2016 Championship Week Thread

[X-band '01]

Today, the race for the 68 NCAA Tournament berths kicks into high gear with the Patriot and Atlantic Sun kicking off their conference tournaments. The Patriot League has a pair of opening round games streamed online (patriotleague.tv); the Atlantic Sun kicks off on ESPN3 with 4 quarterfinal games.

[XUMIOH12]

Yes! the start of the best time of year

[muskiefan82]

I am enjoying the "seeding" discussion rather than the "X needs to win at least a game in the BE Tournament to get in" conversation.

[MADXSTER]

Let the Madness Begin!!!

[xubrew]

I think there are 323 teams left, and they all get to play until they lose.

The consensus top forty get to lose twice, so long as one of the losses is in the conference tournament.

[D-West & PO-Z]

NJIT upset by Stetson.

[X-band '01]

Jacksonville also lost at home to Lipscomb - Lipscomb as the #6 seed now gets to host #7 seed Stetson in the semis. This is permissible since the A-Sun doesn't do any reseeding (like the Big West and the Northeast Conferences) for the semifinals.

[GIMMFD]

Jacksonville also lost at home to Lipscomb - Lipscomb as the #6 seed now gets to host #7 seed Stetson in the semis. This is permissible since the A-Sun doesn't do any reseeding (like the Big West and the Northeast Conferences) for the semifinals.

How strange.... good for Lipscomb though I guess? I hope they win and make it to the tournament.. it'll be a great story lol.

[xubrew]

How about this, if Stetson and North Florida win, the championship game is meaningless because Stetson cannot go to the NCAA Tournament, and the league has decided it will send the first place team if Stetson somehow wins it, which is North Florida.

if FGCU and Stetson both win, then Stetson will essentially be playing for North Florida to get in.

Personally, I think if a team is ineligible for the NCAA Tournament, then no good comes from letting them play in the conference tournament. Southern was ineligible last year. They played Texas Southern in a game where Texas Southern was going into the NCAAs regardless of what happened. The rules say the conference champion gets in automatically. Well, if an ineligible team wins the championship, then why should a team who didn't win the championship get to automatically go??

[xudash]

Jacksonville also lost at home to Lipscomb - Lipscomb as the #6 seed now gets to host #7 seed Stetson in the semis. This is permissible since the A-Sun doesn't do any reseeding (like the Big West and the Northeast Conferences) for the semifinals.

As a quick aside, JU and UNF are trying to build a "rivalry" game in a "cross town" kind of way here in Jacksonville. It's kind of cute.

JU hasn't been relevant since Artis Gilmore took them all the way to a loss against UCLA in the championship game in the John Wooden era. I've had the pleasure of being around Artis a few times at charity events. I'm a big guy at 6'2", but Artis just dwarfs me, and his hand will swallow anyone's hand in a handshake, and golf carts tremble at the thought of being the one selected by him to get around a course during a Captain's Choice event.

UNF has no history, as it is a relatively new school that only recently converted to D1 status.

With all that said, it will be interesting to see how their rivalry grows over the years, as they are both committed to getting better in hoops.

[X-band '01]

The River City Rumble is what they call that game, isn't it?

[xubrew]

The River City Rumble is what they call that game, isn't it?

Yes.

UNF recently transitioned up.

It's all relative, but I can respect a program that becomes a conference frontrunner so quickly after completing the transition. But, to Dash's point they have no history to speak of because it wasn't until recently that they even existed at the div1 level.

Matt Driscoll is a very good coach. I think he was instrumental in getting Baylor turned around with his recruiting ties before he left for North Florida, and he's managed to take a transitional program and make them one of the better programs in the ASun. He might not be there much longer.

[xubrew]

The elimination games have started. We're down to 316 teams. Congrats to Xavier on making the Sweet 316!!! We should make t-shirts!

http://hoopshd.com/ncaa-tournament-survival-board/

[X-band '01]

The America East got off to an exciting start - Stony Brook was lucky to be able to survive a slow start against UMBC, but Albany was not so lucky against Hartford. The road to the Seawolves' first ever NCAA Tournament bid got even easier.

[xubrew]

The America East got off to an exciting start - Stony Brook was lucky to be able to survive a slow start against UMBC, but Albany was not so lucky against Hartford. The road to the Seawolves' first ever NCAA Tournament bid got even easier.

With Albany out of the way, Stony Brook can't blow it in the final seconds and lose to Albany at home again. Can they??

Somehow, I think Albany still finds away to beat Stony Brook at Stony Brook in the championship game.

[XUMIOH12]

With Albany out of the way, Stony Brook can't blow it in the final seconds and lose to Albany at home again. Can they??

Somehow, I think Albany still finds away to beat Stony Brook at Stony Brook in the championship game.

lol stony brook has had such bad luck in the conference tourney the last several years.

[XUMIOH12]

How about this, if Stetson and North Florida win, the championship game is meaningless because Stetson cannot go to the NCAA Tournament, and the league has decided it will send the first place team if Stetson somehow wins it, which is North Florida.

if FGCU and Stetson both win, then Stetson will essentially be playing for North Florida to get in.

Personally, I think if a team is ineligible for the NCAA Tournament, then no good comes from letting them play in the conference tournament. Southern was ineligible last year. They played Texas Southern in a game where Texas Southern was going into the NCAAs regardless of what happened. The rules say the conference champion gets in automatically. Well, if an ineligible team wins the championship, then why should a team who didn't win the championship get to automatically go??

yeah i agree, there is really no point in letting an ineligible team play in the conference tournament. It screws over the teams that actually have a shot at making the big dance.

[Xtemporaneous]

In Ohio Valley Conference action, my alma mater Austin Peay dismantled Tennessee Tech behind a 37 point, 21 rebound performance by Chris Horton. I'm sure this spurred my favorite cheer - Let's Go Peay!

[GoMuskies]

In Ohio Valley Conference action, my alma mater Austin Peay dismantled Tennessee Tech behind a 37 point, 21 rebound performance by Chris Horton. I'm sure this spurred my favorite cheer - Let's Go Peay!

Thanks for the reminder that the OVC is underway. I almost went to Murray State instead of Xavier (okay, it wasn't that close, but it was my second choice), so I like to follow the Racers. They suck this year, but your post was a reminder to check out the OVC Tournament, and I was glad to see they won last night even though they have a 0.0% chance of winning four games in Nashville.

[xubrew]

Thanks for the reminder that the OVC is underway. I almost went to Murray State instead of Xavier (okay, it wasn't that close, but it was my second choice), so I like to follow the Racers. They suck this year, but your post was a reminder to check out the OVC Tournament, and I was glad to see they won last night even though they have a 0.0% chance of winning four games in Nashville.

They play Morehead tonight. Murray v Morehead is always fun. The winner has almost no chance of winning the tournament, but at least they get to live and play for one more day.

[GIMMFD]

They play Morehead tonight. Murray v Morehead is always fun. The winner has almost no chance of winning the tournament, but at least they get to live and play for one more day.

Morehead was always another great one to cheer for... for name sake of course.

[xubrew]

Morehead was always another great one to cheer for... for name sake of course.

Longwood won their opening round game today in the Big South.

[GoMuskies]

That was one serious comeback by Peay tonight.

[bobbiemcgee]

Bucknell lost to 9th seed Holy Cross in Patriot.

[X-band '01]

Holy Cross hit a buzzer-beating 3 to send that one to double OT. The Bison had nothing left after that.

Both road teams won in the Atlantic Sun by a combined 54 points as well. Sad thing is, North Florida (despite losing by 33 to Florida Gulf Coast) can still make the NCAAs if Stetson wins the championship on Sunday. The Hatters aren't eligible for the NCAAs because of APR issues.

[xubrew]

North Florida fans need to travel to FGCU and root on Stetson.

[xubrew]

Morehead was always another great one to cheer for... for name sake of course.


Longwood won their opening round game today in the Big South.

Longwood looks kind of limp.

It's sad. I'm in my thirties, and I still haven't outgrown high school humor.

[GoMuskies]

Arch Madness, catch it! 40 minutes til the Shockers make their first appearance, marking the first postseason game by an actual NCAA Tournament team this year.

[xubrew]

Arch Madness, catch it! 40 minutes til the Shockers make their first appearance, marking the first postseason game by an actual NCAA Tournament team this year.

So, we've got Longwood, Morehead, and the Shockers today!!

....Okay, I'll show myself out.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Arch Madness, catch it! 40 minutes til the Shockers make their first appearance, marking the first postseason game by an actual NCAA Tournament team this year.

Who they play? I saw ESPN has them as a lock, I'm guessing that is pretty true. So they could lose and be in I guess. Wouldn't mind seeing them do either really well or mediocre to hopefully raise them above a 7 or knock them down to the 8/9 line (assuming we dont get a 1). Dont want to see them in the 2nd round.

[DoubleD86]

In Ohio Valley Conference action, my alma mater Austin Peay dismantled Tennessee Tech behind a 37 point, 21 rebound performance by Chris Horton. I'm sure this spurred my favorite cheer - Let's Go Peay!

I went to my first ever Assembly Hall game this year when IU hosted Austin Peay. With no rooting interest in the game, it was just a fun experience but me and my IU fan buddy fell in love with Chris Horton that game. He played so hard and did everything, putting up 17 and 12 with 4 assists and 4 blocks in 37 minutes on 8-13 shooting. Horton is my dude.

[XUMIOH12]

Who they play? I saw ESPN has them as a lock, I'm guessing that is pretty true. So they could lose and be in I guess. Wouldn't mind seeing them do either really well or mediocre to hopefully raise them above a 7 or knock them down to the 8/9 line (assuming we dont get a 1). Dont want to see them in the 2nd round.

Loyola. should be a relatively easy win for Wichita

[GoMuskies]

the Shockers



Two in the pink, one in the stink!

I know ESPN has them as a lock, but I think they'd better win today. Losing to Loyola might be a problem.

[GoMuskies]

Shockers leading a thriller 30-21 at the half. I think I even saw Gregg Marshall yawning during that first half.

[X-band '01]

So, we've got Longwood, Morehead, and the Shockers today!!

....Okay, I'll show myself out.

And we still have one more night of LET'S GO PEAY in the OVC!

[X-band '01]

Go, you can start sweating as it relates to Wichita State. Loyola up 4 at the under-8 TO.

[muskiefan82]

This is turning into much more of a game than it should be.

[XUMIOH12]

would be shocked if they lost

[GoMuskies]

Go, you can start sweating as it relates to Wichita State. Loyola up 4 at the under-8 TO.

It was terrifying. Still not over. But Baker is refusing to lose.

[X-band '01]

Disaster averted.

[muskiefan82]

For now. That can't be making you feel great about their chances going forward.

[GoMuskies]

Fred VanVleet was horrific today. 1-6 from the floor, 2 assists and 3 TOs.

[xubrew]

If Wichita doesn't win the conference tournament, at least they avoided the most damaging loss they could have encountered. I think they're in now, but then again you never know.

[GoMuskies]

UNC-A is really pissed at Liberty for some reason today. UNC-A's coach must have forced his players to watch Jerry Falwell on a continuous loop for hours prior to this game. How else to explain how rudely they're treating the Flames?

[X-band '01]

The worst-case scenario for Wichita now would be losing a 2nd game to Northern Iowa. That's the only way I could see them denied an NCAA Tournament bid. Losing to Illinois State in the championship would also sting, but I think 2 wins in the Valley would be enough if that happened.

[xubrew]

I wouldn't be shocked if UNI won this tournament.

[GoMuskies]

I wouldn't be shocked if UNI won this tournament.

If they can manage to beat a pretty bad SIU team.

[X-band '01]

SIU isn't bad - their record is just a little too padded.

[xubrew]

SIU isn't bad - their record is just a little too padded.

I'm currently watching Samford v VMI. Samford is bad. VMI is bad.

[xubrew]

If they can manage to beat a pretty bad SIU team.

It's looking like they may not manage that.

[GoMuskies]

It's looking like they may not manage that.

Hoping not, because I'm fairly certain WSU would trash SIU and struggle with UNI.

The Valley has been fantastic so far. All four games.

[BMoreX]

8. Austin peay in a battle vs. 1. Belmont. 89[87 with 46 seconds left.

[X-band '01]

One more day to #RallyForRhyan - Let's Go Peay!

[X-band '01]

We were one missed FT away from having all 4 winning score 66 points today in the Valley. Damn you Indiana State!

[GoMuskies]

Fighting Kelseys are 7 minutes from a spot in the Big South finals.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Great semi game in the Valley, 47-47 23.6 left Wichita ball.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ot

arch madness!

[GoMuskies]

OT. Shockers 1 for 21 from 3.

[GoMuskies]

Kelseys win.

[D-West & PO-Z]

2/23 now, up 1,

[GoMuskies]

Gonna be lots of worrying in Wichita this week. Thankfully I'll be in NYC!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Down goes Wichita.

Was the Valley a 1 bid league? Did that just steal a bid?

[GoMuskies]

Shockers should be good, but I wouldn't want to spend a week in their shoes.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Shockers should be good, but I wouldn't want to spend a week in their shoes.

Yeah I figured they are in but now a team that wouldnt have been will be too right?

[GoMuskies]

Yep, uni, Evansville or Indiana State will steal from someone (hopefully UC).

[X-band '01]

Saint Joe's is another team sweating thanks to Wichita and Duquesne (Mighty Dukes beat the Hawks in Philly).

[paulxu]

Austin Peay!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Austin Peay!

Go Peay!

[BMoreX]

#InGovWeTrust

[X-band '01]

The 54-year wait for Yale is complete. First NCAA Tournament since JFK was still President.

[Xtemporaneous]

Let's Go Peay. Glad to see Dave Loos get it done in his final year.

[X-band '01]

Automatic bid tracker:

Ohio Valley - Austin Peay
Ivy - Yale

Championship games tomorrow/later today:

Atlantic Sun - Stetson* at FL-Gulf Coast, 7 PM (ESPN2)
Missouri Valley - Evansville v. Northern Iowa, 2:00 PM (CBS)
Big South - Winthrop v. UNC-Asheville, 2:30 PM (ESPN2)

*North Florida gets the automatic bid IF Stetson wins tomorrow by virtue of their regular season title; Stetson is ineligible for the NCAA Tournament because of an APR ban.

[Masterofreality]

Uh, Wichita State, a bed crap and now a 47 RPI.

and Gone-zaga a 66 RPI..problematic.

[GoMuskies]

Can Holy Cross beat Lehigh, too? The Cross will almost certainly be the 68th seed if they beat Lehigh. With a trip to Dayton looming, they may lose on purpose.

[GoMuskies]

Uh, Wichita State, a bed crap and now a 47 RPI.


ESPN Bracketology released today has Wichita State as a 7 seed and not one of the last 8 teams in.

CBS Sports released their bracket today, and it does not include the Shockers.

So.........somebody's way, way, WAY off.

[waggy]

Dance Card has Wichita the last team on the bubble I believe. The bubble line on the website is actually two teams off I think since neither Louisville or SMU are eligible. The Dance Card formula interestingly has Stanford in, and they aren't on many people's list I don't think.

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, I would not be at ALL surprised to see the Shockers exiled to Dayton. Or out completely at this point.

I would be VERY surprised to see them as a #7 seed.

[Masterofreality]

ESPN Bracketology released today has Wichita State as a 7 seed and not one of the last 8 teams in.

CBS Sports released their bracket today, and it does not include the Shockers.

So.........somebody's way, way, WAY off.

It's close, but I would say, IN, because the Committee will look at their injury situation. I'll say this, though. It's probably a battle for Wichita vs an extra team from the American or A10. Somebody's gonna wail.

I'm sure "Progressives" will blame the Koch Brothers for "fixing" the Selection.

[xubrew]

ESPN Bracketology released today has Wichita State as a 7 seed and not one of the last 8 teams in.

CBS Sports released their bracket today, and it does not include the Shockers.

So.........somebody's way, way, WAY off.

I think Wichita is in. Basically, I think they're in because I think the committee will take them. It's more qualitative than quantitative with me. A #7 seems a little high, but I think they're ahead of the First Four.

I've said this in other posts, but kind of similar to two years ago, I think the bracketologists are going to be a little off on a lot of teams this year.

[GoMuskies]

Fighting Kelseys are 20 minutes away with a 9 point lead. Would they be a 15 seed? Seems like a pretty good shot for Kelsey to get squashed by his alma mater in the first round.

[Masterofreality]

I think Wichita is in. Basically, I think they're in because I think the committee will take them. It's more qualitative than quantitative with me. A #7 seems a little high, but I think they're ahead of the First Four.

I've said this in other posts, but kind of similar to two years ago, I think the bracketologists are going to be a little off on a lot of teams this year.

Interesting pick for the Committee for the 10-11 seeds here though. Who to you pick and leave out from this group of at large? (Current RPI rank aside)

47. Wichita St.
48 Vanderbilt
49 Tulsa
50 Arkansas Little Rock
51 Hofstra
52 South Carolina
53 Monmouth
54 Pittsburgh
55 Connecticut
56 Florida
57 Temple

BTW. The SEC is ranked 6th, A10 is ranked 7th, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC IS RANKED 8th in conferences. The Valley is 13th! Wow!

[X-band '01]

Can Holy Cross beat Lehigh, too? The Cross will almost certainly be the 68th seed if they beat Lehigh. With a trip to Dayton looming, they may lose on purpose.

Lehigh would have 11 straight wins going into the championship Wednesday night - it's not the same as Peay facing a Belmont team that wasn't playing its best basketball. It would be a bigger upset if Holy Cross pulls that off.

[Masterofreality]

Fighting Kelseys are 20 minutes away with a 9 point lead. Would they be a 15 seed? Seems like a pretty good shot for Kelsey to get squashed by his alma mater in the first round.

Of course, Pat Kelsey would recruit a kid with the first name of Xavier for his team....all the way from Australia no less!

And this is a pretty damn good basketball game.

[waggy]

Wichita is top 10 in Pomeroy. That's gonna carry some weight with the committee.

[GoMuskies]

Wichita is top 10 in Pomeroy. That's gonna carry some weight with the committee.

#1 defense. Shitty offense.

[waggy]

Interesting pick for the Committee for the 10-11 seeds here though. Who to you pick and leave out from this group of at large? (Current RPI rank aside)

47. Wichita St.
48 Vanderbilt
49 Tulsa
50 Arkansas Little Rock
51 Hofstra
52 South Carolina
53 Monmouth
54 Pittsburgh
55 Connecticut
56 Florida
57 Temple

BTW. The SEC is ranked 6th, A10 is ranked 7th, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC IS RANKED 8th in conferences. The Valley is 13th! Wow!

Yeah the AAAAACK is a whole bunch of mediocre. UC and UConn are the only at larges imo. Tulsa maybe. Temple is like 90th in Pomeroy.

[X-band '01]

Yet another great moment for Northern Iowa basketball. Hated to see it happen at Evansville's expense, though.

[xubrew]

Interesting pick for the Committee for the 10-11 seeds here though. Who to you pick and leave out from this group of at large? (Current RPI rank aside)

47. Wichita St. - 11th OOC SOS
48 Vanderbilt - 24th
49 Tulsa - 106
50 Arkansas Little Rock - 266
51 Hofstra - 141
52 South Carolina - 263
53 Monmouth - 93
54 Pittsburgh - 186
55 Connecticut - 100
56 Florida - 5
57 Temple - 71

BTW. The SEC is ranked 6th, A10 is ranked 7th, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC IS RANKED 8th in conferences. The Valley is 13th! Wow!

I put the OOC SOS in your post above. The MVC is 13th. I don't think the committee really cares about that. I think they care a ton about OOC schedule strength. I'm not saying they should or shouldn't. I'm just saying I think that they will.

The lineup changes from year to year. Some individuals care about some things more than others. I think this year's group will care a lot about OOC scheudling. A case can be made for Wichita even without the strong OOC schedule. I think any team that can have a case made for them AND who played a tough OOC schedule is going in.

Just my opinion, but that's my guess.

[GoMuskies]

This is going to be three straight conference championship game losses for Kelsey. Hope he likes Rock Hill, SC. Not the worst place in the world to be "stuck".

[THRILLHOUSE]

Winthrop lives and dies by the 3, and were ice cold in the 2nd half. An especially bad game for Johnson who is 1 for 16.

[xubrew]

This is going to be three straight conference championship game losses for Kelsey. Hope he likes Rock Hill, SC. Not the worst place in the world to be "stuck".

This conference really needs to go back to the format where they play at campus sites. Winthrop should have played their tournament games at home. All of them. If you don't like that a team gets to play at home, then finish higher than them in the standings and then you get to play at home.

[GoMuskies]

This conference really needs to go back to the format where they play at campus sites. Winthrop should have played their tournament games at home. All of them. If you don't like that a team gets to play at home, then finish higher than them in the standings and then you get to play at home.

They were the 2 seed, though, right? So High Point may have beaten them to the home court advantage had they not had to play UNC-A on a neutral court.

[xubrew]

They were the 2 seed, though, right? So High Point may have beaten them to the home court advantage had they not had to play UNC-A on a neutral court.

YOu're right. I forgot about High Point being the #1 seed. After John Brown broke his foot I stopped thinking about them as the top team. But, they definitely were.

[X-band '01]

It's also hard for the Big South to play exclusively on campus sites without staggering the 4 rounds of conference tournament play. The A-Sun pulls off campus sites by playing on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday on the 1st half of Champ(ionship) Week.

[waggy]

Personally I think tournament games should be played at neutral sites.

[xubrew]

It's also hard for the Big South to play exclusively on campus sites without staggering the 4 rounds of conference tournament play. The A-Sun pulls off campus sites by playing on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday on the 1st half of Champ(ionship) Week.

Unless they played it at the site of the first place finisher, they'd have to stagger it. But, that can very easily be done.

[xubrew]

Personally I think tournament games should be played at neutral sites.

For leagues like the Big South, they hurt themselves by playing it at a neutral site. It hurts attendance because no one travels to it. Had they played the games at the better seeded team's campus the games would have sold out. It also takes away from the regular season and makes those games less interesting and less meaningful.

Look at the Horizon League. No one is there. The total attendance won't even be close to half. And, the regular season race for first place isn't nearly as meaningful or as exciting either.

[waggy]

Personally I think tournament games should be played at neutral sites.

[xubrew]

So after Monmouth loses to Fairfield, which at this point I'm pretty sure that they will, does the committee still take them??

[GoMuskies]

So after Monmouth loses to Fairfield, which at this point I'm pretty sure that they will, does the committee still take them??

I don't know. Wichita State/Monmouth play-in game in Dayton, maybe?

[Xavier]

Personally I think tournament games should be played at neutral sites.

Honestly, I think every conference tournament should be played at the 1 seeds place. But especially in the one-bid leagues. Frankly, the regular season champ should get the automatic bid anyways in my opinion, but at the very least the 1 seed should get the absolute easiest path to the finals while playing at home.

[xubrew]

I don't know. Wichita State/Monmouth play-in game in Dayton, maybe?

I seriously doubt Wichita is in the First Four. And, Monmouth is winning now, so maybe htey won't be either.

[XUFan09]

Honestly, I think every conference tournament should be played at the 1 seeds place. But especially in the one-bid leagues. Frankly, the regular season champ should get the automatic bid anyways in my opinion, but at the very least the 1 seed should get the absolute easiest path to the finals while playing at home.
Yeah, when you are a one-bid league, I think you need to consider what's best for the conference. The 1 seed should still have to earn it, but homecourt advantage is deserved.

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[X-band '01]

For leagues like the Big South, they hurt themselves by playing it at a neutral site. It hurts attendance because no one travels to it. Had they played the games at the better seeded team's campus the games would have sold out. It also takes away from the regular season and makes those games less interesting and less meaningful.

Look at the Horizon League. No one is there. The total attendance won't even be close to half. And, the regular season race for first place isn't nearly as meaningful or as exciting either.

Campbell is actually centrally located within the Big South; almost everyone was within 250 miles of the metropolis of Buies Creek.

[xubrew]

It was only three or four years ago that the Big South went to a predetermined site. The atmosphere today compared to when it was at campus sites isn't even close.

The atmosphere of the Atlantic Sun, Patriot League, and America East Tournaments compared to the Big South and Horizon League isn't even close either. I think they kinda ruined it. Well, I actually think it was more than "kind of."

The last night of the ASun regular season was amazing with all four games meaning something Had the tournament been at a predetermined site, none of the games would have really meant anything.

[X-band '01]

Automatic bid tracker:

Ohio Valley - Austin Peay
Ivy - Yale
Big South - UNC-Asheville
Missouri Valley - Northern Iowa
Atlantic Sun - Florida Gulf Coast

Championship games tomorrow/later today:

Colonial - Hofstra v. UNC-Wilmington, 7 PM (NBC Sports Network)
Metro Atlantic - Monmouth v. Iona, 7:00 PM (ESPN)
Southern - Chattanooga v. East Tennessee St., 9:00 PM (ESPN2)

If Wilmington beats Hofstra, the possibility exists for the Colonial to snatch a bid away from the bubble. The West Coast Conference also resumes tonight; both Gonzaga and St. Mary's need to win if their conference wants multiple bids.

[XUMIOH12]

pretty entertaining weekend of conference tournament games

[XUMIOH12]

It was only three or four years ago that the Big South went to a predetermined site. The atmosphere today compared to when it was at campus sites isn't even close.

The atmosphere of the Atlantic Sun, Patriot League, and America East Tournaments compared to the Big South and Horizon League isn't even close either. I think they kinda ruined it. Well, I actually think it was more than "kind of."

The last night of the ASun regular season was amazing with all four games meaning something Had the tournament been at a predetermined site, none of the games would have really meant anything.

for personal reasons, i like the horizon league being in Detroit. But, it makes for a pretty bad atmoshpere. Unless Detroit, Oakland, Valpo are playing then there pretty much will be nobody there. Especially with the last two rounds being on weekdays. It's not like fans of youngstown st or green bay are going to make the trip haha.

[XMuskieFTW]

for personal reasons, i like the horizon league being in Detroit. But, it makes for a pretty bad atmoshpere. Unless Detroit, Oakland, Valpo are playing then there pretty much will be nobody there. Especially with the last two rounds being on weekdays. It's not like fans of youngstown st or green bay are going to make the trip haha.

I actually got tickets for the final(They were only like 10 dollars) I've always enjoyed watching Oakland play, so if they can make the final I'll be the world's biggest Oakland fan for a day.

[DoubleD86]

A lot of people in here are more confident in Wichita State's chances than I am. Heck, Dance Card has them on the outside of the bubble. That is before we see what else happens in Conference Tourneys moving forward.

I think their advanced metrics will be a big help, but there are a number of teams that could help their resume (also hurt) this week and the possibility of bid stealers.

On an analytical note, Wichita has to to be the most interesting case in years. First, you have the injury adjustment that will be interesting. Second, you have a big disparity in advanced metrics and more traditional metrics. Third, you have a high level "mid-major" conference team so the SOS is interesting.

[Masterofreality]

A lot of people in here are more confident in Wichita State's chances than I am. Heck, Dance Card has them on the outside of the bubble. That is before we see what else happens in Conference Tourneys moving forward.

I think their advanced metrics will be a big help, but there are a number of teams that could help their resume (also hurt) this week and the possibility of bid stealers.

On an analytical note, Wichita has to to be the most interesting case in years. First, you have the injury adjustment that will be interesting. Second, you have a big disparity in advanced metrics and more traditional metrics. Third, you have a high level "mid-major" conference team so the SOS is interesting.

Well, Wichita probably deserves it over SucKS!

[paulxu]

Are you saying the 7th place team in the Aflac wouldn't win the Movac?

[xubrew]

A lot of people in here are more confident in Wichita State's chances than I am. Heck, Dance Card has them on the outside of the bubble. That is before we see what else happens in Conference Tourneys moving forward.

I think their advanced metrics will be a big help, but there are a number of teams that could help their resume (also hurt) this week and the possibility of bid stealers.

On an analytical note, Wichita has to to be the most interesting case in years. First, you have the injury adjustment that will be interesting. Second, you have a big disparity in advanced metrics and more traditional metrics. Third, you have a high level "mid-major" conference team so the SOS is interesting.

I don't think they'll consider the injury one way or another as far as it effects Wichita. When they say they look at injuries, they typically mean they do it in regards to who played them and who beat them. If a team beats Wichita without VanVleet, they get less credit than if they had beat them with VanVleet.

In other words, they consider injuries and suspensions for a team's opponents, but not for that actual team. And, even if they did, two of Wichita's more notable losses came when they had them, so you can't exactly ignore the games they lost without him when they had losses just as bad (or worse) with him.

Now, having said that, I think the committee will take Wichita State for the reasons I mentioned above. I think this committee will value road wins and out of conference strength of schedule, and Wichita is strong in both those categories. Keep in mind that two people can look at the same data and end up in different places. The more data there is, the more true that is. I think that there are multiple people on this year's committee that will strongly value those two categories this year. If different people were on the committee, they may value something else.

[XUFan09]

Brew, for me it's all cobbled together from different things I hear, but overall, what sounds like it will really matter to this Committee besides road wins and OOC schedule?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Blowhard Seth Greenberg already on TV hammering Mid Majors like Monmouth in favor of a team like Pitt.

Still bitter for all his VaTech bubble teams that missed out I guess!

[GoMuskies]

Jesus, this Championship Week has just been BRUTAL for the mid-major league champs. Monmouth and Wichita in Dayton would make for a good play-in game. Beats UC vs. Pitt. Barf.

[Juice]

Blowhard Seth Greenberg already on TV hammering Mid Majors like Monmouth in favor of a team like Pitt.

Still bitter for all his VaTech bubble teams that missed out I guess!

That's hilarious since Monmouth beat ND who finished 6th in the ACC. Where did Pitt finish? 9th.

[D-West & PO-Z]

That's hilarious since Monmouth beat ND who finished 6th in the ACC. Where did Pitt finish? 9th.

Yeah Lunardi and Jay Williams both disagreed with him but he was just trying to belittle Monmouth is every way.

[Masterofreality]

ESPN will never change their stripes. They used to insufferably pimp their old Big East product and now, that they basically re-engineererd the ACC and have the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC as one of their properties, they're pumping them too. They are truly disgusting....especially on their insistence that Erin Andrews submit to an on- camera interview about her Peeping Tom case.

Somehow, someway, I wish Fox Sports could knock them off their perch.

[xu82]

Greenberg is not just an idiot. He's an annoying idiot.

[Masterofreality]

Jesus, this Championship Week has just been BRUTAL for the mid-major league champs. Monmouth and Wichita in Dayton would make for a good play-in game. Beats UC vs. Pitt. Barf.

Valpo goes down too. Brutal is correct.

[XMuskieFTW]

So far, the 6 AQs(aside from Yale) have been seeds of 2, 2, 4, 4, 4, and 8. Wild. Would love to see no 1 seeds win their conference tourneys.

[GoMuskies]

So far, the 6 AQs(aside from Yale) have been seeds of 2, 2, 4, 4, 4, and 8. Wild. Would love to see no 1 seeds win their conference tourneys.

Particularly the Big East conference tournament!

[D-West & PO-Z]

ESPN will never change their stripes. They used to insufferably pimp their old Big East product and now, that they basically re-engineererd the ACC and have the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC as one of their properties, they're pumping them too. They are truly disgusting....especially on their insistence that Erin Andrews submit to an on- camera interview about her Peeping Tom case.

Somehow, someway, I wish Fox Sports could knock them off their perch.

Actually, surprisingly only Greenberg so far saying Monmouth shouldnt be in. Jay Williams, Lunardi, and Bilas all saying Monmouth should be in.

[XMuskieFTW]

Particularly the Big East conference tournament!

Exactly. Chattanooga ruined the streak though.

[xubrew]

Yeah Lunardi and Jay Williams both disagreed with him but he was just trying to belittle Monmouth is every way.

It's ESPN. I'm not so sure he was trying to belittle Monmouth so much as having three talking about how they all agree just isn't intriguing television.

[X-band '01]

It was hilarious to hear Joe Lunardi say that Greenberg was fully qualified to say who belonged in the NIT given his 20-year track record of consistently taking South Florida and Virginia Tech to the Not Invited Tournament.

[GIMMFD]

It was hilarious to hear Joe Lunardi say that Greenberg was fully qualified to say who belonged in the NIT given his 20-year track record of consistently taking South Florida and Virginia Tech to the Not Invited Tournament.

Wow, shots fired...

[X-band '01]

Speaking of teams evolving, this is not the same Wright State team that Xavier demolished back in December.

[XMuskieFTW]

Ugh. Was really pulling for Oakland. Felder was really bad tonight. Tough exit.

[XUMIOH12]

Actually, surprisingly only Greenberg so far saying Monmouth shouldnt be in. Jay Williams, Lunardi, and Bilas all saying Monmouth should be in.

Bilas couldnt mention enough that Monmouth should be in the tournament, during that game. He probably said it 50 times.

[XUMIOH12]

Valpo goes down too. Brutal is correct.

good. when Xavier is not on the bubble, its much more entertaining to see that.

[xu82]

It was hilarious to hear Joe Lunardi say that Greenberg was fully qualified to say who belonged in the NIT given his 20-year track record of consistently taking South Florida and Virginia Tech to the Not Invited Tournament.

I missed that, but now I like Lunardi just a little bit more.

[XUMIOH12]

I missed that, but now I like Lunardi just a little bit more.

i wish i would have heard that

[GoMuskies]

Gonzaga through to the WCC finals. Should be a good final tonight.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It was hilarious to hear Joe Lunardi say that Greenberg was fully qualified to say who belonged in the NIT given his 20-year track record of consistently taking South Florida and Virginia Tech to the Not Invited Tournament.

Wow he said that?! Classic!

[sgarcia]

Wow he said that?! Classic!

He said something like this is the 17th straight year Seth won't be coaching in the NCAA tournament. I almost spit out my drink. Jay Williams almost fell over laughing. It was classic.

[X-band '01]

Automatic bid tracker:

Ohio Valley - Austin Peay
Ivy - Yale
Big South - UNC-Asheville
Missouri Valley - Northern Iowa
Atlantic Sun - Florida Gulf Coast
Colonial - UNC-Wilmington
Metro Atlantic - Iona
Southern - Chattanooga

Championship games today:

Horizon - Wright State v. UW-Green Bay, 7:00 PM (ESPN)
Northeastern - Wagner v. Fairleigh Dickinson, 7 PM (ESPN2)
West Coast - Gonzaga v. St. Mary's, 9 PM (ESPN)
Summit - South Dakota St. v. North Dakota St., 9:00 PM (ESPN2)

The bubble gets even tighter if Gonzaga wins; a St. Mary's win all but relegates the Zags into the NIT.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the Florida State-Boston College pillow fight today. Do we cheer for Florida State to finish BC's perfect season in the ACC, or do we cheer for the Noles to be put out of their misery?

[muskiefan82]

OOH..........Battle of the Dakotas. That could be something. Summit Conference Border War!!

[XUMIOH12]

OOH..........Battle of the Dakotas. That could be something. Summit Conference Border War!!

should be a good game to watch, the 2 have combined to win the last 4 conference tournaments.

[Masterofreality]

OOH..........Battle of the Dakotas. That could be something. Summit Conference Border War!!

I expect there will be gunfights at the OK Corral and brawls in the saloons on the prairie over this one.
I've been to both North and South Dakota...and there is a LOT of empty land out there brother!

[xubrew]

I expect there will be gunfights at the OK Corral and brawls in the saloons on the prairie over this one.
I've been to both North and South Dakota...and there is a LOT of empty land out there brother!

Oh, so YOU'RE the one that's been there!!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Automatic bid tracker:


The bubble gets even tighter if Gonzaga wins; a St. Mary's win all but relegates the Zags into the NIT.



Why is St. Mary's in no matter what? Havent followed closely enough to know.

[Masterofreality]

Wake winning over NC State at the half.

[xubrew]

Why is St. Mary's in no matter what? Havent followed closely enough to know.

I don't understand why everyone likes Saint Mary's. When I say everyone, I pretty much mean everyone but me.

Their paper isn't that good, and if people think they make up for that with the "eye test," then I just don't know what the hell they're watching. Perhaps they should consider getting their eyes checked.

I like all of the following better than Saint Mary's. I know the committee doesn't like all these teams, but I think all of them beat Saint Mary's on a neutral floor the majority of the time

Wichita State
Valpo
Hofstra
Monmouth
San Diego State
Houston
Temple
Tulsa
Cincinnati
UConn
Saint Bonaventure
VCU
Stony Brook
Hawaii

Yes. Stony Brook and Hawaii are probably better than Saint Mary's. I know their paper isn't. I just think their teams are.

[Masterofreality]

St.Marys fits the ESPN narrative for the Pacific time zone content that they pumped Gonzaga for so much for so long. WCC stinks.

[XUMIOH12]

i dont think St. Mary's deserves the at large bid, but its tough to differentiate between a lot of the bubble teams. I dont think they have looked all that good in the few times i have seen them

[muskiefan82]

...and Wake Forest lets it slip away.

[XUMIOH12]

...and Wake Forest lets it slip away.

at this point, who cares

[muskiefan82]

Somebody must. Maybe. Maybe not, though. If two ACC teams with no shot to win anything other than the game they are playing now meet, did the game really happen?

[GoMuskies]

BC is my sleeper pick to win the ACC Tournament. Let's go Eagles!

[X-band '01]

I expect there will be gunfights at the OK Corral and brawls in the saloons on the prairie over this one.
I've been to both North and South Dakota...and there is a LOT of empty land out there brother!

Is it much different than going through Nebraska or Kansas cross-country?


OOH..........Battle of the Dakotas. That could be something. Summit Conference Border War!!

South Dakota State tried to give their game away to Denver last night, but Denver wouldn't let them.

[xubrew]

BC is my sleeper pick to win the ACC Tournament. Let's go Eagles!

That's not a sleeper pick. That's a coma pick.

[Masterofreality]

I expect there will be gunfights at the OK Corral and brawls in the saloons on the prairie over this one.
I've been to both North and South Dakota...and there is a LOT of empty land out there brother!


Is it much different than going through Nebraska or Kansas cross-country.

Colder.

[Masterofreality]

BC is my sleeper pick to win the ACC Tournament. Let's go Eagles!

You know, BC is totally overmatched in the ACC. They probably have some fat cat donors, but no way do they have the resources to compete in the major sports. They are getting slayed in football and basketball with little prospect of improvement. The Conte Forum isn't a very impressive building either, although it's probably all they could fit into the land they had with an 8,600 capacity.

I'm sure all the alums are proud of their inclusion in the ACC, but I'm sure they bitch and moan at the records. BC may have gotten too big for their Chestnut Hill britches.

[GoMuskies]

That Conte/Alumni Stadium facility is a complete hole. It certainly does not help BC that they're at best the fifth most popular sports brand in Boston. At best. UConn may have more fans in Boston than BC.

[xubrew]

That Conte/Alumni Stadium facility is a complete hole. It certainly does not help BC that they're at best the fifth most popular sports brand in Boston. At best. UConn may have more fans in Boston than BC.

Redsox, Celtics, Patriots, Bruins, .........huge drop off........New England Revolution............................Bigger drop off..................Boston College.

And, if you're going off of sports, BC basketball is also behind all four Bean Pot hockey teams.

[muskiefan82]

BC is in the wrong ACK! conference. They would be much better served in the AAC than the ACC. (although the money is better in the ACC, you will never compete on that level)

[X-band '01]

The football team had a clutch loss against Wake Forest and the basketball team had a VERY clutch loss at NC State last week to make the dream come true. Well done BC!

[GoMuskies]

They had to fend off ND at Fenway, too. That was a pretty tough game for their perfect record, but they managed.

[Masterofreality]

That Conte/Alumni Stadium facility is a complete hole. It certainly does not help BC that they're at best the fifth most popular sports brand in Boston. At best. UConn may have more fans in Boston than BC.

My son had an interest in going to BC at one point...until I discovered that it was about 33% more in tuition/room and board than XU, for example. He wound up going to Arizona State- transferred to Ohio U when he changed majors. Saved me a chunk of dough.

[XUFan09]

My son had an interest in going to BC at one point...until I discovered that it was about 33% more in tuition/room and board than XU, for example. He wound up going to Arizona State- transferred to Ohio U when he changed majors. Saved me a chunk of dough.
Not that this was your son, but this just reminded me of how many people I knew who were at Xavier because they didn't get into BC or they got waitlisted there. It was kind of strange. They were all sheltered people from Ohio or Indiana, so I imagine they viewed BC as THE Northeast Jesuit school, and if they couldn't get that, they'd just go to the Jesuit school nearby. Never mind that Fordham and Holy Cross (two that I applied to) are both really good, and there are a few other good ones up there too.

By the way, check out the current front-page image for the Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities.

http://www.ajcunet.edu/institutions/

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[X-band '01]

Thought Bellarmine University was Jesuit as well - I guess not.

[GIMMFD]

Not that this was your son, but this just reminded me of how many people I knew who were at Xavier because they didn't get into BC or they got waitlisted there. It was kind of strange. They were all sheltered people from Ohio or Indiana, so I imagine they viewed BC as THE Northeast Jesuit school, and if they couldn't get that, they'd just go to the Jesuit school nearby. Never mind that Fordham and Holy Cross (two that I applied to) are both really good, and there are a few other good ones up there too.

By the way, check out the current front-page image for the Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities.

http://www.ajcunet.edu/institutions/

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BC was actually the only college that didn't accept me, I was kind of confused, I got into Boston University and Wake Forest, but I didn't get into BC. Oh well, screw them, I got to come to Xavier, and find this board, and meet all of you degenerates, so I guess it worked out for the better for me right?

[xubrew]

BC will let anyone go there for free. But, the deal is that they have to play on their basketball team. Probably not worth it.

[xu82]

BC will let anyone go there for free. But, the deal is that they have to play on their basketball team. Probably not worth it.

DAMN! Now you tell me. I tried to transfer to BC after my sophomore year (for some reason I can't even remember, other than maybe I love Boston?), and was told I needed a 3.4 GPA to be considered. I had a 3.3 GPA at the time. I should have told them I wasn't even trying, and more importantly I was absolutely somewhat competent in the 6' and under rec hoops league at Xavier (for which I had to cheat by slumping down an inch or two). I bet the not trying and cheating, plus my hoops mediocrity, would have made me a highly recruited prospect. Maybe.

[QueensbridgeMF]

Wow, lotta hoops talk tonight. How 'bout those Zags huh?

[GIMMFD]

In other news, our beloved Wright State goes down to Green Bay tonight in the final, and hopefully Gonzaga follows suit. I'm sick of hearing everyone's obsession with them because nobody else plays at midnight.

[X-band '01]

Given both of their inabilities to win their conference tournaments, Wright State and Winthrop would be a perfect CIT matchup.

[QueensbridgeMF]

Battle of Dakota States is fun. Tu's d-league on the U

[xubrew]

Wright State has been in the HL final three of the past four years.

Wright State has lost the HL final three of the last four years.

I've liked Valpo all year, but I don't see how they're an NCAA team. I don't think I could make a strong argument for them if I wanted to.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Vitale keeps touting Gonzaga's SOS as one reason they should get in. Two problems with that:

1. They lost to almost every good team they played.
2. Their SOS is in the 140's.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Up 8 with 2:24 left though so it might not matter for the Zags.

[xubrew]

I wish I was calling this game. Dick Vitale keeps talking about how both teams belong in. I'd be on the air saying that neither team belonged in without the automatic. And, I'd be right. And, the fans watching the game would be flipping their shit, which would be hilarious.

Just once I'd like to hear an announcer say "No, neither of these teams are all that good, and neither is worthy of a bid if they don't win the tournament."

[QueensbridgeMF]

I'd call game but I thought the same down 8 in ot to WV in ot wit the same time

[xu82]

I wish I was calling this game. Dick Vitale keeps talking about how both teams belong in. I'd be on the air saying that neither team belonged in without the automatic. And, I'd be right. And, the fans watching the game would be flipping their shit, which would be hilarious.

Just once I'd like to hear an announcer say "No, neither of these teams are all that good, and neither is worthy of a bid if they don't win the tournament."

It would be less funny if they were flipping it at you. (Or certainly ME!). I have a hard time listening to Vitale.

[xubrew]

Remember how everyone said all year long that Gonzaga wasn't all that good??

Well, they're still not.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Dick Vitale on if St. Mary's doesnt get in:

"I'll be calling my uncle Luigi man! There's gonna be problems!"

WTF?

[xubrew]

If Dick Vitale is doing the ACC Tournament this year, in less than 48 hours he'll be talking about how rough the league is and how a 9-9 team from that league should be in the field because they don't get to play in an easy conference.

Saint Mary's shouldn't be in, and teams like Florida State, Georgia Tech, and Virginia Tech really shouldn't be either. But, Dick Vitale will want them all in.

[D-West & PO-Z]

If Dick Vitale is doing the ACC Tournament this year, in less than 48 hours he'll be talking about how rough the league is and how a 9-9 team from that league should be in the field because they don't get to play in an easy conference.

Saint Mary's shouldn't be in, and teams like Florida State, Georgia Tech, and Virginia Tech really shouldn't be either. But, Dick Vitale will want them all in.

Yeah Lunardi had to say that tonight to the announcers tonight. Not everyone can get it.

[X-band '01]

Automatic bid tracker:

Ohio Valley - Austin Peay
Ivy - Yale
Big South - UNC-Asheville
Missouri Valley - Northern Iowa
Atlantic Sun - Florida Gulf Coast
Colonial - UNC-Wilmington
Metro Atlantic - Iona
Southern - Chattanooga
Horizon - UW-Green Bay
Northeastern - Fairleigh Dickinson
West Coast - Gonzaga
Summit - South Dakota State

Championship games today:

Patriot - Holy Cross at Lehigh, 7:30 PM (CBS Sports Network)

Today is also the day where every conference except the American and the Sun Belt will have gotten their conference tournament underway. Both of those conferences also have big stakes when it comes to the bubble this year.

[EastCoastXman]

Speaking of ACC and Dickie V and Va Tech. Did anyone catch the piece this morning on Fox & Friends with Buzz and Va Tech? Apparently, the team was not showing respect during the playing of the National Anthem. He brought in vets to practice and made them line up with them while The Anthem played. Good job Buzz!

[Masterofreality]

Hey East Coast..What are you hearing on the advance ticket sales for the BE Tournament?

[muskiefan82]

It was okay. He kept referring to the "men" who gave so much so these kids could play basketball and go to school. Over and over, he said these "men" never once acknowledging the women who were standing in that same group. While the message was great, he missed wide during the delivery.

[Cheesehead]

Speaking of ACC and Dickie V and Va Tech. Did anyone catch the piece this morning on Fox & Friends with Buzz and Va Tech? Apparently, the team was not showing respect during the playing of the National Anthem. He brought in vets to practice and made them line up with them while The Anthem played. Good job Buzz!

I saw that too and I don't want to be cynical but Buzz left a bad taste in my mouth after he left Marquette. I would have liked it better if no cameras were around. I just felt like Buzz had to be show everyone what a great person he is by doing this. The guy has a strong ego.

[GoMuskies]

Hey East Coast..What are you hearing on the advance ticket sales for the BE Tournament?

I bought on Ticketmaster for Thursday, and I got 213 row 13. Those are pretty decent seats, so there are clearly still plenty available.

[Masterofreality]

I bought on Ticketmaster for Thursday, and I got 213 row 13. Those are pretty decent seats, so there are clearly still plenty available.

I just want there to be good crowds so that the nay sayers can't diss the league unduly.

[xubrew]

I just want there to be good crowds so that the nay sayers can't diss the league unduly.

What are you talking about MOR??

If we have good crowds, then those who diss the league will be unduly doing so.

If we have bad crowds it'll be warranted, but with good crowds it won't be.

Are you saying you prefer warranted criticism to unduly criticism MOR??

WHAT THE HELL'S UP WITH THAT MOR??

ALWAYS A HATER!!!!

[Masterofreality]

What are you talking about MOR??

If we have good crowds, then those who diss the league will be unduly doing so.

If we have bad crowds it'll be warranted, but with good crowds it won't be.

Are you saying you prefer warranted criticism to unduly criticism MOR??

WHAT THE HELL'S UP WITH THAT MOR??

ALWAYS A HATER!!!!

:lol::lol::lol::lol:..HA!

[X-band '01]

Meanwhile, Butler's old Hinkle clocks resurfaced in the ACC Tournament this afternoon. It took forever to play the opening minutes because one of the shot clocks weren't synced with the other shot clock/game clock.

[xubrew]

meanwhile, butler's old hinkle clocks resurfaced in the acc tournament this afternoon. It took forever to play the opening minutes because one of the shot clocks weren't synced with the other shot clock/game clock.

nothing in dc works!!! Nothing!!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Pitt beat Syracuse.

[GoMuskies]

Pitt beat Syracuse.

Shocker Nation rejoices.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Shocker Nation rejoices.

Why's that? Did they beat Pitt?

[GoMuskies]

Why's that? Did they beat Pitt?

I just figure this has to put them in front of Syracuse in the pecking order if they were not already. They'll want Pitt to lose to UNC tomorrow.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I just figure this has to put them in front of Syracuse in the pecking order if they were not already. They'll want Pitt to lose to UNC tomorrow.

Yeah I'd think they are in front of both. Might have been best for all bubble teams though if Pitt lost. A lot of what I am hearing is people think Syracuse is still in and Pitt just got themselves in, but that doesnt mean it is the case.

[chico]

Shocker Nation rejoices.

Anytime Syracuse gets beat the entire nation rejoices.

[EastCoastXman]

MOR

Have not been hearing much. Trying to get last bit of work done before this 4 day vacation. Heading into NYC tonight for the XU event at Sardi's. I will be parked in Section 8 (right behind the basket) row 9 for the next 4 days. The word from my SHU contingent is they are expecting to send quite a few fans to MSG. Their fans will grow with each win so we need Creighton to send them back to South Orange on Thursday. Leave the Lobsters!! Providence was well represented the last 2 years and we all know that Nova will be drawing from their alumni for Thurs and then more students Friday/Saturday. St Johns and SHU had about 13k for their recent game at MSG but the Red Storm should be gone by midnight. Their fan base will be scalping tickets later tonight.

Just a heads up for anyone coming from out of town. There is a pending NJ Transit strike that is to go into effect at midnight (12:01AM on Sunday March 13). So if you were planning on staying in NYC Saturday night after our BE Championship win make other plans to get back to NJ after midnight.

[Masterofreality]

Thanks East Coast.

No way that Syracuse can be selected. No F-ing way, no matter how Joe ESPN Lunardi spins it. After today's loss they are 67 in RPI and even before the loss today they were down at 74 in KPI. They have a horrible record against the NCAA field and are bad 5-8 vs the Top 50.

The ESPN honks will pump all the ACC teams as being locks because they have their self interest involved, but buy NO measure does Syracuse deserve a bid.

[xubrew]

Thanks East Coast.

No way that Syracuse can be selected. No F-ing way, no matter how Joe ESPN Lunardi spins it. After today's loss they are 67 in RPI and even before the loss today they were down at 74 in KPI. They have a horrible record against the NCAA field and are bad 5-8 vs the Top 50.

The ESPN honks will pump all the ACC teams as being locks because they have their self interest involved, but buy NO measure does Syracuse deserve a bid.

Dick Vitale will be screaming from the rooftops that Syracuse belongs in and how it's not fair that they played so many good teams and got left out. This will happen less than 24 hours after he was screaming from the rooftops that Saint Mary's belonged in and that it's not fair that teams won't play them.

Truthfully, neither belongs in.

[XUFan09]

God, Grayson Allen has such a punchable face. He looks like a douchy version of George McFly.

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[xubrew]

If Stanford hurries they can catch the earlier flight back to the Bay Area and be home in time for the evening session games!!

[xubrew]

If Stanford hurries they can catch the earlier flight back to the Bay Area and be home in time for the evening session games!!

Oh wait, it's the Pac Twelve. I'm sure they charter. Nevermind.

[X-band '01]

God, Grayson Allen has such a punchable face. He looks like a douchy version of George McFly.

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Unfortunately, it was Marshall Plumlee who took an inadvertent shot to the nose a few minutes before Allen got whistled for the flagrant. That flagrant plus a 4-pt play on the prior possession gave NC State momentum and damn near cost Duke the game.

That said, how much would Macura be hated if he played for Duke?

[XUFan09]

Unfortunately, it was Marshall Plumlee who took an inadvertent shot to the nose a few minutes before Allen got whistled for the flagrant. That flagrant plus a 4-pt play on the prior possession gave NC State momentum and damn near cost Duke the game.

That said, how much would Macura be hated if he played for Duke?
I wish it HAD cost them the game.

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[xu82]

Unfortunately, it was Marshall Plumlee who took an inadvertent shot to the nose a few minutes before Allen got whistled for the flagrant. That flagrant plus a 4-pt play on the prior possession gave NC State momentum and damn near cost Duke the game.

That said, how much would Macura be hated if he played for Duke?

People would quit their jobs to hate him full time.

[xubrew]

Unfortunately, it was Marshall Plumlee who took an inadvertent shot to the nose a few minutes before Allen got whistled for the flagrant. That flagrant plus a 4-pt play on the prior possession gave NC State momentum and damn near cost Duke the game.

That said, how much would Macura be hated if he played for Duke?

I hated the A10, but a part of me kind of misses being hated by the rest of the league. Hopefully the Big East will start to hate us soon.

[MADXSTER]

Anytime Syracuse gets beat the entire nation rejoices.

Amen Brother

[xubrew]

Apparently the American is giving away tickets. I'm not kidding. If you tweet at the Amway Center, they'll GIVE you a ticket.

MOR, your thoughts??

[Masterofreality]

Apparently the American is giving away tickets. I'm not kidding. If you tweet at the Amway Center, they'll GIVE you a ticket.

MOR, your thoughts??

Nothing but total amusement. I really don't want to burn brain cells trying to be clever about the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC.
I'm glad that they found a temporary home, however. No one should be stuck without a roof over their heads.

[xubrew]

I believe a good friend of mine is there. He actually paid for his tickets.

[QueensbridgeMF]

Let's go Holy Cross! A true Cinderella (and my dad's Alma mater).

[QueensbridgeMF]

20-6 HC 15 minutes in. Lehigh struggling against the 1-3-1 defense

[XMuskieFTW]

This game is the best.

[LA Muskie]

My God, Boeheim is a whiny, whiny bitch. Even with him on the sidelines they were a borderline (at best) pick. They've lost 5 of their last 6 -- with the lone win being against a bad NC St. at home. But I guess those should be ignored too?


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[QueensbridgeMF]

My God, Boeheim is a whiny, whiny bitch. Even with him on the sidelines they were a borderline (at best) pick. They've lost 5 of their last 6 -- with the lone win being against a bad NC St. at home. But I guess those should be ignored too?


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And they were just saying the committee treats it like an injury (the 9 games). What!! He was f'ING suspended for violations! Have not heard this angle by anyone on tv. Not. In.

[LA Muskie]

That comment came from Castiglione (this year's Committee chair). But that's a personal opinion of his, and several former Committee members said it wouldn't have been a factor in their eyes.


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[QueensbridgeMF]

HC just ran a slow break

[XMuskieFTW]

This game is so horribly good.

[GoMuskies]

Having K State -5 just sucked.

[XMuskieFTW]

Holy cross wins 4 straight road games to win the conference tourney after a regular season of 10-19. Look out Kansas!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Holy cross wins 4 straight road games to win the conference tourney after a regular season of 10-19. Look out Kansas!

Probably have to win one in Dayton before they get to KU.

[chico]

Welcome back Billy Carmody. Gotta love March.

[QueensbridgeMF]

Holy Cross regarding season road 0-9 tourney 4-0

[Masterofreality]

Fordham still sucks. Down 17 to Richmond with a minute to go in Half 1...in front if about 4,000 people.

[X-band '01]

If Fordham couldn't beat Boston College at Barclays, why did you think they could beat Richmond?

[Masterofreality]

If Fordham couldn't beat Boston College at Barclays, why did you think they could beat Richmond?

Yeah, but now F-m is only down 4!

[muskiefan82]

Welcome back Billy Carmody. Gotta love March.

Sometimes the only way into the tourney is to leave Northwestern.

[Masterofreality]

Sometimes the only way into the tourney is to leave Northwestern.

Well, Michigan may have just done that...surviving Northwestern in overtime.

[X-band '01]

Akron escapes for now; UAB about to join an overflow crowd of regular season champs in the NIT.

[X-band '01]

For Xavier, having Western Kentucky beat UAB is an unexpected bonus.

[GIMMFD]

If Fordham couldn't beat Boston College at Barclays, why did you think they could beat Richmond?

Yet they beat St. John's... *sigh*

[MADXSTER]

And DUKE about to go down to Notre Dame

[Masterofreality]

And DUKE about to go down to Notre Dame

They're just positioning themselves to play Xavier.

[muskiefan82]

And DUKE about to go down to Notre Dame

I can't tell a lie. This makes me happy.

[Xville]

what the heck has happened to Iowa....they have turned into a mediocre basketball team

[Masterofreality]

what the heck has happened to Iowa....they have turned into a mediocre basketball team

They were mediocre before the Big 10 in-conference started, got well in a way overrated league, and is now returning to form.

[X-band '01]

Grayson Allen pouts, Internet rejoices.

[Masterofreality]

The AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC's "announced attendance" for today's doubleheader was 8,723.

They must have all been in the concourse at the concession stands......for about 5 hours, because they certainly were NOT in their seats.

On an unrelated note, the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC Minister of Information has been nominated for Best Work of Fiction by the New York Writers Guild.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Nebraska up 6 on Wisky with 1:27 left.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Nebraska up 6 on Wisky with 1:27 left.

And they are going to do it.

Illinois then Nebraska, what is going on in Big 10 tourney?

[XUFan09]

Oklahoma survives Iowa State. A loss there would have eliminated Oklahoma as a potential 1 seed. Oh well.

[Masterofreality]

I know that I'm focused on attendance, but it is interesting to me...especially when it comes to the money aspect that accrues to the schools.

Basically, yesterday's Big East afternoon session alone had equivalent attendance to what the entire A10 Tourney has drawn so far. Of course, today will be better in Brooklyn with all of the Cryers and VCU hill jacks that will show up, and I know that the Big East Tourney is not fully selling out like before, but we have 10 schools vs 14 or 16 like in the A10 and old Big East. It was incredibly worth it to keep Madison Square Garden as the venue. Major League all the way. Look at the joke that the Hobo-esque AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC has become. No permanent home and now they're having the Iraqui Information Minister putting out falsehoods about 8,723 mannequins allegedly sitting in the Amway Center seats.

41,280- Big East attendance so far (3 sessions)
17,549- A10 attendance so far. (3 sessions)
*8,723* - alleged. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC attendance so far (one sessions)

I love this league.



Just keep building the brand baby, and let's get at least 2 teams in the Elite 8 and at least one Final Four this year. It wil, help if St. John's can actually become relevant again too.

[Masterofreality]

There are literally tens of people at Amway Center in Orlando for Temple /S.Florida

[GoMuskies]

I'm at Barclays. The two Big East games tonight are not enough for me.

[Masterofreality]

I'm at Barclays. The two Big East games tonight are not enough for me.

With an intimate gathering of VD fans? You are a brave soul, sir.

[GoMuskies]

Definitely an intimate gathering, but Dayton brought some fans.

[GIMMFD]

Oklahoma survives Iowa State. A loss there would have eliminated Oklahoma as a potential 1 seed. Oh well.

I don't think Oklahoma survives WVU today, the opening Vegas line was a pick-em, meaning they are baiting people to take Oklahoma. Vegas knows... Plus it's the 3rd time seeing a good team, if WVU hits shots, you never know. Though I doubt it'll drop Oklahoma from a 1 seed, hopefully it doesn't let WVU jump us.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I don't think Oklahoma survives WVU today, the opening Vegas line was a pick-em, meaning they are baiting people to take Oklahoma. Vegas knows... Plus it's the 3rd time seeing a good team, if WVU hits shots, you never know. Though I doubt it'll drop Oklahoma from a 1 seed, hopefully it doesn't let WVU jump us.

I dont think OU is a 1 seed. They will need to win Big 12 tourney or at least lose a close one in finals to KU.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I dont think OU is a 1 seed. They will need to win Big 12 tourney or at least lose a close one in finals to KU.

Mostly bc I think whoever wins the ACC (if its UNC or UVA) will get one. Then you have Nova (or us), Mich St, and obviously KU.