View Full Version : Now X must win for BE pride
Xuperman
03-20-2016, 01:31 PM
With the Nova game well in hand, A Xavier victory tonight will rescue the Big East from another embarrassment in the Dance. Butler looked OK, but the Pirates and the Friars did not represent our conference, re-enforcing the concerns of many here. .Whitehead? What happened. Please go pro........go X!!!
Masterofreality
03-20-2016, 01:37 PM
Butler played well, but Virginia shot 73% in the second half. No problem with their effort.
Providence just ran out of gas. Not enough depth and Ed Cooley did as much with that team as he possibly could have.
Seton Hall got a tough draw in a tough venue for them, but no props to Whitehead. Too selfish.
No doubt, Nova and X have to carry the banner.
xufan2020
03-20-2016, 01:44 PM
Pirates and Friars didn't represent? Get off your high-horse. Sure Seton Hall flamed out early, but they're our conference tournament champs. They balled in the Garden. And the Friars beat USC and gave UNC a good scare for 30 min. What is this, "didn't represent" BS. I really take issue with that.
Xuperman
03-20-2016, 01:45 PM
Watched the entire UNC/PC game. Yes Dunn ran out of gas! If both he and Bentol declare, the BE has another Fordam in the waiting. ZERO talent......G o X
Roach
03-20-2016, 01:46 PM
Butler played well, but Virginia shot 73% in the second half. No problem with their effort.
Providence just ran out of gas. Not enough depth and Ed Cooley did as much with that team as he possibly could have.
Seton Hall got a tough draw in a tough venue for them, but no props to Whitehead. Too selfish.
No doubt, Nova and X have to carry the banner.
What's so frustrating about Seton Hall is that, should Whitehead et al. return next season, they'll be a tough, tough win for everyone in the league, but will remain likely to shit the bed in the tournament. I view them as something of a gadfly - a constant irritant that can't really hurt you. They'll be good next year, and maybe beat us a few times, but they'll totally blow it in the tournament because they can never put all of their available pieces together when it really counts.
GoMuskies
03-20-2016, 01:46 PM
Seton Hall sucked. But they were pretty shitty most of the year, so no surprise.
BandAid
03-20-2016, 01:51 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qHS_ntIvY4M
Xuperman
03-20-2016, 01:52 PM
Hey 2020,
The "new" BE desperately needs to make hay NOW. The national sportswriters need no additional reason to marginalize the re-alignment. SH was a complete disaster on the big stage.....no debate possible.
BandAid
03-20-2016, 01:53 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qHS_ntIvY4M
Sorry I couldn't get it to imbed. But this is how I feel about this thread.
Roach
03-20-2016, 01:55 PM
Seton Hall sucked. But they were pretty shitty most of the year, so no surprise.
It's hard, if not impossible, for me to say that a 25-9 team that beat Villanova and X twice and won the Big East tournament was "pretty shitty most of the year." Their only bad losses were to Long Beach State and George Washington early in the season, and at a time when GW was playing very well. Other than Butler, their only other losses were to teams we lost to as well.
GoMuskies
03-20-2016, 02:00 PM
They were impressive in NYC last week, but that was about it. I knew it wouldn't last. I'm glad it didn't last, frankly, because they're Jersey trash.
XUFan09
03-20-2016, 02:12 PM
Providence won their first round game versus an equivalent opponent and did about what you expect against a 1 seed, keeping it close for most of the game before UNC remembered that they are the most talented team in America. In no way should they be grouped with Seton Hall's tournament performance.
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Xuperman
03-20-2016, 02:18 PM
Roach ur point is indisputable. However the BE Conference and it's reputation is hanging on a thread. Seton Hall's proformance was BY FAR the most embarrassing from a BigEast prospective. We, as a conferance, MUST make headlines nationally now. The media vultures are already wanting to pounch!!
Masterofreality
03-20-2016, 02:21 PM
The more I'm seeing from "Xuperman" the more I'm smelling an AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC troll.
I think the league reputation will be fine. Other than the ACC, every league has had it's negative moments here.
Roach
03-20-2016, 02:27 PM
Roach ur point is indisputable. However the BE Conference and it's reputation is hanging on a thread. Seton Hall's proformance was BY FAR the most embarrassing from a BigEast prospective. We, as a conferance, MUST make headlines nationally now. The media vultures are already wanting to pounch!!
I agree for the most part (exception - I don't believe the BE's reputation is "hanging on a thread"; I think it's in a slightly, SLIGHTLY, precarious position). The only point I'm trying to make is that Seton Hall is far better than their first round exit indicates. For the sake of the conference and its reputation, we need much better from the Pirates when it most counts.
Porkopolis
03-20-2016, 02:30 PM
I think the league reputation will be fine. Other than the ACC, every league has had it's negative moments here.
The media is already going down the "Big East is overrated" path. CBS has done it several times this weekend and ESPN has done it constantly. The same is not being done to other leagues, including the self-destructing Big Ten. Like it or not, our league's reputation rests in part on what X and Nova do from here on out. Is the media right? Of course not. But it doesn't really matter because they drive the narrative that Joe Q. Public laps up. We are an unusual lot on this board: folks who breathe college hoops. All most people know is the tournament.
GIMMFD
03-20-2016, 02:35 PM
The media is already going down the "Big East is overrated" path. CBS has done it several times this weekend and ESPN has done it constantly. The same is not being done to other leagues, including the self-destructing Big Ten. Like it or not, our league's reputation rests in part on what X and Nova do from here on out. Is the media right? Of course not. But it doesn't really matter because they drive the narrative that Joe Q. Public laps up. We are an unusual lot on this board: folks who breathe college hoops. All most people know is the tournament.
If both teams can make the Elite 8, I don't think we'll have a problem with pundits, the Big 10 is awful, the Pac 12 is awful, and the ACC had some easy draws, I have full faith that if we can just keep playing good basketball, there will be nothing the ESPN idiots could as ammo against us. Just have to win the games we're supposed to win.
novachap
03-20-2016, 02:44 PM
OK X, your turn. Beat them up.
UCGRAD4X
03-20-2016, 03:08 PM
OK X, your turn. Beat them up.
Congrats! Glad to see your boys step up.
Good for Nova and good for the league. (WTF, HALL!)
We got this!
chico
03-20-2016, 03:23 PM
Roach ur point is indisputable. However the BE Conference and it's reputation is hanging on a thread. Seton Hall's proformance was BY FAR the most embarrassing from a BigEast prospective. We, as a conferance, MUST make headlines nationally now. The media vultures are already wanting to pounch!!
I think i agree with MOR. Seton Hall lost to a team that embarrassed Utah, one of the darlings of the tournament. Providence was with UNC until some questionable foul calls on their best players. Butler gave Virginia all it could handle. The Big East has acquitted itself just fine so far.
xufan2020
03-20-2016, 03:44 PM
Hey 2020,
The "new" BE desperately needs to make hay NOW. The national sportswriters need no additional reason to marginalize the re-alignment. SH was a complete disaster on the big stage.....no debate possible.
Hey Xuperman,
I watched the game. Your Providence/Fordham comparison is laughable and the reputation of the Big East is NOT hanging on a thread. The Big East is here and will be good for a long time.
Providence can hold their heads high. No shame there at all.
UCGRAD4X
03-20-2016, 03:50 PM
I think i agree with MOR. Seton Hall lost to a team that embarrassed Utah, one of the darlings of the tournament. Providence was with UNC until some questionable foul calls on their best players. Butler gave Virginia all it could handle. The Big East has acquitted itself just fine so far.
Seton Hall acquitted themselves very well against a couple of two seeds just last week.
(One of which I considered somewhat embarrassing)
MauriceX
03-20-2016, 04:02 PM
Coming into today, the Big East had the third best conference winning percentage so far in the tournament. The ACC and Big 10 were the only ones ahead. The Big East is doing just fine.
Masterofreality
03-20-2016, 04:08 PM
The media is already going down the "Big East is overrated" path. CBS has done it several times this weekend and ESPN has done it constantly. The same is not being done to other leagues, including the self-destructing Big Ten. Like it or not, our league's reputation rests in part on what X and Nova do from here on out. Is the media right? Of course not. But it doesn't really matter because they drive the narrative that Joe Q. Public laps up. We are an unusual lot on this board: folks who breathe college hoops. All most people know is the tournament.
F ESPN. The fact is that both Providence and Butler were not overrated but properly seeded- two 9's vs 2 number 1's. How the hell can you say the Big East was "overrated" when the ACC was a higher ranked league on the computer? 9's don't beat 1's very often in the Tournament. Fact.
Here's a fact about who might be "overrated" ESPN:
-How about the Pac 12 who got 7, count 'em- 7 teams in the Dance and only have ONE left? The Pac 12 was rated either 1 or 2 in the computer conference ratings.
-How about the Big 10 who got 7, count 'em- 7 teams in the Dance and after Xavier takes care of business tonight, will only have TWO teams left?.
The Big East will have 40% of its invited teams and 20% of the whole conference in the Sweet 16.
#F-ESPN
GoMuskies
03-20-2016, 04:13 PM
As long as we win tonight, it will be a fine Tournament for the Big East.
bobbiemcgee
03-20-2016, 04:34 PM
OK X, your turn. Beat them up.
Nova came out and destroyed Iowa in 10 minutes. Hoping for the same. Welcome to the 2nd weekend.
waggy
03-20-2016, 04:41 PM
Roach ur point is indisputable. However the BE Conference and it's reputation is hanging on a thread. Seton Hall's proformance was BY FAR the most embarrassing from a BigEast prospective. We, as a conferance, MUST make headlines nationally now. The media vultures are already wanting to pounch!!
This might be the gayest thing ever posted here. And that's saying something.
Muskie
03-20-2016, 04:45 PM
Roach ur point is indisputable. However the BE Conference and it's reputation is hanging on a thread. Seton Hall's proformance was BY FAR the most embarrassing from a BigEast prospective. We, as a conferance, MUST make headlines nationally now. The media vultures are already wanting to pounch!!
More embarrassing than Michigan State for the Big Ten? Surely you have some sort of agenda? You can't really believe the reputation of the conference is Hanging by a thread.
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bleedXblue
03-20-2016, 05:23 PM
man guys....can't you see a troll here? Come on.
Was coming to wish you boys luck. Bring your game and you beat the Badgers comfortably. Really pulling for you guys. Unfortunately I think too much of a team or conference is judged by March but it is what it is. Butler and prov could be part of the lazy story that big east isnt that good but we all know that not to be true. I think every single fan base and coach loves this conference and knows we are lucky and posies for great things. I guess we need more elites and deep runs to be considered with the ACC and the like. Again good luck to both of us in getting that done. But it's a fickle thing. Many nova fans still think last years team was better but whatever they had an off night. Guess you just have to play the ncaa tourney game and rep the best you can. Again good luck guys, we are all pulling for you.
Masterofreality
03-20-2016, 05:32 PM
Was coming to wish you boys luck. Bring your game and you beat the Badgers comfortably. Really pulling for you guys. Unfortunately I think too much of a team or conference is judged by March but it is what it is. Butler and shu could be part of the lazy story that big east isnt that good but we all know that not to be true. I think every single fan base and coach loves this conference and knows we are lucky and posies for great things. I guess we need more elites and deep runs to be considered with the ACC and the like. Again good luck to both of us in getting that done. But it's a fickle thing. Many nova fans still think last years team was better but whatever they had an off night. Guess you just have to play the ncaa tourney game and rep the best you can. Again good luck guys, we are all pulling for you.
Good job today, Nova! Way to rep!!!
nasdadjr
03-20-2016, 05:33 PM
The more I'm seeing from "Xuperman" the more I'm smelling an AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC troll.
I think the league reputation will be fine. Other than the ACC, every league has had it's negative moments here.
Yeah I say troll
nasdadjr
03-20-2016, 05:35 PM
I gotta take offense to the thread though because we had 5 teams get in and if Xavier wins the conference will be 6-3 with 2 sweet 16 teams. That's a strong ass showing if you ask me
XUGRAD80
03-20-2016, 05:40 PM
How about X winning for Xavier pride? Let Nova win for Nova pride. Let the others worry about upholding their part of the bargain. Let the plaudits worry about how the BE might be viewed. You think UConn was worrying about upholding AAC pride? Or where they worried about winning a championship?
xudash
03-20-2016, 05:46 PM
Was coming to wish you boys luck. Bring your game and you beat the Badgers comfortably. Really pulling for you guys. Unfortunately I think too much of a team or conference is judged by March but it is what it is. Butler and prov could be part of the lazy story that big east isnt that good but we all know that not to be true. I think every single fan base and coach loves this conference and knows we are lucky and posies for great things. I guess we need more elites and deep runs to be considered with the ACC and the like. Again good luck to both of us in getting that done. But it's a fickle thing. Many nova fans still think last years team was better but whatever they had an off night. Guess you just have to play the ncaa tourney game and rep the best you can. Again good luck guys, we are all pulling for you.
Way to nail it Nova!
Cheered for you guys all day today. Very strong showing.
It's now time for X to deliver two teams into the S16 and for that to result in a 6-3 overall BE Tournament record as we go into next weekend.
Xuperman
03-20-2016, 05:56 PM
Nope, I am X blue. How many saw Orlando Woolridge and Notre Dame play X at Schmidt? Or travel to Evansville to see X and Hicks win a championship? Nope, no troll. Just a lifelong fan worried a bit about the Big 5 conference monopoly. I haven't been on this site long, but some of you all seem a bit naive and pollyanne-ish. XU is hitched to the BE wagon with no where else to go. W/o NCAA tourney success, the BE is an egg timer from a party joke. Must beat Wisconsin. Go X!!!!
Xuperman
03-20-2016, 06:14 PM
I am not a XU alum. Some of these sites are over run with uppity alumni, ex Frat boys...I bought season tickets at the Gardens, early 80's, called "end zone" for $35......nuff said..
Kahns Krazy
03-20-2016, 06:18 PM
Nope, I am X blue. How many saw Orlando Woolridge and Notre Dame play X at Schmidt? Or travel to Evansville to see X and Hicks win a championship? Nope, no troll. Just a lifelong fan worried a bit about the Big 5 conference monopoly. I haven't been on this site long, but some of you all seem a bit naive and pollyanne-ish. XU is hitched to the BE wagon with no where else to go. W/o NCAA tourney success, the BE is an egg timer from a party joke. Must beat Wisconsin. Go X!!!!
"Egg timer from a party joke." I give you one point for originality, and deduct one point for making no sense at all.
March success for the conference is beneficial for the conference. I will continue to root for the conference in March. Am I worried that the reputation of the conference is "hanging by a thread"? Nope, not even close. It was nice to see Nova shake off some recent early exits. Seton Hall was one of 32 teams that lost in the first round, and by no means the only one to lose to a lower seed.
......nuff said..
Promise?
Xuperman
03-20-2016, 06:33 PM
No, this site needs more non-frat perspective. Go X
No, this site needs more non-frat perspective.
I'm sure as the big X fan you are, you're aware that Xavier has no frats. I'll move on now.
xukeith
03-20-2016, 06:41 PM
I'm sure as the big X fan you are that Xavier has no frats. I'll move on now.
Delta Sigma Pi
Business fraternity
RealDeal
03-20-2016, 06:41 PM
No, this site needs more non-frat perspective. Go X
No frats at X.
XUFan09
03-20-2016, 06:42 PM
Frat perspective? Lol
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RealDeal
03-20-2016, 06:42 PM
Delta Sigma Pi
Business fraternity
Not a real frat.
Xuperman
03-20-2016, 06:43 PM
No Frats? Shows what I know. Now I have really been exposed.
No Frats? Shows what I know. Now I have really been exposed.
Exactly.
XUGRAD80
03-20-2016, 06:45 PM
I guess I don't really understand why someone would be overly worried about how the conference is viewed, or why they would want to waste any time thinking about it. Let's just worry about X winning the next game. When they do win, it won't be for the pride of the BE, or because they are thinking about how they have to uphold the rep of the BE, either. Why not let the teams that haven't made the tourney, or those that have and flamed out early worry about the "pride of the BE".
bleedXblue
03-20-2016, 06:49 PM
you're giving this guy exactly what he wants by responding to the posts. I don't get it
Xuperman
03-20-2016, 06:51 PM
Because D1 basketball is BIG busine$$. And in business, perception is reality. The Big East is our brand. Must beat Wiscy. I have to start the grill......Go X
Masterofreality
03-20-2016, 06:51 PM
.........How many saw Orlando Woolridge and Notre Dame play X at Schmidt?!!
Well, troll. That would be NOBODY. X never played ND at Schmidt when Woolridge was there. We didn't even play them at the Gardens. We played them at Riverfront Coliseum.
If you are going to fake fan hood, charlatan, the least you can do is get the facts straight.
you're giving this guy exactly what he wants by responding to the posts. I don't get it
Agreed. Not quite worth searching for the ignore feature, yet. Only because I'm feeling lazy.
BandAid
03-20-2016, 06:57 PM
The ACC hasn't beaten anyone higher than a nine seed. Just saying
MauriceX
03-20-2016, 07:06 PM
The ACC hasn't beaten anyone higher than a nine seed. Just saying
Ignoring the rest of this conversation, that is an interesting statistic in itself. They've only beaten teams that the committee deemed to be in the bottom half of the field. It'll be interesting to see how they stand up against higher competition in the coming rounds.
xudash
03-20-2016, 08:05 PM
Well, troll. That would be NOBODY. X never played ND at Schmidt when Woolridge was there. We didn't even play them at the Gardens. We played them at Riverfront Coliseum.
If you are going to fake fan hood, charlatan, the least you can do is get the facts straight.
Xuperman, what did a football coach from Moeller once do when ND came to town to play X at Riverfront?
paulxu
03-20-2016, 08:33 PM
I use to watch the Muskies in Schmidt. Orlando Woolridge was 6 at the time. I didn't see him there.
Xuperman
03-20-2016, 09:44 PM
Paulxu, Woolridge was 6 in 1965 so I guess you didn't see him. MOR, I just looked it up, Feb 20 1980, ND 85-XU 72 at SCHMIDT FIELDHOUSE. The Big O Woolridge would have been a Junior in '80 so maybe an apology after your crow soup. Go X!
paulxu
03-20-2016, 10:13 PM
The February 20th game in 1980 against ND was not played at Schmidt. It was played at the "RC", which may have been Riverfront Coliseum.
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