Jalen Gone

[casualfan]

Officially hiring an agent:

Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) tweeted at 2:35 PM on Sun, Apr 17, 2016:
Xavier junior Jalen Reynolds makes decision on hiring representation to enter the 2016 NBA draft: https://t.co/5hkf5IlGDP

[GIMMFD]

Time to step up O'Mara and Gaston. I have no worries, we were prepared for this, and was part of why we brought Gaston in last summer. I don't think this was a major surprise for anybody on the board. We'll be fine next season, got some good young talent to bang on the inside as well!

[BMoreX]

Not surprising

[XMuskieFTW]

:(

[TUclutch]

Jalen is a liar. Promised a final four and left without delivering.
















Just kidding. Good luck to Jalen. Im not convinced he won't be in Europe in 6 months, but even that isn't something to be embarrassed about. Wish him nothing but success in the future

[GreatWhiteNorth]

On the selfish side, I hope to see him back, but I don't blame him for wanting to go pro. I wish him the best and thank him for his contribution to the X program. Too bad he wasn't able to fulfill his promise of bringing this team to the FF.

[Xavier]

I think almost everyone saw it coming, time to go make some solid money in Europe.

[bobbiemcgee]

gotta lot of BB left.

[Juice]

Who were the people who thought Makinde leaving signaled that Jalen was coming back?

[xuwin]

Who were the people who thought Makinde leaving signaled that Jalen was coming back?

Are you recommending punishment for such a egregious crime?

[Juice]

Are you recommending punishment for such a egregious crime?

Something like this will suffice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4BfSy7wmBw

[Muncie]

Did he graduate ?

[X Factor]

Did he graduate ?

Yes.

[Masterofreality]

Not unexpected. Without a agent you still have hope, but him going now is understandable.
Opens this thing right up for 'Shid and we'll need Kaiser to really take big strides along with continued development from Irish O'.

Eddie Ekyor becomes a very interesting figure now.

[FIGHTING MUSKETEER]

Do we now have 2 scholarships open for transfers next year? If that is correct, I'm sure CM & Co. are working overtime on the transfer market. One PG and one PF/C.

[XUFan09]

Do we now have 2 scholarships open for transfers next year? If that is correct, I'm sure CM & Co. are working overtime on the transfer market. One PG and one PF/C.
Three open scholarships.

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[bleedXblue]

He has no chance at the NBA. None.

Time to turn the page

[XUFan09]

He has no chance at the NBA. None.

Time to turn the page
Why do people keep saying this? Even if it's not the NBA, obviously his intent is to make money now somewhere.

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[94GRAD]

Did he graduate ?


Yes.

No

[Muncie]

Well we now have conflicting responses. I hope he did for his sake .

[Xavier]

Why do people keep saying this? Even if it's not the NBA, obviously his intent is to make money now somewhere.

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I think even Jalen would say his chances are slim to none. Exactly like you said, his intent is to go make money now and it is likely going to be in Europe.

[casualfan]

No

If not that's a shame as he spent a full 4 years in school.

[XMuskieFTW]

He hasn't graduated because graduation isn't until May. Highly doubt he'll bail on finishing out the last 2 weeks of school. You know the school will accommodate him and not let a senior basketball player not graduate.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Jalen can play in China or Japan, if not Europe.

[Emp]

Disappointed Jalen didn't grow more in four years at X. And I do think he grew, just not to his full potential.

He's a 24 year old man, with a mother who needs his help. He has that size and talent. Time has come today.

I hope he nails it. He's a good guy under a lot of scrutiny and pressure.

[Cheesehead]

He hasn't graduated because graduation isn't until May. Highly doubt he'll bail on finishing out the last 2 weeks of school. You know the school will accommodate him and not let a senior basketball player not graduate.

he is still attending class, so I think he should get his degree

[xeus]

He has no chance at the NBA. None.

He's not leaving because he thinks he'll be playing in the NBA. He is leaving because he is graduating, and it's time to go get a job.

I'm proud of him for making (what I think) is the right decision.

[Masterofreality]

He's not leaving because he thinks he'll be playing in the NBA. He is leaving because he is graduating, and it's time to go get a job.

I'm proud of him for making (what I think) is the right decision.

Agree 100%. Jalen got screwed by the NCAA in his freshman year. That put him back a year from what he should have been.

There comes a time when you gotta get on with life, although that idea seems to have escaped a few posters on this board. :laugh:

[XUFan09]

But if he stays, he can polish his game...

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[XMuskieFTW]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400504585

This may have been my favorite Jalen game. Down the stretch, on the bubble, Jalen took over.

[GuyFawkes38]

Would have loved it if he would have came back. But can completely understand this move from his perspective. Thanks for everything and best of luck!

[RaymondRobinson]

Just have it more and gone fishin is tremendous. Plus it's less ESPN (outside of Jalen)

[xukeith]

we shall see what the cupboard produces next year in frontcourt.
I suspect nothing matching Farr and Reynolds.
Maybe X plays 5 guards.

[kyxu]

But if he stays, he can polish his game...

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and werk his way in to the lottery if he stais another year!!! And wut abot his degree?!?!?! Their are more important things then $$$$ but i gess Jalen only cares about 1 thing!!

#sprots

[AviatorX]

we shall see what the cupboard produces next year in frontcourt.
I suspect nothing matching Farr and Reynolds.
Maybe X plays 5 guards.

Really? I think the O'Mara/Gaston slot will easily replace Jalen's production. Not a knock on Jalen at all. Obviously, Xavier won't be as dominant (or focused) up front this season but an improved Gates along with more experienced Bluiett/Macura on the wing should more than make up for that IMO.

[Cheesehead]

and Eddie

[xu82]

we shall see what the cupboard produces next year in frontcourt.
I suspect nothing matching Farr and Reynolds.
Maybe X plays 5 guards.

Tough to replace those guys, but I think Gates will be better (overall) than either of those guys before he's done. No telling what to expect from the new guys, but the way the minutes worked, replacing Farr and Jalen is a lot like replacing one person/position. Jalen was often resting with 2 fouls by the 16 minute mark. I like O'Mara in the post. Gaston isn't a freshman and has time with the team. I'll trust Mack to make it work and add where needed.

[mistabeecee41]

What exactly do you people who disagree with this think Jalen could possibly do to become a first round pick? Our team will be loaded offensively. He'd be lucky to average 12 a game.

Plus, there's only a certain amount of time you can give somebody before you realize they'll probably never develop a certain skillset. At this point, Jalen will never be a go-to guy in the post. It's just not gonna happen. He's an athlete who can run and jump very well.

People said 'Semaj needs to stay, if he works on his point guard skills and jump shot, he's a sure fire first rounder!" 2 years removed, he is shooting 19% from 3 and has an A/T ratio of 3.6/2.9. If he would have stayed two more years, he would be a 23 year old senior with about $150,000 less dollars in his bank account.

[AviatorX]

and Eddie

Exactly. Just going off guys that were on the team this year (obviously Eddie is a weird situation), O'Mara/Gaston IMO can definitely fill Reynolds' production (although likely in a very different fashion). As for Farr, he is graduating, which when you recruit at the level Xavier does tends to happen to your best/most productive guys each season (XU is in an amazing spot with how much they have returning when you think of it this way), and Mack has brought in several front court recruits who are universally higher rated than Farr was out of HS. Not much else you can ask.

[muethibp]

If Jalen asked me what to do - clearly he didn't and wouldn't - I would tell him to turn pro in a heartbeat. He has a special opportunity to make life-changing money for him and his family but that window is only open for a relatively few short years of his life. Definitely need to go grab it.

[xu82]

What exactly do you people who disagree with this think Jalen could possibly do to become a first round pick? Our team will be loaded offensively. He'd be lucky to average 12 a game.

While some don't get it, I believe some other posts include no small dose of sarcasm.

[nuts4xu]

He's not leaving because he thinks he'll be playing in the NBA. He is leaving because he is graduating, and it's time to go get a job.

I'm proud of him for making (what I think) is the right decision.

I enjoyed watching Jalen play these last 3 years, and will root for him wherever he plays next season. We will miss the big Cold Play loving - Tech Foul Machine! He made the right decision for him, takes his degree and goes into the world a better man ready to do great things.

[XMuskieFTW]

Huge fan of Jalen, but replacing him probably won't be that difficult. Our two guys fighting to start at the 5 have a combined 6 years experience, so I'm not worried at all about them filling in.

[LA Muskie]

What exactly do you people who disagree with this think Jalen could possibly do to become a first round pick? Our team will be loaded offensively. He'd be lucky to average 12 a game.

Plus, there's only a certain amount of time you can give somebody before you realize they'll probably never develop a certain skillset. At this point, Jalen will never be a go-to guy in the post. It's just not gonna happen. He's an athlete who can run and jump very well.

People said 'Semaj needs to stay, if he works on his point guard skills and jump shot, he's a sure fire first rounder!" 2 years removed, he is shooting 19% from 3 and has an A/T ratio of 3.6/2.9. If he would have stayed two more years, he would be a 23 year old senior with about $150,000 less dollars in his bank account.

I think you're right that Jalen's time had come. But I think Semaj is probably the worst possible example for why that's the case.

[GoMuskies]

Well, Jalen never turned into "Thomas Robinson with a jumpshot", but he had a nice career at Xavier. Congrats to him on getting his degree (I assume he will) and moving on to start being a productive (and relatively affluent) member of society.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Chris Mack ‏@CoachChrisMack 45s45 seconds ago
Jalen Reynolds isnt leaving early. He graduates in May. He may be giving up 1 season of eligibility but he'll forever be a Xavier graduate!

[muskiefan82]

Chris Mack ‏@CoachChrisMack 45s45 seconds ago
Jalen Reynolds isnt leaving early. He graduates in May. He may be giving up 1 season of eligibility but he'll forever be a Xavier graduate!

TRUTH. Congratulations to Jalen Reynolds. Once you learn how to cut hair with European style after playing over there (let's be real about the NBA), you will be a force unstoppable with scissors or the ball.

[XUFan09]

I think Keith's comment about replacing frontcourt production is exaggerated but worth evaluating. Gaston will probably rebound at about Jalen's level. That's high praise, considering that Jalen was statistically one of the best rebounders of the last seven years in the Big East (the time period for which there is data on total rebounding rate). No one will rebound at Farr's level, though, as he was easily the best in the Big East and actually comes in at 20th in the nation in the last seven years.

Offensively, O'Mara was the best scorer in the post this past season, so I'm not worried there.

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[SemajParlor]

Why do people keep saying this? Even if it's not the NBA, obviously his intent is to make money now somewhere.

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How dare he pursue a job that will make more money than the alternative entry level job!

[Wheelhouse]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400504585

This may have been my favorite Jalen game. Down the stretch, on the bubble, Jalen took over.

I was at this game. He was a beast!

[SemajParlor]

I was at this game. He was a beast!

I was also in attendance at the Garden. The best game of his career in my opinion.

[Masterofreality]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400504585

This may have been my favorite Jalen game. Down the stretch, on the bubble, Jalen took over.


I was at this game. He was a beast!

I was there too for Jalen's NY coming out party. Superb performance.

[markchal]

Chris Mack ‏@CoachChrisMack 45s45 seconds ago
Jalen Reynolds isnt leaving early. He graduates in May. He may be giving up 1 season of eligibility but he'll forever be a Xavier graduate!

This is disappointing to me, because I think the staff has seen it coming for a long time and I think that's why they grabbed Gaston. I really think if they even thought their was a chance, then he should've been honored at senior night. College football has guys that get honored when they are a senior and again if they decide to use a 5th year. He's had a good career and wish he could've been recognized.

[NY44]

I think you're right that Jalen's time had come. But I think Semaj is probably the worst possible example for why that's the case.

I would never criticize a player for leaving to make money, whatever that amount of money is. However, there are times where it's not ideal. Where a player would be better off a star on his college team. There is better playing time, coaching, and arguably in some cases, better exposure in the NCAA vs the D-League. Life is rarely ideal though. Good for Jalen.

[LA Muskie]

This is disappointing to me, because I think the staff has seen it coming for a long time and I think that's why they grabbed Gaston. I really think if they even thought their was a chance, then he should've been honored at senior night. College football has guys that get honored when they are a senior and again if they decide to use a 5th year. He's had a good career and wish he could've been recognized.
I think this is a fair criticism. Like Mack said, he was a SENIOR this year. He should have been honored as such.

[XMuskieFTW]

I think this is a fair criticism. Like Mack said, he was a SENIOR this year. He should have been honored as such.

Should Myles have been knowing 100% he comes back next year?

[Xavier]

I would never criticize a player for leaving to make money, whatever that amount of money is. However, there are times where it's not ideal. Where a player would be better off a star on his college team. There is better playing time, coaching, and arguably in some cases, better exposure in the NCAA vs the D-League. Life is rarely ideal though. Good for Jalen.

I don't think Jalen was getting better by staying at Xavier. I didn't see much of an improvement from last year to this year in both his ability and his playing time. I admit, I could be pretty off base here- XU09 may come in with some wild stats that prove that, but I felt his playing time and ability stayed about the same.

*Not saying that's a bad thing- I would love to have that back next year.

[Xpectations]

This is disappointing to me, because I think the staff has seen it coming for a long time and I think that's why they grabbed Gaston. I really think if they even thought their was a chance, then he should've been honored at senior night. College football has guys that get honored when they are a senior and again if they decide to use a 5th year. He's had a good career and wish he could've been recognized.

Completely disagree. Not because I wouldn't want him recognized, but because Jalen left the door open (albeit slight) for a possible return. That was his decision, not the staff's.

[Xavier]

I think it would be fine to recognize al seniors, even if they are likely to return (Myles).

[muethibp]

In my view we should be recognizing those on pace to be graduates at the last home game, no matter their year. Indeed, I'd not even call it senior night.

If you're a junior eligibility graduate, get on out there. If you're a senior in eligibility but for some reason, heaven forbid, are not on pace to graduate, then this day isn't for you.

Anyone can exhaust their eligibility. Graduating is worth honoring.

[NY44]

I don't think Jalen was getting better by staying at Xavier. I didn't see much of an improvement from last year to this year in both his ability and his playing time. I admit, I could be pretty off base here- XU09 may come in with some wild stats that prove that, but I felt his playing time and ability stayed about the same.

*Not saying that's a bad thing- I would love to have that back next year.

I'm with you. Semaj is a better example of the situation, but still, improvement is never a guarantee.

[Caveat]

I can't find any fault with him wanting to go make money. Most pros are already singing their second contract at his age, and there's a limited number of years he'll have to play as is.

[xu82]

I'm with you. Semaj is a better example of the situation, but still, improvement is never a guarantee.

Exactly. The reason we still talk about guys like Jason Love, and go on and on about Farr is you hope for some modest improvement, but giant leaps forward are rare. Jalen improved his "mental aspect" it appeared, and maybe had some modest improvement in other areas. But I wouldn't be expecting a vastly different player next year. A helpful player to have, but much like what we've seen.

[xu82]

I can't find any fault with him wanting to go make money. Most pros are already singing their second contract at his age, and there's a limited number of years he'll have to play as is.

No fault at all! Go make some money! You only get so many years to do it.....

[XUFan09]

I don't think Jalen was getting better by staying at Xavier. I didn't see much of an improvement from last year to this year in both his ability and his playing time. I admit, I could be pretty off base here- XU09 may come in with some wild stats that prove that, but I felt his playing time and ability stayed about the same.

*Not saying that's a bad thing- I would love to have that back next year.
Off the top of my head, his rebounding rates may have improved, but that could also be a function of not playing as many minutes next to Farr/Stainbrook. Bluiett and Gates aren't as good at rebounding as those two. His offensive rating dipped, probably due to two reasons: His usage rate went up and he wasn't playing next to Stainbrook. I think Stain was a fantastic complement to Jalen, so Jalen was hurting a little from his absence.

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[markchal]

Completely disagree. Not because I wouldn't want him recognized, but because Jalen left the door open (albeit slight) for a possible return. That was his decision, not the staff's.

There's no rule that says he couldn't come back for another year if he'd been honored. Notre Dame FB has a handful of 5th year guys every season who walk on senior day again, even after walking when thy were seniors before.

It's a small thing, but I do think it would've been nice to honor him. He didn't deliver a final four, but he had some great moments and was a great guy off the floor and repped us well overall. He also paid his own way that first year, when many guys would've bailed.

[LA Muskie]

Should Myles have been knowing 100% he comes back next year?

Yes. If it's SENIOR Day then honor all SENIORS.

[xeus]

Yes. If it's SENIOR Day then honor all SENIORS.

There is a huge graduation ceremony to celebrate all academic seniors who are graduating, including athletes.

Senior Day is to recognize those who have exhausted their athletic eligibility, regardless of whether they have been at Xavier 2 years or 5 years.

[LA Muskie]

There is a huge graduation ceremony to celebrate all academic seniors who are graduating, including athletes.

Senior Day is to recognize those who have exhausted their athletic eligibility, regardless of whether they have been at Xavier 2 years or 5 years.
I get that. But if that's the case, then we probably shouldn't call it "Senior Day".

[XfansinKy]

I wish him the kind of salary Doellman gets overseas. Promised a Final 4 only to realize their are big guys a lot better than him. Oh well, I would say we all said crazy things as youngsters, I do now occasionally.

[94GRAD]

I get that. But if that's the case, then we probably shouldn't call it "Senior Day".

It would be tough to call it "Exhausted Athletic Eligibility Day"

[xu82]

It would be tough to call it "Exhausted Athletic Eligibility Day"

Kinda catchy.....

[Cheesehead]

It would be tough to call it "Exhausted Athletic Eligibility Day"

Just imagine the drink specials you could attach to that?

[XUGRAD80]

I think that many of us here can drink to Exhausted Athletic ABILITY Day.

[GIMMFD]

I think that many of us here can drink to Exhausted Athletic ABILITY Day.

Hell I'm only 22 and I can still drink to that.. :lmao:

[xu82]

Hell I'm only 22 and I can still drink to that.. :lmao:

From a legal age standpoint, just barely. From an ability standpoint, it sounds like you're 22 years in.

[GIMMFD]

From a legal age standpoint, just barely. From an ability standpoint, it sounds like you're 22 years in.

There's no way you weren't drinking in Brockman your Freshman year ;)

[xu82]

There's no way you weren't drinking in Brockman your Freshman year ;)

I said "legal". And the legal age was like 12 in my day. (I'm adjusting kinda like dog years now.)

[muskieindent]

Per CM tweet Jalen will graduate next month.Glad to hear that because there were all sorts of rumors that he wasn't.

[paulxu]

S Rose probably threatened him with bodily harm.

[94GRAD]

No

My initial sources(multiple) were wrong. He will graduate.

[94GRAD]

S Rose probably threatened him with bodily harm.

Chris Barbour is the new Sister Rose. He's the one that helps Jalen, et al with their schooling.

[xu82]

Chris Barbour is the new Sister Rose. He's the one that helps Jalen, et al with their schooling.

Chris and anyone who follows him should be known as Sister Rose. I've been called worse.

[Cheesehead]

My initial sources(multiple) were wrong. He will graduate.

He was only taking one class. It should not be that hard to wrap up the degree

[XfansinKy]

I would like to see him not necessarily go after much money, and instead play in the Dleague where some great player development takes place as well as being right under the watchful eye of an NBA owner or GM. Although Dleague players don't make enough to to save money, they can afford an apartment, food and clothes. If the right big man coach gets a hold of Jalen, who knows, he could get a few 10-20 day call ups in his first couple years and prove he at least should be on the bench to bang with the starters in practice and keep them sharp. He's just got too much God given talents to not have a shot. 6'10 250lbs, chiseled frame, 44" vertical, runs the court with ease, tough as nails and doesn't back down. He has to have at least a shot at a couple 10 day call ups.

[Muskie]

I do not follow the NBA terribly close. Has the D League become a viable option to the NBA? I realize guys get called up here and there for 10-12 games, but does anybody stick?


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[Juice]

I do not follow the NBA terribly close. Has the D League become a viable option to the NBA? I realize guys get called up here and there for 10-12 games, but does anybody stick?


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Sean Kilpatrick got a 2 year deal.

It does work depending on the team. Some use it to develop, others invest nothing in it.

[xukeith]

[Safe pick: Go overseas. Big gamble: Play in D League.

[GIMMFD]

I would like to see him not necessarily go after much money, and instead play in the Dleague where some great player development takes place as well as being right under the watchful eye of an NBA owner or GM. Although Dleague players don't make enough to to save money, they can afford an apartment, food and clothes. If the right big man coach gets a hold of Jalen, who knows, he could get a few 10-20 day call ups in his first couple years and prove he at least should be on the bench to bang with the starters in practice and keep them sharp. He's just got too much God given talents to not have a shot. 6'10 250lbs, chiseled frame, 44" vertical, runs the court with ease, tough as nails and doesn't back down. He has to have at least a shot at a couple 10 day call ups.

Personally, this is the route I would choose at first, and if in 2 years or so, I see that nothing is coming from it, then I would go overseas and try to make a living that way for the big bucks. At some point you have to secure yourself completely financially, and though he does have the talent, and raw ability, it just depends on the situation and what he can do under his given circumstances. It's different for guys like Jalen and Semaj who have the talent to get to the NBA, rather than someone like Dee who went straight to Europe. But even then, you have to give yourself a set time period, no reason to beat a dead horse if it doesn't work out, just go overseas and get your 6 figures.

[LA Muskie]

I really don't see Jalen in the NBA. And I think wasting 2 years of Euro pay waiting for that to prove true would be a major financial sacrifice.


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[GIMMFD]

I really don't see Jalen in the NBA. And I think wasting 2 years of Euro pay waiting for that to prove true would be a major financial sacrifice.


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I definitely respect that, but who knows what he's thinking, maybe he's hell bent on proving that he's NBA worthy and is willing to sacrifice a couple years of good money if that's the case. I personally agree with you, I think he's reached his ceiling because there wasn't much development from last year to this year, however, I would not blame him for trying, because from a dreaming standpoint, I'm sure his dream was the NBA, not Europe you know?

[JTG]

I do not follow the NBA terribly close. Has the D League become a viable option to the NBA? I realize guys get called up here and there for 10-12 games, but does anybody stick?


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The Pacers had a couple D league guys on the roster for short periods. Frankly, they could use a guy with his temperament. Too many of their players are soft.

[Muskie]

Sean Kilpatrick got a 2 year deal.

It does work depending on the team. Some use it to develop, others invest nothing in it.

Who?
(Frankly I can't believe someone didn't jump on this post hours ago. You guys are out of practice).


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[Masterofreality]

who?
(frankly i can't believe someone didn't jump on this post hours ago. You guys are out of practice).


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#offseason

[LA Muskie]

I definitely respect that, but who knows what he's thinking, maybe he's hell bent on proving that he's NBA worthy and is willing to sacrifice a couple years of good money if that's the case. I personally agree with you, I think he's reached his ceiling because there wasn't much development from last year to this year, however, I would not blame him for trying, because from a dreaming standpoint, I'm sure his dream was the NBA, not Europe you know?

I agree with that as well. I just hope his advisors give him a realistic appraisal of his prospects.

[Milhouse]

Sean Kilpatrick got a 2 year deal.

It does work depending on the team. Some use it to develop, others invest nothing in it.

As someone that follows the NBA- I'll be shocked if Kilpatrick is on a team all of next season- he's worked hard and good for him, but I don't know that he is a major part of the Nets plan going forward, his contract sounds more like trade fodder than anything else- but I believe it's guaranteed money so regardless he should be fine.

[Cheesehead]

As someone that follows the NBA- I'll be shocked if Kilpatrick is on a team all of next season- he's worked hard and good for him, but I don't know that he is a major part of the Nets plan going forward, his contract sounds more like trade fodder than anything else- but I believe it's guaranteed money so regardless he should be fine.


Normally I would agree just because it's A UC player but when I see guys like Steve Blake still in the league, I think why not Sean Kilpatrick?

[Milhouse]

Normally I would agree just because it's A UC player but when I see guys like Steve Blake still in the league, I think why not Sean Kilpatrick?

Lot of teams like having those veteran guys on teams like the pistons to help mold the young guys totally different situation as Pistons need more of a locker room leader than a dude who'll get 20 pts on 15 shots. I don't think kilpatrick is bad either, just think he's not part of Brooklyn's plans going forward at this point.

[casualfan]

Lot of teams like having those veteran guys on teams like the pistons to help mold the young guys totally different situation as Pistons need more of a locker room leader than a dude who'll get 20 pts on 15 shots. I don't think kilpatrick is bad either, just think he's not part of Brooklyn's plans going forward at this point.

Why would they sign a guy to a three year guaranteed deal that isn't part of their plans?

[nuts4xu]

Why would they sign a guy to a three year guaranteed deal that isn't part of their plans?

A team can only sign a player to 2 ten day contracts in a season, after which, they must either waive them or sign them for the rest of the season. Teams are able to sign free agents to 10 contracts after January 5th of a season.

The money is guaranteed, and my guess is it is a reasonable amount to pay to terminate a contract. NBA rosters are managed differently than many sports, especially for a lousy team playing out a season.

[casualfan]

A team can only sign a player to 2 ten day contracts in a season, after which, they must either waive them or sign them for the rest of the season. Teams are able to sign free agents to 10 contracts after January 5th of a season.

The money is guaranteed, and my guess is it is a reasonable amount to pay to terminate a contract. NBA rosters are managed differently than many sports, especially for a lousy team playing out a season.

I understand that they had to make a decision after his second 10 day. My point is, if he's not part of their future plans, and they sucked on toast and were eliminated from playoff contention prior to the expiration of his second 10 day, it wouldn't make any sense to give him a three year guaranteed deal.

If it was about getting a body to finish out the season they'd have been better off dropping him and signing any number of the other available d-league guards to a couple 10 days.

Or just give him a deal for the rest of this season. Not this season, next, and the one after.

[smileyy]

There's a lot of guys who are in the NBA that you wouldn't expect. E.g., both Brian Roberts and Chris Johnson from UD were on NBA rosters this season and look on track to have at least journeyman careers in the NBA. There's plenty of worse ways to live.

[justinhub2003]

Right.

Like Kilpatrick or not, fact is he did dominate the D-League and then show that his offenisve game translates to the NBA. I mean, I don't care who you play for, scoring 14ppg in your first reall season in the league isn't easy and also not starting a single game.

I mean Guys like James Young from Kentucky isn't doing anything in the NBA and seems like a D-league player for the rest of his career.

As for Jalen, If he wants to go to the League he is going to have to work really hard for it. Just like SK did. Its hard taking shitty bus rides and shitty hotels and getting paid 27k a year in the D-League and trying to get noticed by an NBA team. It can be done but its hard and not very likely. He should just go overseas and make real money

[Xavier]

As someone that follows the NBA- I'll be shocked if Kilpatrick is on a team all of next season- he's worked hard and good for him, but I don't know that he is a major part of the Nets plan going forward, his contract sounds more like trade fodder than anything else- but I believe it's guaranteed money so regardless he should be fine.

I think he will be in the NBA all next year. I also think on the right team he can be a solid small contributor (9th man).

[paulxu]

Pardon the interruption.

Did Jalen hire an agent, in which case he cannot return?

Sorry if this has been addressed and I missed it.

[BMoreX]

Pardon the interruption.

Did Jalen hire an agent, in which case he cannot return?

Sorry if this has been addressed and I missed it.

Yes

[paulxu]

Thanks.

[Milhouse]

Right.

Like Kilpatrick or not, fact is he did dominate the D-League and then show that his offenisve game translates to the NBA. I mean, I don't care who you play for, scoring 14ppg in your first reall season in the league isn't easy and also not starting a single game.

I mean Guys like James Young from Kentucky isn't doing anything in the NBA and seems like a D-league player for the rest of his career.

As for Jalen, If he wants to go to the League he is going to have to work really hard for it. Just like SK did. Its hard taking shitty bus rides and shitty hotels and getting paid 27k a year in the D-League and trying to get noticed by an NBA team. It can be done but its hard and not very likely. He should just go overseas and make real money

It's a double edge sword though. I mean he's getting the opportunity- but just like in college he's not incredible efficient. He averaged 14 ppg on 11 shots per game. I'd reckon most SGs in the NBA can do that on similar shot opportunities. Most NBA players can do that period if given the opportunity, it's just there are only 5-6 guys that get to shoot 10+ shots in a game at the end of the day. People forget how nearly everyone riding the bench in the NBA was a college star and could put up points....because they were given the shots in college.

[mistabeecee41]

For anyone who doesn't closely follow the draft : with 64/70 names confirmed, neither Jalen or Tre have been invited to the NBA's draft combine. They'll still get plenty of individual workouts, but this would have been beneficial for both. Especially Jalen, who seems like he was born for these kinds of workouts.

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/727120355899412480

[justinhub2003]

It's a double edge sword though. I mean he's getting the opportunity- but just like in college he's not incredible efficient. He averaged 14 ppg on 11 shots per game. I'd reckon most SGs in the NBA can do that on similar shot opportunities. Most NBA players can do that period if given the opportunity, it's just there are only 5-6 guys that get to shoot 10+ shots in a game at the end of the day. People forget how nearly everyone riding the bench in the NBA was a college star and could put up points....because they were given the shots in college.

Sure could he be more efficient? yes but he is more efficient than any other guard on the Nets team at the moment. Also, He has yet to start a single game, its not always easy coming cold off the bench and shooting 46% and being a volume shooter. He actually kinda lost his 3 point touch late in the season which lowered his numbers. If SK can shoot 47% from the field and 40% from 3 off the bench, he could be an NBA player for a long time.

I mean if you compared his numbers to a guy like Andrew Wiggins in his rookie season, SK looks pretty good. Shooting higher percentages from both 3 and from the field. And only 5 ppg less than him and SK averaged about 17 mpg less.


I dunno what will happen to him long term but for a guy who was over looked and kept working, he certainly has been a fun underdog story to follow. IF Jalen reynolds ever touches the NBA, it would be the same kind of story. But I doubt he even goes to the D-league to even try it... people though SK was crazy to do it

[Milhouse]

Sure could he be more efficient? yes but he is more efficient than any other guard on the Nets team at the moment. Also, He has yet to start a single game, its not always easy coming cold off the bench and shooting 46% and being a volume shooter. He actually kinda lost his 3 point touch late in the season which lowered his numbers. If SK can shoot 47% from the field and 40% from 3 off the bench, he could be an NBA player for a long time.

I mean if you compared his numbers to a guy like Andrew Wiggins in his rookie season, SK looks pretty good. Shooting higher percentages from both 3 and from the field. And only 5 ppg less than him and SK averaged about 17 mpg less.


I dunno what will happen to him long term but for a guy who was over looked and kept working, he certainly has been a fun underdog story to follow. IF Jalen reynolds ever touches the NBA, it would be the same kind of story. But I doubt he even goes to the D-league to even try it... people though SK was crazy to do it

It'll be interesting to see what happens. The Nets are an aboslute dumpster fire and they had both their GM and coach fired mid season. I dont even know if theyve officially hired those positions yet and their owner is kind of a loon.

Jalen is gonna go make bank overseas. I fully expect we'll see a fun summer league out him before he goes though.

Would've loved for the dude to stick around and go 4/4 against UC but I guess Myles will have to carry that mantle alone.