Exhibition game vs. Northwood 11/7

[redhawkmuskie]

Muskies take on Northwood this Saturday at the 'tas. Sadly, I will be unable to attend. Does anybody know if this game will be broadcasted either on television or streamed somewhere online? Any info will be helpful.

[GIMMFD]

Also can anybody tell me who the hell Northwood is?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Also can anybody tell me who the hell Northwood is?

Southwood's sister school.

[atljar]

Also can anybody tell me who the hell Northwood is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwood_University

[waggy]

Need get Bushwood on the exhibition schedule.

[bigdiggins]

Need get Bushwood on the exhibition schedule.

You want to play my fantasy football team, The Bushwood Gophers?

[waggy]

my fantasy football team, The Bushwood Gophers?


Cool.

[X-band '01]

It's only an exhibition, but St. Thomas Aquinas is up 21 on the Johnnies in Queens.

[redhawkmuskie]

so I take it that nobody has information regarding live broadcast/streaming availability?

[casualfan]

so I take it that nobody has information regarding live broadcast/streaming availability?

I doubt there is any. There hasn't been the last few years.

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me not to have one. I've watched 5 or 6 teams play exhibition games in the past week all on their team's website.

The no stream sucks on toast for out of town people like me.

[xubrew]

I assumed we were playing Northwood in Florida, which is a pretty good NAIA team coached by Rollie Massamino. As it turns out, Rollie is no longer coaching there, and we're playing a different Northwood team anyway. They're NCAA div2. That's all I know about them.

As others have said I'm pretty sure the game won't be streamed. They typically aren't. The schools that do stream exhibition games generally independently produce a lot of their own content anyway, so all they need to do is send the people from the athletic department that normally do the streaming out there for the exhibition games. I think Fox produces the majority of our games, and they just don't want to send a crew out to put a game on TV that almost no one would watch. If the game were to be streamed, I wonder who would own the rights to it. Saint John's had their game on ESPN 3, which is definitely not a Fox Affiliate.

[XUMIOH12]

We played the same Northwood last year in an exhibition game.

[MADXSTER]

Northwood is from the western/central Michigan area

[XUMIOH12]

Northwood is from the western/central Michigan area

It's in Midland, MI just northwest of Saginaw, and a little bit east of Central Michigan.

[XUMIOH12]

I'm surprised Xavier still hasn't provided some sort of stream for the exhibition games the last few years.

[casualfan]

I assumed we were playing Northwood in Florida, which is a pretty good NAIA team coached by Rollie Massamino. As it turns out, Rollie is no longer coaching there, and we're playing a different Northwood team anyway. They're NCAA div2. That's all I know about them.

As others have said I'm pretty sure the game won't be streamed. They typically aren't. The schools that do stream exhibition games generally independently produce a lot of their own content anyway, so all they need to do is send the people from the athletic department that normally do the streaming out there for the exhibition games. I think Fox produces the majority of our games, and they just don't want to send a crew out to put a game on TV that almost no one would watch. If the game were to be streamed, I wonder who would own the rights to it. Saint John's had their game on ESPN 3, which is definitely not a Fox Affiliate.

In a day and age where high schools are doing high quality streams of their events it would be very easy for Xavier to do this.

I know the volleyball games get streamed by xavier so they have the equipment.

[xubrew]

In a day and age where high schools are doing high quality streams of their events it would be very easy for Xavier to do this.

I know the volleyball games get streamed by xavier so they have the equipment.

Does Xavier have the rights, though?? I'm asking because I don't know. I know that conferences who don't independently produce or stream any of their games typically don't stream their exhibition games unless they are produced by the network. I don't know why. I just know what. If the game is broadcast or streamed, it is typically produced by the network. That's not universally true as both Duke and UC streamed their games independently, but it is GENERALLY true. SEC Network is producing and streaming the SEC games. Big Ten Network is producing and streaming Big Ten games. Those are all networks. The Atlantic Ten is streaming those games, but they often stream independently produced games. Same with the NEC, CUSA, and OVC. Those games are streamed on those conference websites, but they're also being independently produced.

The only Big East games that are being streamed are the two Saint John's games, and they're not being streamed by Fox. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing Fox has the rights to them, but doesn't want to produce them because they just feel it isn't worth it. That being said, I have no idea why Saint John's games were streamed, or why they ended up on ESPN3.

[casualfan]

Does Xavier have the rights, though?? I'm asking because I don't know. I know that conferences who don't independently produce or stream any of their games typically don't stream their exhibition games unless they are produced by the network. I don't know why. I just know what. If the game is broadcast or streamed, it is typically produced by the network. That's not universally true as both Duke and UC streamed their games independently, but it is GENERALLY true. SEC Network is producing and streaming the SEC games. Big Ten Network is producing and streaming Big Ten games. Those are all networks. The Atlantic Ten is streaming those games, but they often stream independently produced games. Same with the NEC, CUSA, and OVC. Those games are streamed on those conference websites, but they're also being independently produced.

The only Big East games that are being streamed are the two Saint John's games, and they're not being streamed by Fox. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing Fox has the rights to them, but doesn't want to produce them because they just feel it isn't worth it. That being said, I have no idea why Saint John's games were streamed, or why they ended up on ESPN3.

Villanova is streaming their game on the 8th through their own website.

Between that and espn showing the Johnnie's I think it's safe to assume that fox doesn't hold the rights.

[Masterofreality]

Also can anybody tell me who the hell Northwood is?

Northwood is a status condition of a well-known, well endowed male porn star.

[xubrew]

Villanova is streaming their game on the 8th through their own website.

Between that and espn showing the Johnnie's I think it's safe to assume that fox doesn't hold the rights.

Well, then I have no idea why we're not streaming it.

[Masterofreality]

Also can anybody tell me who the hell Northwood is?

Northwood is a status condition of a well known, well endowed male porn star.

[XUFan09]

You can do live YouTube videos. We just need an enterprising fan with a camera and we are good!

[xu82]

Northwood is a status condition of a well known, well endowed male porn star.

Who can help if you're ever lost in the woods, as he's always pointing to the North Star.

(maybe)

[Cheesehead]

Someone could Periscope it!

[GIMMFD]

Northwood is a status condition of a well known, well endowed male porn star.

+public reps because the man is holding me down, but I laughed out loud at that one.

[GoMuskies]

Basketball season starts tomorrow.

[muskiefan82]

Basketball season starts tomorrow.

I know, right? The offseason ends tomorrow. I would like to say that after this year, I would really appreciate being able to bask in the feeling of a National Championship during the offseason. It will make all the climate change, coaching change, and national leadership change talk during the offseason SO MUCH EASIER to deal with. So, not much to ask I think.

[Chalmers0]

Basketball season starts tomorrow.

I look forward to the end of all the off-season crazy talk and the start of the brief time we can over-analyze every players performance in one game against a very over-matched opponent.

[Muskeagle]

Just made some surprise arrangements: I'm in tomorrow (with Muskeagle Jr. and Newswire Jr.)!

[xu82]

Just made some surprise arrangements: I'm in tomorrow (with Muskeagle Jr. and Newswire Jr.)!

Bring your sneaks, you my get some surprise minutes for Northwood!

[bobbiemcgee]

You can do live YouTube videos. We just need an enterprising fan with a camera and we are good!

Kramer?

[coasterville95]

First media time out. Tie ballgame 9 all.

We are wearing the road blues this game for some reason.

[Muskie]

Cintas is about half full today.


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[Muskie]

Austin is sporting bronze tips if anyone cares


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[Muskie]

20-11 X under 12 timeout.


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[coasterville95]

Second media break. Things are better. We are up 20-11. We are playing more aggressive but we also racked up a shit ton of fouls.

[coasterville95]

Third break

X up 30-22
Both teams in double bonus.
Free throw shooting continued to be a problem.

[coasterville95]

And it's 40-31 with 3:25 left. First

[Muskie]

I like what I see out of Sumner.


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[Muskie]

Reynolds with 2 points 3 board and no fouls at half.


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[coasterville95]

52-38 halftime.

[mistabeecee41]

I like what I see out of Sumner.


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Just following on twitter, but it sounds like all of these off season PG debates have been settled.

[SemajParlor]

No Makinde yet?

[Muskie]

Makinde played a little bit.


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[xukeith]

Missed the game. Final score?
Who looked solid?

[Muskie]

59-44 just under 16:30


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[Muskie]

Macura-Austin-Reynolds-Blueitt-Abell


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[Muskie]

I can confirm that Coaster did not catch a skyline gift card parachute. He was out getting a beer.


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[coasterville95]

And it sure seemed like longer than 50 yards. Especially since it's all uphill. Both ways. In the snow. Barefooted.

I waited up top till a break in action per proper sports fan etiquette.

[Masterofreality]

I can confirm that Coaster did not catch a skyline gift card parachute. He was out getting a beer.


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What about Musketette Grad Daughter- or her husband? :-)

[Muskie]

What about Musketette Grad Daughter- or her husband? :-)

They aren't here that I see.


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[xukeith]

65-48 13:27 second half. So much Foul trouble.

[X-band '01]

Reynolds with 2 points 3 board and no fouls at half.


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Did they stop the game for Muskie's 10,000th post?

[X-band '01]

Someone else needs to rep Muskie since the Board is keeping me down.

[Masterofreality]

They aren't here that I see.


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They are, or were. Are you in the same seats this year?

[Masterofreality]

Did they stop the game for Muskie's 10,000th post?

He doesn't count. He runs the damn board! :lol:

[coasterville95]

And both in double bonus. Almost 10 left to play.

[coasterville95]

1790

For us at least 2 with 4 fouls. Same story. For Northwood.

[Muskie]

They are, or were. Are you in the same seats this year?

Yes sir


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[Masterofreality]

Yes sir


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Hmmmm. They messaged me with a pic from Dana's. Maybe they never left!! :-)

Ours are right behind yours in 101

[Muskie]

I bet they are at Danas


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[coasterville95]

Northwood fouls out 2 guys in like 10 seconds. Now 93-65

[Muskie]

Sumner with 17 points 1 assist. Just fouled out.


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[coasterville95]

Northwood playing 3 with 4 and we are playing 2 with 4. 4 Minutes left.

Update: sumner just fouled out.

[coasterville95]

Last break. 94-70

[Muskie]

Will we see the walk-ons?


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[paulxu]

Gates play at all?

[coasterville95]

Update. I lost the all for one raffle. I repeat I lost the raffle. Again.

[xu82]

Sumner with 17 points 1 assist. Just fouled out.


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Not what I expected. Did he play mostly at PG? Ton of points and only 1 assist?

[Muskie]

Not what I expected. Did he play mostly at PG? Ton of points and only 1 assist?

Tough to say. He definitely played some. They had Sumner, Davis, and Abell on the floor sometimes.


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[Muskie]

Tim Stainbrook checks in as Myles fouls out.


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[Muskie]

Larry Austin with 12 points and 1 assist


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[Muskie]

London has played long enough to get 3 fouls. But the refs are whistle happy


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[spursy]

London has played long enough to get 3 fouls. But the refs are whistle happy


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69 fouls, I'd say so. Made it difficult to watch.

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[kane79]

69 fouls, I'd say so. Made it difficult to watch.

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and made for some interesting line ups while resting players and protecting others in foul trouble: myles, farr, reynolds, blueitt, macurra at one point in first half. Abel, gates, farr, blueitt, macurra at one point in second half.

[SkyWalker]

69 fouls, I'd say so. Made it difficult to watch.

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and they changed the rules because college basketball was unwatchable. This was worse. 69 fouls was way over the top. This was not a physical game. Every touch/bump was called a foul. Just terrible to watch.

[X-Fan]

Someone could Periscope it!
Xavier Athletics Periscoped during the game a number of times, including: Intros, stretches of both halves, halftime & post game interview with Joe Sunderman (really good stuff), post game presser, and Coach Macks presser. Pretty decent stuff all in all.

Now to the game:
- How much are we to read into the starting lineup? Of note: X went smallish with Edmond starting over Larry, and Myles/Remy staring instead of Farr.
- Jalen and James had a pretty quiet game against a small team.
- Trevon, JP, Sumner, Myles, Larry, and Remy are looking good
- Little PT for Sean & London

I know, I know it was just an exhibition. Can't wait till next week!

[XUMIOH12]

Whistles, whistles, whistles, that's all I heard at the game. The refs were calling extremely tight, and made for a tough game to watch.

[XUMIOH12]

I wouldn't read too much in to the starting lineup. Like in most exhibition games, Mack played a ton of different lineup combos. Although most of them included just one of either Reynolds, Farr, or O'Mara.

[bleedXblue]

Some things really stood out to me today. In no particular order.

1. Gates playing ahead of London.....Makinde is the 10th or 11th guy off the bench. Not what I was expecting for a guy who practiced all last year.
2. Sumner looks a lot like Semaj, just a little more raw at this point and not quite as good a handle on the ball yet.
3. I'm not quite sure O'Mara is going to be any more than pedestrian at X. I sure hope he changes my mind.
4. Austin looks like he's much quicker and much more composed than last year. The PG spot is going to be a strength this year.

[xukeith]

Sean O'Mara. 0 points 0 rebounds and 8 minutes played.
Hope he improves and maybe it was a match up issue. We need a reliable frontcourt to rebound

[casualfan]

Does anyone know how Northwood is supposed to be this year?

[xu82]

Sean O'Mara. 0 points 0 rebounds and 8 minutes played.
Hope he improves and maybe it was a match up issue. We need a reliable frontcourt to rebound

I'm pretty confident Sean will be fine, and today was just a starting point. I liked what I saw from him last season. If our 2 PG's combined for 29 points and 2 assists, today was just the beginning. It will be different down the road.

[XUFan09]

It's an exhibition game. It's fun, but it's much more for the benefit of the players than for any analysis on our side. These guys are getting their sea legs, and Mack is testing things out.

[XMuskieFTW]

Please don't analyze this game. There were a googleplex fouls and none of the big men did much. Pretty sure that's not indicative of how anything will go this year.

[XUMIOH12]

They only thing I would take away from the lineup is that London is the last (scholarship) guy off the bench at this point. Mack gave Gates a lot more minutes, and he performed much better than London today......but its just an exhibition, so who knows.

[XUMIOH12]

I also think I will feel confident with Larry Austin handling the ball, initiating the offense, and playing defense. Still don't see him producing much offense in the half-court though.

[justinhub2003]

Does anyone know how Northwood is supposed to be this year?


they were just 15-14 and 14 last year and lost some of there better players to graduation.

Xu shouldn't have let them score 60 let alone 50 but they fought hard

[spursy]

It's hard to take away anything concrete from an exhibition but I am confident Larry has the best hair this program has ever seen.

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[muskienick]

Neither Northwood, Xavier, or the officials were in mid-season form today. The one takeaway I have from this game is that the Muskies will out-depth many of their opponents this year. JP, Remy, Trevon, Edmond, and Larry all showed signs of brilliance. Jalen was so-so. I agree with Shannon that Farr was the most effective front court presence through most of his game minutes. Kaiser Gates did not disappoint.

We must improve our free throw shooting and I believe we will shoot far better from the line as the season progresses just as we did last season.

Northwoods' little guard (#12, whose name escapes me), is an explosive player who dismantled our defense much like he did last year. Ho could play a lot of minutes for just about any D-1 program in the U.S.

With Chris and his staff pushing these talented players, the Muskies will be a very competitive squad by the time we get to the Conference schedule.

[XUMIOH12]

Neither Northwood, Xavier, or the officials were in mid-season form today. The one takeaway I have from this game is that the Muskies will out-depth many of their opponents this year. JP, Remy, Trevon, Edmond, and Larry all showed signs of brilliance. Jalen was so-so. I agree with Shannon that Farr was the most effective front court presence through most of his game minutes. Kaiser Gates did not disappoint.

We must improve our free throw shooting and I believe we will shoot far better from the line as the season progresses just as we did last season.

Northwoods' little guard (#12, whose name escapes me), is an explosive player who dismantled our defense much like he did last year. Ho could play a lot of minutes for just about any D-1 program in the U.S.

With Chris and his staff pushing these talented players, the Muskies will be a very competitive squad by the time we get to the Conference schedule.

Their PG #12 is Maurice Jones from Saginaw. He played 2 years at PG at USC, before going back to Northwood. He had a really good game against us last year too.

[xu82]

Their PG #12 is Maurice Jones from Saginaw. He played 2 years at PG at USC, before going back to Northwood. He had a really good game against us last year too.

Most people can't tell USC and Northwood apart. (If you include the people in China, Brazil, Uruguay, etc.)

[spursy]

Their PG #12 is Maurice Jones from Saginaw. He played 2 years at PG at USC, before going back to Northwood. He had a really good game against us last year too.
Good lord he is a small man, but he stood way over any other player on that team. I agree with the other poster that he could fit in with several D1 programs. He was very quick.

[xu82]

Was he drawing all the fouls? I worry about foul troubles against exhibition teams. (I've been paying attention for years!)

[XUMIOH12]

Was he drawing all the fouls? I worry about foul troubles against exhibition teams. (I've been paying attention for years!)

Uhhh, in this game everyone was drawing the fouls. They were calling the foul anytime someone was touched.

[X-man]

they were just 15-14 and 14 last year and lost some of there better players to graduation.

Xu shouldn't have let them score 60 let alone 50 but they fought hard

The paper said they returned four starters from last year. Are their better players all bench players?

[casualfan]

they were just 15-14 and 14 last year and lost some of there better players to graduation.

Xu shouldn't have let them score 60 let alone 50 but they fought hard

Thanks.

[XUFan09]

they were just 15-14 and 14 last year and lost some of there better players to graduation.

Xu shouldn't have let them score 60 let alone 50 but they fought hard

Eh, when refs are calling a ton of fouls, a team is going to score a lot more than they usually would.

[coasterville95]

Particularly when both teams are in double bonus about halfway through each half. Im actualy somewhat surprised the game got over as fast as it did.

[Muskie]

Particularly when both teams are in double bonus about halfway through each half. Im actualy somewhat surprised the game got over as fast as it did.

It was an oddly paced game that's for sure. I was little concerned with really no points from the post players, and relatively no foul trouble from Reynolds. But I have to keep reminding myself that it was an exhibition.

On to Miami.

[Muskeagle]

I think the referees have orders to "clean up the game" this year. They were certainly whistle happy and I know the NCAA has talked about making the game less rough. Furthermore, the moving screen (YAY!!!) is clearly a point of emphasis. I think they called 7 or 8 moving screens and ALL 3 of Makinde's fouls were of the moving screen variety. I've long argued that if you make the calls....and stick with it...eventually the players will wise up and start playing the game differently. Moreover, the fact that an offensive big man can just about truck a guy 10 inches shorter with impunity has LONG been a major complaint of mine. HOWEVER, I've seen this before where they say they will clean it up and exhibitions and the first two games of the year are abominably long with 60-70 whistles....and then the refs just go back to the old way of calling it. Here's hoping a shift in the style of play will happen....but history tells me, the calls will return to normal in a few games.

[throwbackmuskie]

Sumner is going to be a stud, very smooth and fluid.

[justinhub2003]

The paper said they returned four starters from last year. Are their better players all bench players?

Sorry should have noted; they lost there leading scorer (averaged 15ppg)

Still, XU was a bit sloppy and committed way more TO's than you should against a bad D2 team.

I almost wonder why they don't try to schedule Exhibition games against the better D2 teams. UC for example schedules Bellermine and they led the world 3 out of the last 5 years in Fg% and have D1 size.

I don't seem much advantage playing bad D2 teams when you could at least play the ones with more size or skill

[XUGRAD80]

Northwood and Bellermine play each other next Saturday, so that should somewhat settle that question.

[Cheesehead]

Some takeaways and some info:

Refs were ridiculous. It was downright unwatchable at times. Hopefully, this season is not called the same way but I think the refs were making a point and then things will return to some normalcy.

Sumner is quick and lenghty. He can get to basket at will.

Reynolds has dominated in practice (confirmed by my son) and he was double teamed all night. I am not worried about him as I think he plays to level of competition.

Mack plays guys based on practice so if Gates gets in before Makinde then this should tell you something. I hear there is some pouting in practice at times.

Freethrow shooting was not great but one game sample.

XU will have a many choices in lineups. A good problem to have. They are still figuring it out.

Bring on the Red Hawks!

[GoMuskies]

So based on the exhibition should I take Xavier at 220-1 to win it all?

[X-man]

Some takeaways and some info:

Refs were ridiculous. It was downright unwatchable at times. Hopefully, this season is not called the same way but I think the refs were making a point and then things will return to some normalcy.

Sumner is quick and lenghty. He can get to basket at will.

Reynolds has dominated in practice (confirmed by my son) and he was double teamed all night. I am not worried about him as I think he plays to level of competition.

Mack plays guys based on practice so if Gates gets in before Makinde then this should tell you something. I hear there is some pouting in practice at times.

Freethrow shooting was not great but one game sample.

XU will have a many choices in lineups. A good problem to have. They are still figuring it out.

Bring on the Red Hawks!

Gates was a pleasant surprise, and London seemed lost out there. I believe that London has a huge upside, but he better get it in gear if he expects to get real minutes.

[XUFan09]

Sorry should have noted; they lost there leading scorer (averaged 15ppg)

Still, XU was a bit sloppy and committed way more TO's than you should against a bad D2 team.

I almost wonder why they don't try to schedule Exhibition games against the better D2 teams. UC for example schedules Bellermine and they led the world 3 out of the last 5 years in Fg% and have D1 size.

I don't seem much advantage playing bad D2 teams when you could at least play the ones with more size or skill
X does sometimes schedule better D2 teams, including Bellarmine not too long ago. It varies year to year, just like it varies for UC. Also, this squad at least had a small, speedy lead guard who could have played D1. That's a good type of player to get experience against.

[XU 87]

X does sometimes schedule better D2 teams, including Bellarmine not too long ago. It varies year to year, just like it varies for UC. Also, this squad at least had a small, speedy lead guard who could have played D1. That's a good type of player to get experience against.

The small fast guard (Maurice Jones) started at USC for two years until he was declared academically ineligible. He then transferred to Iowa State, but he was ineligible there as well. He averaged 13 ppg his sophomore year at USC.

I think there was another player on the roster who transferred from Auburn.

[Milhouse]

Sorry should have noted; they lost there leading scorer (averaged 15ppg)

Still, XU was a bit sloppy and committed way more TO's than you should against a bad D2 team.

I almost wonder why they don't try to schedule Exhibition games against the better D2 teams. UC for example schedules Bellermine and they led the world 3 out of the last 5 years in Fg% and have D1 size.

I don't seem much advantage playing bad D2 teams when you could at least play the ones with more size or skill

I don't there's much point at all in putting much thought into an exhibition game, Who is going to take a smaller pay check when only half the building is full? No point in spending $50,000+ on an exhibition game.

We could go the old Mick route and schedule arkansas pine bluff (327) or southeastern louisiana (315). 40+ spots worse than ANYONE on X's schedule.

[Jehoya]

Sorry should have noted; they lost there leading scorer (averaged 15ppg)

Still, XU was a bit sloppy and committed way more TO's than you should against a bad D2 team.

I almost wonder why they don't try to schedule Exhibition games against the better D2 teams. UC for example schedules Bellermine and they led the world 3 out of the last 5 years in Fg% and have D1 size.

I don't seem much advantage playing bad D2 teams when you could at least play the ones with more size or skill


X did..X lost to the school Chapel in 2010 and then almost lost again in 2011

[XU 87]

I m old enough to remember when X lost to some Canadian travelling team (Marathon Oil?) in 1981 by about 15 points in an exhibition game. XU 50 got so mad he walked out.

[SemajParlor]

I was in the building for the Bellarmine game in 2010. Not fun.

[throwbackmuskie]

I remember X playing Athletes in Action for exhibition games.

[GoMuskies]

I remember X playing Athletes in Action for exhibition games.

Athletes in Action was legit, though. They typically won a few of those exhibition games every year. I was in Freedom Hall to see them beat Louisville one year.

[muskiefan82]

Some of those Marathon Oil teams were like current NBA D League teams.

[throwbackmuskie]

Mack played for AIA at one point, lots of former college players. Always fun and good games.

[birdman71]

I remember losing to Hanover at Schmidt Fieldhouse.......early '80s?

[XUGRAD80]

Back then, (mid70's) X was on a par with schools like Northern Kentucky, Hanover, St. Joesph (Ind.), and the like. Even though they played Notre Dame, Marquettte, etc., they were not expected to win games against them. This year they played a scrimmage against a Big 10 school and played a game against a small school with some D-1 talent. They won both, as was expected.

[nuts4xu]

During my time as a student manager, we played a team from Windsor Canada. I walked into their locker room at half time with towels, ice, and water...typical stuff. Head coach was talking, so I quietly did what I had to do, and not bother the team.

The assistant coach stops me when I was walking out the door, and asked me if I wanted a "soda". He then opens his cooler, and proceeds to offer me an ice cold Molson. I looked up and realized most all of the Windsor players had an open beer in their hands. They were pounding beers, listening to the coach, and were already down by 20 points!

Speaking of drinking at a game, I also recall Mo Brantley playing for one of those travelling club teams against Xavier (many moons ago).

[GoMuskies]

Well????

[coasterville95]

220-1, Venetian only offered me 200-1 in September.