nice article

[Muncie]

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2015/11/23/hoop-thoughts-rule-changes-indiana-creighton-michigan-xavier (scroll down for nice little X write up )

[xu 89]

The 6'3" Edmond Sumner.....I don't think so. He is all of 6'6". I was sitting right behind the bench and the jawing Reynolds was doing to the fans was not good. Mack just walked by him and said "don't let them get to you". It really deserved a more stern response from Mack IMHO.

[XUFan09]

The 6'3" Edmond Sumner.....I don't think so. He is all of 6'6". I was sitting right behind the bench and the jawing Reynolds was doing to the fans was not good. Mack just walked by him and said "don't let them get to you". It really deserved a more stern response from Mack IMHO.
Why would Mack give that response out on the floor when he has plenty of time out of the public eye?

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[THRILLHOUSE]

I was sitting right behind the bench and the jawing Reynolds was doing to the fans was not good. Mack just walked by him and said "don't let them get to you". It really deserved a more stern response from Mack IMHO.

Seemed like Jalen calmed down and didn't interact with the fans anymore, so whatever Mack said worked just fine. No need to go overboard and scream at him like a lunatic.

[X Factor]

Article was written by Seth Davis and he posted his Top 25 ballot for this week. He has Xavier at #21.

[xu82]

The 6'3" Edmond Sumner.....I don't think so. He is all of 6'6". I was sitting right behind the bench and the jawing Reynolds was doing to the fans was not good. Mack just walked by him and said "don't let them get to you". It really deserved a more stern response from Mack IMHO.

They may have subtracted the few inches they added to Dee in recent years.

[kyxu]

The 6'3" Edmond Sumner.....I don't think so. He is all of 6'6". I was sitting right behind the bench and the jawing Reynolds was doing to the fans was not good. Mack just walked by him and said "don't let them get to you". It really deserved a more stern response from Mack IMHO.

I was at the game and saw the interaction, but didn't hear what Jalen said.

What did he say to the fans? Did he instigate it?

[xukeith]

Seemed like Jalen calmed down and didn't interact with the fans anymore, so whatever Mack said worked just fine. No need to go overboard and scream at him like a lunatic.

I am very concerned about him. He was an emotional nut Friday night. He deserved at least 3 technical fouls but got away luckily. I am sure the UC game and perhaps at Butler will make him go mre emotional. His yelling at fans, screaming at players is embarrassing BUT it spreads to street toughness and thugness that is a good thing.

[xufan2434]

I am very concerned about him. He was an emotional nut Friday night. He deserved at least 3 technical fouls but got away luckily. I am sure the UC game and perhaps at Butler will make him go mre emotional. His yelling at fans, screaming at players is embarrassing BUT it spreads to street toughness and thugness that is a good thing.

What's the over/under amount of time into the shootout before Jalen and Octavious get a double tech? 5-10 minutes?

[MADXSTER]

I would assume that the two questionable fouls put him in a poor mood.

[waggy]

I would assume that the two questionable fouls put him in a poor mood.


Please stop with the apologies.

[Xavier]

I really don't care about him yelling at the student section.

[Muskie in dayton]

I really don't care about him yelling at the student section.

- Every bit of focus he puts on them is that much less focus he has to put on the game.

- Why encourage age them with a response?

- Is this the first time he's played before a hostile crowd? Act like you've been there before.

- Those things can escalate and end up bad for a player and a program.

Other than those things, I don't care either.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Why anyone expets anything differently from Reynolds at this point is beyond me. I doubt Mack does. I think he would have reacted more strongly (yes even on the bench in public) to Jalen talking to the students if he did.

I'll take it, Reynolds is more net positive by a long shot. His emotion contributes to his game and our team more positively than negatively. He is who he is, it isnt going to change. He'll be 23 next month, he isnt a young player who just needs to mature. Do I get frustrated with some of the things he does sometimes? Yeah, but I'd be foolish to expect it to change, and again it is mostly not a huge deal.

[waggy]

There are ultimately consequences for people that don't change negative behavior. So not expecting/requiring him to change is a failure of the leadership.

[D-West & PO-Z]

There are ultimately consequences for people that don't change negative behavior. So not expecting/requiring him to change is a failure of the leadership.

Leadership might not see his actions as a negative. Or maybe see it as a net positive when all is considered.

[waggy]

Leadership might not see his actions as a negative. Or maybe see it as a net positive when all is considered.


Well hopefully the program doesn't suffer another brawl blackeye.

The only significant statline the guy has since arriving is technicals.

But all is well!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Well hopefully the program doesn't suffer another brawl blackeye.

The only significant statline the guy has since arriving is technicals.

But all is well!

Ha, Jalen's only significant stat since coming to Xavier is technicals?

Get a life Waggy!

[THRILLHOUSE]

Well hopefully the program doesn't suffer another brawl blackeye.

The only significant statline the guy has since arriving is technicals.

But all is well!

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[waggy]

Okay, he's also good a regular old personal fouls too. He registers one of those every 6.5 minutes.

[Xavier]

- Every bit of focus he puts on them is that much less focus he has to put on the game.

- Why encourage age them with a response?

- Is this the first time he's played before a hostile crowd? Act like you've been there before.

- Those things can escalate and end up bad for a player and a program.

Other than those things, I don't care either.

Reggie Miller always encountered fans. He isn't the only one.Pro athletes do it all the time. LBJ does. Some players it helps fuel them, I don't see it as a problem.

[XMuskieFTW]

Okay, he's also good a regular old personal fouls too. He registers one of those every 6.5 minutes.

Are you part of the angry Michigan fans from the other night? I can't tell.

Yea he's really done nothing. Especially that one time he beasted at St. John's as a freshman and without his performance that game we probably don't make the play in game. But yea he's done nothing.

[Cheesehead]

I get the feeling Waggy is not a big Jalen fan. Well good news for you, he will be gone after this season.

[Muskie]

I get where both sides are coming from. Even Mack gets it. He comments constantly on the post game shows (last year at least) how Jalen has to find away to eliminate the 1-1.5 stupid fouls per game.

There's playing with passion and fire. Then there's playing out of control either physically or emotionally.

From my view Jalen rides that line from time to time. Good player. But for this team to be next level he has to learn how to control it.


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[paulxu]

I didn't see Jalen pick up a T last night.
Maybe he's banking it for the UC game.

[Wheelhouse]

Jalen is teetering on the edge almost all the time but he certainly brings much more good than bad. We just need to hope he doesn't go over the edge at an inopportune time this year like, you know, during the Final Four or something.

[GoMuskies]

We just need to hope he doesn't go over the edge at an inopportune time this year like, you know, during the Final Four or something.

I'm perfectly okay with the notion of Jalen going over the edge at the Final Four.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I didn't see Jalen pick up a T last night.
Maybe he's banking it for the UC game.

Man terrible game for him last night then considering that according to one poster the only significant stat Jalen has since arriving to Xavier is technicals. Hopefully he bounces back next game with 2.

[TUclutch]

Waggy is obviously a clown based on his comments in this thread. Is it frustrating sometimes with Jalen? Sure. But his emotion and attitude is much more of a net positive with how he plays. He feeds off of sticking it to people. I never had any issue with Holloway or Lyons trash talk either. It was part of what made them great players who wouldn't lose. Remember the comeback on the road against was it Vanderbilt? The comeback against Purdue? The smoking of Cincy. Their trash talk isn't the issue for the brawl. The brawl was 100% on UC. But some at Xavier overreacted with their blame and by telling Holloway and Lyons to relax with the talking, basically neutered them. Trash talk doesn't specifically make someone a good player, but as was the case with those two, they played with a chip on their shoulder, and the attitude that no one could beat them. Talking and backing up their talk was part of what made them so good. Same with Jalen. He has had some technicals and emotional problems a few times, but I can't think of a time it blew a game for us. Has he ever been ejected? Im fine with Jalen being Jalen and flexing like he did or doing a little jawing. Trash talk is part of sports. Just back it up

[blueblob06]

Yep I hate having an emtional guy on the team who wants to win and gets fired up during the game, charges up the team and the crowd, and gets frustrated when he struggles, the team struggles, etc.

I'll take the good with the bad any day. The dude is a monster when he's playing well. When he's not, hopefully Farr can step right in and play well in his spot (so far so good this year in that regard).

[waggy]

Waggy is obviously a clown based on his comments in this thread. Is it frustrating sometimes with Jalen? Sure. But his emotion and attitude is much more of a net positive with how he plays. He feeds off of sticking it to people. I never had any issue with Holloway or Lyons trash talk either. It was part of what made them great players who wouldn't lose. Remember the comeback on the road against was it Vanderbilt? The comeback against Purdue? The smoking of Cincy. Their trash talk isn't the issue for the brawl. The brawl was 100% on UC. But some at Xavier overreacted with their blame and by telling Holloway and Lyons to relax with the talking, basically neutered them. Trash talk doesn't specifically make someone a good player, but as was the case with those two, they played with a chip on their shoulder, and the attitude that no one could beat them. Talking and backing up their talk was part of what made them so good. Same with Jalen. He has had some technicals and emotional problems a few times, but I can't think of a time it blew a game for us. Has he ever been ejected? Im fine with Jalen being Jalen and flexing like he did or doing a little jawing. Trash talk is part of sports. Just back it up


Tranlation: It's okay to be an asshole as long as you win.

[blueblob06]

Tranlation: It's okay to be an asshole as long as you win.
How is arguing with the other team being an asshole? Or flexing your muscles when the opposing fans boo you? He didn't shank a guy...

[waggy]

Poor, misunderstood Jalen. All those technicals are someone elses fault.

[XMuskieFTW]

Poor, misunderstood Jalen. All those technicals are someone elses fault.

Yea that "hanging on the rim" was so egregious. He should have to go to a reflection session after that...

[D-West & PO-Z]

Waggy what is your problem? Seriously? You do this frequently where you say something outrageous and tons of people call you on it and instead of just owning up to it you dig your heels in and continue down a path of saying ridiculous things.

Answer one question for me:

Are Jalen's only significant stats since he arrived at Xavier technical and personal fouls?

That is what you said. It is ridiculous, why and how can you defend that? Obviously you dislike Jalen, that is your right, but please dont say such outlandish things because it makes any argument you have that might hold water, moot because everyone stops taking you seriously.

(Ok I had a follow up qestion to the one question)

[waggy]

Waggy what is your problem? Seriously? You do this frequently where you say something outrageous and tons of people call you on it and instead of just owning up to it you dig your heels in and continue down a path of saying ridiculous things.

Answer one question for me:

Are Jalen's only significant stats since he arrived at Xavier technical and personal fouls?

That is what you said. It is ridiculous, why and how can you defend that? Obviously you dislike Jalen, that is your right, but please dont say such outlandish things because it makes any argument you have that might hold water, moot because everyone stops taking you seriously.

(Ok I had a follow up qestion to the one question)


You are in denial. Mack couldn't even start him last year because he fouled so much.

He's put up fair stats here and there. Not nearly as much as he runs his mouth though. #1 jersey my ass...

[D-West & PO-Z]

You are in denial. Mack couldn't even start him last year because he fouled so much.

He's put up fair stats here and there. Not nearly as much as he runs his mouth though. #1 jersey my ass...

You didnt answer my question, if you dont want to, fine just say so.

[waggy]

You didnt answer my question, if you dont want to, fine just say so.

Well, if all the great numbers he's put up are so obvious it shouldn't be that hard for you to cite them right here, right now. What has he done except foul and run his mouth?

[XMuskieFTW]

Well, if all the great numbers he's put up are so obvious it shouldn't be that hard for you to cite them right here, right now. What has he done except foul and run his mouth?

Farr and Bluiett are fouling at almost a similar rate to Reynolds this year so far. LAJ is much higher. We should bench all of them probably since they foul. Also a lot of Jalen's fouls have been pretty weak this year like his last two at Mich.

[waggy]

Farr and Bluiett are fouling at almost a similar rate to Reynolds this year so far. LAJ is much higher. We should bench all of them probably since they foul. Also a lot of Jalen's fouls have been pretty weak this year like his last two at Mich.


Farr and Bullet have how many technicals?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Well, if all the great numbers he's put up are so obvious it shouldn't be that hard for you to cite them right here, right now. What has he done except foul and run his mouth?

Still not answering. Keep on digging.

[NY44]

Agreed that his fouling needs to be addressed and taken a little more seriously. However, saying it's his only significant stat is ridiculous. He averaged 9 and 6 as a sophomore.

It's a problem though. We need him on the floor for at least 20 minutes a game. What happened against Mizzou is unacceptable and won't get the job done later in our schedule.

[XMuskieFTW]

Farr and Bullet have how many technicals?

Both of Jalen's technicals this year were very weak. And I'll gladly trade his two "technicals" for the 31 and 24 he put up in those two games.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I wonder what the policy on this board is about calling Xavier players "assholes"?

[waggy]

Still not answering. Keep on digging.


You still have zip of a defense for Reynolds lack of production. If you could just post something accutrate about Reynolds awesome production, I might have a reason to shut up.

[D-West & PO-Z]

You still have zip of a defense for Reynolds lack of production. If you could just post something accutrate about Reynolds awesome production, I might have a reason to shut up.

He averaged 10 points and 6 rebounds and 1 block per game last year. That was 4th on the team in points, 2nd in rebounds, and first in blocks.

This year 10.5pts, 8 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 1.5 steals, 1 block per game.

Shut up? Thanks.

[waggy]

This year 10.5pts, 8 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 1.5 steals, 1 block per game.

Shut up? Thanks.

Meh. There are other players on the team performing as well or better, and they don't seem to have issues with getting technical fouls.

[XUFan09]

You still have zip of a defense for Reynolds lack of production. If you could just post something accutrate about Reynolds awesome production, I might have a reason to shut up.
League rankings from last season:

Offensive rating: #7 for players with usage rates over 20% ("Significant Contributors"), #12 for all players
Offensive Rebounding Rate: #6
Defensive Rebounding Rate: #4
Block Percentage: #7
Fouls Drawn per 40: #12

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[Chalmers0]

Jalen's ranks in Big East play last year per KenPom:

ORating: 18th
ORebound %: 6th
DRebound %: 2nd
Block %: 6th
Steal %: 19th
2 Point FG %: 2nd

He will also nationally ranked in most of those categories.

But ya, If only he could contribute more...

[D-West & PO-Z]

Meh. There are other players on the team performing as well or better, and they don't seem to have issues with getting technical fouls.

Ha, you are such a joke. Just admit you are wrong, Jalen's only significant stats since coming to XU are not technicals and personal fouls.

[waggy]

And #1 in technical fouls.

[D-West & PO-Z]

And #1 in technical fouls.

So you are wrong?

[XMuskieFTW]

Yea. Rasheed Wallace was a horrible NBA player too right?

[waggy]

So you are wrong?


No I think I'm right that he's #1 in technicals.

[ammtd34]

This is weird.

[waggy]

Yea. Rasheed Wallace was a horrible NBA player too right?


So being a jerk is something to pursue now?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just yet another instance on Xavier Hoops where Waggy is right and everyone else on the board is crazy. Pretty much a monthly occurrence. Carry on.

[Cheesehead]

2014-15 Avg for Staintrain

6.9 reb. 2.4 Ast. 0.6 Blk 0.6 Stl 2.5 PF 2.0 TO 2.0 12.3 Pts.

just as reference. Now feel free to debate

[XMuskieFTW]

So being a jerk is something to pursue now?

I'd rather have a player with attitude than one who is timid and has that negatively affect his game. Jalen's a good guy. Does he let his emotion get the better of him more often than he should? Yessir. Does his attitude and toughness make him better on the floor? Yessir. Either way we are a better team with him even in spite of the technicals and that cannot be argued.

[Milhouse]

And #1 in technical fouls.

You asked for stats.

It was posted he was #2 rebounder in the Big East last year. Then you respond with this.

Is it so difficult to admit you're wrong? Is that not a significant stat? Do you not understand kenpom ratings? I'm seriously asking.

No one on our team is perfect everyone has areas they need to work on. Jalen needs to work on emotions/fouls.

I know this: I'd rather have him on my team than play against him EVERY game of the year.

[casualfan]

Jalen is going to blow at some point this season. My only hope is that it happens early enough in the season and in a way that it is not detrimental to the team long term (i.e. suspension).

Last year we had guys who could be a cushion for him so that when he made those mistakes it didn't hurt the team too much. This year we really only have one functional post player outside of him.

The fire and passion is great to a degree, but he could stand to dial it back a few notches at times.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just to recap for those who dont want to comb through the entire thread. Waggy's position is that:

Jalen is an asshole, jerk who's only significant stats since coming to Xavier are technical and personal fouls.

Not kidding.

[XUFan09]

Let's be clear, guys; the only jerk on this team is Macura, and because he's good at pissing off opponents, it works to Xavier's advantage.

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[XMuskieFTW]

Let's be clear, guys; the only jerk on this team is Macura, and because he's good at pissing off opponents, it works to Xavier's advantage.

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But he gets technical fouls too so he obviously never contributes anything positive!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Did LH hack Waggy's account? I mean this is even bad for Waggy, he can be pretty off the wall but this is another level.

[waggy]

Really no matter how good a player is, no matter what the stats are, it doesn't excuse technical fouls.

[XUFan09]

Jalen is going to blow at some point this season. My only hope is that it happens early enough in the season and in a way that it is not detrimental to the team long term (i.e. suspension).

Last year we had guys who could be a cushion for him so that when he made those mistakes it didn't hurt the team too much. This year we really only have one functional post player outside of him.

The fire and passion is great to a degree, but he could stand to dial it back a few notches at times.
Now that is a reasonable position that I don't think many would disagree with. Not like the absurd position Waggy sticks to.

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[XUFan09]

Really no matter how good a player is, no matter what the stats are, it doesn't excuse technical fouls.
Duh. Technical fouls also don't completely negate everything else.

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[Wheelhouse]

I can't wait to see the board after a couple losses. Four games in and we're already in late season form. Good stuff, everyone.

[Cheesehead]

I got thrown out of a CYO game once. I don't think I am an asshole. 1....2...3..

[GIMMFD]

I can't wait to see the board after a couple losses. Four games in and we're already in late season form. Good stuff, everyone.

Seriously, I think I lost IQ points reading this thread.

[GIMMFD]

I can't wait to see the board after a couple losses. Four games in and we're already in late season form. Good stuff, everyone.

Seriously, I think I lost IQ points reading this thread.

[casualfan]

To me Mack is in a tough spot with Jalen (and although i didn't see it personally it sounds like this played itself out the other night in Ann Arbor in front of some of our fans).

I say he's in a tough spot because of how thin we are when it comes to functional front court players.

If he takes a hardline approach he risks Jalen going into a shell and not being as effective.

If he doesn't take a hardline approach he risks that it'll continue or get worse.

My $0.02 is that if this is going to come to a head let it happen early. If I'm Chris (which i'm obviously not) I would sit him for the remainder of the game the next time he gets a T. I don't care who it's against or what the situation is. He gets a T he's done for the game.

And here's the kicker. If I'm Chris I'm hoping that it happens in a game we lose. That way you have a tangible result to go to him with and say "look man, you're killing the team when you pull that crap. This was against Alabama in November, but what if it was in the elite eight".

Maybe I'm crazy, but i think something like that is the only way you're going to get through.

I love Jalen to death, but for this team to win against decent teams they need him in the game. Michigan is the rare exception of a top 25 team whose bigs suck on toast.

When the non conference gets tough here soon and certainly in conference play we need him (and Jimmy) to be on the court and at their best.

Wake, UC, Nova, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Depaul, Marquette, etc. all have good bigs.

Maybe I'm crazy, but if i was Mack i'd be willing to lose a battle to win the war.

[nuts4xu]

Really no matter how good a player is, no matter what the stats are, it doesn't excuse technical fouls.

You have a zero tolerance policy for technical fouls?

Bravo! Quite noble of you good sir!

[waggy]

You have a zero tolerance policy for technical fouls?

Bravo! Quite noble of you good sir!

Wha? The guy has a tech rate approaching 1 a game.


Someone actually posted that since Reynolds didn't have a tech last night, that the problem is solved.

[X-band '01]

Just yet another instance on Xavier Hoops where Waggy is right and everyone else on the board is crazy. Pretty much a monthly occurrence. Carry on.

At least it's a little more intriguing than the XU 87/ChicagoX/MOR/X-man banter on climate change that we had at this time last month.

[muskiefan82]

Wha? The guy has a tech rate approaching 1 a game.


Someone actually posted that since Reynolds didn't have a tech last night, that the problem is solved.

He was close. He had a moment last night when he almost said/did something that would not have gone well. He was called for a foul and was close to losing it at the official.

[Masterofreality]

At least it's a little more intriguing than the XU 87/ChicagoX/MOR/X-man banter on climate change that we had at this time last month.

You think? X Basketball vs the alleged destruction of the environmental infrastructure?

You're right. Xavier basketball is more legit. :biggrin:

[D-West & PO-Z]

To me Mack is in a tough spot with Jalen (and although i didn't see it personally it sounds like this played itself out the other night in Ann Arbor in front of some of our fans).

I say he's in a tough spot because of how thin we are when it comes to functional front court players.

If he takes a hardline approach he risks Jalen going into a shell and not being as effective.

If he doesn't take a hardline approach he risks that it'll continue or get worse.

My $0.02 is that if this is going to come to a head let it happen early. If I'm Chris (which i'm obviously not) I would sit him for the remainder of the game the next time he gets a T. I don't care who it's against or what the situation is. He gets a T he's done for the game.

And here's the kicker. If I'm Chris I'm hoping that it happens in a game we lose. That way you have a tangible result to go to him with and say "look man, you're killing the team when you pull that crap. This was against Alabama in November, but what if it was in the elite eight".

Maybe I'm crazy, but i think something like that is the only way you're going to get through.

I love Jalen to death, but for this team to win against decent teams they need him in the game. Michigan is the rare exception of a top 25 team whose bigs suck on toast.

When the non conference gets tough here soon and certainly in conference play we need him (and Jimmy) to be on the court and at their best.

Wake, UC, Nova, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Depaul, Marquette, etc. all have good bigs.

Maybe I'm crazy, but if i was Mack i'd be willing to lose a battle to win the war.

TO be honest with you I dont think Mack sees it as nearly the problem some on this board do. Like I said he would have had a much stronger reaction to Jalen saying something to the UM fans than what he did if he expected Jalen to change who he is.

I mean Wagy is up in arms because he got a technical for hanging on the rim while going for the ball on a missed dunk? Is this real life? He has no other significant statistics in Waggy's mind than techs and personal fouls.

Waggy has yet to correct that statement. Hopefully he will hold himself to the standard he holds that "asshole, jerk" Jalen to and comes back with a post acknowledging that he was wrong and just being sensational.

[Wheelhouse]

He was close. He had a moment last night when he almost said/did something that would not have gone well. He was called for a foul and was close to losing it at the official.

He was! And frankly, he usually has 2 or 3 of those moments in every game.

[muskiefan82]

True. It is who he is. If he doesn't play well if he tones it down, then I'll take what we get this way.

[Milhouse]

Really no matter how good a player is, no matter what the stats are, it doesn't excuse technical fouls.

So you've now changed the narrative completely?

Before his only significant stat was technical fouls. That was proven wrong with results. Now you're saying "well stats don't matter"

[waggy]

So you've now changed the narrative completely?

Before his only significant stat was technical fouls. That was proven wrong with results. Now you're saying "well stats don't matter"


Narrative? The guy is more likely to get a technical than to get 10 points. He is more likely to get a technical than not get a technical. That's not a narrative, it's a fact.

[X Factor]

He is more likely to get a technical than not get a technical. That's not a narrative, it's a fact.

How many games has Jalen played in? How many technicals does he have? Yeah, sounds like facts to me.

[D-West & PO-Z]

So you've now changed the narrative completely?

Before his only significant stat was technical fouls. That was proven wrong with results. Now you're saying "well stats don't matter"

Ding, ding. It is what Waggy does.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Narrative? The guy is more likely to get a technical than to get 10 points. He is more likely to get a technical than not get a technical. That's not a narrative, it's a fact.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. You cant even get facts right! HAHHAHAHAHHAHA. I am seriously laughing out loud right now! Everything you just said in factually INCORRECT.

[waggy]

He's been compared to Rasheed Wallace. Except for the basketball production part.

Ha ha.

[D-West & PO-Z]

He's been compared to Rasheed Wallace. Except for the basketball production part.

Ha ha.

It must be a very difficult life to live to never be able to admit you are wrong.

[X-band '01]

It must be a very difficult life to live to never be able to admit you are wrong.


No, it's very easy. This has been covered.

Can't argue with that.

[Milhouse]

Narrative? The guy is more likely to get a technical than to get 10 points. He is more likely to get a technical than not get a technical. That's not a narrative, it's a fact.

Last year 17 games in double figures 9 games with technicals.

Hope you didn't actually go to Xavier with those math skills.

[GoMuskies]

Reynolds is a very talented player who has temper issues.

The end.

[XMuskieFTW]

Wha? The guy has a tech rate approaching 1 a game.


Someone actually posted that since Reynolds didn't have a tech last night, that the problem is solved.

Approaching 1 a game? He had 9 in 37 games last year. That's below a quarter of the games he got T'd in. I guess anything between 0 and 1 is approaching 1 though.

[ammtd34]

Also, his last technical was for hanging on the rim in traffic.

[Xavier]

I love that. "Almost one a game" with 9 in 37 games sums up waggy here. Still, despite the stats, waggy is sticking to his guns.

[waggy]

He's at a 50% tech rate this year, and by some accounts should be at 100%.

[D-West & PO-Z]

He's at a 50% tech rate this year, and by some accounts should be at 100%.

So in other words, not one a game?

[waggy]

Approaching 1 a game.

[Juice]

Approaching 1 a game.

But actually only half of 1 a game? Got it.

[waggy]

But actually only half of 1 a game? Got it.

"Only". Hahaha.

[XMuskieFTW]

Approaching 1 a game.

so anything below 1 is approaching 1? Does 0 still count as approaching 1? Everyone in the nation is approaching 1 a game!

[ammtd34]

Xavier has played 4 games. If he has 15 after 30 games, that's a different issue. 2 in 4, with one being hanging on the rim in traffic, isn't a real issue.

[waggy]

so anything below 1 is approaching 1? Does 0 still count as approaching 1? Everyone in the nation is approaching 1 a game!


Good grief. The fact that his technicals are measurable is ridiculous. Would it matter to you if he averaged 1 a game? Would you then argue it's not as bad as 2?

[waggy]

Xavier has played 4 games. If he has 15 after 30 games, that's a different issue. 2 in 4, with one being hanging on the rim in traffic, isn't a real issue.


It's an issue if he gets 15!

He could have gotten one in every game this year. He's actually lucky he's not at 100%.

[ammtd34]

It's an issue if he gets 15!

He could have gotten one in every game this year. He's actually lucky he's not at 100%.

I didn't say it won't be an issue until he has 15 technicals. I'm saying that having 2 in 4 games isn't an issue because the sample size is too small. I thought that was obvious from my post.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Good grief. The fact that his technicals are measurable is ridiculous. Would it matter to you if he averaged 1 a game? Would you then argue it's not as bad as 2?

Well 1 a game is definitely not as bad as 2. 2 gets you kicked out. Good grief!

[Milhouse]

I mean he has to be just trolling at this point. Right? please tell me that's the case.

[D-West & PO-Z]

He's actually lucky he's not at 100%.

How so? Which specific scenarios in the other games should he have received technicals?

[D-West & PO-Z]

I mean he has to be just trolling at this point. Right? please tell me that's the case.

I wish it was. It isnt.

I am still waiting to hear the board policy on calling Xavier players "assholes" and "jerks".

[chico]

Really glad I decided to check out this thread.

[waggy]

How so? Which specific scenarios in the other games should he have received technicals?

I don't know about last night, but Wheelhouse and maybe someone else felt like he could've received one.

And I got the Missouri and Michigan game mixed up, so I was wrong on that one. Let me repeat, I was wrong!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Let me repeat, I was wrong!

Please keep going...........anything else you were wrong on?

[markchal]

Why are people taking the bait? Waggy clearly isn't being serious. He's trolling, probably because he's bored. No one on this board is actually as dumb as his posts in this thread.

[Backyard Champ]

I don't know about last night, but Wheelhouse and maybe someone else felt like he could've received one.

And I got the Missouri and Michigan game mixed up, so I was wrong on that one. Let me repeat, I was wrong!

Waggy earlier in the thread "he should be at a 100% rate for technicals"

Asked for what he did that should have been a T: "I don't know"

[D-West & PO-Z]

Waggy earlier in the thread "he should be at a 100% rate for technicals"

Asked for what he did that should have been a T: "I don't know"

Well I mean if Wheelhouse and maybe someone else felt like he could've received one the other night, then yeah I mean shouldnt it be 100%?

[Juice]

Well I mean if Wheelhouse and maybe someone else felt like he could've received one the other night, then yeah I mean shouldnt it be 100%?

The refs didn't think so but Wheelhouse did therefore Waggy is right

[Wheelhouse]

The refs didn't think so but Wheelhouse did therefore Waggy is right

How dare you question me!!!

Jalen will very likely be fine. I just hope he keeps his emotions in check at certain times while still playing with a chip. He's a crucial piece to our a team and a very good player.