Mack to Fans: get Off Your Asses!

[Emp]

Wasn't at the game, working from the TV coverage on this one, but Coach Mack seemed to be having a WTF? Moment there at the end, waving the crowd to its feet.

I'm not an expert lip reader, it looked like "This is bullshit". Perhaps closer observers can shed more light.

In the process of finishing off a record start, feeling under appreciated? The crowd seemed pretty loud, if not Shootout intense. Any ideas on what was going on there?

[xuwin]

Wasn't at the game, working from the TV coverage on this one, but Coach Mack seemed to be having a WTF? Moment there at the end, waving the crowd to its feet.

I'm not an expert lip reader, it looked like "This is bullshit". Perhaps closer observers can shed more light.

In the process of finishing off a record start, feeling under appreciated? The crowd seemed pretty loud, if not Shootout intense. Any ideas on what was going on there?

Why not? It got a lot louder when he did that. I think he was imitating a Bruce Pearl tactic.

[paulxu]

Why not? It got a lot louder when he did that. I think he was imitating a Bruce Pearl tactic.

Payback for last year?

[xeus]

We were up 21 and at the line when he started that. It wasn't the most inspiring time to get people fired up.

I don't think it had anything to do with a record start - he was very clear in the postgame that it doesn't matter to him. I'm honestly not sure what it was about. I think it's probably time to start looking for a new coach if this behavior continues.

[bleedXblue]

The lower bowl crowd is generally pretty weak. I've been going to games at Cintas since it opened 15 years ago. I sure hope they get off their you know what's for the Butler's, Villanova's etc. Our crowd should be a competitive advantage!!

[xuwin]

The lower bowl crowd is generally pretty weak. I've been going to games at Cintas since it opened 15 years ago. I sure hope they get off their you know what's for the Butler's, Villanova's etc. Our crowd should be a competitive advantage!!

The average age of the crowd that can afford the lower bowl seats is pretty advanced. They are not likely to get rowdy.

[Porkopolis]

Yesterday was one of the quietest crowds I've been a part of at Cintas. It was Fordham or LaSalle level quiet. I loved it when Mack asked the crowd to get loud, because during the game I was asked to sit down multiple times (sitting in 200). It was a strange atmosphere but then again we were never really challenged...the game was essentially over by the time the lower bowl filled in a few minutes in.

[drudy23]

Gates was at the line at the time.I thought it was to get him an ovation for making a play (you know, Freshman not getting much playing time comes in and gets after it)...but I, too, though it was kinda odd.

[xu82]

Gates was at the line at the time.I thought it was to get him an ovation for making a play (you know, Freshman not getting much playing time comes in and gets after it)...but I, too, though it was kinda odd.

I agree, I thought it was more about the Gates play.

[brownlavender]

He was pissed about the game last year. Pearl acted a fool after that game and Mack wanted to give it back to him and then some for that game last year. I find it odd that people on here find it odd that he wanted to get the crowd going. What's odd about just beating the crap out of a team, avenging a bad loss from a year before, starting the season on a record start and asking for your fans to show the team some love? I loved every bit of it

[drudy23]

It's not odd he wanted to get the crowd going - the timing of when was the odd part.

But whatever...I dig it.

[STL_XUfan]

I agree, I thought it was more about the Gates play.
It was as he was shooting free throws too. I just figured Gates likes some noise while shooting the freebies.

[slysyl]

I think that was Gates first score at Xavier.

[XUFan09]

I think that was Gates first score at Xavier.
Gates has 18 points on the season.

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[GoMuskies]

Pearl had some words for Mack in his post game comments. He clearly thinks Mack's demonstrations late in the game relate back to last year's contest.

[XUFan09]

We were up 21 and at the line when he started that. It wasn't the most inspiring time to get people fired up.

I don't think it had anything to do with a record start - he was very clear in the postgame that it doesn't matter to him. I'm honestly not sure what it was about. I think it's probably time to start looking for a new coach if this behavior continues.
Lol

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[xavierj]

I think that was Gates first score at Xavier.

No not his first points.

[XfansinKy]

I tried to read lips too but I came up with, "Cmon this is boring". I don't blame him at all. His kids were playing hard 11 deep off the bench and it seemed like nobody was interested. I mean the media ignores us, the state, the city, but our home crowd shouldn't. I wasn't there though so I'm not complaining about the crowd. Just my interpretation.

[brownlavender]

Lol

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I thought the very same thing. Give me a break

[XU 87]

The crowd yesterday was dead. I personally liked it when Mack asked the crowd to make some noise after a good play.

[xubrew]

He was pissed about the game last year. Pearl acted a fool after that game and Mack wanted to give it back to him and then some for that game last year. I find it odd that people on here find it odd that he wanted to get the crowd going. What's odd about just beating the crap out of a team, avenging a bad loss from a year before, starting the season on a record start and asking for your fans to show the team some love? I loved every bit of it


Pearl had some words for Mack in his post game comments. He clearly thinks Mack's demonstrations late in the game relate back to last year's contest.

GOOD!! FANTASTIC NEWS!!!

I'm glad Pearl "acted a fool" last year. Hell, if that's what works, then do it! I'm glad it pissed Mack off, and that he dished it back to him this year. I'm also glad that he tried to engage an otherwise sedated crowd.

College basketball shouldn't be as boring as it's becoming. It never used to be. Nothing wrong with a little heat. Nothing at all! In fact, this is a reason to keep playing them!

[bleedXblue]

GOOD!! FANTASTIC NEWS!!!

I'm glad Pearl "acted a fool" last year. Hell, if that's what works, then do it! I'm glad it pissed Mack off, and that he dished it back to him this year. I'm also glad that he tried to engage an otherwise sedated crowd.

College basketball shouldn't be as boring as it's becoming. It never used to be. Nothing wrong with a little heat. Nothing at all! In fact, this is a reason to keep playing them!

Boring? Just curious what you mean?

[LA Muskie]

I tried to read lips too but I came up with, "Cmon this is boring". I don't blame him at all. His kids were playing hard 11 deep off the bench and it seemed like nobody was interested. I mean the media ignores us, the state, the city, but our home crowd shouldn't. I wasn't there though so I'm not complaining about the crowd. Just my interpretation.

The media ignores us??? I can't turn on a college game in which we're not mentioned as a national championship contender. (Not that I'm complaining...).


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[nasdadjr]

Xavier just announced a viagra giveaway for the next home game so all the blue hairs get off their arse and make a little noise next time!!

[THRILLHOUSE]

Throwing shade at the media for their BYU obsession last year. Wearing a Big East pullover vs. Dayton. And now imitating Pearl's antics. Mack has a sense of humor, I like it.

[Muskeagle]

I thought it was in reaction to referee related frustration. I'd have to go back and look at it (which I can't do for a couple of days as I'm not where the recording is), but I thought we had just been called for a couple of ticky tack foul and then someone on X got hammered and there was no call. I thought he started to argue and then sort of asked the fans to get involved a bit. That's why I thought he said the "This is bullshit" line after. I felt it was reacting to the refs, not the lack of fan involvement. I'd have to see it again, though to be more sure. It is what I felt at the time it happened.

[scoscox]

I tried to read lips too but I came up with, "Cmon this is boring". I don't blame him at all. His kids were playing hard 11 deep off the bench and it seemed like nobody was interested. I mean the media ignores us, the state, the city, but our home crowd shouldn't. I wasn't there though so I'm not complaining about the crowd. Just my interpretation.

That's basically the vibe I got as well. This is why coaches leave Xavier. This team is filthy good and the most exciting team to watch Xavier has ever had and instead of rewarding that with fans going nuts to support the team at the game, fans come on here and are incredulous that the coach tried to fire them up. Yes, it was a bad time to do it when Gates was shooting free throws, but fans should've been getting the Tas rocking the whole game more than it was, especially considering the absolute shellacking we were putting on a team that beat us last year. It's gotta be frustrating for Mack and you can see why coaches see a ceiling at Xavier. Fans have got to be more knowledgeable.

[XU 87]

It's gotta be frustrating for Mack and you can see why coaches see a ceiling at Xavier. Fans have got to be more knowledgeable.

While I agree Cintas was dead yesterday, let's not go overboard because Cintas wasn't rocking over a noon game, against Auburn, and in a game where X had a double digit lead virtually the entire game.

[THRILLHOUSE]

This is why coaches leave Xavier.

Oh please. Coaches have left X because schools like OSU and Arizona can pay more. (plus the OSU basketball game atmosphere is pretty weak for most games)

[Xavgrad08]

Brandon Marcello is the beat writer for Auburn. This is what he tweeted after the game. 
‏@bmarcello Bruce Pearl didn't sound happy with Xavier after the game. From Pearl's interview on Auburn radio: "You can tell by the way their bench acted they wanted this game real badly. I told coach Chris Mack after the game last year that was the biggest win we had and I am glad you respected the environment, but nobody tried to show you up".

As an outsider it looked like the conversation between Pearl and Mack after the game was a bit heated. Hope we can play them in another home and home because I think Bruce is going to do good things at Auburn.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Pearl had some words for Mack in his post game comments. He clearly thinks Mack's demonstrations late in the game relate back to last year's contest.

Do you mean at the hand shake? I was wondering what was being said there.

[XU 87]

Do you mean at the hand shake? I was wondering what was being said there.

I was watching the handshake and Pearl talking Mack's ear off. If Pearl was complaining about Mack trying to get the crowd fired up, what an f'ing whiner.

I will add that Myles Davis and James Farr both at times tried to get the crowd to be louder. Maybe Pearl should talk to them as well. In addition, I requested the refs give Pearl a "T" on several occasions since he screams at the refs after every single call or non-call. I'll send Pearl an email apologizing.

Who does this guy think he is? He got banned from the sport for lying to the NCAA and he's now at a low tier SEC school. And he wants to lecture Chris Mack about "the proper way to play the game" because Mack tried to get a dead crowd fired up? And he thinks "Mack tried to show him up?"

Please. He and Mick Cronin should get together to discuss their bruised feelings.

[MADXSTER]

That's basically the vibe I got as well. This is why coaches leave Xavier. This team is filthy good and the most exciting team to watch Xavier has ever had and instead of rewarding that with fans going nuts to support the team at the game, fans come on here and are incredulous that the coach tried to fire them up. Yes, it was a bad time to do it when Gates was shooting free throws, but fans should've been getting the Tas rocking the whole game more than it was, especially considering the absolute shellacking we were putting on a team that beat us last year. It's gotta be frustrating for Mack and you can see why coaches see a ceiling at Xavier. Fans have got to be more knowledgeable.

That's two dumb posts in a row. Are you trying to get negative reps?

[XU-PA]

exactly MADXSTER

lip reading on my end, the one word I think I caught just as Mack turned away from urging on the crowd was Bul%^hit.
and watching frm the comfort of my coach, Cintas did seem very very quiet for quite awhile.

[waggy]

Exam week crowd.

[X-man]

That's basically the vibe I got as well. This is why coaches leave Xavier. This team is filthy good and the most exciting team to watch Xavier has ever had and instead of rewarding that with fans going nuts to support the team at the game, fans come on here and are incredulous that the coach tried to fire them up. Yes, it was a bad time to do it when Gates was shooting free throws, but fans should've been getting the Tas rocking the whole game more than it was, especially considering the absolute shellacking we were putting on a team that beat us last year. It's gotta be frustrating for Mack and you can see why coaches see a ceiling at Xavier. Fans have got to be more knowledgeable.
I thought maybe coaches leave Xavier because the Cintas gets too loud like it was a week ago at the Shootout. What a dumbass comment.

[xumuskies08]

Good lord people will look for anything to whine about. Students drive the crowd. It was a noon tip the day after exam week ended against a mediocre opponent. I'm sure most students were either on their way home for break or still asleep. Forgive me for not being surprised the crowd wasn't at 100%

And give me a break about crowd noise being the reason coaches leave Xavier or that if Mack keeps waving arms we should look for a new coach. Like, are you fucking kidding me?

This thread makes my head hurt.

[TUclutch]

While I agree Cintas was dead yesterday, let's not go overboard because Cintas wasn't rocking over a noon game, against Auburn, and in a game where X had a double digit lead virtually the entire game.

What does a noon tip have to do with anything? If thats too early to be awake and loud, that's pretty sad. I do agree with students being gone having a little to do with it though.

[Xavier]

That's basically the vibe I got as well. This is why coaches leave Xavier. This team is filthy good and the most exciting team to watch Xavier has ever had and instead of rewarding that with fans going nuts to support the team at the game, fans come on here and are incredulous that the coach tried to fire them up. Yes, it was a bad time to do it when Gates was shooting free throws, but fans should've been getting the Tas rocking the whole game more than it was, especially considering the absolute shellacking we were putting on a team that beat us last year. It's gotta be frustrating for Mack and you can see why coaches see a ceiling at Xavier. Fans have got to be more knowledgeable.

Fans came on here to say they were confused as to why Mack would want the place going nuts during free throws. You respond by saying "This is why coaches leave Xavier....yeah, it was a bad time to do it when Gates is on the FT line.."

Like you said, fans have to be more knowledgeable.

[paulxu]

Throwing shade at the media for their BYU obsession last year. Wearing a Big East pullover vs. Dayton. And now imitating Pearl's antics. Mack has a sense of humor, I like it.

Heh! I'm just waiting till the fire is burning so damn hot (FF game) that he reaches deep into his bag of tricks and pulls out.........

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[Section 200]

What does a noon tip have to do with anything? If thats too early to be awake and loud, that's pretty sad. I do agree with students being gone having a little to do with it though.

I'd be a bit worried about our fan base if we went crazy up 20 on Auburn right before Christmas. Our record at Cintas is incredible good, something like 200-30. We are used to winning and this was a beatdown. Auburn is not any type of rival and few Xavier fans will cross paths with Auburn fans. Even if they did cross paths, the Auburn fans probably wouldn't know that the basketball team even had a game. Might not know they even have a basketball team.

Mack played O'Mara long enough to get a career high in points and Stainbrook was in for 2 minutes!

I'm sure the crowd will be great for Butler, Villanova, Providence, etc. I think Mack waved his hand to get folks on the refs. He often does that when he is not happy with a call. He knows the refs are impacted when everyone boos and we usually get a makeup call. I figured his competitive spirit doesn't allow him to coast, which is probably why he has been so successful.

[Xavgrad08]

Brandon Marcello is the beat writer for Auburn. This is what he tweeted after the game. 
‏@bmarcello Bruce Pearl didn't sound happy with Xavier after the game. From Pearl's interview on Auburn radio: "You can tell by the way their bench acted they wanted this game real badly. I told coach Chris Mack after the game last year that was the biggest win we had and I am glad you respected the environment, but nobody tried to show you up".

As an outsider it looked like the conversation between Pearl and Mack after the game was a bit heated. Hope we can play them in another home and home because I think Bruce is going to do good things at Auburn.

At one point in the game last year Pearl took off his jacket and waved it above his head like a helicopter to get the crowd involved. I am guessing that did not sit well with the Xavier bench.

[muskienick]

Xavier just announced a viagra giveaway for the next home game so all the blue hairs get off their arse and make a little noise next time!!

I realize that a visit from a scantily-clad Kate Upton at center court would be more expensive, but it work a lot better than one of those blue pills to get me up and cheering!!!!!!

[muskienick]

As soon as Chris began urging the crowd to get rowdy I realized that it was, indeed, to have them show their favor for Gates' performance on the previous play. In my opinion, there was absolutely no intent on Chris' part to shove it up Pearl's nose (as much as I would have liked it to be!!!).

[D-West & PO-Z]

I realize that a visit from a scantily-clad Kate Upton at center court would be more expensive, but it work a lot better than one of those blue pills to get me up and cheering!!!!!!

I'd have to concede that would be able to beat Red Panda as the best ever halftime show.........

.......barely.

[zanesxu]

I'd have to concede that would be able to beat Red Panda as the best ever halftime show.........

.......barely.

Unless Kate Upton was the Red Panda...

[xdude]

Noon game. Up considerably right from the git go. And yes, a bunch of older folks sit down there in the pricey seats. Unless it's the Shootout, we're always a bit quiet for those early contests. I didn't feel like there was anything malicious in Mack exhorting the fan base. Up over twenty. I go with the 'hey let's wake it up'. Speculation is an amazing thing....

[XfansinKy]

I was watching the handshake and Pearl talking Mack's ear off. If Pearl was complaining about Mack trying to get the crowd fired up, what an f'ing whiner.

I will add that Myles Davis and James Farr both at times tried to get the crowd to be louder. Maybe Pearl should talk to them as well. In addition, I requested the refs give Pearl a "T" on several occasions since he screams at the refs after every single call or non-call. I'll send Pearl an email apologizing.

Who does this guy think he is? He got banned from the sport for lying to the NCAA and he's now at a low tier SEC school. And he wants to lecture Chris Mack about "the proper way to play the game" because Mack tried to get a dead crowd fired up? And he thinks "Mack tried to show him up?"

Please. He and Mick Cronin should get together to discuss their bruised feelings.
I agree. The same Pearl who ran around the student section with his man boobs painted at UT's girls game is worried about how another coach acts? He should be worried about why his own team stopped moving the ball in the second half, and started playing "Who gets it first shoots it" instead of locking down and getting back in the game. Yea you got showed up Pearl, by your own players.

[xeus]

I thought the very same thing. Give me a break


Give you a break on what?

[XU 87]

At one point in the game last year Pearl took off his jacket and waved it above his head like a helicopter to get the crowd involved. I am guessing that did not sit well with the Xavier bench.

Personally, I think Pearl doing that is great. It's a basketball game. It 's supposed to be fun.

[xeus]

The lower bowl crowd is generally pretty weak. I've been going to games at Cintas since it opened 15 years ago. I sure hope they get off their you know what's for the Butler's, Villanova's etc. Our crowd should be a competitive advantage!!

Our crowd IS a competitive advantage. We have one of the best home court winning percentages (http://rpiratings.com/homecourtrec.php) in college basketball.


The average age of the crowd that can afford the lower bowl seats is pretty advanced. They are not likely to get rowdy.

You haven't met my friend Masterofreality! Seriously though, average age in the lower bowl is probably 50. It might be 40 in the upper bowl. Doubt we keep those stats, so, kind of a silly point to try to make.


Xavier just announced a viagra giveaway for the next home game so all the blue hairs get off their arse and make a little noise next time!!

Don't get the viagra reference. If I have a raging boner, I'm more likely to sit, not stand.

Not sure where you guys sit, but I suspect it's not the lower bowl. You either a.) aren't paying attention, or b.)you think everyone in the arena is supposed to stand and scream wildly for the entire length of the game. Lower bowl brings it every single game. We just don't have to yell as loud for the team to hear us as some of you guys who sit 1/4 mile from the action.

[UCGRAD4X]

Personally, I think Pearl doing that is great. It's a basketball game. It 's supposed to be fun.

And that's fine - but don't tell Mack (or any other coach) how to behave.

[bleedXblue]

No one will know for sure what Mack was trying to do....and it doesn't really matter IMHO. What's sad is that we have a Top 10 team who's 11-0 and we have fans that sit on their hands and don't cheer for most of the game. This has been going on for years.......and I don't see it changing except for a handful of games each year.

[BMoreX]

This thread is funny

[bleedXblue]

Our crowd IS a competitive advantage. We have one of the best home court winning percentages (http://rpiratings.com/homecourtrec.php) in college basketball.



You haven't met my friend Masterofreality! Seriously though, average age in the lower bowl is probably 50. It might be 40 in the upper bowl. Doubt we keep those stats, so, kind of a silly point to try to make.



Don't get the viagra reference. If I have a raging boner, I'm more likely to sit, not stand.

Not sure where you guys sit, but I suspect it's not the lower bowl. You either a.) aren't paying attention, or b.)you think everyone in the arena is supposed to stand and scream wildly for the entire length of the game. Lower bowl brings it every single game. We just don't have to yell as loud for the team to hear us as some of you guys who sit 1/4 mile from the action.

If the lower bowl brings it every game, why was Mack imploring the fans to stand up and cheer a little bit? Come up to Section 201 and we'll show you some passionate fans that get into the games.

[GoMuskies]

[/B]

If the lower bowl brings it every game, why was Mack imploring the fans to stand up and cheer a little bit?

Because he was trolling Bruce Pearl

[Masterofreality]

Gates was at the line at the time.I thought it was to get him an ovation for making a play (you know, Freshman not getting much playing time comes in and gets after it)...but I, too, though it was kinda odd.


I agree, I thought it was more about the Gates play.

I believe that it was nothing more than JP Macura made a very unselfish play- dishing to Gates when he could have taken it to the rack himself. I think Chris just wanted for the crowd to give them both, and especially JP, some love for a very good basketball play that, in capsule, displays what this team is.

I thought the crowd yesterday was fine. Loud when they should have been, but after all, it was another ass whipping.

[LA Muskie]

I was wondering yesterday what all our complainers are doing with all that pent-up disdain. Now I know. Chill out folks. We're 11-0.


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[Masterofreality]

The average age of the crowd that can afford the lower bowl seats is pretty advanced. They are not likely to get rowdy.



You haven't met my friend Masterofreality! Seriously though, average age in the lower bowl is probably 50. It might be 40 in the upper bowl. Doubt we keep those stats, so, kind of a silly point to try

Thank you my friend!

[xeus]

If the lower bowl brings it every game, why was Mack imploring the fans to stand up and cheer a little bit? Come up to Section 201 and we'll show you some passionate fans that get into the games.

I don't know. Ask the Coach. We were up 21 with a guy at the line. Maybe you guys up in 201 are going nuts over that game situation, but most of us are just there to watch the game. It was a free throw. Up 21 points. I was sitting down, sipping my beer, and chatting with my seat neighbor about a road trip to Milwaukee.

[LadyMuskie]

Our crowd IS a competitive advantage. We have one of the best home court winning percentages (http://rpiratings.com/homecourtrec.php) in college basketball.



You haven't met my friend Masterofreality! Seriously though, average age in the lower bowl is probably 50. It might be 40 in the upper bowl. Doubt we keep those stats, so, kind of a silly point to try to make.



Don't get the viagra reference. If I have a raging boner, I'm more likely to sit, not stand.

Not sure where you guys sit, but I suspect it's not the lower bowl. You either a.) aren't paying attention, or b.)you think everyone in the arena is supposed to stand and scream wildly for the entire length of the game. Lower bowl brings it every single game. We just don't have to yell as loud for the team to hear us as some of you guys who sit 1/4 mile from the action.


[/B]

If the lower bowl brings it every game, why was Mack imploring the fans to stand up and cheer a little bit? Come up to Section 201 and we'll show you some passionate fans that get into the games.

I've sat in the upper and lower bowl. The difference in cheering is negligible. Those lower bowl fans may be slightly older on average than the upper bowl crowd, but some of them ride the refs the whole game like they're getting a paycheck for it. It can get so rowdy that refs have told some of them to knock it off.

This is akin to complaining about what time people get to their seats. Just be thankful people are there at all.

[xudash]

Wasn't at the game, working from the TV coverage on this one, but Coach Mack seemed to be having a WTF? Moment there at the end, waving the crowd to its feet.

I'm not an expert lip reader, it looked like "This is bullshit". Perhaps closer observers can shed more light.

In the process of finishing off a record start, feeling under appreciated? The crowd seemed pretty loud, if not Shootout intense. Any ideas on what was going on there?

I'm begging you to declare that you had no intention of starting a thread that has led to all this.

[paulxu]

Seriously though, average age in the lower bowl is probably 50. It might be 40 in the upper bowl. Doubt we keep those stats, so, kind of a silly point to try to make.

Then there is the average age of my group, well North of those two, who sit in the front row FS1 seats...


I realize that a visit from a scantily-clad Kate Upton at center court would be more expensive, but it work a lot better than one of those blue pills to get me up and cheering!!!!!!

...which allows us to enjoy videos of the noted person when the score is 20+ and they go to commercial.

[XU 87]

And that's fine - but don't tell Mack (or any other coach) how to behave.

Huh?

[GoMuskies]

Huh?

Pearl had some words for Mack in his post-game press conference. Apparently he thought Mack was showing him up.

[Xville]

Our crowd and atmosphere is average. Upper or lower bowl doesnt matter. It can be really good for big games, but for those though that think it's great, you should probably visit some other arenas...our crowd is average. It's better than a lot of places and worse than a lot of places.

[Masterofreality]

Pearl had some words for Mack in his post-game press conference. Apparently he thought Mack was showing him up.

You know what? FUCK Bruce Pearl, and you know that I don't use the full word on here very often.

He is a cheater, and an ass. It's OK for him to show the other guy up, but don't show his ass up, huh?

I hope we never schedule his sorry pittoot again.

[XfansinKy]

I was wondering yesterday what all our complainers are doing with all that pent-up disdain. Now I know. Chill out folks. We're 11-0.


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What are you even talking about other than bitching at other fans? You came at me when all I'm doing is taking up for our coach and team. Maybe you need to chill.

[GoMuskies]

This is one of the strangest threads in board history.

[Masterofreality]

This is one of the strangest threads in board history.

Well, we haven't lost so the Bitch gene has been suppressed. Had to come out at some point.

[XfansinKy]

[QUOTE=Masterofreality;525831]You know what? FUCK Bruce Pearl, and you know that I don't use the full word on here very often.

He is a cheater, and an ass. It's OK for him to show the other guy up, but don't show his ass up, huh?

I hope we never schedule his sorry pittoot again.[/QUOTE
Thank you!

[X-band '01]

Pearl had some words for Mack in his post-game press conference. Apparently he thought Mack was showing him up.

Link? I didn't hear anything inflammatory in the post-game presser.

[GoMuskies]

Link? I didn't hear anything inflammatory in the post-game presser.

Apparently it was in his Auburn network post-game radio interview and not in the press conference.

Brandon Marcello is the beat writer for Auburn. This is what he tweeted after the game. 
‏@bmarcello Bruce Pearl didn't sound happy with Xavier after the game. From Pearl's interview on Auburn radio: "You can tell by the way their bench acted they wanted this game real badly. I told coach Chris Mack after the game last year that was the biggest win we had and I am glad you respected the environment, but nobody tried to show you up".

[xuwin]

Link? I didn't hear anything inflammatory in the post-game presser.

I agree. He had nothing but nice things to say about X and the program.

[ballyhoohoo]

White people are crazy

[xubrew]

This might be the most Xavier thread ever!!

[ballyhoohoo]

This might be the most Xavier thread ever!!

I'm pretty sure when Mack was stomping he was jumping off one foot

[xubrew]

I'm pretty sure when Mack was stomping he was jumping off one foot

Okay, NOW it's the most Xavier thread ever!!

[Emp]

I'm begging you to declare that you had no intention of starting a thread that has led to all this.

I do declare.

It was unprecedented in my memory, and it struck me as odd. I was looking for some more info. Thanks to those who were present or saw the Auburn interview, I was totally unaware of that angle. This is one reason we have a board, to share info.

If it was a mild rebuke to the Pearl coat swinging from the year before, that makes some sense;, and more sense than my initial inference that Mack thought our fans were not being supportive enough.

Regular programming will return shortly.

[Cheesehead]

Mack was giving Bruce a taste of his own medicine. Auburn acted like they won the national championship last year and Mack was not pleased. Mack mentioned this in practice a lot. I actually thought crowd was decent for a exam week Christmas break game.

[XfansinKy]

No matter what, the pre brawl swagger is back plus ten.

[xu82]

No matter what, the pre brawl swagger is back plus ten.

No, please no. Sorry. Swagger is cool. Confidence is cool. Players yapping at the opposing coach and bench is not. This is a much better version. I expect flack, but this is different. I LOVE this team and hope they respond well after some adversity. There will be some bumps along the road, but this team is deep and talented with just enough intelligent swagger. They don't have to win on swagger alone.

[D-West & PO-Z]

No, please no. Sorry. Swagger is cool. Confidence is cool. Players yapping at the opposing coach and bench is not. This is a much better version. I expect flack, but this is different. I LOVE this team and hope they respond well after some adversity. There will be some bumps along the road, but this team is deep and talented with just enough intelligent swagger. They don't have to win on swagger alone.

There are players on this team that yap way more than the previous teams ever did.

[vee4xu]

You know what? FUCK Bruce Pearl, and you know that I don't use the full word on here very often.

He is a cheater, and an ass. It's OK for him to show the other guy up, but don't show his ass up, huh?

I hope we never schedule his sorry pittoot again.

This is pretty much (except for the f-word, which MOR rarely uses too) what I was going to post, but saw this first, so no need to. Bruce Peal is a cheating POS and I'm glad he and his team got blown out of the Cintas Center.

[Juice]

This is pretty much (except for the f-word, which MOR rarely uses too) what I was going to post, but saw this first, so no need to. Bruce Peal is a cheating POS and I'm glad he and his team got blown out of the Cintas Center.

And to top it off, he's snitches on other coaches cheating. He's the worst.

[xu82]

There are players on this team that yap way more than the previous teams ever did.

It's not THAT they yap, but more HOW they yap (and to whom). I'm not anti-swagger by any means, but I'm hoping we can rise above the previous behavior.

(Oh hell, here it comes....)

[XfansinKy]

No, please no. Sorry. Swagger is cool. Confidence is cool. Players yapping at the opposing coach and bench is not. This is a much better version. I expect flack, but this is different. I LOVE this team and hope they respond well after some adversity. There will be some bumps along the road, but this team is deep and talented with just enough intelligent swagger. They don't have to win on swagger alone.

I'm glad the swagger is back n like you said, "Swagger is cool". Swagger is required to go deep. Trash talk though, is not required.

[xu82]

I'm glad the swagger is back n like you said, "Swagger is cool". Swagger is required to go deep. Trash talk though, is not required.

Yeah, there's a difference. Getting in the face of the opposing coach and bench is decidedly uncool. Talking in the opponents ear does not show up an entire arena. There's a reason Lyons did not return. I trust in Coach Mack.

[Juice]

Yeah, there's a difference. Getting in the face of the opposing coach and bench is decidedly uncool. Talking in the opponents ear does not show up an entire arena. There's a reason Lyons did not return. I trust in Coach Mack.

Why do you think JP Macura is constantly targeted by players on other teams? It's not because they're jealous of his haircut.

[LadyMuskie]

Yeah, there's a difference. Getting in the face of the opposing coach and bench is decidedly uncool. Talking in the opponents ear does not show up an entire arena. There's a reason Lyons did not return. I trust in Coach Mack.

What reason is that? Lyons is still incredibly loyal to X, and seemingly harbors no ill-will. And he went to play for Mack's closest friend who coaches. You really think Mack would send his best friend a problem child? Please. That's all a bunch of bullcrap.

Swagger does not equal "bad behavior". You can win without swagger, but you won't win it all without swagger. Had Holloway and Lyons never been allowed to do the press conference after that game, no one would be worried about swagger and behavior.

I'm so incredibly sick on this nonsense about that day and swagger. It's an excuse for why UC couldn't play nice on the court. Xavier threw some words and UC retaliated with fists and feet.

Keep Zippin 'Em Up, X. Bring on the body bags!

[xu82]

Why do you think JP Macura is constantly targeted by players on other teams? It's not because they're jealous of his haircut.

No question he brings it on, and I love that. (As long as he's on our team.) But there is a line. Where that's line is will vary from person to person. I am not a fan of my guys getting in the face of the opposing bench and coach. Play the F'ing game.

BTW - Why did Lyons transfer?

[xu82]

What reason is that? Lyons is still incredibly loyal to X, and seemingly harbors no ill-will. And he went to play for Mack's closest friend who coaches. You really think Mack would send his best friend a problem child? Please. That's all a bunch of bullcrap.

Swagger does not equal "bad behavior". You can win without swagger, but you won't win it all without swagger. Had Holloway and Lyons never been allowed to do the press conference after that game, no one would be worried about swagger and behavior.

I'm so incredibly sick on this nonsense about that day and swagger. It's an excuse for why UC couldn't play nice on the court. Xavier threw some words and UC retaliated with fists and feet.

Keep Zippin 'Em Up, X. Bring on the body bags!

If you noticed, I said swagger is cool. VERY cool, and I believe necessary. A certain level of class is nice too. And not mutually exclusive.

[paulxu]

BTW - Why did Lyons transfer?

Semaj.

[xu82]

Semaj.

Fair answer. (I do have to wonder what went on behind closed doors.) You'd think there's no such thing as too many good players. Look at this years team!

[waggy]

Semaj.

Uh, no.

[LadyMuskie]

Fair answer. (I do have to wonder what went on behind closed doors.) You'd think there's no such thing as too many good players. Look at this years team!

Chris Mack has A LOT of swagger. He created and molded in his likeness the team that some like to say played with no class and too much swagger. If you think back to when Mack played himself, he played with a great deal of swagger and a huge friggin chip on his shoulder. His best teams have emulated that. This team is no exception. For God's sake, Mack himself trolls other fan bases and coaches. He is the king of swagger. He's not going to banish a player for having too much of it.

I don't know what went on in the locker room, but I'm fairly certain that if there had been such great animosity between Mack and Lyons to the degree that some on here want to have us all believe, Lyons wouldn't say things like "Xavier for life" on his public Twitter profile when we played dayton last month.

[Kahns Krazy]

I thought the Mack thumping the table was awesome. I really don't see the downside.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Why do you think JP Macura is constantly targeted by players on other teams? It's not because they're jealous of his haircut.


What reason is that? Lyons is still incredibly loyal to X, and seemingly harbors no ill-will. And he went to play for Mack's closest friend who coaches. You really think Mack would send his best friend a problem child? Please. That's all a bunch of bullcrap.

Swagger does not equal "bad behavior". You can win without swagger, but you won't win it all without swagger. Had Holloway and Lyons never been allowed to do the press conference after that game, no one would be worried about swagger and behavior.

I'm so incredibly sick on this nonsense about that day and swagger. It's an excuse for why UC couldn't play nice on the court. Xavier threw some words and UC retaliated with fists and feet.

Keep Zippin 'Em Up, X. Bring on the body bags!

Yes, both of these.

[xu82]

I love coach Mack (and his swagger) and I have no reason to question him on anything. (I mean, what the hell do I know?) He does a great job and I hope this goes on forever. So, was he unable to keep Lyons? Was it a fall for Mack? Or, was he to some degree pleased to see the talented guy who refused to run the offense leave? Whatever, it was adroitly handled to look and feel like a win for all sides, even years later.

[XfansinKy]

I thought the Mack thumping the table was awesome. I really don't see the downside.

I agree. I honestly don't see it as such a big deal. He wanted and got the crowd fired up. Who knows, it was such a beautiful display of teamwork that he was ready to get his sword up n have a good night so he got fired up.

[paulxu]

Uh, no.

I would think some part of Lyons going west was his desire to play point and that not being in the cards with Semaj coming on board.
Christon did lead the team in minutes played and points scored, as a freshman. Whatever...it all worked out.

[waggy]

I would think some part of Lyons going west was his desire to play point and that not being in the cards with Semaj coming on board.
Christon did lead the team in minutes played and points scored, as a freshman. Whatever...it all worked out.

Plausible I suppose. But my recollection is that Lyons' transfer was the worst kept secret in basketball. This board was having discussions about it long before the season ended, and way before Semaj committed.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Plausible I suppose. But my recollection is that Lyons' transfer was the worst kept secret in basketball. This board was having discussions about it long before the season ended, and way before Semaj committed.

Huh? People were talking about Lyons transferring way before his junior season at XU?

[LadyMuskie]

Plausible I suppose. But my recollection is that Lyons' transfer was the worst kept secret in basketball. This board was having discussions about it long before the season ended, and way before Semaj committed.

Uh, no.

[Juice]

Plausible I suppose. But my recollection is that Lyons' transfer was the worst kept secret in basketball. This board was having discussions about it long before the season ended, and way before Semaj committed.

Semaj committed on 7/27/11. That's the summer before the 2011-2012 season that Cheekz was still on the team.

[waggy]

Uh, no.

:perfect10:

And FU!

[Masterofreality]

I gotta tell you.

If we had Academy Awards for "Best Performance in One Day" this years award goes to Lady Muskie for her incredible performance yesterday.
There are too many hot takes to recap, but everyone should just do themselves a favor and read her superb musings on this and the "Best T eam in the Nation" thread.

Well done, Lady!!

[Muskie]

No one will know for sure what Mack was trying to do....and it doesn't really matter IMHO. What's sad is that we have a Top 10 team who's 11-0 and we have fans that sit on their hands and don't cheer for most of the game. This has been going on for years.......and I don't see it changing except for a handful of games each year.

Unless one of you asks at the Coaches show!!!!!


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[ammtd34]

Bruce is mad that Mack waved to the crowd and pounded the table? Weird.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PZ9IgNPtDw

[Masterofreality]

Bruce is mad that Mack waved to the crowd and pounded the table? Weird.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PZ9IgNPtDw

Exactly why I said FUCK Bruce Pearl. What goes around, comes around, brother. [/B]

[paulxu]

Pearl should be happy Mack didn't take off his coat and start waving it at the crowd.

[GoMuskies]

Pearl should be happy Mack didn't take off his coat and start waving it at the crowd.

I assume Fr. Graham had the honors on that one.

[paulxu]

Good point.

[muskiefan82]

Is this the end of scheduling Auburn then? I think it is time for Arkansas and Ole Miss anyway.

[bleedXblue]

Whatever Pearl did last year must have really gotten under the skin of Mack. Now that I think about it, Pearl has a history of being overly dramatic and overly demonstrative. He loves the attention. Remember when he took his shirt off in the UT cheering section (not that it wasn't funny)....but clearly the guy loves the attention and loves the spotlight.

[Masterofreality]

Remember. We actually scheduled Auburn before Pearl became coach.

I doubt that we'll schedule another Pearl coached team.

[X-band '01]

Is this the end of scheduling Auburn then? I think it is time for Arkansas and Ole Miss anyway.

How about South Carolina? Paulxu, make it happen!

[Masterofreality]

How about South Carolina? Paulxu, make it happen!

Ah, playing Frank Martin would be fun again.

[muskiefan82]

How about South Carolina? Paulxu, make it happen!

Of course, a national championship run might make that team 100 miles south of us finally willing to schedule X.

[Muskie]

How about South Carolina? Paulxu, make it happen!

I would love a game at South Carolina.

[paulxu]

That would be great if we played the Cocks.
Off the top I'm guessing Martin's a few years away from that. He only booked one away game OOC...at Clemson, so not even a plane ride.
His OOC SOS is 248, which only gets him in the 40's RPI-wise despite being undefeated.

But, bring it on! Ya'll can drive from Cincy, spend the night in Sparkle City where I'll host a pregame at Ike's.
Then on to the game the next day. Same program as when you drive to Hilton Head, but you'll stop in Columbia.

[nuts4xu]

I would love a game at South Carolina.

Ditto. The company I work for is based in Charleston SC, I would be able to attend the Cocks game in Columbia on the company dime!

[Masterofreality]

That would be great if we played the Cocks.
Off the top I'm guessing Martin's a few years away from that. He only booked one away game OOC...at Clemson, so not even a plane ride.
His OOC SOS is 248, which only gets him in the 40's RPI-wise despite being undefeated.

But, bring it on! Ya'll can drive from Cincy, spend the night in Sparkle City where I'll host a pregame at Ike's.
Then on to the game the next day. Same program as when you drive to Hilton Head, but you'll stop in Columbia.


Ditto. The company I work for is based in Charleston SC, I would be able to attend the Cocks game in Columbia on the company dime!


I'm in for that one. Love Columbia and that area!

[GoMuskies]

I think Columbia is a shithole, but I wouldn't mind staying in Charleston or Hilton Head and driving over the Columbia for a game.

[Muskie]

I think Columbia is a shithole, but I wouldn't mind staying in Charleston or Hilton Head and driving over the Columbia for a game.

Greenville for me.


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[Masterofreality]

I think Columbia is a shithole, but I wouldn't mind staying in Charleston or Hilton Head and driving over the Columbia for a game.

Just need to know it better. There are some cool areas.

[GoMuskies]

Probably wouldn't be too bad in basketball season. It's just jungle hot down there in the summer. Brutal.

[Masterofreality]

Probably wouldn't be too bad in basketball season. It's just jungle hot down there in the summer. Brutal.

No argument there brother. 95 degrees with 95% humidity. #95Rule

[muskieindent]

Why not? It got a lot louder when he did that. I think he was imitating a Bruce Pearl tactic.

I thought he was taking a little shot at Pearl too.

[xubrew]

I don't think there is anything wrong with players, coaches, and fans being excited and acting excited after a win. In fact, I think it makes the game more exciting. Auburn's program was shit, and they won a big game in overtime. If he wants to go crazy and play to the crowd, then good for him. If others want to dish it back at him when they get revenge, then that's even better.

Auburn basketball is more popular than it's been in well over a decade. Bruce Pearl's antics are be annoying to some, but so what?? It's exciting to others, and Auburn could sure as hell use some excitement. Beat them, and it's not an issue. I actually kind of hate the idea that it's somehow classless or bush league if you celebrate after a win. Openly taunting the other team is one thing, but gesturing your own fans after a win isn't classless or bush league, IMHO.

[chico]

Of course, a national championship run might make that team 100 miles south of us finally willing to schedule X.

I would so love to play UK, for so many reasons.

[Milhouse]

http://www.55krc.com/media/play/26598451/

Mack's show from last week. His pump up was 100% due to it being Auburn how they played there last year.

[Kahns Krazy]

What does a noon tip have to do with anything? If thats too early to be awake and loud, that's pretty sad. I do agree with students being gone having a little to do with it though.

Do you really not think there is a correlation between later games and louder crowds?

[TUclutch]

Do you really not think there is a correlation between later games and louder crowds?

No I really think thats a weak argument. If it was like a 10am game, yea I get it. most people have been up for several hours by noon. Even on a saturday. Grab a brunch with a couple drinks. Also, the argument that the upper bowl is any louder than the lower bowl is wrong as well. I have family with tickets in both levels and I have sat in both levels multiple times over the last few years. The lower bowl is just as loud.

[Caveat]

Both the upper bowl and lower bowl can get loud, but where the difference is (based on other venues I've been to) is the consistency on the noise levels. The fans will get up for a possession here and there, but I've been to arenas where the crowd is up for EVERY possession down the stretch of a game or during a big run early on.

I wish that would change. With the team we have currently, a crowd being loud for the first 3-4 possessions (and not sitting down after the first make) could help rattle an opposing team and bury them early.

[boozehound]

Both the upper bowl and lower bowl can get loud, but where the difference is (based on other venues I've been to) is the consistency on the noise levels. The fans will get up for a possession here and there, but I've been to arenas where the crowd is up for EVERY possession down the stretch of a game or during a big run early on.

I wish that would change. With the team we have currently, a crowd being loud for the first 3-4 possessions (and not sitting down after the first make) could help rattle an opposing team and bury them early.

I agree with this assessment. The closest I have seen recently was the shootout this year. The atmosphere was electric, and the Cintas Center was LOUD. It would be nice to see that more often.

[Caveat]

I agree with this assessment. The closest I have seen recently was the shootout this year. The atmosphere was electric, and the Cintas Center was LOUD. It would be nice to see that more often.

Yup. That game, more than any other I've been to in the last few years, was one where the crowd had a better feel for the flow of the game. And it absolutely impacted UC.

This is a top-10 (possibly soon a top-5) team. Opponents *will* be tight/nervous walking in to Cintas this year -- moreso than in years past. There will be a circle around the game and a desire to make an impact by taking down a top team. A loud building, with the crowd disrupting communication as visiting teams try to call out plays or communicate on how to break down the man or 1-3-1 zone, has the ability to create confusion. I really hope the crowd appreciates this as we get into Big East play -- they can have a crucial impact on some of these games.

[LadyMuskie]

#6 ranked team in the nation = complaints about the fans.

Life with some of you must be so joyous.

[Xavier]

No I really think thats a weak argument. .

If you really didn't think there was a correlation between later games and louder crowds then a 10AM game wouldn't be any different, either.

Its crazy you don't think there is a difference. Either way, LadyMuskie is right- when we are arguing about this we know things are going well on the court.

[TUclutch]

If you really didn't think there was a correlation between later games and louder crowds then a 10AM game wouldn't be any different, either.

Its crazy you don't think there is a difference. Either way, LadyMuskie is right- when we are arguing about this we know things are going well on the court.

Disagree. Not everyone has been up for hours at 10am on a saturday. Noon on the other hand gives people time to be up and get food and have some drinks. 10am doesn't. Noon on a Saturday shouldn't be any different than a 7pm week night after people were at work all day. With that said, I don't think the time should have any impact at all. If you're at the game, it should be loud. Too many fans(upper and lower level) are more worried about talking with their friends(not all but alot)

[XUFan09]

No I really think thats a weak argument. If it was like a 10am game, yea I get it. most people have been up for several hours by noon. Even on a saturday. Grab a brunch with a couple drinks. Also, the argument that the upper bowl is any louder than the lower bowl is wrong as well. I have family with tickets in both levels and I have sat in both levels multiple times over the last few years. The lower bowl is just as loud.
I wonder what percentage of the brunch crowd finishes brunch with enough time to make a noon tip-off. Maybe 15%? I also am willing to bet that a good portion of adults working weekday 9-5 jobs don't get up on Saturdays until after 10 or 10:30, some of them even later.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

I wonder what percentage of the brunch crowd finishes brunch with enough time to make a noon tip-off. Maybe 15%? I also am willing to bet that a good portion of adults working weekday 9-5 jobs don't get up on Saturdays until after 10 or 10:30, some of them even later.

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I guess it depends on your definition of "good portion" but I cant imagine that to be true. Only way is if you are talking about a select population of working adults, ie. 22-28 year olds.

[xufan2434]

I agree with both sides of this argument.. I understand the frustration with some about fans seeming not into the game sometimes and the Cintas seeming kind of dead. I've experienced the same frustration throughout the years. And while I don't think it played that big of a role whatsoever in Miller leaving, I do remember him trying multiple things to get the crowd more into the games towards the end of his tenure at X.

However with this game specifically, students were on break and as said before, X was dominating. While Auburn is in the SEC, it isn't like they're a top basketball program. I don't expect that arena to have an extreme amount of energy every night like a Cameron Indoor does. That isn't going to happen and I'm okay with that. The crowd will come, and they'll be there when X does eventually find itself in a tight game at home. Fully expect the arena to be rocking for the Butler game, with or without the students

[vee4xu]

Uh, no.

Agree. I think Coach Mack "encouraged" Lyons to transfer. When Mark tried to talk Mack out of it, Mack just said, zip it up.

[vee4xu]

You know, I was at the game and once that X got off to that great start, sensed that the crowd was just along for the ride. I do think that when Auburn closed the gap in the last 3-4 minutes of the first half, the fans could have probably gotten a little loud, but beyond that, it was pretty much in hand and very early in the day.

[Straightshooter]

Mack request for the crowd response was twofold. First, he wanted the crowd to give it up for Gates, a promising player he feels could be a difference maker in the future. Secondly, he was letting the crowd know they were docile. That he is expecting more from them.

[xu82]

Mack request for the crowd response was twofold. First, he wanted the crowd to give it up for Gates, a promising player he feels could be a difference maker in the future. Secondly, he was letting the crowd know they were docile. That he is expecting more from them.

Yep, and welcome!!!

It also didn't hurt that Pearl is not his favorite guy out there.

[bleedXblue]

I think many on here just think we can do better than what we've typically done with our crowds. I don't think anyone is portraying this as big problem. The student section the last 2-3 years has been really consistent and almost always full and into the games. The pre-game experience (introductions etc.)has also been pretty good. The band does it's job really well. If there's one component that could get better its getting ALL of the fans into the game more consistently....regardless of opponent and score.

[X-man]

Mack request for the crowd response was twofold. First, he wanted the crowd to give it up for Gates, a promising player he feels could be a difference maker in the future. Secondly, he was letting the crowd know they were docile. That he is expecting more from them.

What BS. You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Smooth]

I don't know. Ask the Coach. We were up 21 with a guy at the line. Maybe you guys up in 201 are going nuts over that game situation, but most of us are just there to watch the game. It was a free throw. Up 21 points. I was sitting down, sipping my beer, and chatting with my seat neighbor about a road trip to Milwaukee.

Yeah, well up in 201 we sit down occasionally, but we still chug our beer when we do.

[xu82]

What BS. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Well, that was insightful. Thanks for your valuable contribution and warm welcome. I was there at the Auburn game (with Straightshooter) and I happen to agree with him. He knows his hoops - he could and did successfully play with the X hoops players of our day and actually played a couple of sports at X, plus his daughter played D1 B-ball. He knows his sports, and his comment makes sense. Do you have any evidence that his opinion is incorrect? Or are you just being a jerk? It tends to line up to some degree with what most people here seem to think. The crowd had settled and Gates made a great play. Please tell us how you are smarter than the rest of us.

[XU 87]

Well, that was insightful. Thanks for your valuable contribution and warm welcome. I was there (with Straightshooter) and I happen to agree with him. He knows his hoops and it makes sense. Do you have any evidence that his opinion is incorrect? Or are you just being a jerk? It tends to line up to some degree with what most people here seem to think. The crowd had settled and Gates made a great play. Please tell us how you are smarter than the rest of us.

I thought the same thing as Straightshooter. And I haven't been wrong on this board since around 2009.

[xu82]

I thought the same thing as Straightshooter. And I haven't been wrong on this board since around 2009.

I suspect the event of 2009 was inconclusive.

[paulxu]

Do you really not think there is a correlation between later games and louder crowds?

There seems to be a direct correlation between later games and the amount of alcohol I have consumed at tip-off. Just taking a shot in the dark though.

[xu82]

There seems to be a direct correlation between later games and the amount of alcohol I have consumed at tip-off. Just taking a shot in the dark though.

Yeah, it's not every day that I soak my Cheerios in Budweiser..... It takes commitment.

[muethibp]

Disagree. Not everyone has been up for hours at 10am on a saturday. Noon on the other hand gives people time to be up and get food and have some drinks. 10am doesn't. Noon on a Saturday shouldn't be any different than a 7pm week night after people were at work all day. With that said, I don't think the time should have any impact at all. If you're at the game, it should be loud. Too many fans(upper and lower level) are more worried about talking with their friends(not all but alot)

I can't believe we're even talking about this. Of course the later the game, the noisier the crowd. Owing almost entirely to alcohol.

[UCGRAD4X]

I can't believe we're even talking about this. Of course the later the game, the noisier the crowd. Owing almost entirely to alcohol.

You can't drink all day unless you start in the morning

[XUFan09]

I guess it depends on your definition of "good portion" but I cant imagine that to be true. Only way is if you are talking about a select population of working adults, ie. 22-28 year olds.
I'm actually surprised how often I run into this with middle-aged people, though yes, this group is disproportionately represented by people in their 20s.

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[Xavier]

I think many on here just think we can do better than what we've typically done with our crowds. I don't think anyone is portraying this as big problem. The student section the last 2-3 years has been really consistent and almost always full and into the games. The pre-game experience (introductions etc.)has also been pretty good. The band does it's job really well. If there's one component that could get better its getting ALL of the fans into the game more consistently....regardless of opponent and score.

As much as I hate the Xavierpopes now (really, still tweeting on that handle? Time to grow up) the student section has never been as good as it was a few years ago. It isn't bad and really, I don't care much about the student section/crowd in general, just an observation that it isn't as good as years past is all.

[drudy23]

What time does that 7 o'clock game start?

Another thread from weirdsville....for what it's worth, I'd sleep in until 10:30am every day if I could.

[X-man]

Yeah, it's not every day that I soak my Cheerios in Budweiser..... It takes commitment.

I love the smell of a good craft beer in the morning. Saturday, I was fortunate enough to smell four craft beers in the morning.

[Kahns Krazy]

No I really think thats a weak argument. If it was like a 10am game, yea I get it. most people have been up for several hours by noon. Even on a saturday. Grab a brunch with a couple drinks. Also, the argument that the upper bowl is any louder than the lower bowl is wrong as well. I have family with tickets in both levels and I have sat in both levels multiple times over the last few years. The lower bowl is just as loud.


There seems to be a direct correlation between later games and the amount of alcohol I have consumed at tip-off. Just taking a shot in the dark though.

It has nothing to do with how long people have been awake. I can scream my head off within 5 minutes of waking up. It's the nature of the crowd. A noon tip attracts tons more little kids for whom a 7PM start is too late. Their parents, who may be totally into the game when the kids aren't there, are paying more attention to the kids than they normally do to the game. Other people are there on their way to something else that day - yard work, shopping, etc. Not everyone is going to get into full game mode at noon. There is a full day after 2PM that influences people's behavior.

Paul points out the obvious alcohol impact. Not only is the game day consumption going to be lower at a day game, you're also substantially closer to the previous night's alcohol consumption.

It's not the same crowd at a noon game, and even if it were, they just won't be as fired up at noon as they would be at 7PM .

[boozehound]

I actually thought the crowd was decent for a noon tipoff during exam week against a non-conference opponent that isn't very good. It's hard to expect people to get too excited when you are up by 20 the entire game.

[xufan2434]

As much as I hate the Xavierpopes now (really, still tweeting on that handle? Time to grow up) the student section has never been as good as it was a few years ago. It isn't bad and really, I don't care much about the student section/crowd in general, just an observation that it isn't as good as years past is all.

I would agree with this. Not that they're bad now, but they were definitely at their peak 10'-12'

[paulxu]

Perhaps the answer to Chris Mack's exhorting the crowd is as simple as his tweet before the game. Somehow the Muskies became the Damn Muskies on Twitter. He wanted this one bad; and he wanted the crowd "on their feet & loud."

Chris Mack ‏@CoachChrisMack · Dec 18
Need Xavier Nation on their feet & loud @ 12pm Keep seeing these War Eagle tweets. Roll Damn Muskies!! #GameDayGuide

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWjG9WaW4AAcKGW.jpg

[danaandvictory]

When the team struggles, bitch about the team. When the team is great, bitch about the fans. Same as it ever was.

And Mack's tweet is an obvious allusion to "Roll Damn Tide."

[UCGRAD4X]

Perhaps the answer to Chris Mack's exhorting the crowd is as simple as his tweet before the game. Somehow the Muskies became the Damn Muskies on Twitter. He wanted this one bad; and he wanted the crowd "on their feet & loud."

Chris Mack ‏@CoachChrisMack · Dec 18
Need Xavier Nation on their feet & loud @ 12pm Keep seeing these War Eagle tweets. Roll Damn Muskies!! #GameDayGuide

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWjG9WaW4AAcKGW.jpg

This is awesome!

Is there a guide like this for every game and where?

[Masterofreality]

When the team struggles, bitch about the team. When the team is great, bitch about the fans. Same as it ever was.

And Mack's tweet is an obvious allusion to "Roll Damn Tide."

Yep.......and......Yep.

[Juice]

This is awesome!

Is there a guide like this for every game and where?

Twitter and Instagram

[Joel]

This is awesome!

Is there a guide like this for every game and where?

There is. Coach Mack tweets it out every game day, and we embed it in our game thread over on Banners. The GameDay Guide is one of those things that make me wish my visual media skills didn't stop with MS Paint.

[Masterofreality]

There is. Coach Mack tweets it out every game day, and we embed it in our game thread over on Banners. The GameDay Guide is one of those things that make me wish my visual media skills didn't stop with MS Paint.

Don't worry about the graphics. Just keep writing good stuff, JD!

[MADXSTER]

Don't worry about the graphics. Just keep writing good stuff, JD!

Agree...I read your stuff all the time.