polls today, predictions ? ?

[XUFan09]

He didn't even have VCU ranked at all last week! And he had Wichita State going from Unranked to #18. Yeesh. Yeah, I don't think Feinstein takes this seriously at all.

If I was a voter, it could be fun to troll fans by randomly misranking teams. It would be important to try to get things right at the end of the regular season, but mid-season, suddenly dropping teams from #2 to #15 or throwing unranked teams in at #10 only to take them out again would be fun.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I actually don't think that. X needs to win Wednesday, and either win the Big East Championship / or lose in the BE Championship, with Nova losing in the quarters or semis.

I don't believe the committee will seed both X and Nova at #1, so X either needs to outlast Nova in the B.E.T. (assuming a win on Wednesday), or beat Nova in the championship.


If X wins out and loses to Nova in the BET champ X and nova will both be one seeds. If they don't then John Feinstein is on the selection committee.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Agreed. Nova and Kansas ranked ahead of us, I'm good with and think they deserve it. Virginia and Oklahoma being ranked above us is stupid. Oklahoma has lost three straight weeks and hasn't even dropped one spot in the AP. Come on.

Oh but don't you know that they also won 3 games? I mean if you lose one and win one its break even for Oklahoma. They are the only team that is allowed to go 15-15 and be ranked 3rd still. Who are they blowing? Somebody is blowing somebody because this is insane. Yes they have lost 3 out of 5 and they were to good teams but that's not how polls should work. Selection committee can look at that and say well they lost to 3 great teams. Polls are for fans and for them to rank Oklahoma 3 is a joke.

[RoseyMuskie]

If X wins out and loses to Nova in the BET champ X and nova will both be one seeds. If they don't then John Feinstein is on the selection committee.

Maybe, but if a team like Virginia, Oklahoma/Kansas, Iowa/MSU only lose one more regular season game, but then win their respective conference tournament, or win out the regular season, and lose in their conference tournament championship, I think X gets the top two seed.

It'll be fun to watch it play out!

[xukeith]

If X wins out and loses to Nova in the BET champ X and nova will both be one seeds. If they don't then John Feinstein is on the selection committee.

100% agree. 2 teams one 29-4, the other 30-4
Both esily will get #1 seeds.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Maybe, but if a team like Virginia, Oklahoma/Kansas, Iowa/MSU only lose one more regular season game, but then win their respective conference tournament, or win out the regular season, and lose in their conference tournament championship, I think X gets the top two seed.

It'll be fun to watch it play out!

No doubt and honestly it would be hard to argue with that if it does happen

[MADXSTER]

The AP and the coaches have the same top 10 teams in each poll. #11 in the AP has Louisville yet not in the coaches. Guessing this is because they are not eligible.

[THRILLHOUSE]

The AP and the coaches have the same top 10 teams in each poll. #11 in the AP has Louisville yet not in the coaches. Guessing this is because they are not eligible.

Correct. Louisville and SMU can't be in the coaches poll due to their ineligibility.

[X-band '01]

Correct. Louisville and SMU can't be in the coaches poll due to their ineligibility.

SMU is barely in the AP Poll - they're being dinged for no longer holding first place in the American.

[GoMuskies]

I'm glad we didn't move up TOO much in the polls this week. This way, maybe we can sneak up on Nova.

[xu82]

I'm glad we didn't move up TOO much in the polls this week. This way, maybe we can sneak up on Nova.

I doubt they even see us coming....

[THRILLHOUSE]

SMU is barely in the AP Poll - they're being dinged for no longer holding first place in the American.

If you are saying SMU isn't in the Coaches Poll because of falling out of 1st in the AAC, that's incorrect. They cannot be in the Coaches Poll no matter what. Ineligible teams are not allowed in the Coaches Poll. (but if you are just pointing out that SMU is in free fall mode and soon won't be ranked in the one poll they are eligible for if it continues, then disregard this)

[X-band '01]

I know they're not eligible for the USA Today Poll; I'm saying that their merit barely warrants being ranked in the AP poll to begin with. (So your premise in parentheses is correct)

[vee4xu]

Both the AP and Coaches pools are Big-5 circle jerks.

[XUFan09]

Maybe, but if a team like Virginia, Oklahoma/Kansas, Iowa/MSU only lose one more regular season game, but then win their respective conference tournament, or win out the regular season, and lose in their conference tournament championship, I think X gets the top two seed.

It'll be fun to watch it play out!
If Xavier wins out until the Big East championship versus Nova (assuming a respectable margin there), Iowa and Michigan State are not a threat.

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[bjf123]

Well damn. I did not want the #5 ranking. We've had it twice before and promptly lost the next game. Oh well. Third time's the charm.


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[PM Thor]

Both the AP and Coaches pools are Big-5 circle jerks.

After looking at UVAs losses, who they played, and then see them jump 5 spots to pass X, all you can do is laugh. What a joke.

[brownlavender]

Virginia just lost again, but somehow north Carolina jumps us for the one seed according to Joe lunardi. I just don't understand the lack of respect for us. after we win Wednesday it will be hard to deny where this team should be ranked!

[xukeith]

Virginia just lost again, but somehow north Carolina jumps us for the one seed according to Joe lunardi. I just don't understand the lack of respect for us. after we win Wednesday it will be hard to deny where this team should be ranked!

Be happy Lunardi is not on Selection Comittee.

Now X is a solid 2 seed.

Need more top 50 wins (Top 20 wins) to be #1 seed.
Starts Wednesday night!!!!!!!

[Xville]

Virginia just lost again, but somehow north Carolina jumps us for the one seed according to Joe lunardi. I just don't understand the lack of respect for us. after we win Wednesday it will be hard to deny where this team should be ranked!

It sucks but I think it's because we just don't have a top ten, heck right now not even a top 20 win. If i was a non partial observer and looking at our wins...what's the best one right now? Dayton or providence? They dont really move the needle. Have to beat nova is what it comes down to.

[IM4X]

It sucks but I think it's because we just don't have a top ten, heck right now not even a top 20 win. If i was a non partial observer and looking at our wins...what's the best one right now? Dayton or providence? They dont really move the needle. Have to beat nova is what it comes down to.

Even if we beat Nova, there are sure to be a number of blowhard B10/Big12/ACC loving analyst who will chose not to give X the respect and instead suggest, "It appears Nova just wasn't worthy of being so highly ranked."

Just look at how much more coverage a lower ranked North Carolina or Kentucky or Duke team get's when they lose than an X or Nova team gets when they win (while in the top ranked 8). Heck even Fox often covers those teams more.

[LA Muskie]

So...what are we going to complain about when we're not being "disrespected" anymore?


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[UCGRAD4X]

So...what are we going to complain about when we're not being "disrespected" anymore?

Can't wait to find out...

First, it's not going to happen until Xavier is in at least one final four - and even then it will come reluctantly from many corners (I'm thinking, oh, just off the top of my head...Bristol, Connecticut).

I think they are getting quite a bit. But for now, and probably for a while (ever, for some) is it enough?

[XUFan09]

So...what are we going to complain about when we're not being "disrespected" anymore?


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That's easy. We will start complaining about not receiving the proper bias due to us. "I know our resume is that of a 3 seed, but I think our historical performance has earned us a 2 seed."

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[muskiefan82]

That's easy. We will start complaining about not receiving the proper bias due to us. "I know our resume is that of a 3 seed, but I think our historical performance has earned us a 2 seed."

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That, and the "I can't believe the ACC isn't calling trying to bring X onboard"

[X-ceptional]

So...what are we going to complain about when we're not being "disrespected" anymore?


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Just redefine what it means to be "disrespected" ... ?

[Emp]

Im going to see MSU at Ohio State tonight. Then down to see Muskies vs Nova on Wed. College basketball is t he greatest when good teams and good coaches match up. Rankings and "respect" are not as important to me as the men in the arena, striving in real time, body and soul, passionately.

[X Factor]

striving in real time, body and soul, passionately.

Are you talking about basketball?

[D-West & PO-Z]

ESPN Power Rankings:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings

#5

as high as 3 by Greenberg and O'Neil

as low as 8 by Brennan

[IM4X]

ESPN Power Rankings:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/powerrankings

#5

as high as 3 by Greenberg and O'Neil

as low as 8 by Brennan

Oh Brennan... Will you ever learn?

[xukeith]

Miami Fl jumps to # 11 just by beating Virginia at home?
If X wins, then the power rankings have to give X #1. lol

[xu82]

Miami Fl jumps to # 11 just by beating Virginia at home?
If X wins, then the power rankings have to give X #1. lol

OR.....they will say we beat Nova, so Nova can't be that good....and we lost badly to them the first time....so we both drop. That's how much sense this crap makes! (Well, almost.)

[paulxu]

Mid week recap

1 Nova -1
2 Kans +1
3 Virg -1
3 Okla +1
5 Xav +1
6 MSU +1
7 UNC +1
8 Iowa -1
9 Ariz -1
10 Mary

Updated

[paulxu]

Through Sat. 0=1 win and 1 loss

1 Nova 0
2 Kans +2
3 Virg 0
3 Okla 0
5 Xav +1 (Sunday game)
6 MSU +1 (Sunday game)
7 UNC 0
8 Iowa -1
9 Ariz -2
10 Mary -1

Need the win tomorrow to move up.

[Snipe]

It would be beneficial for Xavier University to win their game tomorrow.

[xu82]

It would be beneficial for Xavier University to win their game tomorrow.

There you go.....trying to create controversy again. Hope you don't get banned for this one.

[Snipe]

I speak truth to power!

[Xavier]

I would guess with all the mess in the top 10- X will be 6 tomorrow. Could be 7.

[GoMuskies]

I think we'll stand pat at 5.

[Xavier]

Yeah, I would say 5/6, worst case 7.

[LA Muskie]

Kansas at #1. Fuck if I could guess the rest.


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[THRILLHOUSE]

Kansas at #1. Fuck if I could guess the rest.


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Yeah, very difficult to guess what order 2 - 10 will be this week. I'll predict:

1. Kansas
2. Michigan State
3. Villanova
4. Virginia
5. Oklahoma
6. Xavier

Edit - but really could arrange any of the teams behind Kansas in the top 10 any order an I wouldn't be surprised.

[RoseyMuskie]

Should be 5 - assuming MSU wins, they'll jump X, but OK should slip below us. But with how the polls have worked, I wouldn't be shocked if that weren't the case. Could also see UNC jumping X (shouldn't though).

[xukeith]

I say 6.

[Caveat]

I expect 6/7. You can't take a loss at Seton Hall and expect to remain pat, no matter how good your other win was.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Should be 5 - assuming MSU wins, they'll jump X, but OK should slip below us. But with how the polls have worked, I wouldn't be shocked if that weren't the case. Could also see UNC jumping X (shouldn't though).

Pollsters love Oklahoma, so wouldn't surprise me if they stay above X. Agreed that UNC shouldn't jump X though. 8 of the top 10 teams lost this week, gonna be a tough task to figure out the top 25 this week.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I expect 6/7. You can't take a loss at Seton Hall and expect to remain pat, no matter how good your other win was.

Yep. Especially in the way X lost today.

[bjf123]

I'm going with 7.


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[xudash]

Going with 6.

[markchal]

8, but 6-7 if voters didn't have an anti-BE bias.

[xavierj]

I expect 6/7. You can't take a loss at Seton Hall and expect to remain pat, no matter how good your other win was.

You do realize seton hall has 3 less losses than xavier, and is 22-7, right? They were also playing at home. Why cant you take a loss there? If it was Oklahoma or UNC, they would move up.

[Snipe]

I would guess 6. Michigan State is going to jump us, but that is it.

6 Michigan State won twice and should move up.
7 North Carolina had a loss
8 Iowa had a loss
9 Arizona lost both games
10 Maryland had a loss
11 Louisville had a loss
12 Miami had two big wins

Is it possible Miami passes us and we are 7th? Sure, wouldn't surprise me because nothing really does with rankings.

But I don't see it. Most of these teams are going to end up largely where they started. You can bank on Michigan State passing us.

So I would bet on 6. That ain't so bad going into the last week of the season.

[Caveat]

You do realize seton hall has 3 less losses than xavier, and is 22-7, right? They were also playing at home. Why cant you take a loss there? If it was Oklahoma or UNC, they would move up.

The way the rankings usually work, you get punished for losing to unranked teams. It's as simple as that.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I would guess 6. Michigan State is going to jump us, but that is it.

6 Michigan State won twice and should move up.
7 North Carolina had a loss
8 Iowa had a loss
9 Arizona lost both games
10 Maryland had a loss
11 Louisville had a loss
12 Miami had two big wins

Is it possible Miami passes us and we are 7th? Sure, wouldn't surprise me because nothing really does with rankings.

But I don't see it. Most of these teams are going to end up largely where they started. You can bank on Michigan State passing us.

So I would bet on 6. That ain't so bad going into the last week of the season.

Yeah Miami is the one team outside of the Top 10 that should make a big jump since they knocked off 2 top 11 teams this week. I think they'll still be a spot or 2 behind X, but also wouldn't surprise me if they are above X either.

[paulxu]

Through Sunday. 0=1 win and 1 loss

1 Nova 0
2 Kans +2
3 Virg 0
3 Okla 0
5 Xav 0
6 MSU +2
7 UNC 0
8 Iowa -1
9 Ariz -2
10 Mary -1

We should stay 5th since we beat #1. Probably 6th.

[XUMIOH12]

tough to say what will happen in the polls this week. I bet we drop a spot. Voters will look at the loss on Sunday more than the win over villanova

[XMuskieFTW]

I've seen ballots of 2, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, and 7. Maybe we will stay 5.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I've seen ballots of 2, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, and 7. Maybe we will stay 5.

2? LOL. Which voter submitted that poll? Guessing he created it before Sunday's games and didn't bother changing it.

[XMuskieFTW]

2? LOL. Which voter submitted that poll? Guessing he created it before Sunday's games and didn't bother changing it.

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2016/02/tyson_algers_ap_top_25_mens_ba_13.html

He has us and Nova 2-3 but no seton hall ranked lol

[XUMIOH12]

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2016/02/tyson_algers_ap_top_25_mens_ba_13.html

He has us and Nova 2-3 but no seton hall ranked lol

he must not watch any games

[UCGRAD4X]

The way the rankings usually work, you get punished for losing to unranked teams. It's as simple as that.

But, some teams get more punished than others. I think that's a quote from George Orwell's Basketball Farm

[xubrew]

You do realize seton hall has 3 less losses than xavier, and is 22-7, right? They were also playing at home. Why cant you take a loss there? If it was Oklahoma or UNC, they would move up.

I think you meant to say that Seton Hall has three MORE losses than Xavier.

But, anyway, you do realize that if you were to ask any of the voters what Seton Hall's home record is that they probably wouldn't be able to tell you, right??

Hell, if you asked them to remember off the top of their head who the home team was, I'd say at least half of them wouldn't even know the answer to that. Voters don't watch the games, or take into account where a game was played. They just look to see if you won or lost. If you lose to an unranked team, they drop you. If you lose to a ranked team, they drop you. Hell, if you lose on the road to a team that's ranked higher than you are, they sometimes still drop you.


tough to say what will happen in the polls this week. I bet we drop a spot. Voters will look at the loss on Sunday more than the win over villanova

Probably so. Except the ones that voted before the game, and then made no changes after the game. Which, I assure you, some of them probably did.


he must not watch any games

Most voters don't. The coaches watch their own games, and the games of the teams they play. The media watches the games that they cover.

[THRILLHOUSE]

still #5 in the coaches poll

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/

[nuts4xu]

still #5 in the coaches poll

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/

Awesome.

[Xavier_Musketeers]

still #5 in the coaches poll

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/

Seton Hall is receiving votes, I wish they were ranked

[BMoreX]

SHU should be ranked; surprised we stayed at 5.

[xu2002]

SHU should be ranked; surprised we stayed at 5.

Unfortunately it's the coaches poll. Dayton is still receiving votes, which is hard to imagine with their last few weeks. They might sneak in the AP poll.

[Lamont Sanford]

On a side note, has anyone looked at the names of the coaches voting in the AP poll? Coaches from powerhouse hoops programs like Yale, Denver, Army, St. Francis Brooklyn, Wofford, UC Santa Barbara, Akron, Iona, and Tulane make up the list of 32 voters. Very odd.

[LoveHoops]

On a side note, has anyone looked at the names of the coaches voting in the AP poll? Coaches from powerhouse hoops programs like Yale, Denver, Army, St. Francis Brooklyn, Wofford, UC Santa Barbara, Akron, Iona, and Tulane make up the list of 32 voters. Very odd.

Each conference gets a coach to vote in the poll. There are always going to be plenty of terrible schools voting in the poll.

[xubrew]

Each conference gets a coach to vote in the poll. There are always going to be plenty of terrible schools voting in the poll.

Exactly. The coach's poll has always been one coach per conference. At least it's been that way for as long as I can remember.

[XMuskieFTW]

Providence still being at 30 in the coaches is a bit baffling to me. They've been horrendous.

[Xavier_Musketeers]

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll

still 5

[GoMuskies]

I think we'll stand pat at 5.

I win the Internet!

[OTRMUSKIE]

How is Hall not ranked? I am totally done with these rankings. Oklahoma loses again and is still 6th? WHAT A FN JOKE!!! Joey Donuts has UNC a one seed yet ranked 8th. VD still has votes? Didn't Virginia lose and win? Why do they move up?

[THRILLHOUSE]

Didn't Virginia lose and win? Why do they move up?

Virginia didn't move up, they were #3 last week and are now #4.

[XUFan09]

UVA lost a close road game to a really good Miami team, and then won a close home game against an even better UNC team. Overall, I think they've had a better week than Xavier.

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[Xaveriana]

I hope I'm not alone. Very happy that Xavier is still at #5 in both polls. Just win! Great time to be a Muskie!

[X-ceptional]

still #5 in the coaches poll

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/



http://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll

still 5


Wait... so is the sky falling, or what?

[Xavier]

Wait... so is the sky falling, or what?

I don't think the majority were really mad. Just felt like a major opportunity was missed- which it was.

[XUMIOH12]

5 is about right. If we beat Seton Hall could have expected 2-3. At least we didnt drop

[paulxu]

Through Sunday. 0=1 win and 1 loss

Results

1 Nova 0 3

2 Kans +2 1

3 Virg 0 4

3 Okla 0 6

5 Xav 0 5

6 MSU +2 2

7 UNC 0 8
8 Iowa -1
9 Ariz -2
10 Mary -1

The fact that we moved ahead of Okla is a little surprising. The won at home, lost to a ranked Texas on the road.
So, I guess they gave more weight to us beating #1, even though at home and our road loss was to an unranked team.

[X-band '01]

A lot of Xavier's votes were for #5 and #6 this week, but there were quite a few for #3 and #4 as well. Just on paper alone, beating then-#1 Villanova and losing to an NCAA Tournament caliber team on the road is a pretty good week.

[GoMuskies]

The managers are #25. Surprising that they've only played two games so far, though.

http://www.kpisports.net/rankings/d-i-mens-basketball-managers/

[smileyy]

A lot of Xavier's votes were for #5 and #6 this week, but there were quite a few for #3 and #4 as well. Just on paper alone, beating then-#1 Villanova and losing to an NCAA Tournament caliber team on the road is a pretty good week.

Yeah -- Ken Pomeroy had the game as a push. The "Lost to an unranked team" isn't that illustrative of a narrative in this case.

[XUFan09]

Yeah -- Ken Pomeroy had the game as a push. The "Lost to an unranked team" isn't that illustrative of a narrative in this case.
Yep. Xavier shouldn't have lost the way they did, but the game itself wasn't a bad loss. It's not like going to Georgetown, Marquette, Wake Forest, DePaul, or St. John's. Those are games you better win, but Seton Hall is better than those teams.

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[THRILLHOUSE]

The latest USA Today bracket is a favorable one for X - http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2016/03/01/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-projecting-68-teams-march-madness/81146304/

*edit* woops, meant to post this in one of the 100 bracket projection posts on here. whatever, it's here now.

[XMuskieFTW]

The latest USA Today bracket is a favorable one for X - http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2016/03/01/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-projecting-68-teams-march-madness/81146304/

Would love to see that bracket.

[letskeepitreal]

Yup, would love to get this bracket

[xukeith]

Would love to see that bracket.

I don't see Oklahoma as a 1 seed. Maybe but they have to get to finals of B12.

Kansas is clearly the overall #1 seed.

[X-Fan]

The latest USA Today bracket is a favorable one for X - http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2016/03/01/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-projecting-68-teams-march-madness/81146304/

*edit* woops, meant to post this in one of the 100 bracket projection posts on here. whatever, it's here now.

Not the most difficult bracket, but Wiscy, Texas, and Utah are teams I wouldn't want to face in the tourney. Wiscy & Utah are really starting to hit their groove the last few weeks. Also, Wiscy (as a potential 2nd Rd opponent) has extensive tourney experience from their last two seasons. Texas has been dangerous at times and could get their big man back for the tourney. I think X could matchup decently with Virginia, but their D could cause a lot of issues. I know there's no perfect bracket, but ideally X will get teams that they matchup well with (who aren't playing their best ball).

[XMuskieFTW]

Not the most difficult bracket, but Wiscy, Texas, and Utah are teams I wouldn't want to face in the tourney. Wiscy & Utah are really starting to hit their groove the last few weeks. Also, Wiscy (as a potential 2nd Rd opponent) has extensive tourney experience from their last two seasons. Texas has been dangerous at times and could get their big man back for the tourney. I think X could matchup decently with Virginia, but their D could cause a lot of issues. I know there's no perfect bracket, but ideally X will get teams that they matchup well with (who aren't playing their best ball).

I would LOVE to play Wiscy second round. One of my good friend's favorite team is Wisconsin so I end up watching about 15-20 of their games a year. They are not that good. Nigel Hayes(their "best" player) has become a volume scorer and shoots like 35%. Koenig runs the point decently and can shoot the 3. Happ is a solid freshman post, but James and Jalen would completely overwhelm him. Their other two starters are pretty mediocre and I doubt would even crack the rotation if they played for us. Their bench is extremely underwhelming too. I'd take that second round matchup in a heartbeat.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Not the most difficult bracket, but Wiscy, Texas, and Utah are teams I wouldn't want to face in the tourney. Wiscy & Utah are really starting to hit their groove the last few weeks. Also, Wiscy (as a potential 2nd Rd opponent) has extensive tourney experience from their last two seasons. Texas has been dangerous at times and could get their big man back for the tourney. I think X could matchup decently with Virginia, but their D could cause a lot of issues. I know there's no perfect bracket, but ideally X will get teams that they matchup well with (who aren't playing their best ball).

Texas doesn't worry me too much. And not just saying that because of last night's game vs Kansas. I've seen most of their games, obviously they are capable of beating good teams, but I think X's 1-3-1 would give them fits because their offense rely's on Taylor's ability to drive to the basket. Currently Taylor is dealing with some really bad plantar fasciitis, so that's not a positive development for the Horns. And I don't think Ridley will play again. According to Shaka he still hasn't been able to run or jump yet. At last night's game during Senior ceremonies he was still walking with a limp.

Utah is playing very well right now, so I agree that would be a tough sweet 16 matchup, but of course typically aren't too many easy ones at that point in the tourney.

[Xuperman]

If our defense doesn't improve immediately, my concern would be the 1st round match up in any bracket! This particular scenario would be a good example of that.

[xukeith]

Agree. Defense is X's problem in the BE.
Is that because teams know us well here? We will see.

[xavierj]

The 1-3-1 will be a major problem for teams not use to seeing it. Take Oklahoma for example. They rely so much on beating their man, one on one to the basket, that i think they would really struggle against the 1-3-1. Xavier only let up more than 70 points twice in the non conference and both were wins, so I am not too concerned. Teams struggled against the 1-3-1 last year in the tourney as well. Even Arizona really struggled with it.

[GoMuskies]

I'm afraid Hield would put up 50 against the 1-3-1. I'd also be afraid of him putting up 50 against our man-to-man, in fairness.

[bleedXblue]

We must have given up at least 15-20 baskets primarily as layups against both Gtown and Seton Hall. The word is out that we aren't all that athletic and the word is out that we don't really have tremendously athletic big guys who can block shots either. I was waiting for someone on Sunday to actually play a little more physically at the rim........at least send a message that if you're going to try and get to the rim, someone's gonna be there.

[X Factor]

We must have given up at least 15-20 baskets primarily as layups against both Gtown and Seton Hall. The word is out that we aren't all that athletic and the word is out that we don't really have tremendously athletic big guys who can block shots either. I was waiting for someone on Sunday to actually play a little more physically at the rim........at least send a message that if you're going to try and get to the rim, someone's gonna be there.

I agree our interior post defense is not that good. Jalen and James just aren't good post defenders one on one. You would think Jalen would be with his length, but he gives up a lot of easy post baskets.

I think UNC would destroy us in the post with their bigs. I want to avoid them until at least the Final Four.

In the NCAA tournament, our 1-3-1 will give teams fits because they've never seen it and haven't had time to prepare for it, so I think it will work well.

[xu82]

I'm afraid Hield would put up 50 against the 1-3-1. I'd also be afraid of him putting up 50 against our man-to-man, in fairness.

The difference in my mind is that against the 1-3-1 he might get his 50 in the first half then get to rest up for the next game in the second half. It might take him an entire game to get 50 against man.

[IM4X]

I don't see Oklahoma as a 1 seed. Maybe but they have to get to finals of B12.

Kansas is clearly the overall #1 seed.

Yeah... I don't get.

Oklahoma lost 4 of their last 8 games. Two of the losses were by more than 10 points. No question they are a good team, but should be a 2 seed at best.

Both Virgina and MSU seem much more deserving at this point. Heck, as poorly as X played on Sunday, they are still more deserving than OU.

Seton Hall deserves to ranked in the top 25. I wouldn't be surprised if they won a few games in the NCAA tournament. Even possibly knocking off a 2 or 3 seed.

[IM4X]

We must have given up at least 15-20 baskets primarily as layups against both Gtown and Seton Hall. The word is out that we aren't all that athletic and the word is out that we don't really have tremendously athletic big guys who can block shots either. I was waiting for someone on Sunday to actually play a little more physically at the rim........at least send a message that if you're going to try and get to the rim, someone's gonna be there.

Yeah, X sure didn't give much effort on Sunday. Not with rebounding. Not anywhere really.

It's painful to watch because this X team has proven they can indeed be more physical on defense and smarter on offense. In the Nova game, X players were all over the court, smothering Nova players, playing like they'd all just downed a few shots of espresso. Against SH, they looked like they just woke up with a hang over. Myles, Trevon, Ed and even Jalen often stood around watching as Seton Hall players blew by them or crashed the boards or hustled for a loose balls. Sumner rarely drove to the basket and when he did he couldn't finish or get defenders to make contact. In 30 minutes of play, he had 3 points 3 Turnover and 2 assists. Yikes.

No, the SH loss can't be chalked up to X just having an "off game" after a big win. This talented X team seems to coast through games lackadaisically after coming off wins where they feel like they've proven themselves. JP and Farr seem to be the only two exceptions who seem to see the importance of bringing it almost every minute of every game they play. The lose itself to SH is not so bad (SH is a solid team who could win a few games in the NCAA tournament), but the effort given by most of the X players was frankly pathetic.

• No team effort by X players to crash the boards - Almost always 1 X player fighting for a rebound against 3 SH players.
• Too many lazy passes.
• No jump in their step to challenge on defense (like we saw in the Villanova game).
• No hustle to get back on defense.

The turnover where Myles couldn't handle the pass on offense by Remy followed by Myles, Trevon and Farr just standing still instead of hustling back on defense (where one of them very likely could have gotten the rebound off the missed layup by the SH player) says everything you need to know about this team's mental state for the game: They just simply didn't care enough about this game (or didn't get enough rest).

When the 1-3-1 is not working well for X, it's often simply because the players are standing around passively like they did Sunday instead of aggressively smothering and using their height and long arms to clog any openings. If X can be very successful with the 1-3-1 against Nova, they should be able to be successful with it against just about any team. Just gotta play like they want it more.

[xukeith]

Yeah, X sure didn't give much effort on Sunday. Not with rebounding. Not anywhere really.

It's painful to watch because this X team has proven they can indeed be more physical on defense and smarter on offense. In the Nova game, X players were all over the court, smothering Nova players, playing like they'd all just downed a few shots of espresso. Against SH, they looked like they just woke up with a hang over. Myles, Trevon, Ed and even Jalen often stood around watching as Seton Hall players blew by them or crashed the boards or hustled for a loose balls. Sumner rarely drove to the basket and when he did he couldn't finish or get defenders to make contact. In 30 minutes of play, he had 3 points 3 Turnover and 2 assists. Yikes.

No, the SH loss can't be chalked up to X just having an "off game" after a big win. This talented X team seems to coast through games lackadaisically after coming off wins where they feel like they've proven themselves. JP and Farr seem to be the only two exceptions who seem to see the importance of bringing it almost every minute of every game they play. The lose itself to SH is not so bad (SH is a solid team who could win a few games in the NCAA tournament), but the effort given by most of the X players was frankly pathetic.

• No team effort by X players to crash the boards - Almost always 1 X player fighting for a rebound against 3 SH players.
• Too many lazy passes.
• No jump in their step to challenge on defense (like we saw in the Villanova game).
• No hustle to get back on defense.

The turnover where Myles couldn't handle the pass on offense by Remy followed by Myles, Trevon and Farr just standing still instead of hustling back on defense (where one of them very likely could have gotten the rebound off the missed layup by the SH player) says everything you need to know about this team's mental state for the game: They just simply didn't care enough about this game (or didn't get enough rest).

When the 1-3-1 is not working well for X, it's often simply because the players are standing around passively like they did Sunday instead of aggressively smothering and using their height and long arms to clog any openings. If X can be very successful with the 1-3-1 against Nova, they should be able to be successful with it against just about any team. Just gotta play like they want it more.

They partied too hard after VU win

[IM4X]

They partied too hard after VU win

Yup. That's very possible.

[xuwin]

Yeah, X sure didn't give much effort on Sunday. Not with rebounding. Not anywhere really.

It's painful to watch because this X team has proven they can indeed be more physical on defense and smarter on offense. In the Nova game, X players were all over the court, smothering Nova players, playing like they'd all just downed a few shots of espresso. Against SH, they looked like they just woke up with a hang over. Myles, Trevon, Ed and even Jalen often stood around watching as Seton Hall players blew by them or crashed the boards or hustled for a loose balls. Sumner rarely drove to the basket and when he did he couldn't finish or get defenders to make contact. In 30 minutes of play, he had 3 points 3 Turnover and 2 assists. Yikes.

No, the SH loss can't be chalked up to X just having an "off game" after a big win. This talented X team seems to coast through games lackadaisically after coming off wins where they feel like they've proven themselves. JP and Farr seem to be the only two exceptions who seem to see the importance of bringing it almost every minute of every game they play. The lose itself to SH is not so bad (SH is a solid team who could win a few games in the NCAA tournament), but the effort given by most of the X players was frankly pathetic.

• No team effort by X players to crash the boards - Almost always 1 X player fighting for a rebound against 3 SH players.
• Too many lazy passes.
• No jump in their step to challenge on defense (like we saw in the Villanova game).
• No hustle to get back on defense.

The turnover where Myles couldn't handle the pass on offense by Remy followed by Myles, Trevon and Farr just standing still instead of hustling back on defense (where one of them very likely could have gotten the rebound off the missed layup by the SH player) says everything you need to know about this team's mental state for the game: They just simply didn't care enough about this game (or didn't get enough rest).

When the 1-3-1 is not working well for X, it's often simply because the players are standing around passively like they did Sunday instead of aggressively smothering and using their height and long arms to clog any openings. If X can be very successful with the 1-3-1 against Nova, they should be able to be successful with it against just about any team. Just gotta play like they want it more.

You could write a post like this about every team in the top 10 except maybe for Kansas. Xavier's record of 25-4 still tops the country along with Villanova. Xavier hasn't lost a game yet when their backs were to the wall. Three of the four games that Xavier has lost were against teams with their backs to the wall who had much more to lose.

[IM4X]

You could write a post like this about every team in the top 10 except maybe for Kansas. Xavier's record of 25-4 still tops the country along with Villanova. Xavier hasn't lost a game yet when their backs were to the wall. Three of the four games that Xavier has lost were against teams with their backs to the wall who had much more to lose.

Yes, I completely agree with your post.

SH played like a team that really needed to win on Sunday. Losing to them is not so concerning. As mentioned above, I think they are solid enough to win multiple games in the NCAA Tournament.

What concerns me is that X played like a team that didn't care if it won or lost. Maybe it was because they felt it was not a critical game to win–one not worth expending the extra energy. Goodness I hope it's the last time they play that way this year.

[scoscox]

Jalen needs to block more shots. He doesn't even challenge it sometimes which is a shame cause he would be a spectacular shot blocker I don't know why he doesn't

[Masterofreality]

Jalen needs to block more shots. He doesn't even challenge it sometimes which is a shame cause he would be a spectacular shot blocker I don't know why he doesn't

Afraid of fouling.

[scoscox]

Afraid of fouling.

I'd be okay with that foul though. With Jalen's athleticism he could block a lot of shots. His rim defense is not what it could be.

[XUMIOH12]

Jalen needs to block more shots. He doesn't even challenge it sometimes which is a shame cause he would be a spectacular shot blocker I don't know why he doesn't

he just isnt a good shot blocker. Blocking shots is mostly about anticipation and timing. Some guys have it, some dont.

[XUMIOH12]

he just isnt a good shot blocker. Blocking shots is mostly about anticipation and timing. Some guys have it, some dont.

Xavier hasnt had a good shot blocker in a long time either.

[TUclutch]

Jalen needs to block more shots. He doesn't even challenge it sometimes which is a shame cause he would be a spectacular shot blocker I don't know why he doesn't

If he could, he would. Not everyone is just a great defender/shot blocker at the rim. I don't want him trying to do things he can't. Trying to actively block more shots would be asking bad Jalen to play and lead to more fouls

[xuwin]

he just isnt a good shot blocker. Blocking shots is mostly about anticipation and timing. Some guys have it, some dont.

You don't even have to block them. Just contest them enough to eliminate the easy layups.

[DoubleD86]

You don't even have to block them. Just contest them enough to eliminate the easy layups.

Again, being a rim protector is a skill not an athletic feat. It takes anticipation, movement, timing and great body control. If you try to be a rim protector without that skill, you are likely going to foul and foul a lot. College players know how to take advantage of someone who will contest but isn't good at it.

[XUMIOH12]

You don't even have to block them. Just contest them enough to eliminate the easy layups.

hes not necessarily great at that either.

[XUMIOH12]

Again, being a rim protector is a skill not an athletic feat. It takes anticipation, movement, timing and great body control. If you try to be a rim protector without that skill, you are likely going to foul and foul a lot. College players know how to take advantage of someone who will contest but isn't good at it.

exactly. if you arent a good shot blocker, but try to block a lot of shots, you are just going to end up getting called for a bunch of fouls.

[D-West & PO-Z]

So for seeding and ranking on Saturday we need to cheer on the following teams:

Ohio State
TCU
Iowa State
Virginia Tech
Duke
USC
Louisville

[X-man]

Cheering for tOSU, Dook, and Loserville is too big a stretch.

[xuwin]

So for seeding and ranking on Saturday we need to cheer on the following teams:

Ohio State
TCU
Iowa State
Virginia Tech
Duke
USC
Louisville

I will not be cheering for Ohio State

[D-West & PO-Z]

So for seeding and ranking on Saturday we need to cheer on the following teams:

Ohio State---lost
TCU------lost
Iowa State-------lost
Virginia Tech------won
Duke----------- TBD
USC ----------lost
Louisville---------TBD

Not great results so far but love that VaTech won. Miami was on a run.

Really hoping Louisville can win @UVA

[xukeith]

Not great results so far but love that VaTech won. Miami was on a run.

Really hoping Louisville can win @UVA

Miami getting blown out helps X:
http://bracketmatrix.com/

Go Duke!Go Cards!

[GoMuskies]

It probably helps that tonight is Louisville's national title game.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It probably helps that tonight is Louisville's national title game.

Yeah good point. Are they allowed to play in ACC tourney?

[GoMuskies]

Yeah good point. Are they allowed to play in ACC tourney?

Nope. Tonight is it for them.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Nope. Tonight is it for them.

Lets make it a good one Cards.

[paulxu]

Saturday night recap. 0 = 1 win/1 loss

1 Kans +2
2 MSU +2
3 Nova +2
4 Virg +2
5 Xav +1
6 Okla +2
7 Miami 0
8 UNC +2
9 Oreg +2
10 WVa +2

I guess we were the only top 10 team with only 1 game this week.

[Masterofreality]

For what it's worth, we are still 5th in the USA Today Coaches Poll.

[XUOWNSUC]

For what it's worth, we are still 5th in the USA Today Coaches Poll.

Still 5th in both polls:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

[paulxu]

Stayed about the same except for Miami dropping off for losing one, replaced by Indiana at 10.

[D-West & PO-Z]

To get a 1 seed I believe we need the following to happen:

1. Obviously win the BE tourney. (Not sure though if winning will have us replace Nova or someone else would jump in there, or if both could be 1's)
2. Hope for UNC and/or UVA early flame out of ACC tourney or at least not win it to open the door.
3. Hope for Mich St. to do the same, either lose early or at least not win it.

I think KU is almost a lock for a 1 seed no matter what.

Nova, UNC, and UVA are all vulnerable of losing a 1 seed. I think that would leave us and Mich St. with best chance to grab a 1seed if there is a slip up so we want Mich St to slip up too.

OU hasnt been playing well but if they tear through the Big 12 tourney and win (especially if they beat KU) then I think they could get back to a 1, so lets hope that doesnt happen either.

Most importantly makes number 1 happen and lets see what happens.

[X-man]

Looking back on the season, Xavier moved into the AP rankings in the 11/23 poll and the USAToday rankings in the 11/30 poll. We were ranked in the top 10 in both the 12/14 polls and have stayed there, with the exception of one week at #12 in the 1/4 USA poll, ever since. It has been a great season so far and I expect the fun to continue for at least three more weeks.

[GoMuskies]

I think if we win the Big East Tournament we are likely to get a #1 seed no matter what else happens. We'll take Nova's spot. The winner of the Big East Tournament (so long as it's Xavier or Villanova), the winner of the ACC Tournament, Kansas and Michigan State.

[XUMIOH12]

To get a 1 seed I believe we need the following to happen:

1. Obviously win the BE tourney. (Not sure though if winning will have us replace Nova or someone else would jump in there, or if both could be 1's)
2. Hope for UNC and/or UVA early flame out of ACC tourney or at least not win it to open the door.
3. Hope for Mich St. to do the same, either lose early or at least not win it.

I think KU is almost a lock for a 1 seed no matter what.

Nova, UNC, and UVA are all vulnerable of losing a 1 seed. I think that would leave us and Mich St. with best chance to grab a 1seed if there is a slip up so we want Mich St to slip up too.

OU hasnt been playing well but if they tear through the Big 12 tourney and win (especially if they beat KU) then I think they could get back to a 1, so lets hope that doesnt happen either.

Most importantly makes number 1 happen and lets see what happens.

yeah if you're wanting Xavier to get a 1 seed, then you want Kansas to win the Big 12; and Xavier must win the conference tournament. Would also really have to hope for chaos in the ACC tourney.

[XUMIOH12]

I think if we win the Big East Tournament we are likely to get a #1 seed no matter what else happens. We'll take Nova's spot. The winner of the Big East Tournament (so long as it's Xavier or Villanova), the winner of the ACC Tournament, Kansas and Michigan State.

Do you think it would be enough for Xavier to get a 1 seed if they win the BET, but don't even play Nova? I hope we get a 1 seed in that scenario, but i could see Xavier getting passed over in that scenario too.

[GoMuskies]

Do you think it would be enough for Xavier to get a 1 seed if they win the BET, but don't even play Nova? I hope we get a 1 seed in that scenario, but i could see Xavier getting passed over in that scenario too.

That is certainly a possibility. Particularly given Xavier's lower ranking according to advanced metrics. But I think Villanova will be there, and if they are, and if we beat them, I think a #1 is forthcoming.

[XUMIOH12]

That is certainly a possibility. Particularly given Xavier's lower ranking according to advanced metrics. But I think Villanova will be there, and if they are, and if we beat them, I think a #1 is forthcoming.

I agree with that scenario. If we beat nova to win it, it would be tough to not get a 1 seed. I too, would be surprised if Nova wasnt in the finals.

[XUFan09]

I agree with that scenario. If we beat nova to win it, it would be tough to not get a 1 seed. I too, would be surprised if Nova wasnt in the finals.
This finals matchup also leaves open the possibility of there being two 1 seeds from the Big East. Other things would have to happen too, but at a minimum, Xavier and Villanova would have to meet. Since Villanova won the regular season title, I imagine Xavier would also have to win the finals matchup.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah all interesting scenarios. All moot if we dont win it but I'm hoping we do and we get to find out. I agree if we win it and Nova is who we beat we get the 1 seed.

[xukeith]

I don't understand UNC's resume for a 1 seed.
They only have 3 wins against top 50.
and a losing record against top 50.

Yes they play in ACC but UVA is the real team with a good resume.
I see Oklahoma, Oregon, and Michigan St as competitors for last 1 seed.

[XU '11]

Do you think it would be enough for Xavier to get a 1 seed if they win the BET, but don't even play Nova? I hope we get a 1 seed in that scenario, but i could see Xavier getting passed over in that scenario too.

I think so because then we could jump Nova due to their loss to Georgetown/Butler/Providence.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think so because then we could jump Nova due to their loss to Georgetown/Butler/Providence.

But Xavier winning out the tourney might not look as impressive and they could put UNC/UVA both as 1's if they meet and play a close one in finals. Or OU might be able to jump to 1 seed if they beat KU in Big12.

Lots to play out but I like our chances if we win BE tourney.

[xukeith]

But Xavier winning out the tourney might not look as impressive and they could put UNC/UVA both as 1's if they meet and play a close one in finals. Or OU might be able to jump to 1 seed if they beat KU in Big12.

Lots to play out but I like our chances if we win BE tourney.

I think UVillanova is a lock for #1 seed unless lose in first BE game.

I still don't see UNC attractiveness. Tarheels only 3-6 against top 50.

[blueblob06]

I don't understand UNC's resume for a 1 seed.
They only have 3 wins against top 50.
and a losing record against top 50.

Yes they play in ACC but UVA is the real team with a good resume.
I see Oklahoma, Oregon, and Michigan St as competitors for last 1 seed.

ESPN is obsessed with UNC and I have no idea how they could be a #1 seed if you look at their resume versus the other top teams in the mix.

[Xavier]

I don't see how Nova would be a lock for a 1 seed. Same record as X, 1-1 head to head. Not to mention they really don't have a big win outside of Xavier- I think X had a better OOC.


*I am going to go ahead with this post- but I did start to think they probably have a lot better computer numbers (KenPom, etc.) Regardless, X is pretty much a 2 seed unless they win it over Nova or lose Thursday night.

[X-band '01]

North Carolina's resume isn't a 1-seed RIGHT NOW, but that will likely change if they get the double in the ACC. They would have to go through either Duke or Notre Dame in the semis and then Virginia or Miami in the championship. Those are 2 monster wins that would help the Heels.

Xavier would be going through Marquette, Seton Hall and Villanova. Even that might not be enough if North Carolina and Oklahoma win their tournaments this week (to say nothing of Michigan State).

However, if Oklahoma loses to Iowa State in their opener, then they're probably locked into the 2-line. Or the overall #1 seed.

[XUFan09]

I think UVillanova is a lock for #1 seed unless lose in first BE game.

I still don't see UNC attractiveness. Tarheels only 3-6 against top 50.
Villanova didn't have a strong OOC showing, so I wouldn't call them a lock in those circumstances.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah all the UNC as #1 seed is predicated on them winning the ACC tourney.

[sgarcia]

North Carolina's resume isn't a 1-seed RIGHT NOW, but that will likely change if they get the double in the ACC. They would have to go through either Duke or Notre Dame in the semis and then Virginia or Miami in the championship. Those are 2 monster wins that would help the Heels.

Xavier would be going through Marquette, Seton Hall and Villanova. Even that might not be enough if North Carolina and Oklahoma win their tournaments this week (to say nothing of Michigan State).

However, if Oklahoma loses to Iowa State in their opener, then they're probably locked into the 2-line. Or the overall #1 seed.

Notre Dame = Seton Hall. UVA/Miami = Nova. UNC won't jump us if we both win conference tourneys.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Notre Dame = Seton Hall. UVA/Miami = Nova. UNC won't jump us if we both win conference tourneys.

Depending on who you are looking at they wont have to jump us. Lunardi has UNC a 1 seed right now. Maybe that is off but I cant see the committee not giving the regular and tourney ACC champs a 1 seed.

[SkyWalker]

Villanova didn't have a strong OOC showing, so I wouldn't call them a lock in those circumstances.

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Villanova did just fine in OOC. They lost twice (Oklahoma in Hawaii and Virginia in Charlotesville). Those are top 6 teams. They pretty much hammered everyone else they played. In conference, they lost to the #5 team. I think Villanova for is a lock for a number 1 seed unless we beat them in the Big East finals. I doubt the Big East will get two number 1 seeds.

[sgarcia]

Depending on who you are looking at they wont have to jump us. Lunardi has UNC a 1 seed right now. Maybe that is off but I cant see the committee not giving the regular and tourney ACC champs a 1 seed.

They are a 1 seed as of now but it's tougher to gauge winning a regular season conference title now with unbalanced schedules. They played Duke, Cuse, NC St and BC twice. Not exactly murderers row.

[Mel Cooley XU'81]

Interesting to see who ranks X where. (http://www.collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/xu/2015)

[xukeith]

They are a 1 seed as of now but it's tougher to gauge winning a regular season conference title now with unbalanced schedules. They played Duke, Cuse, NC St and BC twice. Not exactly murderers row.

Again right now only 3 wins and 6 losses against the top rpi 50 teams. No good enough INMO

[paulxu]

Again right now only 3 wins and 6 losses against the top rpi 50 teams. No good enough INMO

I see them at 3-5 against the top 50 RPI right at this moment.

X on the other hand is showing at 9-2. That's a pretty big difference.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Not that I think UNC should be ahead of us but I guess a UNC supporter would say all 3 of those wins are top 25 wins and 4 of their 6 losses are against top 25 teams, another is vs a top 50 team and their worst loss is #75 UNI.

They also appear to have less of their wins come from against the sub 150 group. I think they have 13 top 100 wins.

[bobbiemcgee]

Did they beat every team on their schedule?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Did they beat every team on their schedule?

No they did not. Case closed!

[XUFan09]

Villanova did just fine in OOC. They lost twice (Oklahoma in Hawaii and Virginia in Charlotesville). Those are top 6 teams. They pretty much hammered everyone else they played. In conference, they lost to the #5 team. I think Villanova for is a lock for a number 1 seed unless we beat them in the Big East finals. I doubt the Big East will get two number 1 seeds.
Most of the other team's they hammered were crappy teams. Looking again, though, both St. Joe's and Temple were road wins. It's good timing that those Big 5 matchups were both on the road this year, rather than LaSalle and Penn, who both are really bad. Beating Temple at home wouldn't have been seen as worth mentioning and beating St. Joe's at home would have been just a mildly noteworthy win. On the road, however, those are good wins.

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[sgarcia]

Not that I think UNC should be ahead of us but I guess a UNC supporter would say all 3 of those wins are top 25 wins and 4 of their 6 losses are against top 25 teams, another is vs a top 50 team and their worst loss is #75 UNI.

They also appear to have less of their wins come from against the sub 150 group. I think they have 13 top 100 wins.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/ranking-the-contenders-to-earn-a-no--1-seed-in-the-ncaa-tournament-183111822.html

[D-West & PO-Z]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/ranking-the-contenders-to-earn-a-no--1-seed-in-the-ncaa-tournament-183111822.html

Yeah they didnt say anything I didnt. If UNC wins the ACC touney they will get a 1 seed. If they dont they wont.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Donny Marshall picked us to beat Nova in BE finals, Lavin picked Nova.

[nuts4xu]

The loss to Seton Hall cost us a few spots in this week's AP poll, down to #9.

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll

[X-band '01]

Hard to find fault with that when you consider 5 of those teams either won their conference regular season or tournament title.

Countdown before OTR's head explodes over Oklahoma being above us again?