2016 BIG EAST Tournament - Madison Square Garden

[bobbiemcgee]

Schedule, bracket, TV:

http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2016/3/5/11166630/2016-big-east-tournament-bracket-schedule

[D-West & PO-Z]

I see Ellenson played and had monster game but still lost big.

Despite having trouble against St. Johns I would rather play them. It would be quite the feat for them to win 2 in a row after winning only 1 game since the start of the calendar year.

[GoMuskies]

Let's run this bitch.

[xu82]

Good practice for the next RUN!

[paulxu]

You can't run with the big dogs unless you get off the porch.

[JohnW22]

Feels good knowing no matter what happens in the BET X is in the NCAA tourney.

[X Factor]

Feels good knowing no matter what happens in the BET X is in the NCAA tourney.

Hope the team doesn't feel that way and comes out ready to play Thursday.

[The Coz]

If there are any samaritans out there Helen is looking for a Greyhound ticket to nyc. Plane ticket even better what with her sciatica acting up.

[DoubleD86]

X should win at least 2 games in the BET, but man this bracket broke as poorly as possible for X. Every team that they match up really well with is on the other side, every team that matches up better against X is on their side. Good thing it doesn't matter much at all!

[X-band '01]

It also breaks for a longshot 6th bid if Creighton or Marquette can somehow pull off 3 upsets to get in the tournament.

[m1ll3rhighlife]

THURSDAY MARCH 10th at 5 PM

The Thirsty Fan
254 W 31st St, New York, New York 10001

Created for NY Metro Xavier Alumni Chapter

Details
The Big East is here! Join Xavier fans from near and far to cheer on the Musketeers as they play Wednesday's winner of the St. John's / Marquette game.

The Thirsty Fan is at 254 West 31st Street between 7th & 8th Avenues. There will be a buffet meal available for purchase.

Fans are also highly encouraged to meet up at the bar after the game. Even if you are not buying a ticket, come watch at the bar!

Let's Go X!

[MADXSTER]

Cannot believe how many basic layups are being missed in this St John's Marquette game.

[xu82]

Cannot believe how many basic layups are being missed in this St John's Marquette game.

And yet it's very high scoring and fast paced (it's OK, wear yourselves out!). Marquette had 75 points with 10:40 left to play. Keep it close enough that the starters have to stay in!

[KC4X]

Ellenson is as big a flopper as Groselle. It's obviously worse, though, because Ellenson has talent otherwise. Why? Who encouraged that behavior in his past?

[xu82]

Ellenson is as big a flopper as Groselle. It's obviously worse, though, because Ellenson has talent otherwise. Why? Who encouraged that behavior in his past?

Yeah, the flopper has 27/12 right now, but it's only a 2 point game with a couple minutes to go. Didn't expect a game like this.

[GIMMFD]

Ellenson is as big a flopper as Groselle. It's obviously worse, though, because Ellenson has talent otherwise. Why? Who encouraged that behavior in his past?

Wojo must have taught him that ;)

Close game, Fischer out, a lot of fouls being called, it might play into our advantage that they had a tough first round game for either team that ends up winning to be honest.

[Strange Brew]

Yeah, the flopper has 27/12 right now, but it's only a 2 point game with a couple minutes to go. Didn't expect a game like this.

0 fouls called on Ellenson so far?!?! How is that possible?

[xu82]

0 fouls called on Ellenson so far?!?! How is that possible?

Damn good question! Didn't realize he had ZERO. I thought you got 1 or 2 just for stepping on the floor in this game. Glad we're deep, because the whistle just won't quit. Keep going, our game might be the second of the day for them if it drags out a few more minutes.

[GIMMFD]

0 fouls called on Ellenson so far?!?! How is that possible?

Seriously? Wow. Especially with Duane Wilson just being called to foul out for some of the softest crap I've seen. Hopefully they don't call it like this tomorrow with us. Because this is dreadful.

[KabeX]

0 fouls called on Ellenson so far?!?! How is that possible?

And Gus just mentioned that was the 50th foul of the game. None on Henry? That should change tomorrow for the big puss.

[GIMMFD]

And Gus just mentioned that was the 50th foul of the game. None on Henry? That should change tomorrow for the big puss.

Yup looks like we are going to get Marquette, though the end of this game is impossible to watch.

[KabeX]

And Gus just mentioned that was the 50th foul of the game. None on Henry? That should change tomorrow for the big puss.

Certainly without requisite beer it is. That's why I just opened another one. We should be ready to crush 'em tomorrow.

[D-West & PO-Z]

So Marquette will have to play us about 19 hours after this one ends.

What did we decide that threshold was for time between games????????

[KabeX]

I gotta say that Molly McGrath is somewhat easy on my tired eyes. NBR for that.

[KC4X]

I really like that Cheatham kid. He doesn'the get enough credit, IMO.

[xu82]

Henry might manage this entire interview without flopping backwards out of his chair!

[xu82]

I really like that Cheatham kid. He doesn'the get enough credit, IMO.

I prefer Molly McGrath.

[X-band '01]

I really like that Cheatham kid. He doesn'the get enough credit, IMO.

He did get named to the All-Frosh team with Ellenson and Sumner.

[KC4X]

Henry might manage this entire interview without flopping backwards out of his chair!

Are you saying you don't think he flops??? ???

I said he has talent... no disputing that. But he flops.

[KC4X]

He did get named to the All-Frosh team with Ellenson and Sumner.

True. I guess I should clarify that I respect his game more so than others, 《cough》Ellenson 《cough》.

[Masterofreality]

First night attendance 12,604. The New York Daily News commented in a story about the game - focused on St. John's- on that there were "many empty seats".

Well, I think 12,600 is pretty damn good considering that St. John's was abjectly horrible, DePaul brings literally no body and Georgetown was worse than mediocre this year- plus this was a preliminary night with only 4 schools playing. The AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC will probably be lucky to get half that today.

I love this league and love that this league has it's Tourney in the Mecca of Basketball.

[American X]

Certainly without requisite beer it is. That's why I just opened another one. We should be ready to crush 'em tomorrow.

100%. We will crush them, repeatedly.


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Although for March I have stockpiled beer bottles like a doomsday prepper. Guess I will smash them over my head.


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[Masterofreality]

One of the greatest days of the year!!! Wall to wall college basketball starting at noon. For the first time in a very long time, I will not be at any Conference Tournament this year..don't ask. Just too much ancillary stuff going on. I'll be glue to the TV though and NEXT YEAR look out New York!

[xu82]

Are you saying you don't think he flops??? ???

I said he has talent... no disputing that. But he flops.

Quite the opposite. I expected to see him go down backwards in his chair if someone turned their head quickly to look at him. You're right, he's talented, but they also gave up a basket late in the game (that could have been critical) because he flopped giving up a power play fast break. That was a fast moving game, no time to be lying around on the floor looking for the refs.

[bobbiemcgee]

First night attendance 12,604. The New York Daily News commented in a story about the game - focused on St. John's- on that there were "many empty seats".

Well, I think 12,600 is pretty damn good considering that St. John's was abjectly horrible, DePaul brings literally no body and Georgetown was worse than mediocre this year- plus this was a preliminary night with only 4 schools playing. The AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC will probably be lucky to get half that today.

I love this league and love that this league has it's Tourney in the Mecca of Basketball.

Avg session attendance was 14k last year. Expect # to go up this year. a-10 gets 7k across town.

[muskiefan82]

I enjoyed this morning when Matt Lauer was outside talking about how much fun it is during Big East Tournament week. He put on some X glasses, flashed the X sign, and then mentioned how cool it was to have all the teams in town like Xavier, Butler, and Creighton. Loved seeing all the X flags and signs waving in the background. Love it.

[xukeith]

Wish I saw that. Hope someone has a link.

[muskiefan82]

I guess Kathie Lee and Hoda did some sort of makeover on X student Libby Acker as well.

2014

2015

[bobbiemcgee]

X girl gets makeover:

http://www.today.com/video/this-ambush-makeover-gets-one-of-the-biggest-reactions-ever-641345603787

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/schedule?group=14

Hoyas hangin' in there so far. Playing some good "D"

[Masterofreality]

East Coast X Man reports about 15,000 at the Garden this afternoon.

[American X]

Get Kahns the number of the hungover middle-aged lady behind Jay Wright.

[xu82]

X girl gets makeover:

http://www.today.com/video/this-ambush-makeover-gets-one-of-the-biggest-reactions-ever-641345603787

A full night at Dana's can result in similar transformations, but they change back before you wake up with a hangover.

[Masterofreality]

East Coast X now reports that the crowd is up around 17,000 now. Damn good afternoon turnout.

[Masterofreality]

Get Kahns the number of the hungover middle-aged lady behind Jay Wright.

Ha!!!! That trip memories will never die.

[GIMMFD]

Which of you degenerates are joining me for Live Chat tonight?

[bobbiemcgee]

Hate to see DSR go out this way.....Nah...#baddecisionmaking

[XUFan09]

In what was a back-and-forth game, the current score of the Villanova-Georgetown game is almost entirely explained by a 14-1 Villanova run starting at around the 10-minute mark of the second half. Brutal.

Maybe Georgetown will make the NIT?

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[Masterofreality]

In what was a back-and-forth game, the current score of the Villanova-Georgetown game is almost entirely explained by a 14-1 Villanova run starting at around the 10-minute mark of the second half. Brutal.

Maybe Georgetown will make the NIT?

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Not being under .500

Would guess Creighton & Marquette

[XUFan09]

Not being under .500

Would guess Creighton & Marquette
Ah, yeah, couldn't remember their record. Even if they count the tournament game against DePaul, I think they're still under .500.

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[XUFan09]

DSR should have left last year. He could have been cashing a paycheck all of this year and he may have actually hurt his salary negotiating position this season.

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[Xville]

JT3 should be canned...there is no excuse for this much talent to go 15-18...that's freaking ridiculous.

[bourbonman]

DSR should have come to Xavier. He could have been playing for a fun team having a great run all of this year and he may have actually hurt his salary negotiating position this season.

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Fixed this for you.

[Xaveriana]

I guess Kathie Lee and Hoda did some sort of makeover on X student Libby Acker as well.

2014

2015

Terrible makeover. They removed the Xavier shirt. :-)

[XU 87]

Never mind.

[Masterofreality]

This Tournament is so cool, and Fox does a great job covering it.

Suck it ESPN. Requiem for the Big East? I think not.

[Masterofreality]

I would say that Butler needs this game more than Providence.

[X-band '01]

Slow start for Butler, but they are well within striking distance at recess.

[Masterofreality]

Building packed. Good stuff from my buddy::
2016

[Masterofreality]

Bentil is tough. Butler may REALLY need SucKS to lose tomorrow.

[bobbiemcgee]

Building packed. Good stuff from my buddy::
2016

Checked the A-10 game on TV - saw more people at the bus stop this morning.

[Masterofreality]

Official paid attendance afternoon session : 14,863.

[X-band '01]

Plenty of good seats available at the American in Orlando, though.

[Masterofreality]

Checked the A-10 game on TV - saw more people at the bus stop this morning.

6,519 official paid at the A10 afternoon session.

[Masterofreality]

A little worried for Butler. Down to below 50 in the KPI and a weak OOC schedule in the 230's.

[paulxu]

I'd like to find the dynamic page for KPI, but can't do it. All I can find is the games through yesterday.
Here was a tweet by him though that maybe Butler can hold on:



KPI Sports ‎‎@KPIsports
With today's loss to Providence, Butler sits at No. 48 in KPI. That's right at the cut line if KPI math is accurate. https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/708041210779205632 …

[Masterofreality]

I'd like to find the dynamic page for KPI, but can't do it. All I can find is the games through yesterday.
Here was a tweet by him though that maybe Butler can hold on:

That is good news. I saw in in-game that looked 3 spots higher-51, and that's scary.

EDIT POST- Just looked again and Butler is now down to 69 in KPI. Uhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[paulxu]

He's put all his AQ's on the list, so 69 is actually the first team off the bubble.

[Masterofreality]

He's put all his AQ's on the list, so 69 is actually the first team off the bubble.

Ah, got ya.

[Masterofreality]

Over/Under on number of flops that Groselle takes tonight.

I say 3

[xu82]

Over/Under on number of flops that Groselle takes tonight.

I say 3

I'll take the over.

[Masterofreality]

Oh, crap. This seton Hall/ Creighton game will last 5 hours. Wally Rutecki is one of the refs.

[Xville]

Seton hall is a damn good team. I could see them playing the second weekend easily.

[KC4X]

Quite the opposite. I expected to see him go down backwards in his chair if someone turned their head quickly to look at him. You're right, he's talented, but they also gave up a basket late in the game (that could have been critical) because he flopped giving up a power play fast break. That was a fast moving game, no time to be lying around on the floor looking for the refs.

Oh duh! Of course! And true... he did cost them points there but scored himself next trip dammit. Not a fan.

So glad X annihilated them! 9 more to go!

[KC4X]

By the way... love that Bill Murray is still there with his X hat on!

[Lloyd Braun]

Seton hall is a damn good team. I could see them playing the second weekend easily.

But can't you see them losing on Thursday too?

Edit: Next Thursday not tonight

[bobbiemcgee]

Geesh. Give the ball to Huff!

[XUFan09]

This is a helluva game. Only exciting game of the day, actually.

[Lloyd Braun]

Side note: I see Luke Murray and Mike Pegues sitting right behind SH bench. Advanced scouting!

[Xville]

But can't you see them losing on Thursday too?

Edit: Next Thursday not tonight

Not really. They have so much talent in their starting five that if one or two guys are off, they would still be ok. A team like providence though I could see go either way..heavily reliant on two guys and good teams can find a way to slow them down.

[Lloyd Braun]

Not really. They have so much talent in their starting five that if one or two guys are off, they would still be ok. A team like providence though I could see go either way..heavily reliant on two guys and good teams can find a way to slow them down.

Talent is not the problem, they are too volatile for me to trust. Even Willard spazzes out easily.

[Xville]

Talent is not the problem, they are too volatile for me to trust. Even Willard spazzes out easily.

I can see where you are coming from, but I really like them. They are light years ahead of where they were last year. Anyways, hope we beat them...would love round 3 with nova if they get to the final as well.

[Masterofreality]

13,813. Attendance for the evening session. About 1,000 less than the afternoon.

[Masterofreality]

By the way. 5,507 packed into the Barclays Center for the evening A10 Tourney doubleheader. I don't know where they found the space to squeeze all those fanatics in there.

[paulxu]

Jimmy...and the X-Flex.

https://twitter.com/FS1/status/708124953413947392

[Masterofreality]

Here's hoping for two really close exciting games tonight with a X Nova final of two Top 5 teams.

With Gus and Raft on the call this could be legendary television..and just the thing break this ESPN stronghold...after we get two to the Final 4 this year.

[X-band '01]

It's actually Gus and Jim Jackson for the semis and championship; Bill Raftery is moving over to Indianapolis for CBS coverage now.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It's actually Gus and Jim Jackson for the semis and championship; Bill Raftery is moving over to Indianapolis for CBS coverage now.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

I will miss Raf dearly.

[paulxu]

If they need a Bill to fill in, maybe they could get Flex-X on the mike.

[sgarcia]

Nice to see the premier announcing team they've hyped up for 3 years isn't doing the semis or the final of the conference tourney together. Awesome job there.

[XMuskieFTW]

It's actually Gus and Jim Jackson for the semis and championship; Bill Raftery is moving over to Indianapolis for CBS coverage now.

That's really weak. I like Jim Jackson, but Raft bailing for the Big Ten is lame.

[xukeith]

That's really weak. I like Jim Jackson, but Raft bailing for the Big Ten is lame.

Money talks.

[American X]

Here's hoping for two really close exciting games tonight with a X Nova final of two Top 5 teams.

Four tournament teams going at it. This doubleheader is NCAA tournament day quality. I can easily see any combination of those four in the final. I think the Big East may have been a good move for Xavier.

[bobbiemcgee]

I like Raf, but with the crowd noise at these games, i don't get half the shit he sez.

[UCGRAD4X]

Four tournament teams going at it. This doubleheader is NCAA tournament day quality. I can easily see any combination of those four in the final. I think the Big East may have been a good move for Xavier.

Glad to see you've come around.

[Masterofreality]

Attendance for the semi-finals : 17,130.
Damn good

[D-West & PO-Z]

Really sucks we couldnt do our job to get a rubber match with Nova.

[GoMuskies]

Attendance for the semi-finals : 17,130.
Damn good

The place was packed tonight. Really fun environment. Too bad Xavier's team didn't show.

[Masterofreality]

Interesting stuff on TV ratings from the Holy Land of Hoops board:

Thursday Hoops on FS1
Xavier - Marquette 200k viewers
Seton Hall - Creighton 170k
California- Oregon State 148k
Villanova - Georgetown 101k
Providence -Butler 93k

2016 Big East quarterfinals (4 game) audience up 17% from last year

And this from MU Panther on the HOH board too:

Can't help myself but ouch in the Atlantic 10 on NBCSN
UMass/URI 44K
Richmond/Fordham 30k
LaSalle/Davidson 27k
St. Louis/GW 25k

I thought they would be a bit higher since the CAA Title Game got UNCW-Hofstra got 117k

[xukeith]

Interesting stuff on TV ratings from the Holy Land of Hoops board:

Thursday Hoops on FS1
Xavier - Marquette 200k viewers
Seton Hall - Creighton 170k
California- Oregon State 148k
Villanova - Georgetown 101k
Providence -Butler 93k

2016 Big East quarterfinals (4 game) audience up 17% from last year

And this from MU Panther on the HOH board too:

Can't help myself but ouch in the Atlantic 10 on NBCSN
UMass/URI 44K
Richmond/Fordham 30k
LaSalle/Davidson 27k
St. Louis/GW 25k

I thought they would be a bit higher since the CAA Title Game got UNCW-Hofstra got 117k

correct but ESPN gets MILLIONS so we have work to do.

[Masterofreality]

correct but ESPN gets MILLIONS so we have work to do.

But it's growing....and with two Top 5 top ranked teams the league is doing it's part.

[X-man]

Interesting stuff on TV ratings from the Holy Land of Hoops board:

Thursday Hoops on FS1
Xavier - Marquette 200k viewers
Seton Hall - Creighton 170k
California- Oregon State 148k
Villanova - Georgetown 101k
Providence -Butler 93k

2016 Big East quarterfinals (4 game) audience up 17% from last year

And this from MU Panther on the HOH board too:

Can't help myself but ouch in the Atlantic 10 on NBCSN
UMass/URI 44K
Richmond/Fordham 30k
LaSalle/Davidson 27k
St. Louis/GW 25k

I thought they would be a bit higher since the CAA Title Game got UNCW-Hofstra got 117k

At least they are getting more viewers than tournament attendees. The Barclay Center has looked pretty empty for most of the A10 tournament games.

[Masterofreality]

Uh, Seton Hall is for real folks....and Isaiah Whitehead is a PRO......very soon.

He's got the body, size and he's developing the smarts.

[GoMuskies]

Villanova looking like the team that's flamed out early the last few years. Hope they're just getting it out of their system.

[Olsingledigit]

Uh, Seton Hall is for real folks....and Isaiah Whitehead is a PRO......very soon.

He's got the body, size and he's developing the smarts.

We have two BE Tournament threads going, so sorry to repeat, but SH is doing the NOVA what they did to us. They are for real. Energizer bunnies. They are on a mission. Hate to get them in the NCAA (not X but whoever they play). If you do, you better beware.

[XUFan09]

The good news, guys, is that since Xavier played them three times, they can't possibly face Seton Hall until late in the tournament!

Edit: Running into previous opponents isn't at the top of the Committee's list of priorities, but I imagine matching teams that have played each other three times would be avoided a bit more.

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[Xville]

Sh is the real deal...give them the right matchup I could easily see them in the elite eight.

[muskiefan82]

Let's do 1985 all over again and put three Big East teams in the Final Four.

[Lloyd Braun]

I guess I'm in the minority on them. They don't have the depth to play high energy for 40 minutes without fouling out key guys. We'll see, im still quite skeptical. They are not mentally strong IMO. I would glad to be wrong though. The league needs to have a good showing in the dance.

[Olsingledigit]

SH still holding on, but the difference between last night and tonight is that Khadeen Carrington cannot hit the ocean tonight and he torched us tonight and Creighton the night before.

[XUFan09]

This is a tough situation for SH. You're down 2, with 12 seconds separating the shot clock and game clock. How do you approach that defensive possession?

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[bourbonman]

Fun game. Go SH

[chico]

It's a bummer we didn't make it to the finals but this is a great game.

[Lloyd Braun]

You really have to hammer someone to get a foul under 5 seconds in a game.

[Xville]

I wonder does the hall get a 5 possibly?

[xu82]

It's a bummer we didn't make it to the finals but this is a great game.

Was, and yes.

[Masterofreality]

At the Garden tonight, official paid attendance:

19,812. Standing.....Room....Only.

I love this league!!!!!!

[bourbonman]

I'm 2 years away from being able to attend in person. Oh, how I can't wait.

[XUFan09]

I'm really hoping either the BET or the NCAA first weekend match up with my spring break next year. If so, the wife is taking some vacation time for us to make a trip.

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[xu82]

I have stated next year is a serious goal. My wife travels so much my biggest concern is who will take care of the dog. If she doesn't join me, I'll just follow Snipe for my itinerary. (At a distance, for safety.)

[D-West & PO-Z]

The good news, guys, is that since Xavier played them three times, they can't possibly face Seton Hall until late in the tournament!

Edit: Running into previous opponents isn't at the top of the Committee's list of priorities, but I imagine matching teams that have played each other three times would be avoided a bit more.

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Cant play until the elite 8

[Xtemporaneous]

The place was packed tonight. Really fun environment. Too bad Xavier's team didn't show.

Yes and glad to meet you GOMUSKIES! Safe travels...

[LA Muskie]

I wonder does the hall get a 5 possibly?

I think they deserve a 4 after this run. But yes I think they probably top out at a 5.


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[waggy]

Dance Card had them as a 5 after yesterday. Will probably project them as a 4 after updating for todays results.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think they deserve a 4 after this run. But yes I think they probably top out at a 5.


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didnt you hear its impossible to move up or down based on conference tourney results? The committee already has the bracket decided.

[LA Muskie]

His arguments were giving me a headache.


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[Dmartin]

I agree with the statement that they don't have the depth to go very far and if your behind by 10 or less with 5 min left go to the full court press and you win by 5.

X missed so many easy shots against SH and played so flat and still almost came back, if we played them with 80% of our normal intensity we beat SH any day of the week anywhere. After WH I can't think of any player on SH who I would trade our starting 7 with..top 7 players.

[waggy]

I agree with the statement that they don't have the depth to go very far and if your behind by 10 or less with 5 min left go to the full court press and you win by 5.

X missed so many easy shots against SH and played so flat and still almost came back, if we played them with 80% of our normal intensity we beat SH any day of the week anywhere. After WH I can't think of any player on SH who I would trade our starting 7 with..top 7 players.

You're either delusional or have no clue what you're looking at.

[LA Muskie]

I agree with the statement that they don't have the depth to go very far and if your behind by 10 or less with 5 min left go to the full court press and you win by 5.

X missed so many easy shots against SH and played so flat and still almost came back, if we played them with 80% of our normal intensity we beat SH any day of the week anywhere. After WH I can't think of any player on SH who I would trade our starting 7 with..top 7 players.

I think you are vastly over-emphasizing the last 3 minutes of that game. They made us their bitch. Twice in the last week. They are far more than just Isaiah Whitehead.


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[Xville]

I think you are vastly over-emphasizing the last 3 minutes of that game. They made us their bitch. Twice in the last week. They are far more than just Isaiah Whitehead.


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Yeah id argue they have the best starting 5 in the Big East. Also the depth thing is way overblown. They play 7 that is more than enough in the tourney, especially with the long timeouts.

[muethibp]

I've been to the NCAA tournament many times but this was my first Big East tournament. Will definitely return. New York is a great host, games at the Garden are fun when your team is playing, and even when not (went to the final - that place was electric). I enjoyed the experience more than NCAA weekends.

[xavierj]

Yeah id argue they have the best starting 5 in the Big East. Also the depth thing is way overblown. They play 7 that is more than enough in the tourney, especially with the long timeouts.

Yes and 7 of their top 8 are freshman and sophmores. If Whitehead sticks around 1 more year, they probably will be top 10-15 preseason and big east favorites next year. They only lose Gordon and he is just ok.

[Dmartin]

I missed the SH Nova game yesterday but everything I read and all of the high lights say that they were robbed. Kind of like the Duke win over Virginia. What If Ochefu was healthy...

I would argue that if SH is so good then why aren't they ranked? Just because they beat us twice when we weren't playing well doesn't mean they are a great team. Was it their great defense that held us to 80 some points? How many lay ups did we miss? Our shot count was so high, we had so many open looks. How many rebounds did X give away with us fighting each other and tipping it to them? We played a bad bad game.

I would agree that they are a tough match up for X but it seems that any team that beats us becomes a great team for the time being then they lose and we are back to reality. I can go back to posts when GT beat us and all of the sudden GT was a great team as well for that time period.

SH has been ranked top 20 for the past 2 pre seasons only to fall after a few weeks into the season. I don't see them winning too many games without WH or Delgado.

I have been wrong before but, I see any tough defensive team beating Seton Hall. Even a bubble team like SDSU would give them fits with their defense. I also see any good shooting team beating them. Creighton played them tough, Butler owns them.

[X Factor]

To the abover DMARTIN:

There is so much wrong with your post. SH will be ranked when the next polls come out. They weren't ranked in the Top 20 the past two preseasons.

Of course Seton Hall can be beat. Anyone can be beat, but they are playing very good basketball right now. They are big, athletic, and have playmakers.

Xavier did play horribly against Seton Hall in the BE Tourney. Myles turned it over 6 times in the first half alone.

I like Xavier's chances going into the NCAA Tournament.

[X-band '01]

Given how red-hot Seton Hall has been over the past 2 months, they definitely deserve to be a protected seed. This would also mandate that X, Villanova and Seton Hall all be placed in different regions. At worst, the earliest Xavier can play the Hall is the Elite 8 b/c of their 3-game series this year.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Given how red-hot Seton Hall has been over the past 2 months, they definitely deserve to be a protected seed. This would also mandate that X, Villanova and Seton Hall all be placed in different regions. At worst, the earliest Xavier can play the Hall is the Elite 8 b/c of their 3-game series this year.

I dont think they will get top 4 seed but they definitely moved up big time. Maybe 5 seed? 6 at worst?

[Dmartin]

It may have not been pre season but for the past two years at least Seton Hall is ranked early into the Season, only to sputter and fall, much like Butler. They remind me a lot of St Johns team two years ago, where X just doesn't match up well with them, despite this loss SH being very beatable.

Yes they are playing very well that can't be disputed but I certainly don't fear them if X and SH meet again.

I get the feeling when X loses the board reflects how great the defeater is rather than how poorly X played in that particular game.

X is a solid 5th ranked team with a great RPI and record. SH is a hot young team who's playing very well but they can be beat by so many teams not in the top 20. SDSU, UC, USC, Zag.. on and on and on.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I get the feeling when X loses the board reflects how great the defeater is rather than how poorly X played in that particular game.


That is definitely not usually the case.

[JTG]

We couldn't have shot worse Friday if we were wearing blindfolds.

[XUFan09]

That is definitely not usually the case.
No kidding. The best example is the Georgetown game. It was one of the few games of the season that the most disappointing team in D1 played to their potential. Because of that, people couldn't see that Xavier played a decent game, just not good enough to win against that onslaught.

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[Masterofreality]

The Seton Hall/Villanova Big East Tournament final drew a 1.0 overnight rating on FOX Saturday afternoon, up 233% from Villanova/Xavier last year (0.3) and up 100% from Providence/Creighton in 2014 (0.5), both of which aired on FS1. Compared to the last championship of the original Big East, Louisville/Syracuse in 2013, overnights dropped 52% from a 2.1 on ESPN.

The Pirates’ upset win scored the second-highest college basketball overnight on the Fox Sports family of networks, behind only a Duke/St. John’s game in January of last year (1.5).

[XUMIOH12]

The Seton Hall/Villanova Big East Tournament final drew a 1.0 overnight rating on FOX Saturday afternoon, up 233% from Villanova/Xavier last year (0.3) and up 100% from Providence/Creighton in 2014 (0.5), both of which aired on FS1. Compared to the last championship of the original Big East, Louisville/Syracuse in 2013, overnights dropped 52% from a 2.1 on ESPN.

The Pirates’ upset win scored the second-highest college basketball overnight on the Fox Sports family of networks, behind only a Duke/St. John’s game in January of last year (1.5).

thats not too shabby. obviously much better than the last two seasons with it being on Fox this time.

[Masterofreality]

thats not too shabby. obviously much better than the last two seasons with it being on Fox this time.

I guess the question would be whether Fox would have gotten higher rating with alternate programming? Probably not for the network.

Local affiliates may have been pissed because they took away their local news hour that usually pays lots of bills, but screw them, right? I actually though the start time was great. Slid it in before many of the prime time games starting and after most of the afternoon action.

[Masterofreality]

Postby MUPanther » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:30 am

Michael Mulvihill ‏@mulvihill79 46m46 minutes ago
Big East Tournament viewership up +84% this year on FOX and FS1 combined, by far the biggest gain of any conference. @BigEastMBB

[NOVA]

Postby MUPanther » Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:30 am

Michael Mulvihill ‏@mulvihill79 46m46 minutes ago
Big East Tournament viewership up +84% this year on FOX and FS1 combined, by far the biggest gain of any conference. @BigEastMBB

Thought the tourney was tremendous this year. I think helped with a good NYC local team in the mix finally but in general, all sessions were packed. I have gone over the years several times and I do not recall a Thursday day session being as packed EVER as it was this past tourney.

[muethibp]

Thought the tourney was tremendous this year. I think helped with a good NYC local team in the mix finally but in general, all sessions were packed. I have gone over the years several times and I do not recall a Thursday day session being as packed EVER as it was this past tourney.

Both Friday and Saturday were very crowded. The atmosphere for the final was electric.

[XUMIOH12]

Both Friday and Saturday were very crowded. The atmosphere for the final was electric.

the atmosphere was great for friday and saturday. Thursday wasnt too bad, but not great.