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bjf123
03-31-2016, 09:30 AM
Just reported on WLW that JP was arrested last night in Hyde Park.


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XU3232
03-31-2016, 09:34 AM
Just reported on WLW that JP was arrested last night in Hyde Park.


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Just heard this as well. Not good.

Muncie
03-31-2016, 09:38 AM
What's the charge ?

Milhouse
03-31-2016, 09:38 AM
wednesday night in hyde park...i'm betting Mug Club.

fellahmuskie
03-31-2016, 09:43 AM
It's officially the offseason. Hooray.

xavierdude
03-31-2016, 09:45 AM
I've heard exposing genitals?! I sure hope not.

casualfan
03-31-2016, 09:47 AM
What's the charge ?

Disorderly conduct and obstructing official business. Apparently he was hammered and exposed himself ton everyone in the bar.

xubrew
03-31-2016, 09:50 AM
Disorderly conduct and obstructing official business. Apparently he was hammered and exposed himself ton everyone in the bar.

If that's what happened, I can live with that. Being stupid isn't good, but it's a ton better than being an asshole, or a woman beater, or a thief, or something along those lines.

markchal
03-31-2016, 09:50 AM
Oh. That's much better than I thought it was gonna be. Not excusing it, but at least it's not a fight/DUI/etc. Hopefully he learns from it.

XMuskieFTW
03-31-2016, 09:51 AM
In terms of arrestable offenses, I'll take this one. Glad it wasn't anything worse. Still, so dumb.

casualfan
03-31-2016, 09:52 AM
If that's what happened, I can live with that. Being stupid isn't good, but it's a ton better than being an asshole, or a woman beater, or something along those lines.

Since when does pulling your dick out in public not qualify as being an asshole?

xeus
03-31-2016, 09:54 AM
According to court records, he pulled his pants down (disorderly conduct, a minor misdemeanor) and then handed the cops his fake id (obstructing official business, a 2nd degree misdemeanor).

Who among us hasn't pulled down his pants in a bar?

mohr5150
03-31-2016, 09:56 AM
Get the fuck out, Macura. You are my 8 year old's favorite player. How am I supposed to explain this shit to him? I say see you later. Fucking dumbass.

ammtd34
03-31-2016, 09:57 AM
Get the fuck out, Macura. You are my 8 year old's favorite player. How am I supposed to explain this shit to him? I say see you later. Fucking dumbass.

Why do you have to?

XMuskieFTW
03-31-2016, 09:58 AM
Well he's in for two years of being harassed by road fans. Hopefully they are at least creative with the chants, but he won't hear the end of this one.

xu82
03-31-2016, 09:59 AM
Get the fuck out, Macura. You are my 8 year old's favorite player. How am I supposed to explain this shit to him? I say see you later. Fucking dumbass.

One day your 8 year old is going to grow up and do something stupid that he regrets. Should we throw him out?

Muskie
03-31-2016, 09:59 AM
I hate the off-season.

Woodburn
03-31-2016, 10:00 AM
Get the fuck out, Macura. You are my 8 year old's favorite player. How am I supposed to explain this shit to him? I say see you later. Fucking dumbass.

Please tell me you're joking.

xeus
03-31-2016, 10:04 AM
Get the fuck out, Macura. You are my 8 year old's favorite player. How am I supposed to explain this shit to him? I say see you later. Fucking dumbass.


Here's a helpful article on teaching your child that heroes sometimes fail. (http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/14/living/parenting-kids-disappointed/)

Muskie
03-31-2016, 10:06 AM
Hopefully no pets were stolen during this melee.

SemajParlor
03-31-2016, 10:06 AM
Aw man, he just made his road games quite the experience.

markchal
03-31-2016, 10:08 AM
Get the fuck out, Macura. You are my 8 year old's favorite player. How am I supposed to explain this shit to him? I say see you later. Fucking dumbass.

Maybe your kid should have heroes that aren't also kids?

Muskie
03-31-2016, 10:10 AM
Before the masses get out of hand... let's keep the personal attacks to a minimum. This certainly isn't a board on parenting.

THRILLHOUSE
03-31-2016, 10:10 AM
Get the fuck out, Macura. You are my 8 year old's favorite player. How am I supposed to explain this shit to him? I say see you later. Fucking dumbass.

http://www.millennialstar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/3rnvk6.jpg

ballyhoohoo
03-31-2016, 10:11 AM
Who's going to explain this to Chris Carpenters children?

NY44
03-31-2016, 10:12 AM
Who's going to explain this to JP this morning?

ballyhoohoo
03-31-2016, 10:13 AM
Well he's in for two years of being harassed by road fans. Hopefully they are at least creative with the chants, but he won't hear the end of this one.

I bet he gets off on this. Being hated by opposing fans that is, not letting his Wang Chung in public.

Then again maybe he gets off on that also. I had a cousin arrested for that once.

ballyhoohoo
03-31-2016, 10:15 AM
Can JP pull his Wang out while jumping off one foot?

xu82
03-31-2016, 10:21 AM
If anyone could become more dangerous due to fan taunting, it might be JP. Our opponents just might make an appeal to their fans to stop.

DfinnsDog10
03-31-2016, 10:21 AM
Hopefully no pets were stolen during this melee.

I wasn't stolen. :lmao:

MuskieXU
03-31-2016, 10:21 AM
Someone should have reminded him to zip em up.

xu82
03-31-2016, 10:22 AM
Do farm animals actually count as pets?

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 10:23 AM
mug club can get the best of us sometimes

mohr5150
03-31-2016, 10:23 AM
The drinking doesn't bother me, as long as he wasn't driving. Pulling your balls out in public? Have some class. And for those of you who have issues with my 8 year old son looking up to the players on this team, you have no clue, or you must be so much better parents than I am somehow.

GoMuskies
03-31-2016, 10:24 AM
I mean, I think we already knew JP could act like a jackass. We haven't really learned anything new here, but JP will be out several hundred bucks.

Newswired
03-31-2016, 10:26 AM
The drinking doesn't bother me, as long as he wasn't driving. Pulling your balls out in public? Have some class. And for those of you who have issues with my 8 year old son looking up to the players on this team, you have no clue, or you must be so much better parents than I am somehow.

Agreed. It was my kids who informed me of this today, so they are well aware of everything going on as soon as it happens. It can be explained but I would just as soon not have to. I can only imagine what Mack is thinking right now....

Juice
03-31-2016, 10:26 AM
Get the fuck out, Macura. You are my 8 year old's favorite player. How am I supposed to explain this shit to him? I say see you later. Fucking dumbass.

Be a parent and do your job. If you can't explain this to him then what happens when there are tough questions?

Newswired
03-31-2016, 10:27 AM
Be a parent and do your job. If you can't explain this to him then what happens when there are tough questions?

Relax! He didn't say he wasn't going to do it. Sheesh.

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 10:28 AM
The drinking doesn't bother me, as long as he wasn't driving. Pulling your balls out in public? Have some class. And for those of you who have issues with my 8 year old son looking up to the players on this team, you have no clue, or you must be so much better parents than I am somehow.

yeah nothing wrong with that. I admired college players when i was that age. May as well be NBA players when you are that young.

GoMuskies
03-31-2016, 10:28 AM
Be a parent and do your job. If you can't explain this to him then what happens when there are tough questions?

Dear little Jimmy, sometimes our heroes are assholes, just like the rest of us.

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 10:30 AM
definitely not a good thing for JP, but there are many worse incidents that often occur with college players.

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 10:30 AM
Aw man, he just made his road games quite the experience.

i kind of think he might enjoy that experience haha

ballyhoohoo
03-31-2016, 10:32 AM
Dear little Jimmy, sometimes our heroes are assholes, just like the rest of us.

Never meet your childhood heroes. Never.

nuts4xu
03-31-2016, 10:33 AM
The drinking doesn't bother me, as long as he wasn't driving. Pulling your balls out in public? Have some class. And for those of you who have issues with my 8 year old son looking up to the players on this team, you have no clue, or you must be so much better parents than I am somehow.

I have a 9 year old, I understand your perspective. I like situations to use as "teaching moments" with my son.

They won't boot JP for this indiscretion, nor should they. He will learn a valuable lesson the hard way, let's hope this is the last time he has to learn something like this. But my guess, this won't be the last bad decision JP makes because of alcohol. If I told you my last bad decision was when I was 20, I'd be lying through my key board.

bjf123
03-31-2016, 10:33 AM
Maybe a reflection session is needed.


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ballyhoohoo
03-31-2016, 10:35 AM
definitely not a good thing for JP, but there are many worse incidents that often occur with college players.

The most tweets about this are coming from @natibuck513. You can guess his alma mater. sUCks. Cause pulling your junk out is worse than kid napping, punching a police horse, branding someone with a hanger.

Milhouse
03-31-2016, 10:35 AM
Eh UD had two players stealing from other students get arrested last year...believe me this is embarassing but could be much worse

Juice
03-31-2016, 10:39 AM
Eh UD had two players stealing from other students get arrested last year...believe me this is embarassing but could be much worse

Not just stealing, going into their dorm rooms when sleeping. That's a burglary and a felony. Stealing/Theft is a misdemeanor.

X-band '01
03-31-2016, 10:39 AM
Oh, J. Pee-Wee Macura..

BlueGuy
03-31-2016, 10:40 AM
Drinking underage at a bar, possibly mooning people at the bar while drunk... Most people can prob put themselves in that exact same spot when they were 20. We were just lucky enough not to be arrested for it.

Disappointed he got arrested, but not mad at him at all. Anyone saying he should be kicked off the team is a dork.



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RoseyMuskie
03-31-2016, 10:41 AM
Quite simply, dumb.

That being said, I'm laughing at this. He'll thrive off the harassment on the road.

And he'll go to court, won't contest, go to "Decisions Class," perform community service, and will have this expunged.

xufan2434
03-31-2016, 10:41 AM
My suggestion would be to maybe not tell your 8 year old son this happened. If he hears it from someone else, that's one thing. But easily avoidable by just not saying anything.

In terms of what he did, yes he was probably being a jackass. But for one, it's the off season so I have no problem with him going out and getting hammered. He's in college. Second, if you didn't get caught being a jackass while under the influence at the age of 19-20, well then you're a better man than most. I was expecting a fight. Relieved he was just being stupid.

xuwin
03-31-2016, 10:42 AM
Get the fuck out, Macura. You are my 8 year old's favorite player. How am I supposed to explain this shit to him? I say see you later. Fucking dumbass.

How do you explain your language to your 8 year old?

zanesxu
03-31-2016, 10:43 AM
Sucks as a fan, sucks more for him. Stupid mistake, but the difference is he got caught. It's bad, there's been much worse.

Trying to paint humans in one way is a pretty limited way to think... we're all a cult of personality...

best thing JP can learn is don't do it again...

GoMuskies
03-31-2016, 10:45 AM
The good news is that an 8 year old (particularly if it's a boy) will TOTALLY get how funny it is to pull down your pants and show everyone your ass. So an 8 year-old will probably like Macura MORE after this.

XMuskieFTW
03-31-2016, 10:46 AM
Think he'll get a few game suspension to start the season? In terms of timing, this is the best time he could've done something stupid like this if he was going to.

waggy
03-31-2016, 10:47 AM
This is wrong?

xubrew
03-31-2016, 10:49 AM
Since when does pulling your dick out in public not qualify as being an asshole?

I think it makes you look like an ass. I would categorize it as being of the dumbass category.

I don't want to come across as defending it. I'd say probably over 90 percent of the things I've done that I'm ashamed of I did when I was drunk off my ass, and in the moment it always seemed like a good idea. It went on way longer and way later in life for me than it ever should have. The only difference between myself and someone who did something stupid that ended up altering the course of their life is that I was lucky. I never got in any real trouble, but I did plenty of things that could have landed me in tons of it, and I know it.

So, for me, I'll take being stupid over being an asshole, although I'd much prefer neither. Beating someone up is being an asshole. Robbing or stealing something is being an asshole. Sexually assaulting someone is being an asshole, and that's putting it mildly.

Pulling your junk out to give it a little bit of air and then handing a fake ID to a cop, yeah, that's not smart. But, I'd much rather have a stupid person than a person that's mean spirited or a complete douchebag. Just my opinion. Not saying you're wrong.

Kahns Krazy
03-31-2016, 10:49 AM
Someone called the cops because a dude dropped his pants in a bar?

Whatever happened to just throwing a guy out and letting it go at that? I think the lesson for your kids are that his hero is treated differently because of who he is.

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 10:49 AM
Think he'll get a few game suspension to start the season? In terms of timing, this is the best time he could've done something stupid like this if he was going to.

I would be very surprised if he were to be suspended because of this. Should be "handled internally" in whatever way Mack feels appropriate

Blue Blooded-05
03-31-2016, 10:49 AM
Get the fuck out, Macura. You are my 8 year old's favorite player. How am I supposed to explain this shit to him? I say see you later. Fucking dumbass.



http://youtu.be/4gqk4WPnrpM

Milhouse
03-31-2016, 10:51 AM
http://butlerhoops.com/blog/xaviers-jp-macura-arrested/

Juice
03-31-2016, 10:52 AM
Someone called the cops because a dude dropped his pants in a bar?

Whatever happened to just throwing a guy out and letting it go at that? I think the lesson for your kids are that his hero is treated differently because of who he is.

Since they charged him with disorderly conduct, my guess is that he was generally just being a jackass and dropping his pants is one of the reasons cited as why he was disorderly. If they really wanted to go after him for dropping his pants they could have charged him with public indecency but that's also depends on if it was his junk or ass.

mohr5150
03-31-2016, 10:54 AM
How do you explain your language to your 8 year old?

Trying to compare foul language with pulling your pants down in front of a crowd of people cannot even be remotely compared. If he just mooned people, immature and stupid, but I could live with that. But showing your junk to people is crossing a line that shouldn't be crossed. He has to be held to a higher standard because he is a student at a Catholic school where he has accepted the role as a public representative. Some of you may not think the Catholic part should matter, but it should, in my opinion. There are certain professions where you could keep your job with this kind of behavior and others where you would get the ax immediately. Macura is in a position where showing your genitals in public shouldn't be tolerated.

Juice
03-31-2016, 10:55 AM
Trying to compare foul language with pulling your pants down in front of a crowd of people cannot even be remotely compared. If he just mooned people, immature and stupid, but I could live with that. But showing your junk to people is crossing a line that shouldn't be crossed. He has to be held to a higher standard because he is a student at a Catholic school where he has accepted the role as a public representative. Some of you may not think the Catholic part should matter, but it should, in my opinion. There are certain professions where you could keep your job with this kind of behavior and others where you would get the ax immediately. Macura is in a position where showing your genitals in public shouldn't be tolerated.

He literally did none of those things.

This is what he signed up to do/follow: http://www.nationalletter.org/nliProvisions/index.html

nuts4xu
03-31-2016, 10:57 AM
Macura presented an ID with the name of “Myles Fox Morrissey”

Kudos for the creativity on the name. He could've went one name like McLovin, but instead goes 3 names for that extra "real" look. Never trust a guy with 3 last names.

http://s1.favim.com/orig/20/driver-fun-hawaii-mclovin-movie-Favim.com-203552.jpg?rel=author

ballyhoohoo
03-31-2016, 10:58 AM
http://butlerhoops.com/blog/xaviers-jp-macura-arrested/

The Xavier fan commenting on it is obviously a butler fan. The cadence and tone sounds like they are a teen

xeus
03-31-2016, 10:59 AM
mohr, just to be clear, you think JP should be expelled from the university?

xeus
03-31-2016, 11:00 AM
Kudos for the creativity on the name. He could've went one name like McLovin, but instead goes 3 names for that extra "real" look. Never trust a guy with 3 last names.

http://s1.favim.com/orig/20/driver-fun-hawaii-mclovin-movie-Favim.com-203552.jpg?rel=author

Myles Fox Morrissey is a real guy - plays on Xavier's golf team.

GoMuskies
03-31-2016, 11:00 AM
I would suspend him from playing in games for the next 7 months.

mohr5150
03-31-2016, 11:01 AM
You can drop all the legal mumbo jumbo you want, but everyone on this team and teams all over the country know that they are public representatives of the university. Their good deeds make the school look good, and their poor decisions make the school look bad. And, literally, he is a student at a Catholic school. And I don't need you to tell me to do my job as a parent. I tend to believe I do pretty good job of doing it and don't need someone who has no clue who I am telling me to do it.

GoMuskies
03-31-2016, 11:03 AM
I'd prefer we not try to hold anyone to a higher standard due to being at a Catholic school. There is no benefit to anyone in doing so, and you might actually make it harder to recruit if you tell someone they'll be held to a higher standard than a kid at Ohio State.

xubrew
03-31-2016, 11:04 AM
Someone called the cops because a dude dropped his pants in a bar?

Whatever happened to just throwing a guy out and letting it go at that? I think the lesson for your kids are that his hero is treated differently because of who he is.

This was actually my first thought. Why didn't they just throw him out?? If for no other reason than if you work at this bar, you just want to be done with it and get back to work. Calling the cops takes a lot more time and effort than just shoving him out the door.

redhawkmuskie
03-31-2016, 11:05 AM
How many on here can claim they have never done anything stupid while drunk? Let's not forget this is a 20 year old college student. Of course he shouldn't be excused but let's be realistic here. As a college student, I say give him a break. He could've done FAR worse.

xeus
03-31-2016, 11:06 AM
You can drop all the legal mumbo jumbo you want, but everyone on this team and teams all over the country know that they are public representatives of the university. Their good deeds make the school look good, and their poor decisions make the school look bad. And, literally, he is a student at a Catholic school.

Pulling your pants down in public is frowned upon by people of all faiths. Not sure why you are making this a Catholic issue. It's not like he had an abortion.


And I don't need you to tell me to do my job as a parent. I tend to believe I do pretty good job of doing it and don't need someone who has no clue who I am telling me to do it.

Then don't come on the board and ask how you're supposed to "explain this shit" to your kid...

mohr5150
03-31-2016, 11:07 AM
mohr, just to be clear, you think JP should be expelled from the university?

If he exposed his genitals in public, then some serious thought needs to go into his future. I don't know if expulsion is the answer. That seems a bit steep. What would happen to you at your job if you got arrested for exposing your genitals in public? I know indecent exposure isn't listed on the arrest sheet, so maybe he didn't do that. I know I would be packing up my stuff at my job if I got arrested for that.

gladdenguy
03-31-2016, 11:09 AM
How do you explain your language to your 8 year old?

Calling a college kid a f$%king dumba$$ is worse than JP doing what he did. At least JP's incident was funny.

nuts4xu
03-31-2016, 11:10 AM
Myles Fox Morrissey is a real guy - plays on Xavier's golf team.

Then he should've stuck with McLovin
http://www.dorkd.net/images/03/4f1a1077a871eae0c886447af867cf87.jpg

Cheesehead
03-31-2016, 11:11 AM
I think some folks are overreacting here. He did a VERY stupid drunken thing. He is not a sex offender. Maybe he "mooned" someone? Who Knows? JP is a student and not working for P&G. Relax.

I have already discussed this w/ some friends and all can say is thank God there were no cell phones social media when I was at XU. I may never have been hired for a job, period. I think I turned out ok and my kids so far have been good kids. My son is associated with the program.

scoscox
03-31-2016, 11:12 AM
It said he pulled his pants down, so I'd guess he was not fully exposed

Newswired
03-31-2016, 11:12 AM
Not sure how germane this is to the conversation, but this is what I tell my very impressionable 13-year-old son: When you as a fan wear a Xavier t-shirt out and about, whether you like it or not, you are in a way representing the brand that is Xavier University. Obviously the same applies exponentially when you wear the uniform. IMHO a version of this message needs to be sent to JP and it should be as public as the University can make it.

THRILLHOUSE
03-31-2016, 11:12 AM
What would happen to you at your job if you got arrested for exposing your genitals in public?

Not a damn thing. (assuming it's a situation like JP's, and not me whipping it out in the middle of a work meeting or something like that)

Xville
03-31-2016, 11:12 AM
If he exposed his genitals in public, then some serious thought needs to go into his future. I don't know if expulsion is the answer. That seems a bit steep. What would happen to you at your job if you got arrested for exposing your genitals in public? I know indecent exposure isn't listed on the arrest sheet, so maybe he didn't do that. I know I would be packing up my stuff at my job if I got arrested for that.

Not that I would do it, but my job would never even know about it. And even if they did, I doubt they would care all that much. He wasn't hurting anyone...and he is 20...he did something stupid.. I did a crap ton of stupid stuff when I was 20. If he got a dui, or assault, or something like that, I could understand your frustration and anger, but for this I don't really get it.

mohr5150
03-31-2016, 11:12 AM
Pulling your pants down in public is frowned upon by people of all faiths. Not sure why you are making this a Catholic issue. It's not like he had an abortion.



Then don't come on the board and ask how you're supposed to "explain this shit" to your kid...

The Catholic part comes in because a higher standard should be used for a Catholic school as opposed to a public institution. I. never said other faiths aren't against pulling your pants down in public. This is just another opportunity for you to stir the shit with me, which, for some reason, you get some enjoyment out of. As for your second comment, I was actually looking for how others may be planning on explaining it to their kids, not for some holier than thou comment.

AviatorX
03-31-2016, 11:12 AM
If he exposed his genitals in public, then some serious thought needs to go into his future. I don't know if expulsion is the answer. That seems a bit steep. What would happen to you at your job if you got arrested for exposing your genitals in public? I know indecent exposure isn't listed on the arrest sheet, so maybe he didn't do that. I know I would be packing up my stuff at my job if I got arrested for that.

Yeah...but being a college student is different than being employed. Not really a valid comparison.

XMuskieFTW
03-31-2016, 11:13 AM
If he exposed his genitals in public, then some serious thought needs to go into his future. I don't know if expulsion is the answer. That seems a bit steep. What would happen to you at your job if you got arrested for exposing your genitals in public? I know indecent exposure isn't listed on the arrest sheet, so maybe he didn't do that. I know I would be packing up my stuff at my job if I got arrested for that.

Didn't realize school was a job. Until student athletes start getting paid this comparison certainly can't be made.

xufan2434
03-31-2016, 11:13 AM
If he exposed his genitals in public, then some serious thought needs to go into his future. I don't know if expulsion is the answer. That seems a bit steep. What would happen to you at your job if you got arrested for exposing your genitals in public? I know indecent exposure isn't listed on the arrest sheet, so maybe he didn't do that. I know I would be packing up my stuff at my job if I got arrested for that.

This isn't a profession. This isn't a job. He is a student athlete and a kid. Kids make dumb decisions. Also quit pulling the Catholic card. I'm a Catholic myself, but that part shouldn't matter. If you want to say he's a representative because he's on scholarship, fine. But that standard should be held the same at every university. Take pride that it's a Catholic University, I do too. But don't act as if Catholics never get hammered and make dumb decisions.

THRILLHOUSE
03-31-2016, 11:14 AM
As for your second comment, I was actually looking for how others may be planning on explaining it to their kids, not for some holier than thou comment.

Oh please, as soon as anyone said how one should explain it to a child you went all "HOW DARE YOU TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY CHILD!".

scoscox
03-31-2016, 11:14 AM
Only worry is how awful Xavier has been at handling these situations for the past 10 years or so. Hopefully this is dealt with sensibly

Juice
03-31-2016, 11:16 AM
If he exposed his genitals in public, then some serious thought needs to go into his future. I don't know if expulsion is the answer. That seems a bit steep. What would happen to you at your job if you got arrested for exposing your genitals in public? I know indecent exposure isn't listed on the arrest sheet, so maybe he didn't do that. I know I would be packing up my stuff at my job if I got arrested for that.

It's not a job. He doesn't get paid. He's considered an amateur athlete.

nuts4xu
03-31-2016, 11:18 AM
It said he pulled his pants down, so I'd guess he was not fully exposed

Don't kids today walk around with their pants down nearly all the time?

Juice
03-31-2016, 11:18 AM
The Catholic part comes in because a higher standard should be used for a Catholic school as opposed to a public institution. I. never said other faiths aren't against pulling your pants down in public. This is just another opportunity for you to stir the shit with me, which, for some reason, you get some enjoyment out of. As for your second comment, I was actually looking for how others may be planning on explaining it to their kids, not for some holier than thou comment.

Damn, I wish all those priests who molested young kids would have remembered they were representing Catholic institutions or maybe the higher ups that covered all of it up. Shit....

NY44
03-31-2016, 11:19 AM
Damn, I wish all those priests who molested young kids would have remembered they were representing Catholic institutions or maybe the higher ups that covered all of it up. Shit....

Shots fired!

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 11:22 AM
he went to the bar with a fake ID, got trashed, mooned everyone. who cares. embarrassing for him, but in the grand scheme of things its not a huge deal.

mohr5150
03-31-2016, 11:23 AM
Oh please, as soon as anyone said how one should explain it to a child you went all "HOW DARE YOU TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY CHILD!".

I never said that and appreciated the multiple constructive comments by several on here.

SemajParlor
03-31-2016, 11:23 AM
Who's going to explain this to JP this morning?

This was laugh out loud funny

SemajParlor
03-31-2016, 11:23 AM
So JP is McConaughey from Dazed and Confused, right? Like that's a real thing?

mohr5150
03-31-2016, 11:24 AM
Damn, I wish all those priests who molested young kids would have remembered they were representing Catholic institutions or maybe the higher ups that covered all of it up. Shit....

Totally agree and is a much, much more serious situation.

nuts4xu
03-31-2016, 11:25 AM
You can drop all the legal mumbo jumbo you want, but everyone on this team and teams all over the country know that they are public representatives of the university. Their good deeds make the school look good, and their poor decisions make the school look bad. And, literally, he is a student at a Catholic school. And I don't need you to tell me to do my job as a parent. I tend to believe I do pretty good job of doing it and don't need someone who has no clue who I am telling me to do it.

You sounds like you are bitter about missing the NIT in the XavierHoops Madness thread. Get your rep points up, keep the good takes coming, and you will get there my friend.

SemajParlor
03-31-2016, 11:25 AM
The Catholic part comes in because a higher standard should be used for a Catholic school as opposed to a public institution.

Yo, GTFO here with this.

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 11:26 AM
You sounds like you are bitter about missing the NIT in the XavierHoops Madness thread. Get your rep points up, keep the good takes coming, and you will get there my friend.

well hes at least getting his posts up today

THRILLHOUSE
03-31-2016, 11:27 AM
Oh please, as soon as anyone said how one should explain it to a child you went all "HOW DARE YOU TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY CHILD!".


I never said that and appreciated the multiple constructive comments by several on here.

Dude...


And I don't need you to tell me to do my job as a parent. I tend to believe I do pretty good job of doing it and don't need someone who has no clue who I am telling me to do it.

NY44
03-31-2016, 11:28 AM
Can we cut through the sludge here? Sorry if any children are offended by JP. That stinks, but he's a basketball player first and foremost. Can someone please just tell me if there is any chance of serious repercussion here?

Juice
03-31-2016, 11:29 AM
Can we cut through the sludge here? Sorry if any children are offended by JP. That stinks, but he's a basketball player first and foremost. Can someone please just tell me if there is any chance of serious repercussion here?

No, he's charged with a misdemeanor of the 2nd degree and 4th degree. Assuming he has little to no record, he will get diversion or probation. He can face up to a total of 120 days in jail (90 +30 on the two chrages), but will not see a day of it.

GoMuskies
03-31-2016, 11:30 AM
Can someone please just tell me if there is any chance of serious repercussion here?


If you think running until you puke several mornings before the rest of campus is awake is a serious repercussion....then probably yes.

NY44
03-31-2016, 11:30 AM
No, he's charged with a misdemeanor of the 2nd degree and 4th degree. Assuming he has little to no record, he will get diversion or probation. He can face up to a total of 120 days in jail (90 +30 on the two chrages), but will not see a day of it.

and from the school administration or the NCAA?

Muskie
03-31-2016, 11:31 AM
If you think running until you puke several mornings before the rest of campus is awake is a serious repercussion....then probably yes.

I believe he will also be relieved of his jersey until he earns it back. It's what the classy big time Coaches do.

Nigel Tufnel
03-31-2016, 11:32 AM
Back in 93, a certain Xavier basketball player used to walk thru the hallways at Kuhlman butt naked. When seeing what he was packing, all I could do was an appreciative slow clap.

It was dumb, but I can't judge. I did much worse when I was 20. Hell, I've probably done much worse when I was 30 and 40.

Juice
03-31-2016, 11:32 AM
and from the school administration or the NCAA?

Oh hell if I know on that. From the NCAA? My guess is absolutely nothing. From the school? who knows since he did this so far out from the season.

XMuskieFTW
03-31-2016, 11:34 AM
I believe he will also be relieved of his jersey until he earns it back. It's what the classy big time Coaches do.

I hope they have him put his jersey on so they can physically remove it first.

Muskie
03-31-2016, 11:35 AM
I hope they have him put his jersey on so they can physically remove it first.

That's key.

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 11:35 AM
Oh hell if I know on that. From the NCAA? My guess is absolutely nothing. From the school? who knows since he did this so far out from the season.

Should just be punishment from Mack, i dont think anyone else really needs to get involved, its not like it was a violence or drug related offense.

mohr5150
03-31-2016, 11:38 AM
Dude...

If you don't know the difference between offering advice and being a jerk then I don't know what to tell you. As I've stated, the getting drunk and acting like a fool is one thing and I can accept that as foolish behavior but common. When I heard that he exposed his genitals, it took it to another level for me. If he didn't do that, then fine. But if he did, that's the issue that will be hard to explain to an 8 year old if he finds out about it. And makes this a much more serious situation.

THRILLHOUSE
03-31-2016, 11:39 AM
Should just be punishment from Mack, i dont think anyone else really needs to get involved, its not like it was a violence or drug related offense.

Agreed. If it was during the season, yeah suspend him for a game. Not really sure what Mack will do during the offseason, but now obviously JP will have a short leash and can't screw up again off the court.

xeus
03-31-2016, 11:39 AM
The Catholic part comes in because a higher standard should be used for a Catholic school as opposed to a public institution.

I totally disagree. Besides, can you imagine other schools using that against us in recruiting?


This is just another opportunity for you to stir the shit with me, which, for some reason, you get some enjoyment out of.

I can explain that - it stems from when you neg repped me and called me a dick for explaining NFL rules.


As for your second comment, I was actually looking for how others may be planning on explaining it to their kids, not for some holier than thou comment.

I posted a helpful parenting article for you. You're welcome.

GoMuskies
03-31-2016, 11:40 AM
But if he did, that's the issue that will be hard to explain to an 8 year old if he finds out about it.


As the father of an 8 year old myself, I'm not really sure why this will be so difficult. He'll probably think it's hilarious.

AviatorX
03-31-2016, 11:40 AM
Am I missing something or where is it reported that he exposed himself? Feel like if that's the case the police report would have said that specifically instead of dropped his pants.

Chermy23
03-31-2016, 11:40 AM
How is this de- raling all the sudden about the impact on some 8 year old kid??

xeus
03-31-2016, 11:41 AM
When I heard that he exposed his genitals, it took it to another level for me.

Why do you keep saying that? It is not in the police report. Your speculation is premature and inappropriate.

MHettel
03-31-2016, 11:43 AM
Back in 93, a certain Xavier basketball player used to walk thru the hallways at Kuhlman butt naked. When seeing what he was packing, all I could do was an appreciative slow clap.

It was dumb, but I can't judge. I did much worse when I was 20. Hell, I've probably done much worse when I was 30 and 40.

Hilarious. I recall that exactly. He used to take an "intermission" and step out into the hallway with a towel and wipe himself down. Then back into the room and the screaming would start up again. Priceless.

scoscox
03-31-2016, 11:43 AM
How is this de- raling all the sudden about the impact on some 8 year old kid??

The kid does it all the time in his own daily life, will have no idea why it's even a bad thing at this point, and won't remember it in a month anyway

Juice
03-31-2016, 11:45 AM
If you don't know the difference between offering advice and being a jerk then I don't know what to tell you. As I've stated, the getting drunk and acting like a fool is one thing and I can accept that as foolish behavior but common. When I heard that he exposed his genitals, it took it to another level for me. If he didn't do that, then fine. But if he did, that's the issue that will be hard to explain to an 8 year old if he finds out about it. And makes this a much more serious situation.

Again, if you signed up (aka impregnated a woman) to be a parent and think explaining a low level criminal arrest to your son is hard then holy shit, there are some issues with you being a parent.

"Here's what he did. Here's why you shouldn't do that. People make mistakes, hopefully he can live the rest of his life as a abiding citizen and learn from this." Done. The best part is that I just came up with this and I'm not a parent.

Watch this. It will help with your parenting dilemma. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtJ_sDRRVVI

waggy
03-31-2016, 11:47 AM
I totally disagree. Besides, can you imagine other schools using that against us in recruiting?





I think it's okay to require players be held to a "higher standard". How that's quantified I'm not even sure, but I sure as hell wouldn't worry about negative recruiting if you really are looking for players of higher character. You have to be who you are.

I initially became a fan of X because of the higher character of their players compared to other schools.

AviatorX
03-31-2016, 11:50 AM
I think it's okay to require players be held to a "higher standard". How that's quantified I'm not even sure, but I sure as hell wouldn't worry about negative recruiting if you really are looking for players of higher character. You have to be who you are.

I initially became a fan of X because of the higher character of their players compared to other schools.

How can you judge this though, unless you know a lot of college basketball players personally? We don't really know what anyone is like, and they could be completely different off the court than they seem on the court.

waggy
03-31-2016, 11:52 AM
Not getting arrested is a start.

SkyWalker
03-31-2016, 11:52 AM
Only worry is how awful Xavier has been at handling these situations for the past 10 years or so. Hopefully this is dealt with sensibly

I sure hope JP doesn't have to go to Maryland.

LA Muskie
03-31-2016, 11:54 AM
He literally did none of those things.

This is what he signed up to do/follow: http://www.nationalletter.org/nliProvisions/index.html

I don't see this as all that big a deal. He's a drunk college kid who got caught doing the type of dumbass thing that drunk college kids do. But he got caught. It happens.

That said, you don't think he also signed up to abide by the Xavier Student Code of Conduct or...the law??? You can't possibly believe the only thing he agreed to abide by is his NLI.

SemajParlor
03-31-2016, 11:55 AM
JP has been sentenced to a Reflections session.

waggy
03-31-2016, 11:56 AM
I don't see this as all that big a deal. He's a drunk college kid who got caught doing the type of dumbass thing that drunk college kids do. But he got caught. It happens.

That said, you don't think he also signed up to abide by the Xavier Student Code of Conduct or...the law??? You can't possibly believe the only thing he agreed to abide by is his NLI.


There are many total fanboys on this site.

I give you father sham..

GoMuskies
03-31-2016, 11:56 AM
JP has been sentenced to a Reflections session.

I assume it will be at 5am. While running stairs.

Cheesehead
03-31-2016, 11:57 AM
I hope they have him put his jersey on so they can physically remove it first.

reps!

LA Muskie
03-31-2016, 11:59 AM
Not sure how germane this is to the conversation, but this is what I tell my very impressionable 13-year-old son: When you as a fan wear a Xavier t-shirt out and about, whether you like it or not, you are in a way representing the brand that is Xavier University. Obviously the same applies exponentially when you wear the uniform. IMHO a version of this message needs to be sent to JP and it should be as public as the University can make it.

I like that. But I would remove "the brand that is". A brand is commercial. Our reputation transcends just its commercial aspects.

xeus
03-31-2016, 12:00 PM
I think it's okay to require players be held to a "higher standard". How that's quantified I'm not even sure, but I sure as hell wouldn't worry about negative recruiting if you really are looking for players of higher character. You have to be who you are.

I initially became a fan of X because of the higher character of their players compared to other schools.

Yes, we have high standards and expectations for our program. It's not because it's a Catholic university. Your boy mohr wants him expelled because we are a Catholic school, although he did admit later "that seems a little steep."

drudy23
03-31-2016, 12:01 PM
He seems to be enjoying himself in the mugshot. Maybe he never pulled them up.

waggy
03-31-2016, 12:01 PM
Mohr's not my boy Xeus.

bobbiemcgee
03-31-2016, 12:01 PM
if you got arrested for drunken mooning in the sixties, my buddies and I would all be doing life.

LA Muskie
03-31-2016, 12:01 PM
No, he's charged with a misdemeanor of the 2nd degree and 4th degree. Assuming he has little to no record, he will get diversion or probation. He can face up to a total of 120 days in jail (90 +30 on the two chrages), but will not see a day of it.

Well, he's seeing at least 12 hrs of it...

drudy23
03-31-2016, 12:03 PM
a

muskieindent
03-31-2016, 12:04 PM
Sounds like his attitude on the court carries over to off the court.

drudy23
03-31-2016, 12:05 PM
If you don't know the difference between offering advice and being a jerk then I don't know what to tell you. As I've stated, the getting drunk and acting like a fool is one thing and I can accept that as foolish behavior but common. When I heard that he exposed his genitals, it took it to another level for me. If he didn't do that, then fine. But if he did, that's the issue that will be hard to explain to an 8 year old if he finds out about it. And makes this a much more serious situation.

No one ever said parenting was going to be easy...I'm pretty sure we'll all get through this one though.

LA Muskie
03-31-2016, 12:05 PM
I think it's okay to require players be held to a "higher standard". How that's quantified I'm not even sure, but I sure as hell wouldn't worry about negative recruiting if you really are looking for players of higher character. You have to be who you are.

I initially became a fan of X because of the higher character of their players compared to other schools.

I agree 100% that having a higher standard is laudable. To be clear, it is done at many other successful schools. And frankly it's always been my impression that we do hold ourselves to a higher standard.

drudy23
03-31-2016, 12:06 PM
This was laugh out loud funny

Indeed.

LA Muskie
03-31-2016, 12:09 PM
I think it's funny that some folks think he may have been "mooning" people. It's not the 50's anymore. There is no chance he "mooned" anyone. He either exposed himself or just dropped his pants. I'm hoping for the latter. But there's a reasonable probability that he did the former and it's not in the police report because they had pity on him.


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mohr5150
03-31-2016, 12:09 PM
I totally disagree. Besides, can you imagine other schools using that against us in recruiting?



I can explain that - it stems from when you neg repped me and called me a dick for explaining NFL rules.



I posted a helpful parenting article for you. You're welcome.

And I never commented on your assistance in a negative way, nor did I watch your recommended video. Maybe I will now, but due to your attitude toward me will assume it is some sort of joke.

I just want to make sure I have the reasons for your attitude toward me straight. Three months after it happened, you continue to act in a negatively aggressive way toward me due to your inability to react in a polite way about the difference between reading rules in a book and hearing the words of a former rules enforcer and not liking the negative response to your negativity. Okay. Hold grudges much? Before you just mentioned it, I completely forgot about that situation happening with you. I am so sorry if the use of "dick" offended you. I will try much harder to keep it more classy, especially with you. If the negative rep is what hurt your feelings, well, you got me back with your own negative rep. I see that as getting even, so I'm willing to bury the hatchet and move on to more constructive conversations. Let me know when your feelings are healed enough to reach that state.

xubrew
03-31-2016, 12:10 PM
I agree 100% that having a higher standard is laudable. To be clear, it is done at many other successful schools. And frankly it's always been my impression that we do hold ourselves to a higher standard.

True, but there are also many people at many other schools who when they hear something like this think "Oh, that's not so bad." Standards are different at different places, I guess.

drudy23
03-31-2016, 12:10 PM
And I never commented on your assistance in a negative way, nor did I watch your recommended video. Maybe I will now, but due to your attitude toward me will assume it is some sort of joke.

I just want to make sure I have the reasons for your attitude toward me straight. Three months after it happened, you continue to act in a negatively aggressive way toward me due to your inability to react in a polite way about the difference between reading rules in a book and hearing the words of a former rules enforcer and not liking the negative response to your negativity. Okay. Hold grudges much? Before you just mentioned it, I completely forgot about that situation happening with you. I am so sorry if the use of "dick" offended you. I will try much harder to keep it more classy, especially with you. If the negative rep is what hurt your feelings, well, you got me back with your own negative rep. I see that as getting even, so I'm willing to bury the hatchet and move on to more constructive conversations. Let me know when your feelings are healed enough to reach that state.

Can we get back to making fun of JP?

muskiefan82
03-31-2016, 12:11 PM
So, he was drunk, somebody probably asked him if he really had steel balls, he couldn't remember, so he looked.

Chermy23
03-31-2016, 12:12 PM
I agree, lets get back to JP PLEASE

xubrew
03-31-2016, 12:20 PM
So, he was drunk, somebody probably asked him if he really had steel balls, he couldn't remember, so he looked.

I think this is what happened. Could have happened to anyone.

THRILLHOUSE
03-31-2016, 12:24 PM
Did JP yell out "F-ck this white bar!!!" as he was being escorted out by the police?

paulxu
03-31-2016, 12:26 PM
This thread set the record for "fastest to 4 pages." And that's quite an accomplishment given some of the thread on here in the past.

Meanwhile, get ready for Pants on the Ground being played when we visit Butler.

NY44
03-31-2016, 12:27 PM
Just get JP to go through this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9k6Mf-FfXQ) and all is forgiven. Cool with you guys?

bobbiemcgee
03-31-2016, 12:30 PM
The judge graduated from the Mount, so he should be used to this type of behavior from X students. I suspect JP will get some pre-trial divergence BS program over the summer a la Crawford.

94GRAD
03-31-2016, 12:32 PM
YIKES!!! It is a long fall from atop that high horse on top of your soapbox!!!

bjf123
03-31-2016, 12:32 PM
Sounds like his attitude on the court carries over to off the court.

Yep. If you detail what happened without a name, and then ask us to pick which player did it, I think most of us would go with JP.

At the end of the day, it's still a 20 year old college kid being stupid. It probably happens to someone at X or UC on a fairly routine basis. It just never makes the news.

LA Muskie
03-31-2016, 12:38 PM
True, but there are also many people at many other schools who when they hear something like this think "Oh, that's not so bad." Standards are different at different places, I guess.

I don't think it's all that bad even as an XU alum who believes in elevated standards. It was a dumb, foolish, drunken mistake. That didn't hurt another soul (nor could it have). As far as crimes go, this is about as petty as they come. Because he ALSO has to answer to Mack and the administration, he will pay far more for this "crime" than just about anyone else under similar circumstances would.

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 12:51 PM
I don't think it's all that bad even as an XU alum who believes in elevated standards. It was a dumb, foolish, drunken mistake. That didn't hurt another soul (nor could it have). As far as crimes go, this is about as petty as they come. Because he ALSO has to answer to Mack and the administration, he will pay far more for this "crime" than just about anyone else under similar circumstances would.

agree here, just a dumb drunk college mistake, didnt hurt anyone.

casualfan
03-31-2016, 12:52 PM
This was actually my first thought. Why didn't they just throw him out?? If for no other reason than if you work at this bar, you just want to be done with it and get back to work. Calling the cops takes a lot more time and effort than just shoving him out the door.

People typically call the cops when there is a persistent issue...

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 12:52 PM
This thread set the record for "fastest to 4 pages." And that's quite an accomplishment given some of the thread on here in the past.

Meanwhile, get ready for Pants on the Ground being played when we visit Butler.

i was thinking the same thing haha. this thread exploded as soon as it was posted

Juice
03-31-2016, 12:58 PM
The judge graduated from the Mount, so he should be used to this type of behavior from X students. I suspect JP will get some pre-trial divergence BS program over the summer a la Crawford.

The judge is very fair. He will give the appropriate sentence if he doesn't qualify or chooses not to do diversion.

Xville
03-31-2016, 01:00 PM
People typically call the cops when there is a persistent issue...

Maybe...or there were cops hanging outside the doors. When I was in my early twenties and stupid, I noticed there were almost always cops hanging outside bars in the wee hours of the morning just in case. I should know because I told most of them to go find something more productive to do than sitting outside a bar when they would get an attitude. I used more colorful language than that, but anyways...

paulxu
03-31-2016, 01:05 PM
There's only one thing left for JP to do...declare for the draft.

xubrew
03-31-2016, 01:11 PM
I don't think it's all that bad even as an XU alum who believes in elevated standards. It was a dumb, foolish, drunken mistake. That didn't hurt another soul (nor could it have). As far as crimes go, this is about as petty as they come. Because he ALSO has to answer to Mack and the administration, he will pay far more for this "crime" than just about anyone else under similar circumstances would.

This is pretty much exactly where I am with it. I just can't be that upset about this. Now, to be fair, it's not my problem to deal with either, but still.

GuyFawkes38
03-31-2016, 01:16 PM
This is just awesome.

XUFan09
03-31-2016, 01:17 PM
I just find it funny. College is full of drunk dumbasses, some of whom get caught.

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X-band '01
03-31-2016, 01:20 PM
Apparently Butler's messageboard has now crashed thanks to Myles Fox Morrissey.

Anyone want to bet on how many opposing gyms play the Shame Bell from Game of Thrones next season?

ArizonaXUGrad
03-31-2016, 01:24 PM
Wow, people are being kind of crazy about this. This is a wait and see kind of thing. He definitely got hammered, underage, and acting up. He does not have an exposure charge on there.

This will probably be handled internally.

As far as kids go, this is a perfect opportunity to teach two things. 1 - you are a fan of a school or attended that school, but the schools actions or player's actions have no reflection on you. It's plenty alright to be a fan of a school and accept that the school or players did something wrong. 2 - everyone is human and thus makes mistakes like humans do and its best to learn from said mistakes.

ArizonaXUGrad
03-31-2016, 01:25 PM
You may resume craziness.

GIMMFD
03-31-2016, 01:25 PM
I've done some stupid stuff, but I haven't dropped my pants in a bar.. at least not that I can remember. Nothing to see here, he'll be disciplined by Mack and the administration accordingly, and hopefully he learns from his mistake. It's funny for us because we aren't involved, but man this kind of sucks for him. I'm sure fans next year are going to have a field day with this one. I mean come on, who didn't have a fake ID in college?

TUclutch
03-31-2016, 01:37 PM
I've learned 2 things in this thread.

1. JP isn't that different from many of us in college in terms of getting drunk and doing something stupid. Some of us were just lucky to not get caught. Being an athlete does not mean he should be held to a higher standard than some kid in a random physics class.
2. Mohr might be Chris Carpenter in disguise because i never thought someone other than Chris Carpenter could get their panties in this big a wad about explaining something to a kid. For christ's sake its not difficult at all.

X-man
03-31-2016, 01:39 PM
Sounds like his attitude on the court carries over to off the court.

Let's hope it doesn't carry over in the court.

drudy23
03-31-2016, 01:39 PM
He's probably running steps and throwing up as we speak.

drudy23
03-31-2016, 01:41 PM
BTW...how drunk do you have to be to hand your fake ID to the cops? C'mon JP.

Juice
03-31-2016, 01:46 PM
BTW...how drunk do you have to be to hand your fake ID to the cops? C'mon JP.

People do it all the time, especially when that person is drunk and hoping to pass himself off as a 21 year old and of legal drinking age.

MFM
03-31-2016, 01:49 PM
BTW...how drunk do you have to be to hand your fake ID to the cops? C'mon JP.

He turned it over like Edmond Sumner.

SemajParlor
03-31-2016, 01:49 PM
BTW...how drunk do you have to be to hand your fake ID to the cops? C'mon JP.

Especially when there is a legitimate chance the cops know who you are haha.

Reminds me of a classic story: Uconn's AJ Price and Marcus Williams tried to sell stolen laptops to a pawn shop. When the police interviewed the store employees and asked them how they could be so sure it was them they responded "Uhhh... because it's AJ Price and Marcus Williams."

drudy23
03-31-2016, 01:50 PM
#McLovin

kellernr
03-31-2016, 01:54 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160331/a7459519723498352a7ee0bb50da914d.jpg

Back to court may 3rd

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GuyFawkes38
03-31-2016, 01:56 PM
Might be a good idea to have Bill Murray talk to Macura about this. Set him straight.

AviatorX
03-31-2016, 01:59 PM
Especially when there is a legitimate chance the cops know who you are haha.

Reminds me of a classic story: Uconn's AJ Price and Marcus Williams tried to sell stolen laptops to a pawn shop. When the police interviewed the store employees and asked them how they could be so sure it was them they responded "Uhhh... because it's AJ Price and Marcus Williams."

Kind of like Yogi Ferrell, the most recognizable guy in Bloomington, using a fake ID his sophomore year at the biggest student bar during Little 500.

STL_XUfan
03-31-2016, 01:59 PM
Did JP yell out "F-ck this white bar!!!" as he was being escorted out by the police?

It was "Fuck this white club". Let's show a little respect to one of the greatest quotes of all time.

Also, JP has to be referred to as JP "the Fox" Macura from now on, right?

THRILLHOUSE
03-31-2016, 02:03 PM
It was "Fuck this white club". Let's show a little respect to one of the greatest quotes of all time.

Also, JP has to be referred to as JP "the Fox" Macura from now on, right?

Yes, I know it was "white club", but edited in this case since RP's isn't a club.

JohnW22
03-31-2016, 02:04 PM
He turned it over like Edmond Sumner.

Seriously? That's the best you could come up with? You got a story like this and that's the best you came up with???:thumbsdown:

Muskie
03-31-2016, 02:10 PM
It was "Fuck this white club". Let's show a little respect to one of the greatest quotes of all time.

Also, JP has to be referred to as JP "the Fox" Macura from now on, right?

What does the Fox say?

Muskie
03-31-2016, 02:10 PM
Seriously? That's the best you could come up with? You got a story like this and that's the best you came up with???:thumbsdown:

You leave Myles alone. He's lost his fanny pack and needs it back.

Muncie
03-31-2016, 02:12 PM
People typically call the cops when there is a persistent issue...

I owned a bar for 38 years, a college bar; we never called the cops ...we would of just asked him to leave and if that didn't work thrown him out. Problem solved.

bobbiemcgee
03-31-2016, 02:21 PM
Just checked my phony ID. Sez I'm 71. Guess it's time to throw it out. There were no pictures then.

nuts4xu
03-31-2016, 02:50 PM
I owned a bar for 38 years, a college bar; we never called the cops ...we would of just asked him to leave and if that didn't work thrown him out. Problem solved.

I am curious to know why JP (or his friends) didn't leave the bar when his pants came down? If it was my buddy, and he was this hammered, I would drag him out of there before he gets us all in trouble. I certainly don't hang around long enough for cops to be called, and get there.

And do we know if he just showed his ass, or did he pull out his middle leg and twirl it like Pete Townsend playing a guitar solo? Not that I want that image in my mind, but it does seem like a big difference.

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 03:03 PM
I am curious to know why JP (or his friends) didn't leave the bar when his pants came down? If it was my buddy, and he was this hammered, I would drag him out of there before he gets us all in trouble. I certainly don't hang around long enough for cops to be called, and get there.

And do we know if he just showed his ass, or did he pull out his middle leg and twirl it like Pete Townsend playing a guitar solo? Not that I want that image in my mind, but it does seem like a big difference.

looks like "anonymousxavierstudent1" just responded to this post then deleted it

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 03:05 PM
looks like "anonymousxavierstudent1" just responded to this post then deleted it

also looks like he was immediately banned

X-band '01
03-31-2016, 03:06 PM
Or it was deleted along with the banishment of said poster. Muskie and Xeus are probably on a 24-hour watch right now.

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 03:07 PM
Or it was deleted along with the banishment of said poster. Muskie and Xeus are probably on a 24-hour watch right now.

didnt seem like it was just an anonymous xavier student anyways

xeus
03-31-2016, 03:09 PM
We have a pretty long-standing policy of not permitting rumors regarding Xavier student athletes. AXP1 was not getting that message.

muskiefan82
03-31-2016, 03:13 PM
Also, JP has to be referred to as JP "the Fox" Macura from now on, right?

Junk Patrol? Jostling Peter?

smileyy
03-31-2016, 03:22 PM
People do it all the time, especially when that person is drunk and hoping to pass himself off as a 21 year old and of legal drinking age.

Don't all the IDs have barcodes on them now? Or are the barcodes also easily spoofed?

Juice
03-31-2016, 03:23 PM
Don't all the IDs have barcodes on them now? Or are the barcodes also easily spoofed?

Yeah but officers can't run these when you hand it to them. They can take them back to their vehicles and run it all but not when they're just standing there.

ServiceUnavailable
03-31-2016, 03:23 PM
Get the fuck out, Macura. You are my 8 year old's favorite player. How am I supposed to explain this shit to him? I say see you later. Fucking dumbass.

Blame Canada!

XMuskieFTW
03-31-2016, 03:24 PM
Don't all the IDs have barcodes on them now? Or are the barcodes also easily spoofed?

They can be scanned, but I've never been to a bar that scans them. Only the casino really uses that I feel like.

toledodan
03-31-2016, 03:32 PM
I've learned 2 things in this thread.

1. JP isn't that different from many of us in college in terms of getting drunk and doing something stupid. Some of us were just lucky to not get caught. Being an athlete does not mean he should be held to a higher standard than some kid in a random physics class.
2. Mohr might be Chris Carpenter in disguise because i never thought someone other than Chris Carpenter could get their panties in this big a wad about explaining something to a kid. For christ's sake its not difficult at all.

it's actually easy to explain to your kids. hey kids don't drink and if you do wait till you're of legal age. even a person of JP's fame is subject to being punished. should be an easy talk with kids

SemajParlor
03-31-2016, 03:33 PM
This is not a rumor - but it wasn't a fake ID. A simple google search would verify.

nuts4xu
03-31-2016, 03:42 PM
This is not a rumor - but it wasn't a fake ID. A simple google search would verify.

I don't understand what you mean. He is charged with obstruction of justice, for handing the police a fake ID. The ID may have been for a real person (in this case a peer of JP's) but the ID did not have JP's accurate name, nor personal information. Is this what you are getting at? The fact the ID was for a real person?

XUFan09
03-31-2016, 03:45 PM
I don't understand what you mean. He is charged with obstruction of justice, for handing the police a fake ID. The ID may have been for a real person (in this case a peer of JP's) but the ID did not have JP's accurate name, nor personal information. Is this what you are getting at? The fact the ID was for a real person?
Sounds like that's what he's getting at. Isn't that just the same difference, legally speaking? The only added thing might be the original owner getting in trouble too.

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SemajParlor
03-31-2016, 03:46 PM
I don't understand what you mean. He is charged with obstruction of justice, for handing the police a fake ID. The ID may have been for a real person (in this case a peer of JP's) but the ID did not have JP's accurate name, nor personal information. Is this what you are getting at? The fact the ID was for a real person?

Yep. This was in response to people asking about spoofing bar codes, etc.

Juice
03-31-2016, 03:47 PM
This is not a rumor - but it wasn't a fake ID. A simple google search would verify.

True, it's a real ID but that's not important when it comes to the charge of Obstructing of Official Business.


(A) No person, without privilege to do so and with purpose to prevent, obstruct, or delay the performance by a public official of any authorized act within the public official's official capacity, shall do any act that hampers or impedes a public official in the performance of the public official's lawful duties.

Whether you hand an officer a fake ID or the ID of someone else it prevents, obstructs, or delays the performance of the officers in learning the person's identity.

SemajParlor
03-31-2016, 03:48 PM
I know, was just adding to the conversation about fake ID's with fake bar codes.

deepX
03-31-2016, 03:51 PM
I was just very happy to hear that there WAS alcohol involved!
Likely a whole other set of issues if you are dropping you pants in public and not really, really drunk.

deepX

Perma Fro
03-31-2016, 03:58 PM
GOD DAMNIT! I hate the offseason.

X-ceptional
03-31-2016, 03:58 PM
Damn, all the good comments have already been taken!

X-ceptional
03-31-2016, 03:59 PM
But yea, I guess the "M.F." in J.P.M.F. Macura carries a little extra weight now...

XUFan09
03-31-2016, 03:59 PM
GOD DAMNIT! I hate the offseason.
I don't know...This is one of the more entertaining offseason stories I've seen in years.

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XMuskieFTW
03-31-2016, 04:09 PM
JP was going to be a legend by the end of his Xavier career based on his play. He just got to legendary status a bit quicker than expected.

xu82
03-31-2016, 04:33 PM
First, I'd like to personally thank JP for pushing the X vs Wisconsin thread into oblivion. I hated that thing!

Second, my son got arrested at college for underage possession of beer and a fake ID. The beer was no biggie, but the fake ID was called identity theft and was a serious (and expensive) felony style hassle to deal with. (This must be different in some way). And this was the "good" son. To hear the exploits of the "other" son, you'll have to buy the book. Or, you can wait for the movie to come out. Thank God they were both just young and stupid and the frontal lobe eventually comes together. Life is much better now.

This should be dealt with internally (NOT publicly as some have stated) and JP will have to clean up his own puke on the steps.

slysyl
03-31-2016, 04:57 PM
I think JP just earned the nick name MOON; and let's all laugh and maybe be thank full we didn't get caught doing something stupid when we were in school.

Masterofreality
03-31-2016, 04:57 PM
I had a fake ID with my own name on it that had an "adjusted" birthday. It was discovered and confiscated at the old Pickle Barrel in Clifton....of course a bar near SucKS would do that to a Xavier kid.

Wow, a college kid busted for underage drinking and mooning someone. Sounds like every Saturday in the 20th and 21st Century.

An amazing non-story but hilarious how Borecat fans are trying to spin this into the "XU Thugs" storyline.

X Factor
03-31-2016, 05:04 PM
An amazing non-story but hilarious how Borecat fans are trying to spin this into the "XU Thugs" storyline.

You should check what Butler fans are saying...same "XU Thugs" angle.

xeus
03-31-2016, 05:05 PM
If Fr. Graham didn't reinforce the "take your clothes off in public" theme at every home game this may have never happened.

I think JP is the victim here. He is the victim of a pervasive culture on campus, perpetuated by none other than the University President and his insatiable desire to disrobe to the cheers of the student section. And now a young man is paying the price for this nonsense. THIS. STOPS. NOW.

paulxu
03-31-2016, 05:13 PM
Exactly. Someone was no doubt in his safe space.

Maybe the cop.

Masterofreality
03-31-2016, 05:14 PM
Myles Fox Morrissey is a real guy - plays on Xavier's golf team.

Of course he is... and does.

Just goes to show you how much "fun" us Golf Team guys are!!!

XUFan09
03-31-2016, 05:29 PM
If Fr. Graham didn't reinforce the "take your clothes off in public" theme at every home game this may have never happened.

I think JP is the victim here. He is the victim of a pervasive culture on campus, perpetuated by none other than the University President and his insatiable desire to disrobe to the cheers of the student section. And now a young man is paying the price for this nonsense. THIS. STOPS. NOW.
#1 post in the thread.

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Olsingledigit
03-31-2016, 05:38 PM
I think JP just earned the nick name MOON; and let's all laugh and maybe be thank full we didn't get caught doing something stupid when we were in school.
Operative words "didn't get caught"

bjf123
03-31-2016, 05:43 PM
Of course he is... and does.

Just goes to show you how much "fun" us Golf Team guys are!!!

I was a golf team guy back in the day. On one of the few out of town trips I made, the other guys went out drinking the night before the match. They came back in late and a little drunk. They thought I was sleeping so I ignored them. They thought it would be funny to cover my apparently sleeping head with shaving cream. Good times. Don't remember if we won or not.

If he really was using the legit ID of a guy on the golf team, there are two scholarship athletes who'll be getting a nice lecture on personal responsibility and behavior.

94GRAD
03-31-2016, 05:58 PM
Cannot confirm nor deny this was J.P.s cellmate last night


2044

Xpectations
03-31-2016, 05:59 PM
Cannot confirm nor deny this was J.P.s cellmate last night


2044

I was just asking myself, "Whatever happened to Dontonio Wingfield?"

LA Muskie
03-31-2016, 06:05 PM
I had a fake ID with my own name on it that had an "adjusted" birthday. It was discovered and confiscated at the old Pickle Barrel in Clifton....of course a bar near SucKS would do that to a Xavier kid.

Wow, a college kid busted for underage drinking and mooning someone. Sounds like every Saturday in the 20th and 21st Century.

An amazing non-story but hilarious how Borecat fans are trying to spin this into the "XU Thugs" storyline.
During freshman year, I may or may not have driven to a flea market in Indiana with my friends, where we may or may not have purchased "For Entertainment Only" fake IDs that we couldn't ever take out of our wallets because they said "For Entertainment Only" in big letters on the back. We may or may not have used those IDs without incident for 2+ years in about 10 different states.

The moral of the story, which may or may not have been true? Know your bar/liquor store BEFORE you use your Fake ID. There are plenty of places willing to serve/sell to you as long as you give them ANY basis to justify your age. Screw the others.

Also, keep your pants on until you get home...

toledodan
03-31-2016, 06:12 PM
You should check what Butler fans are saying...same "XU Thugs" angle.

butler fans still pissed that air JP dunked on their asses. butler is the new dayton. how many times have we beat them over the last few years?

PM Thor
03-31-2016, 06:20 PM
Hell, I went to X with a guy who would dress as a priest and buy liquor....it was so completely wrong, and worked every single time.(I do not condone nor do I confirm that these happened....)

94GRAD
03-31-2016, 06:21 PM
#RaiseYourSword

X Factor
03-31-2016, 06:26 PM
#RaiseYourSword

Public reps!! :lmao:

schmidy43
03-31-2016, 06:32 PM
Don't know if anyone else has brought this up at all. But to answer all the questions about why they'd call the cops, the last time I went to RP McMurphy's they had a cop posted up outside the whole time.

vee4xu
03-31-2016, 06:50 PM
Athlete or not, the following equation applies to all:

Drinking excessively + being underage in a bar = very stupid decisions

Sometimes we get caught. Sometimes we don't. JP got caught.

Moral of the story: Young kids with who drink tons of booze may drop trou in a bar. :drinks2:

xubrew
03-31-2016, 06:51 PM
Hell, I went to X with a guy who would dress as a priest and buy liquor....it was so completely wrong, and worked every single time.(I do not condone nor do I confirm that these happened....)

This is the most brilliant and innovative tactic I have ever heard!

If you at least confirm it, then I will definitely condone it. That is brilliant!!!

vee4xu
03-31-2016, 06:52 PM
butler fans still pissed that air JP dunked on their asses. butler is the new dayton. how many times have we beat them over the last few years?

Butler should stick their sanctimonious garbage up their tight asses. They should worry more about becoming the Fordham of the BE than worrying about what JP's doing.

vee4xu
03-31-2016, 06:55 PM
Please tell me you're joking.

I thought exactly the same thing.

xubrew
03-31-2016, 07:07 PM
What if someone dared him to do it??

I know we have some lawyers on here. Is "he dared me to" a legitimate legal defense?

X-man
03-31-2016, 07:14 PM
I had a fake ID with my own name on it that had an "adjusted" birthday. It was discovered and confiscated at the old Pickle Barrel in Clifton....of course a bar near SucKS would do that to a Xavier kid.

Wow, a college kid busted for underage drinking and mooning someone. Sounds like every Saturday in the 20th and 21st Century.

An amazing non-story but hilarious how Borecat fans are trying to spin this into the "XU Thugs" storyline.
Times have changed since I was in school in the '60's. After a summer in the Hamptons (New York's legal drinking age was 18 at the time) in 1965, I arrived in Burlington, Vt. to begin my college life at the University of Vermont. Of course we went to a bar that first week. When I was asked for ID, I produced my actual driver's license showing clearly that I was 18. Vermont of course had a legal drinking age of 21. The guy checking my ID responded as follows: "I will let you in this time, but bring better ID the next time you come here". Ah those were the days.

xu82
03-31-2016, 07:19 PM
#RaiseYourSword

Put the damn sword away! That keeps ending badly (or in Maryland).

LA Muskie
03-31-2016, 07:22 PM
What if someone dared him to do it??

I know we have some lawyers on here. Is "he dared me to" a legitimate legal defense?
Not a regular dare. Only a triple dog dare.

xu82
03-31-2016, 07:27 PM
Not a regular dare. Only a triple dog dare.

Are you going to bill us for that?

Nigel Tufnel
03-31-2016, 07:28 PM
Got a text from a close friend (and XU alum). He talked to someone who was at the bar last night and witnessed the incident.....if what he was told is accurate, I think everyone needs to hold off and wait for the facts to come out. Specifically, JP wasn't drunk and his pants didn't even go down past his boxers. My buddy was told JP got a raw deal by getting arrested...and as a previous post said, the cops weren't called. There was one working there last night.

xeus
03-31-2016, 07:33 PM
Got a text from a close friend (and XU alum). He talked to someone who was at the bar last night and witnessed the incident.....if what he was told is accurate, I think everyone needs to hold off and wait for the facts to come out. Specifically, JP wasn't drunk and his pants didn't even go down past his boxers. My buddy was told JP got a raw deal by getting arrested...and as a previous post said, the cops weren't called. There was one working there last night.

It's been my assumption (and my hope) that that is what happened. There's a reason he was charged with disorderly conduct and not indecent exposure. The fake id is another issue though, and, legally, the more serious one.

xu82
03-31-2016, 07:33 PM
The cop went to Butler?

xu82
03-31-2016, 07:37 PM
It's been my assumption (and my hope) that that is what happened. There's a reason he was charged with disorderly conduct and not indecent exposure. The fake id is another issue though, and, legally, the more serious one.

My son can attest to that, but still not a huge deal. Expensive and annoying, but not a huge deal.

TUclutch
03-31-2016, 07:42 PM
Got a text from a close friend (and XU alum). He talked to someone who was at the bar last night and witnessed the incident.....if what he was told is accurate, I think everyone needs to hold off and wait for the facts to come out. Specifically, JP wasn't drunk and his pants didn't even go down past his boxers. My buddy was told JP got a raw deal by getting arrested...and as a previous post said, the cops weren't called. There was one working there last night.

Idk if he was drunk or not. His photo showed his eyes to be extremely bloodshot though. Take that for what it's worth

THRILLHOUSE
03-31-2016, 07:44 PM
Rick Broering ‏@RickBroering 3m3 minutes ago
I can confirm the police report from the Macura incident states "arrestee pulled down his pants exposing his buttock."

Nigel Tufnel
03-31-2016, 07:46 PM
Rick Broering ‏@RickBroering 3m3 minutes ago
I can confirm the police report from the Macura incident states "arrestee pulled down his pants exposing his buttock."

That's better than exposing his gentalia....right?

paulxu
03-31-2016, 07:49 PM
Just one buttock? Half moon rising?

xu82
03-31-2016, 07:49 PM
That's better than exposing his gentalia....right?

Better a little drunk and silly than super creepy. That's my legal analysis.

paulxu
03-31-2016, 07:52 PM
Hell, I went to X with a guy who would dress as a priest and buy liquor....it was so completely wrong, and worked every single time.(I do not condone nor do I confirm that these happened....)

You went to school with Guido?

http://macaronijournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/sarduccisfc_zpscb64a343.jpg

XUhockey99
03-31-2016, 07:54 PM
hope everyone can find this as funny as i do... 2045

xeus
03-31-2016, 07:54 PM
Rick Broering ‏@RickBroering 3m3 minutes ago
I can confirm the police report from the Macura incident states "arrestee pulled down his pants exposing his buttock."

Funny, because that is NOT on the complaint filed by the police with the Court. All that says is "Arrested did knowingly pull his pants down in a bar to wit: RP McMurphy's where several people were present and witness behavior"