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94GRAD
12-20-2015, 10:58 AM
No one can match our depth, length, quickness, athleticism, speed and experience. Everyone needs to embrace how truly great we are.

Kahns Krazy
12-20-2015, 11:04 AM
I will not get tired of this at all:

http://www.xavierhoops.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1874&d=1450627311

XU 87
12-20-2015, 11:32 AM
I'm not ready to declare X the best in the nation, but this team is really, really good. And there is no doubt that this is team is among the best in the country.

And there is also no doubt- this team has size, athleticism, speed, depth, a bunch of guys who can shoot threes, a bunch of guys who simply have very good basketball skills, a bunch of guys who play hard, a bunch of guys who play well together, and a bunch of guys who are very unselfish. The player and ball movement on offense is really great to watch. The team is very well coached.

Let's keep rolling.

scoscox
12-20-2015, 11:37 AM
But still, you should support them like they are anyway. Hell, if we can't even get respect from our own fans we'll never get respected by the media or the country. Half the reason a lot of teams keep their relevance is that the fans get indignant when they don't see their teams getting love. Xavier should adopt that philosophy.

XU 87
12-20-2015, 11:41 AM
But still, you should support them like they are anyway. Hell, if we can't even get respect from our own fans we'll never get respected by the media or the country. Half the reason a lot of teams keep their relevance is that the fans get indignant when they don't see their teams getting love. Xavier should adopt that philosophy.

If your post is directed at me, come and meet me some time at a game (if you go the games) and we'll see who supports this team more.

What a dumbass post - do you really think it's a "lack of respect" to say "this team is among one of the best in the country"?

Xavier
12-20-2015, 11:43 AM
Wait, if I don't believe X is the best team in the nation then I don't respect them? Huh?

drudy23
12-20-2015, 12:09 PM
We're very good. I'm not saying our schedule has been weak by any means, but we haven't played a true top tier team yet. We've played some good teams and beat them.

We probably won't get that chance until the tournament (hopefully we get that chance), but that worries me a bit. Nothing much else to complain about.

XU 87
12-20-2015, 12:12 PM
[QUOTE=drudy23;525768], but we haven't played a true top tier team yet. QUOTE]

You obviously don't read the Dayton message board.

STL_XUfan
12-20-2015, 12:14 PM
I'm not ready to declare X the best in the nation, but this team is really, really good. And there is no doubt that this is team is among the best in the country.

And there is also no doubt- this team has size, athleticism, speed, depth, a bunch of guys who can shoot threes, a bunch of guys who simply have very good basketball skills, a bunch of guys who play hard, a bunch of guys who play well together, and a bunch of guys who are very unselfish. The player and ball movement on offense is really great to watch. The team is very well coached.

Let's keep rolling.

I agree that we haven't proven it yet, but if we are still undefeated on January 3rd, I will be screaming it from the rooftops.

XU 87
12-20-2015, 12:16 PM
I agree that we haven't proven it yet, but if we are still undefeated on January 3rd, I will be screaming it from the rooftops.

If we win at Wake and that at Nova............

LadyMuskie
12-20-2015, 06:57 PM
But still, you should support them like they are anyway. Hell, if we can't even get respect from our own fans we'll never get respected by the media or the country. Half the reason a lot of teams keep their relevance is that the fans get indignant when they don't see their teams getting love. Xavier should adopt that philosophy.
Is this meant to be a joke?

Xavier has one of the most indignant fan bases around. Most of us despise Jay Bilas because he crapped on us 6 years ago during the selection show. Pretty sure that if he lived around here, we'd have organized a mob to burn his house to the ground.

We have entire threads dedicated to the lack of respect we get when we aren't ranked, when the A10 refused to acknowledge our greatness with postseason awards, when people mispronounce our name, whenever that jackass Paul Daugherty writes an "article", when we notice a slight before, during or after amy pregame or post game analysis, etc.

I'm 100% certain when Sean Miller dies, a Xavier contingent will be at the funeral driving buicks walking pet raccoons on leashes.

We're not indignant enough? I'd hate to see us if we were more indignant. We'd be like my mother-in-law; impossible to please and completely psychotic.

Titanxman04
12-20-2015, 07:02 PM
If we win the next three, I'd be hard pressed to argue that we're one of the best.

However, THE best? That remains to be seen. WE have one of the best resumes in the country but I'd like to see us go at Nova first. Winning at Wake and then at Nova will have me thinking otherwise.

I'm cautiously optimistic that we can win the next three. But I'll take 2-1 in a heartbeat. Losing at Nova and winning at Wake and home against Butler would have me still showing that we're a top 10 team easily.

I want a 2 seed. A 1 seed is a dream right now given how tough the Big East is. A 3 seed would be just fine (beggars cannot be choosers).

Emp
12-20-2015, 07:06 PM
We're very good. I'm not saying our schedule has been weak by any means, but we haven't played a true top tier team yet. We've played some good teams and beat them.

We probably won't get that chance until the tournament (hopefully we get that chance), but that worries me a bit. Nothing much else to complain about.

This. Well, we have Butler, Nova and Providence on the road, those are top tier teams with good home arena support. If we win all those games, I'm ordering more koolade and buying a #1 foam finger. Win 2, I'll be demanding, demanding I say, more respect.

I know "No justice for X, no peace" appeals in certain quarters here. It's not relevant to me personally whether we're no 1 in a media poll. Watching one of the finest teams to ever put on Xavier units is its own reward.

GoMuskies
12-20-2015, 07:11 PM
I'm 100% certain when Sean Miller dies, a Xavier contingent will be at the funeral driving buicks walking pet raccoons on leashes.


This is an EXCELLENT idea. I'm certain it will be the cough that gets him, too.

LadyMuskie
12-20-2015, 07:47 PM
This is an EXCELLENT idea. I'm certain it will be the cough that gets him, too.

No doubt. Tuberculosis is a bitch!

XfansinKy
12-20-2015, 08:05 PM
Yea, although it's one game at a time, if it leads to wins at Wake, at Nova and Butler we are the best team in the nation. Not a doubt. That's a huge task though even for whoever the best in the nation is.

Masterofreality
12-20-2015, 08:14 PM
Is this meant to be a joke?

Xavier has one of the most indignant fan bases around. Most of us despise Jay Bilas because he crapped on us 6 years ago during the selection show. Pretty sure that if he lived around here, we'd have organized a mob to burn his house to the ground.

We have entire threads dedicated to the lack of respect we get when we aren't ranked, when the A10 refused to acknowledge our greatness with postseason awards, when people mispronounce our name, whenever that jackass Paul Daugherty writes an "article", when we notice a slight before, during or after amy pregame or post game analysis, etc.

I'm 100% certain when Sean Miller dies, a Xavier contingent will be at the funeral driving buicks walking pet raccoons on leashes.

We're not indignant enough? I'd hate to see us if we were more indignant. We'd be like my mother-in-law; impossible to please and completely psychotic.

This is an incredible and outstanding post. Public and private reps.

xdude
12-20-2015, 08:24 PM
Among the best, surely, easily. Deepest X team ever? Yes. But I believe there's a little tournament to determine the best team in the country. Enjoy this folks, this is very special...

xu82
12-20-2015, 08:34 PM
If your post is directed at me, come and meet me some time at a game (if you go the games) and we'll see who supports this team more.

What a dumbass post - do you really think it's a "lack of respect" to say "this team is among one of the best in the country"?

Friendly reminder, there is an ignore feature. I may brush up on it....

paulxu
12-20-2015, 08:39 PM
Up to #4 in Massey's ratings:

http://masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cb&sub=NCAA I

Nigel Tufnel
12-20-2015, 08:48 PM
Yeah... I'm usually a pretty grounded guy when it comes to Xavier's expectations. But this team has me feeling a little different. I know there will likely still be 2-3 head scratching losses during this marathon. But what has me thinking a little differently this year is that in the last two games, I don't think X has played all that well. Those were a 10 point win against UC and a 24 point win against Auburn. They did what needed to be done....but can you imagine what would happen if the entire team started playing well? It may never happen...but if it does? I give this team a really good chance of doing something really special.

XMuskieFTW
12-20-2015, 09:56 PM
This team has looked amazing so far. That being said, we have soooooooo much room for improvement. If we can keep Jalen in less foul trouble, have Remy start shooting like he did the previous two years, see Edmond continue to develop over the next few months, etc. I could see us winding up being the best team in the country. Maybe not most talented, but best. I think we are just beginning to scratch the surface of this team. We have an exciting 3 and a half months to come!

drudy23
12-20-2015, 10:13 PM
Just remember that we're likely going to have a slide...every team does.

xu82
12-20-2015, 10:16 PM
Just remember that we're likely going to have a slide...every team does.

Thank you, and it doesn't make you a bad person or fan to say so. A little adversity may be very good for us.

Xville
12-20-2015, 10:21 PM
The next three will tell a lot..lose 2 of 3 and we become just another team...win 2 or 3 and we may be looking at a very special team.

mid major
12-20-2015, 10:39 PM
This. Well, we have Butler, Nova and Providence on the road, those are top tier teams with good home arena support. If we win all those games, I'm ordering more koolade and buying a #1 foam finger. Win 2, I'll be demanding, demanding I say, more respect.

I know "No justice for X, no peace" appeals in certain quarters here. It's not relevant to me personally whether we're no 1 in a media poll. Watching one of the finest teams to ever put on Xavier units is its own reward.

EMP, we're at this again. Drink a Pisco sour. Pass on the koolaid. :)

xudash
12-20-2015, 10:47 PM
[QUOTE=drudy23;525768], but we haven't played a true top tier team yet. QUOTE]

You obviously don't read the Dayton message board.

Well done. The University of Delusion.

Masterofreality
12-21-2015, 09:28 AM
Is this meant to be a joke?

Xavier has one of the most indignant fan bases around. Most of us despise Jay Bilas because he crapped on us 6 years ago during the selection show. Pretty sure that if he lived around here, we'd have organized a mob to burn his house to the ground.

We have entire threads dedicated to the lack of respect we get when we aren't ranked, when the A10 refused to acknowledge our greatness with postseason awards, when people mispronounce our name, whenever that jackass Paul Daugherty writes an "article", when we notice a slight before, during or after amy pregame or post game analysis, etc.

I'm 100% certain when Sean Miller dies, a Xavier contingent will be at the funeral driving buicks walking pet raccoons on leashes.

We're not indignant enough? I'd hate to see us if we were more indignant. We'd be like my mother-in-law; impossible to please and completely psychotic.

Here's some indignancy!!

Xavier is #10 in the Nation going into the weekend. We beat a "major conference" team by 24 points.

There was NO mention or story of the Xavier game on either CBS Sports.com or ESPN.com on their college basketball front page. If it was Gone-zaga or an ESPN a pimped AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC property, it would be splashed all over the website and we'd probably be ranked #2 behind Michigan State this week.....but we won't be.

No matter what the hell we do, we NEVER get equal time. I don't know what the hell we have to do.

Win every damn game I guess.

muskiefan82
12-21-2015, 09:35 AM
Win every damn game I guess.

I select this option.

ammtd34
12-21-2015, 09:48 AM
X had 3 OOC losses last year with no really good OOC wins, then went 9-9 in the conference and got a 6 seed. Our OOC resumé is dramatically better this year, so it stands to reason that a 9-9 conference finish would be better than a 6 seed. Obviously, that would be disappointing. My point is that the opportunity for a great seed is right there.

Milhouse
12-21-2015, 09:52 AM
X had 3 OOC losses last year with no really good OOC wins, then went 9-9 in the conference and got a 6 seed. Our OOC resumé is dramatically better this year, so it stands to reason that a 9-9 conference finish would be better than a 6 seed. Obviously, that would be disappointing. My point is that the opportunity for a great seed is right there.

Last years committee also valued good wins much higher than losses (bad losses included). I dont know that 9-9 would yield the same results honestly...I also don't hope to find out.

Xville
12-21-2015, 09:53 AM
Here's some indignancy!!

Xavier is #10 in the Nation going into the weekend. We beat a "major conference" team by 24 points.

There was NO mention or story of the Xavier game on either CBS Sports.com or ESPN.com on their college basketball front page. If it was Gone-zaga or an ESPN a pimped AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC property, it would be splashed all over the website and we'd probably be ranked #2 behind Michigan State this week.....but we won't be.

No matter what the hell we do, we NEVER get equal time. I don't know what the hell we have to do.

Win every damn game I guess.

it was auburn...a team picked near the bottom of a terrible SEC. it really shouldn't move the needle.

Juice
12-21-2015, 09:53 AM
Here's some indignancy!!

Xavier is #10 in the Nation going into the weekend. We beat a "major conference" team by 24 points.

There was NO mention or story of the Xavier game on either CBS Sports.com or ESPN.com on their college basketball front page. If it was Gone-zaga or an ESPN a pimped AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC property, it would be splashed all over the website and we'd probably be ranked #2 behind Michigan State this week.....but we won't be.

No matter what the hell we do, we NEVER get equal time. I don't know what the hell we have to do.

Win every damn game I guess.

The Marquette SB Nation blog had a post on this using different but similar evidence.

www.anonymouseagle.com/2015/12/18/10618242/espns-bias-against-the-big-east-is-real

muskiefan82
12-21-2015, 09:58 AM
There are teams that X should not lose to in conference if they want to be "elite'. Frankly, X should go 8-0 vs. St. Johns, DePaul, Creighton, and Georgetown. They should probably sweep Marquette and Seton Hall as well. This leaves Villanova, Butler, and Providence as the only teams that X could lose to at THEIR place and still reasonably expect to keep a high ranking. I recognize that Marquette and Seton Hall are good teams, but #1 seed teams BEAT those teams. I know there will be one or two losses that make no sense, but I am hoping the win that we're not expecting comes next week against Villanova.

Masterofreality
12-21-2015, 09:59 AM
it was auburn...a team picked near the bottom of a terrible SEC. it really shouldn't move the needle.

Doesn't matter. Xavier is Top 10 and we weren't playing Southern Montana State of the Northlands.

It still Boolsheet.

sgarcia
12-21-2015, 10:01 AM
Here's some indignancy!!

Xavier is #10 in the Nation going into the weekend. We beat a "major conference" team by 24 points.

There was NO mention or story of the Xavier game on either CBS Sports.com or ESPN.com on their college basketball front page. If it was Gone-zaga or an ESPN a pimped AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC property, it would be splashed all over the website and we'd probably be ranked #2 behind Michigan State this week.....but we won't be.

No matter what the hell we do, we NEVER get equal time. I don't know what the hell we have to do.

Win every damn game I guess.

On Saturday morning they went through the top 10 teams games for the weekend. We were on the top since we were playing the earliest. ESPN skipped over that game but managed to mention every other top 10 team's game. It was quite comical. They must be so pissed off about the BE no longer being affiliated with the World Wide Leader.

Masterofreality
12-21-2015, 10:04 AM
The Marquette SB Nation blog had a post on this using different but similar evidence.

www.anonymouseagle.com/2015/12/18/10618242/espns-bias-against-the-big-east-is-real

Ok, doubters of my "ESPN Conspiracy Theory". What say you to that article, with evidence....and SGarcia's factoid above?

muskiefan82
12-21-2015, 10:06 AM
Xavier MUST beat Wake Forest into dust on Tuesday. If that happens AND that is not on ESPN, we will have the truth.

X-man
12-21-2015, 11:14 AM
Here's some indignancy!!

Xavier is #10 in the Nation going into the weekend. We beat a "major conference" team by 24 points.

There was NO mention or story of the Xavier game on either CBS Sports.com or ESPN.com on their college basketball front page. If it was Gone-zaga or an ESPN a pimped AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC property, it would be splashed all over the website and we'd probably be ranked #2 behind Michigan State this week.....but we won't be.

No matter what the hell we do, we NEVER get equal time. I don't know what the hell we have to do.

Win every damn game I guess.
And of course they are picking WFU to beat us tomorrow (link: http://sports.espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/109827/weekday-predictions-undefeated-teams-on-upset-alert). No particular reason, just that Xavier will lose eventually; talk about trenchant "analysis".

XUFan09
12-21-2015, 11:34 AM
I'm confused...He lists two teams that already lost yesterday. I'm guessing he was writing the article before they happened, but I don't understand why the editors didn't just cancel it.

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BMoreX
12-21-2015, 11:41 AM
Didn't last week I read an ESPN article that predicted our first loss to be at nova? Was that from the same author or different person?

X-man
12-21-2015, 11:41 AM
I'm confused...He lists two teams that already lost yesterday. I'm guessing he was writing the article before they happened, but I don't understand why the editors didn't just cancel it.

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Actually, he's either confused himself or badly misinformed...probably both.

THRILLHOUSE
12-21-2015, 12:55 PM
This Washington Post writer agrees with this Best in the Nation talk - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2015/12/21/xavier-might-be-the-best-team-in-college-basketball-no-really/?tid=sm_tw_ps

Nothing in there we don't already know, and he didn't mention how big the 1-3-1 zone has been, but still good to see at least one writer jumping on the bandwagon.

DoubleD86
12-21-2015, 03:05 PM
Ok, doubters of my "ESPN Conspiracy Theory". What say you to that article, with evidence....and SGarcia's factoid above?

In fairness, it has now been updated saying it was a technical problem and not a result of bias. Not that it will change anyone's mind either way.

D-West & PO-Z
12-21-2015, 03:21 PM
In fairness, it has now been updated saying it was a technical problem and not a result of bias. Not that it will change anyone's mind either way.

Seems odd though that the only conference there was a technical issue on was the BE.

Hmmmmmm.......

Masterofreality
12-21-2015, 03:36 PM
In fairness, it has now been updated saying it was a technical problem and not a result of bias. Not that it will change anyone's mind either way.

Ah, yes. blame the old unidentifiable and unblame-able "digital system glitch". :rolleyes:

XUFan09
12-21-2015, 03:50 PM
Yeah, I tend to believe technical glitches over conspiracy theories, but this one is just way too convenient for me not to be suspicious.

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94GRAD
12-22-2015, 10:48 PM
Would just like to reiterate this statement!!!

UCGRAD4X
12-23-2015, 06:53 AM
Would just like to reiterate this statement!!!

Definitely worth reiterating. What a way to spend the long Christmas break, with

The Best Team in the Nation