XAVIER vs GEORGETOWN

[MADXSTER]

1914 vs 1915

#5 Xavier University Musketeers (16-1) RPI 3, SOS 13, KENPOM 8
W Miami(OH) 81-72
W Missouri 78-66
W Michigan 86-70
W NKU 78-66
W Alabama 64-45
W USC 87-77
W _ayton 90-61
W Western Kentucky 95-64
W Wright State 90-55
W Cincinnati 65-55
W Auburn 85-61
W Wake Forest 78-70
L Villanova 95-64
W Butler 88-69
W St Johns 74-66
W DePaul 84-64
W Marquette 74-66

vs Georgetown Hoyas (11-7) RPI 104, SOS 73, KENPOM 66
L Radford 82-80
L Maryland 75-71
W Wisconsin 71-61
L Duke 86-84
W Bryant 77-47
W Maryland Eastern Shore 68-49
W Syracuse 79-72
W Brown 74-57
W UNC Wilmington 87-82
L Monmouth 83-68
L UNC Ashville 79-73
W Charlotte 62-59
W DePaul 70-58
W Marquette 80-70
L Creighton 79-66
W DePaul 74-63
W St John's 93-73
L Villanova 55-50


Location: Cintas
Tuesday Jan 19th 2016 at 8:30pm EST
Television: FS1
Radio: 700WLW-AM with play-by-play from Xavier Hall of Famer and former Musketeer standout Joe Sunderman ('79). Analysis will be provided by Xavier Hall of Famer and XU all-time leading scorer Byron Larkin ('88).

[xufan2434]

Not sure how many people watched the GTown/Nova game on Saturday, but Georgetown's offense is atrocious right now. They have absolutely zero ball movement and usually rely on DSR to do something towards the end of the shot clock. It was honestly a terrible game to watch.

They do bring solid defense but overall, it's sad to see what's happened to them. JTIII has to be on the hot seat at least a little bit now, right?? Every reporter I've seen that has been asked the question has said no.. But I don't see how they can keep doing this. Been one disappointment after another. And I know they've struggled in the tournament, but Holy Crap -- They haven't made it to the 2nd weekend since 07' when they went to the Final 4. It's been 9 years since they made it to at least the Sweet 16. If this league wants to take the next step, then they need Georgetown to return to prominence. I love having X at the top, but if Gtown can return to a Top 20 program, than it would be huge

[BMoreX]

This may sound morbid and I don't want it to sound that way or be disrespectful at all, but as long as JT2 is around, JT3 will be the coach of Georgetown.

[scoscox]

I agree, I thought JTIII was a good hire at the time because they were struggling after JTII left and he did have some initial success, but they seem to underperform based on their talent almost every year. Their offense is helpless without DSR and most of the time even DSR is not that aggressive about scoring. Whenever I watch Georgetown I get the feeling that they just play with an almost entitled or just lazy mindset half the time and JTIII tends to come off that way as a coach. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the feeling I get.

[Masterofreality]

Georgetown has a bunch of guys who have the wrong skill set for the "Princeton offense" that JTIII runs. They're too athletic and should be given more of an open court, free wheeling style. It is ridiculous that Thompson keeps putting reins on those guys. HE is the problem.

[xufan2434]

This may sound morbid and I don't want it to sound that way or be disrespectful at all, but as long as JT2 is around, JT3 will be the coach of Georgetown.

And I don't disagree with this at all. I would love to hear from some Georgetown fans actually because I would find it hard to believe they aren't at least debating the idea of letting him go. As MOR said, it's almost like the Princeton offense is the only offense he knows how to run and refuses to recruit to fit the need. That talent isn't bad. DSR, Copeland, Peak, Cameron, etc are all good players that just look frustrated and stuck in mud.

[scoscox]

Couldn't agree more

[Muskie]

Lets go X

[BMoreX]

Georgetowns plane just left DC.

[LA Muskie]

And I don't disagree with this at all. I would love to hear from some Georgetown fans actually because I would find it hard to believe they aren't at least debating the idea of letting him go. As MOR said, it's almost like the Princeton offense is the only offense he knows how to run and refuses to recruit to fit the need. That talent isn't bad. DSR, Copeland, Peak, Cameron, etc are all good players that just look frustrated and stuck in mud.

I'm a GTown grad school alum with pretty close continuing ties back to campus. I'm sure there are some die-hard fans (I never became one, having grown up a 'Cuse fan and being a Xavier alum) who would like to see him go. But the garden variety fans/alum? Honestly I just don't think they care enough to get worked up over JTIII. As a sports fan it's a pretty sad state of affairs. They almost seem resigned to a future of mediocrity.


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[UCGRAD4X]

I'm a GTown grad school alum with pretty close continuing ties back to campus. I'm sure there are some die-hard fans (I never became one, having grown up a 'Cuse fan and being a Xavier alum) who would like to see him go. But the garden variety fans/alum? Honestly I just don't think they care enough to get worked up over JTIII. As a sports fan it's a pretty sad state of affairs. They almost seem resigned to a future of mediocrity.

That is sad. Remember when beating Georgetown meant something...the first really big win I remember as an X fan.

I like what it says about Xavier's recent success - what this match-up has become. What it says about 'Hoya nation' sucks - for us too in certain respects.

[Muskie]

That is sad. Remember when beating Georgetown meant something...the first really big win I remember as an X fan.

I like what it says about Xavier's recent success - what this match-up has become. What it says about 'Hoya nation' sucks - for us too in certain respects.

I was thinking about this when driving into the office. I still consider Georgetown vs X to be a marquee match up. But increasingly, that's based more on nostalgia than recent history.

[dc_x]

The issue with GTown's offense this year is they don't have a point guard. DSR is their only quality guard and he is more of a shooter than a ball handler. Nobody can create offense for anyone else, so they turn the ball over too much and shoot a ton of 3's.

[XU 87]

Georgetown has a bunch of guys who have the wrong skill set for the "Princeton offense" that JTIII runs. They're too athletic and should be given more of an open court, free wheeling style. It is ridiculous that Thompson keeps putting reins on those guys. HE is the problem.

I agree. I think this is why they have struggled in the NCAA's lately (although he did get them to final four in 2007). Playing good defense only gets you so far in the NCAA. You have to be able to score.

He has too good of players to play that slow Princeton style offense with all of the back door cuts etc. I think he needs to let his guys play a little bit more freely on offense.

I think JT3 is a good recruiter and knows how to coach. His teams seem to play hard and with discipline. I just think he needs to change his offensive philosophy.

[runningman19]

1914 vs 1915


vs Georgetown Bulldogs (11-7) RPI 104, SOS 73, KENPOM 66



I always thought it was the Georgetown Hoyas. In either case, XU in a rout by 19.

[MADXSTER]

I always thought it was the Georgetown Hoyas. In either case, XU in a rout by 19.

Ha! Keeping you guys on your toes....that and I shouldn't put this stuff up when I'm drinking.

[MADXSTER]

That is sad. Remember when beating Georgetown meant something...the first really big win I remember as an X fan.

I like what it says about Xavier's recent success - what this match-up has become. What it says about 'Hoya nation' sucks - for us too in certain respects.

That victory was also arguably Georgetown's best team ever.

[GoMuskies]

That victory was also arguably Georgetown's best team ever.

If one is making a really bad argument. See 1985.

[bjf123]

I just hope the players don't let their school record #5 ranking go to their heads. I'm sure Chris will be all over that, but let's just say I'm concerned.


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[bleedXblue]

I cant imagine the G'town fans aren't growing a little restless.......

[MADXSTER]

If one is making a really bad argument. See 1985.

That was the game I was referring to and I was at that game. AWESOME GAME!!

[GoMuskies]

That was the game I was referring to and I was at that game. AWESOME GAME!!

You weren't talking about Xavier beating Mourning and Mutumbo in 1990? That's how I read your post.

That was a nice Georgetown team, but they weren't in the same zip code as the '85 team.

[Steve A]

I was on the Georgetown message boards seeing what they thought and one comment struck me as kind of a summary of the general tone of their fanbase:

"We were supposed to be one of the standard-bearers of the new Big East, and instead we're hoping to be a trap game for Xavier.

Makes me sad..."

I can certainly understand how they feel.

http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/thread/29290/georgetown-xavier-19-16-discussion?page=2

[xufan2434]

I was on the Georgetown message boards seeing what they thought and one comment struck me as kind of a summary of the general tone of their fanbase:

"We were supposed to be one of the standard-bearers of the new Big East, and instead we're hoping to be a trap game for Xavier.

Makes me sad..."

I can certainly understand how they feel.

http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/thread/29290/georgetown-xavier-19-16-discussion?page=2

That made me sad just reading their whole thread. More defeated than angry. Can't say I blame em

[muskiefan82]

They seem very depressed on that board.

[LA Muskie]

I cant imagine the G'town fans aren't growing a little restless.......

I'd say more despondent than restless, actually.


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[bobbiemcgee]

Georgetowns plane just left DC.

...and no T's on Jalen yet. Woohoo!

[LA Muskie]

I'm just waiting for Jalen to find a way to get T'd up from the bench.

[XUFan09]

I was on the Georgetown message boards seeing what they thought and one comment struck me as kind of a summary of the general tone of their fanbase:

"We were supposed to be one of the standard-bearers of the new Big East, and instead we're hoping to be a trap game for Xavier.

Makes me sad..."

I can certainly understand how they feel.

http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/thread/29290/georgetown-xavier-19-16-discussion?page=2
Way too many of them have the same avatar.

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[xu82]

Way too many of them have the same avatar.

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Holy carp! No kidding! Makes me feel bad, but with Waggy gone, it's not too overdone. (But even that similarity was....uncomfortable.)

[xeus]

Makes me feel bad, but with Waggy gone, it's not too overdone.

Waggy's not gone. His ban is over.

[bjf123]

I'm just waiting for Jalen to find a way to get T'd up from the bench.

The season's not over! 😀


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[kellernr]

X by 15 tonight.

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[GIMMFD]

This may have been mentioned, but I don't want to scroll through, what's with the weird 8:30 tip?

[xeus]

I'm just waiting for Jalen to find a way to get T'd up from the bench.

Jalen, that is NOT a challenge.

[xu82]

Waggy's not gone. His ban is over.

Full disclosure: I'm too lazy to change right now, and I'm glad we are not identical like the GTown G. So I can live with it.

[LA Muskie]

This may have been mentioned, but I don't want to scroll through, what's with the weird 8:30 tip?
TV Double-header. Butler @ Providence on right now.

[Wheelhouse]

This Butler/Providence game is going down to the wire.

[xu82]

This Butler/Providence game is going down to the wire.

Serious barn burner. Hope this helps ratings, then the next game is a blow out!

In a good way.

[Wheelhouse]

Serious barn burner. Hope this helps ratings, then the next game is a blow out!

In a good way.

I'm just hoping for no overtime.

[xu82]

I'm just hoping for no overtime.

Holy crap! They tried to piss you (us) off!

[X-band '01]

Wouldn't have mattered; tip has been pushed to 8:45.

[Masterofreality]

Ed Corbett is working this game! Superb!

[Xville]

Mack has definitely sent a message to Reynolds the past two games. Will the light come on this year?

[sgarcia]

Mack has definitely sent a message to Reynolds the past two games. Will the light come on this year?

If it comes on it will be short term. I gave Mack a lot of credit for trying everything possible though.

[letskeepitreal]

Jalen in. Message sent I guess

[Muskeagle]

That was a strange 2-0 war....on two G-town freebies.

[Muskeagle]

Nice take Trevon!!

[Xville]

Gtown came to play tonight. Our guys better wake up.

[Xville]

Nice Omara! Kid is really showing some promise.

[D-West & PO-Z]

O'Mara!!!

No one's taking his minutes away!

[XMuskieFTW]

Georgetown probably playing their best basketball so far this season tonight. Real test for the guys.

[kellernr]

If O'Mara keeps playing like that the rest of the game he deserves a start soon. Reynolds has moved to 3rd string center. What happened to him?

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[letskeepitreal]

Looks like O'mara came to play too. I'm liking this game. Yeah GTown came to play so we'd better bring it.

[XfansinKy]

O'mara is a man amongst little children! Don't hurt em big fella!

[sgarcia]

Gtown came to play tonight. Our guys better wake up.

They've come to play against all top 10 teams they've played this year. Gotta play well all game to beat them.

[Jesuit4Life]

https://twitter.com/FS1/status/689632838363152385

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[Muskeagle]

JP must be really annoying! His OWN guys are clearing him out with elbows to the head now!

Anyone else see Farr with the devastating shove to the head?

[Wheelhouse]

We need to get our inside game going on offense. We're just hucking up jump shots.

[Wheelhouse]

Oh no, Reynolds shot the three. They baited him into that one.

[kellernr]

Jalen needs to ride the bench for a while.

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[Xville]

Well that half sucked. Defense needs to be better, and we need to get the ball inside more.

[xubrew]

It's my opinion that we need to have a better second half.

[Wheelhouse]

Well, that wasn't a very good half. Neither the 1-3-1 or the hedge are working tonight. With that said, I fully expect us to come out and blitz them in the 2nd half.

[kellernr]

We are leaving the corner 3 open every time. The guards need to stop collapsing and let our bigs go 1 on 1. I'd rather give up a contested 2 over an open 3.

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[Xville]

As long as Campbell doesn't have another 17 in the second half, we should be ok but that was disappointing.

[Masterofreality]

Campbell averages 4ppg. He averages 33% from 3. He has 17 on 5-6 on 3 tonight.

[X Factor]

JP must be really annoying! His OWN guys are clearing him out with elbows to the head now!

Anyone else see Farr with the devastating shove to the head?

Haha...I saw that. Sent JP flying.

[xavierj]

Jalen needs to ride the bench for a while.

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Bad shot aside i disagree. Chris is playing head games with him but need to let him play.

[Xville]

I don't like how many open threes we give up. Supposedly it was part of the game plan against marquette but we do it a lot.

[nasdadjr]

Campbell averages 4ppg. He averages 33% from 3. He has 17 on 5-6 on 3 tonight.

It happens. Oh well The cream will rise to the top this second half. Only thing is I hope u didn't lay the 13

[X Factor]

Probably our worst half of defense all year. Allowing a 4 ppg scorer to drop 17 in the first half is ridiculous.

[Masterofreality]

We seemed to play a lot of funky lineups in the first half too. There were times where I wondered who was going to score....and we didn't.

[kellernr]

Well, that wasn't a very good half. Neither the 1-3-1 or the hedge are working tonight. With that said, I fully expect us to come out and blitz them in the 2nd half.
I hope so. Would be great for the whole team to show up in the 2nd half. Abel has 3 pts in the last 3 games. Reynolds has been non existent the last few games and now farr is dropping everything passed to him.


Also, where did macura go? He's been mostly invisible the past few games too.

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[kellernr]

Bad shot aside i disagree. Chris is playing head games with him but need to let him play.
He let the nba hype go to his head. It's sad when you have soo much potential but are being out played by farr and o'mara.

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[KabeX]

Hopefully halftime cools Campbell off. Don't like 1-3-1 against this team. Sticky man2man is best. And we might want to make a few layups and perhaps shoot a little better than 34%. Just my $.02

[nasdadjr]

The only thing I don't like is role changes. I hope Farr never starts again. Why change what has been successful? I'm not worried at all about this one but I want our old starters with old rotations back real quick.

[Masterofreality]

Jalen needs to wake the F up. Otherwise we need better shot selection. Too many screwy shots thrown up by the wrong guys.

[nasdadjr]

We seemed to play a lot of funky lineups in the first half too. There were times where I wondered who was going to score....and we didn't.

I was not a fan of the Omara gates Austin Abel macura lineup

[nasdadjr]

But I'll say this... At 10:45 we will be 17-1

[Masterofreality]

I was not a fan of the Omara gates Austin Abel macura lineup

Main one I was referring to.

[nasdadjr]

But I'll say this... At 10:45 we will be 17-1

But if u layed 13 u better pay up lol

[kellernr]

Main one I was referring to.
Ya. That's the kind of line up you test out against a st. Johns or a depaul. Not georgetown

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[xavierj]

He let the nba hype go to his head. It's sad when you have soo much potential but are being out played by farr and o'mara.

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His 40 per game totals is nearly 20 and 14. Let him play.

[kellernr]

Abel is built like a linebacker but refuses to go strong to the hole. He looks like he's going to slam it but then tries an up and under and misses another layup

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[Xville]

We seem to be just a bit off so far tonight..getting beat on 50-50 balls, not handling the ball well, questionable shot selection. Plenty of time to turn it around.

[paulxu]

This trap game crap is for the birds.
Wake up X.

[Xville]

What the hell is tre doing taking that shot? Ugh

[D-West & PO-Z]

Man we are really bad on D right now.

[D-West & PO-Z]

What the hell is tre doing taking that shot? Ugh

He has been taking and making that all year?

[RoseyMuskie]

I don't mind the Tre pull up jumper when it's open. I do mind it when there's a hand in his face.

[Xville]

He has been taking and making that all year?

Yes and no...that one was way early in the shot clock and not in the flow of the game.

[xavierj]

Who said change it up and start Farr? Yikes. Why change what is working. Hope the head games works out. I guess trust the coach.

[RoseyMuskie]

He has been taking and making that all year?

I think it's fair to say the shot he just took was contested to a higher degree than others.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Just like that... 5-0 run gets it to 5 point deficit at the under 16. In spite of everything, I like our chances.

[Xville]

OK nevermind about tre's shot...I looked again and it was toward the end of the shot clock...my apologies tre

[letskeepitreal]

We'd better get it together

[xavierj]

Body language doesn't look good...

[Caveat]

Just doesn't feel like it's X's night. Every spurt gets answered with a big make going the other way.

[Xville]

Who said change it up and start Farr? Yikes. Why change what is working. Hope the head games works out. I guess trust the coach.

I don't think it's head games. It's been noted by mack if u don't bring it everyday in practice, you aren't assured of starting and or playing. Would you rather have mack continue to reward bad behavior? Plus, farr's play the past few games has earned him a start.

[KabeX]

Nothing looks good

[Xavier]

Didn't love sitting miles out of that time out but realized he'd prolly be coming right back after under 16. D needs to step up but gtown just passing really well

[kellernr]

I don't think it's head games. It's been noted by mack of u don't bring it everyday in practice, you aren't sure of starting and or playing. Would you rather have mack continue to reward bad behavior? Plus, farr's play the past few games has earned him a start.
So basically Reynolds and Macura have been slacking in practice?

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[xavierj]

I don't think it's head games. It's been noted by mack of u don't bring it everyday in practice, you aren't sure of starting and or playing. Would you rather have mack continue to reward bad behavior? Plus, farr's play the past few games has earned him a start.

They have lost 1 game... Whatever they were doing was working.

[RoseyMuskie]

If X makes its FTs, it comes back and wins.

[Xville]

So basically Reynolds and Macura have been slacking in practice?

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Don't know about macura but mack has made mention about jalen.

Bluiett seems to be really off tonight.

[Wheelhouse]

Reynolds is obviously in the dog house. I can't think of another explanation for his lack of PT.

[Blue Blooded-05]

They are getting to the basket at will tonight

[Xville]

In a span of a minute, the refs made I think 5 bad calls...impressive.

[Xville]

How is that a foul? Geezus that's terrible.

[Wheelhouse]

GT is crashing the boards better than any team we've played so far this year.

[kellernr]

These refs are fucking garbage

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[Xville]

GT is crashing the boards better than any team we've played so far this year.

Yep. They are one of the few teams we have played with the ability to do that against us.

[D-West & PO-Z]

LEts go, here comes our run!

[nasdadjr]

Ahh bs screw tv let's keep the momentum going lol

[Roach]

I'm not one to complain about officiating, but if I were, this is one game I would complain about ...

[Xville]

Alright back down to 5 and we have the ball...starting to.feel better about this one.

[Blue Blooded-05]

In spite of everything, it's a 5 point deficit with the ball at the under 12. I like our chances

[RoseyMuskie]

Makeup Foul Bias in full effect!

[nasdadjr]

I want tv to not make money and not show commercials so we can keep the run going is that allowed haha

[Xville]

Tre has woken up!!!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

No excuse for us to be outrebounded. We are first they are 8th in the conference.

[KabeX]

Can we please ditch the 1-3-1

[Xville]

131 not working tonight. Bad defense.

[Wheelhouse]

That was a hell of response by GT. They are playing lights out tonight.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah wonder why that hasnt been done yet? Who are we afraid of in the man?

[Wheelhouse]

131 not working tonight. Bad defense.

Agreed. It was bad in the 1st half, not sure why we'd go back to it.

[mistabeecee41]

They're shooting lights out and we're playing like a team that came into this game thinking we're top 5 and it will be a cakewalk. Bad combination.

[D-West & PO-Z]

DSR is the best player on the court.

[Xville]

Dsr cold blooded tonight

[D-West & PO-Z]

DSR making Sumner look like a frosh.

[KabeX]

Not our night. Let's see what they got for the last 8

[sgarcia]

They're shooting lights out and we're playing like a team that came into this game thinking we're top 5 and it will be a cakewalk. Bad combination.

Gtown played all top 10 teams very tough this year. Our man 2 man isn't great and lots of teams now playing 1-3-1 and it's now being picked apart. Corner 3's are the death of that zone.

[RoseyMuskie]

Not X's night. Georgetown shooting well above the mean, I believe X is below. It happens.

[Xville]

This team has had a few too many halves or games where they have kind of slept walked thru to a win...wake, st johns come to mind. Maybe a loss in one of these wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

[bjf123]

Can't win if we let them keep shooting 50+%. Need to step up the D.


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[XMuskieFTW]

Still time left. Need stops/fast breaks. Ugh this is rough.

[paulxu]

I am not happy. This isn't out of reach, but it's getting there.

Must lock down on D.

[Roach]

Georgetown has made its last four 3-point attempts. Grumble grumble ...

[Wheelhouse]

I don't trust Gates in this spot.

[Xville]

I think myles might have to put the rest of the team on his back.

Ugh and as I say that he misses another ft

[xavierj]

That was weak by Farr

[kellernr]

Farr goes from beast mode to least mode.

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[Xville]

Farr has had an absolutely terrible game.

[Wheelhouse]

We've been just a bit off all night. I'll just chalk it up to one of those games.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I guess I know why we kept in zone, we cant guard DSR.

[xavierj]

We've been just a bit off all night. I'll just chalk it up to one of those games.

I blame lineup change...

[KabeX]

Rebound the GD basketball!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Anyone have any explanation for us getting worked on the boards by the number 8 rebounding team in BE? Just one of those nights?

[kellernr]

The gtown guy rebounding Cameron's missed shot was holding Jps arms blocking him but they don't call it. X gets called for every rebound attempt

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[Xville]

Our defense could not be any worse tonight.

I don't see us coming back tonight...hope I'm wrong, but if I'm not I hope this serves as a painful reminder that nothing comes easy.

Our interior was extremely weak tonight.

[kellernr]

Anyone have any explanation for us getting worked on the boards by the number 8 rebounding team in BE? Just one of those nights?
Didn't come out prepared. Thought they could coast through to victory

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[Xville]

Anyone have any explanation for us getting worked on the boards by the number 8 rebounding team in BE? Just one of those nights?

Rebounding is 90 percent effort.

[Roach]

Anyone have any explanation for us getting worked on the boards by the number 8 rebounding team in BE? Just one of those nights?

No clue. We can't buy a rebound. It's maddening.

[kellernr]

No one on our team seems to able able to hold on to a rebound.

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[RoseyMuskie]

Too many non-contributors and poor performances.

Farr and Reynolds were worked hard by Govan, Bluiett heated up too late, Abell didn't do anything after the opening three, and so on.

The strength of this team has been its depth - no depth tonight.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sumner looks like a freshman tonight. Big time. Have to give Trevon a touch there, stupid shot.

[Xville]

Ugh sumner.....freshman mistake. We are getting some home cooking against us tonight which is odd.

[Xavier]

This one hurts. Really wanted a chance to be number 1 in the country if things fell out way next couple weeks.

[Wheelhouse]

Welp, that call on Bluiett is the worst call of the season.

[kellernr]

Govan throws a forearm into tre's face but they call the foul on tre.

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[mistabeecee41]

Sumner looks like a freshman tonight. Big time. Have to give Trevon a touch there, stupid shot.

Myles was wide open in the corner. I don't know how he didn't see him.

[kellernr]

Too many non-contributors and poor performances.

Farr and Reynolds were worked hard by Govan, Bluiett heated up too late, Abell didn't do anything after the opening three, and so on.

The strength of this team has been its depth - no depth tonight.
Abel hasn't done anything in weeks. He is just above Austin for being an offensive threat.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

Myles was wide open in the corner. I don't know how he didn't see him.

Why he would think the best play would be him taking a shot there is beyond me.

[KabeX]

This is one frustrating assed game. They better bring Sat. No way we can lose 2 in a row at HOME

[paulxu]

Unless I'm just not seeing Tre grabbing his balls or something...that was some really bad officiating.

[Blue Blobs Bro]

Fuck these refs

[Wheelhouse]

DSR is just deadly. Really impressive player.

[Roach]

Unless I'm just not seeing Tre grabbing his balls or something...that was some really bad officiating.

That was, indeed, a terrible call.

[BMoreX]

Thats the worst call Ive ever seen.

[Xville]

I hope this serves as an extreme wake up call. This is unacceptable at home.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sumner has no business taking the last 2 shots for XU.

[kellernr]

Reynolds is soo far out of position on every rebound opportunity.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

I hope this serves as an extreme wake up call. This is unacceptable at home.

Yeah I mean it happens but cant lose these games at home if you want the BE championship.

[Xavier]

Sumner has no business taking the last 2 shots for XU.

The driving layup I agree. After passing around perimeter for awhile and he gets the first open 3 I'm ok with

[kellernr]

That was, indeed, a terrible call.
Last 2 times down the court Govan has gone high with a forearm. Neither was called.

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[paulxu]

We should just get Myles a 3 pt shot every time down the floor.

[Xavier]

Yeah I mean it happens but cant lose these games at home if you want the BE championship.

Agreed. I know a game like this happens but I also want to win BE and thought we could've been a 1 seed. These games can't happen if that's the goal

[Xville]

Come on guys!

[Xavier]

Didn't need a 3 there

[kellernr]

Agreed. I know a game like this happens but I also want to win BE and thought we could've been a 1 seed. These games can't happen if that's the goal
Plenty of games left to earn a 1 seed. A lot of top teams going down.

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[Xville]

Ugh don't like the shot there by tre...would have been great if it went in but needed to.go to the rack in my opinion.

[KabeX]

How many freakin layups have we missed tonight?

[Xville]

Aaaaargh this game is so freaking frustrating.

[kellernr]

We need Reynolds to fucking show up soon. He's regressed soo much this year.

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[Xville]

Wake up call. Can't bring a C effort against a big East team not named Depaul or st johns.

By the numbers it's not a bad loss but in my opinion it is...not acceptable to lose at home with this much talent.

[letskeepitreal]

We had our looks late. Just wasn't our night. We just got out toughed

[KabeX]

Top 5 was nice while it lasted. Honestly I don't think we're quite there yet (obviously). I think we all would take 16 - 2 at this point. But man that sucked a big bag of donkey dicks.

[Jesuit4Life]

Refocus for Saturday.

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[Blue Blobs Bro]

Fuck Georgetown and their shitty ooc schedule. Fuck that game was ass to watch.

[Masterofreality]

We got bullied up, and let then play their game too long. Just a poor game from us, and GTowns best game of the year.

[Xville]

1,3, and 5 all go down in 24 hours. Yikes.

[KabeX]

Feb. 20. Noon.

[paulxu]

Shouldn't lose at home, but did.
I suspect somebody, somewhere will say this is good for the BE, maybe get more teams in dance.
I say UGH.

[xu82]

We were -5 on the boards. Ugh

[RoseyMuskie]

Myles missing two FTs (otherwise had a nice game), and Hayes w/ the FT bank. A microcosm of the night.

[paulxu]

Also, our coach shook hands with all the people from the other team.

[Masterofreality]

Only guys I can say even close to showed up tonight was Trevon and Myles. Big guys, except for possibly O'Mara were awful.

[Lloyd Braun]

Most frustrating will be when GT loses their next 4 games...

[Xville]

So what do we drop to..10, 11? That was really disappointing.

[xavierj]

We need Reynolds to fucking show up soon. He's regressed soo much this year.

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Well he had 9 and 4 and played less than a half. Maybe let him play. Farr started and was less than impressive.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Rough to watch.

My observations:
DSR best player on court today, totally outplayed Ed.
Defense was bad, 1-3-1, man to man, didnt matter, all bad.
How do we get outrebounded like that against a bad rebounding team?
Ed with some bad deisions, poor D, poor O tonight
Nothing from Remy again
JP has sort of disappeared, no?
Farr didnt have it tonight.

Shit happens but cant lose this game at home. Can't let it happen. Road losses are going to happen but losing at home to a team not named Villanova cant happen if we want to win this league.

[Emp]

We got bullied up, and let then play their game too long. Just a poor game from us, and GTowns best game of the year.

Reality. Thompson had a game plan. Sumner totally out of his game. We're in a dog fight on this league.

[KabeX]

So what do we drop to..10, 11? That was really disappointing.

I wouldn't want to speculate on that until AFTER Saturday. I don't even want to consider how far we could drop

[D-West & PO-Z]

3 way tie for 3rd in league. Ugh.

[Caveat]

That sucked. Every part of that was awful to watch.

That was a bad team we just lost to.

[KabeX]

Was hoping for a Victory beer. Screw it. Time for a frustration filled cold glass of FuckDSR&ThePOSCoachthatisJTIIINottoMentionThePatheticExcus eForOfficiating Lagunitas IPA.

Back in a few ...

[Xville]

3 way tie for 3rd in league. Ugh.

Ugh...bad bad bad loss. Really hope this is a wake up call. Seton hall and then at providence looms large.

[Jesuit4Life]

Not at all why we lost but this was terrible.
https://twitter.com/MuskieMusings/status/689653247678742528

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[Caveat]

I wouldn't want to speculate on that until AFTER Saturday. I don't even want to consider how far we could drop

Probably 12-13. Time to make it up, but that's a damaging loss.

[xu82]

That sucked. Every part of that was awful to watch.

That was a bad team we just lost to.

Did you see how close they were to very good teams in losses. They have a lot of potential, but also issues.

[kellernr]

Well he had 9 and 4 and played less than a half. Maybe let him play. Farr started and was less than impressive.
I know he's good. He just needs to channel his anger. He gets beat for rebound or misses a shot and automatically starts whining to the ref. He needs to man up and dominate Iike he is capable of doing. He should be averaging 15 and 8 a night.

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[Caveat]

Did you see how close they were to very good teams in losses. They have a lot of potential, but also issues.

Lost to Radford. At home.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Probably 12-13. Time to make it up, but that's a damaging loss.

No way not if we win Saturday.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Lost to Radford. At home.

A team with some bad losses but not a bad team.

[xavierj]

I know he's good. He just needs to channel his anger. He gets beat for rebound or misses a shot and automatically starts whining to the ref. He needs to man up and dominate Iike he is capable of doing. He should be averaging 15 and 8 a night.

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But he needs to play 28 to 30 minutes a night. He has calmed down and really hasnt been in foul trouble. Chris needs to just let him play. Take the good with the bad.

[KabeX]

Did you see how close they were to very good teams in losses. They have a lot of potential, but also issues.

I'm pissed too but c'mon man. They're not a bad team. In fact I think they're pretty damn good since they've started to figure things out. They shot 51% and 40% from 3 tonight. Part of that was our defense but they shot it well tonight. It happens. Kick ass Saturday and all is (somewhat) forgiven.

[xu82]

Lost to Radford. At home.

Times change. Tonight was lucky for them with crazy shooting and banked FT's, but looking at a single point to define them is senseless. Obviously.

[KabeX]

Did you see how close they were to very good teams in losses. They have a lot of potential, but also issues.
Sorry, quoted the wrong post. Completely agree with you.

[paulxu]

Not at all why we lost but this was terrible.
https://twitter.com/MuskieMusings/status/689653247678742528

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Would someone, anyone explain how that is a foul on Trevon? Hello? Anyone?

[sirthought]

Painful. Physical game with a lot of tough play that I thought hurt Xavier.

- Sumner had no business playing that many minutes with all the poor shots he was taking. Davis may have kept his composure more. I think Mack needed to reign things in a bit more in the second half.

- Our inside guys got schooled overall. They had a lot of blocks, rebounds, and altered shots. Farr just out of control on offense. Reynolds played better, but he was often not in good position to take advantage. I did think we weren't working hard enough to get the ball deep down low. I liked the effort from O'Mara, but he needs to improve his footwork to get in better scoring position. (He's going to be a beast in the near future.)

That said, we shot the ball nearly as well as GT from outside. If a couple plays happened differently this would have been a much closer game.

Surprised that Davis missed two free throws! Little stuff like the three missed FTs add up when you're this close.

[XMuskieFTW]

We got outplayed, they made some ridiculous shots, we struggled on the boards, offense was a bit flat, rotational defense was rough. THE SKY IS NOT FALLING. If anyone here expected us to skate through the games against teams 5-8 in this league, then I want whatever you are having. We are 16-2 with the most talented team in school history in a very, very deep conference. Yea, tonight sucked, but it's one game. I'm ready for Saturday.

[xu82]

Sorry, quoted the wrong post. Completely agree with you.
No worries, just shows you are among the sensible!

[KabeX]

We got outplayed, they made some ridiculous shots, we struggled on the boards, offense was a bit flat, rotational defense was rough. THE SKY IS NOT FALLING. If anyone here expected us to skate through the games against teams 5-8 in this league, then I want whatever you are having. We are 16-2 with the most talented team in school history in a very, very deep conference. Yea, tonight sucked, but it's one game. I'm ready for Saturday.

Pretty much this.

[Muncie]

Most obvious take away was at point guard , we saw a senior school a freshman .

[GoMuskies]

Just finished watching on DVR, and that pretty much sucked. Oh, well. Georgetown was just by far the better squad tonight.

[IM4X]

I blame lineup change...

Yeah... Players we're not bringing it much of the night but I too was a bit frustrated the way Mack changed up lineups that started to click.

There was a lineup where both Myles and Farr were in (Myles hit a 3 and then Farr made a tough bucket) as the team went on a little run and then a TO was called. Mack sat them both and GT went on a run.

Not like this loss is all on him, but Mack does need to take some ownership.

[Masterofreality]

A team with some bad losses but not a bad team.

They are not a bad team, and they were a very good team tonight. No nights off in this league.

Only criticism is that I thought that we had some screwy lineups out there at times. I really don't think you can have a time when you have Myles, Trevon AND Ed all off the floor at the same time. Who is going to score? but we had that situation at times.

[Caveat]

A team with some bad losses but not a bad team.

A team with bad losses is usually a bad team. That's like the textbook definition.

This isn't the end of the world, but it's gonna result in a Smackdown in the polls. There's time to make up for it, but the road to a 1/2 seed just got exponentially more difficult.

[KabeX]

Yeah... Players we're not bringing it much of the night but I too was a bit frustrated the way Mack changed up lineups that started to click.

There was a lineup where both Myles and Farr were in (Myles hit a 3 and then Farr made a tough bucket) as the team went on a little run and then a TO was called. Mack sat them both and GT went on a run.

Not like this loss is all on him, but Mack does need to take some ownership.

Definitely a Team Loss tonight. Coaching staff will learn from this as well.

[Xville]

We got outplayed, they made some ridiculous shots, we struggled on the boards, offense was a bit flat, rotational defense was rough. THE SKY IS NOT FALLING. If anyone here expected us to skate through the games against teams 5-8 in this league, then I want whatever you are having. We are 16-2 with the most talented team in school history in a very, very deep conference. Yea, tonight sucked, but it's one game. I'm ready for Saturday.

I agree except that teams 5-8 we shouldn't lose to at home. On the road that's understandable but losing at home to these teams is unacceptable for the amount of talent that is on this team...have to hold serve at home...it's too damn hard to win the road against average to good teams.

[xu82]

This may be good for us in the long run. We don't need big heads. We need focus and effort, especially on defense. Nearly undefeated is more glorifying but less motivating,

[GoMuskies]

They are not a bad team, and they were a very good team tonight. No nights off in this league.

They played really well tonight. By far better than us. But a team is defined by their body of work, and their body of work is shitty.

It's a lot like the Temple teams you loved to complain about, honestly, but Temple was losing to better teams than Radford and UNC Branch Campus.

[Masterofreality]

By the way, that game moved GTown up to 72 RPI. They still have a game with UCon coming up on Saturday that is a very pivotal one.

And, yeah. You can't lose to Radford and North Carolina Asheville at Wilmington of Charlotte

[sirthought]

Yeah, they shot incredibly well, but no excuse to lose to this team at home.

Oh well, gotta look forward and see what you can learn from it.

[RoseyMuskie]

I'm tired of this "shouldn't lose at home talk." Statistically, you're right. But it's not like the team lost to DePaul, or LaSalle, or Fordham.

It's basketball. Xavier is not entitled to victory simply because they are playing at home.

Xavier played an average game, Georgetown played a great game. Again, it happens. And the win percentage of that game was likely in the 85-90% range - I think it's safe to say that was the 10% given the shooting percentages.

The silver lining is that X shot it's worst percentage of the season, yet was still within two possessions at crunch time.

[paulxu]

Maybe we're the super bowl for teams 5-8. But we owned Georgetown last year, and this year I think our team is much, much better.
Losing to Nova at home is one thing. This is a game we should have played a lot better than we did. Leaves me confused.

[KabeX]

They played really well tonight. By far better than us. But a team is defined by their body of work, and their body of work is shitty.

It's a lot like the Temple teams you loved to complain about, honestly, but Temple was losing to better teams than Radford and UNC Branch Campus.

Body of work is not complete yet for any team. Syracuse (back when they were actually relevant) routinely lost to Little Sisters of the Poor early. Hell, we were 10 - 9 in '04 before THE RUN. I saw a very good team tonight execute their offense and take advantage of our miscues. They could shit the bed at UConn and perhaps the rest of the season (especially on Feb. 20). We don't know yet. We also don't know how we'll finish. It's fun to prognosticate though, especially when we look to be top 10 worthy. We'll see. I'm going to try and enjoy the ride and hopefully my wife won't divorce me.

[xukeith]

They are not a bad team, and they were a very good team tonight. No nights off in this league.

Only criticism is that I thought that we had some screwy lineups out there at times. I really don't think you can have a time when you have Myles, Trevon AND Ed all off the floor at the same time. Who is going to score? but we had that situation at times.

Agree. There was a point in first half where X had 4 bench players all in playing at the same time. I question that unless MAck was trying to send a message to his first 5. Those 4 bench players together cannot play against a Princeton offense/defense style.

[IM4X]

Definitely a Team Loss tonight. Coaching staff will learn from this as well.

Yes. That was far from a great coaching or team effort. On the other hand, It was about as good as I've seen Georgetown look all season... Especially from the 3.

[LA Muskie]

That was not fun. And that's all I have to say about that. (For now.)


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[D-West & PO-Z]

A team with bad losses is usually a bad team. That's like the textbook definition.

This isn't the end of the world, but it's gonna result in a Smackdown in the polls. There's time to make up for it, but the road to a 1/2 seed just got exponentially more difficult.

I think you are overestimating how bad a loss this was. It was mostly bad because it was at home, it wont be looked at as a bad loss numbers wise come selection time.

[xu82]

And that's all I have to say about that. (For now.)


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Thank you, Mr. Gump.

[drudy23]

Not a terrible loss...GTown is in 2nd place in our league. They're a solid team with a really good leader.

We should have won, but there will likely be other games we should win that we'll lose. It's fine, and it's happened to most teams in the top 20.

[mohr5150]

Tre Campbell had 21 points. His next highest this season was 12, which was the only other game he had in double figures. He's been shut out five times this season. This was our Big Delhi of this season. It was a perfect storm of bad play by several guys on X with a miraculous game for one of their guys and some horrible, horrible refs. I predict a vastly different game at Georgetown.

[GoMuskies]

Refs seemed fine on TV.

[drudy23]

In the second half, I looked up with about 15 minutes remaining and GT had 6 fouls to our 1...I thought "that's a good way for us to get back in this a we'll be shooting free throws for the rest of the half".

After that, it was a twilight zone of calls where about 10 calls in a row went their way. It was really weird.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah I mean there were a couple questionable calls but it that doesnt even make the top 5 of reasons we lost.

Poor D
Poor rebounding
Poor PG play
Poor inside game
Georgetown had the best player on the court (DSR)

Biggest reasons we lost.

[Cheesehead]

Just not X's night tonight. Seemed flat and got punched in the mouth by a Very physical G-town team. I also thought the lineups were strange and a little too much subbing at times. As my wife said, (she played at X), it's hard to get in the flow as a players with that many subs and combinations.

Georgetown hasn't played that well all season. A guy averaging 4 points a game looks like Curry tonight. It happens. I didn't like getting beat in the boards and not getting 50/50 balls. X seemed out of it tonight.

I actually blame the pregame stuff, as only one fire tower was working tonight. X was cursed from the get go.

[drudy23]

And for those on Ed, that's the difference between a Sr and a Freshman...really tough assignment for Ed tonight, and it shows how experience can play a big factor.