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Cheesehead
04-14-2016, 01:11 PM
CINCINNATI - Xavier University Director of Athletics Greg Christopher announced today that the contract of Sedler Family Men's Head Basketball Coach Chris Mack has been extended by a year through the 2021-22 season. Mack, Xavier's first-ever National Coach of the Year, was selected as the 2015-16 USBWA Henry Iba National Coach of the Year as well as the CBS Sports and Basketball Times magazine National Coach of the Year. In addition, Mack earned BIG EAST Conference Coach of the Year by CBS Sports and Bleacher Report.

Xavier, 28-6 overall this past season, finished 14-4 and in second place behind eventual National Champion Villanova in the BIG EAST Conference. Xavier's 28 wins tied for the second-most wins in school history and the 14 BIG EAST wins are a school record as is the final Associated Press Poll ranking of No. 9.

Mack, who recently completed his seventh season at the helm, has led Xavier to six NCAA Tournaments, including three Sweet 16 appearances. Mack, who led Xavier to a school-record final Associated Press ranking of No. 9 this past season, led Xavier to its highest-ever in-season national rankings at No. 5 in the Associated Press Poll and No. 4 in the USA Today Coaches Poll.

Mack, 46, has recorded a 162-77 (.678) mark over seven years and stands second on Xavier's all-time wins list. He has led Xavier to the NCAA Tournament in six of his seven seasons at the helm, including the NCAA Tournament Sweet 16 in 2010, 2012 and 2015. He is the only Xavier head coach that has led XU to three Sweet 16s and he has more NCAA Tournament wins (7) than any XU head coach.

At his current pace of 23.1 wins per season, Mack will shatter his alma mater's all-time wins record long before the end of this new agreement.

Mack, a 1992 Xavier graduate and former two-time XU team captain, began his collegiate coaching career as the Xavier Director of Basketball operations for two seasons, 1999-2001, under the late Skip Prosser. Mack spent five seasons, 2004-09, as the top assistant under Sean Miller, the man he eventually replaced to become head coach in 2009.

XMuskieFTW
04-14-2016, 01:15 PM
CINCINNATI - Xavier University Director of Athletics Greg Christopher announced today that the contract of Sedler Family Men's Head Basketball Coach Chris Mack has been extended by a year through the 2021-22 season. Mack, Xavier's first-ever National Coach of the Year, was selected as the 2015-16 USBWA Henry Iba National Coach of the Year as well as the CBS Sports and Basketball Times magazine National Coach of the Year. In addition, Mack earned BIG EAST Conference Coach of the Year by CBS Sports and Bleacher Report.

Xavier, 28-6 overall this past season, finished 14-4 and in second place behind eventual National Champion Villanova in the BIG EAST Conference. Xavier's 28 wins tied for the second-most wins in school history and the 14 BIG EAST wins are a school record as is the final Associated Press Poll ranking of No. 9.

Mack, who recently completed his seventh season at the helm, has led Xavier to six NCAA Tournaments, including three Sweet 16 appearances. Mack, who led Xavier to a school-record final Associated Press ranking of No. 9 this past season, led Xavier to its highest-ever in-season national rankings at No. 5 in the Associated Press Poll and No. 4 in the USA Today Coaches Poll.

Mack, 46, has recorded a 162-77 (.678) mark over seven years and stands second on Xavier's all-time wins list. He has led Xavier to the NCAA Tournament in six of his seven seasons at the helm, including the NCAA Tournament Sweet 16 in 2010, 2012 and 2015. He is the only Xavier head coach that has led XU to three Sweet 16s and he has more NCAA Tournament wins (7) than any XU head coach.

At his current pace of 23.1 wins per season, Mack will shatter his alma mater's all-time wins record long before the end of this new agreement.

Mack, a 1992 Xavier graduate and former two-time XU team captain, began his collegiate coaching career as the Xavier Director of Basketball operations for two seasons, 1999-2001, under the late Skip Prosser. Mack spent five seasons, 2004-09, as the top assistant under Sean Miller, the man he eventually replaced to become head coach in 2009.

Would be interesting to see what the numbers are on this. Hopefully he got a nice pay raise.

nuts4xu
04-14-2016, 01:16 PM
Would be interesting to see what the numbers are on this. Hopefully he got a nice pay raise.

My first question was "did he get a raise"?

Cheesehead
04-14-2016, 01:24 PM
http://www.goxavier.com/news/2016/4/14/mens-basketball-xavier-announces-contract-extension-for-head-coach-chris-mack.aspx

xeus
04-14-2016, 01:25 PM
I wonder if, "Sedler Family Men's Head Basketball Coach Chris Mack speaking" is how he answers the phone.

Milhouse
04-14-2016, 01:28 PM
This is nothing new. He has a clause in his contract that its automatically extended 1 year for every year he makes the NCAA tournament. Has been that way since he restructed it in 13-14.

xudash
04-14-2016, 01:30 PM
My first question was "did he get a raise"?

nuts, I would be stunned if he didn't get one. Notwithstanding the less than stellar play against Wisconsin and that crazy "3" from the corner that took us out too early, it was a bit of a "new territory" year for Xavier basketball.

I believe the man has or will be calling his tax attorney shortly.

bobbiemcgee
06-10-2016, 11:07 PM
http://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2016/06/mu18-court-coaches.aspx

Mack dropping by Colorado next week.

Couldn't hurt recruiting, either.

GoMuskies
06-10-2016, 11:39 PM
We extended that dbag? :)

GIMMFD
06-11-2016, 03:09 PM
This is nothing new. He has a clause in his contract that its automatically extended 1 year for every year he makes the NCAA tournament. Has been that way since he restructed it in 13-14.

Huh really? So basically as long as we make the NCAA tournament, he will never be able to run out of his contract??

EDIT: For clarity, I don't mean leave for another school, but like his contract will always extend.

Milhouse
06-13-2016, 11:21 AM
Huh really? So basically as long as we make the NCAA tournament, he will never be able to run out of his contract??

EDIT: For clarity, I don't mean leave for another school, but like his contract will always extend.

Yeah- I don't know a ton of coaches that do it but it does make sense- as assuming we make it every year- he'll always have 4 years tacked on for recruiting purposes (I'll be here as long as you are etc...).

From an X standpoint it allows for the "extension" headline to be put out every year as well which is always a good PR move after a successful season (deemed here as participating in NCAA tournament).

paulxu
06-13-2016, 10:32 PM
I can't find the right thread to put this.
But got the Xavier Nation mag today with some nice stuff on the team, and a lot more.

Including BJ Dana's article! Props!

X-man
08-04-2016, 02:23 PM
The 2014 IRS-990 form, covering the period from July 1, 2014 to June 30, 2015, is out. Chris Mack's total compensation package from Xavier increased from $1,186,661 for 2013-2014 to $1,420,479. That is a nice raise, and well deserved IMHO. It would seem that his compensation rate is still a bit low compared to many "power conference" coaching positions, but it is getting better. I don't know how it stacks up against other BE programs.

GreatWhiteNorth
08-04-2016, 02:37 PM
That's over 20% increase, not bad at all.

bleedXblue
08-04-2016, 02:57 PM
About half of what JTIII and Wright make.

JTIII is just plain stealing money ..........

I wont be comfortable until he's over 2MM/yr.

GoMuskies
08-04-2016, 02:59 PM
I wont be comfortable until he's over 2MM/yr.


Fair point, but who's going to make sure he gets there? Are you going to take money out of your pocket to make sure a guy getting paid $1.5 million gets paid MORE money? Seems kind of insane to me.

Xville
08-04-2016, 03:24 PM
About half of what JTIII and Wright make.

JTIII is just plain stealing money ..........

I wont be comfortable until he's over 2MM/yr.

The schools that Mack would want to go to smirk at that number. Someone like Louisville would offer 4 million and thats on the low end.

X Factor
08-04-2016, 04:50 PM
Hate to say it, but Dayton pays Archie Miller more than that.

X HAS to pay Mack more.

XMuskieFTW
08-04-2016, 04:59 PM
That 1.42 was for the 14-15 season. After he got that team to the sweet 16 I'd bet he'd probably have been at least in the 1.6 range for last season. Hopefully he's up around 1.8 for this season. He should be.

LA Muskie
08-04-2016, 05:01 PM
Dayton is about twice the size of Xavier (probably even more if graduate programs are considered), with an endowment nearly 4x ours. Now obviously coaches aren't paid out of the endowment, but from a financial perspective Dayton is in a much better position than us. Our basketball program prominence notwithstanding.

X-man
08-04-2016, 05:01 PM
Hate to say it, but Dayton pays Archie Miller more than that.

X HAS to pay Mack more.

Unless Miller got one helluva raise, that is manifestly untrue. In the year that Mack received just under $1.2M (the 2013-2014 time period before the one I just posted above which is for 2014-2015), Miller's total compensation was just under $700K. This is an apples-to-apples comparison from XU and UD's 990 forms. For the record, Jay Wright's total compensation at Villanova for that same time frame was about $2.4M. Unless Wright got a $600K bump, he is not earning double Mack's salary. But he does earn substantially more. However the cost of living on Philly's Main Line is just a tad higher than it is in Cincy.

LA Muskie
08-04-2016, 05:02 PM
That 1.42 was for the 14-15 season. After he got that team to the sweet 16 I'd bet he'd probably have been at least in the 1.6 range for last season. Hopefully he's up around 1.8 for this season. He should be.

He's not at $1.8mm this season. Closer to the $1.6mm number.

X Factor
08-04-2016, 05:56 PM
Unless Miller got one helluva raise, that is manifestly untrue. In the year that Mack received just under $1.2M (the 2013-2014 time period before the one I just posted above which is for 2014-2015), Miller's total compensation was just under $700K. This is an apples-to-apples comparison from XU and UD's 990 forms. For the record, Jay Wright's total compensation at Villanova for that same time frame was about $2.4M. Unless Wright got a $600K bump, he is not earning double Mack's salary. But he does earn substantially more. However the cost of living on Philly's Main Line is just a tad higher than it is in Cincy.

X-man, unfortunately, you're wrong.

http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/news/uds-miller-highest-paid-coach-in-a-10/nrdhc/

X-man
08-05-2016, 07:20 AM
X-man, unfortunately, you're wrong.

http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/news/uds-miller-highest-paid-coach-in-a-10/nrdhc/
Are you accusing UD of submitting false information to the IRS? My data came directly from their publically available IRS-990 form. Look it up for yourself. And if there is other (nonreportable) compensation that schools may give to their coaches, why assume that UD does it but not Xavier?

bleedXblue
08-05-2016, 08:47 AM
The schools that Mack would want to go to smirk at that number. Someone like Louisville would offer 4 million and thats on the low end.

yeah, but........don't you think some of this has a lot to do with Coach Mack getting paid what he believes he's worth AND closer to some of the other top coaches in the league and in the country? There's a reason why guys like Jay Wright and Mark Few and a handful of other coaches who elect to stay in their jobs and NOT take the "bigger" opportunity with more $$$. It's b/c they are getting paid what they are worth AND they love where they are.

Xville
08-05-2016, 09:01 AM
yeah, but........don't you think some of this has a lot to do with Coach Mack getting paid what he believes he's worth AND closer to some of the other top coaches in the league and in the country? There's a reason why guys like Jay Wright and Mark Few and a handful of other coaches who elect to stay in their jobs and NOT take the "bigger" opportunity with more $$$. It's b/c they are getting paid what they are worth AND they love where they are.

Yes and no....I agree that getting paid what he feels he is worth will keep him away from looking at schools like Cal or a place like that. However, in my opinion, it really isn't going to matter if someone like Louisville, Duke or UNC comes sniffing around.

xukeith
08-05-2016, 09:52 AM
Yes and no....I agree that getting paid what he feels he is worth will keep him away from looking at schools like Cal or a place like that. However, in my opinion, it really isn't going to matter if someone like Louisville, Duke or UNC comes sniffing around.

One day Rick Pitino will be let go from Louisville and I think Mack will jump.
We shall see but he is here at X for now!

bleedXblue
08-05-2016, 10:17 AM
One day Rick Pitino will be let go from Louisville and I think Mack will jump.
We shall see but he is here at X for now!

Louisville will have a massive list of suitors......and they will want and get a BIG name. UK has Calipari....for now. They will want and demand a very high level guy. Will Mack get a look....sure he will? But he will not even be close to their top 2-3 initial guys.

theleague
08-05-2016, 10:34 AM
Louisville will have a massive list of suitors......and they will want and get a BIG name. UK has Calipari....for now. They will want and demand a very high level guy. Will Mack get a look....sure he will? But he will not even be close to their top 2-3 initial guys.

During their scandal last year, when they thought they might have to fire Pitino, Mack was their number one candidate. Even reached out to him through back channels....

GoMuskies
08-05-2016, 10:37 AM
During their scandal last year, when they thought they might have to fire Pitino, Mack was their number one candidate. Even reached out to him through back channels....

According to a source who I'm sure is oh so reputable. (If the source on him being the #1 choice isn't Tom Jurich it's not reputable.)

LA Muskie
08-05-2016, 10:38 AM
Are you accusing UD of submitting false information to the IRS? My data came directly from their publically available IRS-990 form. Look it up for yourself. And if there is other (nonreportable) compensation that schools may give to their coaches, why assume that UD does it but not Xavier?

All of Chris's comp is reported because of the way his deal is structured. Other schools structure their deals differently. This has been covered before.


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X-man
08-05-2016, 01:53 PM
All of Chris's comp is reported because of the way his deal is structured. Other schools structure their deals differently. This has been covered before.


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I don't recall ever seeing any reliably documented information on how Xavier structures its compensation package as it relates to its 990 filing compared to how other schools do it. Frankly published coach compensation numbers are all over the place, with no consistency at all. So I tend to put very little stock in stuff like the DDN article as useful for making compensation comparisons. If there are big differences in how well 990 filings measure coaching compensation, that means you can't use those numbers either. But until I see evidence that such is the case, I view the 990 filings as an "apples-to-apples" metric.

bobbiemcgee
08-05-2016, 02:20 PM
Coach Mack gets paid partially thru an endowment, "the Sedler Family Men's Head Basketball Coach", so who knows if all his salary or a portion of it goes thru X. A lot of it could come straight from the endowment. At the time, the endowment was said to to the single largest donation EVER to the Xavier Basketball program. The Sedler Family has committed to keeping him at X and to me that means keeping up with the salary structure for a Coach of his caliber.

LA Muskie
08-05-2016, 03:14 PM
The endowment money (of which very little goes directly to Chris) is absolutely reportable on the 990.


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LA Muskie
08-05-2016, 03:19 PM
I don't recall ever seeing any reliably documented information on how Xavier structures its compensation package as it relates to its 990 filing compared to how other schools do it. Frankly published coach compensation numbers are all over the place, with no consistency at all. So I tend to put very little stock in stuff like the DDN article as useful for making compensation comparisons. If there are big differences in how well 990 filings measure coaching compensation, that means you can't use those numbers either. But until I see evidence that such is the case, I view the 990 filings as an "apples-to-apples" metric.

Let me put it this way: I am your reliable source.

All of Chris's Xavier-related income and other fringe benefits (and that includes his radio show, paid appearances, camps, etc.) is reported by Xavier on the 990 because his deal is structured in a way that all his comp is funneled through Xavier and its affiliates.

Some schools and coaches structure differently. Often, ancillary income is handled outside the university structure. That's just not the case here.


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paulxu
08-05-2016, 03:40 PM
If all his outside income is bundled on that 990, we need to pay him more. I'm doing my (very) little part as much as I can.

X-man
08-05-2016, 04:13 PM
Let me put it this way: I am your reliable source.

All of Chris's Xavier-related income and other fringe benefits (and that includes his radio show, paid appearances, camps, etc.) is reported by Xavier on the 990 because his deal is structured in a way that all his comp is funneled through Xavier and its affiliates.

Some schools and coaches structure differently. Often, ancillary income is handled outside the university structure. That's just not the case here.


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And tell me again why I should believe that you are a reliable source on this. I am not accusing you of not being reliable. Rather I am just wondering why you say you are reliable.

X-man
08-05-2016, 04:25 PM
All of Chris's comp is reported because of the way his deal is structured. Other schools structure their deals differently. This has been covered before.


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That said, it does not apply in UD's case. They apparently structure their compensation in the same way that Xavier does. Here's a link to an article on the pay structure from a couple of years ago.... http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach

LA Muskie
08-05-2016, 04:49 PM
And tell me again why I should believe that you are a reliable source on this. I am not accusing you of not being reliable. Rather I am just wondering why you say you are reliable.

I have personal knowledge. I totally understand if that's not enough for you, but that's really all I can say.


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LA Muskie
08-05-2016, 04:51 PM
That said, it does not apply in UD's case. They apparently structure their compensation in the same way that Xavier does. Here's a link to an article on the pay structure from a couple of years ago.... http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach

Or at least they did a few years ago. I have no personal knowledge about Archie's deal. Nor have I ever claimed otherwise.


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X Factor
08-05-2016, 05:18 PM
I don't care how these contracts are structured. If you believe the UD athletic director, and I don't know why you wouldn't, Archie is making probably around 1.8 million per year or more.

That is total compensation, and that's more than Xavier is paying Mack as far as I know.


UD would not reveal Miller’s current total compensation, but outgoing UD President Dan Curran indicated that the popular coach has received two raises since his pay was bumped to $1.16 million two years ago, after the Flyers advanced to the Elite Eight in the 2014 tournament.

“It’s been increased appropriately,” Curran said. “He is where Shaka was.”

Curran was referring to former VCU coach Shaka Smart, who was the A-10’s highest-paid coach before he took the University of Texas job in April 2015. ESPN reported at the time that Smart made $1.8 million in his last year at VCU.

UD wants to keep Miller the highest-paid coach in the A-10, Curran said. The Flyers have a 78-28 record over the past three seasons and are 115-55 in Miller’s first five seasons.

“We want him at the top of the A-10,” Curran said. “We want to make it so he financially isn’t questioning marginal jobs in some of the larger conferences.”

Kudos to UD for trying to keep Archie.

X-man
08-05-2016, 06:15 PM
Or at least they did a few years ago. I have no personal knowledge about Archie's deal. Nor have I ever claimed otherwise.


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Thanks. That post from me you are referring to was directed to X Factor, not to you.

kmcrawfo
08-06-2016, 08:40 AM
The endowment money (of which very little goes directly to Chris) is absolutely reportable on the 990.


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As far as I am informed The Sedler donation, which was substantial, but not as large as I think some of you may be thinking did not allow a significant raise in Chris Mack's salary as much as it allowed reallocation of funds that were previously going towards Chris Mack's salary into other areas of need. Thus, Chris Mack's salary is kept stable/grows as it would have otherwise but we can pay the assistants more or invest in other areas. This is good since stability of the assistant coaching staff is vital for recruiting, etc.

Things are very tight in the athletic department budget-wise. Donations are very specifically used for specific projects and there aren't really excess funds laying around for increases in salary, etc. There is a new project I am supporting in the next phase of Cintas Renovations and Xavier literally couldn't even start on architectural drawings until the funds for the entire cost of the project were received. This is why increased support from alumni and fans is so important for the advancement of our program. We are pulling from a much smaller base/number of fans than our peers/competition and what Xavier has done with the resources it has is incredible, but we need more $$$ to maintain our upward trajectory. Every little bit helps.

As always, please take everything I say with a grain of salt as it is just my understanding of things and not meant to be a "promise" or "guarantee" of any sort.

have a nice weekend.

LA Muskie
08-06-2016, 01:26 PM
KM is, as you would expect, 100% correct about all of this.


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GIMMFD
08-07-2016, 08:34 PM
KM is, as you would expect, 100% correct about all of this.


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Sooo I should use the $40,000 in loan money that I'm receiving for school and just send it to the alumni association???

XUGRAD80
08-08-2016, 09:02 AM
Sooo I should use the $40,000 in loan money that I'm receiving for school and just send it to the alumni association???


You could skip the association and just send it to me........:)

Muskie
08-08-2016, 09:45 AM
As far as I am informed The Sedler donation, which was substantial, but not as large as I think some of you may be thinking did not allow a significant raise in Chris Mack's salary as much as it allowed reallocation of funds that were previously going towards Chris Mack's salary into other areas of need. Thus, Chris Mack's salary is kept stable/grows as it would have otherwise but we can pay the assistants more or invest in other areas. This is good since stability of the assistant coaching staff is vital for recruiting, etc.

Things are very tight in the athletic department budget-wise. Donations are very specifically used for specific projects and there aren't really excess funds laying around for increases in salary, etc. There is a new project I am supporting in the next phase of Cintas Renovations and Xavier literally couldn't even start on architectural drawings until the funds for the entire cost of the project were received. This is why increased support from alumni and fans is so important for the advancement of our program. We are pulling from a much smaller base/number of fans than our peers/competition and what Xavier has done with the resources it has is incredible, but we need more $$$ to maintain our upward trajectory. Every little bit helps.

As always, please take everything I say with a grain of salt as it is just my understanding of things and not meant to be a "promise" or "guarantee" of any sort.

have a nice weekend.

+1000

GuyFawkes38
08-08-2016, 11:29 AM
Dayton is about twice the size of Xavier (probably even more if graduate programs are considered), with an endowment nearly 4x ours. Now obviously coaches aren't paid out of the endowment, but from a financial perspective Dayton is in a much better position than us. Our basketball program prominence notwithstanding.

I think this is a big part of the reason why X should do everything in it's power to block Dayton's access to the Big East. That's one big advantage that X does have now.

waggy
08-08-2016, 11:42 AM
X don't need to block Dayton. Gtown, Nova, St John's wont ever go to that backwater.

Child please.

Muskie
08-08-2016, 12:06 PM
X don't need to block Dayton. Gtown, Nova, St John's wont ever go to that backwater.

Child please.

What?

birdman71
08-08-2016, 01:21 PM
Louisville will have a massive list of suitors......and they will want and get a BIG name. UK has Calipari....for now. They will want and demand a very high level guy. Will Mack get a look....sure he will? But he will not even be close to their top 2-3 initial guys.

True for now. Depends when Pitino leaves. In 3 or 4 years, Mack could be one of the top 2 or 3 they'd offer, but the kind of success that would take would cause X to give him a big bump, maybe not Louisville money, but maybe enough to keep him here.

vee4xu
08-08-2016, 09:51 PM
I wonder if, "Sedler Family Men's Head Basketball Coach Chris Mack speaking" is how he answers the phone.

I'm thinking something like: Hi, Home City Ice, this is Chris. How can I refresh your day?

waggy
08-09-2016, 01:18 AM
What?

I guess it needs to be repeated.

Gtown, Nova, St John's wont ever go to that backwater.

Child please.

Muskie
08-09-2016, 10:53 AM
I guess it needs to be repeated.

Gtown, Nova, St John's wont ever go to that backwater.

Child please.

When I read it the other day it made no sense. Yet I read It today and understand it perfectly.


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