I'm Tired

[MuskiePimp23]

Of hearing this disrespect towards Xavier and The Big East. I just heard Andy Katz say "the Big East is just as balanced as the Big XII, but lacks the National Title contenders outside of Villanova."

Jon Rothstein tweeted that Xavier is a 2nd Weekend NCAA Tourney team. (We were a 2nd Weekend NCAA Tournament Team last year you idiot and we are a hell of a lot better this year).

Wojo knows with what he said about our team today. It is funny because I ask myself WHAT THE HELL ARE PEOPLE LOOKING AT? I said this before the season. This Xavier team has it all. We are continuing to win. When I listen to potential #1 seeds, I hear your typical names.

Kansas, Oklahoma, Maryland, UNC, Michigan State, Duke, Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia, Miami (FL), blah, blah blah...Villanova and then Xavier is pretty good too. Can the media show any more love to the Big XII? I mean it is a good conference, but get off their nuts. Kansas has looked good at times, but they just beat a juggernaut, TCU team at home today by 7. They barely beat freaking Harvard at home. I watch Top 10 teams go down consistently on the road and some at home in major fashion (I am looking at you Michigan St) in the last few weeks. Yet Xavier will continue to get better now that Sumner is back and our rotation has lengthened.

Now some people have said some things as Jay Bias said we are "Top 5 good" with Sumner back. Jerry Palm had us as a 1 seed in his bracket. Joey brackets on ESPN had us as a 2 and Maryland as a 1. Who the hell has Maryland beaten? They lost at Michigan and they did not have Caris Levert.

To hell with all this $hit and being Top 5 or Top 10 or Top 15 good, yada, yada, yada. I want to be Top 1 good as in WIN THE WHOLE DAMN THING! I want to hear NATIONAL TITLE CONTENDER/FINAL FOUR GOOD. Most in the media have no problem talking about the teams I mentioned above as possibilities, but dismiss or do not even mention Xavier.

I am sick and tired of hearing about some of these "Blue Bloods" and the ones that ESPN is pushing because they have their tv rights. The only thing left to do in my opinion to shut these idiots up is Win it All! Screw the media and the bias that is out there. The Big East is a damn good league and we need to show that this year in March and April. Our next ride is Tuesday night!

One game at a time, but this motivates the hell out of me to continue thrashing opponents in this league and then come tournament time.

TUESDAY NIGHT WE RIDE!

[xubrew]

I don't know what else to tell you other than to stop listening to the media. As much basketball as I watch, I never read any articles or listen to any commentators. Hence, I'm never annoyed by what they say. They really don't matter. I value my own opinions. I really don't need to listen to Andy Katz's.

[Xville]

Look a bunch of us including myself complained about the national media last year when they said the big East was overrated before the tourney started. Well, it turns out those guys were right. So I'm done jumping all over the national media's opinion...not saying I agree with them, but not going to get all worked up about it. Let's just wait until march and see what happens. Lastly, I'd believe that nova doesn't last the first week based on recent history more than being a title contender.

[xudash]

We simply need to shut them up by winning it all. That won't be simple; it never is for any program. But if we want to be in the conversation in that manner, we have to break through, and breaking through with a NC would be defining.

[Strange Brew]

Of hearing this disrespect towards Xavier and The Big East. I just heard Andy Katz say "the Big East is just as balanced as the Big XII, but lacks the National Title contenders outside of Villanova."

Jon Rothstein tweeted that Xavier is a 2nd Weekend NCAA Tourney team. (We were a 2nd Weekend NCAA Tournament Team last year you idiot and we are a hell of a lot better this year).

Wojo knows with what he said about our team today. It is funny because I ask myself WHAT THE HELL ARE PEOPLE LOOKING AT? I said this before the season. This Xavier team has it all. We are continuing to win. When I listen to potential #1 seeds, I hear your typical names.

Kansas, Oklahoma, Maryland, UNC, Michigan State, Duke, Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia, Miami (FL), blah, blah blah...Villanova and then Xavier is pretty good too. Can the media show any more love to the Big XII? I mean it is a good conference, but get off their nuts. Kansas has looked good at times, but they just beat a juggernaut, TCU team at home today by 7. They barely beat freaking Harvard at home. I watch Top 10 teams go down consistently on the road and some at home in major fashion (I am looking at you Michigan St) in the last few weeks. Yet Xavier will continue to get better now that Sumner is back and our rotation has lengthened.

Now some people have said some things as Jay Bias said we are "Top 5 good" with Sumner back. Jerry Palm had us as a 1 seed in his bracket. Joey brackets on ESPN had us as a 2 and Maryland as a 1. Who the hell has Maryland beaten? They lost at Michigan and they did not have Caris Levert.

To hell with all this $hit and being Top 5 or Top 10 or Top 15 good, yada, yada, yada. I want to be Top 1 good as in WIN THE WHOLE DAMN THING! I want to hear NATIONAL TITLE CONTENDER/FINAL FOUR GOOD. Most in the media have no problem talking about the teams I mentioned above as possibilities, but dismiss or do not even mention Xavier.

I am sick and tired of hearing about some of these "Blue Bloods" and the ones that ESPN is pushing because they have their tv rights. The only thing left to do in my opinion to shut these idiots up is Win it All! Screw the media and the bias that is out there. The Big East is a damn good league and we need to show that this year in March and April. Our next ride is Tuesday night!

One game at a time, but this motivates the hell out of me to continue thrashing opponents in this league and then come tournament time.

TUESDAY NIGHT WE RIDE!

:). Delicious roadkill today. Beat G'town.

[xubrew]

A typical media person will say that the Big East is not a major conference. The next day, they'll talk about how underrated the Big East is. I can respect opinions that I don't agree with at all so long as they are well formed and well argued. The media never does that. At least very few of them do. Most of them want to look smart after the fact. If the Big East blows up the NCAA Tournament this year, they'll talk about how the league never got any respect and how they've liked it all along. That's what I really don't respect. I don't care that they say things I don't agree with. I care that they talk out of both sides of their mouths and because they want to look smart after the fact. I started ignoring them about eight years ago, and I don't enjoy the sport any less.

[vee4xu]

The calculus is pretty simple to me. X, or someone other than Villanova wins a national championship, then the narrative changes. Otherwise, take the advice of either not watching at all or not paying attention to the comments if you do watch.

[Backyard Champ]

Seriously? On the fringe of being ranked in the top 5 of the country and you're still upset that the media doesn't respect us?

Multiple ESPN personalities (Dickie V included) stating Xavier is the best team they've seen, and you're still saying the media, and ESPN don't respect Xavier?

Guess some people really really want to play the disrespect card. Wow.

[Chester Copperpot]

Of hearing this disrespect towards Xavier and The Big East. I just heard Andy Katz say "the Big East is just as balanced as the Big XII, but lacks the National Title contenders outside of Villanova."

Jon Rothstein tweeted that Xavier is a 2nd Weekend NCAA Tourney team. (We were a 2nd Weekend NCAA Tournament Team last year you idiot and we are a hell of a lot better this year).

Wojo knows with what he said about our team today. It is funny because I ask myself WHAT THE HELL ARE PEOPLE LOOKING AT? I said this before the season. This Xavier team has it all. We are continuing to win. When I listen to potential #1 seeds, I hear your typical names.

Kansas, Oklahoma, Maryland, UNC, Michigan State, Duke, Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia, Miami (FL), blah, blah blah...Villanova and then Xavier is pretty good too. Can the media show any more love to the Big XII? I mean it is a good conference, but get off their nuts. Kansas has looked good at times, but they just beat a juggernaut, TCU team at home today by 7. They barely beat freaking Harvard at home. I watch Top 10 teams go down consistently on the road and some at home in major fashion (I am looking at you Michigan St) in the last few weeks. Yet Xavier will continue to get better now that Sumner is back and our rotation has lengthened.

Now some people have said some things as Jay Bias said we are "Top 5 good" with Sumner back. Jerry Palm had us as a 1 seed in his bracket. Joey brackets on ESPN had us as a 2 and Maryland as a 1. Who the hell has Maryland beaten? They lost at Michigan and they did not have Caris Levert.

To hell with all this $hit and being Top 5 or Top 10 or Top 15 good, yada, yada, yada. I want to be Top 1 good as in WIN THE WHOLE DAMN THING! I want to hear NATIONAL TITLE CONTENDER/FINAL FOUR GOOD. Most in the media have no problem talking about the teams I mentioned above as possibilities, but dismiss or do not even mention Xavier.

I am sick and tired of hearing about some of these "Blue Bloods" and the ones that ESPN is pushing because they have their tv rights. The only thing left to do in my opinion to shut these idiots up is Win it All! Screw the media and the bias that is out there. The Big East is a damn good league and we need to show that this year in March and April. Our next ride is Tuesday night!

One game at a time, but this motivates the hell out of me to continue thrashing opponents in this league and then come tournament time.

TUESDAY NIGHT WE RIDE!

Relax bro. Do you really give a fu$k what Andy Katz thinks? Not the end of the world. The reality is that the new BE needs to prove itself in March. Fools will continue to take a dump on them until then.

[markchal]

Seriously? On the fringe of being ranked in the top 5 of the country and you're still upset that the media doesn't respect us?

Multiple ESPN personalities (Dickie V included) stating Xavier is the best team they've seen, and you're still saying the media, and ESPN don't respect Xavier?

Guess some people really really want to play the disrespect card. Wow.

Agree. Some people have to constantly have that chip on their shoulder. I've seen nothing but great things from a ton of outlets and plenty of 1-seed projections. What does everyone else need? We have no big time pro prospects and no preseason hype, both of which are necessary to really be on everyone's radar in a best-overall way.

[xavierj]

Can you imagine if Ed Sumner played for UK? Yikes...

[Masterofreality]

Only one thing to do:

#BustTheF-IngDoorDown!!!!!

[Drew's Crew]

Look, I don't think that the media disrespects us. I get annoyed by the average fan with big school bias (I literally had a friend call us "that mid major that always does well in March...), but it is what it is. We have been to zero Final Fours. We have no 5-star can't miss NBA prospects. The average fan doesn't even know who our coach is. This year and next year I think we take the program to another level, but until we do we cant be incredulous by people that don't expect us to.

We have to prove it to them day in and day out. That attitude I think will serve us well.

[Cheesehead]

Only one thing to do:

#BustTheF-IngDoorDown!!!!!

Exactly! Just win and all the media idiots will eat crow

[Xavier]

I think this is the first year I've seen multiple media folk say Xavier is a legit NC contender. Some people will find any way they can to find the lack of respect card.

As for the Big East, I get wanting to cheer them on in March madness but after last year I just don't care. There have been great teams in the big east who just can't do anything in March, reminds me of when I'd make fun of the Bearcats big east members always stinking it up come March. I want BE to do well but don't expect it.

[spursy]

Filling out a bracket is going to be especially difficult this year...I can usually temper my homer-ism with realistic expectations, but maybe I should realistically put xavier in the final 4 this year?

God bless this season. I love the respect we've gotten this year, even if we aren't talked about as much as UK. Watching the talking heads make sense of Kentucky being shit has been thoroughly rewarding in its own right.

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[bobbiemcgee]

We're 16-1. I'm pretty damn happy.

[JTG]

This board is the home of the disrespect card. ...people here go looking for the slightest omissions. If some talking head said " X is headed to the FF, but their shoes are ugly ", most people here would just pick out the shoe comment. Act like you been there, unless you're mostly white like Gonzaga, you're not gonna get the press the "blue bloods" get.

[Caveat]

Respect is not given in sports, respect is taken -- forcibly.

For as consistently good as Xavier as been, they've never been to a Final Four. Until that next step happens, the national media types will err on the side of non belief. And that's a good thing -- I want to take that respect from their Duke / UNC / UK / MSU etc. mouths and force them to recognize.

[xubrew]

X hasn't won a close game yet. I've heard commentators reference this and say that because we've never been in a close game we're lucky to buckle if we ever are in one.

If we had three or four wins by about 3 points, those same media members would say we were lucky and that we haven't shown that we can dominate a game.

It's not just Xavier they say things like that about. It's everyone.

[GoMuskies]

unless you're mostly white like Gonzaga

Wait, what?

[gladdenguy]

Just knock down the final four door. That is the first step.

This might be the best Xavier team before the tourney I've ever seen. Now I worry about shitting the bed in the tourney (aka Villanoving it after a great season). I can never be happy.......I just worry more now that they are so good. I'm sure glad I didn't win the powerball. I would be f&$ked.

[vee4xu]

Just knock down the final four door. That is the first step.

This might be the best Xavier team before the tourney I've ever seen. Now I worry about shitting the bed in the tourney (aka Villanoving it after a great season). I can never be happy.......I just worry more now that they are so good. I'm sure glad I didn't win the powerball. I would be f&$ked.

If you weren't worried about something gg, I'd be worried. :biggrin:

[xdude]

We're 16-1. I'm pretty damn happy.

Yep

[flagship]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCxkEPlVLzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCxkEPlVLzs

[XUMIOH12]

we aren't a "name brand" and that's why we never get the respect we deserve, relative to each season, but we have almost always proved out worth in the tournament, so that's what counts and where we can show up those clowns who are so called "experts"

[Drew's Crew]

I love X and think we are awesome, but this comment makes no sense.

We don't prove people wrong in the tournament.

Zero Final Fours. Zero. The average fan doesn't know or care that we have been in 5 Sweet Sixteens recently. George Mason made a Final Four. VCU made a Final Four. Butler made the championship IN BACK TO BACK YEARS AND PEOPLE STILL DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.

That's the reality. We have been a great program over the last 30 years but until we go out and make a final four or win a championship nothing will be drastically different. And that's just the reality of our situation.

[scoscox]

Really until you win a national title the respect won't be the same. Having proven that a national championship is possible at your school is huge.

[LA Muskie]

I find it pretty ironic that we are getting the most and best national media attention that we've ever had, and yet some still feel disrespected. Actually, it's not ironic. It's annoying. Just enjoy the run, dude.


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[UCGRAD4X]

We have been to zero Final Fours. We have no 5-star can't miss NBA prospects. The average fan doesn't even know who our coach is. This year and next year I think we take the program to another level, but until we do we cant be incredulous by people that don't expect us to..

This..


I find it pretty ironic that we are getting the most and best national media attention that we've ever had, and yet some still feel disrespected. Just enjoy the run, dude.

...and this.

Winning cures all ills.

[Michigan Muskie]

I love X and think we are awesome, but this comment makes no sense.

We don't prove people wrong in the tournament.

Zero Final Fours. Zero. The average fan doesn't know or care that we have been in 5 Sweet Sixteens recently. George Mason made a Final Four. VCU made a Final Four. Butler made the championship IN BACK TO BACK YEARS AND PEOPLE STILL DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.

That's the reality. We have been a great program over the last 30 years but until we go out and make a final four or win a championship nothing will be drastically different. And that's just the reality of our situation.

Here's another thing: A lot of people don't give a rat's arse about college basketball. When I sit down at the neighborhood poker game, any sports talk leans toward the NFL, college football, the Tigers and the Red Wings. Meanwhile, UFC is what we always see on their TV even if there were a college hoops game between Michigan and Michigan State at the same time. No one would know, and no one would care. Except me. Keep in mind we live 20 miles from Crisler Center and 45 miles from The Breslin, but in that garage, I'm the only one out of 20 who ever even initiates conversation about college hoops. Does that scale out nationally? Does only 5% of the US population follow college hoops? If so, do we really give a flying kite about what the other 95% thinks?

The reality is, the other 95% doesn't even come out to play until the brackets are printed and they start drawing circles with a #2 pencil around teams with the lower number. Cool thing about this year is that, as of today, X has a legit chance of being on that 1 line for the first time. You want respect and recognition? Keep doing what we're doing right now to secure that 1-seed. That's step 1. Step 2 is to do something historic with it.

Just remember. Even if X pulls off the dream season and wins a national championship, a week after the final buzzer, only 10% of the people will remember who won and only about 5% will care. Maybe 6% if you count those who won their bracket contests because they picked X as their champion.

I know my 5% / 95% pie chart could be off a bit - I'm just using our poker night as a microcosm to support a point. Whatever the number is, compared to the other major sports, we live in a small circle. The others are missing out on a really fun cocktail hour before the big party. Now's not the time to be tired, MuskiePimp23. Now's the time to drink the good scotch and pick at the fancy hors d'oeuvres with your inner circle while the rest of the world gets stuck with mini corn dogs and bud light.

[XUGRAD80]

I started to write a long discourse about how you win respect by playing and beating the top teams during the regular season and not just doing well in the Tourney, but you know what? Screw that!

STOP WORRYING about what announcers and fans say and think. Their opinions are worth absolutely nothing and mean nothing. Remember St. Joe's and how they where undefeated and ranked #1? Xavier didn't listen to any of that and smoked them! Just keep playing ball and winning. Beat 'Nova here at home and in the BE tourney, win the BE and head for the promised land. They can talk all they want, but in the end I hope to be taking a late March trip to a city in Texas....while others are sitting home wishing they where X!

[xeus]

Kansas, Oklahoma, Maryland, UNC, Michigan State, Duke, Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia, Miami (FL), blah, blah blah...Villanova and then Xavier is pretty good too.

I don't think we're watching the same media. Xavier is getting at least as much "respect" as all of those teams. I've read multiple articles and heard multiple commentaries (including Wojo) arguing that Xavier could contend for a national title this year. Unlike you, I really don't care about national media "respect", but I would argue that we are getting it, and an appropriate amount.

We are a long way from being a blue blood, and we're never going to be a large state school - all of those schools you listed are one or the other. Sometimes that's just the nature of being the little guy. (There's a softball if anyone wants to take a swing...)

[sgarcia]

There's only 2 things we should care about

1) Xavier winning basketball games
2) What the NCAA tournament committee thinks of us.

Period. End of story.

[94GRAD]

Can you imagine if Ed Sumner played for UK? Yikes...

Why the F would you sat this?????

[Masterofreality]

There's only 2 things we should care about

1) Xavier winning basketball games
2) What the NCAA tournament committee thinks of us.

Period. End of story.

#BustTheF-IngDoorDown!!!

[MuskiePimp23]

I started to write a long discourse about how you win respect by playing and beating the top teams during the regular season and not just doing well in the Tourney, but you know what? Screw that!

STOP WORRYING about what announcers and fans say and think. Their opinions are worth absolutely nothing and mean nothing. Remember St. Joe's and how they where undefeated and ranked #1? Xavier didn't listen to any of that and smoked them! Just keep playing ball and winning. Beat 'Nova here at home and in the BE tourney, win the BE and head for the promised land. They can talk all they want, but in the end I hope to be taking an early April trip to a city in Texas....while others are sitting home wishing they where X!

Agreed. I like to use it as motivation. Also fixed that for you.

[XUGRAD80]

yes, thank you. I couldn't remember the exact date and was to lazy this morning to look it up.....lol

[nasdadjr]

The calculus is pretty simple to me. X, or someone other than Villanova wins a national championship, then the narrative changes. Otherwise, take the advice of either not watching at all or not paying attention to the comments if you do watch.

Original poster needs to chill the hell out and understand this guys post. You do realize the AAC has more national titles than our Big East so until this conference does something then we can't complain

[scoscox]

Yea, I actually think we've gotten a lot of respect this year. I don't think we've quite gotten the respect in the polls we have probably deserved, but we're still pretty high regardless. I do wish that some media members would let go of some of their pet projects though. Frankly, I think teams like Maryland, UNC, Virginia are all a little overinflated. Kansas and Michigan State I'm not sure are that great either, but it has helped their status that there hasn't been a clearly dominating team. Granted we haven't had a chance to play them and blow their doors off yet, so they've been protected from exposure for the time being.

[xufan2434]

100% the most respect I've seen X get has been this year. Ever since the UD blowout, national writers (especially ESPN) have been talking about them. So from that aspect I don't understand the argument. As for the Big East, I think they've gotten everything the conference has deserved. Providence has now lost 2 of 3 at home and needed a buzzer beater to win @ Creighton. That isn't going to help the league. While it might point to the depth of the league, I think it points more that Providence is struggling or might be overrated.

Either way, I think 2 Big East teams need to make the Elite 8 or farther this year to get the respect you're talking about. Would be huge if 1 (X hopefully) can make the Final 4. And to be honest, I still have zero faith in Villanova to get it done.