XAVIER vs MICHIGAN

[MADXSTER]

1799 vs 1800

Xavier University Musketeers (2-0)
W Miami(OH) 81-72
W Missouri 78-66

vs Michigan Wolverines (1-0)
W Elon 88-68


Location: Ann Arbor
Friday Nov. 20, 2015 at 9:00 p.m. ET
Television: Big 10 Network, Dish 410
Radio: 55KRC-AM

[GoMuskies]

What do you think, X +4 in this one?

[paulxu]

I really don't like this BTN deal. Supposedly Fox owns 51% of it. Yet the Gavitt games info indicates the games will be on FS1, BTN, or one of BTN's "partners" which are ESPN, and couple others.

So, the Georgetown game was at Maryland and on ESPN2, not the BTN.

ESPN, ESPN2 and FS1 are on most regular sports packages I think. The BTN (at least down here) is on a different sports package with NFL Network, and others. Those have a limited audience who will pay for the additional package.

Oh well.

[gladdenguy]

What do you think, X +4 in this one?

Lay the four and bet Michigan. Although I hope I'm wrong.

[XMuskieFTW]

What do you think, X +4 in this one?

Yea I was thinking 4.5 so we're on the same page.

[bjf123]

And if you have Cincinnati Bell's Fioptics, you can't get the Big 10 Network. Guess I won't be watching the game.


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[boozehound]

And if you have Cincinnati Bell's Fioptics, you can't get the Big 10 Network. Guess I won't be watching the game.


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Fuck! I have Fioptics too. Might be time to look at DirecTV or TWC again. This Big 10 Network thing is really getting frustrating.

[MADXSTER]

And if you have Cincinnati Bell's Fioptics, you can't get the Big 10 Network. Guess I won't be watching the game.


BDUB's

[GoMuskies]

Lay the four and bet Michigan.

And...welcome to basketball season!

[bleedXblue]

I think this will be a really interesting game. We will need much better D and Jalen to establish a presence in the post....both offensively and defensively.

[mid major]

For those of you who have Dish in Cincinnati BTN is channel 410

[XMuskieFTW]

I expect us to outrebound them by about 12.

[xeus]

I heard from a somewhat reliable source that Fioptics has renegotiated w B10 network, and they will have it soon. Not in time for Friday unfortunately.

[gladdenguy]

Fuck! I have Fioptics too. Might be time to look at DirecTV or TWC again. This Big 10 Network thing is really getting frustrating.

You of all people on this board need B10 Network!!!!!!! Time to get rid of Fioptics.

[gladdenguy]

And...welcome to basketball season!

0 for 2 against the spread this season. 0 for 3 against spread after Friday.

Monday against NKU will hopefully be the first cover then go on a roll with Alabama next (Dayton won by 32). Xavier better put a stomping on the Tide for an enjoyable Thanksgiving.

[xeus]

You of all people on this board need B10 Network!!!!!!! Time to get rid of Fioptics.

pimpinyourwifesbox says B10 network is coming to fioptics.

[vee4xu]

I don't know about the spread, but no matter the final number, X has to get off to a much better first half start than they have the past two games. They were able to pick it up in the second half at home and win the first two games. If they have a start like that in Ann Arbor, then it will be a much steeper hill to climb in the second half. I don't know squat about Michigan's team, but I've seen X twice now and this is my assessment.

[gladdenguy]

pimpinyourwifesbox says B10 network is coming to fioptics.

I love that Xeus fellah.

[xeus]

I love that Xeus fellah.

Back at ya big guy. Hey, when this season's over, you and me should get an apartment together.

[waggy]

pimpinyourwifesbox .

Oh man.

[Emp]

If I were Belein I would double Jalen, hound and double Sumner up and down the floor, let Miles shoot 3s. I'm not sure any Muskie can guard
Lavert 1/1. Mack will 1-3-1 until Michigan is making 3s from the seams.

Neither John nor Chris has listened to me yet, but I will be there to offer my opinions and advice up in 214' row 39.

Where are we drinking?

[XUFan09]

Wait, so Michigan is doubling both Belein and Sumner? Damn, that's ballsy. :wink:

[XUMIOH12]

Xavier probably wont be able to guard LeVert or Walton. Not sure how Irvin will be coming off back surgery, I don't think he made a shot in their opener. I would be hesitant to run too much 1-3-1 against them with all of their shooters. I would rather play man and make players other than LeVert and Walton beat us.

[sirthought]

I would also guess that XU plays more zone in this game.

Should be a fun game to see how they do at this point in the season. I feel like these first games flew by so quick they probably haven't learned everything the coaches will eventually have them executing. (If that makes sense.)

[XMuskieFTW]

Really if we can shoot a similar percentage as them both from 2 and 3 we should win. We will outrebound them by a lot.

[xufan2434]

I think this is a tough game for X. Michigan looked really good in the opener, although obviously against Elon. But I think X is going to struggle on the defensive end and might have some rough stretches on offense that prevent them from keeping up. Should be a pretty hostile environment. All that said, I could see X winning but either way will be a great learning experience for a lot of the guys early into the season. Especially guys like Sumner and LAJ. Last year we were wondering if they'd ever get a good road win. Well even if they don't win tomorrow, I think it'll go a long way in helping them be better on the road this year

[Snipe]

Where are we drinking?

The most vexing question of all!

I think we look sort of dysfunctional at times in these first few games of the post-Stainbrook era. Stain was such a great passer and he attracted a huge crowd. We were able to run the offense inside out and we haven't been doing that effectively as of yet. That is what Mack wants to do and we need to get there.

I love this team and I like our chances everytime we play, but it looks like it may take some time to get everyone on the same page and working cohesively as a unit. I am convinced that Mack will find a way to blend this impressive bevy of talent. He always does. We could be scary good by the time March rolls around.

[BandAid]

As many have already mentioned, with this team still being very much a work-in-progress I have low expectations going into the Michigan game.

[xu2006]

And if you have Cincinnati Bell's Fioptics, you can't get the Big 10 Network. Guess I won't be watching the game.

You might be able to stream the game through your phone/tablet using the Big 10 To Go (BTN2Go) app. Cincinnati Bell has some reciprocity... just like the WatchESPN app. You just have to find Cincinnati Bell under the provider list when you log in.

If it will show the live feed of the network feed I think Fioptics customers should be good. If it doesn't, the game might be on their "Plus" tier, but you can register for a month's worth of service for about $10 if you select a Big 10 school package... you'll see it in the app.

I'm going to test streaming that feed to my TV tonight through a Chromecast or FireTV stick.

http://www.btn2go.com/

Good luck.

[XMuskieFTW]

I'm seeing Michigan at -5.5 on a few different sites.

[bobbiemcgee]

Hoping Global Warming thread does not spill into this one. No more "droughts" for X.

[JTG]

The most vexing question of all!

I think we look sort of dysfunctional at times in these first few games of the post-Stainbrook era. Stain was such a great passer and he attracted a huge crowd. We were able to run the offense inside out and we haven't been doing that effectively as of yet. That is what Mack wants to do and we need to get there.

I love this team and I like our chances everytime we play, but it looks like it may take some time to get everyone on the same page and working cohesively as a unit. I am convinced that Mack will find a way to blend this impressive bevy of talent. He always does. We could be scary good by the time March rolls around.

This team is not going to run inside out, as long as Jalen is in the post. To expect him to play anything like Stain is ludicrous.

[waggy]

This team is not going to run inside out, as long as Jalen is in the post. To expect him to play anything like Stain is ludicrous.

Is it ludicrous to expect him not to turn it over?

[bobbiemcgee]

Where are we drinking?

The Toledo Alumni Chapter & the Detroit Chapter have teamed up to offer a pre-game reception on November 20th from 6 pm - 8 pm at the Sheraton Ann Arbor Hotel for the Xavier vs UM men's basketball game. There will be heavy appetizers and a cash bar. The cost of the reception is $20 at the door or $15 in advance (kids are free!). Please consider coming to cheer on the muskies with fellow Xavier fans! You can get the details about this event & you can pre-register (and save $5) here:



https://alumni.xavier.edu/ccon/events_activities.do?action=viewEventFromCalendar&frompage=calendar&event_id=GAVT5

[XUFan09]

This team is not going to run inside out, as long as Jalen is in the post. To expect him to play anything like Stain is ludicrous.
He doesn't have to play like Stain in order for inside out basketball to be effective. He actually did a decent job last year with the inside out game, and the main thing this year has been struggling with double teams. I don't expect him to exploit the double team to the degree that Stain could, but at the very least he could just not turn it over and work the ball back around. Reynolds is a threat when he has the ball in the post. Getting it to him there forces opponents to deal with him, which Xavier can put to their advantage.

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[Snipe]

The Toledo Alumni Chapter & the Detroit Chapter have teamed up to offer a pre-game reception on November 20th from 6 pm - 8 pm at the Sheraton Ann Arbor Hotel for the Xavier vs UM men's basketball game. There will be heavy appetizers and a cash bar. The cost of the reception is $20 at the door or $15 in advance (kids are free!). Please consider coming to cheer on the muskies with fellow Xavier fans! You can get the details about this event & you can pre-register (and save $5) here:



https://alumni.xavier.edu/ccon/events_activities.do?action=viewEventFromCalendar&frompage=calendar&event_id=GAVT5

You say kids are free, but my kids are 14 and 12 year old boys. They don't get kids meals anymore, and the 14 year old is taller than me. If my kids get in they will eat all of the appetizers. The link that you sent didn't say anything about kids, so I would need some clarification.

Also, it doesn't look like I can order them anymore. I am guessing within 24 hours they shut down the advance admission price and I will just have to pay $20 at the door. It doesn't sound like a bad deal if I can get the kids in, but I would probably pass if I have to pay $60 at the door and just hit a pizza joint that has beer.

I am torn too. I wanna meet up with the Xavier Nation, but I also wanna be out and about in Ann Arbor instead of a hotel reception room. Who knows. I am getting excited none the less. I am guessing that Big 10 events are alcohol free affairs? Ohio State Football was alcohol free when I went years ago, so I am guessing that hasn't changed.

[paulxu]

And God said "let there be the flask"....and it was good.

[Snipe]

I am with you there brother! I wonder if they have metal detectors at the entrance. It could affect the type of flask.

[Xtemporaneous]

I am with you there brother! I wonder if they have metal detectors at the entrance. It could affect the type of flask.

They didn't tonight. I caught the XU women's game there. Let's hope for a better outcome than what the women showed.

[XMuskieFTW]

They didn't tonight. I caught the XU women's game there. Let's hope for a better outcome than what the women showed.

That was rough, but Red Panda made it worth it. Since we lost by 38 we get to win by 38 tomorrow right?

[mid major]

I am with you there brother! I wonder if they have metal detectors at the entrance. It could affect the type of flask.

Go a little low budget and get plastic bottles with plastic caps. For bourbon lovers Benchmark, Kentucky Tavern, etc. I still haven't found a metal detector to thwart my advances. Even the seasoned body checkers at the Columbus Crew games are no match for me. Go X

[Pete Delkus]

Not that this is breaking news, but if we can (1) stay in front of Lavert and force him to kick and (2) close out on their 3 shooters and contest their 3's, we should have a chance.

However, if it's defensive 'education' time for Sumner, JP and TB...we will have a hard time. If our bigs need to rotate, get stuck out of position and foul because our guards are getting beat by laziness/carelessness, than a team with young guard play can hang their heads.

Awesome game to figure out where we are.

[THRILLHOUSE]

You might be able to stream the game through your phone/tablet using the Big 10 To Go (BTN2Go) app. Cincinnati Bell has some reciprocity... just like the WatchESPN app. You just have to find Cincinnati Bell under the provider list when you log in.

If it will show the live feed of the network feed I think Fioptics customers should be good. If it doesn't, the game might be on their "Plus" tier, but you can register for a month's worth of service for about $10 if you select a Big 10 school package... you'll see it in the app.

I'm going to test streaming that feed to my TV tonight through a Chromecast or FireTV stick.

http://www.btn2go.com/

Good luck.

Did this work? My parents are on Fioptics, so might need to let them know about this...but then again, the thought of trying to explain this to my non-tech savvy parents make me want to tell them to just listen Byron and Joe.

[MADXSTER]

9 hours till game time!!!!!

[blueblob06]

Did this work? My parents are on Fioptics, so might need to let them know about this...but then again, the thought of trying to explain this to my non-tech savvy parents make me want to tell them to just listen Byron and Joe.

I just tried the http://www.btn2go.com/ link and signed in with my Cincy Bell login and it worked! Going to try again between 7 and 9 tonight to make sure it will let me watch live basketball (there's a game on there before X/Mich) but it seems like it's gonna work.

Thanks for the link xu2006! GO MUSKIES!!

[casualfan]

I'm seeing Michigan at -5.5 on a few different sites.

Yep. It opened at Michigan -5.5 and has pretty much stayed right there...

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/offshore/line-movement/xavier-@-michigan.cfm/date/11-20-15/time/2100

[MuskieXU]

If people do not have access to the game I should be able to find an online stream of the game.

[bobbiemcgee]

Student group starting to form up since word got out Snipe is coming. :no: Sponsored by Depends. :eek:

[paulxu]

3 semester hour credit if you sit through his lecture at the bar on the Decline of Western Civilization.

[American X]

Being in the Big East allowing Xavier to play a ranked Big Ten team is pretty awesome. In the not too distant past, Xavier playing at Michigan would have been the biggest game on the schedule by far. It would also have been a guarantee game.

[XfansinKy]

Right now the Big Ten Network on DirectTv that has the Xavier vs Michigan game scheduled is ative. May have been all along, but the game may get blacked out after the Rider vs Maryland game for all I know. Apologies if someone has already posted something that's essentially the same.

[MuskieXU]

Being in the Big East allowing Xavier to play a ranked Big Ten team is pretty awesome. In the not too distant past, Xavier playing at Michigan would have been the biggest game on the schedule by far. It would also have been a guarantee game.

I totally get what youre saying, but we scheduled much better non conference games when we were in the A10. I was actually thinking about this today. This is out best nonconference game (not including UC) since...Florida in 2011?

[Xville]

I totally get what youre saying, but we scheduled much better non conference games when we were in the A10. I was actually thinking about this today. This is out best nonconference game (not including UC) since...Florida in 2011?

This. Our nonconference has actually been pretty subpar since we joined the big east and don't give me that Murray state bs. We should be scheduling 2-3 ganes like this in non conference aside from the tournaments in my opinion.

[BMoreX]

This MD-Rider game better not go late.

[KabeX]

Agree with the non-conf comments. Although not near as bad as U. of Clifton used to do when they were in the BE. But hey, I'm not telling you that Rutgers wouldn't win the A10 or anything. Good Lord how times have changed.

FWIW, Maze and Brew prediction (requisite apologies if this has already been posted. I'm lazy)
http://www.maizenbrew.com/2015/11/20/9761704/2015-2016-michigan-basketball-preview-xavier-musketeers-gavitt-games

[BMoreX]

Any live chat?

[American X]

Any live chat?

Sure, Live Chat (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=XavierHoops), unless you are a robot.

[xeus]

Sure, Live Chat (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=XavierHoops), unless you are a robot.

Not all robots are terrorists.

[bjf123]

Even though CinBell Fioptics doesn't carry BTN, I can get it with my CinBell login and the BTN Go app. Picture quality is OK streaming from my iPad to my TV. Let's go X!


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[BMoreX]

Not all robots are terrorists.

Live Chat is a safe space away from terrorists.

[XfansinKy]

X came to play

[MuskieXU]

Link to stream is here.

https://twitter.com/MuskieMusings

[sirthought]

Here is a stream with less spam.

http://cricfree.sx/watch/live/xavier-vs-michigan-live-streaming

[Xville]

Wsy to be reynolds...you are an upper class men it is time for you to grow the f up.

[sirthought]

Here is a VLC stream

http://bigtenmb247.cdnak.bigtenhd.neulion.com/mobile/data/btn2go/btnetwork/ipad_1840.m3u8

[Xville]

Levert is the real deal...

[paulxu]

I can't get any of the streams to work. (technically deficient)

What did Jalen do to get the T?

[sirthought]

I can't get any of the streams to work. (technically deficient)

What did Jalen do to get the T?

He went up for a dunk in heavy traffic and hung on the rim. I thought it was for safety, but whatever.

Try this stream. http://cricfree.sx/watch/live/xavier-vs-michigan-live-streaming

[waggy]

I've always been able to get VLC streams to work, but can't figure that one out. Can you just copy whatever is in your player and post it?

[XfansinKy]

James Farr struggling again

[sirthought]

The cricfree link is just a normal web browser stream.


The VLC links are really finicky. I have issues with it too..

[mohr5150]

I just love watching free throw practice in place of a basketball game.

[waggy]

The cricfree is full of pop-ups for me. I got a blocker that apparently isn't working.

[xavierj]

James Farr struggling again

So is the announcer calling the game. Guy is clueless.

[sirthought]

The cricfree is full of pop-ups for me. I got a blocker that apparently isn't working.

I use Chrome > Ad Block Plus > Avast Online Security

[letskeepitreal]

Xavier is playing tough tonight and Jalen has 13 with only one foul + a technical but we're up by 9 at the half. Can't ask for more. Sumner barely played with foul trouble and Macura only with 5

[BandAid]

So is the announcer calling the game. Guy is clueless.

Seth Davis doesn't help

[waggy]

I use Chrome > Ad Block Plus > Avast Online Security


You are being tracked. I'll never use Chrome.

[vee4xu]

Seth Davis doesn't help

I turned down the sound with about 7 minutes to go in the first half. Much easier to watch when I announce the game myself.

[XfansinKy]

So is the announcer calling the game. Guy is clueless.

Michigan just went on a run n abused him when he replaced Reynolds and yea they don't follow X like we do.

[XfansinKy]

Would love to see the only shots Farr takes from here on in dunks

[paulxu]

This is killing me not being able to watch this game. Screw the BTN.

[DART87]

This is killing me not being able to watch this game. Screw the BTN.

I would like to thank the BTN for allowing me to watch the stream with my Cincinnati Bell Fioptics account. But I do agree screw the BTN!

[XfansinKy]

Lol or a bunny Farr no struggle no more

[X Factor]

Sumner!!

[paulxu]

One more 4 minute war.

[XfansinKy]

As hard as I am on Farr, dude grabs everything that comes off the board.

[paulxu]

ESPN seems frozen at the 3:22 mark. What's going on?

[Drew]

84-70 1 minute LEFT. I LOVE YOU ALL!

[X Factor]

X up 84-70...

1 min left...Farr getting every rebound.

[waggy]

Hot damn!

[paulxu]

Hot Damn!

[X Factor]

Seth Davis, "They just beasted them."

He's still a douche.

[waggy]

Is there an echo in here? :happy:

[bobbiemcgee]

Some clutch playing right there on the road even.

[paulxu]

Nice timing Wags!

[JEHARDI]

Impressive, great win!

[Xville]

Huge road win!!!! Great job boys! Toughness...this is what will happen every game Farr and Reynolds show up together. Love it and a great kickoff to the weekend

[X-band '01]

Roadkill.

That is all.

[BMoreX]

Roadkill baby!

[Porkopolis]

Great win against a good opponent. This is the type of game that pays off in March.

[muskiefan82]

Thank you X-men for avenging two losses that have irritated me for years. This is shaping up to be helluva year!

[mohr5150]

Screw you, Big Ten. You are so stupid, you can't even count the number of teams you have. And screw Seth Davis and his douchiness. As X was putting the beat down on Michigan, he starts making excuses. He made up for it a little with the comments at the end, but he's still a douche. Hell yes, X!!!

[Backyard Champ]

Huge win. Really played well offensively, and some very timely 3's.

X is an awesome rebounding team, I love that.

I can only hope that was the worst Michigan plays all year.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

This impressive win vs a top 25 team on the road is going to open eyes for a lot of critics. Many players with 4 fouls, but no fear, this team is deep. Farr is a rebounding machine. Our FT shooting has been great so far, and that's important since teams are going to foul a lot with the new rules. Wonder if X would be ranked next week.

[muskiefan82]

Lavert is the real deal though. Wow.

[GordonBombay91]

Having to bear with Seth Davis all game makes this win sooooo much sweeter

[paulxu]

47-29 in the rebounding dept. may have been the difference in this game. (well, and having 4 guys in double figures with great balanced scoring doesn't hurt either)

[RoseyMuskie]

That was about as good as a win as you can get.

Road win, against ranked opponent.

Shoot well from the field.

Shoot well from the FT line.

Rebound well, and continually follow shot off long missed shots.

Balanced scoring.

One of the better victories we've witnessed recently.

[MauriceX]

47-29 in the rebounding dept. may have been the difference in this game. (well, and having 4 guys in double figures with great balanced scoring doesn't hurt either)

18 of those boards being on the offensive end made it even better. I loved those times we got 4th chances to score.

And on the hating Seth Davis bandwagon... I had a friend over that knows nothing about Xavier or Michigan basketball. About halfway through the game he says, "This announcer doesn't know anything, does he?"

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Excellent team victory for the Muskies tonight in Ann Arbor


Seth Davis, like his azzhat Dad, sucks royally


Bring on the Norse!

[waggy]

Currently #1 in RPI!


:whistle:

[gladdenguy]

Huge win. Hope GOMUSKIES bet Xavier +5 like I said. Ha.

Great team win. Wow. That was awesome. Not gonna be able to sleep tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[waggy]

Yes For Real AmX. Also, #1 in RPI SOS!

[Nigel Tufnel]

STRAIGHT BET
[537] ,XAVIER +195 (BIG 10)
10 /
20 20 WIN
WIN
11/20/2015 05:59 PM
Internet / -1 Ticket #: 61650521
Nov 20 07:19 PM
CBB
STRAIGHT BET
[2537] 2H ,XAVIER +6-110

Not a billionaire. But got tonight right.

[drudy23]

Representin...toughness tonight...i like it.

[gladdenguy]

Nice Nigel. Only the 5th time a Beilein coached Michigan team has given up 85. Great win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[xudash]

My brother calls me and asks me if I'm getting the game down here. I let him know that I don't have BSN on my package.

He Facetime's with me, points his camera at the TV and whalla!

Great last option for actually watching a great outcome.

[waggy]

I can't remember X ever being #1 in RPI at any point in any year. Anyone else?

I know meaningless, but still cool.

[vee4xu]

Currently #1 in RPI!


:whistle:

Now that is really cool! I don't care if it's the first week of the season. Seeing X atop that heap is awesome.

[sirthought]

Lots of positives, of course, but I feel like Remy Abell really had a standout game. He had to guard Lavert all night. Yeah, he scored 29, but it might have been much worse. Abell never gave up. Played 29 minutes. 15 points. No turnovers. Just a great game from him.

[sirthought]

I can't remember X ever being #1 in RPI at any point in any year. Anyone else?

I know meaningless, but still cool.

I remember them being #1 more than once. It was a long time ago, actually. Early 90s.

[waggy]

Now that is really cool!

When Vee and Waggy agree, it's cool certified!

[American X]

Props to both Abell and Macura for hitting big 3s when Michigan had narrowed the lead to one basket and was poised to retake the lead and go on a run. Clutch, difference-making shots by both.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

This win makes this weekend so sweet. Keep winning, boys!

[bobbiemcgee]

Seth Davis Retweeted Dante Jackson

Amazingly Xavier fans say I was much less biased in the second half. I win most improved!

Seth Davis added,
Dante Jackson @CoachDJackson25
Can someone tell me if @SethDavisHoops went to Michigan?
1 retweet 10 likes
Seth Davis ‏@SethDavisHoops 2h2 hours ago

Seth Davis Retweeted buddy hughes

Oh yeah? Watch me try.

Seth Davis added,
buddy hughes @the_budman
hey @SethDavisHoops be more anti-Xavier. You can't
5 retweets 25 likes
Seth Davis ‏@SethDavisHoops 2h2 hours ago

Seth Davis Retweeted Ian Zinsmeister

Lol biased

Seth Davis added,
Ian Zinsmeister @IK_Zinz
.@SethDavisHoops respectfully calling for 2nd half adjustments. Maybe be a little less biased? I know they might sign your paycheck...still
1 retweet 4 likes

[Blue Blooded-05]

Can anyone post a screen shot of RPI #1?? Everything I've checked isn't updated

[Masterofreality]

Instant analysis:

That was a f$&@king Ass Kicking of the First Order.

THAT......IS.....ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[waggy]

http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

[vee4xu]

I tired but failed!

[MauriceX]

http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

When the teams that follow are Cal St. Bakersfield, Chattanooga, Hofstra, and Louisiana Tech...

I'm still gonna screenshot it though! #1 in the country!

[waggy]

1801


Hmm?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just got to my hotel! Lets fuckng GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEah buddy!!

[bobbiemcgee]

Shannon Russell ‏@slrussell 2m2 minutes ago Ann Arbor, MI

Reynolds, Bluiett and Abell finished with 15 points. Myles Davis had 14. James Farr had 13 rebounds and eight points. #Xavier
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Shannon Russell ‏@slrussell 3m3 minutes ago Ann Arbor, MI

"tremendous grit. They've got a great mix of guys that can drive the ball & shoot the ball. They're sitting on something great right now."
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Shannon Russell ‏@slrussell 4m4 minutes ago Ann Arbor, MI

Beilein: "They've got all the pieces. They're just really good. They hit the backboards much better than us. They got loose balls ..."
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Shannon Russell ‏@slrussell 5m5 minutes ago Ann Arbor, MI

Beilein: "We've seen some really good teams come in here...and that was as good a team I've seen come in here at any time." #Xavier
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Shannon Russell ‏@slrussell 6m6 minutes ago Ann Arbor, MI

Beilein said @23Abell and @_mdavis15 looked like "grown men. "They went right at us."
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Shannon Russell ‏@slrussell 7m7 minutes ago

John Beilein: "@JFarr2 - any rebound he wanted, he got. And @TrevonBluiett as well." #Xavier
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[D-West & PO-Z]

Props to both Abell and Macura for hitting big 3s when Michigan had narrowed the lead to one basket and was poised to retake the lead and go on a run. Clutch, difference-making shots by both.

Remy was huge tonight. Hit two huge three's to stymie runs.

[sirthought]

Of course Davis looked like a grown man...it was the beard and bald head.

[Michigan Muskie]

Props to both Abell and Macura for hitting big 3s when Michigan had narrowed the lead to one basket and was poised to retake the lead and go on a run. Clutch, difference-making shots by both.

I just got home from the game ... this is what we discussed on our ride home from Ann Arbor. Both times when Michigan pulled within two points, the crowd really got into the game. Both times, X responded with ice-cold threes. Michigan never recovered from the second one.

My friend and neighbor whose son attends U of M said after the game that Xavier dominated every facet of the game: shooting, rebounding, foul shooting, and most notably effort and hustle. Thank you, JP.

X was represented well in the arena. It helps that our fans had more to cheer about than theirs, but our contingent was quite vocal. I wasn't sitting with the majority of X fans, but we were enjoying their chatter all night. Then, after the game, X fans essentially took over the concourse area in Crisler as the crowd streamed out of the building chanting "Let's go X!" Made my hair stand on end.

I almost didn't buy tickets to this game. My son plays in a hoops tourney at noon Saturday and we were on the fence due to the arrival home at midnight after the game. Couldn't be more pleased with our decision to go. This is a fun, fun team to watch.

[LA Muskie]

Can anyone post a screen shot of RPI #1?? Everything I've checked isn't updated

I like feel a lot better about #1 if Chattanooga wasn't #2.


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[D-West & PO-Z]

PS they had the nicest ushers in the history of Ushers. Every single one stopped said hi and said we are glad to have you. The arena is beautiful and awesome, first class operation up there. I had only pleasant interactions with all of their fans. Great experience and not just because of the win.

Oh and Michigan has more money than they know what to do with. How plush were those seats!

[XMuskieFTW]

That was so perfect. So well played by everyone. I'm ecstatic right now.

[Michigan Muskie]

PS they had the nicest ushers in the history of Ushers. Every single one stopped said hi and said we are glad to have you. The arena is beautiful and awesome, first class operation up there. I had only pleasant interactions with all of their fans. Great experience and not just because of the win.

Oh and Michigan has more money than they know what to do with. How plush were those seats!

Agreed for the most part. We were stuck in front of a group of four students who were just plain ignorant. I'm no saint, but the constant flow of F-bombs with two 11-year-old kids sitting right in front of them got kind of old. The student sitting directly behind me kept saying, "I can't believe we're gonna lose to this sh*tty f*ckin' team!" He also yelled "And one!" every single time Michigan put up a shot. Every. Single. Time. But I was a college student once, too ... I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they probably engaged in some pregame activity before this 9 PM tip on a Friday night. And with the 16-pt destruction, they are instantly forgiven.

Other than those guys, everyone else was a peach.

[IM4X]

This is an effort even John Wooden would be proud of.

I can't remember an X team in 10+years that's showed this kind of tenacity and hustle.

Love this team!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Agreed for the most part. We were stuck in front of a group of four students who were just plain ignorant. I'm no saint, but the constant flow of F-bombs with two 11-year-old kids sitting right in front of them got kind of old. The student sitting directly behind me kept saying, "I can't believe we're gonna lose to this sh*tty f*ckin' team!" He also yelled "And one!" every single time Michigan put up a shot. Every. Single. Time. But I was a college student once, too ... I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they probably engaged in some pregame activity before this 9 PM tip on a Friday night. And with the 16-pt destruction, they are instantly forgiven.

Other than those guys, everyone else was a peach.

Yeah that is too bad, college kids are dumb. I was in 134 and interacted with several fans all awesome. Left and said good game good luck, you have a great team. And people walking past us we didnt even talk to said the same. And those ushers man, was it just me that noticed that!? LOL

[KC4X]

Student group starting to form up since word got out Snipe is coming. :no: Sponsored by Depends. :eek:

Damnit! Somebody rep him for me!

[IM4X]

JP is looking like most improved player this year. With Farr coming in 2nd.

[Michigan Muskie]

Yeah that is too bad, college kids are dumb. I was in 134 and interacted with several fans all awesome. Left and said good game good luck, you have a great team. And people walking past us we didnt even talk to said the same. And those ushers man, was it just me that noticed that!? LOL

No, it wasn't just you. We encountered just two ushers, but both of them treated me like I was their grandson.

[XMuskieFTW]

No, it wasn't just you. We encountered just two ushers, but both of them treated me like I was their grandson.

Yea was talking with the usher in 101 before the game. Turns out his two nieces go to X right now. Tried to get him to admit to secretly cheering for us but with no luck. Great guy to come interact with us.

[GuyFawkes38]

Oh and Michigan has more money than they know what to do with. How plush were those seats!

Yes! The opposite experience from a Michigan football game where they cram fans into tiny bleacher seats.

Awesome stuff. What really struck me was how much quicker, athletic, and longer we were than Michigsn (a top 25 Big Ten team). What a program we have going.

[scoscox]

Dang, this team is good. Great guard depth and two really good small forwards in JP and Trevon and if James and Jalen play like they can, they can do some serious damage. Just need the twin towers to make a point to dominate the post. Edmond's dunk was nasty too.

[MuskieXU]

My thoughts and some gifs from the game are posted here.

http://musketeermusings.com/2015/11/21/xavier-vs-michigan-game-recap/

The writing is sub par but I was more focused on getting some of the highlights up for those that didnt see the game. I may do some revising and add a few more gifs tomorrow (let me know if I missed any plays you'd like to see.) As always, thanks for reading.

[X-Fan]

Yeah that is too bad, college kids are dumb. I was in 134 and interacted with several fans all awesome. Left and said good game good luck, you have a great team. And people walking past us we didnt even talk to said the same. And those ushers man, was it just me that noticed that!? LOL

This type of interaction and others that were mentioned are very typical of what I've come to expect from the Michigan fan base. They are respectful and courteous. I was at the Toledo win over Michigan at the Big House in 2008. Thought for sure I would get killed leaving the game. Quite the opposite.

Was at tonight's game and was so proud of this team! From the jump, X played with toughness ident and intensity! Going into the game I was worried about Michigans 3 pt offense, and X played really tough D. Michigan had to really work for their points, and even when they hit a shot X didn't get down. This was possibly the best man to man D X has played in 2 years.

X's depth really paid off as fouls were being called frequently. Coach Mack wisely sat Ed most of the 1st half after getting 2 quick fouls, and it paid off BIG time in the 2nd half. Solid games from Tre, Remy, JP, Myles, Larry, James, Jalen, and Ed. They wanted it more than Michigan and it showed. Also, X's inside advantage was very evident throughout the game.

Way to go fellas!!!!

[waggy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I97ctWO-ba0

[MauriceX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I97ctWO-ba0

The face of Seth Davis on the freeze frame to start the video makes it twice as good.

[nasdadjr]

People are talking about how much better we look and how long we are. This is not meant to be a knock on the guy because he was so good offensively but I don't think it's a coincidence we are more active on the boards and better defensively now that stainbrook isn't here anymore. Once again let me say I liked stains lot and his court vision was second to none, but he won't be mistaken for the guy with the highest vertical or the quickest feet. On the defensive end that hurt with lack of blocks and little rebounding. Having bigger leaner taller post players who can jump is helping a lot in both ends of the floor. We have an interior right now that very few schools can match up with and if sumner keeps developing and we can put a 6'6 monster on the point we will always have a huge advantage down low. With this win and what I saw tonight though I fully expect us to not lose a damn game to seton hall this year lol

[xukeith]

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2016/conference/Big%20East

NUMBER 1 in the nation in RPI. lol

[nasdadjr]

Don't know if this was commented on but I'm watching the replay and it is damn loud when x hits a big shot. To those in attendance how many x fans were filling the arena?

[Muskie]

From the texts and emails I've received. Seems like a decent contingent of people were there. Agree it seems loud on tv.


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[nasdadjr]

Does anyone else find it funny osu doesn't play in the Gavin so they can keep a home game then lose to Texas Arlington during the same time. Classic

[Muskie]

Does anyone else find it funny osu doesn't play in the Gavin so they can keep a home game then lose to Texas Arlington during the same time. Classic

I'm sure they will be in it next year.


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[XUOWNSUC]

http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

Xavier versus Chattanooga for the national championship!

[Michigan Muskie]

Here's a link to the U of M Basketball facebook page. I offer this to you for the comments below the game recap. Brew a cup of coffee and enjoy...

U of M Basketball (https://www.facebook.com/MichiganBasketball/timeline)

[X-Fan]

People are talking about how much better we look and how long we are. This is not meant to be a knock on the guy because he was so good offensively but I don't think it's a coincidence we are more active on the boards and better defensively now that stainbrook isn't here anymore. Once again let me say I liked stains lot and his court vision was second to none, but he won't be mistaken for the guy with the highest vertical or the quickest feet. On the defensive end that hurt with lack of blocks and little rebounding. Having bigger leaner taller post players who can jump is helping a lot in both ends of the floor. We have an interior right now that very few schools can match up with and if sumner keeps developing and we can put a 6'6 monster on the point we will always have a huge advantage down low. With this win and what I saw tonight though I fully expect us to not lose a damn game to seton hall this year lol

Great performance last night, but it's only game 3. Michigans bigs this year are average at best, and X is a really bad matchup for them. I think X played their best man to man D in years last night, but that doesn't mean they won't have issues against a team with better/capable big men.


Don't know if this was commented on but I'm watching the replay and it is damn loud when x hits a big shot. To those in attendance how many x fans were filling the arena?

X had a solid contingent there, especially in one of the upper corners you could clearly hear the Lets Go X chant! And yes, after Ed hit his dagger 3, all X fans erupted!! Next to X over Texas in '04, this was one of my favorite away from home wins I've seen in person! So proud of our guys!!!!

[BMoreX]

That's going to look really nice on the resume in March.

[MADXSTER]

That's going to look really nice on the resume in March.

The last couple of years Xavier has been stressed by needing a major OOC road win. This year Xavier has one three games into the season.

[gladdenguy]

The last couple of years Xavier has been stressed by needing a major OOC road win. This year Xavier has one three games into the season.

Great point. It feels great to have that feather in the cap this early in the season. If X can beat Alabama (which they should, Wichita St. would be a great test and another opportunity to get a neutral win early on as well.

[xuwin]

It's great to have an abundance of ball handlers with the length to guard the perimeter shooters. For those who were concerned about the point guard position I think think this game laid that to rest. The next big test will be when we play a team with a strong inside presence. Do we have some big men that can guard them without fouling out? We need another big to step up besides Reynolds and Farr.

For those who haven't noticed, Bluiett plays much bigger than his size and is a solid rebounder in addition to being a scorer. He holds his own against bigger men and is very difficult for them to guard.

[drudy23]

#1 in the nation!!!

[GoMuskies]

I love that we play NKU next, because no matter how much of a letdown we have after this amazing game, we're going to be hard pressed to lose to the Norse.

[bobbiemcgee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6OsG-ytXN8

[xudash]

Don't know if this was commented on but I'm watching the replay and it is damn loud when x hits a big shot. To those in attendance how many x fans were filling the arena?

I mentioned earlier that I watched it via a FaceTime session with my brother. It was audible to me.

[D West]

Yes! The opposite experience from a Michigan football game where they cram fans into tiny bleacher seats.

Awesome stuff. What really struck me was how much quicker, athletic, and longer we were than Michigsn (a top 25 Big Ten team). What a program we have going.



And what a great coaching staff we have!!! Mack is embarrassing his handful of critics. He's recruiting a group of athlete this school hasn't touched in past years. 4 stars consistently and eventually will break through with a few 5's IMO. The move to the BIG EAST is part of this success.

[muskienick]

It's great to have an abundance of ball handlers with the length to guard the perimeter shooters. For those who were concerned about the point guard position I think think this game laid that to rest. The next big test will be when we play a team with a strong inside presence. Do we have some big men that can guard them without fouling out? We need another big to step up besides Reynolds and Farr.

For those who haven't noticed, Bluiett plays much bigger than his size and is a solid rebounder in addition to being a scorer. He holds his own against bigger men and is very difficult for them to guard.

Bluiett reminds me a lot of Justin Cage except that he's a better scorer than Justin was.

[xu82]

I always record the games. I don't always go back and watch them again. That was the first thing I did today.

[IM4X]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6OsG-ytXN8

Thanks for posting. I was looking for Mack's post game remarks last night and couldn't find it.

[LoveHoops]

great game, too bad Seth Davis and co. tried to downplay the domination.

[XUFan09]

Here's a link to the U of M Basketball facebook page. I offer this to you for the comments below the game recap. Brew a cup of coffee and enjoy...

U of M Basketball (https://www.facebook.com/MichiganBasketball/timeline)

My favorite is the guy who insists that Michigan should have won, that they just needed to make their free throws, hit their threes, and defend well. Um, if Michigan hits their average on free throws, threes, and twos, they still lose by 8, and Xavier's defense might have had something to do with missed field goals. Plus, Michigan's defense was good; Xavier just has more offensive options than starters.

[XUFan09]

great game, too bad Seth Davis and co. tried to downplay the domination.

They described the game as Xavier "pulling away in the end," as if it was a close, hard-fought game for most of it and Xavier just had a bit extra at the end. Sure, they pulled away, just from the 7 to 9 point margin they were hovering around for most of the second half.

[Caveat]

It's one thing to have talented players.

It's another thing to have talented players who buy in and are flying around the court, chasing loose balls, crashing the boards and following their misses to get second chance points.

I love what I'm seeing from the entire TEAM right now.

[RoadWarrior]

Congrats to a well fought game, but I really do need to give props to Mack for leaving Reynolds in with fouls. Most would have sat him down, but Mack allowed him to stay in a rhythm, as well as, having Jalen learn that he will get all the PT he wants, provided he plays within himself and not let emotion get the best of him.
Great coaching and great response by Jalen and the whole team!

[Muskeagle]

They described the game as Xavier "pulling away in the end," as if it was a close, hard-fought game for most of it and Xavier just had a bit extra at the end. Sure, they pulled away, just from the 7 to 9 point margin they were hovering around for most of the second half.

I watched in a bar last night....with no sound. I just finished rewatching it on the Big 10 stream, with sound. There were fluctuations in the lead, and it felt like X was often in control (maybe moreso today...since I knew the outcome), but the game was a two point game with about 8 minutes left. It was hard fought, but X separated in the final 8 minutes.

I've seen a lot of complaining about Davis...and he's not my favorite, but I honestly didn't think he was bad at all during the game. His observations were mostly on point. He was aware of the changes the team made from last year, of Farr's development, of the strengths of both teams. I'm really not sure what the problem with him was.

[Emp]

Chris Mack out coached Belein. We were better prepared, made better adjustments.

I was surprised at the extra timeout to end the half. We have the lead, already used the "take it or lose it" TO. IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE A DESIGNED TO DRAW A FOUL PLAY. Miles certainly waited for the defender to bite on the fake. Three straight free throws, real momentum into the locker room.

[markchal]

Terrific, gritty win, but was anyone be else less than impressed with this Michigan team? I have no idea what the rest of he b10 looks like this year, but I think they could have some real trouble with such a soft front court. Levert is a stud though.

On our end, lots to be happy with but the biggest surprise to me so far is how aggressive Sumner is. He's fearless in a way Tu was as a frosh, and while I'm not thrilled with some of his TOs and the possessions where he keeps the ball in his hands for 20 seconds before driving, he has blown me away so far and I'm really excited to watch him progress.

[XUFan09]

Terrific, gritty win, but was anyone be else less than impressed with this Michigan team? I have no idea what the rest of he b10 looks like this year, but I think they could have some real trouble with such a soft front court. Levert is a stud though.

On our end, lots to be happy with but the biggest surprise to me so far is how aggressive Sumner is. He's fearless in a way Tu was as a frosh, and while I'm not thrilled with some of his TOs and the possessions where he keeps the ball in his hands for 20 seconds before driving, he has blown me away so far and I'm really excited to watch him progress.

They seemed like a tournament team but not a top-25 team. However, we should keep in mind that their major weakness (rebounding) is something that Xavier in particular could exploit better than most teams in the country, and they didn't really have any athletic slashers on the wing that could punish our slower-footed wings. It was a bad matchup for Michigan, kind of like how last year Xavier was a bad matchup for Georgetown.

[X-Fan]

Lot's of great observations/points from you guys...


It's great to have an abundance of ball handlers with the length to guard the perimeter shooters. For those who were concerned about the point guard position I think think this game laid that to rest. The next big test will be when we play a team with a strong inside presence. Do we have some big men that can guard them without fouling out? We need another big to step up besides Reynolds and Farr.

For those who haven't noticed, Bluiett plays much bigger than his size and is a solid rebounder in addition to being a scorer. He holds his own against bigger men and is very difficult for them to guard.

Our guards certainly held their own. I would have liked to see more ball pressure from Larry, but Michigan's guards are bigger so I get why he couldn't be as aggressive as Ed was in the 2nd half.

I could not be more impressed with Tre's progression from last year to this year. He played SOLID D, even guarding LeVert a few times, and hit CLUTCH shots. He's in great shape and is playing with tremendous confidence. Yesterday he did a great job letting the game come to him and not forcing anything. Just awesome stuff!


Bluiett reminds me a lot of Justin Cage except that he's a better scorer than Justin was.

I had the same thought. He has the solid frame, doesn't mind banging and doing the dirty work, but certainly has a better jump shot. Cage could do some work down low with the right matchup, and he was the ultimate warrior. Tre's just a Soph, but I see a lot of Justin Cage in him...and that's a VERY GOOD thing!


They described the game as Xavier "pulling away in the end," as if it was a close, hard-fought game for most of it and Xavier just had a bit extra at the end. Sure, they pulled away, just from the 7 to 9 point margin they were hovering around for most of the second half.

I'll say this, X was up 12 with 4 minutes to go and I was still afraid Michigan might go on a game tying run. That is how explosive their offense can be. X forced them into a bad offensive rhythm, but they could have gotten it going if one or two of those shots fall.


Congrats to a well fought game, but I really do need to give props to Mack for leaving Reynolds in with fouls. Most would have sat him down, but Mack allowed him to stay in a rhythm, as well as, having Jalen learn that he will get all the PT he wants, provided he plays within himself and not let emotion get the best of him.
Great coaching and great response by Jalen and the whole team!

That was a really ballsy decision. I thought Mack was crazy, especially since Jalen wasn't exactly "minding his own business" if you will. ;-) That T on Jalen was BS. He barely hung on the rim. The 4th foul was a "wrong place, wrong time" sequence. Jalen could take a few notes from JP on how to agitate your opponent, express emotion, and not draw the ire of the officials. Ha!


Chris Mack out coached Belein. We were better prepared, made better adjustments.

I was surprised at the extra timeout to end the half. We have the lead, already used the "take it or lose it" TO. IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE A DESIGNED TO DRAW A FOUL PLAY. Miles certainly waited for the defender to bite on the fake. Three straight free throws, real momentum into the locker room.

Great job by Coach Mack and the entire coaching staff! There was tremendous communication going on continuously throughout the game between the players and many of the coaches. Total team effort. Also, that last TO and drawn 3-pt foul was savvy as He11! I don' t know if that was "the play" or if it was Myles "old man" balling LeVert, it was awesome to get the 3 FT's and stretch the lead to 9 at the Half.


Terrific, gritty win, but was anyone be else less than impressed with this Michigan team? I have no idea what the rest of he b10 looks like this year, but I think they could have some real trouble with such a soft front court. Levert is a stud though.

On our end, lots to be happy with but the biggest surprise to me so far is how aggressive Sumner is. He's fearless in a way Tu was as a frosh, and while I'm not thrilled with some of his TOs and the possessions where he keeps the ball in his hands for 20 seconds before driving, he has blown me away so far and I'm really excited to watch him progress.

I think Michigan is a good team and will be fine. X is a really bad matchup for them in that both teams have a lot of similar players...except down low where X is way better. Add that Irvin and Spike are both knocking off post surgery rust, their PG Walton hasn't taken control of the offense, and LeVert was trying to do a bit too much on his own. This takes nothing away from what X did though. I'm just saying Michigan has a great coach in Beilein and they will get better.

[XUFan09]

I watched in a bar last night....with no sound. I just finished rewatching it on the Big 10 stream, with sound. There were fluctuations in the lead, and it felt like X was often in control (maybe moreso today...since I knew the outcome), but the game was a two point game with about 8 minutes left. It was hard fought, but X separated in the final 8 minutes.

I've seen a lot of complaining about Davis...and he's not my favorite, but I honestly didn't think he was bad at all during the game. His observations were mostly on point. He was aware of the changes the team made from last year, of Farr's development, of the strengths of both teams. I'm really not sure what the problem with him was.

Yes, at one point in the second half Xavier was only up two. Actually, twice in the second half it was only a one-possession game. However, there were also a couple times where Xavier was up double digits before the closing minutes. The reason I didn't mention these instances on either side is because they were the outliers, and the 7 to 9 range was the much more common margin (Thinking about it, more like 6 to 9, but still). Xavier generally controlled the half, and though Michigan clawed back to make it close a couple times, Xavier immediately responded and pushed it back to a multi-possession game.

I should clarify that when I hear "a hardfought game" with one team "pulling away in the end," I picture a game that is back and forth with multiple lead changes until one team puts their foot on the gas in the closing minutes. This was decidedly not that. This was instead a game where Xavier controlled the late first half and most of the second half before dominating at the end. Michigan got close enough for marginal hope but they were rarely actually in the game.

I really don't care one way or another about Seth Davis, finding him just mediocre, but just that line annoyed me.

[XUFan09]

That T on Jalen was BS. He barely hung on the rim.

Definitely. My friend said that the refs should make him earn his Ts (and he likely will). That "hanging on the rim" is exactly what happens to just about any player that goes up for a dunk only to lose control of the ball just before flushing it in. It's a natural moment of hesitation because it doesn't feel right to grab on to the rim without sensing the ball going through the net.

In general, I despise the "hanging on the rim" rule. It seems like 90% of the time, a player gets called for it when he is just hanging on until he can safely drop down. Apparently refs want dunkers to clip other players on the way down, so they can half-flip and hit their heads on the ground.

[nasdadjr]

I don't know how to box quotes so here goes my final points

1. I didn't think sumner played very well. Had a couple good plays but I thought he tried to push the ball and had a few really dumb turnovers when nothing was there. Not blasting him but I could tell it was his first big game as a young guy. He will learn from it and get better.

2. Myles Davis deserves a ton a credit. Taking over the point duties when sumner had fouls trouble was huge especially since we had only 2 first half turnovers with him at the point.

3. I know it's only 3 games my point was not we are a lock for the final 4 my point is having 2 big men who are long lean strong and quick allows them to block shots and position for rebounds better than stain ever could.

4. I don't think you can compare cage and Trevon. Cage was longer and was a very good driver and inside scorer who developed an outside game. Trevon has the outside game and is learning how to play more inside. Almost the complete opposite.

5. Finally I loved the grit and poise this team showed. How many times in that second half did Michigan hit 2 big threes or make 2 big plays to cut the lead to one possession then remy jp or whoever would instantly put the crowd back in their seats? I saw a swagger and a confidence in this team I have not seen since The Run. No one looked scared of the environment or michigans runs. That is probably my biggest take from this game. One more note Michigan will be very good in the big 10 with probably a top 2 or 3 finish. That is a top 5 seed ncaa team we just beat in their place

[Backyard Champ]

Definitely. My friend said that the refs should make him earn his Ts (and he likely will). That "hanging on the rim" is exactly what happens to just about any player that goes up for a dunk only to lose control of the ball just before flushing it in. It's a natural moment of hesitation because it doesn't feel right to grab on to the rim without sensing the ball going through the net.

In general, I despise the "hanging on the rim" rule. It seems like 90% of the time, a player gets called for it when he is just hanging on until they he safely drop down. Apparently refs want dunkers to clip other players on the way down, so they can half-flip and hit their heads on the ground.

I think all his Technical fouls this year were soft. And his 4th foul was garbage, everyone thought it was on the Michigan player.

I could be wrong, and I'm certainly too lazy to look it up, but I think I remember hearing that if you go for a dunk, miss and try for the rebound while still hanging on the rim, it's an automatic T. I could be wrong on that and likely am, but if that is the case, Reynolds certainly did that.

[bobbiemcgee]

Sumner hit some big shots when we needed him. 9/3 in 21 mins. He'll do better with the to's.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

With this win, X is now ranked 19th by cbs sports.

[MauriceX]

Definitely. My friend said that the refs should make him earn his Ts (and he likely will). That "hanging on the rim" is exactly what happens to just about any player that goes up for a dunk only to lose control of the ball just before flushing it in. It's a natural moment of hesitation because it doesn't feel right to grab on to the rim without sensing the ball going through the net.

In general, I despise the "hanging on the rim" rule. It seems like 90% of the time, a player gets called for it when he is just hanging on until they he safely drop down. Apparently refs want dunkers to clip other players on the way down, so they can half-flip and hit their heads on the ground.

I wonder if the rule for hanging on the rim comes from the same place that the rule about not dunking in pregame warm-ups came from. The reason the pregame rule was around was because they didn't want to break backboards. Since the NCAA got rid of the pregame rule, I wonder if there is a chance they reconsider the hanging on the rim rule. Players would never have to compromise their safety to avoid a foul, and if a player does hang on the rim too long, the other team could push the ball up the court quickly, which is punishment enough.

[timmyg]

Definitely. My friend said that the refs should make him earn his Ts (and he likely will). That "hanging on the rim" is exactly what happens to just about any player that goes up for a dunk only to lose control of the ball just before flushing it in. It's a natural moment of hesitation because it doesn't feel right to grab on to the rim without sensing the ball going through the net.

In general, I despise the "hanging on the rim" rule. It seems like 90% of the time, a player gets called for it when he is just hanging on until they he safely drop down. Apparently refs want dunkers to clip other players on the way down, so they can half-flip and hit their heads on the ground.

It's an automatic T if you hang on the rim and touch the ball after it come off the rim with the other hand (while still hanging on rim)

[MuskieXU]

I think all his Technical fouls this year were soft. And his 4th foul was garbage, everyone thought it was on the Michigan player.

I could be wrong, and I'm certainly too lazy to look it up, but I think I remember hearing that if you go for a dunk, miss and try for the rebound while still hanging on the rim, it's an automatic T. I could be wrong on that and likely am, but if that is the case, Reynolds certainly did that.

I dont know with certainty either but I'm pretty sure thats the case. That was also the impression I got from the announcers reaction.

[XUFan09]

It's an automatic T if you hang on the rim and touch the ball after it come off the rim with the other hand (while still hanging on rim)

Ah, I missed him touching the ball in that crowd of players. That would explain it. I thought it bounced off his body after he lost control of it or got stripped going up for the dunk.

[Xtemporaneous]

Michigan's bigs are soft as Charmin. If you watched warm ups you could see how much more athletic our bigs were. Even the dunking show that XU put on right before the 12:00 pregame mark. There was no comparison.

They are way to dependent on LeVert to drive and kick. Completely a one-trick pony and will have to find themselves quick before conference play begins. Just imagine every B1G coach is watching that game film from last night.

EDIT:
Sorry forgot the quote I was responding to -
Terrific, gritty win, but was anyone be else less than impressed with this Michigan team? I have no idea what the rest of he b10 looks like this year, but I think they could have some real trouble with such a soft front court. Levert is a stud though.

[XUFan09]

Michigan's bigs are soft as Charmin. If you watched warm ups you could see how much more athletic our bigs were. Even the dunking show that XU put on right before the 12:00 pregame mark. There was no comparison.

They are way to dependent on LeVert to drive and kick. Completely a one-trick pony and will have to find themselves quick before conference play begins. Just imagine every B1G coach is watching that game film from last night.

EDIT:
Sorry forgot the quote I was responding to -
Zak Irvin is probably still recovering from back surgery and should be very good for them.

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[TUclutch]

Definitely. My friend said that the refs should make him earn his Ts (and he likely will). That "hanging on the rim" is exactly what happens to just about any player that goes up for a dunk only to lose control of the ball just before flushing it in. It's a natural moment of hesitation because it doesn't feel right to grab on to the rim without sensing the ball going through the net.

In general, I despise the "hanging on the rim" rule. It seems like 90% of the time, a player gets called for it when he is just hanging on until he can safely drop down. Apparently refs want dunkers to clip other players on the way down, so they can half-flip and hit their heads on the ground.

As someone else mentioned, the technical was not for hanging on the rim. It was for reaching for and touching the ball while still hanging on the rim. Refs aren't going to call a technical for hanging on the rim if someone is below you. Like on Sumners dunk against Miami. If he had simply hung htere while the space cleared, he wouldn't have gotten the T. Instead of hanging on the rim, he did a legit pullup while hanging. That was why he got the technical.

[bobbiemcgee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnd1ZDotbqE&spfreload=10

[MuskieXU]

There has been a lot of noise lately about teams "going small," but I think in actuality teams are going more athletic. Luckily for us we have players that are both tall and athletic and that give us a huge advantage on rebounding without sacrificing much if any on defense.

[waggy]

I think it's the 3 pointer. If you have a big guy that doesn't give you much offense from the post, plus can't guard a smaller 4 on the defensive end, it's a double whammy. Yes, the dreaded double whammy. Might as well put someone the floor that gives you some 3 offense and defense.

[X-Fan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnd1ZDotbqE&spfreload=10

Thanks for posting this! Reps! I saw it in X's FB page, but didn't get around to finding the YouTube link. What a great win for the program!

Go X!!!!

[MADXSTER]

Ok, so I re-watched the game but this time with sound. Seth Davis does not care for Xavier or the Big East. I know, Big News Flash. But WOW!! He even screwed up by saying at the 6:34 mark in the 2nd half, WE need to start scoring if Michigan is going to come back. That was icing on the cake after all the other comments.

[xu82]

Ok, so I re-watched the game but this time with sound. Seth Davis does not care for Xavier or the Big East. I know, Big News Flash. But WOW!! He even screwed up by saying at the 6:34 mark in the 2nd half, WE need to start scoring if Michigan is going to come back. That was icing on the cake after all the other comments.

I guess I'm not a good listener, but I missed that. I tune those guys out to some extent, but that's just too blatant. But it could be worse, we could have Dicky V doing our games! I'd have to do the radio simulcast thing if that were the case.

[nasdadjr]

But I will say it's not really his role to be objective. He is announcing the game for the big ten network so that isn't as unimaginable as some think it is

[Caveat]

I used the DVR and had the sound synched up with Byron & Joe's audio from my phone for the game last night. I regret absolutely nothing about the decision after reading the posts on here.

[MADXSTER]

But I will say it's not really his role to be objective. He is announcing the game for the big ten network so that isn't as unimaginable as some think it is

If Seth is a BTN announcer then that makes sense. If he was a guest announcer then I would say that he shouldn't be that biased.

[X-Fan]

I used the DVR and had the sound synched up with Byron & Joe's audio from my phone for the game last night. I regret absolutely nothing about the decision after reading the posts on here.

Nice! Any good takeaways from Byron?!? I bet he and Joe were going nuts!

[Juice]

Ok, so I re-watched the game but this time with sound. Seth Davis does not care for Xavier or the Big East. I know, Big News Flash. But WOW!! He even screwed up by saying at the 6:34 mark in the 2nd half, WE need to start scoring if Michigan is going to come back. That was icing on the cake after all the other comments.

He seemed to really hate Jalen as well. Seth Davis sucks.

[Masterofreality]

I used the DVR and had the sound synched up with Byron & Joe's audio from my phone for the game last night. I regret absolutely nothing about the decision after reading the posts on here.

Exactly the same here. Takes a bit but you can synch it, and so much better listening to XU guys!

[STL_XUfan]

This board is way more fun when we are winning.

[MADXSTER]

This board is way more fun when we are winning.

Well that settles it, Xavier has to just keep on winning

[X-man]

Three opponents with names beginning with "M", and three "W's". Now for an opponent with a name beginning with "N".

[THRILLHOUSE]

If Seth is a BTN announcer then that makes sense. If he was a guest announcer then I would say that he shouldn't be that biased.

He's a BTN announcer, along with his SI and CBS gigs. (that said, regardless, Davis is awful and a snake oil salesman. So really, f-ck that guy)

[WCWIII]

I may be wrong, but I think the win over Michigan was the 2nd-ever
out-of-conference, road win, against a then ranked opponent (not-named UC)

We beat No 20 Vandy on the road in 2011. Did I miss any others? Note: I'm not counting games at neutral sites / tournaments.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I may be wrong, but I think the win over Michigan was the 2nd-ever
out-of-conference, road win, against a then ranked opponent (not-named UC)

We beat No 20 Vandy on the road in 2011. Did I miss any others? Note: I'm not counting games at neutral sites / tournaments.

Could be. It's so rare that we play a true road game against a ranked out of conference opponent.

[X-Fan]

Could be. It's so rare that we play a true road game against a ranked out of conference opponent.

So true. Yet another awesome benefit of being in the Big East. Even better was going into the game knowing that this wouldn't be X's only chance for a big win this year. It was just a really good test but X would still have a ton of great opportunities left because of the conference we are in. Great stuff!

[XU 87]

I may be wrong, but I think the win over Michigan was the 2nd-ever
out-of-conference, road win, against a then ranked opponent (not-named UC)

We beat No 20 Vandy on the road in 2011. Did I miss any others? Note: I'm not counting games at neutral sites / tournaments.

1978 Tennessee Christmas Tournament. The Tay Baker led Muskies beat top 20 USC and then top 20 Tennessee.

And then later in the season lost at home to D2 NKU.

[X-band '01]

I wonder if that's when Dan Doellman (Justin Doellman's dad) played at NKU.

[IM4X]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnd1ZDotbqE&spfreload=10

Nice video that I hadn't seen. Thanks for posting!

[vee4xu]

1978 Tennessee Christmas Tournament. The Tay Baker led Muskies beat top 20 USC and then top 20 Tennessee.

And then later in the season lost at home to D2 NKU.

I graduated in June 1978 and recall those games. Thought it was while I was there, but don't recall either way. It wouldn't surprise me if that SOB, Tay decided to win those games the season right after my graduation. He was an awful coach.

[vee4xu]

I wonder if that's when Dan Doellman (Justin Doellman's dad) played at NKU.


He may have been. I saw him play against X during my time there, 1974-1978, but can't remember which year.

[SemajParlor]

I may be wrong, but I think the win over Michigan was the 2nd-ever
out-of-conference, road win, against a then ranked opponent (not-named UC)

We beat No 20 Vandy on the road in 2011. Did I miss any others? Note: I'm not counting games at neutral sites / tournaments.

Just checked up on this. Surprised Florida wasn't ranked when we won in Gainesville.

[paulxu]

out-of-conference, road win, against a then ranked opponent (not-named UC)

Hah.

[bobbiemcgee]

I went to that Florida game. Excellent ushers in Gainesville.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I went to that Florida game. Excellent ushers in Gainesville.

HA!

[xu82]

I just checked the box score, and a few things surprised me. Trevon led with minutes at 36, followed by Remy at 29 then JP at 27. I didn't realize Trevon barely sat. And, best yet, we were 23/26 at the FT line. That's 88.5%! That could be huge the way games are being called and IF we can stay well above average.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I just checked the box score, and a few things surprised me. Trevon led with minutes at 36, followed by Remy at 29 then JP at 27. I didn't realize Trevon barely sat. And, best yet, we were 23/26 at the FT line. That's 88.5%! That could be huge the way games are being called and IF we can stay well above average.

Yes our FT% will be huge the way refs are calling games. Hope it keeps up. We are currently 6th in the country in FT%.

I turned to my dad during the game at one point and remarked on how it seemed like Trevon had barely sat. His endurance must be great.

[X-Fan]

I turned to my dad during the game at one point and remarked on how it seemed like Trevon had barely sat. His endurance must be great.

I had a similar observation. He might have played every minute in the 1st half.

One other thing that I don't remember anyone mentioning...Yet again, X "Balled Out" in the "Blackout" Uni's. As soon as I saw they were in black I was geeked. They only bring those out for big games, and the team almost always plays fantastic in them. Told my buddy after the game that I knew Michigan was in trouble as soon as I saw it. Freaking love those uniforms and the selective way they use them!