XAVIER vs PROVIDENCE

[MADXSTER]

1972 vs 1973

#7 Xavier University Musketeers (22-3) RPI 7, SOS 42, KENPOM 16
W Miami(OH) 81-72
W Missouri 78-66
W Michigan 86-70
W NKU 78-66
W Alabama 64-45
W USC 87-77
W _ayton 90-61
W Western Kentucky 95-64
W Wright State 90-55
W Cincinnati 65-55
W Auburn 85-61
W Wake Forest 78-70
L Villanova 95-64
W Butler 88-69
W St Johns 74-66
W DePaul 84-64
W Marquette 74-66
L Georgetown 81-72
W Seton Hall 84-76
W Providence 75-68
W DePaul 86-65
W St John's 90-83
W Marquette 90-82
L Creighton 70-56
W Butler 74-57

vs #23 Providence Friars (19-7) RPI 40, SOS 55, KENPOM 57

W Harvard 76-64
W Illinois 60-59
W Brown 94-73
W NJIT 83-76
W Evansville 74-64
W Arizona 69-65
L Michigan St 77-64
W Hartford 89-66
W Rhode Island 74-72
W Boston College 66-51
W Bryant 74-67
W Rider 73-65
W UMass 90-66
W Butler 81-73
W St John's 83-65
L Marquette 65-64
W Creighton 50-48
L Seton Hall 81-72
W Butler 71-68
W Villanova 82-76
L Xavier 75-68
W Georgetown 73-69
L DePaul 77-70
L Villanova 72-60
L Marquette 96-91
W Georgetown 75-72


Location: Cintas
Wednesday Feb 17th 2016 at 7:00pm EST
Television: FS1
Radio: 700WLW-AM with play-by-play from Xavier Hall of Famer and former Musketeer standout Joe Sunderman ('79). Analysis will be provided by Xavier Hall of Famer and XU all-time leading scorer Byron Larkin ('88).

[D-West & PO-Z]

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/111443/weekday-predictions-north-carolina-scores-round-one-victory-over-duke

No. 20 Providence at No. 5 Xavier (Cincinnati), 7 p.m., FS1, Wednesday: The Friars narrowly avoided a four game losing streak by holding off Georgetown 75-72 on Saturday. Meanwhile the peaking Musketeers are aiming for the season sweep of Providence. Broom sold separately.

Prediction: Xavier 73, Providence 62.


On a side note, here is his prediciton for Nova/Temple:

No. 1 Villanova at Temple (Philadelphia), 7 p.m., ESPN2, Wednesday: The Wildcats are the sixth team to assume the No. 1 mantle this season in the polls and will make way for a seventh new No. 1 next week.

Prediction: Temple 67, Villanova 66.

[BMoreX]

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/111443/weekday-predictions-north-carolina-scores-round-one-victory-over-duke

No. 20 Providence at No. 5 Xavier (Cincinnati), 7 p.m., FS1, Wednesday: The Friars narrowly avoided a four game losing streak by holding off Georgetown 75-72 on Saturday. Meanwhile the peaking Musketeers are aiming for the season sweep of Providence. Broom sold separately.

Prediction: Xavier 73, Providence 62.


On a side note, here is his prediciton for Nova/Temple:

No. 1 Villanova at Temple (Philadelphia), 7 p.m., ESPN2, Wednesday: The Wildcats are the sixth team to assume the No. 1 mantle this season in the polls and will make way for a seventh new No. 1 next week.

Prediction: Temple 67, Villanova 66.

I want to play #1 Villanova at Cintas Center in 9 days.

[GoMuskies]

I want to play #1 Villanova at Cintas Center in 9 days.

Me, too! I think 'Nova will beat Temple, but I expect it to be a very difficult environment and game.

[mid major]

I just can't see Temple beating Nova.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I want to play #1 Villanova at Cintas Center in 9 days.

Samesies.

[xu82]

Samesies.

There you go again......

But of course I agree.

[XMuskieFTW]

I don't. I'd rather see them lose to butler so we can play them for a tie for first. Definitely want to see them beat temple though.

[Masterofreality]

On a side note, here is his prediciton for Nova/Temple:

No. 1 Villanova at Temple (Philadelphia), 7 p.m., ESPN2, Wednesday: The Wildcats are the sixth team to assume the No. 1 mantle this season in the polls and will make way for a seventh new No. 1 next week.

Prediction: Temple 67, Villanova 66.

That is freaking hilarious. If that isn't ESPN bias toward one of it's league products and bias against a Big East member, I don't know what is. If Temple was #1 no way they'd make that call.

[Masterofreality]

I don't. I'd rather see them lose to butler so we can play them for a tie for first. Definitely want to see them beat temple though.

This.

[X-band '01]

That is freaking hilarious. If that isn't ESPN bias toward one of it's league products and bias against a Big East member, I don't know what is. If Temple was #1 no way they'd make that call.

You'll also love how they have a picture of Villanova on their website asking if this is the year that a 16 finally beats a 1. Never mind that we'll see a surprise or two in the auto-bid leagues as usual who get an all-expense paid trip to Dayton.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I don't. I'd rather see them lose to butler so we can play them for a tie for first. Definitely want to see them beat temple though.

Well yes, same, but I want them to beat Temple too because that has no effect on us. Yeah I'd like a loss to Butler.

[D-West & PO-Z]

You'll also love how they have a picture of Villanova on their website asking if this is the year that a 16 finally beats a 1. Never mind that we'll see a surprise or two in the auto-bid leagues as usual who get an all-expense paid trip to Dayton.

Yes, saw that. Hilarious.

[Emp]

Thread jumps the shark in three posts. Nothing says hubris like looking past a game with a dangerous team desperate to turn around its fortunes.

Jalen is in a funk. Bentel is a dangerous weapon. The only team to beat Nova in the league is getting overlooked?

One difficult game at a time.

[kyxu]

Thread jumps the shark in three posts. Nothing says hubris like looking past a game with a dangerous team desperate to turn around its fortunes.

Jalen is in a funk. Bentel is a dangerous weapon. The only team to beat Nova in the league is getting overlooked?

One difficult game at a time.

Fortunately, we don't play in these games, so we can overlook anyone we damn well please.

[xuwin]

Thread jumps the shark in three posts. Nothing says hubris like looking past a game with a dangerous team desperate to turn around its fortunes.

Jalen is in a funk. Bentel is a dangerous weapon. The only team to beat Nova in the league is getting overlooked?

One difficult game at a time.

Overlooked by who?

[X-band '01]

Big difference between a thread being derailed and posters saying Providence isn't a threat. Nobody is suggesting the latter.

[GIMMFD]

Dunn hasn't been going off like crazy which kind of scares me because I think he's going to have a break out game soon. Hopefully it's not against us, we definitely have to win this game to keep pace with Nova. And yes, Butler winning would be very nice.

[markchal]

I don't think it will be easy but if we can't beat Providence at home then we don't belong in the top 10. We already had our home hiccup, so I can't imagine this team won't be focused from the tip.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Fortunately, we don't play in these games, so we can overlook anyone we damn well please.

Not sure how this thread shows anyone is overlooking Providence but even if they were this post says it all.

[Muskie]

Dunn hasn't been going off like crazy which kind of scares me because I think he's going to have a break out game soon. Hopefully it's not against us, we definitely have to win this game to keep pace with Nova. And yes, Butler winning would be very nice.

Kris Dunn is my favorite Non-X conference player. He's a pleasure to watch.


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[GoMuskies]

I'm not overlooking Providence, but I don't think they're particularly good. If Xavier plays well, and Dunn doesn't go insanely off, we should have a comfortable win.

[bleedXblue]

I'm not overlooking Providence, but I don't think they're particularly good. If Xavier plays well, and Dunn doesn't go insanely off, we should have a comfortable win.

The have the two best players in the conference. Bentil is a flat out stud. I think he's POY. My concern is that we seem to allow guys to go off at times and have huge games.

[GoMuskies]

Hasn't stopped the from losing with regularity.

[bleedXblue]

Hasn't stopped the from losing with regularity.

19-7 and ranked in the top 25 ? If that isn't "good", then I don't know what is.

[GoMuskies]

Meh, lost 3 of 4 and 4 of 6. Computer rankings way below their poll rankings. Not particularly impressed.

[Muncie]

If Georgetown could beat us at Cintas then Providence could . ...we need to bring our A game.

[Musketeer15]

@XU_Xtreme_Fans
Just found out there will be a special @XavierMBB alum at Wednesday's game vs. Providence... ��⚔�� #StayTuned

Any ideas? I'm thinking D West

[D-West & PO-Z]

@XU_Xtreme_Fans
Just found out there will be a special @XavierMBB alum at Wednesday's game vs. Providence... ��⚔�� #StayTuned

Any ideas? I'm thinking D West

He plays in LA the next night, not sure if that would exclude him. Posey has a game in Cleveburg next night but thats close, maybe him?

Maybe Tu? His team doesnt play again until Friday.

[X Factor]

I think this a game where a heavy dose of 1-3-1 will be effective. Providence is not a good 3pt shooting team and it limits one on one defense against Dunn and Bentil.

[UCGRAD4X]

The have the two best players in the conference. Bentil is a flat out stud. I think he's POY. My concern is that we seem to allow guys to go off at times and have huge games.

But it seems, so often, as if one of the also-rans goes off that completely throws us out of whack. Bentil and Dunn will 'get theirs'! Who on the supporting cast would be the wild card?

[bleedXblue]

I think this a game where a heavy dose of 1-3-1 will be effective. Providence is not a good 3pt shooting team and it limits one on one defense against Dunn and Bentil.

yes, yes and yes

[bleedXblue]

Meh, lost 3 of 4 and 4 of 6. Computer rankings way below their poll rankings. Not particularly impressed.

LOL....they beat the best team in college basketball......

[GoMuskies]

LOL....they beat the best team in college basketball......

Great. They also lost to DePaul.

[xu82]

Great. They also lost to DePaul.

.....which is very confusing. I hope we get the team that lost to DePaul, but the giant slayer is hiding in there somewhere. (I tend to be the nervous type.)

[GIMMFD]

.....which is very confusing. I hope we get the team that lost to DePaul, but the giant slayer is hiding in there somewhere. (I tend to be the nervous type.)

Diddo. They aren't a bad team at all, sure Dunn and Bentil will get theres, but the wild card of someone stepping up and making some plays is very much something serious to consider. I wouldn't just brush this away as a walk in the park. Hopefully X can come out strong, unlike our last few starts to games. I'd like to see us try to punish them from the start.

[Muskie1000]

Great. They also lost to DePaul.

True, but except for Butler, we seem to get the best each Big East Team we play. (Well unless that was Butlers best, but I digress.) There is always that one player that you don't expect that goes off on Xavier and it drives me batty.

[EastCoastXman]

X is going to turn this into a track meet. Last time they played both Bentil and Dunn were gassed by the 12 minute mark of the first half. We keep sending in more troops off the bench to keep the tempo up. Getting them off the floor for 3-4 minutes for rest is a big key to beating Providence.

Sumner needs to show up tonight. Last PC game I felt he played in awe of POY candidate KD. Dunn is challenge for a veteran player. Ed will rise to the occasion tonight and forget about his PC stat line of 0/9 shooting (he did have 8 boards and 3 assists).

With our bench, we need to have someone who Dunn isn't guarding bring the ball up. This eliminates his ability to disrupt our offense.

[X-band '01]

Joe Davis and Steve Lavin will be calling the game on FS1. Normally they'd probably have Nick Bahe doing the call (last night as well), but Bahe is undergoing surgery today for a tumor in his thymus gland. Here's the link below:

KETV Channel 7 (ABC Omaha) (http://www.ketv.com/news/radio-host-nick-bahe-to-undergo-surgery-after-learning-of-health-risks/38022368)

Needless to say, best wishes and prayers go out to Bahe and his family/Creighton community.

[mid major]

True, but except for Butler, we seem to get the best each Big East Team we play. (Well unless that was Butlers best, but I digress.) There is always that one player that you don't expect that goes off on Xavier and it drives me batty.

Do they have a Jimmie Binnie lurking?

[American X]

When Xavier was not throwing the ball directly to the guys in different colored jerseys, PCU looked pretty helpless against the Xavier half-court offense. Facing Dunn was a real life lesson for Edmond - don't throw the ball to the guy in a different jersey. The More You Know.

Xavier should be able to wear down and overcome PCU, despite nice outings from Bentil and Dunn.

[GIMMFD]

When Xavier was not throwing the ball directly to the guys in different colored jerseys, PCU looked pretty helpless against the Xavier half-court offense. Facing Dunn was a real life lesson for Edmond - don't throw the ball to the guy in a different jersey. The More You Know.

Xavier should be able to wear down and overcome PCU, despite nice outings from Bentil and Dunn.

Let's just hope those two don't combine for 50 or anything crazy, knowing how teams play against us, it's actually plausible.

[xufan2434]

X is going to turn this into a track meet. Last time they played both Bentil and Dunn were gassed by the 12 minute mark of the first half. We keep sending in more troops off the bench to keep the tempo up. Getting them off the floor for 3-4 minutes for rest is a big key to beating Providence.

Sumner needs to show up tonight. Last PC game I felt he played in awe of POY candidate KD. Dunn is challenge for a veteran player. Ed will rise to the occasion tonight and forget about his PC stat line of 0/9 shooting (he did have 8 boards and 3 assists).

With our bench, we need to have someone who Dunn isn't guarding bring the ball up. This eliminates his ability to disrupt our offense.

Yeaaaaaaah but don't forget they were on 2 days rest after playing Nova!!!!!

[Masterofreality]

Jamie Luckey and Gary Prager are 2 of the refs tonight. 2 pretty good ones.

[GoMuskies]

So far this is fucking amazing.

[bobbiemcgee]

Did anybody else think jalen had a foul about 10 seconds in? haha. Was happy with the TO.

[GoMuskies]

Who's the pig for Providence? How do you play college basketball and get that fat?

[GoMuskies]

Holy fuck Macura!

[RoseyMuskie]

Couldn't have asked for a better ten minutes.

[GoMuskies]

Love that Providence wasn't able to take advantage of us having a cold stretch. Now hopefully we snap out of it.

[RoseyMuskie]

Gotta assume JP was in his head.

[brucelee54]

We have paid these refs plenty lol...
we are getting away with murder lol
Shove it Cooley.

[GIMMFD]

We have paid these refs plenty lol...
we are getting away with murder lol
Shove it Cooley.

How much did you donate? I threw in $20 and a twinkie. They really likes twinkies.

[bjf123]

Semaj Christon in the house tonight.


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[brucelee54]

I gave them some dog biscuits soaked in dog shit

[brucelee54]

Lol

[GIMMFD]

I gave them some dog biscuits soaked in dog shit

Come on troll, you're better than that, at least be clever.

[GoMuskies]

Why's there a guy in a Dayton sweatshirt in the front row?

[GoMuskies]

Jamie Luckey and Gary Prager are 2 of the refs tonight. 2 pretty good ones.

Jamie Luckey sucks donkey balls.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

I really did not predict this high-scoring game. I expect the defence to be tough on both sides.

[brucelee54]

Thats what I think about you troll

[brucelee54]

Glad we got that Indiana boy on our team.

[MauriceX]

I gave them some dog biscuits soaked in dog shit

Can someone remind me how to ignore? Thanks and reps in advance.

[XMuskieFTW]

Bluiett with a quiet 17 in the first half. Great half. Love that we finally came out really strong.

[GoMuskies]

Can someone remind me how to ignore? Thanks and reps in advance.

AmX is on it. Don't worry.

[brucelee54]

Can someone remind me how to ignore? Thanks and reps in advance.

Just get your head out of your ignore.

[GIMMFD]

The man. The myth. The legend. BruceLee54. #RIP

[XMuskieFTW]

He gone bye #ZipEmUp

[Blue Blobs Bro]

Why do the good die young, he was only 9 posts old.

[MauriceX]

I am pleased with that half. We are shooting very well and we have forced more turnovers than we have given up. That is a pretty good recipe for success.

I am a little confused by the overwhistling by the refs. No way that should have been an intentional against Providence or a technical against Davis (Farr I could have seen, but still a stretch). Both seemed extremely minor to me. Is there other stuff going on that I've missed? I haven't really noticed any chipiness or anything that would make the refs feel like the game is out of control.

[MauriceX]

Why do the good die young, he was only 9 posts old.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d8/JohnnyWeHardlyKnewYeCover.jpg/220px-JohnnyWeHardlyKnewYeCover.jpg

[D-West & PO-Z]

Why did Sumner limp off court? Ankle? Doesnt look like they are stretching a cramp.

[xu82]

If it's not a dunk Jalen shouldn't try it. UGH

[xu82]

Why did Sumner limp off court? Ankle? Doesnt look like they are stretching a cramp.

Sumner picked up his 3rd

[mistabeecee41]

All of those baskets came off of terrible shots on our end.

[XMuskieFTW]

Not a good start to the half.

[Muskie1000]

Sumner picked up his 3rd

But he did just leave the court.

[Xavier]

Sumner went to locker room. Guessing rolled ankle a little? I saw him limp to bench too

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sumner picked up his 3rd

He definitely limped off though and trainers were looking at him at very end of bench.

[Xville]

I wish we were better defensively...with the way we are playing on offense we should be up by twenty.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sumner went to locker room. Guessing rolled ankle a little? I saw him limp to bench too

I tried to see if he came down weird after his last basket. Couldnt tell. If ankle area lets hop rolled ankle and not anything achilles wise, he looked in pain limping off.

[GIMMFD]

I tried to see if he came down weird after his last basket. Couldnt tell. If ankle area lets hop rolled ankle and not anything achilles wise, he looked in pain limping off.

Well looks like he's out the rest of the game. That's not good news.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Well looks like he's out the rest of the game. That's not good news.

Who said that? They said he went to locker room, didnt hear that though.

[GIMMFD]

Who said that? They said he went to locker room, didnt hear that though.

Am I going crazy? I could have sworn I heard that. I might be mistaken though, I'm watching on stream and not TV and it's a little spotty.

[Muskie1000]

Just came back.

[Xavier]

Went to see, after dunk came back down court then grabbed at knee...well looked like he came back to court obviously

[GIMMFD]

Just came back.

I was very very wrong. My fault guys! I'll take that one lol.

[Jesuit4Life]

Ed walked back out, still in uniform.

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[Xavier]

Seemed like he grabbed knee like he hit knees with someone but what the hell do I know.

[xu82]

I was very very wrong. My fault guys! I'll take that one lol.

It's alright, my heart started right back up!

[Xville]

But he did just leave the court.

Geez these refs love blowing the whistle...ugh

[JohnW22]

Myles triple double watch 8 pts 8 rebounds 10 ast under 12 timeout

[Xavier]

Penn state about to beat #4 Iowa

[Xville]

Iowa about to lose to Penn state...yikes. Maybe they will actually drop a sports or two this week.

[xu82]

Good thing we're deep between Ed and the fouls.

[coasterville95]

Tell me you wouldnt rather be playing Rhody tonight. :) :) :).

Loving this big east thing.

[KabeX]

Tell me you wouldnt rather be playing Rhody tonight. :) :) :).

Loving this big east thing.

Or St. Joe's .. DOH!!

[GIMMFD]

Tell me you wouldnt rather be playing Rhody tonight. :) :) :).

Loving this big east thing.

I'd pick Duquesne, it's fun pronouncing their name wrong.

[Xavier]

Wonder if they will mention anything on ED. Could be a problem, hopefully since he was back to bench quick it's a sign not a huge deal.

[Xville]

I'm just loving Steve Lavin gobbling all over us....it's enjoyable.

[xu82]

When's the last time we had a London sighting? Nice RB.

[smileyy]

Myles 2 points away from a triple double.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wonder if they will mention anything on ED. Could be a problem, hopefully since he was back to bench quick it's a sign not a huge deal.

My guess is that isnt a sign of much but def better to see him back on bench than not see him at all.

I think having a heating pad is a good sign though. That could be cramps, but no telling really.

[xu82]

Wonder if they will mention anything on ED. Could be a problem, hopefully since he was back to bench quick it's a sign not a huge deal.
Seemed limp free when he walked back out. Not that that means anything, but I'm grasping....

[smileyy]

Man, how nice is it to be able to go 10 deep and have fouls to give against Providence's guys who do a good job drawing fouls? (Neverminding LAJ fouling a 3-point shooter >.<)

[Xavier]

Rick Broering speculating bc Ed has heating pads on knee could be dealing with his tendinitis issue.

[Xville]

Rick Broering speculating bc Ed has heating pads on knee could be dealing with his tendinitis issue.

That can't be good right? Ugh.

[Xavier]

That can't be good right? Ugh.

Pure speculation, all he said was "could be dealing with his tendinitis issue?" Wouldn't put any stock into that.

[GIMMFD]

Man I haven't seen officiating this bad in a long time.

[coasterville95]

The Georgetown game?

[RoseyMuskie]

Only 19 PTS in the 2H. Poor 2H.

[coasterville95]

The refs are trying to even this game. They think that's their job. And that we love to see the ref show.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah I mean the heating pads seem to indicate it isnt a ligament sprain or any tears etc, bc wouldnt be using a heating pad in that situation.

Tendinitis means inflammation and heat isnt good for inflammation but it could be tendinosis which it may be since it is a chronic issue not an acute one for Ed and then there wouldnt be inflammation and the heat could help. Could also maybe mean cramps.

But obviously no way to know until we hear an update.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Only 19 PTS in the 2H. Poor 2H.

Really helping my pick the score guess though.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

All of a sudden, we lost the scoring touches. Hope we can hang on for the W.

[XMuskieFTW]

Only 19 points in 16 minutes this half. Not good at all. Lucky the defense has been good.

[Xville]

X tends to fall a little bit in love with the three ball at times. It's fine when in the flow of three offense but one pass and Jack it up happens a little too often.

[GIMMFD]

The tale of two halves. Very frustrating stuff here in the second half. Just not fun basketball to watch.

[Xville]

Only 19 points in 16 minutes this half. Not good at all. Lucky the defense has been good.

Yeah kind of complete opposite from first half in a way.

[X Factor]

Farr and Reynolds are a combined 5-18 from the field!!! They can't finish worth a shit.

[smileyy]

Tendinitis means inflammation and heat isnt good for inflammation but it could be tendinosis which it may be since it is a chronic issue not an acute one for Ed and then there wouldnt be inflammation and the heat could help..

Most "tedinitises" are more and more being considered "tendinosis" or "tendinopathy" -- that there's more than just inflammation, that there's an acute tissue disorder/degradation that underlies the inflammation.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Huge Jalen!!!

[RoseyMuskie]

Started 4-5 from three. Expected that to even out. But 4-16 since.

FT shooting has been questionable as well.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Most "tedinitises" are more and more being considered "tendinosis" or "tendinopathy" -- that there's more than just inflammation, that there's an acute tissue disorder/degradation that underlies the inflammation.

Yeah most things called tendinitis are actually tendinosis, and there is no inflammation with tendidosis.

It used to drive a teacher of mine crazy how much docs and other health care professionals would diagnosis someone with tendinitis when it clearly was tendinosis.

[smileyy]

Yeah most things called tendinitis are actually tendinosis, and there is no inflammation with tendidosis.

It used to drive a teacher of mine crazy how much docs and other health care professionals would diagnosis someone with tendinitis when it clearly was tendinosis.

My experience is that many GP's are out of their element with athletic injuries like that and you're fine once they kick you over to a physical therapist who knows what they're doing.

[smileyy]

Myles could come to regret that missed FT.

[HenryMuto]

Of course the miracle banked in 3 keeps the game alive.

[X Factor]

Can this game just end please!! This second half has sucked ass.

[HenryMuto]

In the final minute of a game if you foul before the ball is inbounded it should be 1 FT and the ball.

[HenryMuto]

3x2

[smileyy]

In the final minute of a game if you foul before the ball is inbounded it should be 1 FT and the ball.

I'm in favor of this being the rule for all off-the-ball fouls in the 2nd half bonus.

[smileyy]

3x2

First since Tu's pair of them in 2011?

[Xville]

Myles had a decent game I guess :tonguewag:

[RoseyMuskie]

I'll take the Vegas and KenPom covers.

[XU '11]

First since Tu's pair of them in 2011?

Correct (according to today's FS1 broadcasters).

[smileyy]

Big big win.

[Xville]

Is it just me or did tre have the quietest 23 points ever?

[smileyy]

There's something amusing about Xavier point guards being the ones to record triple doubles.

[HenryMuto]

First since Tu's pair of them in 2011?

I believe that is correct.

[GIMMFD]

Sweep of Providence? Not bad at all!

[smileyy]

Is it just me or did tre have the quietest 23 points ever?

Well, after 17 in the first half, it got pretty quiet. I think the rest were from the line, and in a lot of 1-2's.

[Masterofreality]

Well, after 17 in the first half, it got pretty quiet. I think the rest were from the line, and in a lot of 1-2's.

Lot's of missed frees

[XMuskieFTW]

Can't think of many players that have 1 career triple double and 0 career double doubles. Love it.

[Xville]

Good win..weird game though and I hope that Ed is ok. 4 games left in the regular season...crazy to think about.

[xu82]

Is it just me or did tre have the quietest 23 points ever?

Trevon is the sneakiness accumulator of points I can remember. It's uncanny.

[bobbiemcgee]

We need Ed. Game started to slide w/o him.

[XUFan09]

We need Ed. Game started to slide w/o him.
They started to do fairly well without him, until the refs decided to not call any fouls on Providence unless they really, really had to. That and banked-in threes.

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[GoMuskies]

Providence is a bubble team.

[xu82]

I could use some answers about Ed. Thank you.

[Wheelhouse]

I could use some answers about Ed. Thank you.

Saw on Twitter that in the post game presser Mack said he could have played but he wanted to be cautious.

[MauriceX]

I could use some answers about Ed. Thank you.

Mack addressing that live right now. Said the doctors cleared him to re-enter and Mack decided to hold him out.

[XMuskieFTW]

Phew. That's a relief. Glad Ed is fine. I'm now able to completely enjoy this win.

[bobbiemcgee]

Mack addressing that live right now. Said the doctors cleared him to re-enter and Mack decided to hold him out.

Said he didn't want to put him back in after he cooled down for 15 mins.

[letskeepitreal]

Great win but that 2nd half was kinda tough to watch. I must say Davis has his own way in dealing with pressure.mhe is clutch!

[D-West & PO-Z]

My experience is that many GP's are out of their element with athletic injuries like that and you're fine once they kick you over to a physical therapist who knows what they're doing.

As a PT I would agree!

[xu82]

Saw on Twitter that in the post game presser Mack said he could have played but he wanted to be cautious.

Thank you. Even if you're lying. (It will help me sleep)

I missed the limp all together. Wonder what body part.....

[D-West & PO-Z]

Is it just me or did tre have the quietest 23 points ever?

When they said he had 17 in first half I was shocked. I would have guessed 9-11.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Mack addressing that live right now. Said the doctors cleared him to re-enter and Mack decided to hold him out.


Said he didn't want to put him back in after he cooled down for 15 mins.

Did he say what the problem was?

[Xavier]

I didn't get to listen to the post game but my friend said he didn't mention what the issue was.

[bleedXblue]

Most of the Providence team just looks defeated. They don't look like a "team" really pulling for one another. If Bentil leaves, they will be dreadful next year.

[smileyy]

Bentil can go make some money.. Hope Providence can reload.

[letskeepitreal]

I kinda like Cooley as a coach so I hope they reload as the competition is tough in the Big East

[American X]

So why did the mild-mannered elderly statesman Myles Davis receive a technical foul?

[zanesxu]

So why did the mild-mannered elderly statesman Myles Davis receive a technical foul?

That entire exchange was odd. It looked like the t was going on Farr for punching the air in disgust; Mack even scolded Farr as soon as Farr got to the bench. Refs were below average last night.


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[sgarcia]

So why did the mild-mannered elderly statesman Myles Davis receive a technical foul?

From watching on TV, it looked like he yelled an F bomb and clapped his hands but the ref that was 3 feet away from him wasn't the one that called the T. I believe that was the great Jamie Luckie that called it from 25 feet away.

[nasdadjr]

Providence is a bubble team.

No chance with so many bubble teams like St Bonnie's, lsu, creighton, temple and so on all blowing games the past week

[Chermy23]

That entire exchange was odd. It looked like the t was going on Farr for punching the air in disgust; Mack even scolded Farr as soon as Farr got to the bench. Refs were below average last night.


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Agreed. That was just a bizarre series of events.

[GoMuskies]

No chance with so many bubble teams like St Bonnie's, lsu, creighton, temple and so on all blowing games the past week

Perhaps, but if they go to St. John's 8-9 in the league (which is quite possible ), I'd advise them strongly to go ahead and win that game.

[XUFan09]

When I was teaching middle school, I would sometimes run into bad teachers who didn't know when to discipline children. The problem was that I couldn't countermand them in front of the kids, or I'd undermine their authority. They sucked, I knew they sucked, the kids knew they sucked, but I couldn't say anything. I imagine that frustration is how James Luckie's colleagues felt.

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[EastCoastXman]

That T was the Jamie Luckie "make-up" call to the T and Flagrant 1 called on Providence a few minutes before. The guy clearly grabbed JP's shirt going down the floor. No question of the foul. Cooley could not have possibly seen the play from his bench. Jamie Luckie is such a hack with his phantom calls and protecting both Dunn and Bentil!

[XfansinKy]

When I was teaching middle school, I would sometimes run into bad teachers who didn't know when to discipline children. The problem was that I couldn't countermand them in front of the kids, or I'd undermine their authority. They sucked, I knew they sucked, the kids knew they sucked, but I couldn't say anything. I imagine that frustration is how James Luckie's colleagues felt.

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Great way to put that in perspective and I agree 100%.

[X-band '01]

That T was the Jamie Luckie "make-up" call to the T and Flagrant 1 called on Providence a few minutes before. The guy clearly grabbed JP's shirt going down the floor. No question of the foul. Cooley could not have possibly seen the play from his bench. Jamie Luckie is such a hack with his phantom calls and protecting both Dunn and Bentil!

It looked like the Providence player gave JP a wedgie running down the floor - how could that not be flagrant-1? That has to be called.

It's probably the technical on Cooley that they wanted to "make up."

[GoMuskies]

I don't know. The Providence guy reached out and grabbed Macura's shirt on the way down the court. Fair enough. It was definitely a foul. But I'm not sure it was any more of an intentional foul than when LAJ reached out and grabbed Dunn when he was beat on a Dunn cut to the basket. If they'd called an intentional on Xavier like the one they called on Providence, I'm pretty sure Mack would have been T'd up, too.

[GIMMFD]

As a PT I would agree!

As studying to be a GP I would also agree, in medical school we don't really talk much about athletic injuries, more of the common sicknesses, diseases, gene mutations, etc. A Physical Therapist is probably the best bet. If Mack says Ed was fine, I'm certain Ed is fine and will be back out there against Georgetown. I just wonder what he tweaked since Mack said he didn't even know what the injury was.

[GoMuskies]

I was just flipping through the PC board to see what they had to say about us. Mostly what one might expect. And I know opposing teams don't like JP....but yikes:


"cant wait to hear Macura flipped his pick up truck drunk in 7 years"

[sgarcia]

I was just flipping through the PC board to see what they had to say about us. Mostly what one might expect. And I know opposing teams don't like JP....but yikes:


"cant wait to hear Macura flipped his pick up truck drunk in 7 years"

Are Providence fans as salty about Austin's meaningless dunk as Butler fans were about JP's dunk on Saturday?

[GoMuskies]

I wasn't looking specifically for discussion of the dunk, but I did not notice anyone talking about it.

[UCGRAD4X]

I was just flipping through the PC board to see what they had to say about us. Mostly what one might expect. And I know opposing teams don't like JP....but yikes:


"cant wait to hear Macura flipped his pick up truck drunk in 7 years"


I would hope to hear this individual summarily denounced.

Idiotic comment on several levels (not the least of which is the notion that one "can't wait" for something to happen in a defined length of time (7 years)).

[D-West & PO-Z]

As studying to be a GP I would also agree, in medical school we don't really talk much about athletic injuries, more of the common sicknesses, diseases, gene mutations, etc. A Physical Therapist is probably the best bet. If Mack says Ed was fine, I'm certain Ed is fine and will be back out there against Georgetown. I just wonder what he tweaked since Mack said he didn't even know what the injury was.

Yeah I'm curious as well. Glad he was cleared to return.

[zanesxu]

I don't know. The Providence guy reached out and grabbed Macura's shirt on the way down the court. Fair enough. It was definitely a foul. But I'm not sure it was any more of an intentional foul than when LAJ reached out and grabbed Dunn when he was beat on a Dunn cut to the basket. If they'd called an intentional on Xavier like the one they called on Providence, I'm pretty sure Mack would have been T'd up, too.

Macura's stories are piling up as a Legend of Instigation and Trash Talk... can you imagine an all time X Trash Talk Team? Tu at the point, Lyons / Crawford at shooting guard, JP and CJ at the 3/4... Maybe Stainbrook at center just to screw with the other teams' heads...

[THRILLHOUSE]

Macura's stories are piling up as a Legend of Instigation and Trash Talk... can you imagine an all time X Trash Talk Team? Tu at the point, Lyons / Crawford at shooting guard, JP and CJ at the 3/4... Maybe Stainbrook at center just to screw with the other teams' heads...

Need a spot for Kevin Frey on that team as well.

[bleedXblue]

That T was the Jamie Luckie "make-up" call to the T and Flagrant 1 called on Providence a few minutes before. The guy clearly grabbed JP's shirt going down the floor. No question of the foul. Cooley could not have possibly seen the play from his bench. Jamie Luckie is such a hack with his phantom calls and protecting both Dunn and Bentil!

if that's the same guy who called both T's he's a terrible; excuse for ref and is lousy at what he does...........holy those were two really bad calls

[Xtemporaneous]

So the world's worst official has a referee camp. http://www.mpcourier.com/adv/luckie-returns-official-camp-to-slu-20150620

I couldn't imagine a worse experience. He just probably goes through how to dramatically call techs.

[Nigel Tufnel]

The one play that I noticed last night with JP was in the first half when Fazekus (sp?) was called for over the back on JP. JP literally had the guy's arm pinned to his chest. So when JP went to jump, he couldn't because it looked like the guy was holding him when it was actually JP holding the other player. That Fazekus guy couldn't believe he was called for the foul. Classic JP.

[smileyy]

Speaking of dunks (from the other thread) -- is there any video of LAJ's late game steal+dunk that I saw in the play-by-play?

[xufan2434]

The one play that I noticed last night with JP was in the first half when Fazekus (sp?) was called for over the back on JP. JP literally had the guy's arm pinned to his chest. So when JP went to jump, he couldn't because it looked like the guy was holding him when it was actually JP holding the other player. That Fazekus guy couldn't believe he was called for the foul. Classic JP.

Not that I want to see it happen, but eventually at some point someone is going to lose their cool on JP more than we've seen. I don't know when it will be, but it's coming. Feel like it's been building the last couple games. Could see it being someone on GTown or SHU

[Chermy23]

The one play that I noticed last night with JP was in the first half when Fazekus (sp?) was called for over the back on JP. JP literally had the guy's arm pinned to his chest. So when JP went to jump, he couldn't because it looked like the guy was holding him when it was actually JP holding the other player. That Fazekus guy couldn't believe he was called for the foul. Classic JP.

That was so JP

[mid major]

SIT DOWN BENTIL! Once he fouled out the students kept chanting this but he never did sit down. Some of my friends who weren't at the game and saw it on TV said they couldn't hear the chants for him to sit down. I was in section 105 and I heard it clearly. Even Cooley got a chuckle out of it.

[xu82]

SIT DOWN BENTIL! Once he fouled out the students kept chanting this but he never did sit down. Some of my friends who weren't at the game and saw it on TV said they couldn't hear the chants for him to sit down. I was in section 105 and I heard it clearly. Even Cooley got a chuckle out of it.

The announcers even commented on the chant making it clear what they were saying. I hope Bentil was tired, because there was no way he could sit during the chant.

[UCGRAD4X]

The one play that I noticed last night with JP was in the first half when Fazekus (sp?) was called for over the back on JP. JP literally had the guy's arm pinned to his chest. So when JP went to jump, he couldn't because it looked like the guy was holding him when it was actually JP holding the other player. That Fazekus guy couldn't believe he was called for the foul. Classic JP.

Well, if the guy's arm is somewhere it's not supposed to be and JP makes sure it stays there so the ref can see it, more power to him.

Don't put your hands on JP or suffer the consequences.

Nuf said!

[Nigel Tufnel]

Well, if the guy's arm is somewhere it's not supposed to be and JP makes sure it stays there so the ref can see it, more power to him.

Don't put your hands on JP or suffer the consequences.

Nuf said!

I like the sentiment, but JP grabbed the guy's arm. It doesn't bother me....it was slick and he got away with it...but it was clearly toeing the line of being crafty and downright dirty.

http://friartv.blogspot.com

Go to about the 17:15 mark on the feed to see JP in action on the play in question.

[Masterofreality]

Macura's stories are piling up as a Legend of Instigation and Trash Talk... can you imagine an all time X Trash Talk Team? Tu at the point, Lyons / Crawford at shooting guard, JP and CJ at the 3/4... Maybe Stainbrook at center just to screw with the other teams' heads...

Jumping Jamal, "Give Me the Ball" Walker would be at the head of the class. That guy had New York Street rap that would melt pavement.

[Masterofreality]

That T was the Jamie Luckie "make-up" call to the T and Flagrant 1 called on Providence a few minutes before. The guy clearly grabbed JP's shirt going down the floor. No question of the foul. Cooley could not have possibly seen the play from his bench. Jamie Luckie is such a hack with his phantom calls and protecting both Dunn and Bentil!

Agree on all counts. I don't know if Luckie is just getting old, crotchety, or just losing his sheet, and that guy has reffed Final 4's...but last night was an abomination. He was absolutely terrible in all respects.

[smileyy]

Direct YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWZljHDxHCk

[bleedXblue]

The foul call on James that led to the technical was pure garbage. Hack of a ref.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Meant to comment on this yesterday but I didnt realize Jeff Battle was a coach for Providence. Must have missed that.

[MauriceX]

It looked like the Providence player gave JP a wedgie running down the floor - how could that not be flagrant-1? That has to be called.

It's probably the technical on Cooley that they wanted to "make up."

I don't know... if they called every jersey grab during a game, there would easily be 100 fouls a game. (That is assuming that the players would continue to do it their normal amount. In reality, they'd probably adjust, but you get the point). I would say 99% of the time, the refs let that one go. Maybe the ref had a different angle, but I didn't think it warranted any call, let alone a flagrant. Now, Cooley's reaction did warrant the technical. You can't tell a ref they are f'ing wrong multiple times and get away with it (even if the ref is f'ing wrong).

[xu82]

I don't know... if they called every jersey grab during a game, there would easily be 100 fouls a game. (That is assuming that the players would continue to do it their normal amount. In reality, they'd probably adjust, but you get the point). I would say 99% of the time, the refs let that one go. Maybe the ref had a different angle, but I didn't think it warranted any call, let alone a flagrant. Now, Cooley's reaction did warrant the technical. You can't tell a ref they are f'ing wrong multiple times and get away with it (even if the ref is f'ing wrong).

Sorry, but, are you serious? This wasn't Trevon curling around a pick and a little fist of fabric. This was a guy on a fast break at mid-court getting his jersey stretched back for all to see like the guy was trying to water ski behind him. In hockey I think they just give you the goal. That should be called EVERY time. You can't do that!

[XUMIOH12]

Sorry, but, are you serious? This wasn't Trevon curling around a pick and a little fist of fabric. This was a guy on a fast break at mid-court getting his jersey stretched back for all to see like the guy was trying to water ski behind him. In hockey I think they just give you the goal. That should be called EVERY time. You can't do that!

Yeah, i think intentionally grabbing a players jersey like that is supposed to be an automatic intentional foul and i thought the ref got that call right.

[XUMIOH12]

The announcers even commented on the chant making it clear what they were saying. I hope Bentil was tired, because there was no way he could sit during the chant.

When the next guy fouled out after Bentil, i was hoping he would just keep standing right next to Bentil the rest of the game too

[EastCoastXman]

Referee responsibility to have players all sitting on the bench. You see them police this all the time in games. Another missed call by Jamie Luckie! He didn't have the guts to tell him to sit down.

[Murph85]

I was at the game but recorded it. Got a chance to watch it last night.

First. The broadcast has incredibly limited camera angles and almost no replay. That made the JP incident very hard to evaluate. The Providence player did not seem to protest as much as the coach leaving me to believe the crime fit the punishment.

What really stood out was the first 50 seconds of the second half. 3 crap calls, 2 against X and 1 against P. The 4th foul called on Remy is terrible. Dunn crosses the lane and in process does a 180 causing him to slip and fall to the court. Whistle. Remy out. Dunn free to score the rest of the half without a blanket on him.

The Providence coach was quite bold in stating he would like to see us in the BE tourney. Give us some reasonable officiating and Remy/Sumner for the second half and we could have had a monumental beat down unlike any Providence has had to weather this year or in years past.

In addition, London looked really relaxed for a guy getting precious minutes. Nice passing and obviously a good shot. Can't wait to see the 1-3-1 next year with the length of Sumner- Reynolds - London That is a lot of real estate to throw around or over. And yes, Reynolds isn't going anywhere IMHO.

[XfansinKy]

I was at the game but recorded it. Got a chance to watch it last night.

First. The broadcast has incredibly limited camera angles and almost no replay. That made the JP incident very hard to evaluate. The Providence player did not seem to protest as much as the coach leaving me to believe the crime fit the punishment.

What really stood out was the first 50 seconds of the second half. 3 crap calls, 2 against X and 1 against P. The 4th foul called on Remy is terrible. Dunn crosses the lane and in process does a 180 causing him to slip and fall to the court. Whistle. Remy out. Dunn free to score the rest of the half without a blanket on him.

The Providence coach was quite bold in stating he would like to see us in the BE tourney. Give us some reasonable officiating and Remy/Sumner for the second half and we could have had a monumental beat down unlike any Providence has had to weather this year or in years past.

In addition, London looked really relaxed for a guy getting precious minutes. Nice passing and obviously a good shot. Can't wait to see the 1-3-1 next year with the length of Sumner- Reynolds - London That is a lot of real estate to throw around or over. And yes, Reynolds isn't going anywhere IMHO.

Yes Reynolds should stay. All age means is he may not have a long pro career. What's one more year? If he makes that junior to senior jump like so many X bigs do, he should average a double double, which doing that in the Big East makes him a 1st round pick in the NBA draft right behind Sunner.

[ammtd34]

Yes Reynolds should stay. All age means is he may not have a long pro career. What's one more year? If he makes that junior to senior jump like so many X bigs do, he should average a double double, which doing that in the Big East makes him a 1st round pick in the NBA draft right behind Sunner.

If an average basketball career is 10 years, 1 year is 10% of your total earnings. I understand your point, but that's certainly a huge consideration.

[XMuskieFTW]

If an average basketball career is 10 years, 1 year is 10% of your total earnings. I understand your point, but that's certainly a huge consideration.

Yes, but if you can raise your average of 9.7 and 7 to 12 and 8 and possibly get drafted 2nd round, even if you don't make the team, I feel like you'll pull a much more sizeable check from Europe. That and a free grad degree!

[Caveat]

Yes Reynolds should stay. All age means is he may not have a long pro career. What's one more year? If he makes that junior to senior jump like so many X bigs do, he should average a double double, which doing that in the Big East makes him a 1st round pick in the NBA draft right behind Sunner.

Given his age, I don't see Reynolds improving all that much. If I were giving him advice, I'd tell him to go take his payday in Europe or China.

[Drew]

Did anyone have a problem with how X behaved in that last 10 minutes? Basketball is a competitive game so I never fault anyone for getting emotional. But it seemed like it was very detrimental and could've led to a loss against a better team. We were up 20 with ten minutes to go and instead of continuing to play solid ball we got chippy and emotional. Maybe I am wrong, but it seems losing their poise only fed PC more energy.

[D-West & PO-Z]

If an average basketball career is 10 years, 1 year is 10% of your total earnings. I understand your point, but that's certainly a huge consideration.

Yeah, one year is pretty significant.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yes, but if you can raise your average of 9.7 and 7 to 12 and 8 and possibly get drafted 2nd round, even if you don't make the team, I feel like you'll pull a much more sizeable check from Europe. That and a free grad degree!

Jalen is who he is for the most part, he would be 24 next draft, 2 points and 1 rebound is going to make the difference in him getting drafted next year if he isnt going to get drafted this year. (Not sure if he would this year or not)

[XMuskieFTW]

Jalen is who he is for the most part, he would be 24 next draft, 2 points and 1 rebound is going to make the difference in him getting drafted next year if he isnt going to get drafted this year. (Not sure if he would this year or not)

True. Also would he stay when he knows he'll probably only get 22-25 minutes a game again next year? If he stays, we will have 7 guys who play either the 4 or the 5.(Assuming Tre moves back to strictly the 3) The only way I see him staying being worth it is if he can stay out of foul trouble and average like 30 minutes and 15 and 9 or so. Probably not realistic to expect.

[MauriceX]

Sorry, but, are you serious? This wasn't Trevon curling around a pick and a little fist of fabric. This was a guy on a fast break at mid-court getting his jersey stretched back for all to see like the guy was trying to water ski behind him. In hockey I think they just give you the goal. That should be called EVERY time. You can't do that!

I just went back and watched it again. This time I did notice more of a forcible pull down motion by Edwards that I didn't see the first time. That does make it look more serious. My first reaction was that he wasn't even looking at Macura, he was trying to get back on transition D and was keeping track of where his guy was and they got tangled. The quick arm movement down changed my mind. Although I think JP sold the call a little too. (It is JP after all.) But it definitely wasn't a guy water skiing and it wasn't a fast break, as you stated. If it hadn't been called, I don't think it would have impacted the play in any way. Macura wasn't on his way to score or anything, he was just going down the court.

I'd also like to point out the stupidity of Edwards as he committed the foul about two feet in front of the official. Link to watch for yourself. (https://youtu.be/FWZljHDxHCk?t=27m40s)

[bobbiemcgee]

Flagrant 1 personal foul:

A flagrant 1 personal foul is a personal foul that
is deemed excessive in nature and/or unnecessary, but is not based solely
on the severity of the act. Examples include, but are not limited to:

1.Causing excessive contact with an opponent
;
2.Contact that is not a legitimate attempt to play the ball or player
, specifically designed to stop or keep the clock from starting;

3.Pushing or holding a player from behind to prevent a score.

-NCAA rulebook 2015

[chico]

I just went back and watched it again. This time I did notice more of a forcible pull down motion by Edwards that I didn't see the first time. That does make it look more serious. My first reaction was that he wasn't even looking at Macura, he was trying to get back on transition D and was keeping track of where his guy was and they got tangled. The quick arm movement down changed my mind. Although I think JP sold the call a little too. (It is JP after all.) But it definitely wasn't a guy water skiing and it wasn't a fast break, as you stated. If it hadn't been called, I don't think it would have impacted the play in any way. Macura wasn't on his way to score or anything, he was just going down the court.

I'd also like to point out the stupidity of Edwards as he committed the foul about two feet in front of the official. Link to watch for yourself. (https://youtu.be/FWZljHDxHCk?t=27m40s)

This is the kind of stuff Macura is the master at. And most savvy players do stuff like give a little tug on the jersey of the guy they're defending, or maybe step on his foot as they're about to make a cut, or pin a guy's arm to make it look like you're the one being held. It's subtle stuff that officials oftentimes can't see, but when it's done at the wrong time in the wrong place (like Edwards) it results in a foul. Officials are by and large pretty lazy, and if something looks like a would they'll call a foul. That's where Macura's ability to "slightly exaggerate" physical contact helps him get calls.

[smileyy]

JP would be the most hated player in the nation if he played for Duke. That said, he's already pretty hated. Love this bit from Banners on the Parkway talking to a Georgetown blogger:



Q: 1.) This Georgetown team is frustrating to watch. Let's pretend that it's the pro's and you're the GM. Who do you trade on this team?

A: Thanks! Well, since our season is in the tank and we're already eyeing next year, the smart thing to do would be to move senior assets/expiring deals for young talent and picks/scholarships. The only guy that I think teams would be interested in that fits the bill would be D'vauntes Smith-Rivera, and I think he'd provide a lot of value to any team that desires a long run in March but lacks a combo guard with a smooth stroke. As far as what we could get in return, there are like hundreds of possibilities, but if we were to swing a trade with Xavier, for example, I would suggest DSR for Larry Austin, Jr. and J.P. Macura. Austin, Jr. could get a lot of minutes for us at the PG spot next season and I'd only acquire Macura in order to sit him at the end of the bench and never play that punk.


http://www.bannersontheparkway.com/2016/2/19/11060390/pre-duel-pleasantries-georgetown

[X-man]

I agree that it was a flagrant foul. That said, Grayson Allen's intentional trip was far worse. And because he is a Dukie and the game was at Cameron, the ref's had to "review" the play before finally calling a flagrant 1. Here's the video link: http://nesn.com/2016/02/dukes-grayson-allen-appears-to-intentionally-trip-opponent/.

[MauriceX]

Flagrant 1 personal foul:

3.Pushing or holding a player from behind to prevent a score.

-NCAA rulebook 2015

Reading this, I actually don't think it's a flagrant for that reason. JP wasn't anywhere close to scoring. He was just coming down the court to set up on offense. If it stopped at "Pushing or holding a player from behind" I'd be on board.

Now, could it have been called because it wasn't a legitimate attempt to play the ball or player? I would say yes on that.

[smileyy]

Now, could it have been called because it wasn't a legitimate attempt to play the ball or player? I would say yes on that.

That would be my interpretation as well.

[TUclutch]

Need a spot for Kevin Frey on that team as well.

Trash Talk Team:

G Tu
G Lyons
G Crawford
F Frey
F Reynolds
6th JP

Christ that team might get T'd out of most games lmao. Extremely talented so if they can avoid being thrown out they might be a top 15 team:logo:

[zanesxu]

Trash Talk Team:

G Tu
G Lyons
G Crawford
F Frey
F Reynolds
6th JP

Christ that team might get T'd out of most games lmao. Extremely talented so if they can avoid being thrown out they might be a top 15 team:logo:

Don't forget CJ Anderson... he wouldn't shake hands with the other team after the national anthem...

[TUclutch]

Don't forget CJ Anderson... he wouldn't shake hands with the other team after the national anthem...

I didn't forget him. He'd be 7th on my list. I tried to keep it with trash talk but also skill and go by position as much as I could.

[chico]

No trash talking team is complete without Lenny Brown.

[xuwin]

Given his age, I don't see Reynolds improving all that much. If I were giving him advice, I'd tell him to go take his payday in Europe or China.

I would tell him to stay another year and work on his graduate degree which may well be his real future.

[XMuskieFTW]

I would tell him to stay another year and work on his graduate degree which may well be his real future.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/xavier-musketeers-basketball-jalen-reynolds-barber-haircuts-011516

Don't need a grad degree to open up Krispy Kuts.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I would tell him to stay another year and work on his graduate degree which may well be his real future.

Eh, that might be a decision that costs him several hundred thousand dollars, probably would need to see a cost/benefit on that one.

Plus we had a discussion on here no too long ago where someone (I think 'brew) said that student athletes were allowed to come back later and finish their degrees for free. I found that surprising and dont know if we ever found that to be true but if so he could do that later.

[smileyy]

Given's Reynolds' apparent career goal of flexing after dunking, he may as well get paid for doing that.