Wake newspaper article...

[xavierj]

I kind of think this article is a little bush league....

http://www.fayobserver.com/sports/bret-strelow-xavier-delivers-final-blows-as-wake-turns-wobbly/article_a03edc82-a92c-11e5-a49a-2779806d7b83.html

[XUFan09]

That article was kinda embarrassing.

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[Boro Muskie]

I agree, probably the reason this "journalist" is a staff writer at the Fay Observer.
However, it did clear up the whole who's barking question...

[OTRMUSKIE]

regardless of Xavier’s long-term reputation.

giving this nonconference matchup more of a Cincinnati-branded, Queen City feel

What the hell are these to quotes supposed too mean?

[murray87]

That idiot is in love with the word 'feisty'. I think he'd be better off covering something like the Westminster Dog Show.

[xubrew]

Most media is bush league. In fact, very little of it is not. My advice is to not let bush league individuals in a predominantly bush league industry to consume any part of your day. Just shrug and move on.

[flagship]

I found it near impossible to read. The article jumps around so much and barely puts two coherent thoughts together. Barely made any sense. I think thats more embarrassing than the actual childish "feisty" tone.

[xunorm]

In other words, both teams played with an edge, but one knows how to win and kept it's composure. The End

[GoMuskies]

I kind of think this article is a little bush league....

http://www.fayobserver.com/sports/bret-strelow-xavier-delivers-final-blows-as-wake-turns-wobbly/article_a03edc82-a92c-11e5-a49a-2779806d7b83.html

Living in Fayette-Nam surely warps one's brain.

[Celtic1888]

What a f'd up article....I get the feeling he is hurting...ah well. Zip 'em up.

[sirthought]

Clearly a young writer. He's trying to put in too much color. Referencing the brawl at this point is such a hack move.

[LadyMuskie]

The only thing missing from that article was a reference to "northern aggression". Good God. Did Bret write that in his smoking jacket and ascot, looking out over the fields daydreaming about the good ole days?

In any event, it does make me feel indignant, so it has that going for it.

[xudash]

The better article.

http://www.journalnow.com/sports/wfu/basketball/second-half-struggles-ruin-wake-s-upset-bid-against-xavier/article_85ca99a6-50bd-5b4b-9dfc-ffd5aebabd1e.html?mode=jqm

[UCGRAD4X]

I kind of think this article is a little bush league....

http://www.fayobserver.com/sports/bret-strelow-xavier-delivers-final-blows-as-wake-turns-wobbly/article_a03edc82-a92c-11e5-a49a-2779806d7b83.html

I thought maybe it was a fashion piece.

"Reynolds even revealed he was not a fan of the logo placement on the Deacs' shorts during his profanity-laced exchange."

[XUFan09]

In other words, both teams played with an edge, but one knows how to win and kept it's composure. The End
I liked how he tried to imply that the tension was because of Xavier and had nothing to do with some of their own players...

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[Drew]

lol, wow. You can definitely tell he is salty about the loss. Oh well.

[Masterofreality]

In any event, it does make me feel indignant, so it has that going for it.

#Indignant. #Branding

[Xu Red Dogg]

I enjoyed this response...

@AirJesuit:
.@bretstrelow, your articles about the Xavier Wake game were a joke. @EiserXUSports should reject your credential request next year.

[scoscox]

Most media is bush league. In fact, very little of it is not. My advice is to not let bush league individuals in a predominantly bush league industry to consume any part of your day. Just shrug and move on.

Truer words have never been spoken.

[UCGRAD4X]

The better article.

http://www.journalnow.com/sports/wfu/basketball/second-half-struggles-ruin-wake-s-upset-bid-against-xavier/article_85ca99a6-50bd-5b4b-9dfc-ffd5aebabd1e.html?mode=jqm

“That’s all we heard at halftime, that they were going to come out and punch us in the mouth,’’ freshman John Collins. “And they did."

I wonder if, perhaps, Manning over-emphasized this point. What with the obvious reputation Xavier seems to have, maybe they thought he was being literal.

And by that I mean literally literal, not figuratively literal. You know, for real.

[xu82]

“That’s all we heard at halftime, that they were going to come out and punch us in the mouth,’’ freshman John Collins. “And they did."

I wonder if, perhaps, Manning over-emphasized this point. What with the obvious reputation Xavier seems to have, maybe they thought he was being literal.

And by that I mean literally literal, not figuratively literal. You know, for real.

....or was it literally figurative???

A better article (the writer may have even graduated from high school already!), and I was glad to see Mack give them some credit for our difficulties. That is apparently a concept they are literally unfamiliar with.

[XU-PA]

....or was it literally figurative???

A better article (the writer may have even graduated from high school already!), and I was glad to see Mack give them some credit for our difficulties. That is apparently a concept they are literally unfamiliar with.

Figuratively speaking

[nasdadjr]

Really? Jalen had a 20 second profanity laced tirade that by this guys account would make the devil blush but he got no technical foul? What is this hack/ sore loser/ hack/hack and did I mention hack talking about?

[xuwin]

Really? Jalen had a 20 second profanity laced tirade that by this guys account would make the devil blush but he got no technical foul? What is this hack/ sore loser/ hack/hack and did I mention hack talking about?

Interesting though that he was the only one of all the media that covered the game that seemed to have heard it. Was this a giant cover up?

[bobbiemcgee]

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[JTG]

For Gods sake folks, the article was written to cater to the Wake audience. I've never figured out why so many people on here rush to other team's newspaper and message boards all the time. And if people in n other media reference the Xavier edginess, maybe it's, because some people insist on the continuing to use that stupid ass juvenile "Zip em up" term. Just enjoy the fact that we are one great team, that the national media thinks very highly of. Merry Christmas, enjoy the season

[Masterofreality]

For Gods sake folks, the article was written to cater to the Wake audience. I've never figured out why so many people on here rush to other team's newspaper and message boards all the time. And if people in n other media reference the Xavier edginess, maybe it's, because some people insist on the continuing to use that stupid ass juvenile "Zip em up" term.

By some people, you mean former Xavier Basketball stars?

"@SemajChriston: I got the body bags custom MADE IN Italy #ZipEmUp"

Lighten up Francis.

[JTG]

[QUOTE=Masterofreality;527002]By some people, you mean former Xavier Basketball stars?

"@SemajChriston: I got the body bags custom MADE IN Italy #ZipEmUp"

Lighten up Francis.[/QUOTE
Have you ever seen a body bag, it's not pretty. Its a stupid fucking term , that makes our fanbase like like a bunch ignorant shit brains.

[PM Thor]

regardless of Xavier’s long-term reputation.

What the Hell is that supposed to mean exactly? You mean a program that has moved from the MCC to the A10 to the BE, all the while keeping the same level of winning over that period? A program that has consistently had 25 wins a year for decades?

Hack.

[xavierj]

For Gods sake folks, the article was written to cater to the Wake audience. I've never figured out why so many people on here rush to other team's newspaper and message boards all the time. And if people in n other media reference the Xavier edginess, maybe it's, because some people insist on the continuing to use that stupid ass juvenile "Zip em up" term. Just enjoy the fact that we are one great team, that the national media thinks very highly of. Merry Christmas, enjoy the season

I have never visited a wake message boad. A local guy lance mcalister posted articles from the game and this was the one he posted from Wakes coverage. I thought it was bush league. He was the one who posted the zip em up stuff and some crazy stuff about jalen. I thought it was weak and he should have talked more about the actual game. Sorry if you are offended that i think it was bush league.

[XUFan09]

regardless of Xavier’s long-term reputation.

What the Hell is that supposed to mean exactly? You mean a program that has moved from the MCC to the A10 to the BE, all the while keeping the same level of winning over that period? A program that has consistently had 25 wins a year for decades?

Hack.
Yeah, I interpreted that one of two ways:

1) Unlike the others mentioned, Xavier isn't a blueblood, but the author isn't exactly a wizard with words when trying to set up a contrast as to why the game was still a big deal.

2) The author actually views Xavier as some upstart mid major, making him a moron.

Either way, he's a hack.

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[Masterofreality]

Yeah, I interpreted that one of two ways:

1) Unlike the others mentioned, Xavier isn't a blueblood, but the author isn't exactly a wizard with words when trying to set up a contrast as to why the game was still a big deal.

2) The author actually views Xavier as some upstart mid major, making him a moron.

Either way, he's a hack.

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Because, you know, Wake has all those Final Fours and Elite 8's recently.

Errr, Wake has one Final Four- in 1962- and Xavier has more Sweet 16's in the last 8 years (5) than Wake does in the last 30 (4).

Yeah, who's the mid-major?

[blobfan]

The only thing missing from that article was a reference to "northern aggression". Good God. Did Bret write that in his smoking jacket and ascot, looking out over the fields daydreaming about the good ole days?

In any event, it does make me feel indignant, so it has that going for it.

Don't forget discussion of how much better the Wake Forest Way is. Although I think that was in the subtext. Darned Xavier players misbehaving!

Truth is, I'm pretty impressed with how well our team seems to do in avoiding bitter tussles we've seen in the past. This team seems focused on the business at hand. Zipping up opponents is just part of the job and not an excuse for strutting.

[Juice]

Don't forget discussion of how much better the Wake Forest Way is. Although I think that was in the subtext. Darned Xavier players misbehaving!

Truth is, I'm pretty impressed with how well our team seems to do in avoiding bitter tussles we've seen in the past. This team seems focused on the business at hand. Zipping up opponents is just part of the job and not an excuse for strutting.

McClinton was following Jalen after a few plays to try to piss him and get him a T. McClinton is a p*ssy.

[Cheesehead]

For Gods sake folks, the article was written to cater to the Wake audience. I've never figured out why so many people on here rush to other team's newspaper and message boards all the time. And if people in n other media reference the Xavier edginess, maybe it's, because some people insist on the continuing to use that stupid ass juvenile "Zip em up" term. Just enjoy the fact that we are one great team, that the national media thinks very highly of. Merry Christmas, enjoy the season

I am immature. I love Zip'em Up

[UCGRAD4X]

Because, you know, Wake has all those Final Fours and Elite 8's recently.

Errr, Wake has one Final Four- in 1962- and Xavier has more Sweet 16's in the last 8 years (5) than Wake does in the last 30 (4).

If we're going back that far, just a few short years earlier Xavier won the NIT (the first Ohio D1 school to win a post season tourney).

I have been told by 'old-timers' the NIT was a much more prestigious tourney at the time (or is that a bit of revisionist history?).

So, there is that.

[xudash]

If we're going back that far, just a few short years earlier Xavier won the NIT (the first Ohio D1 school to win a post season tourney).

I have been told by 'old-timers' the NIT was a much more prestigious tourney at the time (or is that a bit of revisionist history?).

So, there is that.

Before my time, too, but, though the NCAA Tournament had surpassed it in prestige by then, it was still a big deal to win it back then. The NCAA Tournament was not exactly what it is today, or even what it had become as recently as the mid-80's.

[xu82]

Before my time, too, but, though the NCAA Tournament had surpassed it in prestige by then, it was still a big deal to win it back then. The NCAA Tournament was not exactly what it is today, or even what it had become as recently as the mid-80's.

Which is, in my opinion, the best event in all of sport*. Which is why it shocked me that football was so slow to put in a playoff system. Nothing to lose and everything to gain. Bowl games didn't lose anything, a few just became relevant!

*with apologies to the World Cup

[X-Men]

He sounds like a petulant child.

[vee4xu]

I didn't read the articles linked to the thread, but read all of the thread posts. But, I don't need to read them to know enough that Wake Forest is the Fordham of the ACC. This team is a second rate team in its own conference. How many national championships have they won again? The only big names out of there are Duncan and Paul. They are a run-of-the-mill team that has trouble competing in the upper tier of their own conference. The fact that X came back and beat them after being down 18 is similar to what X would have done versus Fordham or Duquesne in the A-10. When WF can be mentioned in the same breath as UNC, UVA and Duke, then nudge me. Then, I might be interested in what their small town papers may have to say about X. Until then, get better WF and give yourself some reason to justify your arrogance!

[X-band '01]

I didn't read the articles linked to the thread, but read all of the thread posts. But, I don't need to read them to know enough that Wake Forest is the Fordham of the ACC. This team is a second rate team in its own conference. How many national championships have they won again? The only big names out of there are Duncan and Paul. They are a run-of-the-mill team that has trouble competing in the upper tier of their own conference. The fact that X came back and beat them after being down 18 is similar to what X would have done versus Fordham or Duquesne in the A-10. When WF can be mentioned in the same breath as UNC, UVA and Duke, then nudge me. Then, I might be interested in what their small town papers may have to say about X. Until then, get better WF and give yourself some reason to justify your arrogance!

As good as Duncan was for Wake Forest, you're badly underestimating what Rodney Rogers and Randolph Childress brought to the table for Wake. Without Childress, Wake went from an Elite 8 team to one that couldn't get past the 2nd round in Tim Duncan's senior season.

[XUMIOH12]

that article was worthless

[sirthought]

The only big names out of there are Duncan and Paul.

Only the two big names? Pshaw! Wake has enjoyed several great college level players who went on to be solid NBA players.

Al-Farouq Aminu
James Johnson
Ishmael Smith
Jeff Teague (who was awesome last season)
Muggsy Bogues
Josh Howard
Randolph Childress
Rusty LaRue
Rodney Rogers
Darius Songaila

There are more going back further. Rodney Rogers was seriously the man in the NBA for a couple years until an injury.

[vee4xu]

Only the two big names? Pshaw! Wake has enjoyed several great college level players who went on to be solid NBA players.

Al-Farouq Aminu
James Johnson
Ishmael Smith
Jeff Teague (who was awesome last season)
Muggsy Bogues
Josh Howard
Randolph Childress
Rusty LaRue
Rodney Rogers
Darius Songaila

There are more going back further. Rodney Rogers was seriously the man in the NBA for a couple years until an injury.

Oh yeah, those are absolutely the same league of names of Duncan and Paul. I am so stupid!! :rolleyes:

[LadyMuskie]

For Gods sake folks, the article was written to cater to the Wake audience. I've never figured out why so many people on here rush to other team's newspaper and message boards all the time. And if people in n other media reference the Xavier edginess, maybe it's, because some people insist on the continuing to use that stupid ass juvenile "Zip em up" term. Just enjoy the fact that we are one great team, that the national media thinks very highly of. Merry Christmas, enjoy the season

You call those of us who use the phrase "zip 'em up" stupid ass juveniles while also putting down those who wanted to read the Wake Forest Media's take on the game. Yet your post is littered with typos and errors typical of a juvenile. I'm not sure if that's Karma coming round to bite you in the rear end or what.

(And to be clear, I don't really care if people make errors while typing on a message board, but if you're going to put others down in your post, know how use punctuation properly.)

[JTG]

You call those of us who use the phrase "zip 'em up" stupid ass juveniles while also putting down those who wanted to read the Wake Forest Media's take on the game. Yet your post is littered with typos and errors typical of a juvenile. I'm not sure if that's Karma coming round to bite you in the rear end or what.

(And to be clear, I don't really care if people make errors while typing on a message board, but if you're going to put others down in your post, know how use punctuation properly.)

Fair enough on the typos. My point was that people read the other team's newspaper and message boards, and then are outraged when they don't fall all over themselves about Xavier. What does one suppose Wake, UD, or any other opponents fans think when they come here. Fans are fans, they view things thru the colored glasses of their team.

[xavierj]

Fair enough on the typos. My point was that people read the other team's newspaper and message boards, and then are outraged when they don't fall all over themselves about Xavier. What does one suppose Wake, UD, or any other opponents fans think when they come here. Fans are fans, they view things thru the colored glasses of their team.

I agree with you and have not visited a website or newspaper of any team Xavier has played. This was posted by a local media guy and the things in the article were really BS in my opinion. If the guy blasted Xavier for how they played lazy in the first half or that they were overrated I would have had no problem at all. I thought him trying to make Xavier look like thugs was a hack job.

[Kahns Krazy]

I tried to read some of that article. It's just hard to read. Regardless of the subject matter, this is just flat out clumsy writing.
Xavier, trailing by 17 points in the last 10 seconds of the half, scored on a late tip and needed only 6 minutes, 17 seconds to take a second-half lead. Flustered and not focused on an inside-out approach, Wake shot 2-for-14 from 3-point range after the break.

I watched the game and I'm having a hard time understanding what he is trying to describe.


On Wake's next possession, without giving up the ball, Crawford was called for a questionable charge - it was probably at least a walk - as he put his head down and drove toward the rim.

Without giving up the ball? Huh? It was a questionable charge but it was at least a walk? Wha?

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[Musketeer]

at this point, who cares about this crappy article.

[XfansinKy]

You call those of us who use the phrase "zip 'em up" stupid ass juveniles while also putting down those who wanted to read the Wake Forest Media's take on the game. Yet your post is littered with typos and errors typical of a juvenile. I'm not sure if that's Karma coming round to bite you in the rear end or what.

(And to be clear, I don't really care if people make errors while typing on a message board, but if you're going to put others down in your post, know how use punctuation properly.)
Should there be a comma between your words game and yet, or a period? I really don't know.

[xu82]

I now i've ben guilty off some light nite fouls, so ill not bash on thy grammar opps (at this time)

[XfansinKy]

I now i've ben guilty off some light nite fouls, so ill not bash on thy grammar opps (at this time)

Late night, one too many, and a Bengals loss equals my dumb post as a grammar cop.

[UCGRAD4X]

at this point, who cares about this crappy article.

Oh, we're WAY beyond that now. It's not the article itself per se, but the state of our education system and the moral and intellectual degradation of society in general.

After all, this board is just a reflection of all that is holy in the eternal struggle between good and evil (I'll leave it to others to decide who is on which side of that equation).