Great quote from a Providence messageboard

[X-man]

This says it all about our depth this year.... "boy do they have a lot of options. One of the guys sitting with me last night said we had the 1st and second best players, and X had 3-10, and when you throw in the bench, it was even more lopsided". This from the Scout messageboard for the Friars. Here's the link to the thread: http://www.scout.com/college/providence/forums/1323-friar-talk/14499561-xavier.

[muskiefan82]

That group actually sounds sane and reasoned.

[SemajParlor]

Gotta give props to the PC crowd last night. Significantly louder than any gym I can remember in a long time. Much louder than those pansies at Nova.

[Blue Blooded-05]

It's an interesting year atop the Big East. Xavier matches up favorably against Providence. Providence matches up favorably against Villanova. Villanova matches up favorably against Xavier.

[xufan2434]

It's an interesting year atop the Big East. Xavier matches up favorably against Providence. Providence matches up favorably against Villanova. Villanova matches up favorably against Xavier.

Saw that on their thread too. I think it's pretty accurate. Sooo irritating with the Villanova thing. One of them said based on their game at Nova, he wouldn't say they're a good shooting team. And yet they shoot lights out against X every damn time we play them. It has to keep Mack up at night wondering what he can do differently to beat them

[Smails]

I'm starting to like their fan base a lot. They have an entire thread dedicated to despising JP Macura...and I agree with just about all of it. Love me some JP. Here are some of my favorites:

I haven't really disliked a player to this extent in quite some time. He seems to be the epitome of player you love to have on your team (maybe some, not me), but really hate if he's against you. He flops, draws BS fouls with with that brutal head snap, always seems to have a sh!t eating grin on his face, and is incessantly chirping throughout the game.

Really seems like the pre one-and-done era at Duke kind of player


Maybe most despised white player in the league....? I am pretty sure he relishes the role.

Macura is just a PITA. Classic white guy who flops around looking for fouls.

[drudy23]

Nova game at Cintas will be a different story. I don't think the first one is a good comparison based on the circumstances.

[Muskie in dayton]

Really seems like the pre one-and-done era at Duke kind of player.

In the poster's defense, they know about one and done.

[X-band '01]

We'll also see this weekend how Providence matches up with Georgetown - they also swept the Hoyas last year.

[XUFan09]

Providence is my favorite conference opponent, both because of Ed Cooley and because of the fanbase. I just wish it didn't sound like they were chanting "Flyers" whenever they chanted "Friars."

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[zanesxu]

The importance of our depth and our moxy cannot be overstated...
-Depth: Sumner has a below to well below average game; Farr fouls out with 10+ to play; Trevon fouls out with 5+ to play
-Moxy: Overcome the rowdiest Providence crowd possibly ever; overcome the early Providence run; overcome 29 points from Providence in the final 10 minutes; oh, and JP. He's moxy.. and he's CJ Anderson's favorite player on this team

[NOVA]

before you call the pavillion pansey, please know that the fans in attendnce this year were shaken up quite a bit by the Sumner injury> i was there and the worry by the entire crownd was very tangible and trust me it was hard for everyone to get totally back into it. Was also a blow out from the get-go as have been all your games at the pavillion. on a side note, I hope next year X is scheduled at Wells fargo.

[xudash]

NOVA, I certainly don't regard the Pavillion and a Villanova crowd as being pansy. I've watched other Nova games played there. It's a solid atmosphere as it is, and will only get better through improvements to that facility.

In the meantime, JP has some "followers" in Providence: http://www.scout.com/college/providence/forums/1323-friar-talk/14499928-macura-most-despised-be-player

[LA Muskie]

The importance of our depth and our moxy cannot be overstated...
-Depth: Sumner has a below to well below average game; Farr fouls out with 10+ to play; Trevon fouls out with 5+ to play
-Moxy: Overcome the rowdiest Providence crowd possibly ever; overcome the early Providence run; overcome 29 points from Providence in the final 10 minutes; oh, and JP. He's moxy.. and he's CJ Anderson's favorite player on this team

Trevon fouled out with about 2:30 to play. If it had been 5:00 we'd have been in trouble.


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[paulxu]

Contrast the mostly reasonable fan responses to a loss on the Providence board with fans on a Dayton board after a loss.

Night v. Day.

[SemajParlor]

before you call the pavillion pansey, please know that the fans in attendnce this year were shaken up quite a bit by the Sumner injury> i was there and the worry by the entire crownd was very tangible and trust me it was hard for everyone to get totally back into it. Was also a blow out from the get-go as have been all your games at the pavillion. on a side note, I hope next year X is scheduled at Wells fargo.

Thanks, I was there also.

[SC in DC]

Just think what XN would think of JP if he had gone to Butler! O MY!

[XUMIOH12]

Just think what XN would think of JP if he had gone to Butler! O MY!

we would hate that guy like no other hahaha

[X-man]

My friends and I keep wondering how JP would be viewed by the masses if he played at Duke. My guess is that he would be the most despised player in America. Glad we got him; he, Myles, and Jimmy Farr are my three favorite players on this year's team.

[drudy23]

JP is a more talented Chris Mack in his playing days....I think that says it all.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just think what XN would think of JP if he had gone to Butler! O MY!


we would hate that guy like no other hahaha

Without a doubt.

[RoseyMuskie]

Regarding JP, while there are times where I believe he crosses the proverbial "line," I cannot recall a time where his antics created a negative impact. He either draws a double foul, or double tech. And then he's under the skin of opponents for the rest of the game. You could make the case that is a net positive, with it being a wash, worst case scenario.

I'd imagine there was a single tech thrown in there somewhere, but I'm confident he has a method to his madness.

[GoMuskies]

I'd still like him. I liked Matt Howard and Gordan Hayward.

[LA Muskie]

JP is a more talented Chris Mack in his playing days....I think that says it all.

JP Macura, XU Head Coach-in-Training...


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[drudy23]

Regarding JP, while there are times where I believe he crosses the proverbial "line," I cannot recall a time where his antics created a negative impact. He either draws a double foul, or double tech. And then he's under the skin of opponents for the rest of the game. You could make the case that is a net positive, with it being a wash, worst case scenario.

I'd imagine there was a single tech thrown in there somewhere, but I'm confident he has a method to his madness.

Because like his game, he's smart about it. Very subtle in his trash talk game...and never falls for having to "prove himself" if someone retaliates. He's probably got the most basketball IQ on the team.

[GoMuskies]

But is JP a d-bag? Can anyone who lives on campus provide insight?

[LA Muskie]

But is JP a d-bag? Can anyone who lives on campus provide insight?

Let's be honest. The odds are pretty high.


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[RealDeal]

But is JP a d-bag? Can anyone who lives on campus provide insight?

I saw him at Bravo after a game with his parents and what I assume is his girlfriend, they all looked nice. So I'm going with that.

[GIMMFD]

Let's be honest. The odds are pretty high.


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Meh I've heard mixed sentiments, some say he is, others say he isn't (this was last year of course), but to be honest, that's the least of our concern is if someone is a douchebag on campus.

[paulxu]

I'd still like him. I liked Matt Howard and Gordan Hayward.

Did you like Adam Morrison?

[LA Muskie]

Meh I've heard mixed sentiments, some say he is, others say he isn't (this was last year of course), but to be honest, that's the least of our concern is if someone is a douchebag on campus.

I think the original reference was in relation to the "Chris Mack was a douche in college" thread from a few weeks ago.

Otherwise I don't think anyone on here really cares.


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[GIMMFD]

I think the original reference was in relation to the "Chris Mack was a douche in college" thread from a few weeks ago.

Otherwise I don't think anyone on here really cares.


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Haha oh I know it is, I was just sarcastically answering the question...

[xufan2434]

Regarding JP, while there are times where I believe he crosses the proverbial "line," I cannot recall a time where his antics created a negative impact. He either draws a double foul, or double tech. And then he's under the skin of opponents for the rest of the game. You could make the case that is a net positive, with it being a wash, worst case scenario.

I'd imagine there was a single tech thrown in there somewhere, but I'm confident he has a method to his madness.

Agree with all of this. For majority of the time, he's simply just playing hard. I don't even know how much he talks anymore, he's just annoying with his play. And it's frustrating because he looks slow but savy enough to score on you. I don't think he's ever dirty or does things like a Delladova does for the Cavs. Biggest improvement I've seen from JP, aside from defense at the top of the zone, is his rebounding. Seems like every missed X shot, he has a hand in there tipping it around. Doesn't always make a difference but that presence on every shot goes a long way

[muskiefan82]

Can JP jump off one of the other players feet? That would make him the greatest.

[RealDeal]

Did you like Adam Morrison?

Does JP drop the N bomb on opposing players? Morrison was a shit bag.

[LA Muskie]

Agree with all of this. For majority of the time, he's simply just playing hard. I don't even know how much he talks anymore, he's just annoying with his play. And it's frustrating because he looks slow but savy enough to score on you. I don't think he's ever dirty or does things like a Delladova does for the Cavs.
Actually, I've seen JP take a number of shots at people (elbows, forearms). He's sneaky.

[Nigel Tufnel]

But is JP a d-bag? Can anyone who lives on campus provide insight?

I actually met him last summer at a well known establishment near campus. He was quiet but very friendly. Talked to my drunk ass for about half an hour.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Actually, I've seen JP take a number of shots at people (elbows, forearms). He's sneaky.

Yeah agree.

[XUFan09]

Actually, I've seen JP take a number of shots at people (elbows, forearms). He's sneaky.
Yup. It's the classic "provoke the opponent when the ref isn't looking. " And then, by the time the guy responds, the refs is looking again and calls a foul...which pisses off the opponent even more.

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[paulxu]

Can JP jump off one of the other players feet? That would make him the greatest.

Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAhXwmsvC9Y

I do think Mack must see a lot of himself in JP. Tough, resilient, not giving up or in. I love it.

[XUMIOH12]

He really is the definition of the guy you love on your team but hate to play against. I'd be surprised if he didnt average 15ppg his senior year.

[Muskie]

I actually met him last summer at a well known establishment near campus. He was quiet but very friendly. Talked to my drunk ass for about half an hour.

Was this in real time or drunk time?

[GoMuskies]

I actually met him last summer at a well known establishment near campus. He was quiet but very friendly. Talked to my drunk ass for about half an hour.

OK, so we can cross JP off the future coach list then.

[xu 89]

He has a little bit of Kevin Frey in him. Loved him on our team but would have hated him on any other.

[SemajParlor]

Black kid - thug
White kid - douche

Who cares. Usually comes from the losing side.

[GoMuskies]

Black kid - thug
White kid - douche



No, those are different categories. The white equivalent to thug is goon.

[Caveat]

My favorite thing in any Xavier game these days is the inevitable off-the-ball foul Macura draws when some frustrated player throws an extra elbow or sets an extra hard screen to try and shut him up a bit when they think the ref isn't looking.

[X Factor]

JP is one of my favorite players. He almost made a ridiculous left-handed reverse layup last night that would've been Pete Maravich-esque had it dropped, but it somehow bounced out.

Someone mentioned it earlier, but that falling out of bounds save under the bucket right to James was beautiful, but Farr missed the layup.

Once JP starts shooting like he's capable, he will be a tough matchup.

And I don't care about his talking on the court, nudging a guy here or there, etc. Doesn't bother me at all.

[Nigel Tufnel]

[/B]

Was this in real time or drunk time?

That, my friend, is a good question.

[Nigel Tufnel]

OK, so we can cross JP off the future coach list then.

Relentless...I had no idea that thread would gain such traction.

[GoMuskies]

For the record, I thought your thread was fine. I think the reaction to it was more amusing than anything.

[xukeith]

Of course. Our smack talker is cool when he plays for us. Buty if he plays for another team, he is a punk that is sad he doesn't start.
One day he will get punched. Hope it doesn't happen. I bet he got in fights in X's practice.

[XUMIOH12]

Of course. Our smack talker is cool when he plays for us. Buty if he plays for another team, he is a punk that is sad he doesn't start.
One day he will get punched. Hope it doesn't happen. I bet he got in fights in X's practice.

That is ridiculous.

Why would he get punched? its not like players are going around throwing punches every game because they dont like a player on the other team.

[gladdenguy]

Because like his game, he's smart about it. Very subtle in his trash talk game...and never falls for having to "prove himself" if someone retaliates. He's probably got the most basketball IQ on the team.

This. Absolutely. He can get under their skin when nobody is watching, sometimes the ref catches an eye, then when the attention is on JP, he draws it out, forgets about it, focuses on what he needs to do and what is the best for the team......then plays more basketball as hard as he can. I absolutely love him. Jalen, on the other hand, can't let things go and negatively impacts his team. JP should teach him the way.

[ammtd34]

I'd be pretty surprised if there were never fights in practice. I assume it happens a few times a year, then guys go about their business and get on with it.

[XUMIOH12]

I'd be pretty surprised if there were never fights in practice. I assume it happens a few times a year, then guys go about their business and get on with it.

I was thinking actual fights with punches being thrown, like the poster was mentioning

[IM4X]

I'm starting to like their fan base a lot. They have an entire thread dedicated to despising JP Macura...and I agree with just about all of it. Love me some JP. Here are some of my favorites:

I haven't really disliked a player to this extent in quite some time. He seems to be the epitome of player you love to have on your team (maybe some, not me), but really hate if he's against you. He flops, draws BS fouls with with that brutal head snap, always seems to have a sh!t eating grin on his face, and is incessantly chirping throughout the game.

Really seems like the pre one-and-done era at Duke kind of player


Maybe most despised white player in the league....? I am pretty sure he relishes the role.

Macura is just a PITA. Classic white guy who flops around looking for fouls.


Good find. Very enjoyable.

[LA Muskie]

I'd be pretty surprised if there were never fights in practice. I assume it happens a few times a year, then guys go about their business and get on with it.

I'm sure there are some heated moments -- Chris preaches competition in practice and is all about game speed and intensity. Flare ups are bound to happen. But I think internal "fights" are far more common in football, where you essentially have 2 teams that go at it throughout training camp and practice and generally don't play "together" at all.


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[paulxu]

I'd be pretty surprised if there were never fights in practice. I assume it happens a few times a year, then guys go about their business and get on with it.

....see Blake Griffin.

[IM4X]

Nice Thread.

[IM4X]

Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAhXwmsvC9Y

I do think Mack must see a lot of himself in JP. Tough, resilient, not giving up or in. I love it.

Never saw this video before... Love it! Thx for posting.

[ammtd34]

I was thinking actual fights with punches being thrown, like the poster was mentioning

So am I. There was at least one a season on the soccer team. They happen, they're done, and you come to practice the next day.

[xavierj]

Of course. Our smack talker is cool when he plays for us. Buty if he plays for another team, he is a punk that is sad he doesn't start.
One day he will get punched. Hope it doesn't happen. I bet he got in fights in X's practice.

Nope. I have been to a couple of practices with our basketball team. He seems to have a ton of fun and his teammates seen to really like him. Also very good with the kids. I dont think who you see in games is who he is. He plays a role and I think his coaches and teammates love it.

[MADXSTER]

I would love to have a hidden microphone on JP and be able to hear exactly what he says to his opponent. We would all probably die laughing.

[Masterofreality]

Providence is my favorite conference opponent, both because of Ed Cooley and because of the fanbase. I just wish it didn't sound like they were chanting "Flyers" whenever they chanted "Friars."

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Agree. Had a great, fun experience at Providence last year, other than we lost the game. Big fan of Providence. Love Cooley.

[Roach]

Just think what XN would think of JP if he had gone to Butler! O MY!

Oddly enough, it's Butler's fans that I have always despised. I've generally liked their players. I met Shelvin Mack at Martin's Tavern in DC while he was playing for the Wizards. He was very friendly and a total gentleman, never once complained or refused when people walked up to him for a photo. He always smiled politely and agreed.

One exception - Matt Howard. That guy annoyed the hell out of me ... but really only because he never seemed to have exceptional skills, but always played well above his apparent talent, especially against us. It's the same reason that, to this day, I cannot stand the mere mention of the name Brian Cardinal.

[Roach]

Also, Georgetown's fans seem to have a particular dislike of JP as well. From their SB Nation page -


I’m not saying that JP Macura would buy a patent on drugs that treat AIDS and then raise its price by a factor of 50...but I’m also not saying that he wouldn’t.

I do know that he plays dirty, and he dragged my boy LJ Peak down by the waist and sold it to the refs as a double foul. Also, look at him!

Go away, JP Macura, nobody likes you.

http://www.casualhoya.com/2016/1/20/10796696/the-casual-awards-skyline-chili-is-trash

[D-West & PO-Z]

Brian Cardinal.

HA! Blast from the past, I disliked that dude as well.

[X-band '01]

Also, Georgetown's fans seem to have a particular dislike of JP as well. From their SB Nation page -



http://www.casualhoya.com/2016/1/20/10796696/the-casual-awards-skyline-chili-is-trash

The line about the AIDS drug is awesome.

[Cheesehead]

I'm sure there are some heated moments -- Chris preaches competition in practice and is all about game speed and intensity. Flare ups are bound to happen. But I think internal "fights" are far more common in football, where you essentially have 2 teams that go at it throughout training camp and practice and generally don't play "together" at all.


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There have been skirmishes but heat of the moment stuff. I think team has good chemistry.

[JTG]

Oddly enough, it's Butler's fans that I have always despised. I've generally liked their players. I met Shelvin Mack at Martin's Tavern in DC while he was playing for the Wizards. He was very friendly and a total gentleman, never once complained or refused when people walked up to him for a photo. He always smiled politely and agreed.

One exception - Matt Howard. That guy annoyed the hell out of me ... but really only because he never seemed to have exceptional skills, but always played well above his apparent talent, especially against us. It's the same reason that, to this day, I cannot stand the mere mention of the name Brian Cardinal.

JP "is" Matt Howard, only with more talent. But because he's ours we love him.

[ballyhoohoo]

I cannot stand the mere mention of the name Brian Cardinal.



HA! Blast from the past, I disliked that dude as well.

I heard the NCAA just granted him five more years of eligibility.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I heard the NCAA just granted him five more years of eligibility.

Wouldnt surprise me, just extending his record for most years playing a college sport, currently at 7.

[vee4xu]

I was sitting next to bourbonman at the Seton Hall game and he had a great quote about JP:

"The play isn't over until JP says it's over."

[bobbiemcgee]

More fun:

http://www.scout.com/college/providence/forums/1323-friar-talk/14499928-macura-most-despised-be-player