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xubrew
11-02-2015, 01:32 PM
Okay, I know. Preseason polls are meaningless. Everyone technically starts out at zero, and by the end of the year half of these teams won't be in the rankings at all, and about a third of these teams, including at least one in the top ten, will miss the NCAA Tournament entirely. It happens every year, and the chances of this year being any different are basically zero.

You know what else is pointless?? Pointing out that preseason polls are meaningless. We all know that. It's a starting point that at least gives us a frame of reference at this point in the year. Although the poll is meaningless, it's still more practical than claiming Grambling and North Carolina are the same right now. Technically they are, but practically they are not.

This may be a curtain call for North Carolina. I think they're going to get absolutely buried by the NCAA this upcoming summer. Even though they're #1, and likely are the best team, I think UNC made a mistake. They knew about the problems this summer. I think self imposing a ban at a time that would have allowed the players to transfer (most likely without penalty) could have gotten them back to normal faster, and in the long run softened the NCAA's blow a little bit. For those that aren't aware and are wondering why the NCAA hasn't acted. The reason is because as UNC was preparing their response to the NCAA's allegations, they actually uncovered more violations. They reported them to the NCAA, which caused the NCAA to amend the violations, and the process started over. So, it's even worse now than it was before, but it also started the process over which will allow them to complete this season prior to the penalties being levied. Is it smart to do that?? I personally do not think so. But, that's what they chose to do. So, enjoy this season because it may be the last postseason they see for a while in hoops, football, women's hoops, soccer, and a variety of other sports....

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll

GoMuskies
11-02-2015, 01:36 PM
I don't think UNC's basketball program will get hit hard. Football and women's hoops are going to get it much worse. I think the men's basketball program was relatively innocent, frankly.

The problems at UNC were much, much worse than a simple sports scandal.

GoMuskies
11-02-2015, 01:38 PM
As for Xavier, up to 7 regular season games against preseason top 25 opponents. Pretty nice.

casualfan
11-02-2015, 01:42 PM
As for Xavier, up to 7 regular season games against preseason top 25 opponents. Pretty nice.

I know we've got Butler twice, Nova twice and Michigan. Who am i missing?

GoMuskies
11-02-2015, 01:48 PM
Notre Dame and Wichita State potentially.

DC Muskie
11-02-2015, 02:58 PM
I love the carryover of our March runs into the preaseason polls! Here's to another 5th place finish in the BE but another Sweet 16!

casualfan
11-02-2015, 03:21 PM
Notre Dame and Wichita State potentially.

Thanks.

xubrew
11-02-2015, 03:54 PM
I think Maryland is good, but I fail to see why anyone would think them to be so good that only two teams were better. I'm not as big on Oklahoma either. I think they're good, but not quite top ten good.

So, if history is any indicator of the present, there is at least one team out there that didn't receive a vote in either poll that will be ranked before Christmas. Last year Butler was that team, and managed to get into the rankings before the end of Thanksgiving weekend.

I'm betting that team this year will not be Boston College. I'm not out on a limb with that one. But, the more I look at and think about this Auburn team, the better I think they are. They could end up being a real surprise. And, it wouldn't be the first time Bruce Pearl coached an SEC team that started off without a single vote in either poll and was picked to finish toward the bottom of the conference, but ended up in the top 25...or in the case of his first year at Tennessee, the top ten.

MADXSTER
11-02-2015, 05:28 PM
Is the Big 10 that strong to have 6 teams in the top 25. I don't think any conference is that strong.

xu82
11-02-2015, 06:09 PM
These early polls are nonsense..... unless I really like what they say.

bobbiemcgee
11-02-2015, 06:17 PM
I'm not worried. Jalen sez we will be starring at the end:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOu6bCDiZm4

XUMIOH12
11-02-2015, 07:41 PM
I love the carryover of our March runs into the preaseason polls! Here's to another 5th place finish in the BE but another Sweet 16!

Haha you got that right. For some reason nothing carries over for Xavier. But im ok with that.

XUMIOH12
11-02-2015, 07:42 PM
Pre-season poll. Nothing to see here. Carry on.

xubrew
11-02-2015, 08:04 PM
Thank you for clarifying that.

DC Muskie
11-02-2015, 09:12 PM
It would be nice to begin and end the season ranked. Heck maybe string a couple years like that together.

XUMIOH12
11-02-2015, 09:35 PM
It looks like we have only been pre season top 25 once in the past 12 years. Ranked 14th before the 2011-12 season.

xubrew
11-02-2015, 11:26 PM
It would be nice to begin and end the season ranked. Heck maybe string a couple years like that together.

We were #22 in the final poll last year.

DC Muskie
11-03-2015, 05:49 AM
We were #22 in the final poll last year.

And yet not ranked this year.

xavierj
11-03-2015, 07:29 AM
It looks like we have only been pre season top 25 once in the past 12 years. Ranked 14th before the 2011-12 season.

And yet they have made the sweet 16 in 6 of those years. That's pretty crazy. Yeah preseason polls = stupid.

xubrew
11-03-2015, 10:33 AM
And yet they have made the sweet 16 in 6 of those years. That's pretty crazy. Yeah preseason polls = stupid.

They're stupid if you're looking at them as if they're supposed to predict the future. They're not stupid at all if you're looking for a general idea of how good the teams are at the beginning of the year. That's all it is. A general frame of reference for the start of the season. The poll doesn't matter, and that's actually one of the things I like about it.

bleedXblue
11-03-2015, 10:36 AM
Just give it 2-3 weeks and the poll(s) will look a lot different. Happens almost every year.......