Ed?

[Emp]

Just merge thi s thread if I'm missing it, but what news on Sumner?

[X Factor]

In concussion protocol. Will probably be out until Marquette, or whenever he's cleared.

[XUMIOH12]

Everybody keeps throwing out this Marquette date for his return, which seems like an ample amount of time, as well as the first game that's not St. John's/DePaul. But it seems like that is just speculation, because you just never know with concussions.

[xu82]

Everybody keeps throwing out this Marquette date for his return, which seems like an ample amount of time, as well as the first game that's not St. John's/DePaul. But it seems like that is just speculation, because you just never know with concussions.

Yeah, too many factors to even guess. Depends on severity, previous history, etc. It can range from a few days to a month or more. Guessing is pointless.

[Emp]

Is he practicing, light workout, nothing at all.?

[spursy]

I'd prefer a conservative approach over rushing him back. Myles and Larry are a better option than a concussed pg. I know I'm stating the obvious, but...well that's about it actually, just get him back in action when he is ready (according to the medical team, not ed)

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[GIMMFD]

I'd prefer a conservative approach over rushing him back. Myles and Larry are a better option than a concussed pg. I know I'm stating the obvious, but...well that's about it actually, just get him back in action when he is ready (according to the medical team, not ed)

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Agreed, because if it's up to Ed, I'm sure he'd want to be back next game. Let's just hope it's not a severe concussion, and we can get him back for Marquette, that would be ideal.

[XfansinKy]

I hope it's not severe too. It sure looked as severe as any sports concussion I've ever seen. Lucky he didn't have a cracked skull. As bad as it was, it could've been so much worse. That's why even after the heat of the moment and emotions are in check, I'm so pissed at Jay Wright obviously having that message sent. By the way, I lucked across another video angle(sorry I don't have the link but it's out there) that made the play look even less of a basketball play. I also noticed on the other video that while everybody in the gym was respectfully quiet as well as in shock, Jay couldn't care less as he was coaching away to individual players like it was just another time out. I would rather he didn't patronize Ed in that stupid "warrior" tweet. He doesn't even really know Ed.

[bleedXblue]

I hope it's not severe too. It sure looked as severe as any sports concussion I've ever seen. Lucky he didn't have a cracked skull. As bad as it was, it could've been so much worse. That's why even after the heat of the moment and emotions are in check, I'm so pissed at Jay Wright obviously having that message sent. By the way, I lucked across another video angle(sorry I don't have the link but it's out there) that made the play look even less of a basketball play. I also noticed on the other video that while everybody in the gym was respectfully quiet as well as in shock, Jay couldn't care less as he was coaching away to individual players like it was just another time out. I would rather he didn't patronize Ed in that stupid "warrior" tweet. He doesn't even really know Ed.

Yep.

[Cheesehead]

Ed didn't practice yesterday. They have practice today at 11:30.

[Masterofreality]

Ed didn't practice yesterday. They have practice today at 11:30.

I really doubt he'll play tomorrow night. Save him for DePuke. A good long rest.

[LA Muskie]

He isn't playing tomorrow. Can't make it through the protocol that fast.


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[Emp]

I hope it's not severe too. It sure looked as severe as any sports concussion I've ever seen. Lucky he didn't have a cracked skull. As bad as it was, it could've been so much worse. That's why even after the heat of the moment and emotions are in check, I'm so pissed at Jay Wright obviously having that message sent. By the way, I lucked across another video angle(sorry I don't have the link but it's out there) that made the play look even less of a basketball play. I also noticed on the other video that while everybody in the gym was respectfully quiet as well as in shock, Jay couldn't care less as he was coaching away to individual players like it was just another time out. I would rather he didn't patronize Ed in that stupid "warrior" tweet. He doesn't even really know Ed.

Reaching a bit for the hate on Wright. What's he supposed to do when play stops for a long break? Why is it patronizing to tweet something conciliatory?

The premise that Wright put a fatwa on Sumner is just not supported by the way the injury occurred. It is not necessary to hate on rivals in order to have a good rivalry.

[MuskieXU]

Reaching a bit for the hate on Wright. What's he supposed to do when play stops for a long break? Why is it patronizing to tweet something conciliatory?

The premise that Wright put a fatwa on Sumner is just not supported by the way the injury occurred. It is not necessary to hate on rivals in order to have a good rivalry.

Agreed. I dont understand the conspiracy theories or hate for Wright on here. Our team plays pretty chippy, and if the situation were reversed I hope CM would take the opportunity to put his foot on the gas as well.

[Xville]

I don't think we see Ed until Marquette at the very earliest. It could be a month or longer as well....it just depends. Patience young grasshoppers.

[UCGRAD4X]

The sooner he returns - the better he performs on the concussion protocol (meaning he is healthy). As opposed to not passing the test meaning he still has issues - which is bad long-term for Xavier and especially for Ed. I would like to see him back YESTERDAY if it means he is at or near 100% (minus usual and customary cobwebs and dust having taken time off).

[Emp]

Don't like the PG concussion issues we've had at X. Dee had quite a few knocks. I don't see that there is anything to be learned, or unlearned......but better minds might.

[Emp]

Agreed. I dont understand the conspiracy theories or hate for Wright on here. Our team plays pretty chippy, and if the situation were reversed I hope CM would take the opportunity to put his foot on the gas as well.

When Cooley had his palpitations last year at Cintas, X turned the game around, zoom. After, everyone including Mack had good words for his recovery.

[X-band '01]

Don't like the PG concussion issues we've had at X. Dee had quite a few knocks. I don't see that there is anything to be learned, or unlearned......but better minds might.

One thing learned - never play VCU/Texas/Havoc again.

[Cheesehead]

Ed watched practice today but sat out.

[Masterofreality]

One thing learned - never play VCU/Texas/Havoc again.

F-em. Really, F-em!!!!!!!

[bobbiemcgee]

I thought this was a thread about something else.

[MADXSTER]

Ed watched practice today but sat out.

Cheesehead stalks Ed around campus. He is a very reliable source when it comes to Ed. 😊

[xu82]

I thought this was a thread about something else.

Mr Ed? He only talks when no one else is around.

[Mel Cooley XU'81]

I think you mean . . . unless he has something to say.

[xu82]

I think you mean . . . unless he has something to say.

Ha! He's a complicated beast with a future somehow related to Skyline chili....of course, of course.

Wilbur was his only real friend.

.

[Emp]

I think you mean . . . unless he has something to say.

Spit take as I sip on some bourbon and parouse the board.

[IM4X]

Spit take as I sip on some bourbon and parouse the board.

Not me. I prefer to peruse the board. But then maybe that's simply because I have yet to sip on my bourbon.

[XfansinKy]

Agreed. I dont understand the conspiracy theories or hate for Wright on here. Our team plays pretty chippy, and if the situation were reversed I hope CM would take the opportunity to put his foot on the gas as well.

No conspiracy at all in my opinion. I also hate absolutely nobody. Just an early message being sent that went terribly wrong. I don't understand why X fans are going so far out of there way with the whole "Good will towards Jay Wright even though his guys nearly killed our PG" thing. That's the conspiracy if their is one.

[Cheesehead]

Cheesehead stalks Ed around campus. He is a very reliable source when it comes to Ed. 

Well, My son is one of the managers. I will not offer all the info as this is a public forum and I wll never put anything damaging on the board.

[waggy]

No conspiracy at all in my opinion. I also hate absolutely nobody. Just an early message being sent that went terribly wrong. I don't understand why X fans are going so far out of there way with the whole "Good will towards Jay Wright even though his guys nearly killed our PG" thing. That's the conspiracy if their is one.


Their defensive play didn't look any different than many others commonly seen in basketball. The only difference was a defensive players feet gotten taken out and he landed on the offensive player. Not necessarily common, but also not unheard of.

I'm sure the Nova players were told to watch out for Ed's speed, and to get back. They probably heard that a lot. But that's not the same thing as intentionally trying to hurt him.

I don't give two shits about Villanova, but you're a neandrethal if you think Wright instructs his players to intentionally hurt the opponent. If anyone is "going out of their way", it's people like you making that leap.

[XfansinKy]

Their defensive play didn't look any different than many others commonly seen in basketball. The only difference was a defensive players feet gotten taken out and he landed on the offensive player. Not necessarily common, but also not unheard of.

I'm sure the Nova players were told to watch out for Ed's speed, and to get back. They probably heard that a lot. But that's not the same thing as intentionally trying to hurt him.

I don't give two shits about Villanova, but you're a neandrethal if you think Wright instructs his players to intentionally hurt the opponent. If anyone is "going out of their way", it's people like you making that leap.

I wondered how long it would take someone to take so much offense to a difference of opinion that they start name calling and making insinuating remarks about "people like me". It's fascinating to be honest at how quickly it came. Some of us "people like me", just don't see a play on the ball. That's all. People like me can appreciate diversity and differences of opinion without taking it personal though.

[waggy]

I wondered how long it would take someone to take so much offense to a difference of opinion that they start name calling and making insinuating remarks about "people like me". It's fascinating to be honest at how quickly it came. Some of us "people like me", just don't see a play on the ball. That's all. People like me can appreciate diversity and differences of opinion without taking it personal though.

I agree, let's not make this personal. Let's make it about your stupid opinion. Which is that Jay Wright instructs his players to hurt the opponent.

[XfansinKy]

Two posts and two insults towards me because I don't agree with you? Your on a roll.

[waggy]

Two posts and two insults towards me because I don't agree with you? Your on a roll.


Jay Wright thinks you're a hypocrite.

Does that make it 3?

[MADXSTER]

Well, My son is one of the managers. I will not offer all the info as this is a public forum and I wll never put anything damaging on the board.

Hey People, Do not believe the above. If you see someone in the stands at practice hiding behind some seats with his head occasionally popping up....That would be Cheesehead. But don't worry you most likely will not see him. Cheese is Xavierhoops covert ops person. He has been supplied with a decoder ring, a pocket calculator and a rule slide. If more peeps join the Supporting Members X-Lounge we will be able to afford a spyglass for X-Bourne.

[Cheesehead]

Hey People, Do not believe the above. If you see someone in the stands at practice hiding behind some seats with his head occasionally popping up....That would be Cheesehead. But don't worry you most likely will not see him. Cheese is Xavierhoops covert ops person. He has been supplied with a decoder ring, a pocket calculator and a rule slide. If more peeps join the Supporting Members X-Lounge we will be able to afford a spyglass for X-Bourne.

I could tell you but then I would have to kill you😃

[XUOHTX]

Just came to this thread and went to the last page expecting to get the latest update on Ed's status. Instead I walked into some weird opinions are like buttholes fight.

But anyway. Hope to see Ed back soon. Let's go X!

[Somebody]

Just came to this thread and went to the last page expecting to get the latest update on Ed's status. Instead I walked into some weird opinions are like buttholes fight.

But anyway. Hope to see Ed back soon. Let's go X!
I also thought maybe a message thread with the title Ed? would yield some information on Mr. Sumner's status. I too was surprised it was about buttholes.

[Always Learning]

I keep reading conflicting posts, and I have no idea which ones to believe.
Did Ed Sumner have a diagnosed or not? Said who from the University.?
Coach Mack said he did not nor is he being treated for one.
But posters who "have sources" say he did/does.
And that has led to treatment, how long will he be out, what is his prognosis, what level concussion did he have etc etc etc.
I know we must have a physician posting, but sometimes it looks like we only have physicians posting.
Gud Johnson more than a few times last week was saying "how in many circumstances the carting of Ed off are just precautionary.
Sitting at some 50 feet away, and air time to fill because the truck doesn't want to leave the picture, Gus (and scores of other announcers and analysts) are just engaging brain to audio with no idea what they are talking about. Ditto in a football telecast when they are two stories away and the players is surrounded by a training staff they start to opine the kind of injury etc etc etc.
Anyway, back to Ed. Did he or didn't he and is he or isn't he?

[XUFan09]

Sumner had a concussion. When a person is knocked unconscious from head trauma, they have a concussion. And it was confirmed by Xavier just before the Butler game on Saturday.

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[Masterofreality]

I keep reading conflicting posts, and I have no idea which ones to believe.
Did Ed Sumner have a diagnosed or not? Said who from the University.?
Coach Mack said he did not nor is he being treated for one.
But posters who "have sources" say he did/does.
And that has led to treatment, how long will he be out, what is his prognosis, what level concussion did he have etc etc etc.
I know we must have a physician posting, but sometimes it looks like we only have physicians posting.
Gud Johnson more than a few times last week was saying "how in many circumstances the carting of Ed off are just precautionary.
Sitting at some 50 feet away, and air time to fill because the truck doesn't want to leave the picture, Gus (and scores of other announcers and analysts) are just engaging brain to audio with no idea what they are talking about. Ditto in a football telecast when they are two stories away and the players is surrounded by a training staff they start to opine the kind of injury etc etc etc.
Anyway, back to Ed. Did he or didn't he and is he or isn't he?

I don't know, but he won't play tonight. That's really all that counts. :nono:

[xu82]

Sumner had a concussion. When a person is knocked unconscious from head trauma, they have a concussion. And it was confirmed by Xavier just before the Butler game on Saturday.

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If you read this post, it will save you several hundred pages of often unpleasant back and forth. Enjoy the Cliffs Notes version!

[LA Muskie]

I keep reading conflicting posts, and I have no idea which ones to believe.
Did Ed Sumner have a diagnosed or not? Said who from the University.?
Coach Mack said he did not nor is he being treated for one.
But posters who "have sources" say he did/does.
And that has led to treatment, how long will he be out, what is his prognosis, what level concussion did he have etc etc etc.
I know we must have a physician posting, but sometimes it looks like we only have physicians posting.
Gud Johnson more than a few times last week was saying "how in many circumstances the carting of Ed off are just precautionary.
Sitting at some 50 feet away, and air time to fill because the truck doesn't want to leave the picture, Gus (and scores of other announcers and analysts) are just engaging brain to audio with no idea what they are talking about. Ditto in a football telecast when they are two stories away and the players is surrounded by a training staff they start to opine the kind of injury etc etc etc.
Anyway, back to Ed. Did he or didn't he and is he or isn't he?

Please tell me you're kidding. PLEASE...

[OTRMUSKIE]

Two posts and two insults towards me because I don't agree with you? Your on a roll.

Don't take it personal XFasinky, Waggy is one of the biggest dicks on this board. He insults people whenever he gets a chance.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Gud Johnson more than a few times last week was saying "how in many circumstances the carting of Ed off are just precautionary.
Sitting at some 50 feet away, and air time to fill because the truck doesn't want to leave the picture, Gus (and scores of other announcers and analysts) are just engaging brain to audio with no idea what they are talking about. Ditto in a football telecast when they are two stories away and the players is surrounded by a training staff they start to opine the kind of injury etc etc etc.
Anyway, back to Ed. Did he or didn't he and is he or isn't he?

Gud Johnson isn't as informative as his older brother Gus so I wouldnt be looking to Gud for any real answers.

[XfansinKy]

Don't take it personal XFasinky, Waggy is one of the biggest dicks on this board. He insults people whenever he gets a chance.

After a few private messages along with yours expressing the same sentiments, I now realize that. My bad for getting tied up in that. Ed Sumner is a beast, and I hope to never again be a part of the reason "butthole"is used in a thread about him. :embarassed::embarassed:

[bobbiemcgee]

Hmmmm:

" The Musketeers already were without starting point guard Edmond Sumner, who is undergoing concussion protocol and did not make the trip. When asked when Sumner might return, Mack said, "Sooner rather than later."

"That doesn't necessarily give you any projected date," Mack added. "To be honest with you, I haven't asked our doctors. I haven't asked our trainers. When the time's right and he's released, he'll play again."


and Congrats to Coach Mack:

http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2016/01/07/Chris-Mack-makes-Xavier-history-in-win-at-St-Johns/9731452149778/

[OTRMUSKIE]

Someone needs to explain this to me Did I miss something?

"Skip meant a lot to me," Prosser said. "I'm not half the coach that Skip is, and I mean that in all sincerity because just his way with people. Sometimes I get to into the basketball part.

[GoMuskies]

"I'm not half the coach that Skip is


Thank God. We'd be terrible at basketball if he was.

[bleedXblue]

[QUOTE=bobbiemcgee;529782]Hmmmm:

" The Musketeers already were without starting point guard Edmond Sumner, who is undergoing concussion protocol and did not make the trip. When asked when Sumner might return, Mack said, "Sooner rather than later."

"That doesn't necessarily give you any projected date," Mack added. "To be honest with you, I haven't asked our doctors. I haven't asked our trainers. When the time's right and he's released, he'll play again."




Yeah, how does he know he'll be back sooner than later without talking to the doctors who are going to eventually release him to play?

[bobbiemcgee]

Vote for Ed

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/xavier-musketeers-edmond-sumner-injury-update-chris-mack-010716

[Snipe]

All Hail The Jedi!!!

[Cheesehead]

[QUOTE=bobbiemcgee;529782]Hmmmm:

" The Musketeers already were without starting point guard Edmond Sumner, who is undergoing concussion protocol and did not make the trip. When asked when Sumner might return, Mack said, "Sooner rather than later."

"That doesn't necessarily give you any projected date," Mack added. "To be honest with you, I haven't asked our doctors. I haven't asked our trainers. When the time's right and he's released, he'll play again."




Yeah, how does he know he'll be back sooner than later without talking to the doctors who are going to eventually release him to play?

Mack addressed this again last night at the coach's show and he basically said there is no exact timetable. He said Ed could be back for DePaul or it could be Marquette or even beyond if necessary. He refused to talk about concussion protocol and said he doesn't know what it is and won't talk about it specifically. I am thinking he doesn't honestly know right now when Ed will return so they have to plan to play without Ed for the forseeable future.

[UCGRAD4X]

[QUOTE=bobbiemcgee;529782]Hmmmm:

" The Musketeers already were without starting point guard Edmond Sumner, who is undergoing concussion protocol and did not make the trip. When asked when Sumner might return, Mack said, "Sooner rather than later."

"That doesn't necessarily give you any projected date," Mack added. "To be honest with you, I haven't asked our doctors. I haven't asked our trainers. When the time's right and he's released, he'll play again."




Yeah, how does he know he'll be back sooner than later without talking to the doctors who are going to eventually release him to play?

I think it is a combination of frustration and wishful thinking on coach's part.

Part one: just an expression that he is an important part of the team and they want him back.

Part two: planning game strategy and not knowing if he can include Sumner or not really changes how they go about this process.

Mack (and all coaches) have a very fine line to walk here. This is such a huge issue now, any "interference" by the coaching staff might be seen as trying to influence an earlier return. Isn't the real controversy in this whole concussion protocol stem largely from players who medically should not be playing rushed back too soon, or at all?

As in: "How many fingers am I holding up?" "OK (or, close enough), you're good to go, get back in there!"

I see it as the coach needing to be separated from the protocol, and it has got to be HUGELY frustrating, but he probably needs to be very guarded in his comments.

"Sooner, rather than later" might have been close to the line.

[D-West & PO-Z]

[QUOTE=bleedXblue;529789]

Mack addressed this again last night at the coach's show and he basically said there is no exact timetable. He said Ed could be back for DePaul or it could be Marquette or even beyond if necessary. He refused to talk about concussion protocol and said he doesn't know what it is and won't talk about it specifically. I am thinking he doesn't honestly know right now when Ed will return so they have to plan to play without Ed for the forseeable future.

Yeah I think this sounds right. I mean doctors mess this stuff up too, it is not an exact science all the time and what one medical professional thinks might not be what the other does.

Do you guys remember when RGIII had the concussion and was reported to be cleared then it was said that he was not cleared? The neurologist cleared him (most likely bc he was symptom free) and then the neuropsychologist evaluated him and said he did not pass and needed to remain in the protocol. Being free of symptoms doesnt necessarily mean your brain has returned to normal and is, for lack of a better term, functioning completely properly. When you get a concussion you are more susceptible to get them in the future and the worse case scenario is coming back too soon and getting another.

I would be interested to know who makes the concussion decisions for Xavier's athletes. I know there is a local concussion clinic, wonder if they go there or if it is just the team doctors. I would think for this high level D1 a neurologist would be involved. No idea though. Like other have said I am sure the medical staff is doing all it can for Ed and will make sure he is 100% before he is cleared to return. Got to be frustrating though for the athlete's and the coaches in scenarios like these. It is a lot different than having an injured leg or arm etc where the time tables are much more defined.

[bleedXblue]

Any news on Ed? Hoping he's feeling better and getting closer to a return.

[Joel]

Any news on Ed? Hoping he's feeling better and getting closer to a return.

CBS is reporting that Coach Mack said there is still no known timetable for Ed's return. I would have liked to see him back a little bit before Marquette, but that seems like a distant hope now.

[Xville]

CBS is reporting that Coach Mack said there is still no known timetable for Ed's return. I would have liked to see him back a little bit before Marquette, but that seems like a distant hope now.

I would not be surprised to see him against Marquette...I would also not be surprised to see him until February....just never know with concussions, and I doubt he sustained a "mild" one.

[XU3232]

Shannon Russell ‏@slrussell · 14m14 minutes ago
Mack: "He’s getting very, very close. He has no signs when it comes to the protocol so he’s going to be in sooner rather than later."

[Xville]

Shannon Russell ‏@slrussell · 14m14 minutes ago
Mack: "He’s getting very, very close. He has no signs when it comes to the protocol so he’s going to be in sooner rather than later."

Great News...maybe he plays this weekend at Marquette or the following game at home.

[XU3232]

Great News...maybe he plays this weekend at Marquette or the following game at home.

Agreed... definitely good to see this and it would be really nice to have him against Marquette.

[GIMMFD]

Marquette will be tough, Ellenson is an animal. I think we'll definitely need him for Marquette. He just adds another dimension to our offense, he's too athletic for a lot of opposing teams to handle. Definitely blessed in that situation.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Having Ed in for Marquette creates a massive matchup problem them especially when their preferred PG is in Traci Carter who is 6 feet in lifts.


Marquette will be tough, Ellenson is an animal. I think we'll definitely need him for Marquette. He just adds another dimension to our offense, he's too athletic for a lot of opposing teams to handle. Definitely blessed in that situation.

[Harryfe]

Going to take a while for Ed to get back into basketball shape. Suspect he has been pretty inactive

[UCGRAD4X]

Going to take a while for Ed to get back into basketball shape. Suspect he has been pretty inactive

Wouldn't expect him to log many minutes his first time out. I'm thinking 10-12 min.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I dont think it will take him long to get into basketball shape. Lets be serious he is a 19 year old college athlete in prime shape. He hasnt played for 11 days, but basketball activities/exercise is all a part of the protocol to get back to being cleared. I cant imagine he is too out of shape.

[UCGRAD4X]

I dont think it will take him long to get into basketball shape. Lets be serious he is a 19 year old college athlete in prime shape. He hasnt played for 11 days, but basketball activities/exercise is all a part of the protocol to get back to being cleared. I cant imagine he is too out of shape.

Not really worried about him being out of shape. Yeah, it would depend on what kind of work he was allowed to do under 'protocol' - I was more thinking they want to be cautious. Pure speculation on my part - no insight what-so-ever.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Not really worried about him being out of shape. Yeah, it would depend on what kind of work he was allowed to do under 'protocol' - I was more thinking they want to be cautious. Pure speculation on my part - no insight what-so-ever.

I believe the cautious part will be in not allowing him to play until 100% ready and that once cleared and back there will be no restrictions.

But as you said, pure speculation on my part as well.

[bobbiemcgee]

I'd like to see him come to the game and get his massive crowd acknowledgement @ home, anyway. Guess that will be up to the Docs also.

[Cheesehead]

Ed had a workout today but no practice per se. I won't speculate about Marquette but won't see action Tuesday.

[XfansinKy]

Ed had a workout today but no practice per se. I won't speculate about Marquette but won't see action Tuesday.
Good update. I wonder if Ed will sit with the team or stay out of the lights, crowd noise etc in order to heal?

[Xpectations]

Ed is on the court and participating in the layup line as we "speak."

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Great news.


Ed is on the court and participating in the layup line as we "speak."

[bobbiemcgee]

Ed had a workout today but no practice per se. I won't speculate about Marquette but won't see action Tuesday.

We talking about Practice?....practice?...Ed don't need no practice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

[Emp]

Cheese, inquiring minds need to know......

Is Ed dunking yet?

Scrimmaging?

[smileyy]

I'm looking forward to Ed hitting the jets, cocking the hammer back and throwing down some more ferocious dunks. I was getting accustomed to those.

I love how the caught the announcers in the Crosstown Shootout unawares mid-story.

[Cheesehead]

Cheese, inquiring minds need to know......

Is Ed dunking yet?

Scrimmaging?

The boy cannot make practice today due to his class schedule but he thinks Ed is going to practice. That is all I got.

[Masterofreality]

The boy cannot make practice today due to his class schedule but he thinks Ed is going to practice. That is all I got.

Don't get your boy in trouble. There are guys in the program that read these boards looking for scoops that shouldn't be put out there. A kid who I'm very close with was a Manager for 4 years. He told me stuff, but had to be guarded on what got out. Be very very careful.

[bobbiemcgee]

Well Mack told Dickey Simpkins after the game that Ed would probably practice today, so I wouldn't worry.

[Masterofreality]

Well Mack told Dickey Simpkins after the game that Ed would probably practice today, so I wouldn't worry.

I know, he practiced yesterday. Just giving the "word of warning".

[Masterofreality]

@slrussell: Mack: "We’ll put Marquette aside and talk about practice today. I fully expect him to go in practice today 100 percent in the drills."

@slrussell: Mack: "As long as he responds today and tomorrow in a way that we hope that he does, then he’ll play against Marquette."

[Cheesehead]

Don't get your boy in trouble. There are guys in the program that read these boards looking for scoops that shouldn't be put out there. A kid who I'm very close with was a Manager for 4 years. He told me stuff, but had to be guarded on what got out. Be very very careful.

Good point. I think I am done w/ info.

[nuts4xu]

Here is the article from Shannon....

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2016/01/14/xaviers-edmond-sumner-cleared-practice/78794286/

[bobbiemcgee]

Great news....Welcome back Ed.

[kyxu]

Maybe they should consider adding to Edmond's uniform for Saturday...

1906

[JTG]

Anyone else wonder if Ed will be hesitant to go to the rim after what happened in Philly ?

[UCGRAD4X]

Anyone else wonder if Ed will be hesitant to go to the rim after what happened in Philly ?

I would. But, thankfully, he ain't me.

Maybe the first time, but after that I expect him to be GTG!

[Always Learning]

We talking about Practice?....practice?...Ed don't need no practice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

Tell that to any athlete in any sport and he'd just laugh in your face. On the other side the game(s) are full of average athletes with worlds of upside who believe as you do, and like the Merry Mex always said, "guys who have to chip in for pars, ain't long in this game." Last weekend after going 19 under after two rounds, Jordan Speith put in an hour of practice before his third round.

I know, I know, you were being facetious (maybe?) but couldn't pass up have some fun with you.

[Always Learning]

Anyone else wonder if Ed will be hesitant to go to the rim after what happened in Philly ?

It would suit me just fine if Ed or any other player ceased to "fly" to the rim. That is just showtime and can (and did) lead to injury. Thankful it wasn't worse. But it could have been. If, this "skywalking" to the rim keeps leading to injuries, and Ed wasn't the first one, the "no dunk" rule will come back!

[ammtd34]

It would suit me just fine if Ed or any other player ceased to "fly" to the rim. That is just showtime and can (and did) lead to injury. Thankful it wasn't worse. But it could have been. If, this "skywalking" to the rim keeps leading to injuries, and Ed wasn't the first one, the "no dunk" rule will come back!

What?

[Smails]

It would suit me just fine if Ed or any other player ceased to "fly" to the rim. That is just showtime and can (and did) lead to injury. Thankful it wasn't worse. But it could have been. If, this "skywalking" to the rim keeps leading to injuries, and Ed wasn't the first one, the "no dunk" rule will come back!

My god...please be joking. This immediately comes to mind


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVToi7Z_6YU

[bobbiemcgee]

It would suit me just fine if Ed or any other player ceased to "fly" to the rim. That is just showtime and can (and did) lead to injury. Thankful it wasn't worse. But it could have been. If, this "skywalking" to the rim keeps leading to injuries, and Ed wasn't the first one, the "no dunk" rule will come back!

I love the way Ed plays this game. 100% and usually under control. Hope he doesn't change a thing. Glad you aren't giving advice to Nascar drivers. "Go slow" man. Ed flys to the rim to beat his opponent, sometimes when they aren't even set on the defense. That's his game. That's our game.

[Muncie]

I can see both sides of the "fly " discussion , super cool dunks can be momentum changers and also can deflate an opponent trying to make a comeback . But as slim as Ed is at this point in his career I think wise choices as to when to fly would be smart when some of the giant big men in the BE are in the neighborhood .

[XUFan09]

I can see both sides of the "fly " discussion , super cool dunks can be momentum changers and also can deflate an opponent trying to make a comeback . But as slim as Ed is at this point in his career I think wise choices as to when to fly would be smart when some of the giant big men in the BE are in the neighborhood .
He seems to get his legs cut out from under him more than most who get fouled going to the hoop.

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[LA Muskie]

He seems to get his legs cut out from under him more than most who get fouled going to the hoop.
Mack himself has essentially raised this as a concern. I think Ed just needs to learn how to control his body (particularly his lower body) when trying to finish through contact a full speed. He also needs to learn how to cushion his fall better. Yes, it is a learned skill.

[xu82]

They should only be allowed to fly if they are dressed appropriately.

1907

[Emp]

Don't get your boy in trouble. There are guys in the program that read these boards looking for scoops that shouldn't be put out there. A kid who I'm very close with was a Manager for 4 years. He told me stuff, but had to be guarded on what got out. Be very very careful.

Free Cheese! No gag orders! Don't let The Man get you down.

[MADXSTER]

Free Cheese! No gag orders! Don't let The Man get you down.

Agree ^^^

[D-West & PO-Z]

Free Cheese! No gag orders! Don't let The Man get you down.


Agree ^^^

Even though I love the info, I would venture to guess that is pretty good advice from MOR.

[xu82]

Even though I love the info, I would venture to guess that is pretty good advice from MOR.

No question.



(But there are sneaky anonymous ways....)

[D-West & PO-Z]

No question.



(But there are sneaky anonymous ways....)

Of course......

Cheese, start a new board name (PM us the name) and post inside info from an anonymous source!

[KabeX]

It would suit me just fine if Ed or any other player ceased to "fly" to the rim. That is just showtime and can (and did) lead to injury. Thankful it wasn't worse. But it could have been. If, this "skywalking" to the rim keeps leading to injuries, and Ed wasn't the first one, the "no dunk" rule will come back!

Well I don't think it's showtime as much as Ed being Ed. They guy is just a level above (pun 1) most other players. He's got and EDge (pun 2) to him and that's part of it. Don't want him to starting hesitating and thinking too much. Just play. Swagger on to a Final 4 (bad pun 3).

[Cheesehead]

Of course......

Cheese, start a new board name (PM us the name) and post inside info from an anonymous source!

MOR is right. I got drunk with power! I am going to stick to regular posts and keep what limited info I may or may not get to my very close confidants. Last thing I want to do is jeopardize a great opportunity and weaken a program I love. So, my lips are sealed.

[maketewahXalum]

Per Jeff Goodman, Sumner will be playing Saturday versus Marquette.

LINK (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14572417/edmond-sumner-xavier-musketeers-return-saturday-marquette)

"He's good to go," Musketeers coach Chris Mack told ESPN. "He won't have any restrictions, but he's not going to play 40 minutes Saturday."

GREAT NEWS, even if he only plays for 10 minutes. He is a MASSIVE weapon to have out on the court. I am glad the team has found ways to win without Ed running the show, but we are on an entire different level when he is on the court. Hopefully he is able to shake any potential rust off quickly when he gets back out there.