Other games of Note

[bobbiemcgee]

#1 UNC knocked off by N. Iowa.

[bleedXblue]

This year is wide open. I watched Duke and UK. Both good, but not as good as they have been in years past. Lots can change of course through the year but I think this year you have 15-20 programs that are very close in talent level and capabilities.

[xu82]

#1 UNC knocked off by N. Iowa.

So, when we have the inevitable clunker, let's try to remember not to panic.

[xubrew]

Northern Iowa lost a ton from last year's team that spent pretty much the whole season in the top 25. Hell, lost their home opener to Colorado State.

I believe this is the sixth year in a row that North Carolina has lost to an unranked team in November. Now, to be fair, a couple of those teams got into the rankings and stayed there for the rest of the year (ie Butler last year), but still. We've seen this before. I believe this is the third year in a row UNC has been ranked in the top ten and lost to an unranked team in November. They lost to Butler last year, and Belmont the year before. November just isn't their month, I guess.

[Masterofreality]

Oh NOooooooooooo!

Our RPI dropped to #9 overnight. Horrors!!!!!!!! We're missing the Tournament!!!!!!!

[Masterofreality]

VCU loses to Wiscy. Anybody still want them in the Big East? No?

[GoMuskies]

Anybody still want them in the Big East?

Instead of DePaul? For sure.

[GoMuskies]

USC is 3-0 after cruising past New Mexico yesterday. With VanVleet injured, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Xavier sees USC Friday if we can get past Bama Thursday.

[XUFan09]

VCU loses to Wiscy. Anybody still want them in the Big East? No?
So they lost to a top 100 team?

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[xu82]

So they lost to a top 100 team?

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It will happen to us, eventually. Let's hope it's not a bottom 100 team!

[Masterofreality]

So they lost to a top 100 team?

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They are 2-2 and Havoc went to Texas. Wiscy sucks this year. No thank you. Not for an 11th or 12th team. Carny basketball can stay in the Ocean 10.

[XUFan09]

They are 2-2 and Havoc went to Texas. Wiscy sucks this year. No thank you. Not for an 11th or 12th team. Carny basketball can stay in the Ocean 10.
The other loss was to a top 5 Duke team.

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[Masterofreality]

The other loss was to a top 5 Duke team.

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Who.....cares? Adding an 11th or 12th team to the league in VCU is not in the best interest of the league. Period. Their "star" is fading, and will soon disappear. The magic dust is gone. Maybe not this year, but very, very soon. Smart knew it. That's why he jumped now.

[bleedXblue]

I would gladly take VCU into the BE. Lots of programs have lost great coaches and have been fine. Especially one that is near and dear to all of us.

[Masterofreality]

I would gladly take VCU into the BE. Lots of programs have lost great coaches and have been fine. Especially one that is near and dear to all of us.

Not as an 11th or 12th team. If your going to screw up the 10 team balance, you should be able to do a helluva lot better. And what other schools have been able to do has no bearing on what VCU may do. Pure speculation.

[bleedXblue]

Not as an 11th or 12th team. If your going to screw up the 10 team balance, you should be able to do a helluva lot better. And what other schools have been able to do has no bearing on what VCU may do. Pure speculation.

You're speculating as well?????? Oh my.

[xubrew]

VCU would be a horrible addition, but they'd be an awesome replacement

[Milhouse]

If we're adding a public university then make it UConn if they want to drop football.

[paulxu]

I'm liking the round robin of 10 teams more and more each year.

[xubrew]

If we're adding a public university then make it UConn if they want to drop football.

First, we've gotta find Big Foot!! Then, after that happens, UConn will drop football and we'll add them!

[X Factor]

Wake Forest knocks off Indiana 82-78 in Maui. Overrated!

That should help Wake's RPI though and we play them on the road next month before Christmas.

[X-band '01]

Wake's win was a pleasant surprise after St. John's got trounced by Vandy.

[Xville]

Marquette hangs on to beat lsu...great win for Marquette and the big east. Simmons is the real deal though.

[GoMuskies]

UT-Arlington 68, Memphis 64

Remember when Pastner was considered an up and comer?

[Masterofreality]

UT-Arlington 68, Memphis 64

Remember when Pastner was considered an up and comer?

Pastner sucks...but so does Beaknose. How about those UTA Mavericks???!!!!

Ohio State always scheduling pastry carts finally caught up to them.

[D-West & PO-Z]

OSU down 6 at home to Louisiana Tech right now with 7:27 to go. On Big Ten Network.

[xu82]

OSU down 6 at home to Louisiana Tech right now with 7:27 to go. On Big Ten Network.

Thx, I suppose there ARE greater pleasures than watching THE osu go down at home, but they are not to be mentioned here.

[D-West & PO-Z]

LA Tech beat UT Arlington this year who beat OSU, so I guess this only makes sense!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Game. Set. Match.

[xu82]

How sad.....

[D-West & PO-Z]

Side note: OSU students in front row are wearing shirts that spell out "We are Penn State". HA

[D-West & PO-Z]

How sad.....

Yeah, I'm really broken up over here!

[X-Fan]

Yeah, I'm really broken up over here!

In the immortal words of Jerry Seinfield "That's a shame."

[xu82]

Side note: OSU students in front row are wearing shirts that spell out "We are Penn State". HA

Huh? Sorry, I don't get that one.

[Masterofreality]

Thx, I suppose there ARE greater pleasures than watching THE osu go down at home, but they are not to be mentioned here.

Ah, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... HA!!! Beaknose. *Chuckle* *Guffaw*..

[D-West & PO-Z]

Huh? Sorry, I don't get that one.

Mich State plays Penn State next game and only way for OSU to ake it to Big Ten title game is to beat UM and have Penn St beat Mich St.

[xu82]

Mich State plays Penn State next game and only way for OSU to ake it to Big Ten title game is to beat UM and have Penn St beat Mich St.

Ahhh, now it makes sense. Thx.

[gladdenguy]

Mich State plays Penn State next game and only way for OSU to ake it to Big Ten title game is to beat UM and have Penn St beat Mich St.

Or because Penn St is a terrible basketball team and a cellar dweller in the Big 10.....which Ohio St could be as well this year. With back to back losses to UTA and La Tech at home I don't think they are talking about the football game this weekend.

[X-band '01]

Maybe it's a good thing that Xavier beat Michigan instead of Ohio State this season. The Buckeyes haven't lost a buy game since the 1994-95 season - a season in which they finished a whopping 6-22. They would have been the worst team in Ohio if not for Jim O'Brien and Dayton's Dark Ages.

[muskiefan82]

Maybe it's a good thing that Xavier beat Michigan instead of Ohio State this season. The Buckeyes haven't lost a buy game since the 1994-95 season - a season in which they finished a whopping 6-22. They would have been the worst team in Ohio if not for Jim O'Brien and Dayton's Dark Ages.

There is much truth here. I would much rather spank OSU here is a year they are decent.

[X-band '01]

Western Kentucky did not have a good tournament at the Gulf Coast Classic. Loss to Drake, win over Central Michigan and a loss to Duquesne.

[bleedXblue]

Watching the Maui Invitational IU-UNLV game....listening to Bill Walton is unlike any TV experience I can remember in a long, long time. Dude is wwwaaaayyyy out there.

[bobbiemcgee]

and IU loses another one. Prob. out of top 25.

[Xavgrad08]

I think Crean will be out of a job by the end of March.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Michigan game on channel 340 on DTV. Up 15-14 with 7 left in first half.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Michigan looks terrible.

Trail UCONN 36-22 at the half.

Lavert had 2 fouls and sat a lot of 2nd half of the 1st half.

[XMuskieFTW]

Woof. Signature win not looking so hot.

[D-West & PO-Z]

UM a one man team at this point in season.

[bleedXblue]

I think Crean will be out of a job by the end of March.

I actually think IU will be ok this year......but Crean is on very, very thin ice. Anything less than a tourney appearance and he's out.

[X-Fan]

Michigan looks terrible.

Trail UCONN 36-22 at the half.

Lavert had 2 fouls and sat a lot of 2nd half of the 1st half.

It'll take a few more games but they'll get it figured out. They have talent, just need to get the D shored up & inside play serviceable. Also, UCONN is pretty good and a bad matchup for them.

[XUMIOH12]

Watching the Maui Invitational IU-UNLV game....listening to Bill Walton is unlike any TV experience I can remember in a long, long time. Dude is wwwaaaayyyy out there.

absolutely right. he makes for an entertaining broadcast, but at some points I don't think hes actually watching the game.

[bobbiemcgee]

Northeastern lost to Miami oh last Sun, then beat Miami today.

[bobbiemcgee]

Michigan over NC State

[Masterofreality]

Debateable whether this is truly a "game of note" but our former A10 partner Dookcane is getting pole axed by Pitt in their in-city game by 27, 57-30 at the half.
A10 blows chunks again. Glad we're out of that mess of mediocrity.

[GoMuskies]

Would like to be on the Strip tonight for Oregon and UNLV. Should be fun.

[Masterofreality]

Jamie Dixon has taken over from Bobby Thuggs as the King of the Combover Coif!!

[GoMuskies]

Southern Miss is leading Alabama 39-34 as a 14.5 point home dog.

0-5 Southern Miss, by the way, including a loss to some guy named William Carey.

[waggy]

And it's messing up or RPI. Either that or Missouri is.

And Monmouth lost to Canisius.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wake won tonight, both Mizzou and Bama winning.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wright State lost and is 3-5.

[Masterofreality]

By the way, those minions of YTG are now 59 in RPI with a 176 SOS. We're 2 with a 23 SOS.

You can only hide behind weak schedules for so long.

[X-band '01]

And it's messing up or RPI. Either that or Missouri is.

And Monmouth lost to Canisius.

And that was the Hawks' MAAC opener. I wonder what Jim Baron and Canisius knows about Monmouth that Notre Dame, UCLA and USC did not.

[paulxu]

We're 2 with a 23 SOS.

Au contraire...at least at 8:07 this morning.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

[xubrew]

And that was the Hawks' MAAC opener. I wonder what Jim Baron and Canisius knows about Monmouth that Notre Dame, UCLA and USC did not.

Monmouth's defense in this game was awful. Canisius is decent at home, but if Monmouth wants to be considered a good team as opposed to a team that just happened to beat some good teams early in the season, it's the kind of game they are expected to win.

[GoMuskies]

I'm hoping the Zags run Zona out of Spokane.

[X-Fan]

I'm hoping the Zags run Zona out of Spokane.

Same here. Also, why does everyone love McConnell so much? How is he in he NBA and Tu is not?!? I don't get it.

[X-band '01]

Same here. Also, why does everyone love McConnell so much? How is he in he NBA and Tu is not?!? I don't get it.

Because the Philadelphia 76ers drafted McConnell. As in the 1-20 Philadelphia 76ers.

[xu82]

Someone has to lose between #19 Arizona and #13 Gonzaga. Tied with 9 to go. Can't hurt.

[bleedXblue]

Someone, anyone please help me with the media and networks love of Gonzaga.

They:

1. Play in a shit conference
2. Draw a measly attendance number....like 6,000
3. Underperform regularly in the NCAA tourney

What is it? I don't get it.

[GoMuskies]

Wiltjer and Sabonis are amazing. The rest of Gonzaga's team doesn't impress me.

[xeus]

Nice to see the Hoyas hold serve at home vs Syracuse.

[X Factor]

Zags lose at home to Arizona...hahahaha.

Will the media continue to slobber on the Zags' nuts?

[Xville]

Someone, anyone please help me with the media and networks love of Gonzaga.

They:

1. Play in a shit conference
2. Draw a measly attendance number....like 6,000
3. Underperform regularly in the NCAA tourney

What is it? I don't get it.

They also lost their whole backcourt from last year so how they are ranked this high is a freaking joke. The love they get is unwarranted in my opinion.

[bjf123]

Zags lose at home to Arizona...hahahaha.

Will the media continue to slobber on the Zags' nuts?

Sadly, yes.


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[xubrew]

In every game Gonzaga has lost, they've opened up a lead, and the other team makes second half adjustments to mount a come back. That even happened in some of the games that they won.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Someone, anyone please help me with the media and networks love of Gonzaga.

They:

1. Play in a shit conference
2. Draw a measly attendance number....like 6,000
3. Underperform regularly in the NCAA tourney

What is it? I don't get it.

West coast late night ESPN games, they are almost always on ESPN. That is part of it.

And they are always in the rankings every year during the regular season. That is why I laugh when people say the rankings dont matter throughout the season. We have had more postseason success than Gonzaga over last decade but they have had more regular season success and have been more consistently ranked.

[bleedXblue]

West coast late night ESPN games, they are almost always on ESPN. That is part of it.

And they are always in the rankings every year during the regular season. That is why I laugh when people say the rankings dont matter throughout the season. We have had more postseason success than Gonzaga over last decade but they have had more regular season success and have been more consistently ranked.

If you go back 15 years, they've had some pretty lofty seeds in the tourney and with the exception of maybe last year they've almost always underperformed.

They have "better" regular season records b/c they play in a joke of a conference.

None of what they've done, warrants what they receive.

I have no issue as long as you earn it.

[Xville]

West coast late night ESPN games, they are almost always on ESPN. That is part of it.

And they are always in the rankings every year during the regular season. That is why I laugh when people say the rankings dont matter throughout the season. We have had more postseason success than Gonzaga over last decade but they have had more regular season success and have been more consistently ranked.
You know what else they do? Although I know it is needed because of the conference they are in, but they always play high profile non conference games. That is something I am constantly saying Xavier needs to do more of. I know we are in the big East Yada Yada yada....but I want to see more of the Michigan type games and less of the Wright state ones (though I understand every team needs some buy games.)

[GoMuskies]

You know what else Gonzaga has done? Stomped a mud hole in some pretty good Xavier teams when we played them (with the exception of the NCAA Tournament game that was actually close). And this is an odd conversation with Gonzaga coming off an Elite Eight season.

[Masterofreality]

You know what else Gonzaga has done? Stomped a mud hole in some pretty good Xavier teams when we played them (with the exception of the NCAA Tournament game that was actually close). And this is an odd conversation with Gonzaga coming off an Elite Eight season.

Agree. I just think, however, that Xavier fans, and I include myself in this fully, just get pissed that we, with as many Elite 8's over the years and more Sweet 16's have never seem to have gotten the same kind of love that the little, cute Zags have gotten- and it's all because of ESPN. Why?

I think it's because ESPN has always had SucKS as one of their preferred properties- either in Conference USA, the old Big East and now the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAC. ESPN would always pimp schools in those leagues that they had contracts with and say as little as possible about those that posed a threat to their "preferred properties. Xavier has been a huge thorn in that scenario. Who can forget Jay Bil-ass rant on Selection Sunday a few years ago flatly stating that Xavier did not belong in the Dance to the expense of another Big East team, or their continual commentary on Xavier, with little criticism of SucKS after the brawl? We kept kicking the Borecats' ass and that hurt the ESPN branded product. Meanwhile, Gonzaga fits ESPN perfectly. It fills late evening content time that the four letter network couldn't otherwise fill and there is no ESPN preferred product that it threatens. The PAC12 has always been primarily a Fox Sports contractor. Gonzaga plays in a secondary league that makes it easy for big win seasons that can easily be promoted. To their credit, they have beaten us- one time in a December malaise after the Brawl- and they have played a good non-con schedule- props to them- but Xavier has done the same with scheduling.

So Gonzaga has been an easy mark for the "worldwide leader" while Xavier is just left out there to wallow and that is why we have never gotten the same run- despite having a longer running and better overall record. Just one man's opinion.

[xubrew]

You know what else they do? Although I know it is needed because of the conference they are in, but they always play high profile non conference games. That is something I am constantly saying Xavier needs to do more of. I know we are in the big East Yada Yada yada....but I want to see more of the Michigan type games and less of the Wright state ones (though I understand every team needs some buy games.)

This is important. The reason Gonzaga is always in the headlines is because they play showcase games at a time when no one else really does. How many games were played yesterday between two top twenty name brand teams?? Hell, how many have been played this season?? Not many. It's not a whole lot of fun watching teams go to the bakery and eat cupcakes. Gonzaga has already played three games against ranked teams. So, who do you think the is watching and talking about??

I think they have "earned" it in the sense that they have a complete understanding of the situation they're in, and do a masterful job of working it to their advantage. If they play a tough OOC schedule, they'll get more exposure than virtually everyone else throughout November and December. Then, when conference play kicks in, they'll rise up through the rankings for the same reasons Memphis was able to. The rankings reward teams for not losing. If the #10 team loses to the #4 team, and the #11 team beats a sub-NIT team, the #11 team will leapfrog the #10 team.

I think what they do is brilliant. Play big games. They'll get noticed just for playing them, and they'll get noticed more if they win them. Then, when conference play starts, they'll be able to move up pretty much regardless of where they are. They know how to market themselves. And, they DID make the Elite Eight last year. That's not a bad tournament performance.

[X Factor]

You know what else Gonzaga has done? Stomped a mud hole in some pretty good Xavier teams when we played them (with the exception of the NCAA Tournament game that was actually close). And this is an odd conversation with Gonzaga coming off an Elite Eight season.

I wouldn't say stomped a mud hole. Xavier and Gonzaga have met 4 times. Xavier is 1-3 in those games. The overall point differential in those four games is just 16 points. The last time we played them, I think, was in 2011, shortly after "the brawl". Xavier was still a mess and lost at home by 7 points.

You alluded to the NCAA tournament matchup when Gonzaga was a 3 seed and X was a 14 seed. That game was played out West and we almost beat the Adam Morrison Gonzaga led team.

[waggy]

And this is an odd conversation ...

They are ahead of X in this years poll....

[GoMuskies]

They are ahead of X in this years poll....

Won't be tomorrow

[waggy]

Won't be tomorrow


I agree, but those Zags have amazing staying power.


No homo.

[xubrew]

It works both ways. Lots of teams are either overrated, or at the very least highly ranked without having played anybody yet. What about Iowa State?? They've had their issues in the NCAA Tournament recently, they haven't played anyone that's likely to make the NCAA Tournament this year, their best win against an Illinois team who has struggled (and that's putting it nicely), yet they're ranked #4. No one is talking about how they're overrated. Maybe they're not, but maybe Gonzaga isn't either. They've had two close losses to two highly ranked teams that they led for most of the game.

Gonzaga markets themselves well. I guarantee you there aren't any threads on their board about us. Yet, they're a regular topic of conversation over here, and elsewhere. Gonzaga may be overvalued, but it was nowhere close to being as overvalued as Memphis was for about a five year stretch. Yet, people were quicker to point that out about Gonzaga.

[Masterofreality]

I think what they do is brilliant. Play big games. They'll get noticed just for playing them, and they'll get noticed more if they win them. Then, when conference play starts, they'll be able to move up pretty much regardless of where they are. They know how to market themselves. And, they DID make the Elite Eight last year. That's not a bad tournament performance.

Maybe brilliant, but certainly not original or maybe even a copy of what Xavier has done for years when we played in a non-power conference. Remember playing Louisville in the preseason NIT in 1988, or going to Florida or LSU or Wisconsin or Tennessee or, or, or...? Gonzaga would not be playing all those games if they were in the Big 12 or even the Big East. They play 20 games a year vs garbage,- like we used to in the Atlantic 14.

No props to Gonzaga for originality.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It works both ways. Lots of teams are either overrated, or at the very least highly ranked without having played anybody yet. What about Iowa State?? They've had their issues in the NCAA Tournament recently, they haven't played anyone that's likely to make the NCAA Tournament this year, their best win against an Illinois team who has struggled (and that's putting it nicely), yet they're ranked #4. No one is talking about how they're overrated. Maybe they're not, but maybe Gonzaga isn't either. They've had two close losses to two highly ranked teams that they led for most of the game.

Gonzaga markets themselves well. I guarantee you there aren't any threads on their board about us. Yet, they're a regular topic of conversation over here, and elsewhere. Gonzaga may be overvalued, but it was nowhere close to being as overvalued as Memphis was for about a five year stretch. Yet, people were quicker to point that out about Gonzaga.

They have been amazing marketers, definitely one area none of us can argue they have put us to shame in. Now maybe that isnt all to their credit and all to X's blame but at least a big chunk of it might be.

[xudash]

Many good points being made here.

I'll only suggest that I would rather be Xavier than Gonzaga in 2015 and moving forward. Three words: Big East Member.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Many good points being made here.

I'll only suggest that I would rather be Xavier than Gonzaga in 2015 and moving forward. Three words: Big East Member.

Yeah, Gonzaga has been extremely successful in being a great program even in a small conference but overall I agree I would rather be in our position moving forward. Our recruiting is very good now but I think it will only continue to get better as the BE proves itself to remain a premiere college basketball conference.

[GoMuskies]

VCU and FSU are playing in Atlanta...which makes NO sense.

[xubrew]

VCU and FSU are playing in Atlanta...which makes NO sense.

For whatever reason that's where Florida State wanted to play. Most of their team is from Georgia. Not sure if that's got anything to do with it or not. I think they want to play one game a year there from now on though.

[D-West & PO-Z]

What arena they playing at?

[GoMuskies]

What arena they playing at?

Phillips Arena. Looks like about 3,000 in attendance.

[xubrew]

Yeah, it's not quite what Duke draws when they play in Jersey. I'm not even sure there's 3000 there.

[Masterofreality]

VCU again comes up just short against a power-5 team as Rams fall to Florida St in Atlanta by 5.

VCU was a coach,not a program. #NoBigEast

[xudash]

VCU and FSU are playing in Atlanta...which makes NO sense.

The Seminoles in Atlanta? Sure, that makes sense.

Hello everyone, I'm the dumbest AD in America. I'm taking one of our BASKETBALL games that few of our fans care about to begin with and I'm going to move it about 4 hours up the road to a town that has pro sports, a ton of SEC fans and Georgia Tech. Seriously, out of that 3k number, I have to wonder how many zealous VCU fans account for it.

[paulxu]

Announced attendance, 1786.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400825730

[xubrew]

Announced attendance, 1786.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400825730

Well next year they can play at Georgia State.

[Tardy Turtle]

Gonzaga blah blah blah
Draw a measly attendance number....like 6,000
blah blah blah

I was thinking that could be because capacity at McCartney Athletic Center is... (wait for it)... 6000.

Google be yo' friend and shit.

[muskiefan82]

Google be yo' friend and shit.

That is actually funny.

[Masterofreality]

I was thinking that could be because capacity at McCartney Athletic Center is... (wait for it)... 6000.

Google be yo' friend and shit.

Endorsed...and repped!

[Masterofreality]

I was thinking that could be because capacity at McCartney Athletic Center is... (wait for it)... 6000.

Google be yo' friend and shit.

Do they have Champagne Rooms just outside the McCartney Center for special viewing by the Glitterati who don't want to mix with the proletariat?

[bleedXblue]

Zags lose again. RPI in the 60's. Wonder if they will still be ranked?????

[X-man]

Zags lose again. RPI in the 60's. Wonder if they will still be ranked?????

Of course they will. The media has the same kind of woodie for them that they do about the perennially over-rated ND football team.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Miami beat Wright State.

1-5 NKU up double digits on 4-4 Norfolk State.

Arizona running away from Mizzou in first half.

WKU beat Indiana State.

USC beat Yale.

Alabama beat Clemson.

[muskiefan82]

xxxxxxxx. beat Wright St.

This will likely be repeated over and over this year.

[Masterofreality]

Jeff Goodman Tweet:

"@GoodmanESPN: LSU hasn’t done anything - yet. But take look at resumes of teams that would sneak into tourney right now. Tigers can make up ground quick."

ESPN is so desperate for one of their pimped products to excell that they can't stop pumping up Ben Simmons and LSU. It is really disgusting.

LSU is abjectly horrific, and ESPN is just sad anymore.

[xubrew]

Jeff Goodman Tweet:

"@GoodmanESPN: LSU hasn’t done anything - yet. But take look at resumes of teams that would sneak into tourney right now. Tigers can make up ground quick."

ESPN is so desperate for one of their pimped products to excell that they can't stop pumping up Ben Simmons and LSU. It is really disgusting.

LSU is abjectly horrific, and ESPN is just sad anymore.

He's right though. LSU hasn't done anything yet. Neither has Rutgers. And, like LSU, if Rutgers blows through the Big Ten they can make up ground pretty quick.

In other news, the ball is still shaped like a sphere, but that could change!

[Xville]

Jeff Goodman Tweet:

"@GoodmanESPN: LSU hasn’t done anything - yet. But take look at resumes of teams that would sneak into tourney right now. Tigers can make up ground quick."

ESPN is so desperate for one of their pimped products to excell that they can't stop pumping up Ben Simmons and LSU. It is really disgusting.

LSU is abjectly horrific, and ESPN is just sad anymore.

Lsu may not be all that good but Simmons is probably the best player in college basketball so I would like to see him on the sports biggest stage...of course lsu will need to earn it.

[D-West & PO-Z]

UC won
Wake won
Michigan beat NKU
Miami won
Auburn won

[GoMuskies]

Bo Ryan just quit. Marquette was his last loss.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Alabama wins
Western KY wins

[Masterofreality]

Alabama wins
Western KY wins

Yeah, Alabama beat the Fighting Kelseys, handily. Funny (but not really) to see Zach Price- former St. Eds kid- playing for Kelsey. Price is a sad example of how sometimes kids get used in the college recruiting process. He was doing fine at St. Eds, but got recruited hard by Slick Rick Pitino. Pitino then wanted him to move to Louisville for his Senior HS year so he could monitor his development better so, Price and his mother were uprooted and moved to Louisville. He never made much of a splash at Louisville then transferred to Winthrop and to Kelsey. He scored 2 points in 13 minutes.

[Xville]

Yeah, Alabama beat the Fighting Kelseys, handily. Funny (but not really) to see Zach Price- former St. Eds kid- playing for Kelsey. Price is a sad example of how sometimes kids get used in the college recruiting process. He was doing fine at St. Eds, but got recruited hard by Slick Rick Pitino. Pitino then wanted him to move to Louisville for his Senior HS year so he could monitor his development better so, Price and his mother were uprooted and moved to Louisville. He never made much of a splash at Louisville then transferred to Winthrop and to Kelsey. He scored 2 points in 13 minutes.

Poor Zach Price...seriously? He was a four star top 100 player who was lazy at Louisville and hardly ever saw the floor. Then this happened....
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2015947-zach-price-arrested-latest-details-comments-and-more-surrounding-missouri-f

The guy is a piece of crap and doesn't even deserve to be on a basketball roster.

[xu82]

Poor Zach Price...seriously? He was a four star top 100 player who was lazy at Louisville and hardly ever saw the floor. Then this happened....
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2015947-zach-price-arrested-latest-details-comments-and-more-surrounding-missouri-f

The guy is a piece of crap and doesn't even deserve to be on a basketball roster.

To be arrested twice in one day is a pretty impressive feat!

(Not in a good way...)

[Masterofreality]

Poor Zach Price...seriously? He was a four star top 100 player who was lazy at Louisville and hardly ever saw the floor. Then this happened....
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2015947-zach-price-arrested-latest-details-comments-and-more-surrounding-missouri-f

The guy is a piece of crap and doesn't even deserve to be on a basketball roster.

Not disagreeing, but all that crap happened after he and his mother were convinced to move to Louisville, removing him from his boyhood comfort zone. Pitino sold them a bill of goods and disrupted the lives when Price was solid at St. Eds. Sure, the Prices bear responsibility for their actions, but it doesn't minimize the sadness of the recruiting process misuse. All you're pointing out is the rest of the story.

More blame falls on Slimeball Pitino for precipitating the downhill slide of a kid and Mom who were clueless. Many times, these kids and families put trust in these figures like Ricky, and so many times they are thrown out like bath water.

[GoMuskies]

If they'd have set him up at St. X instead of J-town, all would have worked out. Seriously, how can you move a kid to J-town and not expect him to get all fucked up?

[Smails]

In similar news, Art Long is heading back to the klink for a 7 year stretch.

[Masterofreality]

If they'd have set him up at St. X instead of J-town, all would have worked out. Seriously, how can you move a kid to J-town and not expect him to get all fucked up?

This!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wright State won tonight

[X-band '01]

(checks to make sure it was against a Division I team)

Yeah, Charleston Southern counts.

[XUFan09]

(checks to make sure it was against a Division I team)

Yeah, Charleston Southern counts.
Lol

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[GoMuskies]

Wright State won tonight

Under no circumstances can Wright State and Charleston Southern be described as a game of note.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Under no circumstances can Wright State and Charleston Southern be described as a game of note.

Ha just like to see who we beat keep winning (minus UC of course) not matter who they play.

[Masterofreality]

(checks to make sure it was against a Division I team)

Yeah, Charleston Southern counts.

Awesome! Ha!

[muskiefan82]

Wright State won tonight

This is not something that will be written many times this year, I think.

[xubrew]

There is no reason for Wright State to be as bad as they are. They should be a consistent conference frontrunner with the resources they have. For crissake NKU is a transitional program, and they look to be in better shape than Wright State at the moment.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wake wins
Miami loses

[STL_XUfan]

The Johnnies lose to Incarnate Word by a lot. Can someone please explain St John's to me?

[D-West & PO-Z]

WKU loses to Louisville

[X-band '01]

Duke goes down to Utah in New York; North Carolina is looking solid against UCLA in Brooklyn. Will Xavier have a single-digit ranking or will Duke and UNC merely trade places?

[xavierj]

Duke goes down to Utah in New York; North Carolina is looking solid against UCLA in Brooklyn. Will Xavier have a single-digit ranking or will Duke and UNC merely trade places?

Xavier will pass Duke and most likely KY both are vastly overrated.

[Xville]

Xavier will pass Duke and most likely KY both are vastly overrated.

I agree about duke. Kentucky I dunno...they aren't as good on the inside as they usually are but their guards are. They will get better as the year goes on. And now that I just defended kentucky, I'm gonna go vomit

[xavierj]

I agree about duke. Kentucky I dunno...they aren't as good on the inside as they usually are but their guards are. They will get better as the year goes on. And now that I just defended kentucky, I'm gonna go vomit

Did you just watch the first half against a bad Ohio State team? They look terrible.

[X-band '01]

Where has this Ohio State team been all year?

[Xville]

Did you just watch the first half against a bad Ohio State team? They look terrible.

Yes but living in kentucky, I have seen them play a ton.

[xavierj]

Where has this Ohio State team been all year?

Its the same team. Bad either way...

[xavierj]

Yes but living in kentucky, I have seen them play a ton.

If so what impresses you about them? I live in KY too and this team is similar to NIT team from a few years ago.

[Xville]

If so what impresses you about them? I live in KY too and this team is similar to NIT team from a few years ago.

Murray and ullis impress me...their front court though is thin and not as skilled as usual. They are way more talented than the nit team in my opinion.

[GoMuskies]

The NIT team was okay until Noel got hurt. Kind of like this team.

[xudash]

YTG and the Kittens take out the A10's VCU. 69 / 63.

[xavierj]

The NIT team was okay until Noel got hurt. Kind of like this team.

Except they dont have a Noel. Ohio State is bad and they just got drilled by them.

[Juice]

X has to pass UK in the polls now right?

[X-band '01]

They'll also pass Purdue if Butler keeps this up.

[bleedXblue]

X has to pass UK in the polls now right?

Without a doubt. Looks like they should come in around #7-8

[gladdenguy]

Jump Duke, UK, and Purdue. Not a bad week.

Butler is good. Wow New Years Eve and Jan 2nd gonna be intense.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Jump Duke, UK, and Purdue. Not a bad week.

Butler is good. Wow New Years Eve and Jan 2nd gonna be intense.

Ugh, I hate the noon NYE game. I'm working, I dont know what my plan of action is going to be. I usually would just record, avoid the internet, then watch when home but I have to travel and a party after work. Still thinking about that one.

I got tickets last week to the Butler game though, really looking forward to that.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Michigan won

[LA Muskie]

Pretty good day for us. Butler knocks off Purdue on a neutral floor. That will open up another spot inside the Top 10 for us and should ultimately help our RPI to boot. Cincy pulls off a big win at VCU, which will boost our RPI (say what you want, but I care much more about our resume than hating on UC). Would have been nice to see 'Nova take down UVA in Charlottesville, but I won't be greedy.

I don't think UK will fall out of the Top 10 with a neutral floor loss to OSU (they get a ton of respect from the voters, and most won't view it as a bad loss) but we should still pass them. But we should leap-frog Duke and Purdue -- and Iowa State if they don't come back -- which would put us at #6 in the polls. (And with that, I surely just jinxed us...).

[D-West & PO-Z]

NKU about to win.

[LA Muskie]

NKU about to win.
UNI up 3 and the ball w/ less than 1 to play.

[LA Muskie]

Phew! I didn't jinx us. And we're movin' on up even further...

[D-West & PO-Z]

UNI up 3 and the ball w/ less than 1 to play.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

[Xville]

I'm thinking we come in around 7...either we don't pass uk, or unc leapfrogs us because they are unc

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm thinking we come in around 7...either we don't pass uk, or unc leapfrogs us because they are unc

You think UK would only drop 2 spots after their second loss, this time to a really bad team?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Missed yesterday:

Mizzou lost
UD won

[Masterofreality]

YTG and the Kittens take out the A10's VCU. 69 / 63.

Anyone still want VCU in the Big East?

Nah, didn't think so.

[LA Muskie]

Anyone still want VCU in the Big East?

Nah, didn't think so.

Anyone think coming to that conclusion 10 games into a transition season is just a tad bit premature?


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[MauriceX]

Anyone think coming to that conclusion 10 games into a transition season is just a tad bit premature?


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While this is a salient point, my not wanting VCU has nothing to do with their performance, and everything to do with the 10 team league.

[Masterofreality]

Anyone think coming to that conclusion 10 games into a transition season is just a tad bit premature?


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No. VCU was a coach. It is NOT a program.

Hell, let's just let George Mason in.

[XUFan09]

Anyone think coming to that conclusion 10 games into a transition season is just a tad bit premature?


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[Juice]

No. VCU was a coach. It is NOT a program.

Hell, let's just let George Mason in.

They were a good program under Capel and Grant before Smart got there.

[Masterofreality]

They were a good program under Capel and Grant before Smart got there.

Good...in the CAA. No props.

Smart left when he knew he should have....at the beginning of the end.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Alabama and Oregon in a good one on ESPNU. All tied at 60 just under 6 to go. Bama was down 8 and Coleman just scored 8 straight to tie it up for bama.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Dino and this other announcer kind of confuse about what the refs were reviewing, just made their own thing up. Don't know why but it makes me angry when the announcers clearly dont know what they are talking about while it is clear to almost everyone at home.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Bama goes down at home.

[GoMuskies]

UC is a 4.5 point favorite over Iowa State tomorrow.

I was also a bit surprised to see Oakland is only an 8.5 point dog against Michigan State and that Murray State is a 2.5 point dog at Wright State. Also, Fordham is a 3.5 point favorite over BC, which isn't a huge surprise this year, but seeing Fordham favored over an ACC team happens so rarely that it's worth noting.

[GoMuskies]

Looks like USC will be 10-2 at the end of the night. Xavier remains the only team USC has played this year that they have not beaten.

[X Factor]

Bama goes down at home.

They blew a 12 point halftime lead.

[XUMIOH12]

UC is a 4.5 point favorite over Iowa State tomorrow.

I was also a bit surprised to see Oakland is only an 8.5 point dog against Michigan State and that Murray State is a 2.5 point dog at Wright State. Also, Fordham is a 3.5 point favorite over BC, which isn't a huge surprise this year, but seeing Fordham favored over an ACC team happens so rarely that it's worth noting.

Oakland has a pretty good team this year, they can really score, and Valentine is out for MSU.

[MauriceX]

Dino and this other announcer kind of confuse about what the refs were reviewing, just made their own thing up. Don't know why but it makes me angry when the announcers clearly dont know what they are talking about while it is clear to almost everyone at home.

I completely agree. I think it's because it makes you feel like you could do a better job than them. Combine that with the fact that they get paid to watch sports for a living, and the anger makes sense in my book.

[DoubleD86]

I completely agree. I think it's because it makes you feel like you could do a better job than them. Combine that with the fact that they get paid to watch sports for a living, and the anger makes sense in my book.

For me, it's not that they make a mistake or see something incorrectly that bothers me. What gets me is when they try to call something during live action, and then during the replay are clearly wrong but won't deviate from their initial call. Like they couldn't possibly be wrong so they will keep saying what they thought regardless of video evidence otherwise.

[D-West & PO-Z]

For me, it's not that they make a mistake or see something incorrectly that bothers me. What gets me is when they try to call something during live action, and then during the replay are clearly wrong but won't deviate from their initial call. Like they couldn't possibly be wrong so they will keep saying what they thought regardless of video evidence otherwise.

Yeah or one announcer says something blatantly wrong and there is apparently this unwritten rule that the other guy couldnt possibly correct him. So annoying. I think Mauricex hit on something too its that when they make such dumb errors you start to think I could do this better than them. I know that isnt reality but the mess ups that really make me even more mad are things that arent that obvious that I know what is going on but the announcers are missing the boat and are announcing to fans who might not really know whats going on and misleading them. That is when I really think "you idiots, how do I know this and you dont".

Yesterday's example was as follows:

Oregon had the ball and got tied up for a jump ball after a blocked shot and there was 10 seconds on the shot clock, but the shot clock I saw was reset to 30 seconds. Right away I knew that was a mistake and it should have remained at 10 seconds. The announcers dont mention anything and then the refs go to review something. Dino starts talking about how they are going to review the last basket for Oregon which was called a 3 pointer. The other announcer is all like yeah good call you and the refs are on top of that and going on and on about this last 3 point shot even going to a replay of it. All the while I am yelling at the TV they are looking at the shot clock idiots. The refs meanwhile make no mention of gesture about the shot but as soon as the review is over look over to the scorers table and the shot clock and hold up a 1 and a zero to signal the shot clock to be at 10 seconds. Meanwhile the announcers are still talking about the 3 point shot and then they casually mention, the shot clock is at 10 seconds without ever correcting that that was what was being reviewed.

Yes this made me upset, yes I have problems.

[paulxu]

Yes this made me upset, yes I have problems.

Just call Uncle Paulie. I can help. Take the following, and call me in the morning.

http://www.britishfoodinamerica.com/images/editorial/Winter-2013/Makers_Mark_46.jpg

[Masterofreality]

Soooooooooo,

Auburn beat New Mexico today in Hawaii. OoooooooKKKKKKK!!!

[paulxu]

Oakland (???) leading MSU in OT?

[Cheesehead]

Bear kittens choke at home. Nice night!

[chico]

That Felder kid for Oakland reminds me of a young Lenny Brown.

[Emp]

Cal leading virginia

[Emp]

Mercer hanging with Buckeyes

[X Factor]

Dayton beat Miami 64-63 on a last second shot.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Dayton beat Miami 64-63 on a last second shot.

Wow, funny.

[D-West & PO-Z]

You guys see that Florida player score his first two career points tonight? He is a preferred walk on. Has no left hand. Pretty awesome.

[D-West & PO-Z]

UVA/CAL on ESPN 2. Tied game, Cal should get last shot!

Lets go Cal!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wow, Cal stripped of ball on way up for shot. Not really a good play.

[Xtemporaneous]

Cal with a late surge. So glad Cuonzo Martin went there.

[D-West & PO-Z]

62-60 Cal 22.3 sec left, UVA ball.

[X Factor]

If UVA loses, X will be movin' on up in the polls.

[D-West & PO-Z]

If UVA loses, X will be movin' on up in the polls.

Yes top 5!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Ugh

[D-West & PO-Z]

UVA back to back 3's on last 2 possesions to go up 1.

[XUFan09]

Cal player drove into three defenders trying to draw a foul, I suppose. Martin really wanted the timeout but couldn't call it himself.

UVA missed the FT. Of course, now Cal has to go full court with 2.5 seconds left unlike before when they had 10.0 seconds.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Cal ball down 1 2.5 sec, inbounding from under their own basket.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Top 5 may have to wait.

Boo.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Could be possible (although not likely) that our road win by 8 is enough to impress voters coupled with UVA escaping at home to push us ahead. I'd love that top 5 ranking.

[KabeX]

You can make an argument that our win on the road .. ah never mind. I'm good with where we are. That would be 12 and freakin ooooooohhhhh

[bleedXblue]

I hope no one loses any sleep if we don't move up in the polls. Its still December. Lots of basketball to be played. Be happy with the W tonight, 12-0 and off to take on Villanova.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wright State won
WKU won

[XUFan09]

Wright State won

That's a three-game win streak to push them into the top 200. I never would have expected that.

[Masterofreality]

Harvard is laying the wood to Auburn - by 18- with 10 to go in the second half.

[xubrew]

Harvard is laying the wood to Auburn - by 18- with 10 to go in the second half.

Harvard's December is going a hell of a lot better than their November.

[X Factor]

Kareem Canty shot 1-15 today vs Harvard.

[xu82]

Kareem Canty shot 1-15 today vs Harvard.

I think the game at Cintas just sucked the life out of him.....it seemed he couldn't miss, and where did it get him? Did he have about 25? The only reason they didn't lose by 40. Haha

[X Factor]

Oklahoma up 41-40 on Hawaii at the half.

Go Rainbow Warriors!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Mizzou loses
Auburn loses
Michigan wins
NKU wins
USC up early in first half

[xu82]

#3 Oklahoma seems certain to hold on. Up 5 with 23 seconds left.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Halfcourt heave to tie no good OK survives.

[X-band '01]

Not a Merry Christmas for Auburn; they now have losses to Harvard and Hawai'i. Harvard did look impressive at times against Oklahoma, but will they be able to retain that momentum once the Ivy League starts up?

[X Factor]

Not a Merry Christmas for Auburn; they now have losses to Harvard and Hawai'i. Harvard did look impressive at times against Oklahoma, but will they be able to retain that momentum once the Ivy League starts up?

Kareem Canty was called for his 4th foul with about 8 minutes left and Auburn was leading by around 6-8 points. It was a ridiculously bad call, but Pearl had to sit him. When I switched back to the game, Auburn was down 10 with just a couple of minutes left.

Auburn will look great for short stretches and then just awful for other stretches. They were missing one of their starters last night.

[GoMuskies]

Hawaii and Harvard are good teams. Neither were bad losses.

[xu82]

Kareem Canty was called for his 4th foul with about 8 minutes left and Auburn was leading by around 6-8 points. It was a ridiculously bad call, but Pearl had to sit him. When I switched back to the game, Auburn was down 10 with just a couple of minutes left.

Auburn will look great for short stretches and then just awful for other stretches. They were missing one of their starters last night.

Auburn will go as Canty goes. The really cool part is we've got a half dozen or so guys who can play that roll. Sweet!

[X-band '01]

Harvard is good, but they got off to such a slow start this year. Hawai'i is good, but they've also played all but one of their games at home. I'm not completely sold on them yet.

[xubrew]

Harvard is good, but they got off to such a slow start this year. Hawai'i is good, but they've also played all but one of their games at home. I'm not completely sold on them yet.

I agree about Hawaii. I think they're a top 25 team at home, and a sub NIT team on the road.

I also think Harvard will end up having a big year. They just got off to a craptacular start. They sucked in their Bean Pot games. Other than that, they've been pretty good.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Monmouth loses to Army.

[D-West & PO-Z]

WKU wins

[XUFan09]

Monmouth loses to Army.
Ouch. They actually look like a legit team, but they have to avoid the bad losses.

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[xubrew]

Ouch. They actually look like a legit team, but they have to avoid the bad losses.

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It's not good to lose to Army, but it won't kill them. They've done enough to offset it, and Army looks to be one of hte better teams in the Patriot League. Still, a tournament caliber team should be able to win there, but they have eight wins away from home and are the only team that's won at UCLA. I still think they're fine so long as they don't make a habit of it.

[xu82]

UC goes down to Temple. How sad.....

I was actually hoping UC would do great the rest of the year (because it's good for X) until I met the UC fan who wanted to crack my head open for wearing an X shirt.

[D-West & PO-Z]

UC goes down to Temple. How sad.....

I was actually hoping UC would do great the rest of the year (because it's good for X) until I met the UC fan who wanted to crack my head open for wearing an X shirt.

A final Christmas present! Yeah buddy!

[X-band '01]

Too bad they won't climb in the polls after a Temple loss.

[xu82]

A final Christmas present! Yeah buddy!

Just like it was tucked back in the corner behind the tree.....until NOW!

[X-band '01]

Just like the good old days when Temple would rack up an ugly OOC record and ruin their conference's NCAA prospects in conference play. I'm glad they're sabotaging the American now.

[PM Thor]

Kenpom gave UC an 88% chance to win vs Temple. That's a bad loss. Plus, if you really look at their schedule, they've played 6 games vs teams above the 200 RPI watermark (2 of those over 300). In perspective, X has two over 200.

[THRILLHOUSE]

and right on queue, Mick says the same thing he says after every UC loss:

"@apjoekay #Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin apologizes to former UC players for way current team is performing: "We lack toughness. Period. End of story.""

[xu82]

and right on queue, Mick says the same thing he says after every UC loss:

"@apjoekay #Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin apologizes to former UC players for way current team is performing: "We lack toughness. Period. End of story.""

So today's guys who lack toughness are letting down previous generations who also lacked toughness. That toughness is elusive stuff!

[drudy23]

He wants so bad to be Huggins...well, all for the alcoholism and heart attacks.

[xudash]

Just like it was tucked back in the corner behind the three.....until NOW!

Are you back on Cleaney getting hammered right now?

[XMuskieFTW]

He should have physically removed their jerseys after that loss.

[xu82]

Are you back on Cleaney getting hammered right now?

Ha! They tore my poor old house down. Can't believe it survived us. (It was, I believe, briefly condemned upon our departure.) This was a case of old eyes and fingers failing me. Among other things. Thanks for bolding it, or I might have been left just scratching my head.

[D-West & PO-Z]

and right on queue, Mick says the same thing he says after every UC loss:

"@apjoekay #Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin apologizes to former UC players for way current team is performing: "We lack toughness. Period. End of story.""

HA! Classic! Apologizing to former players is a great touch! LOL

[xu82]

HA! Classic! Apologizing to former players is a great touch! LOL

He's probably FedExing the recently forcibly removed jerseys to the old, formerly un-tough guys as we type!

[MuskieXU]

Who would have thought that after today Wake would have a better resume and be a better win than UC?

[bobbiemcgee]

MSU@Iowa - Big ten network - Iowa currently up by 7

[Xville]

Who would have thought that after today Wake would have a better resume and be a better win than UC?

That brings up an interesting debate...who do we think is going to be our biggest non conference win by the numbers at the end of the regular season? I'm still thinking michigan.

[Masterofreality]

That brings up an interesting debate...who do we think is going to be our biggest non conference win by the numbers at the end of the regular season? I'm still thinking michigan.

Maybe VDump?

[MuskieXU]

That brings up an interesting debate...who do we think is going to be our biggest non conference win by the numbers at the end of the regular season? I'm still thinking michigan.

Thats a good question. I think UC, Michigan, and Dayton will all be pretty comparable top 50 RPI wins at the end of the season but I'd give Michigan the nod since it was a true road game. Wake, USC, and Bama all seem to be pretty decent but I dont see any of the 3 being able to compete in their conference day in day out well enough to crack the top 50 in RPI.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Alabama escapes Jacksonville St in OT
Wake wins at LSU

[XMuskieFTW]

Missouri with a win over Arkansas pine bluff 78-25. Yes. A division one team put up 25 lol

[D-West & PO-Z]

Missouri with a win over Arkansas pine bluff 78-25. Yes. A division one team put up 25 lol

5 more than SLU's record low 20 about 9-10 years ago.

[D-West & PO-Z]

5 more than SLU's record low 20 about 9-10 years ago.

7 for 48 for the game.

and it was Jan of 2008, so 8 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q2-TA2BTzA

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=280100045

[D-West & PO-Z]

7 for 48 for the game.

and it was Jan of 2008, so 8 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q2-TA2BTzA

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=280100045

Crazy thing is they took a #17 ranked UD to OT the next game but lost and beat #23 URI the game after. They also lost to #13 XU by only 2 that year (a game that I was at on my birthday at SLU my senior year there).

[X-band '01]

Michigan is blowing open a close game with the Illini. Currently 61-51 U-M.

[Masterofreality]

Michigan is blowing open a close game with the Illini. Currently 61-51 U-M.

Yeah, we need the Wolverines to start living up to their press clippings.

[Bearcat_Bounce]

He wants so bad to be Huggins...well, all for the alcoholism and heart attacks.

Something is wrong with him. He looks like a ghost on the sidelines. Has done an awful job of coaching so far this season.

[BMoreX]

4. Maryland down 9 to Penn State with 6 to go.

[Xville]

Seton hall is a legit big East contender.

[homogeneous weasel]

Maybe VDump?

dayton is trying its best to spoil that for you. Blowing a 23 point first half lead at home against Arkansas, and then missing it's last 4 free throws and allowing a 3 to send the game into overtime.

I'm watching the game with my Dayton-born father in law, trying to look at least a little sad for him.

[homogeneous weasel]

And Dayton survives, despite every effort to give the game away.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Michigan wins
UD wins (Pierre played (not sure how many mins) and went 4-12 from the field with 11pts, 4rebs, 3assists, 4 fouls)
NKU loses