2016 Coaching Carousel

[GoMuskies]

Bruiser Flint is out at Drexel. Remember when he was the rising star at UMass? Yeah, me either.

[XUMIOH12]

he had a couple good seasons, but those were sandwiched in between a whole lot of mediorce to bad seasons.

[Masterofreality]

Another "success" recommended by John "Slimy" Calamari.

[X-band '01]

So far, only Drexel and UMBC have dismissed head coaches at the end of the year. UNLV and Wisconsin both have interim coaches in place, although Greg Gard is all but a shoo-in to get the full-time gig in the offseason.

[bleedXblue]

Some big jobs are going to open.......or, they should.

Memphis
Georgia Tech
Illinois?

[joe titan]

BC (and possible hire is Schmidty); some say Pitino too

[GIMMFD]

Some big jobs are going to open.......or, they should.

Memphis
Georgia Tech
Illinois?

What do you guys think will the biggest job opening? It seems all of the good ones are acccounted for at the moment. I don't think we see anything too crazy this carousel to be honest.

[Masterofreality]

Some big jobs are going to open.......or, they should.

Memphis
Georgia Tech
Illinois?

I doubt that Memphis will cut the cord on Pastner yet, although he abjectly sucks.
Is Bobo sick of Gregory's act yet? Maaaaaaaaaaayyyyybee.

[Blue Blooded-05]

What do you guys think will the biggest job opening? It seems all of the good ones are acccounted for at the moment. I don't think we see anything too crazy this carousel to be honest.

Famous last words. Someone will go to the NBA and set off the annual domino drama.

[Xavgrad08]

If Memphis were to fire Pastner there is a 10 million dollar buyout. Why in the world you would give Pastner that contract is beyond me. Travis Ford also has a big buyout, but I think Oklahoma State has to make a move. Ford is not a good coach. Georgia Tech will open up but that is a really tough job in the current ACC.

Only job that could open up that could shake things up is Louisville. Sounds like Pitino will be back, but nothing would surprise me.


http://www.commercialappeal.com/columnists/geoff-calkins/there-are-10-million-more-reasons-josh-pastners-job-may-be-safe-2d3c2e91-8040-581d-e053-0100007fc818-371068021.html

[XU 87]

Gregory is having his best year at G. Tech (18-13 and 8-10), but I doubt that's enough to save his job, particularly since Mike B is very familiar with his record at UD.

Boston College is a train wreck, but I think the coach has only been there two years. He came from Ohio U and was successful there. But when you lose every league game, that might be a good indicator that you're in over your head.

Groce got a vote of confidence from the new AD, for what that's worth.

[GoMuskies]

Kim Anderson might not get a third year at Mizzou.

[Snipe]

Louisville is the only potential vacancy that scares me.

[xu82]

Louisville is the only potential vacancy that scares me.

Long live the dirtbag!

[RoseyMuskie]

Despise Tom Crean, and not a fan of IU, but I'm happy IU had a respectable regular season.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Gregory is having his best year at G. Tech (18-13 and 8-10), but I doubt that's enough to save his job, particularly since Mike B is very familiar with his record at UD.

Boston College is a train wreck, but I think the coach has only been there two years. He came from Ohio U and was successful there. But when you lose every league game, that might be a good indicator that you're in over your head.

Groce got a vote of confidence from the new AD, for what that's worth.

2 things:
(1) It would be hilarious if Bobinski fired Gregory and hired Archie Miller.

(2) Count me in the group that wanted us to interview Groce after Miller left. Glad to say I was wrong. He can keep his white boards in Champaign.

[XU 87]

I just saw that Bruiser Flint never went to the NCAA's in 15 years at Drexel. That's remarkable to do that and keep your job that long.

Bruiser did win more than he lost at Drexel and went to the NIT a few times. But still......

[waggy]

If Pitino does leave Louisville, could he end up in the BE? St. John's or DePaul?

[MADXSTER]

The Louisville job will be the biggest job opening. If Mack gets coach of the year, he will be part of the tier 1 of coaches.

[XU 87]

2 things:
(1) It would be hilarious if Bobinski fired Gregory and hired Archie Miller.

(2) Count me in the group that wanted us to interview Groce after Miller left. Glad to say I was wrong. He can keep his white boards in Champaign.

I don't think Archie Miller would leave UD for G. Tech. I think he is waiting around for a top job, like Louisville.

I thought Groce was a good hire for Illinois, but he has struggled so far.

[Juice]

Some big jobs are going to open.......or, they should.

Memphis
Georgia Tech
Illinois?

Illinois' new AD Groce will be back after they canned their football coach.

[Juice]

I don't think Archie Miller would leave UD for G. Tech. I think he is waiting around for a top job, like Louisville.

I thought Groce was a good hire for Illinois, but he has struggled so far.

He got a verbal from this kid so maybe he can turn it around. http://www.scout.com/player/199262-damonte-williams?s=75

[D-West & PO-Z]

I don't think Archie Miller would leave UD for G. Tech. I think he is waiting around for a top job, like Louisville.

I thought Groce was a good hire for Illinois, but he has struggled so far.

Yeah Archie wouldnt take GT I agree.

[MauriceX]

So far, only Drexel and UMBC have dismissed head coaches at the end of the year. UNLV and Wisconsin both have interim coaches in place, although Greg Gard is all but a shoo-in to get the full-time gig in the offseason.

Greg Gard is now officially the full-time coach at Wisconsin. That didn't take long.

Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/wisconsin-removes-interim-tag-names-greg-gard-coach-000415036--spt.html).

[X-Men]

So far, only Drexel and UMBC have dismissed head coaches at the end of the year. UNLV and Wisconsin both have interim coaches in place, although Greg Gard is all but a shoo-in to get the full-time gig in the offseason.

Yup. Gard just got a 5 year deal.

[xavierj]

The Louisville job will be the biggest job opening. If Mack gets coach of the year, he will be part of the tier 1 of coaches.

Rick Pitino will be the louisville coach until he retires, at least 5 more years. He will be there until he retires. He must have some crazy pictures because he isnt going any where, any time soon.

[X-band '01]

Frank Haith could be in trouble at Tulsa if the NCAA rules that he was responsible for violations that occurred at Missouri.

[xubrew]

I don't think Louisville will open.

If it does open, I don't think they'll go after Chris Mack.

For those two reasons, I'm really not worried.

[GIMMFD]

I don't think Louisville will open.

If it does open, I don't think they'll go after Chris Mack.

For those two reasons, I'm really not worried.

Really? Who do you think they would go after instead? (Not asking aggressively, serious question) I think Mack would be ideal for Louisville to go after, his wife is from the area after all, and it's not THAT far from his home in Cincinnati, I could easily see them offering Mack, however, I just don't think Pitino is going to leave, I think he'll be there until he retires as well. So I do agree with the first point.

[Seven Eighths]

Really? Who do you think they would go after instead? (Not asking aggressively, serious question) I think Mack would be ideal for Louisville to go after, his wife is from the area after all, and it's not THAT far from his home in Cincinnati, I could easily see them offering Mack, however, I just don't think Pitino is going to leave, I think he'll be there until he retires as well. So I do agree with the first point.

How about Sean Miller?

[XUMIOH12]

How about Sean Miller?

that would be quite the surprising move.

[Muskie]

I just saw that Bruiser Flint never went to the NCAA's in 15 years at Drexel. That's remarkable to do that and keep your job that long.

Bruiser did win more than he lost at Drexel and went to the NIT a few times. But still......

I can't believe he was at Drexel for 15 years...

[Muskie]

Really? Who do you think they would go after instead? (Not asking aggressively, serious question) I think Mack would be ideal for Louisville to go after, his wife is from the area after all, and it's not THAT far from his home in Cincinnati, I could easily see them offering Mack, however, I just don't think Pitino is going to leave, I think he'll be there until he retires as well. So I do agree with the first point.

Is there anyone in the Crum coaching tree that would be welcomed? I know very little about people that have coached at Louisville in the past 5-10 years. Hey, maybe they take Richard Pitino?

[Seven Eighths]

that would be quite the surprising move.

Why? Louisville is a better job and better program. If Roy Williams can go from Kansas to UNC, I don't see why Miller couldn't go from Arizona to Louisville.

[Muskie]

Why? Louisville is a better job and better program. If Roy Williams can go from Kansas to UNC, I don't see why Miller couldn't go from Arizona to Louisville.

Out of curiosity, why do you think Louisville is better than Arizona?

[GoMuskies]

Is there anyone in the Crum coaching tree that would be welcomed? I know very little about people that have coached at Louisville in the past 5-10 years. Hey, maybe they take Richard Pitino?

Crum doesn't have a coaching tree.

[xu82]

Out of curiosity, why do you think Louisville is better than Arizona?

It's like going from a Lexus to a John Deere?

[Muskie]

Crum doesn't have a coaching tree.

That's kind of what I wondered. Maybe they could get Pervis Ellison?

[GoMuskies]

That's kind of what I wondered. Maybe they could get Pervis Ellison?

I'm sure they could get Perris Ellison. Not sure why they'd want him, but they could get him. They could realistically get pretty much any college coach they wanted (with a few obvious exceptions). I would certainly expect Sean Miller to be interested.

[Muskie]

I'm sure they could get Perris Ellison. Not sure why they'd want him, but they could get him. They could realistically get pretty much any college coach they wanted (with a few obvious exceptions). I would certainly expect Sean Miller to be interested.

I was kidding about Nervous Pervis. I suspect the list would be long of people interested in Louisville. Frankly I don't know if the fanbase would tolerate anyone but a "name" coach.

[GoMuskies]

Given that they've essentially had three coaches since the end of WW II, two of whom are in the Hall of Fame and the other who arguably should be, I'd think you're probably right on wanting a "name" coach.

[xubrew]

Really? Who do you think they would go after instead? (Not asking aggressively, serious question) I think Mack would be ideal for Louisville to go after, his wife is from the area after all, and it's not THAT far from his home in Cincinnati, I could easily see them offering Mack, however, I just don't think Pitino is going to leave, I think he'll be there until he retires as well. So I do agree with the first point.


Out of curiosity, why do you think Louisville is better than Arizona?

The head coach at Louisville will easily pull in more than $6 million total. Just the incentives and endorsement deals would surpass what most of them are making in salary and endorsement deals combined.

Lon Kruger at Oklahoma would be making twice what he makes now if he goes to Louisville. Sean Miller will be making almost twice as much. Mike Krzyzewski, Roy Williams, Bill Self, and Tom Izzo are out of the picture. Pretty much everyone else is fair game. I don't know if they'll want Sean Miller, but I think it's crazy to assume that him leaving Arizona for Louisville is out of the question if Louisville did want him. It's not crazy to assume that anyone would consider making a move that would double their salary.

I don't know how to explain Louisville and Kentucky basketball to normal people. The best way I can think to do it is like this. This message board is the diehard portion of the Xavier fanbase. Now, imagine an entire city that's just like this board. Our diehard is their average, and their diehard is on the lunatic fringe. I've lived in the deep south right in the heart of SEC country. Basketball at Louisville and Kentucky is bigger than football in the south. I know that most people that have never been there would not think that, but it's the truth. They're going to pay whatever they have to so they can get the person they want, and chances are it will be someone that's already considered a big time coach at a big time program.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Why? Louisville is a better job and better program. If Roy Williams can go from Kansas to UNC, I don't see why Miller couldn't go from Arizona to Louisville.

I'm not sure Louisville is better program currently, maybe marginally. And Roy Williams was going back to his alma mater.

Maybe Miller would want to get back to closer to the east coast but other than that I dont see that as anything but lateral.


Edit: If he will really be making double then I could obviously see that. I didnt know that would be the case.

[xubrew]

I'm not sure Louisville is better, maybe marginally. And Roy Williams was going back to his alma mater.

Maybe Miller would want to get back to closer to the east coast but other than that I dont see that as anything but lateral.

It depends on what's important to you. If money is important, then Louisville is close to twice as good as Arizona.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville is only better if you like bigger crowds, better facilities, better tradition and more money.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It depends on what's important to you. If money is important, then Louisville is close to twice as good as Arizona.

Yeah I edited my post. I didnt realize they would pay a coach double what Zona would. That is obviously a big factor.

[Muskie]

Louisville is only better if you like bigger crowds, better facilities, better tradition and more money.

Would Lousiville fans consider Mack a "name coach"? I'm not knocking Mack at all, just asking.

[GoMuskies]

Would Lousiville fans consider Mack a "name coach"? I'm not knocking Mack at all, just asking.

Probably not. Maybe in 3 weeks they would.

[Muskie]

I imagine Jim Crews will not survive at SLU either.

[Seven Eighths]

Mike Krzyzewski, Roy Williams, Bill Self, and Tom Izzo are out of the picture. Pretty much everyone else is fair game.

Assuming this is true, who are the next five biggest names Louisville might target?

I think Miller would be in that top five.

[GoMuskies]

Assuming this is true, who are the next five biggest names Louisville might target?

I think Miller would be in that top five.

Not sure. From the fans' perspective, from what I've seen they need to have Brad Stevens and Billy Donovan laugh at them to add a touch of humility to their lives and start the process for real.

[paulxu]

Basketball at Louisville and Kentucky is bigger than football in the south.

This is only true in Kentucky. If you think this is true in South Carolina or Alabama...well, no.
Now Kentucky? Yes. But look at their football program and you will understand why that would be.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I imagine Jim Crews will not survive at SLU either.

Geez lets hope not but I wouldnt be so sure.

[Muskie]

Geez lets hope not but I wouldnt be so sure.
One of the names floating around Billikens.com as a replacement? Pat Kelsey.

[xubrew]

Would Lousiville fans consider Mack a "name coach"? I'm not knocking Mack at all, just asking.

The Louisville FANS??

No, they would not consider Chris Mack to be a name coach, or even a good coach. In fact a few days ago there was a thread on this board linking a thread on the Louisville board talking about how Chris Mack was not a good coach. It either got deleted, or I just haven't found it again. But, no, they would not think of Mack as a good coach.

And before you ask how in the world that could be, just remember what I said earlier. These aren't normal people. In the last four years they've won it all, been to a Final Four, been to a Sweet Sixteen, and been to an Elite Eight. They're dissatisfied. In fact, since two of those seasons ended with tournament losses to Kentucky, they're super dissatisfied. Some actually wanted to get rid of Pitino.

[Muskie]

The Louisville FANS??

No, they would not consider Chris Mack to be a name coach, or even a good coach. In fact a few days ago there was a thread on this board linking a thread on the Louisville board talking about how Chris Mack was not a good coach. It either got deleted, or I just haven't found it again. But, no, they would not think of Mack as a good coach.

And before you ask how in the world that could be, just remember what I said earlier. These aren't normal people. In the last four years they've won it all, been to a Final Four, been to a Sweet Sixteen, and been to an Elite Eight. They're dissatisfied. In fact, since two of those seasons ended with tournament losses to Kentucky, they're super dissatisfied. Some actually wanted to get rid of Pitino.

Hence why they will have to pay a boatload of money to attract someone to go there?

[GoMuskies]

Hence why they will have to pay a boatload of money to attract someone to go there?

Again, they've had 3 coaches in 72 years (plus one who got sick). This notion that Louisville is a tough place to coach and your job is constantly in jeopardy is just silly. They'll pay someone a boatload of money because that's what you do when you want to attract the best candidate.

[xubrew]

Hence why they will have to pay a boatload of money to attract someone to go there?

I think a lot of coaches would love to be there even if they only paid about $2 million. Lots of up-and-comers would love that. It's just that Louisville can pay three times that, and they don't want an up-and-comer. They want an already-is, and they're going to pay that much to get who they want.

I haven't heard any rumors so this is just speculating, but these are the kinds of coaches they would want...

Lon Kruger
Brad Stevens - (I don't think he'd go there, but they would try to get him)
Billy Donovon
Larry Krystkowiak - although I think they'd even believe him to not be good enough

They're going to want someone who's been with the NBA in some capacity, and that's won BIG TIME at the college level.

[xubrew]

Incidentally, everyone freaks out when we learn our coach is being talked about as a candidate. Are we also equally perturbed if we learn that a big time program is not interested in our coach?? Are we only happy when big time programs want our coach, and our coach says "no thanks"?

We should be happy that Louisville wouldn't want Chris Mack. Shouldn't we??

[LA Muskie]

Rick supposedly makes $5mm/yr with a retention bonus paid every 3 years; the next installment -- $750k -- is due 7/1/17 (http://collegebasketball.ap.org/article/louisville-extends-rick-pitinos-contract-2025-26-season). So confirming Brew's comment, considering his perks I'm sure his annual comp approaches or exceeds $6mm.

I have a slightly harder time believing that they would pay someone new what they already pay Rick. I think they would pay very, very well. But I don't think they will pay someone at or above how they are already compensating Rick.

And I think that's important to consider. Because I think that would disqualify Stevens and Donovan (if they otherwise would be interested, and I don't think they would). I also tend to think it would diminish the likelihood that Sean Miller would be interested (although I think he would leverage their interest in him into a raise -- as well he should).


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[Masterofreality]

Again, they've had 3 coaches in 72 years (plus one who got sick). This notion that Louisville is a tough place to coach and your job is constantly in jeopardy is just silly. They'll pay someone a boatload of money because that's what you do when you want to attract the best candidate.

I agree with this, but UofL's fan base has gotten a lot more hubris laden and uppity over the past few years. Tom Jurich has done with that entire University athletic program is what SucKS wishes they could have done. In the last 20 years they moved from The Metro to the ACC with big time football that would have been unthinkable in the state of Kentucky before 1990. Hell, I remember going to old Fairgrounds Stadium before it was ever expanded to add seats for UofL football.

Basketball was always the King in Cardinal-land all the way back to Peck Hickman. Then Denny Crum won a National Title and everything changed. All the young whippersnappers, who are social media oriented and don't know life past 1985 will expect that Jeezuz Christ himself would walk across on the Ohio River to coach UofL. Tom Jurich is a smart guy, however, and he'll hire the right guy, whoever it is.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville wasn't in the Great Midwest. The Great Midwest was formed to get away from Louisville's dominance of the Metro. Louisville kept all their own TV money and NCAA money in the Metro. Pretty sweet deal, but not surprisingly everyone else got fed up with it. It was so bad that Cincinnati and Memphis actually chose to move to a conference with Dayton instead of one with Louisville. Dayton for god's sake!

And I hope Dayton's enjoying their comeuppance for leaving Xavier in the MCC back in the day.

[LA Muskie]

Incidentally, everyone freaks out when we learn our coach is being talked about as a candidate. Are we also equally perturbed if we learn that a big time program is not interested in our coach?? Are we only happy when big time programs want our coach, and our coach says "no thanks"?

We should be happy that Louisville wouldn't want Chris Mack. Shouldn't we??

The fanatics might not want him. But I'm not convinced Jurich wouldn't. Chris may not be at the top of his wish list, but I don't think they will get the coaches at the top of their wish list.

I think Chris would be in the second wave -- the wave of younger, "non names" with significant, demonstrated success who are on a clear, pronounced and consistent upward trajectory. Add in regional recruiting contacts, local connections, etc. and I think he may well be their NBA (next best alternative) after they realize they won't get anyone in their first wave.

As for Chris, I don't know how he would turn that down. Even if the program is currently marred by the stench of Pitino, the reality is that it's a storied program near home and once Pitino is removed from the mix it has all the makings of a blue blood program (if it's not already).

Finally, I like that our coaches are in demand. I'd be much more concerned about the state of our program if they weren't.


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[Masterofreality]

Louisville wasn't in the Great Midwest. The Great Midwest was formed to get away from Louisville's dominance of the Metro. Louisville kept all their own TV money and NCAA money in the Metro. Pretty sweet deal, but not surprisingly everyone else got fed up with it. It was so bad that Cincinnati and Memphis actually chose to move to a conference with Dayton instead of one with Louisville. Dayton for god's sake!

And I hope Dayton's enjoying their comeuppance for leaving Xavier in the MCC back in the day.

You are correct Sir! My bad. I meant Metro, but my brain typed Great Midwest.

And hilarious that those schools totally dissed the Cryers for Convict USA, but took DePaul. The bloated self importance of the VDump folks is comical.

[xubrew]

Rick supposedly makes $5mm/yr with a retention bonus paid every 3 years; the next installment -- $750k -- is due 7/1/17 (http://collegebasketball.ap.org/article/louisville-extends-rick-pitinos-contract-2025-26-season). So confirming Brew's comment, considering his perks I'm sure his annual comp approaches or exceeds $6mm.

I have a slightly harder time believing that they would pay someone new what they already pay Rick. I think they would pay very, very well. But I don't think they will pay someone at or above how they are already compensating Rick.

And I think that's important to consider. Because I think that would disqualify Stevens and Donovan (if they otherwise would be interested, and I don't think they would). I also tend to think it would diminish the likelihood that Sean Miller would be interested (although I think he would leverage their interest in him into a raise -- as well he should).


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This is a very reasonable thing to suppose. But, here is why I think otherwise....

If you're the AD at Louisville, and you hire a coach that goes to three straight Sweet Sixteens and finishes in the top twenty, the fans will probably be yelling that the coach be fired (ESPECIALLY if Kentucky is doing better).

if you get rid of that coach, and hire a second coach, and their success level is the same, then fans will want the coach fired and they'll want YOU fired.

So, if you have the option of spending that kind of money to get the big name coach that is already successful, isn't that the "safest" course of action from a selfish standpoint?? Even if that coach only manages to finish in the top twenty three years in a row, you can at least all back on the fact that he was a big-name-home-run hire.

Again, I grew up in Louisville. I didn't realize how crazy it was until I left. I don't know how to explain it to people that have never lived there. I don't mean that in a good way either. They want Final Fours more than half the time, and they'll spend the money that they have to in order to keep the fan base from burning their houses down.

[xubrew]

Incidentally, beating Louisville in the 2004 NCAA Tournament made me so happy. I think I enjoyed that more than any other game we won. It may be my personal favorite win of all time for reasons that are entirely selfish. I have that game on DVD. I haven't watched it in years. Tonight might be a good night to watch it again.

[paulxu]

This notion that Louisville is a tough place to coach and your job is constantly in jeopardy is just silly.

Boy, they sure try to prove you right with restaurant meetings and private dancers.

[GIMMFD]

Very confused why Lon Kruger is considered an elite coach, one Final Four, which was in 93, and only 2 sweet 16s in the past 2 decades, come on, Mack has done better than that this millenium.. and well, he didn't do very well with Atlanta. Is it because he's turning Oklahoma into a consistent team as of late?

[xubrew]

Very confused why Lon Kruger is considered an elite coach, one Final Four, which was in 93, and only 2 sweet 16s in the past 2 decades, come on, Mack has done better than that this millenium.. and well, he didn't do very well with Atlanta. Is it because he's turning Oklahoma into a consistent team as of late?

He's hot now, and he's been in the NBA. I don't know for certain that they would want him, but I'm guessing that they would for those reasons.

I would advise not trying to rationalize what Louisville thinks and does, because it is a combination of mind boggling and confusing. I don't know how else to put it. They think we're small time. I'm not saying they're right. I'm just saying I think that they think that we are. I for one am fine with them thinking that.

All of this is pointless because I don't think Pitino is leaving, but I guess it's fun to discuss nonetheless.

[D-West & PO-Z]

One of the names floating around Billikens.com as a replacement? Pat Kelsey.

Yeah I saw that. I just started looking over there and another name I saw was Bruce Weber if he is fired at K-State. Why any of them would want an old retread fired Bruce Weber is beyond me. They need an hungry up and comer from the lower mid majors who has had a lot of success.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Incidentally, everyone freaks out when we learn our coach is being talked about as a candidate. Are we also equally perturbed if we learn that a big time program is not interested in our coach?? Are we only happy when big time programs want our coach, and our coach says "no thanks"?

We should be happy that Louisville wouldn't want Chris Mack. Shouldn't we??

Yes and I am.

[JTG]

Out of curiosity, why do you think Louisville is better than Arizona?
Because basketball is much more important at Louisville than at Arizona.

[XUFan09]

Yeah I saw that. I just started looking over there and another name I saw was Bruce Weber if he is fired at K-State. Why any of them would want an old retread fired Bruce Weber is beyond me. They need an hungry up and comer from the lower mid majors who has had a lot of success.
Please no Bruce Weber...

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[xubrew]

I have created the following mathematical flow chart to quantify the effectiveness of the following coaches. I hope all of you find this helpful....

Jim Crews < Magic 8 Ball < Bruce Weber < Pat Kelsey

[Masterofreality]

I have created the following mathematical flow chart to quantify the effectiveness of the following coaches. I hope all of you find this helpful....

Jim Crews < Magic 8 Ball < Bruce Weber < Pat Kelsey

I'm not sure I can follow that. I graduated from Xavier in Industrial Relations.

[xubrew]

I'm not sure I can follow that. I graduated from Xavier in Industrial Relations.

Jim Crews really sucks. Having a magic 8 ball would be better.

Bruce Weber is better than a magic 8 ball most of the time, but not always.

Pat Kelsey is better than all of them.

Come to think of it, that is very faint praise for a coach that I both like and think is a good coach. My apologies to Kelsey.

[GoMuskies]

I'm not sure I can follow that. I graduated from Xavier in Industrial Relations.

It means that Jim Crews blows and Bruce Webber sucks. They're quite a pair.

[muskiefan82]

It means that Jim Crews blows and Bruce Webber sucks. They're quite a pair.

Sounds like Mega Maid2011

[Masterofreality]

Jim Crews really sucks. Having a magic 8 ball would be better.

Bruce Weber is better than a magic 8 ball most of the time, but not always.

Pat Kelsey is better than all of them.

Come to think of it, that is very faint praise for a coach that I both like and think is a good coach. My apologies to Kelsey.


It means that Jim Crews blows and Bruce Webber sucks. They're quite a pair.

I know. My sarcasm font was as broken as SucKS basketball program.

[GIMMFD]

He's hot now, and he's been in the NBA. I don't know for certain that they would want him, but I'm guessing that they would for those reasons.

I would advise not trying to rationalize what Louisville thinks and does, because it is a combination of mind boggling and confusing. I don't know how else to put it. They think we're small time. I'm not saying they're right. I'm just saying I think that they think that we are. I for one am fine with them thinking that.

All of this is pointless because I don't think Pitino is leaving, but I guess it's fun to discuss nonetheless.

I agree, I don't think Pitino is leaving either and it is fun to discuss. But yeah, rationally, I would not have a 63 year old Lon Kruger as a replacement, but hell I don't understand the L1C4 culture anyways.

Also, I would love to see Pat Kelsey at St. Louis, I think that's a job he could thrive at, he could build them into a contender in the A10 quite easily. He's young, he's energetic, had Xavier ties, it would be a interesting move for them. Much better than a washed up Bruce Webber who had 3 NBA players to make him look good once upon a time...

[JTG]

I'm not sure I can follow that. I graduated from Xavier in Industrial Relations.

Is Industrial Relations sex with a piece of machinery ?

[X-band '01]

Is Industrial Relations sex with a piece of machinery ?

That's how DC Muskie got dick rust.

[JTG]

That's how DC Muskie got dick rust.

I think you can get rid of that with a belt sander:jawdrop:

[XUFan09]

That's how DC Muskie got dick rust.
I was in line to buy something and read this right before it was my turn to check out. It took a supreme effort to contain myself.

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[XUFan09]

By the way, I know from a recent discussion that DC Muskie still lives and he came to the Georgetown game, but we need to get him back on this board. Maybe someone should start a thread about how Miami is still a rival. That will bring him back.

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[sirthought]

I bet Louisville could get Billy Gillespie! That would be a twist on the UK > UofL coaching switch. Maybe Tubby Smith?

I'd suppose they'd look at a former Pitino assistant who moved on with some success. Even if Pitino steps down, he will have strong influence. If he's forced out (which he should be, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen) then I'd guess the AD would be as well, and that changes everything.





Louisville is not a BETTER job than Arizona. Just as good. Arizona has all the facility and resource perks any top notch coach would want. The school has almost double the student population of Louisville, so between that and their alumni base resources come with the territory. Plus, while the Pac 12 is currently one of the hottest leagues (no small thing in this), I'd say there is much less of a negative culture when you lose there than if you have a down year in the ACC, which is great, but still overhyped to several degrees.

The main advantage I guess I could see Miller jumping from a program he has running well to a new school is that it's closer to his childhood home base and the ACC has a slight jump on recruiting help with all the media love on the east coast. Those aren't small, but I don't see him moving.

XUBrew -- my guess looking at your 6K posts here and the fact you comment multiple times on nearly EVERY post on this board is that the city of Louisville isn't the basketball fan freak in this mix. Or no more so than Tuscon.

[xu82]

I was in line to buy something and read this right before it was my turn to check out. It took a supreme effort to contain myself.

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I hope it wasn't a belt sander!

[xu82]

If Louisville is a better job than Arizona, it's doesn't have to be because they have deeper pockets, but because it's more important to them. Kentucky takes their college hoops very seriously. Not saying Arizona doesn't, but my gut tells me Arizona has more well rounded interests. There's a reason LA can't sustain an NFL team while Cleveland and Buffalo froth over theirs. What's really important to them?

[XUFan09]

I hope it wasn't a belt sander!
Shh! Don't tell the wife!

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[Xville]

I live in louisville currently and grew up in Saint louis, so I am an outsider. People here really love their basketball and the louisville-Kentucky rivalry is extremely annoying to those that could really care less like myself (though I married a louisville fan).

Anyways, mack has been mentioned in passing on the radio a couple of times in the last few weeks. However, it's typically been after about 5 other coaches have been mentioned. I'd be shocked if Pitino goes anywhere. The guy is absolute Teflon and is revered here. Shockingly I think he survives this...frankly I don't think any other coach would.

Now if by chance he doesn't survive this, the only way mack gets serious consideration is if he takes us to at least the final four. Most louisville people still don't know who the heck he is, and that's not gonna fly here.

[xu82]

Shh! Don't tell the wife!


I'm afraid there could be a very awkward AHH HA! moment. At best.

[xubrew]

XUBrew -- my guess looking at your 6K posts here and the fact you comment multiple times on nearly EVERY post on this board is that the city of Louisville isn't the basketball fan freak in this mix. Or no more so than Tuscon.


Huh?? Let me make sure I understand you. My post count has led you to the conclude that Louisville fans aren't freaks. Not sure what the correlation is there. That's kind of like saying looking at the number of street lights, the people in that town must really like hockey.

I'm not the only one that's making that claim. Others who have lived in Louisville seem to agree about their fans.

[GIMMFD]

I live in louisville currently and grew up in Saint louis, so I am an outsider. People here really love their basketball and the louisville-Kentucky rivalry is extremely annoying to those that could really care less like myself (though I married a louisville fan).

Anyways, mack has been mentioned in passing on the radio a couple of times in the last few weeks. However, it's typically been after about 5 other coaches have been mentioned. I'd be shocked if Pitino goes anywhere. The guy is absolute Teflon and is revered here. Shockingly I think he survives this...frankly I don't think any other coach would.

Now if by chance he doesn't survive this, the only way mack gets serious consideration is if he takes us to at least the final four. Most louisville people still don't know who the heck he is, and that's not gonna fly here.

Any other interesting coaching names being brought up? Is everyone right about the whole Sean Miller boner that we have going on in this thread right now?

[Xville]

Any other interesting coaching names being brought up? Is everyone right about the whole Sean Miller boner that we have going on in this thread right now?

I haven't heard miller's name come up once, who knows if he would be interested or not. From my perspective, I would say louisville is a better job but who knows what he thinks.

Anyways the first names that always come up are Brad stevens and billy donovan. After that, no one really knows...people mention pitino's coaching tree like Willard or Cronin but those guys aren't being asked. I'd think louisville's list would be pretty short...I don't think a lot of guys would pass it up. As others have mentioned here, louisville loves their basketball, they have top of the line facilities and huge coffers.

[xavierj]

I haven't heard miller's name come up once, who knows if he would be interested or not. From my perspective, I would say louisville is a better job but who knows what he thinks.

Anyways the first names that always come up are Brad stevens and billy donovan. After that, no one really knows...people mention pitino's coaching tree like Willard or Cronin but those guys aren't being asked. I'd think louisville's list would be pretty short...I don't think a lot of guys would pass it up. As others have mentioned here, louisville loves their basketball, they have top of the line facilities and huge coffers.

Does any one think slick Rick is going any where, any time soon? This seems pointless. He will be at the Ville until he doesn't not want to be, which will be retirement.

[LA Muskie]

I haven't heard miller's name come up once, who knows if he would be interested or not. From my perspective, I would say louisville is a better job but who knows what he thinks.

Anyways the first names that always come up are Brad stevens and billy donovan. After that, no one really knows...people mention pitino's coaching tree like Willard or Cronin but those guys aren't being asked. I'd think louisville's list would be pretty short...I don't think a lot of guys would pass it up. As others have mentioned here, louisville loves their basketball, they have top of the line facilities and huge coffers.

All I hear are Stevens and Donovan as well. Which is interesting since I can't fathom either leaving their current gigs. If anything, Stevens has been TOO successful in Boston. And I can't imagine Donovan jumping ship yet (if ever).


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[bleedXblue]

Louisville is a Top 10 job and they will go after a BIG name guy. They can pay NBA money. I do not think Mack will even get a sniff....even though he is deserving.

As we all know, its not the number of jobs that come open......it's the one or two big job's that cause the domino effect. I don't think Pitino is ready yet and think he has another 2-3 years.

[Xavgrad08]

Article about Brian Gregory's future. I forgot that they are still paying Paul Hewitt. The gift that keeps on giving.

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/decision-awaits-georgia-tech-on-brian-gregory/nqgYW/

[GIMMFD]

Article about Brian Gregory's future. I forgot that they are still paying Paul Hewitt. The gift that keeps on giving.

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/decision-awaits-georgia-tech-on-brian-gregory/nqgYW/

GT is an absolute dumpster fire, can't believe Brian Gregory is there, and they're going to pull a miraculous win over Clemson and possibly save them.

[Muskie]

Looks like Travis Ford may be on the way out at Oklahoma State...

[Masterofreality]

Looks like Travis Ford may be on the way out at Oklahoma State...

And a name mentioned????

Buzz Williams.

[JTG]

And a name mentioned????

Buzz Williams.

Mr. "I'll go anywhere for a fat paycheck"

[Cheesehead]

And a name mentioned????

Buzz Williams.

I could see Buzz doing this because of the manner in which he left Marquette. I am not sure he is "aw shucks" guy he leads on to be. I saw the national anthem thing he did with his team and good for him but no need to have cameras there if it is not all about himself.

[GIMMFD]

I could see Buzz doing this because of the manner in which he left Marquette. I am not sure he is "aw shucks" guy he leads on to be. I saw the national anthem thing he did with his team and good for him but no need to have cameras there if it is not all about himself.

I hate Buzz Williams with a fiery passion. Everything about him screams "I'm an egotistical douche", I will never forgive him for dancing on the Flying WV logo while Country Roads was playing, or coming out to Country Roads during Marquette's madness event. He does things to irritate the piss out of you, and honestly, I don't consider him that great of a coach. I hope he goes to Oklahoma State so WVU can beat the hell out of him twice a year. Sorry to rant, but man I DO NOT like the guy at all.

[bleedXblue]

Where is he now? Seriously......I have no idea.

[Masterofreality]

Where is he now? Seriously......I have no idea.

Virginia Tech. Carpetbagger

[muskiefan82]

Virginia Tech. Carpetbagger

Virginia Tech. Oklahoma St. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

[Xville]

I hope JT3 is on his way out the door...we don't need a terrible coach at what should be one of the best programs in the Big East.

[GIMMFD]

I hope JT3 is on his way out the door...we don't need a terrible coach at what should be one of the best programs in the Big East.

Yeah, JT3 has no coaching prowess, I would be shocked if this is allowed to continue for much longer. The thing is, it would be even more interesting to see who Georgetown goes after, they haven't been as relevant as they have been in the past, but it's still a great job, do they go for an upon-comer, or a relatively well established coach? Obviously the big guns (such as everyone's favorite Sean Miller) is out of the question, or even Greg Marshall I think would be out of the question, but I could also see him consider it. Who knows.

[MauriceX]

Yeah, JT3 has no coaching prowess, I would be shocked if this is allowed to continue for much longer. The thing is, it would be even more interesting to see who Georgetown goes after, they haven't been as relevant as they have been in the past, but it's still a great job, do they go for an upon-comer, or a relatively well established coach? Obviously the big guns (such as everyone's favorite Sean Miller) is out of the question, or even Greg Marshall I think would be out of the question, but I could also see him consider it. Who knows.

Talked to some Georgetown alums this past week. They all agree that he needs to go, but think he will stay at least one more year, possibly two, before the power of the last name runs out. Not that they have any insider info or anything. That is just their opinion.

[X-band '01]

Saint Louis, your Jim Crews nightmare is over.

[xubrew]

Saint Louis, your Jim Crews nightmare is over.

They didn't waste any time. I mean, they could have at least waited until tomorrow when the team got home.

[joe titan]

Stated earlier Pat Kelsey ? But why not Darnell Williams ?

[bleedXblue]

Stated earlier Pat Kelsey ? But why not Darnell Williams ?

Darnell? Doesn't he have only one year of head coaching experience at a pretty low level program?

St Louis will get themselves a pretty good young coach. Kelsey is still another year away IMHO.

[Masterofreality]

Saint Louis, your Jim Crews nightmare is over.

Public reps since the Digital Dominatrix has me in shackles.

Think CMack will call his old coach and offer him a job????..


Nah. I didn't think so either.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Saint Louis, your Jim Crews nightmare is over.

Thank God.

[xubrew]

I know he's at his alma mater, but Bryce Drew is a good coach and I think he and SLU could both be good for each other.

Matt Driscoll at North Florida is another guy that I think is really good.

[waggy]

Majerus had it sooo close.

[bleedXblue]

Majerus had it sooo close.

that was fools gold and everyone knew it.

[D-West & PO-Z]

that was fools gold and everyone knew it.

No it really wasnt. If Majerus were still there SLU would still be a very good basketball team. Coaching in college basketball is so huge. Majerus was one of the best.

[bleedXblue]

No it really wasnt. If Majerus were still there SLU would still be a very good basketball team. Coaching in college basketball is so huge. Majerus was one of the best.

No....everyone knew his health was poor for many years....everyone. It was just a matter of time.

[D-West & PO-Z]

No....everyone knew his health was poor for many years....everyone. It was just a matter of time.

Obviously people knew his health was not great but there was nothing not completely authentic about what he had going at SLU. And people were not expecting him to die at any time. No one thought he would be there for decades but I think people thought when he left it would be able to be a planned event for the most part, not a sudden departure out of nowhere. That is what caused SLU to turn into a mess so quickly. People really respected how Crews handled the situation and kept those players in the game and had really good results. Because of that I think they felt obligated to hire him. Obviously that was a mistake.

Get a good motivated coach at SLU and they will be just fine sooner than later. Too many positives there, just need the right leader.

[XUFan09]

Yeah, Majerus was setting up SLU to be a good job whenever he retired. They would have been able to hire a solid replacement coach if circumstances had ended normally.

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[STL_XUfan]

Yeah, Majerus was setting up SLU to be a good job whenever he retired. They would have been able to hire a solid replacement coach if circumstances had ended normally.

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as shown by the fools gold that was Crews' year as the interim coach.

[STL_XUfan]

I am starting to believe there is a requirement that sports journalist must mention the names Chris Mack and Archie Miller for every job opening, even if just to dismiss them as options. Exhibit A:

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/tipsheet-slu-explores-interesting-coaching-market/article_45cd710b-b0d9-500a-ae65-673953a5b005.html (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/tipsheet-slu-explores-interesting-coaching-market/article_45cd710b-b0d9-500a-ae65-673953a5b005.html)

[bleedXblue]

I am starting to believe there is a requirement that sports journalist must mention the names Chris Mack and Archie Miller for every job opening, even if just to dismiss them as options. Exhibit A:

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/tipsheet-slu-explores-interesting-coaching-market/article_45cd710b-b0d9-500a-ae65-673953a5b005.html (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/tipsheet-slu-explores-interesting-coaching-market/article_45cd710b-b0d9-500a-ae65-673953a5b005.html)

Mack already has a prime power conference job. You can tell me X isn't a Top 20 program job........now, we have to pay him for it....

[GIMMFD]

I am starting to believe there is a requirement that sports journalist must mention the names Chris Mack and Archie Miller for every job opening, even if just to dismiss them as options. Exhibit A:

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/tipsheet-slu-explores-interesting-coaching-market/article_45cd710b-b0d9-500a-ae65-673953a5b005.html (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/jeff-gordon/tipsheet-slu-explores-interesting-coaching-market/article_45cd710b-b0d9-500a-ae65-673953a5b005.html)

Dear god, if SLU even remotely thinks that they could take Mack away they are delirious. That's a major step down right now.

[Xville]

Mack already has a prime power conference job. You can tell me X isn't a Top 20 program job........now, we have to pay him for it....

I think they are talking top 10 program in the country. Louisville, Kentucky, Kansas, UNC., Michigan State, Duke etc. If one of those comes open, they should take a hard look at him, and if he would ever leave for one of them (not saying he would but just saying), I wouldn't fault him.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Dear god, if SLU even remotely thinks that they could take Mack away they are delirious. That's a major step down right now.

No that isnt what it said.

[Masterofreality]

Mack already has a prime power conference job. You can tell me X isn't a Top 20 program job........now, we have to pay him for it....

Yeah, what exactly IS a prime power conference job? And yes, the man deserves to get paid more.
Again, however, the value that he places on family time besides his coaching time, makes money less valuable. I'd just like for us to be able to get up up to around the $2 million/year mark from his present $1.5 all in.

[Xavgrad08]

Stanford has parted ways with Johnny Dawkins.

[Lloyd Braun]

Donlon fired (http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/sports/college/chris-mack-on-firing-of-billy-donlon-thats-ridicul/nqnRN/?icmp=mydaytondaily_internallink_megamenu_link)

[GIMMFD]

Donlon fired (http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/sports/college/chris-mack-on-firing-of-billy-donlon-thats-ridicul/nqnRN/?icmp=mydaytondaily_internallink_megamenu_link)

Mack has a point. "I don't know who Wright State is trying to be, or pretending to be."

[bleedXblue]

Yeah, what exactly IS a prime power conference job? And yes, the man deserves to get paid more.
Again, however, the value that he places on family time besides his coaching time, makes money less valuable. I'd just like for us to be able to get up up to around the $2 million/year mark from his present $1.5 all in.

We finally agree on something :)

[Masterofreality]

Ray Harper has resigned at Western KY. Travis Steele's name mentioned as a possibility.

Two head coaches of Xavier opponents in 2015-2016 are now on the street. Lesson here? : Don't play Xavier if you know what's good for you.

[Muskie]

Ray Harper has resigned at Western KY. Travis Steele's name mentioned as a possibility.

Two head coaches of Xavier opponents in 2015-2016 are now on the street. Lesson here? : Don't play Xavier if you know what's good for you.

Maybe they can get Darrin Horn back? He's an assistant with Shaka. Remember when he was Xs next coach?


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[X-band '01]

Yes I do.

Let us never speak of that again.

[Snipe]

No....everyone knew his health was poor for many years....everyone. It was just a matter of time.

It is just a matter of time for all of us. And yes Majerus was a walking heat attack, he was also one of the finest coaches in the nation. Had he coached another five years, I doubt the nation would have been shocked.

The man was obese beyond belief. I get that. He heath was poor from the first time I read about him. Great coach though, and he could have done wonders in STL with another five years. One of my favorite coaches and I read his book Complete slob for sure that lived in a hotel because he didn't want to make his bed or wash his clothes or cook his dinner. He interviewed at Utah and stayed in the Hotel, and then he said, why buy a house, can't I just stay at this hotel and live here? I think that is classic. The man had a singular focus.

[Snipe]

Obviously people knew his health was not great but there was nothing not completely authentic about what he had going at SLU. And people were not expecting him to die at any time. No one thought he would be there for decades but I think people thought when he left it would be able to be a planned event for the most part, not a sudden departure out of nowhere. That is what caused SLU to turn into a mess so quickly. People really respected how Crews handled the situation and kept those players in the game and had really good results. Because of that I think they felt obligated to hire him. Obviously that was a mistake.

Get a good motivated coach at SLU and they will be just fine sooner than later. Too many positives there, just need the right leader.

I wanted SLU instead of Creighton in the Big East, just for the road trip. You can't drive to Omaha. I might be driving to STL on Saturday if KFX is really going to buy me dinner and drinks.

I would also have taken them over Godless Butler, who is in our Catholic league. I don't know why we accept these pagans and treat them as equals.

[Snipe]

Mack already has a prime power conference job. You can tell me X isn't a Top 20 program job........now, we have to pay him for it....

We need to pay him at least 2 million to stop all this madness. I am not sure that they will do it. They didn't do it for anyone else.

Louisville comes calling and we are screwed. That is the only program I fear right now.

University Presidents don't like holding press conferences about buying prostitutes for the young recruits, some perhaps being minors.

In closed door meetings, I can't imagine what that guy says to the board. They could fire him for cause and open up his five million dollar contact to all bidders, and who might be coach of the year? You think Mack recruits well here? Give him the YUM Center.

Please keep Pitino in the YUM!

[Snipe]

Yeah, what exactly IS a prime power conference job? And yes, the man deserves to get paid more.
Again, however, the value that he places on family time besides his coaching time, makes money less valuable. I'd just like for us to be able to get up up to around the $2 million/year mark from his present $1.5 all in.

John Thompson and Jay Wright make around 3 mill a year, the last reports for Coach Mack are years old, but he was still making just under 1 million. Pay the man.

[GoMuskies]

Ray Harper has resigned at Western KY. Travis Steele's name mentioned as a possibility.


Steele and Kelsey should go begging for that job. Begging.

[bleedXblue]

We need to pay him at least 2 million to stop all this madness. I am not sure that they will do it. They didn't do it for anyone else.

Louisville comes calling and we are screwed. That is the only program I fear right now.

University Presidents don't like holding press conferences about buying prostitutes for the young recruits, some perhaps being minors.

In closed door meetings, I can't imagine what that guy says to the board. They could fire him for cause and open up his five million dollar contact to all bidders, and who might be coach of the year? You think Mack recruits well here? Give him the YUM Center.

Please keep Pitino in the YUM!

I'll go so far to say that not paying Mack and getting him close 2 MM, we will never have stability in the program. It doesn't matter that he may love it here. It doesn't matter that he's an X grad. Like all of us, we want to feel as though we are getting paid what we are worth. And worth isn't determined by the school or University. Its determined by the market. The market says that Mack is worth far more than he's being paid right now. Pay the man!!!

[Mrs. Garrett]

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2016-03-17/update-illinis-nunn-arrested-suspended.html

This could spell trouble for Groce despite the new AD's vote of confidence. 4th player arrested this season, 2 in about the past week.

[murray87]

So Home City Ice endowed the coaches salary, right? Any insight into how that works? Is there a big pot of money that can be tapped quickly to push Coach Mack to $2mill and beyond?

[MADXSTER]

John Thompson and Jay Wright make around 3 mill a year, the last reports for Coach Mack are years old, but he was still making just under 1 million. Pay the man.

Just keep in mind that the cost of living on the east coast is considerably more. Not saying a raise isn't in line but everything is relative. Also, John Thompson isn't a good comparision. Idicates just how overpaid the guy is as a head coach.

[Muskie]

I believe the endowment is to assist in the retention of assistant coaches as well. So all of that money is not earmarked for Mack? I could be totally wrong.

[blobfan]

I believe the endowment is to assist in the retention of assistant coaches as well. So all of that money is not earmarked for Mack? I could be totally wrong.

I do wonder, since it's from a separate fund, will it show up in salary reports for Mack?

[Muskie]

I don't think so. Again, I think it's a fund that can be used for bonuses and that sort of thing... not sure it's a salary component. I know there a few posters on here who are intimately familiar with how it works, but I don't know if they are at liberty to share.

[smileyy]

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2016-03-17/update-illinis-nunn-arrested-suspended.html

This could spell trouble for Groce despite the new AD's vote of confidence. 4th player arrested this season, 2 in about the past week.

The entire Illinois athletic department seems to be a tire fire right now.

[OTRMUSKIE]

My sources who are not reliable are saying Cal has told the NBA he wants 12 mil a year for 10 years. That's the only way he will leave UK. Sean Miller is rumored to take that job. The other rumor I got from a crappy source was Roy Wiliams will retire and Archie will get the job. Someone on here said UNC would never hire a NC ST guy.

[xu82]

My sources who are not reliable are saying Cal has told the NBA he wants 12 mil a year for 10 years. That's the only way he will leave UK. Sean Miller is rumored to take that job. The other rumor I got from a crappy source was Roy Wiliams will retire and Archie will get the job. Someone on here said UNC would never hire a NC ST guy.

Not reliable? I say trust the little voices in your head! I do.

Roy Williams seems to get a pass too often. It's odd, we are kind of UNC fans (our boys went to hoops camp there for years) and avid Duke haters (duh!). Roy seems to often under-achieve, but then he's also near the top of the heap quite often. Does he whiff on recruiting sometimes, or does he not get young kids up to speed quick enough at times? He confuses me.

[chico]

UNLV is interested in Cronin? Really?

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2016/03/20/report-unlv-interested-ucs-cronin/82046578/

[GoMuskies]

Someone on here said UNC would never hire a NC ST guy.

They won't. Certainly not THAT NC State guy.

[Bearcat_Bounce]

UNLV is interested in Cronin? Really?

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2016/03/20/report-unlv-interested-ucs-cronin/82046578/

Have him call me if he needs help packing.

[xu82]

Have him call me if he needs help packing.

Most people have trouble getting folks to take their calls when it's time to move. Volunteers make a statement!

His offense is offensive, so I get it.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Jamie Dixon to TCU.

[Masterofreality]

Jamie Dixon to TCU.

Oh, Archie..........Calling Archie!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GoMuskies]

Oh, Archie..........Calling Archie!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sean.....Calling Sean

[xavierj]

Sean.....Calling Sean

I have heard Sean is not ever going back to Pitt. Think some bad blood for some reason, not to mention Arizona is just a much, much better, higher paying job.

[kmcrawfo]

So Home City Ice endowed the coaches salary, right? Any insight into how that works? Is there a big pot of money that can be tapped quickly to push Coach Mack to $2mill and beyond?

Unfortunately, as generous as the sedler's gift was it was not a large enough sum to completely endow the head coach's salary at the level you are proposing. As far as I understand and as much as I am at liberty to say the endowed coaches gift allows us the ability be much more competitive with our assistant coach salaries while maintaining a slightly higher compensation package for Mack as well. Looking at it perhaps as allowinf A shifting of funds and allocations in some fashion would possibly make the most sense.

[XU 87]

Jamie Dixon to TCU.

Dixon must be on the hot seat at Pitt to take this job.

[GoMuskies]

Dixon must be on the hot seat at Pitt to take this job.

Just stale. He's also a TCU alum.

[GoMuskies]

I have heard Sean is not ever going back to Pitt. Think some bad blood for some reason, not to mention Arizona is just a much, much better, higher paying job.

I can understand if there is bad blood. As for money, there's no reason Pitt couldn't pay enough to make it worth Sean's while.

And MOR has made it clear that Amy hates the desert. :)

[GoMuskies]

Kevin Willard is another name that has come up for Pitt. Dad Ralph coached at Pitt, and Kevin transferred from WKU to finish his playing career at Pitt with his dad.

[XU-PA]

The biggest question is UofL. If people saying Pitino is out are right,,,, who's in?

[XU 87]

Kevin Willard is another name that has come up for Pitt. Dad Ralph coached at Pitt, and Kevin transferred from WKU to finish his playing career at Pitt with his dad.

Ralph got fired from Pitt, so I would think his son might be a tough sell.

[paulxu]

I could see Archie going to Pitt and Sean coming back to Louisville.
If they like the desert, I would worry about Louisville coming after Mack.

[GoMuskies]

I can't see Pitino going anywhere. Maybe he's delusional, but he was out recruiting a sophomore over the weekend (and I don't mean a college coed for a 15 second restaurant tryst).

[paulxu]

Are you sure about that last part?

[GoMuskies]

Are you sure about that last part?

Well, he could have ALSO been doing that, but that's not the sophomore I was talking about.

[XU 87]

I could see Archie going to Pitt and Sean coming back to Louisville.
If they like the desert, I would worry about Louisville coming after Mack.

I don't see Archie going to Pitt. I think he's waiting for a top 10 job.

[Xavier]

He really needs to leave soon. I think his stock took a hit this year. Plus, I'd assume other coaches will get a look at that before him (Mack, Marshall).

[xavierj]

He really needs to leave soon. I think his stock took a hit this year. Plus, I'd assume other coaches will get a look at that before him (Mack, Marshall).

Niether of which they have a prayer for though....Maybe Hurley from Rhode Island.

[Masterofreality]

And MOR has made it clear that Amy hates the desert. :)

Well, she hated leaving Cincinnati. I have no recent reports as to her current state of mind.

[Masterofreality]

Kevin Willard is another name that has come up for Pitt. Dad Ralph coached at Pitt, and Kevin transferred from WKU to finish his playing career at Pitt with his dad.

Yeah, that's not happening.

[Masterofreality]

I don't see Archie going to Pitt. I think he's waiting for a top 10 job.

He'll be waiting for a long time. He should jump while he's "hot" although finishing tied for first in a mid-major league and getting drilled by 19 from the 71 rated RPI team doesn't exactly scream "Top 10 job" He's had one miraculous run that wouldn't have happened A) without Jordan Seibert and B) if Aaron Craft could have finished a drive.

Gregg Marshall can demand a Top 10 job. Archie should grab the first solid job in a major conference, at a school that wants to build to win, as soon as possible.

[Xavier]

Niether of which they have a prayer for though....Maybe Hurley from Rhode Island.

I met that in regards to a that top 10 coaching job Archie is going to wait for, not the Pitt Job. I think the Pitt job is the type of move up Archie can expect.

[GIMMFD]

Pitt's not a terrible program, they have been trending downwards as of late.. Jamie Dixon went to his alma mater and got his salary doubled at the same time, so good move for him. I think Archie should seriously consider Pitt, great city, ACC affiliation, it's possible to win there. I don't think he gets the job he wants, he will have to settle eventually.

[Xville]

I could see Archie going to Pitt and Sean coming back to Louisville.
If they like the desert, I would worry about Louisville coming after Mack.

Louisville isn't going to want mack..sorry but what has mack done for a top 5 program to want him? I like mack but if he goes somewhere I'm not going to freak out. He's improved over the course of his career at xavier but he still has a ton to learn and he may or may not grow more who knows.

[Masterofreality]

Louisville isn't going to want mack..sorry but what has mack done for a top 5 program to want him? I like mack but if he goes somewhere I'm not going to freak out. He's improved over the course of his career at xavier but he still has a ton to learn and he may or may not grow more who knows.

I'll freak out because that means that all the relationships are trashed and you start all over recruiting. Enough with the job hopping out of here.

[Xville]

I'll freak out because that means that all the relationships are trashed and you start all over recruiting. Enough with the job hopping out of here.

So? Xavier was fine after Thad left, it was fine after Miller left, if mack leaves, it will again be fine. There are very few jobs out there that aren't job hopping jobs.

[AviatorX]

Louisville isn't going to want mack..sorry but what has mack done for a top 5 program to want him? I like mack but if he goes somewhere I'm not going to freak out. He's improved over the course of his career at xavier but he still has a ton to learn and he may or may not grow more who knows.

Who do you think Louisville would target? Mack is pretty high up the list when you think of high level coaches who may be willing to consider a move.

[xu82]

I'll freak out because that means that all the relationships are trashed and you start all over recruiting. Enough with the job hopping out of here.

We've been lucky with hires for a while now, and Bobo is gone from the process. Every hire brings the chance of a miss. Even if they DO find a good replacement, it's still a setback. Things are going great now in general (with the exception of a gut wrenching buzzer beater). Don't mess with it. To argue otherwise is silly.

[Xville]

Who do you think Louisville would target? Mack is pretty high up the list when you think of high level coaches who may be willing to consider a move.

Well, first calls would be Brad stevens and billy donovan. To those saying they wouldn't be interested are fooling themselves. Remember that neither one of them coached at a top 5 college program. It may ahve more allure than the nba to them who knows. Anyways after that, I'd think Gregg Marshall would get a call. I'd doubt that louisville would need to go farther down the list than these three. No way all three would turn down the job...hell it might not even get past 1.

[XU 87]

Who do you think Louisville would target?

Based on some of things I've read on this board about Louisville's high opinion of its program, I think it's down to Wooden, Naismith, and Hank Iba.

[chico]

Well that didn't take long. Brad Underwood is the new coach of Oklahoma State.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/big12/2016/03/21/brad-underwood-oklahoma-state/82099612/

[Masterofreality]

So? Xavier was fine after Thad left, it was fine after Miller left, if mack leaves, it will again be fine. There are very few jobs out there that aren't job hopping jobs.

So what do you call "fine"? After Beaknose left, the Raccoon went to no tournament in 2005 and was on the verge of missing again in 2006 until the run through the A10 Tourney- luckily played at Riverfront Coliseum and after Temple got upset in the first round by GW. After the Raccoon left and his players graduated a couple of years later, we had a severe shortage of players in 2013- in numbers and talent because CMack had to start all over and build back relationships. Now we finally have the pipeline refilled, but it took some Jay Cantys, Griffin Mackinzies and Chris Cantinos before it refilled.

You need continuity.

[xavierj]

So? Xavier was fine after Thad left, it was fine after Miller left, if mack leaves, it will again be fine. There are very few jobs out there that aren't job hopping jobs.

I hate this attitude. Eventually it will bite you in the ass. I am pretty confident if Sean never left, Xavier would have already made the final 4. Yeah its good that xavier has continued to win, but since the big east xavier is in its best position ever and Chris is involved with better recruits than ever. Continuity for a few more years and the skys the limit. Change coaches and expect a little step back like always. Remember when Thad left it took a few years to get back to where they were. Regardless, Louisville wont be open.

[xudash]

So what do you call "fine"? After Beaknose left, the Raccoon went to no tournament in 2005 and was on the verge of missing again in 2006 until the run through the A10 Tourney- luckily played at Riverfront Coliseum and after Temple got upset in the first round by GW. After the Raccoon left and his players graduated a couple of years later, we had a severe shortage of players in 2013- in numbers and talent because CMack had to start all over and build back relationships. Now we finally have the pipeline refilled, but it took some Jay Cantys, Griffin Mackinzies and Chris Cantinos before it refilled.

You need continuity.

Why this isn't abundantly obvious to everyone is beyond me.

The team he has assembled now.

The recruiting pipeline that matures and solidifies with each year a solid coach stays with his program.

The reduced risk a given recruit sees when he sees a coach that "is there" and appears to have no reason or inclination to be "somewhere else."

Besides, Chris has made himself into a proven commodity. The proverbial bird in the hand.

We've had stunning success at reloading our coaches. It is fair to assume that the Xavier job is one of the most attractive jobs in the business.

Personally, I have no desire to keep proving we can replace coaches with "ease."

There is no ease.

Xavier deserves its time to have its Mark Few, and that person is Chris Mack. Personally, I'm not worried about him leaving now. And comparing him to prior Xavier coaches isn't the same. The conference affiliation piece and the money piece have materially improved. No, we can't go toe-to-toe with big money players, but we'll just have to hope that there is more to the mix with Chris than the money, per se.

[XMuskieFTW]

Pay the man!

[Lloyd Braun]

What, no discussion on Mick interviewing with UNLV? Ok carry on.... Pay the man!

[GIMMFD]

What, no discussion on Mick interviewing with UNLV? Ok carry on.... Pay the man!

Lol according to Santa Ono, he had a conversation with Cronin and he's not going anywhere..

[Xville]

So we would maybe not make the tourney for a year or two. Newsflash that happens to basically everyone except bluebloods and Gonzaga because their league is crap. I don't want a mark few, I want a final four and a championship. That's the goal now..this program has done everything else. Are you all convinced that another coach can't do what mack has done....with all the support from the University, being in the Big east, and all the prior success? I think a different coach absolutely could. So I'm not concerned with mack leaving if he does in the next few years.

[X-band '01]

So what do you call "fine"? After Beaknose left, the Raccoon went to no tournament in 2005 and was on the verge of missing again in 2006 until the run through the A10 Tourney- luckily played at Riverfront Coliseum and after Temple got upset in the first round by GW. After the Raccoon left and his players graduated a couple of years later, we had a severe shortage of players in 2013- in numbers and talent because CMack had to start all over and build back relationships. Now we finally have the pipeline refilled, but it took some Jay Cantys, Griffin Mackinzies and Chris Cantinos before it refilled.

You need continuity.

You got it backwards - Temple upset GW (who themselves ran the table in the A-10 that season) and was then beaten by Saint Joe's the following day.

[xu82]

So we would maybe not make the tourney for a year or two. Newsflash that happens to basically everyone except bluebloods and Gonzaga because their league is crap. I don't want a mark few, I want a final four and a championship. That's the goal now..this program has done everything else. Are you all convinced that another coach can't do what mack has done....with all the support from the University, being in the Big east, and all the prior success? I think a different coach absolutely could. So I'm not concerned with mack leaving if he does in the next few years.

Newsflash: You have to make the tournament to win the tournament.

You don't move forward by taking steps backward. Nothing wrong with Mack, look at the program.

[Xville]

Newsflash: You have to make the tournament to win the tournament.

You don't move forward by taking steps backward. Nothing wrong with Mack, look at the program.

Yes u can move forward by taking steps backward first. Xavier has done that with every coach since prosser left. I didn't say there is anything wrong with mack, I'm just not going to worry if he leaves. The program is bigger than the coach..it's been that way for a while now.

[XUMIOH12]

Dixon must be on the hot seat at Pitt to take this job.

im a big fan of when guys go to coach their alma mater, especially when its Pitt to TCU or some odd transition like that

[XUMIOH12]

I hate this attitude. Eventually it will bite you in the ass. I am pretty confident if Sean never left, Xavier would have already made the final 4. Yeah its good that xavier has continued to win, but since the big east xavier is in its best position ever and Chris is involved with better recruits than ever. Continuity for a few more years and the skys the limit. Change coaches and expect a little step back like always. Remember when Thad left it took a few years to get back to where they were. Regardless, Louisville wont be open.

i agree with pretty much all of this. spot on for me.

[chico]

So what do you call "fine"? After Beaknose left, the Raccoon went to no tournament in 2005 and was on the verge of missing again in 2006 until the run through the A10 Tourney- luckily played at Riverfront Coliseum and after Temple got upset in the first round by GW. After the Raccoon left and his players graduated a couple of years later, we had a severe shortage of players in 2013- in numbers and talent because CMack had to start all over and build back relationships. Now we finally have the pipeline refilled, but it took some Jay Cantys, Griffin Mackinzies and Chris Cantinos before it refilled.

You need continuity.

Completely agree. However, if Mack were to leave, I feel better about our chances to get a top notch coach to replace him than I have at any other point in the program's history. This program is stronger than it's ever been.

[xu82]

Yes u can move forward by taking steps backward first. Xavier has done that with every coach since prosser left. I didn't say there is anything wrong with mack, I'm just not going to worry if he leaves. The program is bigger than the coach..it's been that way for a while now.

The program has continued to rise, but with delays due to lost coaches. Each loss of a good coach is a setback to be overcome. And you're only one bad hire away from long term damage. It's not as easy as you're making it out to be. If we lose Mack we have no choice but to move forward, but it would be a significant loss and hurt at least in the short term, and maybe much longer.

[Lloyd Braun]

Lol according to Santa Ono, he had a conversation with Cronin and he's not going anywhere..

I've heard THAT before. No state tax in Nevada... We'll see. I think he leaves. I'm sure he's sick of being X's whipping boy.

[XMuskieFTW]

The program has continued to rise, but with delays due to lost coaches. Each loss of a good coach is a setback to be overcome. And you're only one bad hire away from long term damage. It's not as easy as you're making it out to be. If we lose Mack we have no choice but to move forward, but it would be a significant loss and hurt at least in the short term, and maybe much longer.

Agreed. Especially when it comes to recruiting. A coach leaves and more often than not players leave. If Mack were to hypothetically go to Louisville, would it be that hard to imagine Quentin Goodin following? That and you're not just losing the head coach, but probably the entire staff. This also means you're losing recruiting pipelines and kids you may have been scouting for years/have offers out to. You essentially have to start over in recruiting a majority of the time for multiple classes. It puts you behind the 8 ball for probably 2 full classes. It's a very, very massive setback.

[XUMIOH12]

Agreed. Especially when it comes to recruiting. A coach leaves and more often than not players leave. If Mack were to hypothetically go to Louisville, would it be that hard to imagine Quentin Goodin following? That and you're not just losing the head coach, but probably the entire staff. This also means you're losing recruiting pipelines and kids you may have been scouting for years/have offers out to. You essentially have to start over in recruiting a majority of the time for multiple classes. It puts you behind the 8 ball for probably 2 full classes. It's a very, very massive setback.

yep, the recruiting setback is usually the biggest one. And the new coach has to do a good enough coaching job to offset that for a year or two.

[Masterofreality]

Lol according to Santa Ono, he had a conversation with Cronin and he's not going anywhere..

Why would YTG want to leave the "Hottest College In America?" (Insert flame emoji here)

[Masterofreality]

You got it backwards - Temple upset GW (who themselves ran the table in the A-10 that season) and was then beaten by Saint Joe's the following day.

Not the first time I've been bass-ackwards. :rolleyes:

[LA Muskie]

I could see Archie going to Pitt and Sean coming back to Louisville.
If they like the desert, I would worry about Louisville coming after Mack.

Chances of Sean and Archie coaching in the same conference = 0.


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[LA Muskie]

Well, first calls would be Brad stevens and billy donovan. To those saying they wouldn't be interested are fooling themselves. Remember that neither one of them coached at a top 5 college program. It may ahve more allure than the nba to them who knows. Anyways after that, I'd think Gregg Marshall would get a call. I'd doubt that louisville would need to go farther down the list than these three. No way all three would turn down the job...hell it might not even get past 1.

They may not have to go much deeper than the top 3. But they definitely will need to go deeper than the first 2. Neither Stevens nor Donovan are leaving their NBA gigs right now.


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[LA Muskie]

I've heard THAT before. No state tax in Nevada... We'll see. I think he leaves. I'm sure he's sick of being X's whipping boy.

He may leave. But it's hilarious if you think taxes would be the reason.


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[GoMuskies]

Chances of Sean and Archie coaching in the same conference = 0.


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I doubt very seriously that Archie would turn down UCLA if it was available to avoid being in the same conference as Sean.

[Lloyd Braun]

He may leave. But it's hilarious if you think taxes would be the reason.


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Yes that would be hilarious if it were THE reason for leaving. However if he's offered $3mil/year you can't tell me state taxes are insignificant.

[LA Muskie]

I doubt very seriously that Archie would turn down UCLA if it was available to avoid being in the same conference as Sean.

Congrats for identifying one of the VERY few potential exceptions. None of which include Pitt.


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[LA Muskie]

Yes that would be hilarious if it were THE reason for leaving. However if he's offered $3mil/year you can't tell me state taxes are insignificant.

I don't think millionaires spend all that much time fretting over state taxes (unless they are Republicans who want to make a political issue of it). The top OH state rate is 5.333%. After the federal deduction the difference is 3.8%. That's $115k on $3mm. Not chump change by any stretch, but probably not playing any role in the decision either.


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[GoMuskies]

Congrats for identifying one of the VERY few potential exceptions. None of which include Pitt.


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Well then, the chances are not zero. And if Archie took the Pitt job (and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he did if offered), I doubt VERY seriously that would affect how Sean thinks about the Louisville job when it comes open.

[LA Muskie]

I think it would take something pretty damn unbelievable for them to coach in the same conference. But you're right. "0" was hyperbole. Congrats for identifying the gaping hole in my position.


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[GoMuskies]

I think it would take something pretty damn unbelievable for them to coach in the same conference.


You really think it's so hard to fathom that Archie would end up at Pitt and Sean at Louisville? Not only was your statement hyperbole, it was nonsense. Where each guy's brother happens to coach is going to have zero impact on their respective career decision-making.

[LA Muskie]

Where each guy's brother happens to coach is going to have zero impact on their respective career decision-making.

Do you really think THIS is true??? These are the Millers, not the Harbaughs.

And yes I do think that if Pitt offered Archie, and if Archie took job, and if Pitino resigned, and if Louisville called Sean, that Sean would decline. But that's a lot of "ifs" and I tend to doubt any of them happen.


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[GoMuskies]

Do you really think THIS is true???


Of course I do. It would be quite odd for that to have anything to do with their decision-making.

[LA Muskie]

And with that I think we have reached our "agree to disagree" point.


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[XUMIOH12]

have they ever said that they don't want to coach in the same conference?

[BandAid]

Archie and Pitt would be a smart match. I approve this arrangement.

[Lloyd Braun]

Could Sean go to Pitt? (http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/03/22/sources-pitt-offers-head-coach-job-to-arizonas-sean-miller/)

[XUMIOH12]

looks like he might head to his alma mater

[THRILLHOUSE]

Sean Miller just tweeted that he has no interest in the Pitt job.

[XUMIOH12]

Sean Miller just tweeted that he has no interest in the Pitt job.

yep. that was quick

[chico]

Sean Miller just tweeted that he has no interest in the Pitt job.

What does that make Pitt then, a Chevy?

[Masterofreality]

They're confusing Archie with Sean. #TheMillers

[Lloyd Braun]

Rich Walsh - nice reporting!!

[THRILLHOUSE]

They're confusing Archie with Sean. #TheMillers

Per Goodman, Archie isn't in Pittsburgh either. So that CBS Pittsburgh guy got nothing right in his report.

[Masterofreality]

Per Goodman, Archie isn't in Pittsburgh either. So that CBS Pittsburgh guy got nothing right in his report.

Maybe in Cranberry Township....or Beaver Falls???:biggrin:

[Lloyd Braun]

He's sticking with his story. This is funny (https://twitter.com/richiewalsh/status/712362063952285697)

[Masterofreality]

My Twitter timeline right now is off the hook hilarious.

[chico]

Maybe it was just the cake boss.

[XU 87]

He's sticking with his story. This is funny (https://twitter.com/richiewalsh/status/712362063952285697)

Based on the way he worded it, this new tweet could be accurate. I don't doubt Miller was offered the job. And maybe Miller was in town (but just visiting his parents, relatives or friends rather than interviewing for the job).

[Snipe]

Miller was probably giving them advice on who to hire. I wonder who he would suggest as a potential coach?

[THRILLHOUSE]

Based on the way he worded it, this new tweet could be accurate. I don't doubt Miller was offered the job. And maybe Miller was in town (but just visiting his parents, relatives or friends rather than interviewing for the job).

I'm sure they offered him the job, but all signs point to him being in Tucson this whole time.

[vee4xu]

When I heard Dixon left, I told my brother and a friend of ours that Sean would go to Pitt, opening the door for Archie to go to AZ. Stranger things have happened. If Sean doesn't go to Pitt, you can bet Archie would go in a minute. It isn't Archie's alma mater, but it is a coaching job close to his home.

[LA Muskie]

I have no insight into the Miller family relationship with Pitt, but according to the Scout folks it's not healthy and neither would ever take that job. Take that for whatever it's worth.


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[GoMuskies]

I have it on good authority that Archie likes watermelon a little TOO much and might be in Dayton for a while.

[Cheesehead]

Richie Walsh is getting crushed in the Twitter world. I spit out my sandwich reading some of that stuff. Just getting crushed.

[XUFan09]

Richie Walsh is getting crushed in the Twitter world. I spit out my sandwich reading some of that stuff. Just getting crushed.
He is proof that when you are clearly wrong and the world knows, you NEVER double down. Take the ego blow and move on, dumbass.

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[THRILLHOUSE]

@GoodmanESPN 8m8 minutes ago
Been told by multiple sources Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin and UNLV are headed in the direction of a marriage. Talks still ongoing, though.

[GoMuskies]

UNLV has almost constantly been a dumpster fire since the end of the Tark era. This will not change that.

[XUMIOH12]

He is proof that when you are clearly wrong and the world knows, you NEVER double down. Take the ego blow and move on, dumbass.

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yeah he really should have just shut up and not said anything

[XUMIOH12]

UNLV has almost constantly been a dumpster fire since the end of the Tark era. This will not change that.

maybe they like being a dumpster fire?

[GoMuskies]

Here's some unintentional humor from the UNLV board. I went there to see what they were saying about Mick. Not much, since the board I found wasn't very active. But I did find this gem. The bolded parts don't seem to jive.

"A few names I would like to see considered for @TheRunninRebels Head Coaching position:

Wichita St. HC Greg Marshall
Former Stanford HC Johnny Dawkins

Former OKC Thunder HC Scott Brooks

Former Nuggets HC Brian Shaw



Who would you like to see hired? Please be realistic."

[Muskie]

I thought I posted this earlier... can someone tell me why Mick Cronin is worth double what UNLV paid Lon Kruger?

[THRILLHOUSE]

UNLV has almost constantly been a dumpster fire since the end of the Tark era. This will not change that.

They had an ok run between 2007 - 2013 with 6 tourney appearances during that time. (only got to the 2nd week of the tourney once during that frame though). Last couple of seasons have been bad.

[XUFan09]

I thought I posted this earlier... can someone tell me why Mick Cronin is worth double what UNLV paid Lon Kruger?
I can't tell you, because it doesn't make sense.

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[Muskie]

Here's some unintentional humor from the UNLV board. I went there to see what they were saying about Mick. Not much, since the board I found wasn't very active. But I did find this gem. The bolded parts don't seem to jive.

"A few names I would like to see considered for @TheRunninRebels Head Coaching position:

Wichita St. HC Greg Marshall
Former Stanford HC Johnny Dawkins

Former OKC Thunder HC Scott Brooks

Former Nuggets HC Brian Shaw



Who would you like to see hired? Please be realistic."

https://unlv.forums.rivals.com/threads/cronin.18162/