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Muncie
03-29-2016, 05:16 PM
Has anyone else heard about a rumor that we may be getting a transfer from New Mexico and if so Larry will be leaving ?

Muncie
03-29-2016, 05:20 PM
http://www.bannersontheparkway.com/2016/3/28/11317764/xavier-linked-to-new-mexico-grad-transfer-cullen-neal

GoMuskies
03-29-2016, 05:23 PM
I would think Jalen departing would make more sense.

X-band '01
03-29-2016, 05:23 PM
New Blood Thread (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?31004-New-Blood/page2&highlight=Neal+Mexico)

Should appear on page 2 (or page 5 if you limit your posts to 10 per page).

Muncie
03-29-2016, 05:27 PM
Thanks X Band I missed that ....he looks interesting

xufan2020
03-29-2016, 05:31 PM
Is he athletic?

GoMuskies
03-29-2016, 05:32 PM
Is he athletic?

No, he's white, so he's heady, gritty and cunning.

Muncie
03-29-2016, 05:44 PM
Would Cullen have to sit out a year? If not why not?

paulxu
03-29-2016, 05:45 PM
No, he's white, so he's heady, gritty and cunning.

Can our team handle 2 JP's at once?

Xville
03-29-2016, 05:59 PM
He is athletic and would be an upgrade over Lj at backup pg or maybe could start at the two while splitting pg duties with sumner. Not a good shooter, but we have enough of those. I want him....may force laj out in a way but it is what it is. The team needs to get better to get to their goals.

SemajParlor
03-29-2016, 06:08 PM
Would Cullen have to sit out a year? If not why not?

Looked him up. Really strange situation. He's technically a Grad student transfer - so can play right away... However he graduated early so he still has 2 years left.

Another fine example of the ever consistent NCAA.

Muncie
03-29-2016, 06:39 PM
Actually he is represented as a good deep ball shooter

JTG
03-29-2016, 06:48 PM
Looked him up. Really strange situation. He's technically a Grad student transfer - so can play right away... However he graduated early so he still has 2 years left.

Another fine example of the ever consistent NCAA.

So he can play 2 years ?, never heard of that type situation, I thought all grad transfers were 1 year deals.

joe titan
03-29-2016, 06:52 PM
Looked him up. Really strange situation. He's technically a Grad student transfer - so can play right away... However he graduated early so he still has 2 years left.

Another fine example of the ever consistent NCAA.

at least here NCAA is not at fault' nothing in grad transfer rule limits amount of remaining eligibility; Cullen completed undergrad in 3 years (while only playing 2). Purpose of grad transfer rule was to avoid punishing a grad so no compulsory wait year.

Muncie
03-29-2016, 07:15 PM
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/local_columns/in-making-death-threats-to-cullen-neal-lobo-fans-crossed/article_738059e4-b799-552f-823b-ffa3708086bf.html

SemajParlor
03-29-2016, 08:05 PM
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/opinion/local_columns/in-making-death-threats-to-cullen-neal-lobo-fans-crossed/article_738059e4-b799-552f-823b-ffa3708086bf.html

Ohhhh I heard about this. Did not know this was the same player.

xukeith
03-29-2016, 08:27 PM
Ohhhh I heard about this. Did not know this was the same player.

So according to this article, he doesn't take chances and is too by the books guy. I want a player that wants to take talent to next level and carry a team. Not a wall-flower who screams at his own mistakes.

LAJ or Reynolds is OUT.

Xville
03-29-2016, 08:40 PM
So according to this article, he doesn't take chances and is too by the books guy. I want a player that wants to take talent to next level and carry a team. Not a wall-flower who screams at his own mistakes.

LAJ or Reynolds is OUT.

That's not what I got from that article at all. He was weighed down a bit by the new Mexico fans and started to play that way, but that is not who he truly is. The more I learn about him, the more that I want him on our team. I think with the talent he would have around him, he would really blossom here. I like laj but even if no one else comes in, he is probably going to be the third pg anyways. If he has any desire to play, he is probably going to want to go somewhere else. I don't know anything, but to me it looks like the writing is on the wall unless the staff is going to redshirt goodin.

LA Muskie
03-29-2016, 08:42 PM
So according to this article, he doesn't take chances and is too by the books guy. I want a player that wants to take talent to next level and carry a team. Not a wall-flower who screams at his own mistakes.

THAT is the parting impression you took from the article???

xeus
03-29-2016, 08:45 PM
So according to this article, he doesn't take chances and is too by the books guy. I want a player that wants to take talent to next level and carry a team. Not a wall-flower who screams at his own mistakes.

Sounds like you would make a good New Mexico fan. Weird interpretation.

bobbiemcgee
03-29-2016, 09:12 PM
I would stick with LAJ over this guy. But In Mack We Trust.

drudy23
03-29-2016, 09:13 PM
No, he's white, so he's heady, gritty and cunning.

Wait...he has "deceptive" quickness.

XMuskieFTW
03-30-2016, 12:14 AM
I would stick with LAJ over this guy. But In Mack We Trust.

This. LAJ is still only a soph. I think he has a lot of room to grow still and could be a really solid backup PG. This could also be a move to safeguard us for 17-18 even if LAJ stays. If sumner leaves after next year the only ball handlers we have the following year would be LAJ and Quentin.

sirthought
03-30-2016, 03:07 AM
At 6'5", Neal has great height for a guard. If this happens I can see Coach Mack moving his personnel towards a Villanova-style multi-guard lineup.

He's a coach's son, who was bright enough to already graduate. Even with grad school he can likely focus on improving his skills.

Sounds like he's good, not great. But we don't know a lot about the other players on that NM team. With the way our team plays he might really fit that distributor/outside shooter sort of role, which is nice. Especially if Bluiett happens to jump into the professional ranks, we'll need more outside shooting.


Larry Austin will continue to improve and be a really good player—either at XU or elsewhere. He needs to improve everything, but mostly decision making. That happens with experience and maturity. Plus, I bet Larry is great in practice because he's a fast guy who handles the ball well and probably really challenges our starters in a good way.

Muncie
03-30-2016, 05:39 AM
I have a feeling Neal would be a Cintas crowd favorite . Once X fans know how he was mistreated by fans in NM I bet they would make an extra effort to show him support . And that alone could build his confidence and aggressiveness .

XUGRAD80
03-30-2016, 07:28 AM
the way the rule used to work was, you had 5 years to use up 4 years of eligibility. Didn't matter which level....undergrad or grad.....school you where in. Don't know if this is still true, but I haven't heard any different. The transfer part of the equation was allowing students to transfer upon the completion of the undergraduate degree, and not lose any eligibility. The purpose of this was to allow a student to complete their eligibility during graduate school, and not be locked into a graduate program they didn't want to be in. For example....a school offering a pre-law undergrad, but doesn't have a "law" school.

Of course, it didn't take college coaches long to see the loophole here which allows players to transfer for pretty much any graduate program that can be developed that is different than one offered at the previous school.

XUMIOH12
03-30-2016, 09:55 AM
Wait...he has "deceptive" quickness.

he has that "sneaky athleticism"

XUMIOH12
03-30-2016, 09:59 AM
I would stick with LAJ over this guy. But In Mack We Trust.

LAJ is in about the same situation that Brandon Randolph was in last year.

bleedXblue
03-30-2016, 10:14 AM
WTF. We need bigger, faster and more athletic. Use the scholly for someone else please. LAJ is just fine as a back up PG.

XMuskieFTW
03-30-2016, 10:19 AM
LAJ is in about the same situation that Brandon Randolph was in last year.

Not really sure about that. Randolph had lost his pt to LAJ and was looking at having 4 people in front of him who played the 1-2. Right now the only guys in front of LAJ at the 1-2 next year are myles and sumner.

nasdadjr
03-30-2016, 10:24 AM
LAJ is in about the same situation that Brandon Randolph was in last year.

Definitely not true. Randolph didn't play at all from about January on. I thought Larry Austin was under utilized this season but he did get minutes in every game and he is a much better ball handler than Cullen. We need LAJ way more than Cullen and I would be disappointed to see this go down. We don't need another scorer on this team we need a level headed PG who will run our offense and take care of the ball. LAJ gives us that

Chalmers0
03-30-2016, 10:25 AM
There sure has been a lot of posts and speculation in this thread for someone who has literally been linked to Xavier in one tweet and has scheduled a list of visits elsewhere....

XUMIOH12
03-30-2016, 10:28 AM
Not really sure about that. Randolph had lost his pt to LAJ and was looking at having 4 people in front of him who played the 1-2. Right now the only guys in front of LAJ at the 1-2 next year are myles and sumner.

I guess i should have said "could be in the same situation". We wont know at this point but he could potentially be behind Goodin and a possible transfer G as well.
But the point is that they have played 2 years, have similar games, and havent truly cracked the rotation. Randolph and Austin played the same minutes per game in their sophomore years.

XUMIOH12
03-30-2016, 10:29 AM
There sure has been a lot of posts and speculation in this thread for someone who has literally been linked to Xavier in one tweet and has scheduled a list of visits elsewhere....

thats true. At this point, he has scheduled visits to other places and not Xavier.

Xville
03-30-2016, 11:43 AM
WTF. We need bigger, faster and more athletic. Use the scholly for someone else please. LAJ is just fine as a back up PG.

So you say bigger, faster and more athletic...that is exactly what neal is compared to laj, then you say keep laj...interesting

markchal
03-30-2016, 11:45 AM
This is a lot of debate for someone who will be 8th/9th man for us.

XMuskieFTW
03-30-2016, 11:48 AM
This is a lot of debate for someone who will be 8th/9th man for us.

Welcome to the offseason!

XUFan09
03-30-2016, 02:24 PM
So you say bigger, faster and more athletic...that is exactly what neal is compared to laj, then you say keep laj...interesting
Is he? Bigger, sure, but LAJ is very quick and athletic.

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throwbackmuskie
03-30-2016, 03:10 PM
Rick Broering
‏@musketeerreport
Xavier offered Division II transfer Max Strus today. Strus is a 6-6 shooting guard from Lewis University (IL). Avg'd 20.2 pts and 8.4 rebs.




He put up 27 vs #1 Bellarmine.

XUMIOH12
03-30-2016, 03:22 PM
Rick Broering
‏@musketeerreport
Xavier offered Division II transfer Max Strus today. Strus is a 6-6 shooting guard from Lewis University (IL). Avg'd 20.2 pts and 8.4 rebs.




He put up 27 vs #1 Bellarmine.

not a big fan of D2 transfers

X-band '01
03-30-2016, 03:47 PM
Andrew Taylor thinks otherwise.

XMuskieFTW
03-30-2016, 03:47 PM
Rick Broering
‏@musketeerreport
Xavier offered Division II transfer Max Strus today. Strus is a 6-6 shooting guard from Lewis University (IL). Avg'd 20.2 pts and 8.4 rebs.

He put up 27 vs #1 Bellarmine.

These usually don't work out, but maybe we'll find the next Duncan Robinson. He averaged 17 and 6.5 in D3 before becoming a good player in his first year at Michigan. Gives me hope if we do go this route.

xufan2434
03-30-2016, 03:56 PM
These usually don't work out, but maybe we'll find the next Duncan Robinson. He averaged 17 and 6.5 in D3 before becoming a good player in his first year at Michigan. Gives me hope if we do go this route.

To be honest, the highlights I looked up, it's a poor man's version of JP. And yes, the kid can absolutely stroke it. Main negative I took away from watching what I saw (again only 3 minutes on youtube), was how long it takes him to get his shot off. I don't know if it would be quick enough at the D1 level, let alone in the big east. JP and even Redford for that matter got theirs off a lot quicker. But then again he is 6'6 so who knows

Muncie
03-30-2016, 04:05 PM
He looks like a 2 not a point which leads me to think Larry is not going anywhere .

XMuskieFTW
03-30-2016, 04:12 PM
I don't understand all the assumptions of Larry potentially leaving. He played 10 minutes a game last year and that isn't going to drop next year. If anything, it goes up. Larry seems like he really likes X and it seems like him and Sumner are really close. He just doesn't seem the type to go to some garbage mid major program just so he can play 25 minutes a game after sitting out a year. Also he's only a sophomore. He has a ton of time and room to grow.

mistabeecee41
03-30-2016, 04:16 PM
I don't understand all the assumptions of Larry potentially leaving. He played 10 minutes a game last year and that isn't going to drop next year. If anything, it goes up. Larry seems like he really likes X and it seems like him and Sumner are really close. He just doesn't seem the type to go to some garbage mid major program just so he can play 25 minutes a game after sitting out a year. Also he's only a sophomore. He has a ton of time and room to grow.

The reason is simple. His name rhymes with Schwintin' Puddin'

throwbackmuskie
03-30-2016, 04:19 PM
Larry understands his role and provided good minutes off the bench. Solid play who I hope stays


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XMuskieFTW
03-30-2016, 04:21 PM
The reason is simple. His name rhymes with Schwintin' Puddin'

Is he even a true PG though? From my understanding he's more of a slashing guard and Sloan played more PG for his high school team. We also have Remy's minutes to make up for so I would expect those to go to Quentin, not larry's

bleedXblue
03-30-2016, 04:26 PM
So you say bigger, faster and more athletic...that is exactly what neal is compared to laj, then you say keep laj...interesting

I'm saying we need more athleticism pretty much over our entire roster. This guy is more of the same......... save the scholly for someone else who can bring this team a dimension that we don't have today. Upgrading LAJ is not moving the needle all that much.

markchal
03-30-2016, 04:28 PM
If we offered...that means Jalen or someone is gone, right? Wouldn't we be full if Jalen returns?

xufan02
03-30-2016, 04:30 PM
We are full if Jalen returns.

XMuskieFTW
03-30-2016, 04:45 PM
If we offered...that means Jalen or someone is gone, right? Wouldn't we be full if Jalen returns?

That's how I'm reading it. The 20% chance I thought Jalen was going to stay is down to about 4%

Juice
03-30-2016, 05:19 PM
That's how I'm reading it. The 20% chance I thought Jalen was going to stay is down to about 4%

It's probably the opposite of that from the last month of the season.

XUFan09
03-30-2016, 06:07 PM
To be honest, the highlights I looked up, it's a poor man's version of JP. And yes, the kid can absolutely stroke it. Main negative I took away from watching what I saw (again only 3 minutes on youtube), was how long it takes him to get his shot off. I don't know if it would be quick enough at the D1 level, let alone in the big east. JP and even Redford for that matter got theirs off a lot quicker. But then again he is 6'6 so who knows
Minor point: "Even Redford" just sounded odd, considering that one of his major strengths was how quickly he released his shot.

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sirthought
03-31-2016, 12:26 AM
Here is a highlight reel for Max Strus.

He went to Lewis University because it's close to his home, his brother played on the team previously and he knew all the coaches. He got offers from other DII schools, but that might have been it for him at the time. He said in another video interview that going into the recruiting process he was primarily a distance shooter and nothing else. He has since been working on driving towards the basket to score (and the video shows he's made great progress).

I'm guessing no coach made him play defense, thus that wasn't on the table when recruiting. He scored 52 points in one game last year, so he's not shy.

He has nice size and uses his body well when working against defenders. Can both dunk and shoot the three fairly well. My guess is if he comes to XU he'll need the transfer year to learn to play defense, but his offense might be more than ready.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glAhe3CkSaY

waggy
03-31-2016, 12:33 AM
Do D2 transfers have to sit a year?

sirthought
03-31-2016, 12:35 AM
Do D2 transfers have to sit a year?

I think they do, unfortunately.

TUclutch
03-31-2016, 12:37 AM
Is he even a true PG though? From my understanding he's more of a slashing guard and Sloan played more PG for his high school team. We also have Remy's minutes to make up for so I would expect those to go to Quentin, not larry's

Remys minutes will be split more between JP and Bluiett at the 3. Gooden will absolutely take LAJ's minutes as he will likely be the first guy in behind Sumner/Myles. He'll likely play the 2 so if Sumner needs a breather, Myles will slide to the 1 like he did this year. If Myles needs a breather, Sumner stays at 1 with Gooden at 2.

I think LA is unfortunately not going to ever have a chance to play anymore than he has. He was clearly the 3rd point guard on the depth chart this season and that won't change next season. They know Sumner might leave after next season, and they will definitely look to bring in another PG and SG(Myles leaves as well). LA would then be a senior behind younger guys and still getting no more than 7-10 minutes, if that. Great kid. Works hard. Just doesn't have the talent/ability to be anything but a backup pg at best in the Big East. That isn't a knock on him at all. I didn't expect him to play as much as he has given he was such a late add to the class.

sirthought
03-31-2016, 12:40 AM
If Larry Austin stays, I wouldn't be so sure his minutes will automatically be taken by Gooden. We haven't seen this kid play one minute and Larry knows the system well by now. I am sure that Mack would want to maintain that trust.

XUFan09
03-31-2016, 01:52 AM
If Larry Austin stays, I wouldn't be so sure his minutes will automatically be taken by Gooden. We haven't seen this kid play one minute and Larry knows the system well by now. I doubt that Mack wouldn't want to maintain that trust.

Yeah, I'm not going to automatically assume that a guy who hasn't stepped on campus yet will be earning major minutes right away. I'm also not going to assume that LAJ won't make improvements himself.

XU-PA
03-31-2016, 06:49 AM
Here is a highlight reel for Max Strus.

He went to Lewis University because it's close to his home, his brother played on the team previously and he knew all the coaches. He got offers from other DII schools, but that might have been it for him at the time. He said in another video interview that going into the recruiting process he was primarily a distance shooter and nothing else. He has since been working on driving towards the basket to score (and the video shows he's made great progress).

I'm guessing no coach made him play defense, thus that wasn't on the table when recruiting. He scored 52 points in one game last year, so he's not shy.

He has nice size and uses his body well when working against defenders. Can both dunk and shoot the three fairly well. My guess is if he comes to XU he'll need the transfer year to learn to play defense, but his offense might be more than ready.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glAhe3CkSaY

the video made me throw up,,,,,the very first picture of him

drudy23
03-31-2016, 07:43 AM
Hard to tell about his game against the competition level, but he's definitely more explosive than JP.

Maybe we found a diamond in the rough.

muskienick
03-31-2016, 09:22 AM
Hard to tell about his game against the competition level, but he's definitely more explosive than JP.

Maybe we found a diamond in the rough.

If he comes to Xavier, I hope I am dead wrong about Strus. My impressions about him were that he is somewhat slow afoot and even slower in his shot release. There is no way he could have gotten away with the majority of those shots against even a mid-level Big East team. JP is miles ahead of him as far as defense is concerned and I'm not convinced that Macura couldn't have scored 60 points against the defense shown trying to defend Strus.

XUFan09
03-31-2016, 09:23 AM
If he comes to Xavier, I hope I am dead wrong about Strus. My impressions about him were that he is somewhat slow afoot and even slower in his shot release. There is no way he could have gotten away with the majority of those shots against even a mid-level Big East team. JP is miles ahead of him as far as defense is concerned and I'm not convinced that Macura couldn't have scored 60 points against the defense shown trying to defend Strus.
How can you tell that Macura is miles ahead of him defensively?

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markchal
03-31-2016, 09:29 AM
Count me with those not counting on much from Goodin next year. Not sure he's good spelling the 2 if he's not a good shooter...if anything, I think we could see more of LAJ playing alongside Sumner. LAJ looked decent at times, didn't he have a pretty good game against DePaul or someone where he had 10-12 pts and some assists? I think he can be a very serviceable role player for us, and I'm excited to see what another offseason does for his game.

Muncie
03-31-2016, 09:29 AM
I bet Coach Mack treasures each scholarship slot, therefore I believe if he offers this kid a spot he and his assistants see something they love. I disagree with the slow release take on him I noticed when he is not guarded close he takes his time to make sure he's squared up, but when necessary he does release plenty quick . Also , I bet Mack has his sprint times and his wing span and vertical numbers , and apparently he likes them. He does seem to have a nasty crossover and his mid range is sweet. His use of the glass on drives is also impressive .

scoscox
03-31-2016, 10:57 AM
JP's man defense is awful, so I would hope he could provide atleast the same level of D. He looks like a good player and I like the way he plays, but he will probably need to improve his quickness and tighten up his handle to be effective at this level.

scoscox
03-31-2016, 11:00 AM
And I hate to say it, but could this be... Trevon insurance?

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 11:20 AM
And I hate to say it, but could this be... Trevon insurance?

stop.

Muskie
03-31-2016, 11:22 AM
And I hate to say it, but could this be... Trevon insurance?

Not likely.

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 11:25 AM
Not likely.

right lol. If that were even the case, we would be in trouble

scoscox
03-31-2016, 11:27 AM
Yes we would. It makes me less concerned that he isn't a grad transfer and wouldn't be able to play right away anyway

Muskie
03-31-2016, 11:30 AM
Yes we would. It makes me less concerned that he isn't a grad transfer and wouldn't be able to play right away anyway

If you're taking about Cullen Neal, I believe he is eligible to play right away.

XUMIOH12
03-31-2016, 11:31 AM
If you're taking about Cullen Neal, I believe he is eligible to play right away.

hes talking about Strus

scoscox
03-31-2016, 11:39 AM
I meant Strus. I'm not sure why we really need either guy though

ArizonaXUGrad
04-01-2016, 04:08 PM
Not sure if it was mentioned but I have heard XU has inquired about Katin Reinhardt from USC as well. 6'6 SG, 38% from 3 and 44% overall.

bobbiemcgee
04-01-2016, 04:23 PM
Good defender as well. We need a new Remy.

ArizonaXUGrad
04-01-2016, 04:47 PM
Reinhardt is considering both UConn and Xavier so far.


Good defender as well. We need a new Remy.

Muncie
04-01-2016, 05:30 PM
I think Mack is a master at recruiting and I love the way he always has several excellent options . I believe any of these recent potential transfers would be good role players. And when he has several being courted it ups the degree of urgency on their part to commit.

GreatWhiteNorth
04-01-2016, 06:21 PM
Reinhardt was a 4-star recruit when he committed to UNLV. He later transferred to USC. It looks like he is a catch-and-shoot guy, not very fast or atheletic.

bobbiemcgee
04-01-2016, 08:00 PM
6'6" guards who average double figures for 2 yrs. in a good conference don't grow on trees.

scoscox
04-01-2016, 11:21 PM
That could be even more trouble for JP

xeus
04-01-2016, 11:31 PM
That could be even more trouble for JP


I think the Big East 6th man of the year will be just fine.

XUFan09
04-02-2016, 12:05 AM
I think the Big East 6th man of the year will be just fine.
Well, that's just crazy talk.

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scoscox
04-02-2016, 08:09 AM
Maybe. All of these guys are 6'6" scorers and built to play JP's current role.

X Factor
04-02-2016, 08:19 AM
Maybe. All of these guys are 6'6" scorers and built to play JP's current role.

Get out of here with this nonsense. I hate the offseason.

Joel
04-02-2016, 08:33 AM
Maybe. All of these guys are 6'6" scorers and built to play JP's current role.

Reinhardt is also a really good man defender. Unless JP has been sandbagging us for two years, that seems like a key difference. Reinhardt is more of a replacement for Remy than JP.

xavierj
04-02-2016, 09:13 AM
Reinhardt is also a really good man defender. Unless JP has been sandbagging us for two years, that seems like a key difference. Reinhardt is more of a replacement for Remy than JP.

This is not true. Reinhardt couldn't guard a traffic cone. He is just a good scorer. Xavier has plenty of the only thing he would bring. Doubt he ends up at Xavier.

markchal
04-02-2016, 09:36 AM
Maybe. All of these guys are 6'6" scorers and built to play JP's current role.

JP is gonna be just fine. He was one of our most consistent players down the stretch and with more minutes and a bigger role next year I expect him to be one of our leaders.

xu82
04-02-2016, 10:13 AM
This is not true. Reinhardt couldn't guard a traffic cone.

In his defense, the traffic cone had a very quick release.

Masterofreality
04-02-2016, 11:34 AM
In his defense, the traffic cone had a very quick release.

So did Rick Pitino.

xu82
04-02-2016, 11:46 AM
So did Rick Pitino.

I hope he's not teaching that....

scoscox
04-02-2016, 12:58 PM
JP is gonna be just fine. He was one of our most consistent players down the stretch and with more minutes and a bigger role next year I expect him to be one of our leaders.

Not saying he won't be fine, just saying if any of these guys are brought in they will be almost direct competition for JP's role and so he'll have to work harder to prove himself. This is why bringing in these guys would be confusing to me. We already have players that are very similar.

XUFan09
04-02-2016, 01:21 PM
Reinhardt and Strus seem to be the kind of guys that can move down to the 4 in a small ball lineup like Bluiett does. Macura, on the other hand, can move up to the 2. I wouldn't say these guys are in direct competition. They more closely match Bluiett.

Keep in mind also that Reinhardt is on the radar because HE is seriously interested in Xavier. The staff is checking him out to see if he fits, but he started the connection. Strus is a guy that would be here when Bluiett is potentially gone after sitting out a year. Also, who doesn't like more scoring off the bench? The bench next year probably isn't going to be as strong as the bench this year, with Farr gone and Macura potentially moving into the starting lineup.

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AviatorX
04-02-2016, 01:27 PM
This is not true. Reinhardt couldn't guard a traffic cone. He is just a good scorer. Xavier has plenty of the only thing he would bring. Doubt he ends up at Xavier.

Seriously. Not sure where the Banners crew got that idea other than just making it up. Maybe it was from watching his highlight tape that featured only offensive play.

XUFan09
04-02-2016, 01:30 PM
It was an inventive idea, at least.

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Drew's Crew
04-02-2016, 01:30 PM
Not saying he won't be fine, just saying if any of these guys are brought in they will be almost direct competition for JP's role and so he'll have to work harder to prove himself. This is why bringing in these guys would be confusing to me. We already have players that are very similar.

Have you ever coached at a high level before? Because this statement is music to a coach's ears.

Coaches don't spend time worrying about egos and making sure each players gets the minutes he expects to. They worry about constantly pushing every player on the team to be the best they can be so how to put the best team on the floor every single game. Period.

The lightbulb goes on for the player, and he learns to contribute like Farr or it doesn't and he ends up like our entire 2010 recruiting class.

Joel
04-02-2016, 02:22 PM
Seriously. Not sure where the Banners crew got that idea other than just making it up. Maybe it was from watching his highlight tape that featured only offensive play.

We got it from watching him play, reading his scouting reports, and talking to people who get paid to cover the USC basketball program. I'm not sure where you got your info, unless it was just talking to the California Department of Transportation.

sirthought
04-02-2016, 02:37 PM
I think they look for guys with similar skill sets because they want to match up their teams in practice with good competition AND if they can develop players in similar ways, using similar drills, they don't have to reinvent the wheel quite as frequently.

Plus, it's not like this program hasn't had a kid who couldn't play defense and they turned him into a worthy defender.

I always worry about the guys who are at a high level program and flame out to transfer, whereas the guys at smaller programs and want a challenge excite me. But we have had great success with a couple transfers from at least one high level school!

scoscox
04-02-2016, 02:46 PM
We've had atleast 4 in the last ten years, Lavender, Abell, Crawford and Holloway. Also, think about guys like Wiltjer and Sulaimon. Those guys quite often end up being very good. I'll take them over Travis Taylor.

scoscox
04-02-2016, 02:50 PM
Have you ever coached at a high level before? Because this statement is music to a coach's ears.

Coaches don't spend time worrying about egos and making sure each players gets the minutes he expects to. They worry about constantly pushing every player on the team to be the best they can be so how to put the best team on the floor every single game. Period.

The lightbulb goes on for the player, and he learns to contribute like Farr or it doesn't and he ends up like our entire 2010 recruiting class.

Obviously the coaches will enjoy the competition. I was merely commenting that on top of his legal troubles, JP's playing time appears to be increasingly in jeopardy with the addition of any of these transfers.

Juice
04-02-2016, 02:57 PM
We've had atleast 4 in the last ten years, Lavender, Abell, Crawford and Holloway. Also, think about guys like Wiltjer and Sulaimon. Those guys quite often end up being very good. I'll take them over Travis Taylor.

Rasheed left Duke for an alleged sexual assault, which is kind of different than playing time or going to a bigger program.

AviatorX
04-02-2016, 03:02 PM
We got it from watching him play, reading his scouting reports, and talking to people who get paid to cover the USC basketball program. I'm not sure where you got your info, unless it was just talking to the California Department of Transportation.

Even going back to his recruitment, not sure where you'd find one scouting report that mentions his defense as a plus. Absolutely no doubt in my mind that he's a really good player -- he's been highly rated throughout his career for one reason: he can score the ball in multiple ways.

You compared him to Remy, a player whose best attribute was his defensive ability, and arguably, his attention to detail/off the ball work more so than his on the ball defense (locking up Dunham and the Weber State SG). To be fair, during Reinhardt's recruitment, ESPN did mention that he needs to pay more attention to detail on the defensive end and that his defensive energy was inconsistent. Draft Express (deservedly) praises his offensive game while saying that with some effort, he could be a decent defender. Obviously, players grow over their time in college, but short of Stanley Burrell, you don't see too many guys come in and completely rework their game to be defensive stoppers, something you heavily implied by dubbing him a Remy replacement. Reinhardt may fancy himself becoming a physical wing defender in his graduate year, but, much like his interest in Xavier, does the coaching staff share that vision? I guess we'll find out.

That said, sounds like you've been watching a lot of UNLV/USC basketball the past few years following Reinhardt's career, so I'll defer to you.

xavierj
04-02-2016, 03:09 PM
Obviously the coaches will enjoy the competition. I was merely commenting that on top of his legal troubles, JP's playing time appears to be increasingly in jeopardy with the addition of any of these transfers.

Wow. Really? One guy would have to sit a year and the other is more interested in X, than X is in him. But okay.

X Factor
04-02-2016, 05:46 PM
Wow. Really? One guy would have to sit a year and the other is more interested in X, than X is in him. But okay.

Exactly. JP is arguably our best offensive player on the wing. His offensive rating was higher than Myles and Trevon. He actually had the highest offensive rating on the team, and it really wasn't that close.

Suggesting JP's playing time is in jeopardy is dumb, plain and simple.

Nigel Tufnel
04-02-2016, 05:54 PM
Exactly. JP is arguably our best offensive player on the wing. His offensive rating was higher than Myles and Trevon. He actually had the highest offensive rating on the team, and it really wasn't that close.

Suggesting JP's playing time is in jeopardy is dumb, plain and simple.

I posted in another thread that if JP's game improves the same from soph to junior as it did from frosh to soph, I think he'll be downright nasty...and I'm not sure how you can keep him off the floor.

X Factor
04-02-2016, 06:37 PM
I posted in another thread that if JP's game improves the same from soph to junior as it did from frosh to soph, I think he'll be downright nasty...and I'm not sure how you can keep him off the floor.

Totally agree. He won't be kept off the floor...

xu82
04-02-2016, 06:40 PM
Totally agree. He won't be kept off the floor...

But hopefully his pants will.

(Sorry, I couldn't help myself.)

mid major
04-02-2016, 07:41 PM
I have a feeling Neal would be a Cintas crowd favorite . Once X fans know how he was mistreated by fans in NM I bet they would make an extra effort to show him support . And that alone could build his confidence and aggressiveness .

It's a total shame no one uses the word aggression anymore.

xu82
04-02-2016, 07:53 PM
It's a total shame no one uses the word aggression anymore.

I use the word aggression, when that's what I mean. Maybe he meant aggressiveness?

http://grammarist.com/usage/aggression-aggressiveness/

Sorry to be that guy, but.....

scoscox
04-02-2016, 07:55 PM
Wow. Really? One guy would have to sit a year and the other is more interested in X, than X is in him. But okay.

Good point. Still, if either of those guys ever come here they are still competing for his minutes. Maybe his playing time is not in jeopardy, but it would be more hotly contested, which is always a good thing.

scoscox
04-02-2016, 07:56 PM
Rasheed left Duke for an alleged sexual assault, which is kind of different than playing time or going to a bigger program.

Good point. Still, there are many other good examples.

mid major
04-02-2016, 08:28 PM
Rasheed left Duke for an alleged sexual assault, which is kind of different than playing time or going to a bigger program.

Rasheed left Duke for an alleged sexual assault in which he showed aggression and not aggressiveness.

Xville
04-02-2016, 10:34 PM
I'd like a transfer...one that could play right away would be beneficial. We need another body at the 2...one that can penetrate and then finish at the rim. We don't really have anyone like that and it would be a huge benefit for all the shooters we have on the team.

xu82
04-02-2016, 10:40 PM
I'd like a transfer...one that could play right away would be beneficial. We need another body at the 2...one that can penetrate and then finish at the rim. We don't really have anyone like that and it would be a huge benefit for all the shooters we have on the team.

Because you don't like Myles or JP, of course. Or do you think Myles is actually a PG?

Xville
04-02-2016, 10:42 PM
Because you don't like Myles or JP, of course. Or do you think Myles is actually a PG?

I don't think myles is a very good penetrator at all. Jp is ok, and I think he can get better, but he can't guard a 2..his feet are too slow on that end.

Xavier
04-02-2016, 11:14 PM
Yeah, Myles is solid at the pull up shot. I don't think of him as a guy that penetrates and finishes at the rim. Really only Sumner/Remy could penetrate well, but neither finished particularly well. If summer works on one thing I hope it's finishing at the rim. He really only went to the hoop hoping to be fouled it seemed like.

drudy23
04-03-2016, 12:35 AM
Yeah, Myles is solid at the pull up shot. I don't think of him as a guy that penetrates and finishes at the rim. Really only Sumner/Remy could penetrate well, but neither finished particularly well. If summer works on one thing I hope it's finishing at the rim. He really only went to the hoop hoping to be fouled it seemed like.

If Sumner works on one thing...it's being a point guard. Make the right decision. Athleticism off the charts, but run your team the right way. Otherwise, play the 2.

boozehound
04-03-2016, 08:03 AM
Because you don't like Myles or JP, of course. Or do you think Myles is actually a PG?

Myles really can't penetrate very well at all. JP is better, but still not good. In fact, no one on this team really can except for Sumner, and he is inconsistent. He shows flashes in fast break type situations and when the defense breaks down, but can't yet reliably get to the rim and finish in traffic. Abell will generally show the ability to get to the rim for about 5 games per season. I do think that is a need for this team. I think Sumner probably gets a lot better at that next season, and hopefully we add another player to the rotation that can get to the rim. If we can solve that missing piece we can collapse the defense and kick out for more open perimeter shots for Blueitt, Davis, etc.

TUclutch
04-03-2016, 01:50 PM
I'd like a transfer...one that could play right away would be beneficial. We need another body at the 2...one that can penetrate and then finish at the rim. We don't really have anyone like that and it would be a huge benefit for all the shooters we have on the team.

Um, that's why they brought in Gooden

LA Muskie
04-03-2016, 02:53 PM
We can have 13 guys on scholarship. Based on the traditional 5 positions that's 2.6 players per spot. If you break it down to more like 3.5 positions -- which, the way we (and most other teams) play is more realistic, that's 3.8 players per position.


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Xville
04-03-2016, 04:39 PM
Um, that's why they brought in Gooden

So you are putting all of that on a freshman who may or may not play good minutes next year? We have no clue what is contribution will be next year. I'd like someone who is at least proven in Division 1 basketball and can come in ready to play 15-20 minutes. People are putting way too much hope on goodin.

bleedXblue
04-03-2016, 04:52 PM
So you are putting all of that on a freshman who may or may not play good minutes next year? We have no clue what is contribution will be next year. I'd like someone who is at least proven in Division 1 basketball and can come in ready to play 15-20 minutes. People are putting way too much hope on goodin.

Welcome to high level D1 basketball. The bulk of your freshman should be contributing.

XUFan09
04-03-2016, 05:07 PM
Welcome to high level D1 basketball. The bulk of your freshman should be contributing.

Yes and no. You're right that they should be contributing (*cough* 2010 class *cough*), but what Xville is talking about is someone who is consistently reliable within that role. It's hard to expect that out of a freshman, even a highly touted one. Even Sumner, one of the premier freshman in recent memory, would be inconsistent at times.

xu82
04-03-2016, 05:12 PM
Welcome to high level D1 basketball. The bulk of your freshman should be contributing.

No kidding! The kids transferring from who-knows-where were not McD's All Americans. I love good transfers, but sometimes your new guys out of high school have high expectations for a reason. I'll trust in Mack.

xu82
04-03-2016, 05:16 PM
Yes and no. You're right that they should be contributing (*cough* 2010 class *cough*), but what Xville is talking about is someone who is consistently reliable within that role. It's hard to expect that out of a freshman, even a highly touted one. Even Sumner, one of the premier freshman in recent memory, would be inconsistent at times.

I agree, but we don't need a frosh to LEAD the team, just do what fits. Attack as it makes sense and add that dimension. If a transfer fits better, fine. Again, I'll trust our coach as he seems to know a thing or two about building a team.

IM4X
04-03-2016, 11:45 PM
I agree, but we don't need a frosh to LEAD the team, just do what fits. Attack as it makes sense and add that dimension. If a transfer fits better, fine. Again, I'll trust our coach as he seems to know a thing or two about building a team.

Some dead-on observations and responses to those observations about Myles, JP, and Sumner on these past two pages. No question X desperately needs a player they can count on to penetrate and finish at the rim. I agree... xu82... we needn't expect the world of Gooden his freshman year. If he can simply continue to use his athleticism to penetrate and finish at the rim (preferably with a flush) next year, like he did in HS, it will help next season's team tremendously.

LA Muskie
04-04-2016, 12:43 AM
I disagree that we "desperately" need anything. I think we will be an outstanding team with our returning players and incoming recruits. Anything else would be gravy.


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nasdadjr
04-04-2016, 02:46 AM
I use the word aggression, when that's what I mean. Maybe he meant aggressiveness?

http://grammarist.com/usage/aggression-aggressiveness/

Sorry to be that guy, but.....

We know I'm not that guy

XUGRAD80
04-04-2016, 07:02 AM
I seem to remember Sumner having some outstanding finishes at the rim. I would expect that with another year of eating right, lifting weights, and gaining some muscle, that would only improve. I think that JP may also be asked to do more of that next year, and I certainly think he is capable of doing so. Finishing at the rim, through contact, seems to be something every freshman struggles with.

Musketeer
04-04-2016, 11:11 AM
I disagree that we "desperately" need anything. I think we will be an outstanding team with our returning players and incoming recruits. Anything else would be gravy.


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right on here. We will be good no matter what, and anyone that we add is just an extra piece to use.

xukeith
04-04-2016, 03:10 PM
X needs a Kris Jenkins. Tall guard that is reliable and dependable for very long 3 pointers and tough shots.

If you look at UV's juniors and seniors(where they were recruited and who offered them schollys) you will notice they get the cream of the crop in the Big East. It does help that they were winners in old BE and new BE. Hope over next 3-7 years, X gets better and better recruits meaning more wins and better seeds.

smileyy
04-04-2016, 03:34 PM
X needs a Kris Jenkins. Tall guard that is reliable and dependable for very long 3 pointers and tough shots.


Isn't that what Trevon Bluiett is supposed to be?

Xville
04-04-2016, 03:58 PM
X needs a Kris Jenkins. Tall guard that is reliable and dependable for very long 3 pointers and tough shots.

If you look at UV's juniors and seniors(where they were recruited and who offered them schollys) you will notice they get the cream of the crop in the Big East. It does help that they were winners in old BE and new BE. Hope over next 3-7 years, X gets better and better recruits meaning more wins and better seeds.

I disagree....I think we already have that. What I think we need is 1.) by far better defense...Villanova absolutely shut Oklahoma and Kansas down...Perry Ellis and Buddy included....and 2.) a player like Josh Hart who can penetrate and finish in the lane.

xufan2434
04-04-2016, 05:22 PM
I disagree....I think we already have that. What I think we need is 1.) by far better defense...Villanova absolutely shut Oklahoma and Kansas down...Perry Ellis and Buddy included....and 2.) a player like Josh Hart who can penetrate and finish in the lane.

I think Trevon can become somewhere in the middle of the 2. I'd say he's more like Jenkins right now, but the more he improves on driving in the lane and finishing with a pull up, he could be like Hart. I'd say Kaiser has the ability to be like Hart, if he too can become a better attacker. I'm very interested to see what his development will be in the off-season. Think this season he was just trying to find himself and a role. Now he can better assert himself into the lineup and become aggressive.

Muncie
04-04-2016, 05:45 PM
I wonder what kind of handles Gates has, I didn't actually notice this season .

XUFan09
04-04-2016, 07:06 PM
I wonder what kind of handles Gates has, I didn't actually notice this season .
I've seen some training drills that show him to have a really good handle. He hasn't really been in a position in games to be tested on that ability, though

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paulxu
04-04-2016, 07:25 PM
Watching a couple of his HS games he seems to have a good handle.
My concern about Kaiser is that he sometimes appears to have an aversion to banging inside with the big guys.
He's got a really good outside shot, but we're going to need him down inside too.

Muncie
04-06-2016, 02:04 PM
Max Strus makes ESPN #1 highlight vid https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QRZiQy8A974

Juice
04-13-2016, 01:19 PM
Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN 57m57 minutes ago
New Mexico transfer Cullen Neal told ESPN he will play at Ole Miss.

xukeith
04-13-2016, 02:27 PM
I disagree....I think we already have that. What I think we need is 1.) by far better defense...Villanova absolutely shut Oklahoma and Kansas down...Perry Ellis and Buddy included....and 2.) a player like Josh Hart who can penetrate and finish in the lane.

X recruits are not as good as VU's recruits, obviously.

X Factor
04-13-2016, 03:49 PM
X recruits are not as good as VU's recruits, obviously.

And yet X handled Nova at the Cintas....

X as a team shot just as good from three throughout the year as Nova. Let's face it, Nova shot lights out in the tourney. Their defense was excellent too though.

Did Nova need better recruits the past few years when they got bounced from the tournament the first weekend as a 1 seed or 3 seed or whatever?

XU 87
04-13-2016, 03:51 PM
In light of the fact that Nova won the national championship, has won the BE the last three years, and has lost to X once in the last three years, I think it's fair to say they have better players than X.

Musketeer
04-13-2016, 03:59 PM
Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN 57m57 minutes ago
New Mexico transfer Cullen Neal told ESPN he will play at Ole Miss.

thank goodness we can wrap up this debate

Musketeer
04-13-2016, 04:00 PM
In light of the fact that Nova won the national championship, has won the BE the last three years, and has lost to X once in the last three years, I think it's fair to say they have better players than X.

Exactly. They have better players, and have been a better team. Plain and simple. We beat them once at home this year, but i dont think any of the other games against them were really even close.

XU-PA
04-14-2016, 12:22 PM
Saw this this morning, and similar from Myles
Edmond Sumner ‏@edmondsumner 2h2 hours ago
😓

While I'm not happy to see LAJ hit the road, glad it wasn't something bigger

So how does yet another open spot feel?

ArizonaXUGrad
04-14-2016, 12:26 PM
To me, not good at all. Having 12-13 guys makes the team better. It puts the onus on the starters to keep playing hard, there are guys behind them ready to take some minutes.


Saw this this morning, and similar from Myles
Edmond Sumner ‏@edmondsumner 2h2 hours ago
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While I'm not happy to see LAJ hit the road, glad it wasn't something bigger

So how does yet another open spot feel?

xudash
04-14-2016, 12:28 PM
Saw this this morning, and similar from Myles
Edmond Sumner ‏@edmondsumner 2h2 hours ago
��

While I'm not happy to see LAJ hit the road, glad it wasn't something bigger

So how does yet another open spot feel?

Anyone have context for this? "Bigger" as in leaving due to legal or medical issues or something like that? Just wanted more playing time and nothing more?

bjf123
04-14-2016, 12:33 PM
It seems like we have one or two transfers every year. I don't pay attention to other programs, but is it normal to have multiple players transferring each year?


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XMuskieFTW
04-14-2016, 12:42 PM
It seems like we have one or two transfers every year. I don't pay attention to other programs, but is it normal to have multiple players transferring each year?


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Yes. Last year there were over 700 transfers. There are 351 D1 teams. Just what college basketball is now.

XU-PA
04-14-2016, 12:55 PM
Anyone have context for this? "Bigger" as in leaving due to legal or medical issues or something like that? Just wanted more playing time and nothing more?

Bigger as in something that was not really a surprise, a player who had more impact leaving etc

JTG
04-14-2016, 01:27 PM
This is a product of recruiting 12 players who can play, as opposed to say 8 that can play and 4 role players. That's the price of big boy basketball today. Players want to play, not sit on the bench when they know there are schools where they could shine. Austin is probably a starter at a MAC school, and London is a zone buster, at a big school, or a starter at a directional school. London was probably the 7th man on his prep school team, but that team was loaded with D1 talent.

MauriceX
04-14-2016, 01:28 PM
Anyone have context for this? "Bigger" as in leaving due to legal or medical issues or something like that? Just wanted more playing time and nothing more?

I think that part was XU-PA's commentary. When he saw Ed's tweet, it could have been a number of bad things. But it seems to just be a reaction to Austin transferring, and not some other more serious thing.

Masterofreality
04-15-2016, 07:55 PM
Tweet from Adam Zagoria-

Taurean Thompson says UConn, Syracuse, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Providence working hardest. Official to UConn Monday

xu82
04-15-2016, 08:16 PM
Tweet from Adam Zagoria-

Taurean Thompson says UConn, Syracuse, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Providence working hardest. Official to UConn Monday

Bummer, I suppose, but not shocking or our biggest need. Hoping for some cool recruiting news soon that I didn't expect. I know we lost "depth guys" to transfer, but those are guys you need when growing a program.

scoscox
04-15-2016, 08:18 PM
Tweet from Adam Zagoria-

Taurean Thompson says UConn, Syracuse, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Providence working hardest. Official to UConn Monday

I guess we don't really want him. Don't see why we would we have a lot of young guys in the frontcourt.

XUFan09
04-15-2016, 08:43 PM
Bummer, I suppose, but not shocking or our biggest need. Hoping for some cool recruiting news soon that I didn't expect. I know we lost "depth guys" to transfer, but those are guys you need when growing a program.
I would love a traditional transfer on the guard or wing. The coaches wouldn't have to worry about keeping him happy this next year when there's still a lot of depth, and he can step in after that when there's a greater need.

Strus would be huge.

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xu82
04-15-2016, 08:51 PM
I would love a traditional transfer on the guard or wing. The coaches wouldn't have to worry about keeping him happy this next year when there's still a lot of depth, and he can step in after that when there's a greater need.

Strus would be huge.

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I have close to zero knowledge on the recruiting or transfer front. Is Strus that good and can he defend? Do we NEED Goodin now to be ready for immediate minutes? Is he up to that? Is there someone else? Thank you coach Mack for your reply.

Juice
04-15-2016, 08:55 PM
I have close to zero knowledge on the recruiting or transfer front. Is Strus that good and can he defend? Do we NEED Goodin now to be ready for immediate minutes? Is he up to that? Is there someone else? Thank you coach Mack for your reply. :secret:

My understanding is that Strus is a Blueitt-like player. I don't think he's good defensively but he'd have to sit out a year anyways. Goodin will have to play some minutes considering our back court is the same except we lose Remy and Larry.

xu82
04-15-2016, 09:00 PM
My understanding is that Strus is a Blueitt-like player. I don't think he's good defensively but he'd have to sit out a year anyways. Goodin will have to play some minutes considering our back court is the same except we lose Remy and Larry.

"Bluiett-like" sounds good to me! Sign me up for that.

Juice
04-15-2016, 09:12 PM
"Bluiett-like" sounds good to me! Sign me up for that.

Ha, well I meant as far as his size, weight, style of play, etc. I don't know if he will ever be 1st team Big East but yes if he's anything like Trevon then count me in as well.

AviatorX
04-15-2016, 09:19 PM
I guess we don't really want him. Don't see why we would we have a lot of young guys in the frontcourt.

Here's the full quote for context...

https://twitter.com/KP_Rivals/status/721136119430180864

scoscox
04-15-2016, 09:52 PM
Ha, well I meant as far as his size, weight, style of play, etc. I don't know if he will ever be 1st team Big East but yes if he's anything like Trevon then count me in as well.

Just watching highlights that's what I thought as well. Sharp shooting, oversized (slightly slow) small forward. Definitely an effective position in college basketball, I think he can be a big help.

scoscox
04-15-2016, 09:53 PM
Here's the full quote for context...

https://twitter.com/KP_Rivals/status/721136119430180864

Interesting.

XUFan09
04-15-2016, 09:57 PM
Just watching highlights that's what I thought as well. Sharp shooting, oversized (slightly slow) small forward. Definitely an effective position in college basketball, I think he can be a big help.
With some shot blocking ability that would help offset his lack of footspeed.

Edit: Please note that in no way and I'm suggesting that he's a rim protector. But, a large part of shot blocking is timing, and that will translate well to this level.

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Juice
04-22-2016, 12:14 PM
WeAreDePaul.com
‏@WeAreDePaul
Lewis transfer Max Strus will transfer to DePaul. Story coming right up. #DPUBB #DEPAULDRIVEN #depaul

kyxu
04-22-2016, 12:24 PM
WeAreDePaul.com
‏@WeAreDePaul
Lewis transfer Max Strus will transfer to DePaul. Story coming right up. #DPUBB #DEPAULDRIVEN #depaul

Kind of a shock. Belief was that it was between Xavier and Butler, and the visit to DePaul was perfunctory (mom was a star there).

Cheesehead
04-22-2016, 12:28 PM
Guess he doesn't want to win in the Big East. oh well. Enjoy the cellar.

Masterofreality
04-22-2016, 12:51 PM
He obviously did not want to leave Chicago.

Whatever.

XUFan09
04-22-2016, 12:58 PM
That's really disappointing. Not only will he not be at Xavier, he probably won't contribute to improving Big East. DePaul sucking a little less doesn't really move the needle. Butler having a scorer on the wing would have.

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Xville
04-23-2016, 06:42 AM
I'm not really concerned for next year, but 2017-8 mack and staff have a ton of recruiting work to do. At best the team will have 5 spots open, and if sumner has the kind of year I think he can have next year, he's gone as well. Most likely the team will have one experienced player in the backcourt and that will be a sophomore in goodin.

xu82
04-23-2016, 08:16 AM
He obviously did not want to leave Chicago.

Whatever.

Well, when it's tournament time, that's just where he'll be.

xeus
04-23-2016, 09:18 AM
Any insight on O'Mara considering a transfer? WTF?

casualfan
04-23-2016, 09:34 AM
Any insight on O'Mara considering a transfer? WTF?

Uhh what? Where'd you hear this?

casualfan
04-23-2016, 11:05 AM
saw that too

Where?

Juice
04-23-2016, 11:21 AM
Where?

It's also been brought up on the Scout board.

casualfan
04-23-2016, 11:55 AM
It's also been brought up on the Scout board.

Thanks guys. That'd be an interesting one.

I understand Larry and to a lesser degree Makinde but this one would really surprise me.

GuyFawkes38
04-23-2016, 12:11 PM
This is why Mack gets paid the big bucks. Get him to stay. In the middle of the night, go below his dorm room window with a stereo playing, "In your eyes". Do whatever it takes.

LA Muskie
04-23-2016, 03:22 PM
It's also been brought up on the Scout board.

Unless I missed something, the posts on Scout actually were about Makinde, not O'Mara. The OP didn't mention names but others inferred he was referring to O'Mara. When Makinde announced, the OP confirmed that's who he was talking about.

Aside from that thread I've seen no discussion on Scout about O'Mara potentially leaving.

GreatWhiteNorth
04-23-2016, 03:45 PM
OMG, rumors like that can cause heart attack. Please clarify. Next thing someone is going to say TB is leaving.

xudash
04-23-2016, 04:05 PM
Unless I missed something, the posts on Scout actually were about Makinde, not O'Mara. The OP didn't mention names but others inferred he was referring to O'Mara. When Makinde announced, the OP confirmed that's who he was talking about.

Aside from that thread I've seen no discussion on Scout about O'Mara potentially leaving.

Geez. Thanks for the clarification.

kmcrawfo
04-23-2016, 04:22 PM
The rumor about O'Mara leaving is unfortunately true. May not happen but it's definitely possible

Xville
04-23-2016, 04:29 PM
The rumor about O'Mara leaving is unfortunately true. May not happen but it's definitely possible

I wonder what his reasons would be? Is he not in line for a bunch of playing time..or is it that Gaston and ekiyor would be playing in front of him? We'd be down to 9 scholarship players...that would not be good even if our rotation is only 7-8

What the hell is going on?

XMuskieFTW
04-23-2016, 04:33 PM
The rumor about O'Mara leaving is unfortunately true. May not happen but it's definitely possible

Excuse me while my soul dies in a corner. This would be devastating.

xudash
04-23-2016, 05:13 PM
Excuse me while my soul dies in a corner. This would be devastating.

Let's let it play out. Hopefully, he gets past his issues and he stays at X.

GIMMFD
04-23-2016, 05:14 PM
What in the hell is going on, we could potentially have 3 transfers out!? If O'Mara leaves, then I PRAY that it's because Ekinyor has been so damn good, or something of that nature, but I really really hope we don't lose anybody else in our frontcourt.

Xville
04-23-2016, 05:24 PM
Let's let it play out. Hopefully, he gets past his issues and he stays at X.

Don't know what his issues are but if he is unhappy about playing time I'd rather just have him leave...better for chemistry etc, plus I mean if you are unhappy about it, do something about it...I mean get better! Hopefully it's not something more serious than that.

XUFan09
04-23-2016, 05:32 PM
I doubt it boils down to playing time. He has a good chance of being a starter this next season.

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paulxu
04-23-2016, 05:50 PM
Aaaaaaaaand, another off season rolls along....

Roadlife
04-23-2016, 06:11 PM
The rumor about O'Mara leaving is unfortunately true. May not happen but it's definitely possible
Who started it? That's the better approach.

XU 87
04-23-2016, 06:23 PM
I thought we had a rule on this board that we couldn't/wouldn't speculate about a guy transferring. I will also reiterate that there has not been one word about this on Scout.

LA Muskie
04-23-2016, 06:25 PM
I wouldn't doubt Kevin -- I don't think he would corroborate something like this if it wasn't a serious possibility about which he had solid info.

But to be clear there has been no discussion of it on Scout. That's not necessarily unusual -- transfer rumors are even less welcome there than here. But because the Scout site was mentioned earlier I wanted to clear that up.


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Nigel Tufnel
04-23-2016, 06:33 PM
I thought we had a rule on this board that we couldn't/wouldn't speculate about a guy transferring. I will also reiterate that there has not been one word about this on Scout.

Yes, there most certainly has. You must not have read the right thread. It's there.

And it's 100% legit considering the source.

XU 87
04-23-2016, 06:40 PM
which thread? the only one I remember was someone mentioned a player transferring. Some people thought he was referring to O'Mara. He was referring to Makinde.

XMuskieFTW
04-23-2016, 06:51 PM
I'm very surprised we haven't heard more rumblings about potential transfers in. We are at 10 schollys with the possibility of being down to 9 and no one is even taking visits or showing interest in X(aside from the few guys who have already committed elsewhere.) If there's truly the chance we don't have Sean next year, I'm hoping the staff is racing to try and fill that gap with a 5th year guy who can play 20 minutes a game at the 5.

Juice
04-23-2016, 06:57 PM
which thread? the only one I remember was someone mentioned a player transferring. Some people thought he was referring to O'Mara. He was referring to Makinde.

Wrong. There's talk on there. "Evaluation Period - Nuggets - April 23"

XUFan09
04-23-2016, 06:58 PM
There haven't been a lot of transfers looking at Xavier because Xavier is less enticing than usual for a transfer. It's tough to pursue guys when there aren't a lot of minutes to offer and you are only looking for a certain type of player. That said, if O'Mara transfers, that changes things.

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kmcrawfo
04-23-2016, 08:18 PM
I have no idea what is or isn't on scout. Someone called / texted me about this so I didn't realize it wasn't common knowledge. I am certainly not a rumor or gossip monger. as far as I can tell I wouldn't read into this or worry about it too much. X will be in good shape up front on way or another. Kids have to do what is best for them and get pulled in many directions from different sources. Our staff are fantastic and we are in great shape for this year and next and those going forward. I feel lucky to have coach mack and the rest of his team at the reigns. We are in the best shape our program has ever been in. This seems like a sensitive issue so I won't comment any more..

xudash
04-23-2016, 09:05 PM
I have no idea what is or isn't on scout. Someone called / texted me about this so I didn't realize it wasn't common knowledge. I am certainly not a rumor or gossip monger. as far as I can tell I wouldn't read into this or worry about it too much. X will be in good shape up front on way or another. Kids have to do what is best for them and get pulled in many directions from different sources. Our staff are fantastic and we are in great shape for this year and next and those going forward. I feel lucky to have coach mack and the rest of his team at the reigns. We are in the best shape our program has ever been in. This seems like a sensitive issue so I won't comment any more..

You are a class act. I doubt anyone with a clue here would take you for a gossip monger.

And I certainly agree with your larger point about the state of the program and Coach Mack. I hope our football player from IL stays, but onward and upward we go either way.

LA Muskie
04-23-2016, 10:15 PM
But to be clear there has been no discussion of it on Scout. That's not necessarily unusual -- transfer rumors are even less welcome there than here. But because the Scout site was mentioned earlier I wanted to clear that up.

I was wrong. It has been discussed on Scout and is considered more than just a rumor. (Thanks for privately letting me know, Juice.)

xu82
04-23-2016, 10:37 PM
I really hope he stays, but I want what's best for him first and foremost. Seems like he has a bright future, and I hope it's here going deep into the tournament. I trust in our staff to do what's best for all concerned.

scoscox
04-24-2016, 12:17 AM
I can't see why it would be about playing time. You have a chance to start on a potentially preseason top 10 team. Why would you want to leave? This would make no sense whatsoever.

Snipe
04-24-2016, 01:16 AM
I think that young man is a big part of our future and I love him.

Not happy with this. They talk about Xavier as a Big Man Factory and they have talked about this for years. We put guys into the NBA and into International play. This is the big time. He can be all he wants to be right here. This is the right place. He has two more years, and we are going to have the outside game both to free him up and the guards to feed him the rock.

Haste makes waste! Don't make the wrong decision!

I love the Big Man!!!

GIMMFD
04-24-2016, 01:49 AM
He's a young adult, who knows what the motive is? Maybe he doesn't like Xavier parties, maybe he got heartbroken, can't speculate, just hope that he stays more than anything tbh.

Snipe
04-24-2016, 02:33 AM
I didn't like many Xavier parties, but this is the Xavier Big Man Factory we are talking about.

Nobody cared if I stayed of if I went anywhere, but for this man, people want him to stay and it is in his best interest. They call it the Xavier Big Man Factory for a reason.

If he does stay, in his senior year he should get a job with Uber, just to piss people off.

Did you know that Matt Stainbrook worked for Uber? I heard that once.

I think this young man is going to go places, but not by going somewhere else. He is going to go places by staying right here at Xavier University.

XMuskieFTW
04-24-2016, 03:19 AM
I don't think I've ever been more excited about the prospects of a player than I am of Sean. I am a huge fan of guys who can score in the post and rebound. My favorite players most year play the 4 or the 5. Big Sean's post moves are a thing of beauty. He needs to stay. 20+ minutes of him next year would be immaculate.

xu82
04-24-2016, 06:20 AM
I can't see why it would be about playing time. You have a chance to start on a potentially preseason top 10 team. Why would you want to leave? This would make no sense whatsoever.
The bold part is all true. As to the why? No telling..... but who knows what's going on in anyone's personal life that affects the decisions they make. I just hope he's here next season and is a huge part of a deep run.

bleedXblue
04-24-2016, 08:57 AM
The bold part is all true. As to the why? No telling..... but who knows what's going on in anyone's personal life that affects the decisions they make. I just hope he's here next season and is a huge part of a deep run.

yes

GreatWhiteNorth
04-24-2016, 09:12 AM
I can't see why it would be about playing time. You have a chance to start on a potentially preseason top 10 team. Why would you want to leave? This would make no sense whatsoever.

Agree. If he does leave, that means we lost all four 6'10" players and probably our rebounding edge.

Muskie
04-24-2016, 09:49 AM
Heard this rumour a few days ago... Decided to leave it up here as its not something that's just coming from Scout. I also believe I heard it from a different person than kmcrawford. So it's out there.


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Murph85
04-24-2016, 10:11 AM
Any chance the recruitment of Taurean Thompson by Murray is a factor? Maybe he makes room for another big? Maybe X looking at him shows lack of confidence in O'Mara?

Perhaps he just does not like environment?

Off season drama. It gets bigger when as X gets better.

casualfan
04-24-2016, 11:01 PM
I would think that the further we get away from the reports of him considering a transfer the more likely it gets that he stays.

Hopefully no news is good news.

xu82
04-25-2016, 06:55 AM
I was wondering if there is any kind of deadline which might pass signaling he is staying. Is there a hard line or practical point of no departure? I hope he stays and is ultimately happy wth his decision.

Milhouse
04-25-2016, 08:25 AM
I would think that the further we get away from the reports of him considering a transfer the more likely it gets that he stays.

Hopefully no news is good news.

I mean reports popped up Saturday and Mack & Co. were out recruiting throughout this week. I'm sure he promised Mack a sit down before he makes his final decision.

I'd imagine we'd hear something one way or another by end of week.

XMuskieFTW
04-25-2016, 08:47 AM
I'm just very curious the motive behind wanting to potentially transfer, whether it is him not getting along with the staff or not liking the school or whatever is may be. He's going to play very significant minutes on a top 15 team for the next two years and is contemplating sitting out a year, so there has to be something big eating at him.

xu82
04-25-2016, 08:57 AM
I'm just very curious the motive behind wanting to potentially transfer, whether it is him not getting along with the staff or not liking the school or whatever is may be. He's going to play very significant minutes on a top 15 team for the next two years and is contemplating sitting out a year, so there has to be something big eating at him.

And it just could be totally unrelated to basketball or Xavier. We all have a lot of different aspects to our lives. We see him on the court with a Xavier jersey, but hes much more than that. He's a young man with a life, so who knows what might be driving this?

XMuskieFTW
04-25-2016, 09:07 AM
And it just could be totally unrelated to basketball or Xavier. We all have a lot of different aspects to our lives. We see him on the court with a Xavier jersey, but hes much more than that. He's a young man with a life, so who knows what might be driving this?

It's about a girl isn't it?

xu82
04-25-2016, 10:31 AM
It's about a girl isn't it?

I have zero idea what it is. I just think that presuming it is about coaches or minutes or Xavier in general is ignoring an entire universe of other possibilities. Hopefully it all works out!

muskiefan82
04-25-2016, 10:37 AM
I have zero idea what it is. I just think that presuming it is about coaches or minutes or Xavier in general is ignoring an entire universe of other possibilities. Hopefully it all works out!

Perhaps his teammates are always after his lucky charms.

xu82
04-25-2016, 11:28 AM
Perhaps his teammates are always after his lucky charms.

They ARE magically delicious, so that's a plausible explanation.

BandAid
04-25-2016, 12:52 PM
It's about a girl isn't it?

I would never recommend anyone pick a school or transfer to a school because of a girl.

bobbiemcgee
04-25-2016, 01:22 PM
Maybe the chick from "Weird Science".

XU 87
04-25-2016, 01:27 PM
Maybe the chick from "Weird Science".

Have you seen her lately?

nuts4xu
04-25-2016, 01:50 PM
Have you seen her lately?

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kelly+LeBrock+42nd+Annual+Academy+Magical+h31Ss_zZ Qr1l.jpg

This is not what Gary and Wyatt had in mind back in the day....

paulxu
04-25-2016, 01:53 PM
Yikes!

xudash
04-25-2016, 02:51 PM
Nuts, that's nuts.

SemajParlor
04-25-2016, 02:56 PM
I hate the offseason. That's why you have to win when you have a window to do so. This would be a brutal loss - loved this kid's potential.

muskiefan82
04-25-2016, 03:00 PM
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kelly+LeBrock+42nd+Annual+Academy+Magical+h31Ss_zZ Qr1l.jpg

This is not what Gary and Wyatt had in mind back in the day....

I blame Chet.

X-band '01
04-25-2016, 04:11 PM
Nuts is still topping off to that pic.

Juice
05-18-2016, 10:24 AM
Jeff Borzello ‏@jeffborzello 1m1 minute ago
Kentucky freshman Charles Matthews is transferring, the school announced. Former ESPN 100 prospect. http://es.pn/1To6MML

Juice
06-01-2016, 04:25 PM
Jeff Borzello ‏@jeffborzello 44m44 minutes ago
Xavier and Michigan are among the schools in the mix for Kentucky transfer Charles Matthews, sources told ESPN.

XMuskieFTW
06-01-2016, 05:26 PM
Jeff Borzello ‏@jeffborzello 44m44 minutes ago
Xavier and Michigan are among the schools in the mix for Kentucky transfer Charles Matthews, sources told ESPN.

Yes please. I'm all for this.

Emp
06-01-2016, 08:35 PM
Jeff Borzello ‏@jeffborzello 44m44 minutes ago
Xavier and Michigan are among the schools in the mix for Kentucky transfer Charles Matthews, sources told ESPN.

I like Belein, but Michigan is a sinking ship right now with defections on the team and staff. If it's us or them, we should win this one.

Musketeer
06-02-2016, 12:44 AM
i'd be a fan of this addition, if we can land him.

Muncie
06-02-2016, 01:39 AM
I assume he'd have to sit out a year.,

XUGRAD80
06-02-2016, 06:32 AM
I assume he'd have to sit out a year.,

Yes....according to the article I read, he would

casualfan
06-02-2016, 07:56 AM
Corry Black (@CoachCBlack) tweeted at 7:52 AM on Thu, Jun 02, 2016:
UK Transfer 6'6 G Charles Matthews will Transfer to Michigan.

casualfan
06-02-2016, 09:41 AM
I know that guy is very connected in GA which is why i posted his tweet, but i would've thought some of the national media would have picked up on it by now.

Hopefully he jumped the gun. I did see that Charles most recent follow on twitter is Coach Mack.

GoMuskies
06-02-2016, 09:44 AM
This guy barely played on a pretty pedestrian Kentucky team. I won't be heartbroken if he goes elsewhere.

casualfan
06-02-2016, 09:48 AM
This guy barely played on a pretty pedestrian Kentucky team. I won't be heartbroken if he goes elsewhere.

I mean, he was stuck behind a top 5 pick.

Murph85
06-02-2016, 10:04 AM
This gut can't shoot. I would be fine if he goes to Michigan.

I would much prefer Markell Johnson and I believe we are very much in the mix.

GoMuskies
06-02-2016, 10:33 AM
This gut can't shoot. I would be fine if he goes to Michigan.


He shot a blazing 14-34 from the foul line.

XU3232
06-02-2016, 11:03 AM
He still has a lot of potential... he is an above average defender and knows how to get to the rim.

casualfan
06-02-2016, 11:12 AM
This gut can't shoot. I would be fine if he goes to Michigan.

I would much prefer Markell Johnson and I believe we are very much in the mix.

I think we're going to get Johnson, the only question for me is whether it is for 2016 or 2017.

xudash
06-02-2016, 11:42 AM
I think we're going to get Johnson, the only question for me is whether it is for 2016 or 2017.

Who is this Johnson of whom you speak and want.

XUFan09
06-02-2016, 11:50 AM
Who is this Johnson of whom you speak and want.

Markell Johnson

http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?31082-Markell-Johnson&p=554919#post554919

xudash
06-02-2016, 12:10 PM
Markell Johnson

http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?31082-Markell-Johnson&p=554919#post554919

Show-off.

Actually, thank you. I guess I should more fully familiarize myself with all the info on this site.

XU3232
06-02-2016, 12:46 PM
Getting Markell would be huge... I hope this happens.

XUFan09
06-02-2016, 01:03 PM
Show-off.

Actually, thank you. I guess I should more fully familiarize myself with all the info on this site.
;)

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nuts4xu
06-02-2016, 01:04 PM
Corry Black (@CoachCBlack) tweeted at 7:52 AM on Thu, Jun 02, 2016:
UK Transfer 6'6 G Charles Matthews will Transfer to Michigan.

I'm not ready to believe one unconfirmed tweet, it would be great to add this kid to our program.