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mostly harmless
12-09-2015, 09:11 AM
Saw this from a Seth Davis article about James Farr. Really love that he is putting it altogether. Really looks confident in the post and pulling up from midrange. Added to the fact that he grabs every rebound in his zone and he is blossoming into a complete player.

"Best sixth man? I’ll go with Xavier’s James Farr. The 6'10" senior is averaging 10.5 points and 8.5 rebounds in 19.5 minutes off the bench. Xavier might not be the best team in the country, but it is one of the few that can check every box: point guard play, shooters, athletes, post guys, rebounders, defenders, depth, toughness. Can’t wait for ’em to play Villanova."

Link - http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2015/12/07/hoop-thoughts-parity-freshmen-transferring-nba-draft

markchal
12-09-2015, 09:38 AM
Saw this from a Seth Davis article about James Farr. Really love that he is putting it altogether. Really looks confident in the post and pulling up from midrange. Added to the fact that he grabs every rebound in his zone and he is blossoming into a complete player.

"Best sixth man? I’ll go with Xavier’s James Farr. The 6'10" senior is averaging 10.5 points and 8.5 rebounds in 19.5 minutes off the bench. Xavier might not be the best team in the country, but it is one of the few that can check every box: point guard play, shooters, athletes, post guys, rebounders, defenders, depth, toughness. Can’t wait for ’em to play Villanova."

Link - http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2015/12/07/hoop-thoughts-parity-freshmen-transferring-nba-draft

I want to second this. He put a lot of work into his post game during the offseason and it really shows. He's become a terrific player and a good leader and is a great ambassador for this program. Wouldn't have expected this from him after not being able to get on the court as a freshman on a team with a bad frontcourt. Thrilled to see his progress and can't wait to watch him for the rest of the year.

gladdenguy
12-09-2015, 09:42 AM
I think JP Macura and Jimmy Farr are the 2 best Sixth men in college basketball!!!!!

Frambo
12-09-2015, 09:50 AM
Farr's been great....once he gave up his 3 point attempts. Stay around the hoop and clean up. Remy might also want to consider attacking, playing defense and leaving the 3's to others.

XU 87
12-09-2015, 09:53 AM
Farr is another example of an XU guy with some raw talent who worked hard and learned how to play the game. Now he's going to make some money playing this game post college.

Well done.

Juice
12-09-2015, 10:34 AM
Farr's been great....once he gave up his 3 point attempts. Stay around the hoop and clean up. Remy might also want to consider attacking, playing defense and leaving the 3's to others.

He does do all of those things. He shot over 40% last year and the year before from three.

XUFan09
12-09-2015, 10:40 AM
Farr's been great....once he gave up his 3 point attempts. Stay around the hoop and clean up. Remy might also want to consider attacking, playing defense and leaving the 3's to others.
No, bad idea for Remy. He's a good catch-and-shoot guy, but he's been in a slump and needs to work through it. I still hate when he takes stepback jumpers, though; they are highly inefficient for him.

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MuskieCinci
12-09-2015, 12:42 PM
I've never minded Farr's threes from the aspect that I don't think he can make them. I just really dislike when he isn't around the basket because he is such an effective rebounder and we have other players to shoot those shots. Farr would have to be a much more efficient three point shooter for me to want him to take the shot over one of our perimeter guys, because our expected points on that trip have to be much higher with him giving us a great chance at a second opportunity if the basket doesn't fall.

Frambo
12-09-2015, 01:09 PM
He does do all of those things. He shot over 40% last year and the year before from three.

shooting 22% this year from the 3.
shooting 88% from the FT line.
just my opinion...but forget the 3's and attack the hoop. With his ability to drive and the way they are calling fouls, getting a traditional 3 also stacks fouls up on the opponent.

XUFan09
12-09-2015, 01:29 PM
shooting 22% this year from the 3.
shooting 88% from the FT line.
just my opinion...but forget the 3's and attack the hoop. With his ability to drive and the way they are calling fouls, getting a traditional 3 also stacks fouls up on the opponent.
People also said Dante should stop shooting 3's when he had a slump at the beginning of his senior year, but he got out of his slump and starting hitting them at a respectable rate. The idea that a career-long solid to good shooter should stop shooting threes because he got in a slump was wrong then and it's wrong now.

Remy's ability to drive would also be hampered by laying off the threes, as opponents would just play off of him. When he's hitting threes again, it will keep his defender honest.

Edit: That's before mentioning how Abell's shooting can stretch the floor more for his teammates and thus increases the overall offensive efficiency of the team.

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XUMIOH12
12-09-2015, 02:31 PM
He does do all of those things. He shot over 40% last year and the year before from three.

Not sure where you are getting that 40% from? Farr was 19-50 from 3 in 13-14 and 13-45 from 3 last season, currently 0-2 this year.

XMuskieFTW
12-09-2015, 02:33 PM
Not sure where you are getting that 40% from? Farr was 19-50 from 3 in 13-14 and 13-45 from 3 last season, currently 0-2 this year.

He was talking about Remy.

XUMIOH12
12-09-2015, 02:48 PM
He was talking about Remy.

Guess i should have read through the James Farr thread that discusses Remy Abell's shooting.

XUMIOH12
12-09-2015, 02:49 PM
Guess i should have read through the James Farr thread that discusses Remy Abell's shooting.

In regards to Abell, i think he should keep taking the shots that he always has. No need to stop shooting because hes been cold. I just dont like him taking mid-range or step backs because he isnt good at those.

XUFan09
12-09-2015, 03:27 PM
In regards to Abell, i think he should keep taking the shots that he always has. No need to stop shooting because hes been cold. I just dont like him taking mid-range or step backs because he isnt good at those.
Exactly. The strengths of his halfcourt offensive game are catch-and-shoot jump shots and drives to the rim. Leave the rest for the playground.

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birdman71
12-09-2015, 04:54 PM
Farr is another example of XU getting less sought after recruits [although that is changing], recognizing potential and character, getting them into the program and the XU Way and having them turn out better than most of the recruits with one more star who went to higher rated programs. Mostly our bigs. e.g.Grant, Strong, Hill, Williams, West, Love, Stain and on and on.

Juice
12-09-2015, 05:10 PM
Guess i should have read through the James Farr thread that discusses Remy Abell's shooting.

The prior poster said he should stop shooting threes like Farr. I said he (Remy) should keep firing bc he shot over 40%. The two prior seasons.

Smooth
12-09-2015, 06:07 PM
The best thing Farr does is keep the ball high after he gets the offensive rebound. Those are almost guaranteed points. It is human nature to swing your arms so that you can jump higher but if you jump earlier than your opponent it doesn't matter how high he jumps, the ball is already in the net.

bobbiemcgee
12-09-2015, 06:14 PM
one foot?

Roach
12-10-2015, 09:54 AM
Jimbo Farr is the second coming of Jason Love.

ArizonaXUGrad
12-10-2015, 11:39 AM
I absolutely love the Senior jump Farr has pulled off. I can't wait to see him against UC's big men on Saturday. The fact that he is a lefty and has post moves makes him tough to defend. A lot of post players have trouble defending naturally left handed players.

Edit: Gives you an idea why Mack took a chance on Kamal who was also a lefty. He just didn't pan out.

XUMIOH12
12-10-2015, 01:25 PM
I absolutely love the Senior jump Farr has pulled off. I can't wait to see him against UC's big men on Saturday. The fact that he is a lefty and has post moves makes him tough to defend. A lot of post players have trouble defending naturally left handed players.

Edit: Gives you an idea why Mack took a chance on Kamal who was also a lefty. He just didn't pan out.

Do you really think that Kamall being left handed factored in to why Mack brought him here?

muskiefan82
12-10-2015, 01:27 PM
Do you really think that Kamall being left handed factored in to why Mack brought him here?

Maybe. Or at least that coupled with his ability to jump off of his left foot only.

birdman71
12-10-2015, 05:27 PM
Jimbo Farr is the second coming of Jason Love.

Yes!!!!

UCGRAD4X
12-10-2015, 05:40 PM
Jimbo Farr is the second coming of Jason Love.

Hi praise indeed.

I do agree that he has earned the comparison to this point.

Xavier has had some notable players patrolling the paint and J Love will always be one of my favorite.

smileyy
12-10-2015, 06:36 PM
My guess is that the value that would be added from Farr's 3P shooting is negated by the way it takes him away from the rim (even when not shooting), where he gets a lot more value on the offensive boards. Kudos to Mack for recognizing this and turning Farr into a force down low.

SemajParlor
12-10-2015, 10:20 PM
You know Xavier is good when the best 6th man in the country might be not even be the best 6th man on the team.

birdman71
12-11-2015, 10:50 AM
You know Xavier is good when the best 6th man in the country might be not even be the best 6th man on the team.

Sounds like something Andy Mac might say.

FIGHTING MUSKETEER
12-11-2015, 11:33 AM
You know Xavier is good when the best 6th man in the country might be not even be the best 6th man on the team.

Ergo, we got the best 6th and 7th man in the country. Has the "best 7 man" term been used/recognized in college basketball?

Olsingledigit
12-11-2015, 12:57 PM
Farr is another example of an XU guy with some raw talent who worked hard and learned how to play the game. Now he's going to make some money playing this game post college.

Well done.

I believe that with his size and rebounding ability he can make it in the NBA, even if just as a bench/role player

Olsingledigit
12-11-2015, 12:57 PM
Ergo, we got the best 6th and 7th man in the country. Has the "best 7 man" term been used/recognized in college basketball?

You might want to trademark it

Roach
12-11-2015, 02:03 PM
You might want to trademark it

I second that.

waggy
12-11-2015, 08:15 PM
I think it's Texas A&M that's trademarked The 12th Man. Actually receive royalties. The Seahawks paid that royalty until A&M jacked the price too high, so Seahawks changed to just "12" or "12th". And they have a bunch of new signage.

American X
12-12-2015, 10:09 AM
I think it's Texas A&M that's trademarked The 12th Man. Actually receive royalties.

You are correct and I am going to have to charge you a shot of Jameson for mentioning it here.

X-man
03-05-2016, 10:01 AM
Bump.