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MADXSTER
02-25-2016, 04:28 PM
1993 vs 1994
#5 Xavier University Musketeers (25-3) RPI 3, SOS 32, KENPOM 10
W Miami(OH) 81-72
W Missouri 78-66
W Michigan 86-70
W NKU 78-66
W Alabama 64-45
W USC 87-77
W _ayton 90-61
W Western Kentucky 95-64
W Wright State 90-55
W Cincinnati 65-55
W Auburn 85-61
W Wake Forest 78-70
L Villanova 95-64
W Butler 88-69
W St Johns 74-66
W DePaul 84-64
W Marquette 74-66
L Georgetown 81-72
W Seton Hall 84-76
W Providence 75-68
W DePaul 86-65
W St John's 90-83
W Marquette 90-82
L Creighton 70-56
W Butler 74-57
W Providence 85-74
W Georgetown 88-70
W Villanova 90-83
vs Seton Hall Pirates (19-7) RPI 44, SOS 76, KENPOM 34
W Dartmouth 84-67
W Wagner 69-59
L Long Beach St 80-77
W Bradley 67-59
W Mississippi 75-63
W Georgia 69-62
L George Washington 72-64
W Rutgers 84-55
W Troy 78-69
W Saint Peter's 72-46
W Witchita State 80-76
W South Florida 66-49
W Marquette 83-63
W DePaul 78-74
L Villanova 72-63
L Creighton 82-67
W Providence 81-72
L Villanova 72-71
L Xavier 84-76
W St John's 79-60
W Creighton 75-65
W Marquette 79-62
W Georgetown 69-61
L Butler 81-75
W Georgetown 72-64
W St John's 62-61
?? Providence 2/25
Location: At Providence
Sundayday February 28th 2016 at 12:30pm EST
Television: FS1
Radio: 700WLW-AM with play-by-play from Xavier Hall of Famer and former Musketeer standout Joe Sunderman ('79). Analysis will be provided by Xavier Hall of Famer and XU all-time leading scorer Byron Larkin ('88).
MADXSTER
02-25-2016, 04:32 PM
Seton Hall needs this game as a resume builder. Seton Hall will get into the tournament. 19 wins with 4 regular season games and BET games. They should end up with 21/22 wins respectively. A win against Xavier would solidify a bid and improve their seed.
blueblob06
02-25-2016, 04:32 PM
I think you mean Location of Prudential Center, not Cintas.
Let's get this win X!
GoMuskies
02-25-2016, 04:34 PM
I expect Xavier to be a 1.5 or 2 point favorite. This one will be very tough.
MADXSTER
02-25-2016, 04:34 PM
Seton Hall plays Providence tonight at 7pm on FS1.
Xville
02-25-2016, 04:34 PM
I think its going to be pretty tough mentally for our guys at the beginning of this game. I just hope that they can focus and get out of there with a win. It's going to be pretty tough though.
markchal
02-25-2016, 04:43 PM
They struggled to beat St. John's. We are playing our best basketball of the year. I know their fans will be jacked because they need this one in a huge way, but I expect a game similar to Georgetown, where we are just too much for them and win by 10+.
XMuskieFTW
02-25-2016, 04:53 PM
Seton Hall plays Providence tonight at 7pm on FS1.
This game is huge for both teams. Seton hall probably needs it more because they have us and at butler and at DePaul left whereas providence has DePaul and Creighton at home and at st johns left.
Coach Mack clearly has the talent to go far. His most important job now is getting them to peak at just the right time.
XUFan09
02-25-2016, 05:07 PM
I agree that Seton Hall needs it more than Xavier (their bid is very likely but would be guaranteed with a win). I just hope there aren't fans treating them as desperate if Xavier loses this game. And this team has never suffered from emotional letdowns this year, so I doubt that will be an issue. The primary factors in Seton Hall's favor are that they match up fairly well with Xavier and they're playing on their home court. It's already a pretty tough game in a vacuum, and once again, the external factors probably won't be as significant as some might believe.
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Does anyone think Seton Hall should rush the court if they win?
(With apologies. Sometimes I just can't help myself.)
Caveat
02-25-2016, 05:17 PM
Has "let down" game written all over it, and that's without even considering how well SH has been playing recently.
Hopefully Mack and the coaching staff will have the team moved on and ready to play.
GoMuskies
02-25-2016, 05:21 PM
Only about 65 hours of rest for Seton Hall after tonight!!!!!
MADXSTER
02-25-2016, 05:26 PM
Mack only needs to remind the guys about the GT and Creighton games and the guys will be ready to play.
XUFan09
02-25-2016, 05:29 PM
Has "let down" game written all over it, and that's without even considering how well SH has been playing recently.
Hopefully Mack and the coaching staff will have the team moved on and ready to play.
Like I just said, this team has never really been affected by their previous game. I guarantee they are just as confident before beating Villanova as they are now after, because before the game, they already "knew" they were going to win. So, nothing has changed other than the added satisfaction of actually beating them. Plus, the game is on Sunday, so they actually have extra prep time before the game.
This game is tough because Seton Hall is good, plain and simple.
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XUGRAD80
02-25-2016, 05:37 PM
When teams/athletes have an emotional win like X just did it can go two ways. Some teams/individuals will have a letdown and their performance in the next contest will suffer. However, in my experience, the ones that become champions build upon that victory and their performance remains at that same high level. A victory such as X just had can give them additional confidence and even a "swagger" that makes them a very difficult team to defeat. Looking back over the year we have seen the team have many big "tests", and many big successes, and I have not seen them have a letdown after any of them. For that reason, I am not concerned with a letdown. However, I am concerned that they might be looking ahead and could possibly overlook Seton Hall. I don't see this as a strong possibility, but it is still a possibility. I trust that Mack will do all in his power to keep this from happening and I expect another win.
XUFan09
02-25-2016, 05:48 PM
Luckily, their next game is Creighton. I'm happy they don't have a big opponent at the end of the year, though I still don't know if that would affect them.
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GoMuskies
02-25-2016, 05:51 PM
I think most would consider the shit performance against NKU a letdown post-Michigan.
XUGRAD80
02-25-2016, 05:58 PM
I think most would consider the shit performance against NKU a letdown post-Michigan.
Forgot about that one, I admit.
XUFan09
02-25-2016, 06:30 PM
I think most would consider the shit performance against NKU a letdown post-Michigan.
That's much more about oftentimes taking it way to easy against crappy teams. It's been a fairly consistent thing this season.
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markchal
02-25-2016, 07:07 PM
Has "let down" game written all over it, and that's without even considering how well SH has been playing recently.
Hopefully Mack and the coaching staff will have the team moved on and ready to play.
Didn't SH almost lose to SJU last game? Am I the only one expecting us to win comfortably (I know they are decent, but we play decent teams better than crap teams).
XUFan09
02-25-2016, 07:08 PM
Didn't SH almost lose to SJU last game? Am I the only one expecting us to win comfortably (I know they are decent, but we play decent teams better than crap teams).
This is true. If Kenpom did a separate ranking for games vs. A and B opponents (opponents equivalent to top 50 and top 100 teams on a neutral court), Xavier would probably easily be in the top 5.
Edit: Just to break it down, here are the victory margins against teams outside the Kenpom top 200:
7, 8, 9, 12, 31
Those aren't even respectable margins for a borderline top 50 team. Here are the margins against teams in the 100 to 200 range:
8, 12, 20, 21, 24
The 8-point margin in this case is Wake Forest, who was actually borderline top 100 at the time and playing on their court, so we can toss that one out for being unlike the others. It appears that Xavier nicely handles bad teams, though they don't blow them out by 30+ like they should. However, they have really not been good this year against really bad teams. When you watch the games, you see why: They're playing really loose and don't really care. I mean, fans don't entirely care either, so it's hard to blame them.
GIMMFD
02-25-2016, 07:16 PM
I think it's going to be a tough game, but I have no doubt we're going to use the Nova win and propel confidence from it. Come out guns blazing, punch them in the mouth like we did to Nova, and let's move up in the top 3!! FLAGSHIP
Roach
02-25-2016, 09:01 PM
Like I said a few days ago (and got a little ribbed for it), this game scares me more than Nova did. Seton Hall has nothing to lose and everything to gain. Even with a loss, they're a likely tournament team. With a win, they get a better seed. Even if I were to discount the potential emotional hangover after Nova, this game would still scare me. It's the same reason I was nervous about the Creighton game - a good opponent on its home court, playing a top 5 team, hoping to improve its resume. This will not be an easy win.
Roach
02-25-2016, 09:06 PM
That said, I fully expect JP to bring his gangsta swag on Saturday. I've noticed throughout the season that when his intensity and tendency to get under opponents' skin is more noticeable, they rub off on the rest of the team. He really is a catalyst, and I tend to think his performance last night will only bolster his intensity on Saturday.
XUFan09
02-25-2016, 10:40 PM
Seton Hall has nothing to lose and everything to gain. Even with a loss, they're a likely tournament team. With a win, they get a better seed.
Xavier is still a tournament team with a loss, and with a win, they have a chance at a higher seed too.
I'll repeat: Seton Hall will be tough because they're a good team playing at home. None of the rest matters nearly as much as that simple fact.
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Olsingledigit
02-25-2016, 10:48 PM
sH dismantled PC tonight. It will be a tough game but I believe our guys will be ready.
GoMuskies
02-25-2016, 10:50 PM
sH dismantled PC tonight. It will be a tough game but I believe our guys will be ready.
You'd hope, but hopefully there won't be a letdown. Seton Hall will be a desperate team on Sunday, and that's always dangerous.
X-band '01
02-25-2016, 11:26 PM
What were the students supposed to be dressed up as in the Seton Hall student section?
nasdadjr
02-26-2016, 02:22 AM
I expect Xavier to be a 1.5 or 2 point favorite. This one will be very tough.
I promise the line will start at Xavier minus 4 or right around there. Book it
QueensbridgeMF
02-26-2016, 07:58 AM
Didn't SH almost lose to SJU last game? Am I the only one expecting us to win comfortably (I know they are decent, but we play decent teams better than crap teams).
Didn't we almost lose @ st johns? Yep, I was there.
Roach
02-26-2016, 08:13 AM
Since joining the Big East, X has yet to beat Seton Hall on the road. Again, a win will require a huge effort by the team.
XUMIOH12
02-26-2016, 08:25 AM
Only about 65 hours of rest for Seton Hall after tonight!!!!!
Not nearly enough! You need at least a week off between games.
XUMIOH12
02-26-2016, 08:32 AM
I would throw a good amount of 1-3-1 at them again. Worked pretty well last time. They just arent a great shooting team from 3. Whitehead has been great the last few weeks though.
Caveat
02-26-2016, 08:48 AM
Since joining the Big East, X has yet to beat Seton Hall on the road. Again, a win will require a huge effort by the team.
To be fair, though, last year's road Seton Hall game was very similar to this year's road Nova game -- that was the game where Matt Stainbrook went down screaming in pain for what seemed almost certain to be a torn ACL. Didn't play at all in the second half.
markchal
02-26-2016, 09:15 AM
Didn't we almost lose @ st johns? Yep, I was there.
That game never felt in jeopardy and even so, I think any rationa person would realize we are playing much, much better than we were then.
GoMuskies
02-26-2016, 09:17 AM
That game never felt in jeopardy
I thought it was in jeopardy when St. John's hoisted an open 3 down 2 with less than a minute to play.
THRILLHOUSE
02-26-2016, 09:25 AM
To be fair, though, last year's road Seton Hall game was very similar to this year's road Nova game -- that was the game where Matt Stainbrook went down screaming in pain for what seemed almost certain to be a torn ACL. Didn't play at all in the second half.
That was the 2014 game. Last year's game X was just awful on defense, gave up 52 2nd half points.
XMuskieFTW
02-26-2016, 09:26 AM
That game never felt in jeopardy and even so, I think any rationa person would realize we are playing much, much better than we were then.
I was also there and it felt very much in question until the Mussini technical.
RealDeal
02-26-2016, 09:36 AM
I thought it was in jeopardy when St. John's hoisted an open 3 down 2 with less than a minute to play.
Well besides that.
EastCoastXman
02-26-2016, 09:42 AM
Students have gone with the "Lobster Theme". A bunch of Frat guys picked the suits up and it has stuck
EastCoastXman
02-26-2016, 09:49 AM
Was at Pru Center last night for SHU and Providence. Dunn and Bullock were sick and throwing up throughout the game. Dunn was not a factor. Bentil went off on SHU until he got Flagrant 2 for decking Desi Rodriguez on a layup. SHU is really pumped for Sunday. It will be Senior Day so the crowd will be pumped (Only 1 senior D Gordon).
Last year XU shot the ball poorly at The Rock and it was the game that Stain got hurt. We need to force Whitehead into 25' shots and he will take them. Advantage X inside if Jalen and Jimmy bring their A game. Run them out of the gym because SHU bench is not that good. Homecoming for Myles. Last year he tried to do too much for his fans. Just play within your self. No letdown for XU. We are playing for the #1 seed.
THRILLHOUSE
02-26-2016, 09:54 AM
Last year XU shot the ball poorly at The Rock and it was the game that Stain got hurt.
Again, that was 2014. For the most part, X shot fine last year, defense just stunk.
2014 - http://www.collegebasketball.ap.org/article/oliver-scores-20-seton-hall-stuns-xavier-71-62
2015 - http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=400588437
xuwin
02-26-2016, 09:59 AM
Seton Hall's consistent high energy is what impresses me. If Xavier matches their energy we will win.
paulxu
02-26-2016, 10:25 AM
Man, it seems like ages ago that Stainbrook played for X. I'm getting really old.
Caveat
02-26-2016, 10:36 AM
That was the 2014 game. Last year's game X was just awful on defense, gave up 52 2nd half points.
Must've just blocked it out of my mind then.
X-ceptional
02-26-2016, 10:45 AM
Man, it seems like ages ago that Stainbrook played for X. I'm getting really old.
Haha. I actually feel the same way--watching Stainbrook seems like an eternity ago. I think, for me at least, it has something to do with the fact that this season has had so many games worthy of re-watching (at least once!). I must have watched darn near two seasons' worth of games/replays this year.
Caveat
02-26-2016, 10:58 AM
Man, it seems like ages ago that Stainbrook played for X. I'm getting really old.
I think it's because this current X team looks like a completely different program than the team last year -- guys like Myles, Farr and JP all feel like different players than they were last year, and then you add in Edmond Sumner and it seems like the entire roster turned over.
SC in DC
02-26-2016, 02:23 PM
Was last year the year some old guy named Stanbrooke (or something) got hurt and we shot really poorly??
GoMuskies
02-26-2016, 02:24 PM
Was last year the year some old guy named Stanbrooke (or something) got hurt and we shot really poorly??
I think that was in 2013.
sgarcia
02-26-2016, 03:04 PM
Did you know that Stainbrook was an Uber driver? True story.
GoMuskies
02-26-2016, 03:09 PM
Did you know that Stainbrook was an Uber driver? True story.
That seems like it would be difficult as a scholarship athlete. Because he was, of course, a scholarship athlete, right?
That seems like it would be difficult as a scholarship athlete. Because he was, of course, a scholarship athlete, right?
Well, ya know, he has this brother.....
X-band '01
02-26-2016, 03:19 PM
Students have gone with the "Lobster Theme". A bunch of Frat guys picked the suits up and it has stuck
Thanks - it has stuck much like the bacon costumes at Florida State this season.
X-band '01
02-26-2016, 03:37 PM
Seton Hall is saying the game is a sell-out now (even though they usually sell a few $11 tickets on gamedays).
Another caveat is that they only open the lower bowl in the Prudential Center for basketball games (similar to Duquesne's setup for their games at Consol).
EastCoastXman
02-26-2016, 03:45 PM
Confirmed that the game is a sellout of the lower bowl. Should be about 9K in attendance. First sellout at Pru Center since last year's Villanova game. Pirates are starting to feel it and their fans are just starting to wake up. This will be a good test for us.
bobbiemcgee
02-26-2016, 11:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TQCptoVXFs
Myles on going home.
Masterofreality
02-27-2016, 09:38 AM
You'd hope, but hopefully there won't be a letdown. Seton Hall will be a desperate team on Sunday, and that's always dangerous.
Maybe Seton Hall will have a letdown after their huge win against Providence. We're just strolling along down the path after another expected win vs a mediocre opponent. :lol:
skyking
02-27-2016, 11:11 AM
Open at X by 1. Anyone know a good bookie?
bobbiemcgee
02-27-2016, 11:26 AM
http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/against-the-spread/ncaa-basketball?iadid=Nav_Sport_NCAAB_ATS_STANDINGS
maybe go for the o/u
GoMuskies
02-27-2016, 12:10 PM
I promise the line will start at Xavier minus 4 or right around there. Book it
Where do I book this on Seton Hall? I want to try to middle the one point line Vegas set.
SBR shows X -1 on at least one line'. NasDad should give 4.
XUFan09
02-27-2016, 07:23 PM
If Xavier wins this, I'm confident that they absolutely assure themselves a top 2 seed. It's close to a sure thing already, but a win would eliminate even the chance of falling to a 3 by everything go against them.
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RoseyMuskie
02-27-2016, 08:14 PM
If Xavier wins this, I'm confident that they absolutely assure themselves a top 2 seed. It's close to a sure thing already, but a win would eliminate even the chance of falling to a 3 by everything go against them.
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I think you're right. Beat SH, and then lose to Creighton, still in the Top 8.
Don't like the thought of losing two straight, but most other 1/2/3 seed contenders will lose in their respective tournament, so it probably wouldn't affect X much.
What's with the rims at The Hall? 1-19 an 3-24 on 3PFGs the last two trips to Jersey. Fervently hoping this is isn't a trend
MADXSTER
02-28-2016, 09:59 AM
IMO today's game is going to be harder to win than the Villanova game at home. Don't get me wrong, the Vill game was more important but this one is going to be tougher.
XUFan09
02-28-2016, 11:03 AM
IMO today's game is going to be harder to win than the Villanova game at home. Don't get me wrong, the Vill game was more important but this one is going to be tougher.
Yup, venue most definitely matters. If rank them about the same in difficulty.
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xavierj
02-28-2016, 11:30 AM
Line opened a pick and now Xavier -2. Does that mean money is taking Xavier?
American X
02-28-2016, 12:27 PM
Live Chat (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=XavierHoops)
X Factor
02-28-2016, 12:31 PM
Let's go MUSKIES!!!
X Factor
02-28-2016, 12:32 PM
Looks like a big crowd for the home team.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 12:34 PM
Fuck this white club.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 12:35 PM
Great start guys. Creighton all over again.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 12:37 PM
Nice answer.
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 12:39 PM
I could go for some zone. Worked well the first matchup.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 12:41 PM
Yes, 1-3-1 zone was used a lot in the first matchup.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 12:42 PM
Ha, JP could break the NCAA record for steals today.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 12:42 PM
JP wreaking havoc at the top of that zone.
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 12:42 PM
Good start with the zone.
paulxu
02-28-2016, 12:48 PM
When you are playing well...you get everybody's best game...every game.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 12:49 PM
WTF! C'mon guys
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 12:49 PM
Our fast break has been abysmal today.
RoseyMuskie
02-28-2016, 12:50 PM
Kaiser needs to start making his free throws. And Larry needs to slow down.
HenryMuto
02-28-2016, 12:50 PM
This is going to be a very tough game to win. Road games are always tough but X has done a great job in road games this year. 1 last huddle here to clear and then beat Creighton at home and X locks up at least a #2 seed.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 12:50 PM
Kaiser misses 2 FT's and then shoots a layup over the rim...gotta make the easy ones.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 12:52 PM
Kaiser needs to find a cozy spot on the bench for the rest of this one.
paulxu
02-28-2016, 12:55 PM
We are not playing our best ball here.
RoseyMuskie
02-28-2016, 12:56 PM
Make. A. Layup.
paulxu
02-28-2016, 12:56 PM
The Musketeers made just 4 of their first 15 shots. Joe Lunardi says that a loss today at Seton Hall would result in Xavier dropping out of a 1-seed, ushering a return to the top line for UNC
They just can't wait, can they.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 12:57 PM
We just cannot finish on the break today.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 12:58 PM
Serious let down performance so far.
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 12:58 PM
Can we get the ball inside once please?
X Factor
02-28-2016, 12:59 PM
Seton Hall is making their layups
HenryMuto
02-28-2016, 12:59 PM
Joe Lunardi says that a loss today at Seton Hall would result in Xavier dropping out of a 1-seed, ushering a return to the top line for UNC.
RealDeal
02-28-2016, 12:59 PM
We definitely need more from jalen today.
Caveat
02-28-2016, 01:00 PM
So frustrating to watch. Easy buckets missed, lazy rebounding -- seen this before, and I know how it ends.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:00 PM
Can we get the ball inside once please?
Ask and ye shall receive
RoseyMuskie
02-28-2016, 01:01 PM
Time for Macura to come back in
paulxu
02-28-2016, 01:01 PM
So frustrating to watch. Easy buckets missed, lazy rebounding -- seen this before, and I know how it ends.
Too early to give up. These are gut check games. Need a heat check.
Lloyd Braun
02-28-2016, 01:04 PM
Whitehead travels every play. I think he's ready for the next level.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:06 PM
How was that a foul on JP?
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 01:06 PM
Get the damn ball inside.
mistabeecee41
02-28-2016, 01:06 PM
Myles has literally contributed nothing this half. What a homecoming.
kellernr
02-28-2016, 01:07 PM
Once again myles is invisible in the 1st half.
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GIMMFD
02-28-2016, 01:07 PM
Let's not meltdown yet guys, our shooting as been abysmal but we have plenty of time, need to string together some good possessions.
brownlavender
02-28-2016, 01:07 PM
big East refs are horrrrrrrrible. they have missed 3 travels and at least 4 questionable foul calls so far
XUBob
02-28-2016, 01:08 PM
Watching the game, reminds me of Creighton. The Hall playing well, we missed too many inside looks, so now X is starting to settle for threes, not a winning combination on the road. Need a massive defensive effort from here on out.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:08 PM
Of course Seton Hall is playing out of this world. We can't do crap right.
Caveat
02-28-2016, 01:08 PM
Too early to give up. These are gut check games. Need a heat check.
They showed up fired up, Xavier showed up flat. Nothing is falling. These games happen, I just wish they wouldn't always happen when Xavier reaches a new program high.
RoseyMuskie
02-28-2016, 01:08 PM
That was the play out of a timeout? Terrible.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:09 PM
Earth to Myles and Trevon!!!! Wake up!!
kellernr
02-28-2016, 01:09 PM
Making it easy for Seton hall to an d. The bigs just stands there and doesn't move.
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GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:09 PM
Of course Seton Hall is playing out of this world. We can't do crap right.
Seton Hall isn't doing anything special. We just suck so far.
HenryMuto
02-28-2016, 01:09 PM
Game is getting away down 14 jesus christ.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:10 PM
Seton Hall is a bad FT shooting team, except today.
Caveat
02-28-2016, 01:10 PM
I'm out. Too nice a day. Need to get it together for Creighton and the BE tourney.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:11 PM
So disappointing. Thought this team would be ready to play today.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:11 PM
None of our guys bothered to get back. Pathetic.
RoseyMuskie
02-28-2016, 01:11 PM
Seton Hall is getting every bounce. Every call. And X is playing like a steaming pile of crap. This game sucks.
kellernr
02-28-2016, 01:11 PM
big East refs are horrrrrrrrible. they have missed 3 travels and at least 4 questionable foul calls so far
Don't be a bearcat or flyer and blame the refs.
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X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:12 PM
Too easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
paulxu
02-28-2016, 01:12 PM
Yikes. I'm sure Mack is more upset at the sloppy play than the score.
Xavier
02-28-2016, 01:12 PM
Damn.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:12 PM
What a piss ass performance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK!!!
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 01:13 PM
Aside from Farr no one came to play today. Embarrassing.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:13 PM
Two jumpers and it's a 10 point game, though. Shitty, but early.
mistabeecee41
02-28-2016, 01:13 PM
I think we all knew a letdown was a legit possibility.
But National Championship contenders shouldn't come out and embarrass themselves after an emotional win.
paulxu
02-28-2016, 01:13 PM
Not to be overly critical, but we're playing like we thought we should win this game. They're playing like they can win the game.
Caveat
02-28-2016, 01:13 PM
Seton Hall is getting every bounce. Every call. And X is playing like a steaming pile of crap. This game sucks.
Not really. They're outplaying Xavier, flat out.
kellernr
02-28-2016, 01:14 PM
Earth to Myles and Trevon!!!! Wake up!!
Neither of those guys have put together a complete game. Blueitt scores in bunches so let's hope he gets hot for the 2nd half. Just need to get it under 10 by half
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GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:14 PM
Love that emotion from Mack. Same thing I want to do.
paulxu
02-28-2016, 01:15 PM
They've out rebounded us 22 to 12. No hustle.
nasdadjr
02-28-2016, 01:16 PM
Seton hall is on 13 straight possessions with a point
Xville
02-28-2016, 01:16 PM
Saw this coming....easy let down game against a good team. We did not show up
Blue Blooded-05
02-28-2016, 01:16 PM
Turnovers and more turnovers
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:17 PM
Bleuitt is awful around the rim.
HenryMuto
02-28-2016, 01:17 PM
Down 18 now so disappointing. Had a real shot to move to #2 in the polls. Wish X would have played Seton Hall on the road back when they were struggling earlier this year.
skyking
02-28-2016, 01:17 PM
The wheels are falling off. Playing like late January.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:17 PM
A quick run here to make it manageable would be ideal.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:18 PM
Hahahahhahahahahahah
skyking
02-28-2016, 01:19 PM
One finish on a break away would be nice.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:19 PM
The wheels are falling off. Playing like late January.
Get the F outta here. You only come around when X is struggling.
paulxu
02-28-2016, 01:20 PM
As good as we played against Nova, that's how bad we are now.
Not giving up. We need Tre to have a good second half, and to stop the sloppiness.
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 01:20 PM
Just leave the guys out there at halftime to do layup drills.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:20 PM
Trevon fails to finish around the rim again.
skyking
02-28-2016, 01:21 PM
Get the F outta here. You only come around when X is struggling.
Wow!
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:22 PM
Trevon sucks today. Can't finish and getting abused on the glass.
MADXSTER
02-28-2016, 01:22 PM
I would like to see Farr and Reynolds out there together. Xavier needs rebounds.
Blue Blooded-05
02-28-2016, 01:23 PM
The ball just ain't falling today. We've missed 6 straight shots in the paint
nasdadjr
02-28-2016, 01:23 PM
Game over. Be pissed at me for giving up on this game I don't care this team today doesn't deserve another hour of my day
HenryMuto
02-28-2016, 01:24 PM
Damn only 1 timeout left for the 2nd half.
LA Muskie
02-28-2016, 01:24 PM
We're getting abused. That may be the worst defensive/rebounding half we've played all year.
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GIMMFD
02-28-2016, 01:24 PM
Just not our day at this point. Regroup, get ready for Creighton.
RoseyMuskie
02-28-2016, 01:24 PM
I would like to see Farr and Reynolds out there together. Xavier needs rebounds.
This. Probably won't make a difference at this point, but I agree.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:24 PM
Well that was fucking embarrassing
Lloyd Braun
02-28-2016, 01:24 PM
Fitting end of the half.
BMoreX
02-28-2016, 01:25 PM
Horse shit performance
RoseyMuskie
02-28-2016, 01:25 PM
Make. A. Layup.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:25 PM
We're getting abused. That may be the worst defensive/rebounding half we've played all year.
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It was definitely the worst offensive half.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:25 PM
28% from the field. Should've just stayed in Cincy and told Seton Hall we forfeit.
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 01:25 PM
Game over. Be pissed at me for giving up on this game I don't care this team today doesn't deserve another hour of my day
Okay bye
paulxu
02-28-2016, 01:25 PM
When JP and Myles are 0 fer, and you get outrebounded by 10...bad things happen.
skyking
02-28-2016, 01:26 PM
If we come out strong in the second half Mack is definitely coach of the year.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:26 PM
27% from the field.
xavierj
02-28-2016, 01:27 PM
When you cant make shots and let up 45 points in a half, you wont win. Pretty simple. Here is hoping for anither 50 point half and much better defense.
Jesuit4Life
02-28-2016, 01:27 PM
That half: https://vine.co/v/iguuIj7Lxzb
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skyking
02-28-2016, 01:27 PM
28% from the field. Should've just stayed in Cincy and told Seton Hall we forfeit.
Only come on here to complain?
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:27 PM
I honestly can't believe guys like Myles and Trevon played that awful in the first half!!! They absolutely blew ass.
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 01:28 PM
We had 7 defensive rebounds. They had 10 offensive rebounds. Can't make a free throw or a layup and the defense has been bad. It's the perfect storm of garbage.
KabeX
02-28-2016, 01:28 PM
I think a lot of us saw this coming or at least aren't surprised. This is an L. That's not important at this point. The attitude in the 2nd half is. SH is a very good team. But we're making it just too damn easy on them.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:28 PM
Only come on here to complain?
You just joined this board. Might be thinking of someone else. You're not the most positive guy though on Musketeer Madness.
LA Muskie
02-28-2016, 01:28 PM
It was definitely the worst offensive half.
It was probably that too. But I'm far more concerned about giving up 45 and getting our asses handed to us on the boards. The offense will come.
They just need to chill out a bit. Missed layups are usually the result of pressing/stressing.
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xukeith
02-28-2016, 01:29 PM
Of course Seton Hall is playing out of this world. We can't do crap right.
X has ZERO confidence outside of Farr.
It may be X's youth.
Missed what seems 15 layups and put backs. O'Marra is a joke.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:30 PM
This team either wins by 7 or more points or loses by double digits.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:31 PM
X has ZERO confidence outside of Farr.
It may be X's youth.
Missed what seems 15 layups and put backs. O'Marra is a joke.
O'Mara is 1-2 from the field. Myles and Trevon are 2-10 combined. I don't think O'Mara is the problem.
X has ZERO confidence outside of Farr.
It may be X's youth.
Missed what seems 15 layups and put backs. O'Marra is a joke.
No.
xukeith
02-28-2016, 01:31 PM
I think a lot of us saw this coming or at least aren't surprised. This is an L. That's not important at this point. The attitude in the 2nd half is. SH is a very good team. But we're making it just too damn easy on them.
Dead right
Xavier
02-28-2016, 01:32 PM
Tough. Need to crawl back- get an 8-0 run here and there. Its possible but not likely, really disappointing and requires us to win out to be a 1 seed.
xukeith
02-28-2016, 01:32 PM
Saw this coming....easy let down game against a good team. We did not show up
Imagine if X played in Pac 10 or B12.
LA Muskie
02-28-2016, 01:32 PM
I'd like to see more points on the board but we were so bad on the defensive end that it wouldn't matter if we were playing well offensively.
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Jesuit4Life
02-28-2016, 01:34 PM
RT @DougTifft
XU on layups in 1st half:
O'Mara 1-2
Austin 1-2
Macura 0-2
Sumner 0-2
Bluiett 0-1
Farr 1-3
Reynolds 0-1
Abell 0-1
Gates 0-1
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GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:35 PM
Theres still time to charge back and make a game of this. Seton Hall is far from a great team. They'll let us make a run if we play well.
markchal
02-28-2016, 01:35 PM
I thought we might lose, didn't think we would get clowned. SH is good, but like 8-9 seed good. We shouldn't be getting crushed. This is the worst basketball we've played all year, and it's really discouraging that it comes after our most complete game. Even with a letdown, I wouldn't expect to be down 20 at half.
paulxu
02-28-2016, 01:35 PM
I have no idea really what's going on. We are not playing the same as we have the last few weeks.
Creighton is really our only big mistake in conference. We were down 10 at half and never recovered.
Doesn't look good today. We'll see how they handle real adversity. There's more games to go, so this isn't a killer.
In the NCAA you can't have this type of game.
Would like to see a real effort to look like we did against Nova.
Was probably an unhappy locker room at half.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:36 PM
I'd like to see more points on the board but we were so bad on the defensive end that it wouldn't matter if we were playing well offensively.
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It would matter a whole lot. This deficit would be manageable.
RoseyMuskie
02-28-2016, 01:36 PM
I knew this would be a tough performance.
But the effort has been poor. I know that sounds like a lazy, losing point. But take the missed dunk, Delgado sequence. Farr and Myles didn't even attempt to run back.
SkyWalker
02-28-2016, 01:37 PM
Gonna need one of those really big runs.
XUOHTX
02-28-2016, 01:37 PM
I'm never coming to another X game in Jersey again
BandAid
02-28-2016, 01:37 PM
Seton Hall has hands like ninjas today. It unbelievable how many times they've tipped a pass or straight up picked a pcket without accumulating any hand fouls
xukeith
02-28-2016, 01:38 PM
Theres still time to charge back and make a game of this. Seton Hall is far from a great team. They'll let us make a run if we play well.
SH is very talented team with a lot of talent and momentum. This is their season. If X comes within 10 I will be ecstatic.
Muskeagle
02-28-2016, 01:38 PM
Flipped over the women's game to cheer myself up at half...oops! Down 14 to Georgetown. :( Not looking like our day.
I'm never coming to another X game in Jersey again
It looks like X is ahead of you on that one. They didn't show either.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:39 PM
But take the missed dunk, Delgado sequence. Farr and Myles didn't even attempt to run back.
That was a bad, bad sequence. Worst of the half.
xukeith
02-28-2016, 01:39 PM
I knew this would be a tough performance.
But the effort has been poor. I know that sounds like a lazy, losing point. But take the missed dunk, Delgado sequence. Farr and Myles didn't even attempt to run back.
X is caught reading how awesome they are. Reading headlines. Show up and teams will blow over. Not SH!
LA Muskie
02-28-2016, 01:40 PM
It would matter a whole lot. This deficit would be manageable.
Well sure. Obviously. But if we were playing better defense and rebounding better not only would they have fewer than 45 but I would GUARANTEE we'd have more than 26. Defense creates easy offense.
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GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:40 PM
SH is very talented team with a lot of talent and momentum. This is their season. If X comes within 10 I will be ecstatic.
They're okay. But far from great. We're top 5. If we play like a top 5 team, we'llmake a serious run.
That was a bad, bad sequence. Worst of the half.
That's really saying something, because there's a LOT of stiff competition.
Blue Blooded-05
02-28-2016, 01:40 PM
I'm never coming to another X game in Jersey again
I know, right. We never play well in Jersey. This game reminds me of the Duke game at the Meadowlands.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:41 PM
Well sure. Obviously. But if we were playing better defense and rebounding better not only would they have fewer than 45 but I would GUARANTEE we'd have more than 26. Defense creates easy offense.
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Well, even when we made plays on defense to create offense we missed layups, so I'm not so sure.
Muskeagle
02-28-2016, 01:41 PM
Wake Forest anyone? C'mon, boys. Let's make a game of it.
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 01:42 PM
I know, right. We never play well in Jersey. This game reminds me of the Duke game at the Meadowlands.
Don't you know? That game never happened.
skyking
02-28-2016, 01:42 PM
Time to get out the rosary.
Blue Blooded-05
02-28-2016, 01:46 PM
Don't you know? That game never happened.
My therapy bill suggests otherwise
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:47 PM
Good god, they're giving us every opportunity.
kellernr
02-28-2016, 01:48 PM
Why is myles allowed on the court?
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X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:50 PM
Myles can't guard Rodriguez at all.
skyking
02-28-2016, 01:51 PM
OK! Time for one of those 20 - 0 runs. :blackeye:
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:53 PM
We're just a couple of outside shots away from making them pretty nervous.
BMoreX
02-28-2016, 01:54 PM
Make shots
BMoreX
02-28-2016, 01:55 PM
Transition O such an issue
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:55 PM
Another sloppy ass break.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 01:58 PM
Trevon....smh
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 01:59 PM
Thank God Seton Hall is so fucking stupid.
RoseyMuskie
02-28-2016, 02:00 PM
Yet X has been equally as stupid.
Xavier
02-28-2016, 02:00 PM
Xavier is too. The hell was that pass from Myles?
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 02:00 PM
This isn't fun.
BMoreX
02-28-2016, 02:00 PM
Piss poor.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 02:01 PM
And we're being plenty stupid ourselves. Not taking advantage of the many, many chances Seton Hall has given us to get back into this one.
Xpectations
02-28-2016, 02:01 PM
Our transition defense today = not good
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 02:02 PM
Our transition defense today = not good
Better than our transition offense.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 02:02 PM
Myles!!!!! What are you doing???????????????????????
mistabeecee41
02-28-2016, 02:02 PM
Just idiotic basketball. I don't know why Myles thought driving directly a defender and bounce passing the ball to him was a good idea.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 02:03 PM
I have NEVER seen so many stupid plays by a Xavier team!!!!!
Blue Blooded-05
02-28-2016, 02:03 PM
Desi & Delgado are a combined 16 of 23 from the floor
Desi is 1 rebound short of a double double at the under-12.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 02:04 PM
Desi & Delgado are a combined 16 of 23 from the floor
Desi is 1 rebound short of a double double at the under-12.
They are abusing us inside. Not even close.
paulxu
02-28-2016, 02:05 PM
How many sloppy passes have we made today? I can't even begin to count them.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 02:05 PM
Now it's over.
xukeith
02-28-2016, 02:06 PM
horrible shot selection.
Coaches have some fault.
Players were not talented enough to compete on road @ a 9 seed
Xpectations
02-28-2016, 02:06 PM
Whitehead getting blocks because he doesn't think he has to defend Austin.
XMuskieFTW
02-28-2016, 02:09 PM
Would love to see us try a press.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 02:09 PM
Macura is our entire defense today.
Lloyd Braun
02-28-2016, 02:11 PM
Myles needs to make shots to be effective against teams with bigger guards.
Edit: by effective I mean playable
Xavier
02-28-2016, 02:11 PM
Geez Omara. Miss a layup they hit a three and its over. Probably was before then but my God.
RoseyMuskie
02-28-2016, 02:12 PM
I wish this game would just end.
X Factor
02-28-2016, 02:12 PM
Our big men have sucked so bad today and theirs have played really well.
paulxu
02-28-2016, 02:13 PM
We've taken 13 more shots, made more 3's...and are down 17. Fing amazing.
paulxu
02-28-2016, 02:14 PM
Curry range?
skyking
02-28-2016, 02:14 PM
It seems that SH is not only playing well but getting lucky bounces on rebounds and rim shots. Clearly not our day.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 02:14 PM
Whitehead is such a moron.
HenryMuto
02-28-2016, 02:14 PM
Well not going to win when they are throwing in 30 footers
HenryMuto
02-28-2016, 02:16 PM
Chalk this up to 1 of those games only thing that sucks about it is the chance to have moved to #2 in the polls and a chance to have got a #1 seed.
I think now to get a #1 seed X needs to win out including the BE tournament otherwise looking at a #2 seed. Need to at least beat Creighton and win a 1st round game in BE to get that #2 seed.
skyking
02-28-2016, 02:18 PM
Chalk this up to 1 of those games only thing that sucks about it is the chance to have moved to #2 in the polls and a chance to have got a #1 seed.
I think now to get a #1 seed X needs to win out including the BE tournament otherwise looking at a #2 seed. Need to at least beat Creighton and win a 1st round game in BE to get that #2 seed.
#5 ranking jink?
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 02:18 PM
Nice rebounding
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 02:18 PM
Trevon, WTF?
mistabeecee41
02-28-2016, 02:18 PM
Good effort guys.
paulxu
02-28-2016, 02:19 PM
Maybe this was our effort to get Seton Hall off the bubble. If so...nice job.
GoMuskies
02-28-2016, 02:20 PM
Our only defensive weapon is gone. That's not helpful.
skyking
02-28-2016, 02:20 PM
Oooh! #5. That hurts.
Lloyd Braun
02-28-2016, 02:20 PM
That was not a block on JP. But I did love him dis the ref trying to help him up.
GIMMFD
02-28-2016, 02:21 PM
Maybe this was our effort to get Seton Hall off the bubble. If so...nice job.
We're so nice letting other Big East members get into the tournament :)
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