that happened since.

It's not just about the question. It's how quick it comes and the response that follows the answer.

[Juice]

Read the posts. Some do seem in all seriousness to be holding themselves or their experience as better due to their high school. That's not about community. Even your response seems to suggest the question is used to sort out 'the other' from your community. Forgive me if as an other that seems like snobbery. I'm sure that's colored by my experience upon moving to Cincinnati when people would ask where I went to high school then become disinterested when they realized I wasn't a local. They didn't actually care where I went. They wanted to know if I qualified as being on their acceptable list. And that's snobbery. And when it's asked ahead of other questions more usual in the rest of the world (where are you from? where do you work?) it suggests the answer is of highest importance to the person asking. It's a strange phenomenon in this town that people seem to think high school was more important than everything that happened since.

It's not just about the question. It's how quick it comes and the response that follows the answer.

X A V - I E R, we're number 1 and we know we are...

Pump our gas, pump our gas...

[GoMuskies]

Dear lord, how many students attend that monster of a high school!?

1300 boys

[LadyMuskie]

Read the posts. Some do seem in all seriousness to be holding themselves or their experience as better due to their high school. That's not about community. Even your response seems to suggest the question is used to sort out 'the other' from your community. Forgive me if as an other that seems like snobbery. I'm sure that's colored by my experience upon moving to Cincinnati when people would ask where I went to high school then become disinterested when they realized I wasn't a local. They didn't actually care where I went. They wanted to know if I qualified as being on their acceptable list. And that's snobbery. And when it's asked ahead of other questions more usual in the rest of the world (where are you from? where do you work?) it suggests the answer is of highest importance to the person asking. It's a strange phenomenon in this town that people seem to think high school was more important than everything that happened since.

It's not just about the question. It's how quick it comes and the response that follows the answer.

1st of all, I've been called many things but snob over being proud of my high school isn't one of them. It literally made me laugh out loud. All the westside Catholic high schools sit in crappy neighborhoods like Price Hill, Westwood and Mt. Airy where it's not easy to forget how lucky you are that you can afford to attend one of those schools. There may be some snobs, but to say we're all snobs because of a small group you've encountered makes you just as guilty as those snobs. You're looking down on all of us because you don't like a few of us. Stereotype much?

I'd say you need to hang around better people if that's been your overwhelming experience. I married a non-westsider, non- native Cincinnatian and NEVER in our 14 years of marriage has anyone ever asked him what high school did he go to before asking other things first. And when they learned he didn't attend Elder, or any other Catholic high school, they haven't written him off. It sounds like the people you've encountered are assholes. I'd stop going to or being in those places!

Outside of that, I'm beginning to agree with Gladden guy on this. There's definitely something deeper going on here. When people ask you what college you went to, do you call them.snobs too if they went to an Ivy or Duke or something? Jeez Louise.

[GoMuskies]

Huh, guess it was the one in the top pic. Funny what 19 years and the memory of a fly by can do one's perception.

While I was there, they put in real dugouts (paid for by the parents of a kid who went on to be ND's all-time HR leader and a colossal prick). That made the place seem a lot nicer than it did prior to that.

[X-band '01]

To the pissy out-of-towners: If this element of Cincinnati culture annoys you, or offends you, ignore it. You also don't have to eat Skyline, go to Catholic festivals, cheer for the Reds, or care about the Crosstown Shootout. Move on.

To the out-of-towners who went to Catholic high school: That's great. If I went to Brebeuf, or Marquette, or St Ignatius, I'd be proud. I find that usually gets you into the club in Cincinnati. In fact, most of us know that it's not your fault you're not from Cincinnati - but at least you tried to up your game by choosing the next best option, a Catholic high school in your city. Point is, it means we have lots in common...

To the locals not from catholic high schools: I personally don't judge you for where you went, I just think we all like to know. Yes, I think St X is superior, but I don't care if you went to West Hi, Sycamore, or Bethel Tate. You're a Cincinnatian. And for the record, I will always rank a person FROM Cincinnati higher than an outsider who went to the finest high school anywhere else.

Growing up in Columbus (and this is something I didn't realize until Emp brought this up when I met him in person), there aren't any Jesuit high schools. 3 out of the 5 schools (Hartley, Watterson and Ready) were named after former bishops in the Diocese of Columbus, 1 school (St. Charles) was originally founded as a seminary (where yours truly and DC Muskie attended), and another school (DeSales) was founded in 1960 as a co-ed school.

[blobfan]

1st of all, I've been called many things but snob over being proud of my high school isn't one of them. It literally made me laugh out loud. All the westside Catholic high schools sit in crappy neighborhoods like Price Hill, Westwood and Mt. Airy where it's not easy to forget how lucky you are that you can afford to attend one of those schools. There may be some snobs, but to say we're all snobs because of a small group you've encountered makes you just as guilty as those snobs. You're looking down on all of us because you don't like a few of us. Stereotype much?

I'd say you need to hang around better people if that's been your overwhelming experience. I married a non-westsider, non- native Cincinnatian and NEVER in our 14 years of marriage has anyone ever asked him what high school did he go to before asking other things first. And when they learned he didn't attend Elder, or any other Catholic high school, they haven't written him off. It sounds like the people you've encountered are assholes. I'd stop going to or being in those places!

Outside of that, I'm beginning to agree with Gladden guy on this. There's definitely something deeper going on here. When people ask you what college you went to, do you call them.snobs too if they went to an Ivy or Duke or something? Jeez Louise.

I'm sorry you feel you were attacked personally. I'm merely trying to explain my outsider perspective to those native Cincinnatians posting shock and confusion about how this question could be considered odd, petty or alienating. I didn't make the generalizations you claim. And the post I responded to spoke of your high school community not pride. Pride in your school is understandable. But I don't quite understand defining my community based on my high school experience.

[paulxu]

I married a non-westsider, non- native Cincinnatian and NEVER in our 14 years of marriage has anyone ever asked him what high school did he go to before asking other things first.

They're never going to ask him where he went to high school, till you stop wearing this shirt.

http://rlv.zcache.com/im_with_stupid_r_t_shirt-r8e75ee7a3b434c0a9881f4d27027c5f2_jg95x_324.jpg

[xu82]

Outside of that, I'm beginning to agree with Gladden guy on this. There's definitely something deeper going on here. When people ask you what college you went to, do you call them.snobs too if they went to an Ivy or Duke or something?


My wife's boss went to Duke, then Harvard. He met his wife at Harvard. We were at a function and someone asked her where she went to school. She replied "Boston". I knew the more specific answer, and liked her a lot more after hearing her response.

[gladdenguy]

I love the line......"high school is so in the past" when college was a few years later. Hahahahaha.

Bottom line. Who cares if people have pride in where they went to high school or college. Like Cheesehead said, where he grew up in Wisconsin, he was proud to go to a public school. We have a Walnut Hills graduate who should be proud of his/her education and school. Great!!! Who cares. But to ridicule people because they are proud of their high school or college is jealousy at its finest.

[XUGRAD80]

Snobs? Everyone knows that the ONLY snobs in Cincinnati all went to ST. X...lol

[LadyMuskie]

I love the line......"high school is so in the past" when college was a few years later. Hahahahaha.

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It's particularly hilarious considering that it's happening on a messageboard meant to declare one's fanaticism for a college team. It's definitely okay to go back to X for basketball games, homecoming, etc. and to wear X gear, talk about X, support X and so on. But step foot back on your high school campus or talk about your high school and you're a snob or something. Makes perfect sense. Really well-thought argument!

[xu82]

Imagine this were the new Cincy Futbol forum, and the side topic was who went to UC/Dayton/XU, etc. Territorial behavior would shame what we see on this HS topic. The bashing is already amusing!

[GIMMFD]

[/B]

My wife's boss went to Duke, then Harvard. He met his wife at Harvard. We were at a function and someone asked her where she went to school. She replied "Boston". I knew the more specific answer, and liked her a lot more after hearing her response.

That's what Harvard grads do (or so I've heard) they always say Boston unless someone keeps pestering them or says Boston as well, it's almost like a rule of thumb for that place.

[PM Thor]

It's not sarcasm I don't think. There's definitely some snobbery that goes along with the high school question in Cincy. I mean there's Indian Hill and everyone else anyway.

Nah, it's more like everyone else wanted to get into Walnut Hills.

[GIMMFD]

Nah, it's more like everyone else wanted to get into Walnut Hills.

I could be way way wrong here, but isn't Indian Hill like the super well off area? I vaguely remember going to dinner there with a friend (in her defense she did not realize that it was expensive, and I was Indian so she wanted to show me good Indian food) and it being $40 a plate, which I laughed at because good Indian food can be found very cheap...

[Juice]

I could be way way wrong here, but isn't Indian Hill like the super well off area? I vaguely remember going to dinner there with a friend (in her defense she did not realize that it was expensive, and I was Indian so she wanted to show me good Indian food) and it being $40 a plate, which I laughed at because good Indian food can be found very cheap...

It's the most affluent area in Hamilton County.

There are huge differences between Walnut Hills and Indian Hill. WH is the top school for Cincinnati Public Schools that kids have to qualify or apply to get into to (someone who went there can better explain) while IH is a good school because it's the public high school for the richest area in the county. Both good but for different reasons.

[scoscox]

I could be way way wrong here, but isn't Indian Hill like the super well off area? I vaguely remember going to dinner there with a friend (in her defense she did not realize that it was expensive, and I was Indian so she wanted to show me good Indian food) and it being $40 a plate, which I laughed at because good Indian food can be found very cheap...

Yes, but I wouldn't say the high school is anything to brag about.

[waggy]

Haha. If you think the question is asked with any regard to education rather than zip code.

[Juice]

Yes, but I wouldn't say the high school is anything to brag about.

#4 in Ohio by US News

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/ohio

And #3 by US News and World Report in 2014

http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2014/04/top-20-best-high-schools-in-ohio-countdown.html#g18

[Smails]

Proud graduate of Wyoming High School, which is like Indian Hill but with much more diversity, hotter chicks, but fewer jeep wranglers and less cocaine.

[PM Thor]

#4 in Ohio by US News

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/ohio

And #3 by US News and World Report in 2014

http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2014/04/top-20-best-high-schools-in-ohio-countdown.html#g18

Please note who is number 1 in both...Walnut. (heh)

Forbes and USNews ranks Walnut top 1 or 2 in the state almost annually, and WH ends up in the top 50-80 or so nationally every year. I take a lot of pride in the fact I went there.

Walnut is fairly different from other schools around though. You have to test in in the 7th grade, and kids come in from all over, even outside of Cincy or the county for that matter. Those that do have to pay tuition, but it's not much at all in comparison to the private schools. I'm pretty sure the 7th, 8th, and 9th graders still have to take Latin too.

If you really look at the greater Cincy area, there is a remarkable number of good schools.

[muskiefan82]

Yes. 3 years of Latin was a requirement if you entered in 7th or 8th and then two years minimum of an additional foreign language. If you entered in 9th or later, only the foreign language was required. Fun times.

[PM Thor]

Yeah that Latin requirement was tough. I came from a German school straight to Walnut. German and the Latin based languages could not be more different. Effie was the nickname that suited me that year fo sho.

[muskiefan82]

Fairview?

[scoscox]

#4 in Ohio by US News

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/ohio

And #3 by US News and World Report in 2014

http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2014/04/top-20-best-high-schools-in-ohio-countdown.html#g18

Looks like public school only listings. There are a lot of good schools in the area. Athletically, Indian Hill is not usually tossed around as the best. Academically, pretty good. Probably wealthiest student body no doubt.

[Juice]

Looks like public school only listings. There are a lot of good schools in the area. Athletically, Indian Hill is not usually tossed around as the best. Academically, pretty good. Probably wealthiest student body no doubt.

Yeah I specifically searched for public schools because that's what people were talking about. And yes, in sports they suck because they're a D2 or 3 school and they are limited athletically (aka have too many white people).

Walnut sucks in sports for the most part except when they bring in ringers for the bball program (half joking) and in tennis.

[LA Muskie]

This is the most Cincinnati thread ever.


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[xeus]

I could be way way wrong here, but isn't Indian Hill like the super well off area? I vaguely remember going to dinner there with a friend (in her defense she did not realize that it was expensive, and I was Indian so she wanted to show me good Indian food) and it being $40 a plate, which I laughed at because good Indian food can be found very cheap...

It's certainly the wealthiest neighborhood in town, but the Indian Hill School District extends well beyond the boundaries of the Village of Indian Hill. So while it is a very highly rated school district, it's not at all like every kid is filthy rich. Plenty of rich kids to be sure, but actually much more diverse (ethnically and economically) than most people realize.

But you wouldn't have gone to dinner in Indian Hill. The Village has no commercial property and no retail. The only non-residential are a few properties designated as agricultural, Camargo Country Club, some parks, a couple churches, and hundreds of acres of land held in trust that will never be developed.

[GIMMFD]

It's certainly the wealthiest neighborhood in town, but the Indian Hill School District extends well beyond the boundaries of the Village of Indian Hill. So while it is a very highly rated school district, it's not at all like every kid is filthy rich. Plenty of rich kids to be sure, but actually much more diverse (ethnically and economically) than most people realize.

But you wouldn't have gone to dinner in Indian Hill. The Village has no commercial property and no retail. The only non-residential are a few properties designated as agricultural, Camargo Country Club, some parks, a couple churches, and hundreds of acres of land held in trust that will never be developed.

Ahh, I know she was from Indian Hill and that we drove somewhere near there, my apologies! But okay, this makes a lot more sense now. It's cool learning about the city even when you're not in it anymore to be honest.

[powerofX]

This is the most Cincinnati thread ever.


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Ha! I lived in cincy for exactly the 4 years. I know about 2% of this entire thread!

[xu82]

Ahh, I know she was from Indian Hill and that we drove somewhere near there, my apologies! But okay, this makes a lot more sense now. It's cool learning about the city even when you're not in it anymore to be honest.

I've learned more about Cincinnati in recent long weekends to catch a game than I did in 4+ years going to school there. I knew how to get to Dana's blindfolded (or at least get home while blind), Zip's, Arthurs and on a good day up to McCarthy's. See a theme there?

[GIMMFD]

[/B]
I've learned more about Cincinnati in recent long weekends to catch a game than I did in 4+ years going to school there. I knew how to get to Dana's blindfolded (or at least get home while blind), Zip's, Arthurs and on a good day up to McCarthy's. See a theme there?

I am the same.. but I can get to Mount Adams and Over The Rhine too now... #RecentGrads

[xu82]

I am the same.. but I can get to Mount Adams and Over The Rhine too now... #RecentGrads

McCarthy's was in Mt Adams, and I could get there eventually, and usually even home. OTR was a scary place back then I was told. Never tried to find it, but often tried to avoid it. Went there last season on my annual trip and loved it! Very cool. #OldFarts

[birdman71]

McCarthy's was in Mt Adams, and I could get there eventually, and usually even home. OTR was a scary place back then I was told. Never tried to find it, but often tried to avoid it. Went there last season on my annual trip and loved it! Very cool. #OldFarts

McCarthy's is now the Mt. Adams Bar and Grill. Classed up a bit. Serves good food and has a back room.

As to Indian Hill School District. The primary taxpayer is Kenwood Towne Centre. Not in the village, but in the school district.

[Cheesehead]

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/wisconsin/districts/whitefish-bay-school-district/whitefish-bay-high-21979

My HS #1 in Wisconsin and 194th nationally. We are the mighty Blue Dukes!!

[xudash]

[/B]
I've learned more about Cincinnati in recent long weekends to catch a game than I did in 4+ years going to school there. I knew how to get to Dana's blindfolded (or at least get home while blind), Zip's, Arthurs and on a good day up to McCarthy's. See a theme there?

I bartended at McCarthy's after having bartended at Dana's. Loved working at both places.

McCarthy's back then was a favored Xavier hangout in Mt. Adams.

A couple other tidbits, the first hopefully being obvious and agreeable with everyone:

1. The drive between Mt. Adams and Xavier through Eden Park is simply beautiful.

2. The Blind Lemon, which is next door to what was McCarthy's, is one of the finest bars in the U.S. Actually, that can be construed as a statement of fact: it was literally rated a Top 50 U.S. bar at one time. Go there during the fall and sit outside and enjoy the fire while listening to live music.

I otherwise see a great theme there!

[xu82]

I bartended at McCarthy's after having bartended at Dana's. Loved working at both places.

McCarthy's back then was a favored Xavier hangout in Mt. Adams.

A couple other tidbits, the first hopefully being obvious and agreeable with everyone:

1. The drive between Mt. Adams and Xavier through Eden Park is simply beautiful.

2. The Blind Lemon, which is next door to what was McCarthy's, is one of the finest bars in the U.S. Actually, that can be construed as a statement of fact: it was literally rated a Top 50 U.S. bar at one time. Go there during the fall and sit outside and enjoy the fire while listening to live music.

I otherwise see a great theme there!

Thanks, that's on the list for my trip next season.

[letskeepitreal]

Man, I graduated in 1986 and have fond memories of the Blind Lemon on Mt. Adams on that back deck/porch listening to mainly live acoustic music. I can't believe that its still there 30 yrs after graduation. Plan to make it back there this year.

[paulxu]

And it was there 20 years before that.

[fellahmuskie]

I bartended at McCarthy's after having bartended at Dana's. Loved working at both places.

McCarthy's back then was a favored Xavier hangout in Mt. Adams.

A couple other tidbits, the first hopefully being obvious and agreeable with everyone:

1. The drive between Mt. Adams and Xavier through Eden Park is simply beautiful.

2. The Blind Lemon, which is next door to what was McCarthy's, is one of the finest bars in the U.S. Actually, that can be construed as a statement of fact: it was literally rated a Top 50 U.S. bar at one time. Go there during the fall and sit outside and enjoy the fire while listening to live music.

I otherwise see a great theme there!

You guys are probably gonna hate me for this, but I've lived in Mt Adams for the last year and a half and still haven't been to the Blind Lemon... In my defense, I don't really go to bars, but still. I keep reading about the history of the place and it sounds amazing. Would love to see a resurgence in Mt Adams, though it doesn't appear to be on the horizon any time soon.

[Juice]

You guys are probably gonna hate me for this, but I've lived in Mt Adams for the last year and a half and still haven't been to the Blind Lemon... In my defense, I don't really go to bars, but still. I keep reading about the history of the place and it sounds amazing. Would love to see a resurgence in Mt Adams, though it doesn't appear to be on the horizon any time soon.

OTR has killed it.

[xudash]

You guys are probably gonna hate me for this, but I've lived in Mt Adams for the last year and a half and still haven't been to the Blind Lemon... In my defense, I don't really go to bars, but still. I keep reading about the history of the place and it sounds amazing. Would love to see a resurgence in Mt Adams, though it doesn't appear to be on the horizon any time soon.

Not going to hate you at all. It's your choice fella. I just hope you take the time to soak it in at some point. Walter knows how to build a fire! Not bad for a UC guy.

I know OTR is on fire and all that, but for those times I've been back to town and have gone up to Mt. Adams, it didn't seem to be all that dead. It is a special area and provides Cincinnati a lot of character. I hope it at least holds serve from here on.

[sirthought]

Yeah, Blind Lemon was a cool thing in the late 60s, or so I'm told. Very nice vibe there. That and Crowleys were really the only places I enjoyed visiting regularly.

Personally, I'm glad the flame turned down quite a few notches on Mt. Adams. It was impossible to park up there if you wanted to socialize there regularly and most of the people were just douchebags, sadly.

I think it'll settle down nicely as a little residential neighborhood with some cool locally supported businesses. But my guess is there are other neighborhoods that will surge in popularity before Mt. Adams hits the level it was at in the early-mid 90s. (Not nearly as nice looking neighborhoods, but these things come around.)

[bobbiemcgee]

I worked @ Chapter XIII and drove the St.X school bus in the late 60's. My first real job I made less money.

Lived in Donny Trump's Swifton Village right after his Daddy bought it for him.

[Juice]

Yeah, Blind Lemon was a cool thing in the late 60s, or so I'm told. Very nice vibe there. That and Crowleys were really the only places I enjoyed visiting regularly.

Personally, I'm glad the flame turned down quite a few notches on Mt. Adams. It was impossible to park up there if you wanted to socialize there regularly and most of the people were just douchebags, sadly.

I think it'll settle down nicely as a little residential neighborhood with some cool locally supported businesses. But my guess is there are other neighborhoods that will surge in popularity before Mt. Adams hits the level it was at in the early-mid 90s. (Not nearly as nice looking neighborhoods, but these things come around.)

Every popular bar area in Cincinnati is full of douche bags. And I say this as someone who frequents them often.

[xu82]

Every popular bar area in Cincinnati is full of douche bags. And I say this as someone who frequents them often.

I hope losing your pants doesn't count against you.

[Lamont Sanford]

Yeah I specifically searched for public schools because that's what people were talking about. And yes, in sports they suck because they're a D2 or 3 school and they are limited athletically (aka have too many white people).

Walnut sucks in sports for the most part except when they bring in ringers for the bball program (half joking) and in tennis.

Walnut is average at best in tennis. Maybe #5-6 in the city now. They did however build six very nice new courts (with lights) on campus after the old ones had to be removed to build the football stadium. They haven't been relevant in tennis since Eric Thomas graduated.

[Juice]

Walnut is average at best in tennis. Maybe #5-6 in the city now. They did however build six very nice new courts (with lights) on campus after the old ones had to be removed to build the football stadium. They haven't been relevant in tennis since Eric Thomas graduated.

Being top 10 in the city is still relevant. And I say this as someone who played for St. X.

I agree that Walnut sucks at sports, I was just trying to point out something they aren't embarrassing in.

[fellahmuskie]

Yeah, Blind Lemon was a cool thing in the late 60s, or so I'm told. Very nice vibe there. That and Crowleys were really the only places I enjoyed visiting regularly.

Personally, I'm glad the flame turned down quite a few notches on Mt. Adams. It was impossible to park up there if you wanted to socialize there regularly and most of the people were just douchebags, sadly.

I think it'll settle down nicely as a little residential neighborhood with some cool locally supported businesses. But my guess is there are other neighborhoods that will surge in popularity before Mt. Adams hits the level it was at in the early-mid 90s. (Not nearly as nice looking neighborhoods, but these things come around.)

I get why things have changed in Mt Adams, and I selfishly like how quiet it is now, but I think it has a ton of potential that is going untapped. Between Eden Park and proximity to the river, Mt Adams could be a much bigger destination than it currently is. I think parking's a big issue, but there are creative ways to solve that. I'm thinking it will be 10-15 years before anything significant changes here, though. It's going to take a demographic shift and change in vision from the current neighborhood leaders.

[Lamont Sanford]

Being top 10 in the city is still relevant. And I say this as someone who played for St. X.

I agree that Walnut sucks at sports, I was just trying to point out something they aren't embarrassing in.

Juice -

When did you graduate from StX? We might know each other.