Other games of Note

[D-West & PO-Z]

UC wins
Michigan wins
Auburn wins
Alabama wins
Dayton wins
NKU loses
Mizzou wins
Miami loses
Wright State wins

[GoMuskies]

Purdue forgot to play the second half today. Iowa is about to be quite highly ranked.

[LA Muskie]

Great week for Iowa (basketball) that's for sure. But they're currently unranked so there's only so high they can realistically enter the rankings.


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[GoMuskies]

I bet it starts with a 1. Might have a 5 after it, too.

[LA Muskie]

Well 4 teams should fall out (Utah, UC, Baylor and UCLA) and they can and should jump South Carolina. But that just gets them to 20. Even if they also leap-frog Texas A&M and WVU they'd still top out at 18. I think they'll land in the 19-20 range.


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[QueensbridgeMF]

Look at Tulane's gym

[GoMuskies]

You can add Butler to that list. Iowa will be ranked ahead of Butler.

[LA Muskie]

You can add Butler to that list. Iowa will be ranked ahead of Butler.

I'm not sure that'll be the case. Two losses, but other than dropping one at home neither was remotely a bad loss. I don't think they should lose 10 spots. But you're right -- they very well could. I at least should have mentioned that as a possibility.


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[Muskie]

I noticed the A-10 had a triple header on NBCSPorts today. Is that a common thing? If so. Good for them in improving their tv package.


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[xubrew]

I noticed the A-10 had a triple header on NBCSPorts today. Is that a common thing? If so. Good for them in improving their tv package.


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It's the same deal they signed the last year we were in the league. 14 on ESPN networks, 25 on NBC Sports, 25 on CBS Sports. $5 million.

[X Factor]

San Francisco up 14 on Gonzaga with under 8 min to go.

[xubrew]

San Fransisco collapsed. Badly. Gonzaga sort of pulled it together, but that was a Dons meltdown. Not a Zags comeback.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Western KY loses

Wake with a big one tonight against Louisville.

[Masterofreality]

Western KY loses

Wake with a big one tonight against Louisville.

Very interested to see how Wake performs at Yum.

[GoMuskies]

I suspect Wake will get the shit kicked out of them.

[paulxu]

You may be biased. You also may be right.

[D-West & PO-Z]

USC loses, had the lead late and blew it.

[GoMuskies]

You may be biased. You also may be right.

I'm not biased in favor of Louisville. I'd prefer Wake win the game.

[GoMuskies]

If you're a fan of betting on games, you actually have a rare opportunity tonight. Sagarin Predictor says Louisville should beat Wake by 21. The line is 13.5. It's pretty rare to find that big a gap between Sagarin and the spread this late in the year.

[Muskie]

It's the same deal they signed the last year we were in the league. 14 on ESPN networks, 25 on NBC Sports, 25 on CBS Sports. $5 million.

Thanks Brew. I guess I didn't remember the tv package very well.

[Masterofreality]

It's the same deal they signed the last year we were in the league. 14 on ESPN networks, 25 on NBC Sports, 25 on CBS Sports. $5 million.


Thanks Brew. I guess I didn't remember the tv package very well.

Soooooo, with 342 teams in the A10 that works out toooooooo... 43 cents per school per year. Right?

[bobbiemcgee]

'bout 3.8 million more a yr. in BE or roughly 10x their money.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville has only played 2 top 50 teams and is 0-2. I guess I bought some of their blowout of bad teams hype. They don't look like a top team tonight at home.

[xubrew]

Louisville has only played 2 top 50 teams and is 0-2. I guess I bought some of their blowout of bad teams hype. They don't look like a top team tonight at home.

Well, they looked really good against the teams they lost to. In what has to be the ultimate irony, Louisville has instilled a lot of confidence in me, but only in the games they haven't actually won. I really wish Wake would have pulled this one out tonight.

[GoMuskies]

Wake choked big time at the foul line. Crazy bad.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wake choked bug time at the foul line. Crazy bad.

0-3 on that fouled 3 point shot. Ouch.

[xubrew]

Soooooo, with 342 teams in the A10 that works out toooooooo... 43 cents per school per year. Right?

I thought the league had expanded beyond 342. I can't keep up anymore.

[GoMuskies]

0-3 on that fouled 3 point shot. Ouch.

3-12 for the game.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wright State loses
NKU loses

[Tardy Turtle]

Bullshit foul call on the clean strip at the end of the first half of OU-KU is our new leader in the clubhouse for worst call of the year. Official 100% out of position to make that call.

So ends my relevant basketball observations for Q1 2016.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Bullshit foul call on the clean strip at the end of the first half of OU-KU is our new leader in the clubhouse for worst call of the year. Official 100% out of position to make that call.

So ends my relevant basketball observations for Q1 2016.

Yeah that was awful. Self went nuts.

[Masterofreality]

Buddy Heild is a bad bad man!

[xu82]

Bullshit foul call on the clean strip at the end of the first half of OU-KU is our new leader in the clubhouse for worst call of the year. Official 100% out of position to make that call.

So ends my relevant basketball observations for Q1 2016.

But rest assured, your avatar and location in ponyville render your analysis unassailable. :-)

Looking forward to your next quarter observations, and my subsequent wise ass response. I'm just that helpful.

[Tardy Turtle]

But rest assured, your avatar and location in ponyville render your analysis unassailable. :-)

Looking forward to your next quarter observations, and my subsequent wise ass response. I'm just that helpful.

(farts)

[xu82]

(farts)

I hope it wasn't cruciferous vegetable night at your house. And of course, you didn't get any on you.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Great games on both ESPN and ESPN2.

UVA in big trouble at Va Tech, down 8 with Tech at the line for 1 FT with 2:47 left.

[xu82]

Great games on both ESPN and ESPN2.

UVA in big trouble at Va Tech, down 8 with Tech at the line for 1 FT with 2:47 left.

We won't be the only team to drop games.

[D-West & PO-Z]

And a UVA player hits his first 3 of the year on his only attempt of the year to pull within 2 with 17 secs to go.

And Va Tech goes 1-2 from the line after.

[xu82]

And a UVA player hits his first 3 of the year on his only attempt of the year to pull within 2 with 17 secs to go.

And Va Tech goes 1-2 from the line after.what network?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Fouling up 3 with over 8 secs left only works if you can make your FT's. Tech missed a lot at the end but gets lucky and escapes.

[D-West & PO-Z]

what network?

espn 2

[xu82]

Kansas OK too tight to turn away!

[Xville]

I hate Oklahoma and Kansas but damn they are both extremely good.

[xu82]

Root for the Big East

[D-West & PO-Z]

WOW! Tough call, need to see a replay.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Very good call.

Glad to see the ref call that actually, it was clear foul and the rebound by Kansas.

[xu82]

And their opponents

[Xville]

That's a good call..ballsy because most refs won't make it, but it was a foul

[xu2010]

Extremely good call there, definition of over the back

[Xville]

And their opponents

I'll never root for nova...f them

[D-West & PO-Z]

OT!

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'd love to see a game at Phog Allen. Seems like an amazing atmosphere every time.

[xu82]

OT!

Baby....

Ugh

[bigdiggins]

That illegal screen on Ellis is why X can't run the "Stainbrook to Dee Davis" play this year (aside from the fact those guys both graduated.)

[xu82]

We had mutual friends with Dicky in Sarasota. Did NOT make me more of a fan.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Perry Ellis is having a hell of a game.

[xu82]

This game won't help or hurt us, but there is personal preference.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Gotta try and go 2 for 1 here.

Edit: NVM KU turnover.

[BENWAR]

Wow! What a great game!

[xu82]

I am questioning the importance of my sales meeting in the morning.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Double OT........

.......baby!

[xu82]

Crazy stuff!

[xu82]

Watching this I can say I (almost always) love our rebounding.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Triple OT!

[XUFan09]

So I tuned in with 2:02 left and no one scored from that point on lol.

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[xu82]

....baby

[Xville]

It is way past my bedtime. Let's have a winner this ot please.

[D-West & PO-Z]

wow 4 point play potentially.

[D-West & PO-Z]

missed the FT

[XUFan09]

Oh bullshit. The Oklahoma actually turned his back to the guy and the guy drove into his leg.

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[xu82]

FT's count.....even for other teams.

[XUFan09]

Nice drive and dish, if a bit out of control.

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[XUFan09]

Great play to take the lead. Just great team ball by OU.

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[Xville]

Hield is cold-blooded. Wow

[xu82]

These are the teams we have to beat. Repeatedly. And we can. Cool, huh?

[MauriceX]

I love college basketball.

[XUFan09]

Huge travel call. And foul call.

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[xu82]

I hope they play 1,089,000,999,096 more OT's, and sleep the rest of the year.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Make that FT and this was setting up nicely for 4th OT. That was a big miss.

[XUFan09]

I hope they play 1,089,000,999,096 more OT's, and sleep the rest of the year.
Ha!

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[Xville]

These are the teams we have to beat. Repeatedly. And we can. Cool, huh?

Are we sure about that? Maybe we can but I think it's unknown right now. Oklahoma made nova look like Duquesne.

[XUFan09]

Are we sure about that? Maybe we can but I think it's unknown right now. Oklahoma made nova look like Duquesne.
Xavier has its own strengths. For example, it is a far superior rebounding team to these two.

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[paulxu]

Don't give a guy a lot of room to take the ball out on that court.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Pretty close on the inbounds to the inbounder on D there.

[XUFan09]

The defender on the inbounds seemed too close, actually. Like he was breaking the vertical plane.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

Don't give a guy a lot of room to take the ball out on that court.

Yeah, crazy.

[xu82]

Ha!

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I may have gone a dozen or two too far. Just a tad bit.

[Xville]

Xavier has its own strengths. For example, it is a far superior rebounding team to these two.

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Yeah maybe. I just think it's hard to judge until we actually play one of them...they are definitely two of the best obviously. We look the part I think but we haven't played a team of this caliber and probably won't until we get to the final four in houston :)

[XUFan09]

Pretty close on the inbounds to the inbounder on D there.
Same thought. I'm pretty confident that was a violation that wasn't called.

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[paulxu]

Time to foul up by 3 (nightmares of OSU game)

[paulxu]

Or not

[xu82]

Both teams won there.

[MauriceX]

My Watch ESPN feed went out right before the final possession. What happened?

[XUFan09]

Yeah maybe. I just think it's hard to judge until we actually play one of them...they are definitely two of the best obviously.
Well, there's no maybe about rebounding. We're definitely better than them in that category. Their rebounding rates are far behind Xavier's.

Whether Xavier's composite can match up, though, is a different question.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

My Watch ESPN feed went out right before the final possession. What happened?

OK didnt really get a good look at the three, one stripped and another fade away not close.

[XUFan09]

If I were a voter, I would pick OU #1 over KU. They just took the game into triple overtime on the road.

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[xumuskies08]

If I were a voter, I would pick OU #1 over KU. They just took the game into triple overtime on the road.

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And they lost...KU is and should be #1. This isn't horseshoes or hand grenades.

[xumuskies08]

That was one hell of a game. Off the top of my head it was best in the last several years. Honestly, in terms of pure basketball, maybe the best game since the 2OT game against KSU.

[XUMIOH12]

Looked like Hield thought he had less time than he actually did on the last shot. The guy defending the inbounds pass should have been called there, but for some reason that always happens on inbounds and is almost never called. I dont get that, because its pretty easy to see. Looked to me like Kansas got away with 1 clear goaltend, and another that i didnt get to see a replay of. Both were times when Hield was fouled driving to the basket.

[Masterofreality]

That was one hell of a game. Off the top of my head it was best in the last several years. Honestly, in terms of pure basketball, maybe the best game since the 2OT game against KSU.

Absolutely agree. One helluva game. Would have loved to see it go another OT.

[Cheesehead]

Absolutely agree. One helluva game. Would have loved to see it go another OT.

I was watching it w/ my son last night and the momentum swings were crazy. Very fun to watch and very good basketball. It wasn't like the defense was bad, kids were making great plays. Glad I stayed up for it.

[XUFan09]

And they lost...KU is and should be #1. This isn't horseshoes or hand grenades.
And if it had been at OU or even on a neutral floor, OU very likely would have won. It's not about who wins an individual game. It's about who's the better team.

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[GoMuskies]

Luckily the Big XII has an awesome round-robin much like the Big East, so the two teams get to settle this question on the basketball court in Norman. And then maybe again the Kansas City (which will be only slightly more neutral than Lawrence).

[xumuskies08]

And if it had been at OU or even on a neutral floor, OU very likely would have won. It's not about who wins an individual game. It's about who's the better team.

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But...that just makes no sense. If you think OU might be the better team when they're at home then fine. That's a different argument for a different day. Rankings are about what's happening and who's better right now, not what might happen or who might be better in the future. KU was the better team last night. OU had the best player, but they lost the game.

[GoMuskies]

Personally, I'm with '09 in that I come away from yesterday's result more impressed with OU than KU. Also, I'm glad it doesn't really matter and they get to decide the issue on the court in Norman.

[LA Muskie]

Yeah, I typically agree with you '09 but I don't think from a rankings perspective you can move #2 up to #1--and move #1 down to #2--because #2 forced #1 to 3OT on the road before it lost. I think it probably justifies keeping them at #2. But that's about it.

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, I typically agree with you '09 but I don't think from a rankings perspective you can move #2 up to #1--and move #1 down to #2--because #2 forced #1 to 3OT on the road before it lost. I think it probably justifies keeping them at #2. But that's about it.

How about in the other poll where OU was already #1?

[paulxu]

I read the NCAA rules on out of bounds spacing.
I'd like to see a replay to see if the KU player was extended over the line.

But, the out of bounds area for the "thrower-in" (that's actually what they call that guy) has no backward limitation...only sideways.
So, when they put the stands/fans/whatever that close to your back...I think the player should just push back into the crowd to create more breathing room to make the throw-in.

[xu82]

I read the NCAA rules on out of bounds spacing.
I'd like to see a replay to see if the KU player was extended over the line.

But, the out of bounds area for the "thrower-in" (that's actually what they call that guy) has no backward limitation...only sideways.
So, when they put the stands/fans/whatever that close to your back...I think the player should just push back into the crowd to create more breathing room to make the throw-in.

Well, that just needs to be fixed....to pretty much anything else. But I'm not sure what...

[LA Muskie]

How about in the other poll where OU was already #1?
I don't see how you don't make Kansas #1 in that poll. They won their only (for now) H2H meeting and it's really the only differentiating factor between them.

[bigdiggins]

I read the NCAA rules on out of bounds spacing.
I'd like to see a replay to see if the KU player was extended over the line.

But, the out of bounds area for the "thrower-in" (that's actually what they call that guy) has no backward limitation...only sideways.
So, when they put the stands/fans/whatever that close to your back...I think the player should just push back into the crowd to create more breathing room to make the throw-in.

So the thrower-in could stand on the scorer's table?

[XUFan09]

I think what some others are expressing is part of a winner-goes-up-loser-goes-down mentality, and I don't agree with that, even if AP voters clearly seem to. Yes, KU was the better team last night on their homecourt, but the rankings aren't based off who is the best when playing in Lawrence, Kansas, on a Monday night. The rankings should be based off who is the best, period, and should consider all the data, not just that night's which was biased toward one team. You should be able to take the real #1 team on a true neutral court and put them up against any opponent and they would win the majority of the time (though admittedly matchup advantages could be a confounding variable in reality). In this case, I think if OU and KU played a game with equal fan representation on an equally familiar court, OU would win. Thus, OU is #1. I don't care who "earned" #1 in a biased individual matchup. I care about who is really the better team. Yes, that's highly subjective, but subjectivity is impossible to avoid in any ranking.

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[XUFan09]

I don't see how you don't make Kansas #1 in that poll. They won their only (for now) H2H meeting and it's really the only differentiating factor between them.
The H2H matchup is the differentiating factor that is easiest to discern, but I don't agree with the idea that it's the only one. We've seen plenty of basketball from these two teams besides against each other.

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[D-West & PO-Z]

I think what some others are expressing is part of a winner-goes-up-loser-goes-down mentality, and I don't agree with that, even if AP voters clearly seem to. Yes, KU was the better team last night on their homecourt, but the rankings aren't based off who is the best when playing in Lawrence, Kansas, on a Monday night. The rankings should be based off who is the best, period, and should consider all the data, not just that night's which was biased toward one team. You should be able to take the real #1 team on a true neutral court and put them up against any opponent and they would win the majority of the time (though admittedly matchup advantages could be a confounding variable in reality). In this case, I think if OU and KU played a game with equal fan representation on an equally familiar court, OU would win. Thus, OU is #1. I don't care who "earned" #1 in a biased individual matchup. I care about who is really the better team. Yes, that's highly subjective, but subjectivity is impossible to avoid in any ranking.

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How many points is home court worth in college basketball when betting, anyone know? Does it depend on the homecourt? I guess I am not sure why you are so sure OU would beat KU on a neutral court. How many points would KU have had to win by for you not to feel that way? Or was it the multiple OTs?

It was a great game against 2 very close great teams but I cant say you move that game to a neutral court and KU wouldnt still win. Maybe they would maybe they wouldnt. OU would probably win at home but we dont know that yet. KU took care of business and at the very least looked equally good as OU, KU should stay number 1.

[MADXSTER]

How many points is home court worth in college basketball when betting, anyone know? Does it depend on the homecourt? I guess I am not sure why you are so sure OU would beat KU on a neutral court. How many points would KU have had to win by for you not to feel that way? Or was it the multiple OTs?

It was a great game against 2 very close great teams but I cant say you move that game to a neutral court and KU wouldnt still win. Maybe they would maybe they wouldnt. OU would probably win at home but we dont know that yet. KU took care of business and at the very least looked equally good as OU, KU should stay number 1.

My understanding is 3 points

[xu82]

How many points is home court worth in college basketball when betting, anyone know? Does it depend on the homecourt? I guess I am not sure why you are so sure OU would beat KU on a neutral court. How many points would KU have had to win by for you not to feel that way? Or was it the multiple OTs?

It was a great game against 2 very close great teams but I cant say you move that game to a neutral court and KU wouldnt still win. Maybe they would maybe they wouldnt. OU would probably win at home but we dont know that yet. KU took care of business and at the very least looked equally good as OU, KU should stay number 1.

That's a really interesting question, as venues vary so much. But of course, like with so many other things, I have no idea.

[XUFan09]

My understanding is 3 points
It's actually closer to 4. Still essentially a toss-up on a neutral court if we looked at this game in a bubble. However, as I said before, I'm not just looking at this game in a bubble, but rather as the latest section of the entirety of data

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[D-West & PO-Z]

It's actually closer to 4. Still essentially a toss-up on a neutral court if we looked at this game in a bubble. However, as I said before, I'm not just looking at this game in a bubble, but rather as the latest section of the entirety of data

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Both are impressive. I give the edge to KU, from looking last night, to 1 more top 50win, 3 more top 100 wins and only 5 of their wins coming against 101 or worse RPI as opposed to 8 for OU.

But time will tell and OU will get a chance at home. I love that.

[LA Muskie]

The H2H matchup is the differentiating factor that is easiest to discern, but I don't agree with the idea that it's the only one. We've seen plenty of basketball from these two teams besides against each other.
I agree. I guess my point (albeit not made particularly well) was that their resumes are so close that the only real differentiating factor among them is their H2H game. They are 2 and 3 in KenPom, 1 and 2 Sagarin, and 3 and 4 in RPI with generally similar strength of schedules.

I thought KU looked more balanced, but OK is elite. I think they will both be playing well into March/April.

[Masterofreality]

Auburn is stinking at home vs South Carolina so far. Down 33-22 with 6 to go in the 1st half.

[MauriceX]

In terms of the argument about home court advantage, Kansas is 193–9 (.955) over the past 13 years at Allen Fieldhouse. They also had win streaks of 69 and 33 games. And I believe the current streak is at 31 games. So if there is any venue that constitutes a home court advantage, it's that one.

That said, Kansas did win, so I think they get to be number 1, regardless of how well OK played.

[X-band '01]

Auburn is stinking at home vs South Carolina so far. Down 33-22 with 6 to go in the 1st half.

South Carolina has made everyone on their schedule look bad. I'd say Frank Martin finally has things going after he came aboard 3 seasons ago.

[XUFan09]

South Carolina has made everyone on their schedule look bad. I'd say Frank Martin finally has things going after he came aboard 3 seasons ago.
Yep, #23 in KenPom right now.

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[bobbiemcgee]

Honestly, they haven't played anybody in the Top 25, and won't until they see Texas A&M and Ky. Schedule totally unimpressive.

[X-band '01]

Honestly, they haven't played anybody in the Top 25, and won't until they see Texas A&M and Ky. Schedule totally unimpressive.

They should have played Florida State in the Paradise Jam, but the Seminoles were so scared of Angry Frank that they lost to Hofstra. Not that the Noles are any better.

[Xville]

I think kentucky is going down tonight...up 10 with a lot of time left but just seems like one of those games where the underdog comes thru at home. That would be 3 teams ahead of us to lose already this week, though we aren't passing oklahoma.

[Masterofreality]

LSU beating KY by 12 with 15:42 to go in 2nd half.

[xu82]

Blakeny went to my sons HS the year after my son was supposed to continue as the PG (Coach SUCKED so my son played soccer as a senior instead). The coach bragged on TV how the kids finally bought into the program they'd been teaching. Well, that, and the 6'4" five star black kid at the Catholic school who could dunk over everyone or rain 3''s, depending upon what seemed more convenient, was another factor.

[GoMuskies]

If Kentucky loses it will just be so sad. Boo hoo.

[XUFan09]

LSU is pretty good with a certain freshman named Ben Simmons and UK is on their way to losing to a third unranked team. Can we stop treating the Wildcats like a top 10 team? Keep in mind, this UK team is currently ranked one spot ahead of Xavier. On a neutral court, Xavier would win solidly against this squad.

[xu82]

Ben Simmons is crazy good.

[XUFan09]

Ben Simmons is crazy good.

I haven't had the chance to watch him in an actual game (just highlights). It's been an experience lol.

[BMoreX]

If Xavier wins tomorrow they should move up at least two spots (UVA and Kentucky falling, probably Providence too)

[XUFan09]

If Xavier wins tomorrow they should move up at least two spots (UVA and Kentucky falling, probably Providence too)

Yup. Xavier needs to beat the conference's two sub-100 teams to mostly make up their ranking loss.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think kentucky is going down tonight...up 10 with a lot of time left but just seems like one of those games where the underdog comes thru at home. That would be 3 teams ahead of us to lose already this week, though we aren't passing oklahoma.

4 teams right? OU, UK, Providence, UVA.

[xu82]

I haven't had the chance to watch him in an actual game (just highlights). It's been an experience lol.

Blakeney followed him to LSU as a tandem deal, but next year Blakeney is stuck at LSU. Dope.

[GoMuskies]

I can't wait for KU to beat Kentucky by about 8 zillion points to make up for last year.

[Milhouse]

4 teams right? OU, UK, Providence, UVA.

OU should really stay #2. They're damn good.

[Xville]

4 teams right? OU, UK, Providence, UVA.

yep my bad...I was trying to forget that Providence lost at home to Marquette. Anyways, win tonight and we are close to being back where we were last week.

Arizona may lose @ UCLA Thursday or @USC Saturday. So, could be right back where we started.

[D-West & PO-Z]

OU should really stay #2. They're damn good.

Yeah we wont jump ahead of them but 4 lost.

[XUMIOH12]

Yeah we wont jump ahead of them but 4 lost.

Yeah, we should move up to 7 or 8 as long as we win tonight.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wake loses to Duke
Miami loses
Mizzou loses

Not a good night for Xavier past opponents

[X-band '01]

Speaking of following up on rule changes, here's an article on the midseason checkpoint:

Scroll down to read Shaka Smart and Mick Cronin weigh in (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25441139/new-rules-have-improved-college-hoops----but-theres-still-one-huge-concern)

Shaka Smart:


"I don't know that it's possible to call every foul every time the way they're describing, on and off the ball," he said. "The question becomes, Which ones do you call and which ones do you let go?"

Mick Cronin:


"They change the rules on us, and I'm practicing every day and adjusting to the changes, and you're not, you're just going to show up at the game and now you have to adjust," Cronin said. "Who's the adjustment going to be harder on? See, the officials don't practice every day. Unlike the pros, they're not required to watch film and answer for every call they make."

Cronin is also steadfast on the game being called naturally. He strongly fights back on the notion of fouls needing to go up just because new rules are in place.

"What shouldn't be happening is anybody calling a referee crew after a game and saying, 'Why do you only have 16 fouls in that game?'" Cronin said. "What if both teams played zone? What shouldn't be going on is officials just trying to blow their whistle to make somebody else happy, instead of just officiating the game. If players are adjusting and coaches are adjusting, you shouldn't just blow your whistle because you're getting a memo that in your last game there weren't enough fouls called."

[Masterofreality]

My Gawd. How bad a Coach of offense is YTG?

The last 4 possessions by SucKS were horrendous. Went from a 7 point lead with 2:30 to go to a loss vs SMU. Only points were Octavious "Poster" Ellis's two free throws. Just terrible schematics and lousy shots.

Why some writers think that guy can coach is beyond me.

[Xville]

And uc loses another close one....hahaha haha

Michigan unfortunately gets smoked at Purdue.

[bigdiggins]

My Gawd. How bad a Coach of offense is YTG?

The last 4 possessions by SucKS were horrendous. Went from a 7 point lead with 2:30 to go to a loss vs SMU. Only points were Octavious "Poster" Ellis's two free throws. Just terrible schematics and lousy shots.

Why some writers think that guy can coach is beyond me.

My guess is UC players just weren't tough enough those last 4 possessions.

[xu82]

My Gawd. How bad a Coach of offense is YTG?

The last 4 possessions by SucKS were horrendous. Went from a 7 point lead with 2:30 to go to a loss vs SMU. Only points were Octavious "Poster" Ellis's two free throws. Just terrible schematics and lousy shots.

Why some writers think that guy can coach is beyond me.

Did you drop a couple zeroes?

[xavierj]

And uc loses another close one....hahaha haha

Michigan unfortunately gets smoked at Purdue.

Not surprising with Caris Levert out.

[THRILLHOUSE]

My Gawd. How bad a Coach of offense is YTG?


Nah. They just weren't tough enough down the stretch. Gonna have to apologize to the former players again. :lol:

[Masterofreality]

Juan Bid is knocking at the door of the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC.

SMU has a postseason ban, and SucKS is 89 RPI now. UCon is the only other school with an expected sub-60 RPI ranking.

That would be hilarious.

[STL_XUfan]

Juan Bid is knocking at the door of the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC.

SMU has a postseason ban, and SucKS is 89 RPI now. UCon is the only other school with an expected sub-60 RPI ranking.

That would be hilarious.
and that Juan Bid could be by a tie breaker if SMU takes the regular season crown and tourney championship (they haven't been banned from the conference tourney, right?)

[muskiefan82]

That would be hilarious.

And beautiful.

[THRILLHOUSE]

and that Juan Bid could be by a tie breaker if SMU takes the regular season crown and tourney championship (they haven't been banned from the conference tourney, right?)

They are banned from all postseason tourneys, including the AAC tourney.

[GoMuskies]

I think every conference has done that since Memphis made the Metro None Bid in '87.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Michigan loses
WKU loses
UC loses
Alabama up 8 at the half

[GoMuskies]

UCLA is looking to give us some rankings help tonight. Go Bruins.

[Masterofreality]

UCLA is looking to give us some rankings help tonight. Go Bruins.

UCLA up 11 over the Desert Raccoons with 8:23 to go in the game at UCLA.

And Arizona is ranked #7? I am not impressed. Their offense just seems to be run and throw it up there.

[D-West & PO-Z]

UCLA is BLOWING IT!!!!!

[Masterofreality]

Wow, that escalated quickly. Horrible defense by UCLA.

[D-West & PO-Z]

UCLA has blown a 13 point lead in 3 mins 30sec

[Masterofreality]

Wow! Alford bailed their asses out with a 3!

And Arizona drops to 32nd in the RPI, but just go ahead and keep ranking them on rep, writers.

[XUMIOH12]

Wow! Alford bailed their asses out with a 3!

And Arizona drops to 32nd in the RPI, but just go ahead and keep ranking them on rep, writers.

I was hoping they would lose, they shouldnt have been ranked quite that high. And we should move up a bit now.

[Smails]

I fear that Mick will soon lose the support of his fringe supporters, with the loyalists soon to follow. This will lead to his termination. It will be a sad day in the Xavier kingdom when that happens. He is so bad at X's and O's it's not even funny. On top of that, he gives us this wonderful quote to explain the debacle last night.

“There was a time I was 65-1 with the lead in the last two minutes of games, so it’s beyond frustrating. Right now I think we lack a closer on offense, and it’s hurt us.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wright State and NKU are playing each other, so one is guaranteed a win today!

[GoMuskies]

Wright State and NKU are playing each other, so one is guaranteed a win today!


I took NKU and gave the 1.5, so I have no such guarantee.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I took NKU and gave the 1.5, so I have no such guarantee.

Not looking good.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Georgia Tech up 11 on UVA at the half.

[Masterofreality]

Georgia Tech up 11 on UVA at the half.

Is the Midget a Leprechaun? We'll find out in the second half.

[GoMuskies]

Not looking good.

NKU forgot to play the second half.

[X-band '01]

Is the Midget a Leprechaun? We'll find out in the second half.

Tech should have had a 13-point lead, but Gregory called his use-it-or-lose-it timeout late in the 1st half and allowed the Hoos to get a last-second basket.

[D-West & PO-Z]

UVA goes down, 2nd loss this week.

[D-West & PO-Z]

UD goes to to LaSalle

[paulxu]

UD goes DOWN to LaSalle

ftfy

God, I think they were 13 pt favorites.

[GIMMFD]

Maryland barely beats Wisconsin (I think they're the most overrated team in the country, but whatever.)
South Carolina in a dog fight with Vandy
and Baylor up 5 on Iowa State, should be interesting!!

[Masterofreality]

My Gawd...Jamie Dixon's hair!!!

He's taken over the "crown" from Gene Keady & Lou "Do" Henson for worst combover job. Horrifying.

Takes a lot of stiff hold hairspray to keep that squirrel in place.

[xudash]

My Gawd...Jamie Dixon's hair!!!

He's taken over the "crown" from Gene Keady & Lou "Do" Henson for worst combover job. Horrifying.

Takes a lot of stiff hold hairspray to keep that squirrel in place.

His rep certainly has faded, hasn't it?

[D-West & PO-Z]

ftfy

God, I think they were 13 pt favorites.

Ha, thanks.

[D-West & PO-Z]

WKU wins
Miami loses

[GoMuskies]

Solid choking USC.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Solid choking USC.

wanted to tune in but apparently no Pac12 network on DirecTV.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Alabama loses to UK

[GoMuskies]

Trojans lead in OT. How will they blow it again?

[GoMuskies]

Another OT. Geez.

[xubrew]

Trojans lead in OT. How will they blow it again?

this game has been hugely entertaining!

[GoMuskies]

North Carolina /Syracuse getting into interesting territory as well.

[GoMuskies]

3 times USC has lost a lead in the final minute.

[D-West & PO-Z]

3 times USC has lost a lead in the final minute.

wish i could watch

[D-West & PO-Z]

4th OT? Now I really wish I could watch.

[xubrew]

The game of three halves!! Four overtimes! twenty extra minutes!

[muskiefan82]

Ot #4.

[D-West & PO-Z]

USC wins!

2 teams ahead of us have lost twice this week.

[GoMuskies]

Poor Lexus

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just saw Mizzou and Auburn are playing each other, one of those teams also guaranteed a win today!

[xu82]

Just saw Mizzou and Auburn are playing each other, one of those teams also guaranteed a win today!
And the other?

[D-West & PO-Z]

And the other?

NKU and Wright St I posted earlier played each other.

[xubrew]

USC is a basketball school!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

UVA and Zona both 1-2 in their conferences.

[Blue Blobs Bro]

USC wins!

2 teams ahead of us have lost twice this week.

I count three. Arizona providence and Virginia with Arizona losing twice, really interesting ranking in Monday .

[D-West & PO-Z]

I count three. Arizona providence and Virginia with Arizona losing twice, really interesting ranking in Monday .

Providence hasnt lost twice this week.

[Blue Blobs Bro]

Providence hasnt lost twice this week.
My bad I worded that terribly, I was just saying that three teams ahead of us lost rather than two, so we could jump even higher than before, but also I could see how Arizona now losing again would make that even worse, but they hadn't lost yet when I posted that.

[D-West & PO-Z]

My bad I worded that terribly, I was just saying that three teams ahead of us lost rather than two, so we could jump even higher than before, but also I could see how Arizona now losing again would make that even worse, but they hadn't lost yet when I posted that.

Yeah my post was about 2 teams in front of us losing twice this week.

There are actually 5 teams in front of us total that lost this week. But Oklahoma lost in triple OT to KU so shouldnt fall far if at all.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Miami lost
Mizzou beat Auburn

[paulxu]

Would be quite an upset if Clempson can take out Louisville.

[Masterofreality]

Would be quite an upset if Clempson can take out Louisville.

Cards down 14 on the road in Clemson with 12 to go.

Looks like YTG, and not his players because, you know, will get a win over AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC powerhouse South Florida today.

[Masterofreality]

Then again, due to YTG's lack of offensive schematics, SFLA is now down only 6 with 2:30 to go with the ball.

SucKS offense is non-existent.

Edit: They've gone the last nine minutes without a field goal. Now only a 4 point game with 1:19 to go. SFLA is 3-13.

[Masterofreality]

SFLA is pathetic. SucKS will go the last 10:19 of the game without a field goal.

[Masterofreality]

Motherf$&@k! SucKS survives as SFLA misses a wide ass open 3 at the end that would have tied it.

All the Leprechaun could do was scream and yell. Disgusting.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville loses at Clemson. Pitino is looking to schedule Utah Valley at home for every game next year, because playing mediocre power conference teams on the road is hard.

[Masterofreality]

Louisville loses at Clemson. Pitino is looking to schedule Utah Valley at home for every game next year, because playing mediocre power conference teams on the road is hard.

There's always Central Connecticut State to play that RPI game.

[chico]

Indiana is up by 30 against OSU at the half. And Seth Davis is sill a douche.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Indiana is up by 30 against OSU at the half. And Seth Davis is sill a douche.

Yeah OSU is pretty horrible this year.

[chico]

Yeah OSU is pretty horrible this year.

They were actually playing decent basketball - had won 7 in a row including one over UK (who I know is overrated but it's still a pretty good win). They have 7 freshmen on their roster.

[paulxu]

Man. Sucks with 1 pt, count it, 1 frigging point, in the last 10 minutes of their game. Unbelievable.

[Masterofreality]

Man. Sucks with 1 pt, count it, 1 frigging point, in the last 10 minutes of their game. Unbelievable.

Zero field goals, (obviously) but their lack of offensive structure is appalling.

I remember back in the fall, Jon Rothstein was touting the Borecats on Twitter about them being a Top 20 team. (He touts everybody and never has a negative word to say) I called him out by tweeting back that "No way. Cronin can't coach offense" and it started a twitter war with SucKS fans and a few favorites from others. I'm proving to be right....again. :biggrin:

[X-band '01]

You mean the same reporter who inevitable tweets "It's all fun and games until Team X loses a buy game?" I didn't follow Twitter when Presbyterian defeated UC.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wake beat NC ST

[xubrew]

You mean the same reporter who inevitable tweets "It's all fun and games until Team X loses a buy game?" I didn't follow Twitter when Presbyterian defeated UC.

I never understood that. Nothing is fun about buy games. Even when you win them they're not that much fun.

[Masterofreality]

Man. Sucks with 1 pt, count it, 1 frigging point, in the last 10 minutes of their game. Unbelievable.

I posted this in the Smack forum, but I have to put it here too. YTG is such a cretin.
YTG's latest incredible quote after the South Florida game- the same South Florida that is on the bottom of the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC and 234 in RPI.

"“To win a game on the road and shoot 31 percent is something I’m extremely proud of. It’s everything that I stand for.”"

Yep. He should be proud. 31% is better than their usual.

[XUMIOH12]

I posted this in the Smack forum, but I have to put it here too. YTG is such a cretin.
YTG's latest incredible quote after the South Florida game- the same South Florida that is on the bottom of the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC and 234 in RPI.

"“To win a game on the road and shoot 31 percent is something I’m extremely proud of. It’s everything that I stand for.”"

Yep. He should be proud. 31% is better than their usual.

hahaha that quote is awesome

[XUMIOH12]

I never understood that. Nothing is fun about buy games. Even when you win them they're not that much fun.

rothstein is kind of a tool with all of his stupid phrases he uses over and over. He always says every team will be good and look out for every player because they are going to be good. I do give him credit for reporting news on a ton of teams throughout the season and offseason though.

[xeus]

"“To win a game on the road and shoot 31 percent is something I’m extremely proud of. It’s everything that I stand for.”"

Yep. He should be proud. 31% is better than their usual.

He was talking about that in his postgame interview too. Said it was a great "old school" Bearcat victory. What a clown.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Maryland -2 @Michigan tonight. 9pm

[GoMuskies]

If Huggy Bear's team keeps beating on #1 Kansas, they'll be a threat to pass us in the polls. We'd probably stay a spot ahead of them if we take care of business.

[Xville]

If Huggy Bear's team keeps beating on #1 Kansas, they'll be a threat to pass us in the polls. We'd probably stay a spot ahead of them if we take care of business.

Not surprised that WVU is winning...that place is tough for opponents to play. Anywho...they may pass us, and if they do, they probably deserve it.

[GoMuskies]

G-dub currently trailing at UMess. WTF happened to the Colonials?!?

[GIMMFD]

Not surprised that WVU is winning...that place is tough for opponents to play. Anywho...they may pass us, and if they do, they probably deserve it.

They offensively rebound like us. I love watching them play, the press is great. Kansas just looks lost right now.

[X-band '01]

G-dub currently trailing at UMass. WFT happened to the Colonials?!?

The Colonial Army is no match for Minutemen.

[Masterofreality]

Not surprised that WVU is winning...that place is tough for opponents to play. Anywho...they may pass us, and if they do, they probably deserve it.

Why would they "deserve it"? Why don't we deserve to stay ahead of them? We're a more complete team, and deeper.

F WVA and Thuggs. That bastard deserves NOTHING .

[Xville]

Why would they "deserve it"? Why don't we deserve to stay ahead of them? We're a more complete team, and deeper.

F WVA and Thuggs. That bastard deserves NOTHING .

They would have one loss about the same caliber as ours with a much better win than anything we have had up to this point. It is what it is and really it doesn't matter so nothing to get worked up over.

[gladdenguy]

West Virginia does have to go to Oklahoma on Saturday. If they beat 1 and 2 they can shoot up past us. I doubt they win at Oklahoma.

Marquette will be a tough win to get....especially with Ed playing limited minutes. I will be very happy if we sneak out of there with a win.

[gladdenguy]

Maryland -2 @Michigan tonight. 9pm

Without Levert again. I would not expect a Michigan win tonight.

[D-West & PO-Z]

West Virginia does have to go to Oklahoma on Saturday. If they beat 1 and 2 they can shoot up past us. I doubt they win at Oklahoma.

Marquette will be a tough win to get....especially with Ed playing limited minutes. I will be very happy if we sneak out of there with a win.

IF Ed is cleared to play Sat, what makes people think he will be playing limited minutes???

[Masterofreality]

Sorry to interrupt this program, but worst logo ever invented by man or beast. #VD

1903

[bobbiemcgee]

Dino gave it to them for free:

http://s944.photobucket.com/user/tnsamiammobile/media/null_zpsf980c06b.jpg.html

[Xville]

Don't look now but Maryland losing to Michigan at half...that would be a good double whammy for x. Go blue!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah Michigan has looked good on both ends in the little bit I watched.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Dayton wins
Miami (OH) loses
Auburn down big in 2nd half
Mizzou down 12 in 2nd half

[D-West & PO-Z]

Shit Sulaimon hits 2 threes in last 3 possessions for Maryland after being ice cold all game.

Michigan up 4 with ball with 1:13 left.

[GoMuskies]

Shit Sulaimon

His parents didn't do him any favors when naming him.

[D-West & PO-Z]

His parents didn't do him any favors when naming him.

Ha, no kidding right.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Michigan wins!!

[MADXSTER]

Michigan wins over #3 Maryland

[D-West & PO-Z]

Trimble only had 2 points. WOW

[GoMuskies]

Trimble only had 2 points. WOW

Trimble will be the 1st team All-American PG, but VanVleet is better.

[gladdenguy]

Wow great win for Michigan. I thought Diamond Stone was gonna beat them himself.

[Cheesehead]

Diamond Stone is a great porn name. So, he could always go that route.

[GIMMFD]

Good day of basketball for us, Michigan getting that win was huge. I tried telling you guys Maryland was overrated ;)

[Masterofreality]

Good day of basketball for us, Michigan getting that win was huge. I tried telling you guys Maryland was overrated ;)

No they weren't. Michigan is just fabulous....especially in Ann Arbor! :ohno:

Who won in Ann Arbor earlier, again?.......

[X-band '01]

NJIT? (Oh wait, that was last year)

[paulxu]

Clempson trying to upset Duke.