View Full Version : The 2015-2016 Season Thread!!
xubrew
01-04-2016, 11:53 AM
Kansas v Oklahoma tonight. Both teams want to win the Big Twelve, and both are in contention for a #1 seed. Regardless of who wins, both could still be placed in Oklahoma City for the first/second round, and with regional sites in both Louisville and Chicago both could end up as #1 seeds in rather ideal locations. It's also one of potentially three meetings between the two before Selection Sunday. So, it's a big game in some senses, but in another sense the loser doesn't really lose anything.
Epic game. Triple O, fantastic atmosphere, controversy, chokes and heroics. Did not record. I'm going to watch it again when I can find it.
xudash
01-05-2016, 12:04 PM
Watched it as well.
Instant classic.
The OU kid who scores 46 points is the one who makes the critical inbounds pass error to set-up the Jayhawks victory, but what a game he played.
They'll both move on, but it will be interesting to see how the Sooners perform in their next couple games.
xubrew
01-05-2016, 12:09 PM
I think that's the best basketball game I've seen in several years. I actually think I'm more impressed with Oklahoma than Kansas. They were the road team, and after 54 minutes they had the lead. #1 seeds almost never lose at home. Even other #1 seeds don't usually beat #1 seeds as the road team. In a given year the four #1 seeds may have lost a combined total of two or three home games. To have a lead at Kansas after 54 minutes is pretty damn good. It's harder to beat a #1 seed in a true road game than it is to beat them on a neutral floor at any juncture of the NCAA Tournament. It's actually a tougher environment than the Final Four or National Championship game, and Oklahoma damn near did it.
Oh yeah, Grambling beat Alabama State 84-81!! Grambling is 2-0 in SWAC play for the first time since 1994!! Most of the current players probably weren't born yet!! WHAT A GAME!!!
Masterofreality
01-05-2016, 12:38 PM
Besides how good the game was, and it was epic, Buddy Hield was unvelieveable. I received Tweets on my timeline from Remy Abell and Other X players about Hield during the game. When a guy on another team impresses high level players on other teams, you know it was special.
I actually thought that the ref should have stepped in and made the Kansas defender move back from Hield on the inbounds steal play. it might have even been a violation with the Kansas guy stepping on the sideline he was so close, but I guess that won't happen in Phog Allen Fieldhouse.
MADXSTER
01-05-2016, 04:54 PM
Besides how good the game was, and it was epic, Buddy Hield was unvelieveable. I received Tweets on my timeline from Remy Abell and Other X players about Hield during the game. When a guy on another team impresses high level players on other teams, you know it was special.
I actually thought that the ref should have stepped in and made the Kansas defender move back from Hield on the inbounds steal play. it might have even been a violation with the Kansas guy stepping on the sideline he was so close, but I guess that won't happen in Phog Allen Fieldhouse.
That has happened against xavier several times this year. Butler had feet on and over the line. Villanova had a players arms reaching way over the line. Nothing was called both games. Just figure the refs are letting that one go this year.
That has happened against xavier several times this year. Butler had feet on and over the line. Villanova had a players arms reaching way over the line. Nothing was called both games. Just figure the refs are letting that one go this year.
If only Jalen could be so lucky!
D-West & PO-Z
01-06-2016, 09:06 PM
SLU beat GW. SLU is horrendous.
Masterofreality
01-06-2016, 11:41 PM
SLU beat GW. SLU is horrendous.
The A10 is horrendous.
xubrew
01-07-2016, 09:39 AM
GW is a clear top 25 caliber team at home, but a sub-CBI team on the road.
I think I have the solution!
They just need to start taking their arena with them when they travel! It may be too large to fit in the overhead compartments of a plane, but it's small enough to where they could put it on the back of a flat bed truck and just take it with them!
GoMuskies
01-07-2016, 09:44 AM
GW is a clear top 25 caliber team at home, but a sub-CBI team on the road.
I've seen some Xavier teams like that over the years. This year's team is showing signs now of a huge road/home differential, too. It's amazing the home/road difference in college basketball.
xubrew
01-07-2016, 10:06 AM
I've seen some Xavier teams like that over the years. This year's team is showing signs now of a huge road/home differential, too. It's amazing the home/road difference in college basketball.
It really is. I don't think most people realize just how big the difference is. People get caught up in things like top 50 wins, and they sometimes wonder why a team with more top 50 wins got a poorer seed, or was left out altogether, than teams who had fewer top 50 wins. Well, a lot of top 50 teams still have losing records on the road. If you beat a top fifty team at home that has a losing record on the road, then it's not that good of a win. I've said this for years, but I think the committee is far more impressed with road wins against NIT teams than home wins against most NCAA tournament teams.
Last year, Xavier won just five true road games. One of those was against Mizzou who was absolutely pitiful, and another was against Marquette, who was a lot better than Mizzou but was still pitiful. This year, we already have six wins away from home, and three true road wins. That's pretty damn good considering it's early January. As pitiful as Marquette was last year, they still had a winning record at home, so any time you win a true road game you're helping your NCAA seeding and chances. I know we had to sweat out the Johnnies last night, but it's still a true road win. I'll take it.
xubrew
01-08-2016, 08:58 PM
Valpo is really good. This was their toughest remaining game and they won it easily. I think they'll run the table and be in a position to get an at-large without needing the automatic bid.
xubrew
01-09-2016, 02:34 PM
Chattanooga could have really done without that. They got clobbered at Furman.
xubrew
01-09-2016, 03:02 PM
Virginia is down 35-24 at the half. But, we had another classic example of Gregory's piss poor bench coaching just before the half. A friend of mine sums it up pretty well....
Georgia Tech scores with 6 seconds left. The clock is running and Virginia with 4 seconds is just getting the ball to throw it in and . .Gregory calls a time out????? Ok, ok, he gets his define set. Virginia throws it in and they are in the backcourt looking like a desperation shot is likely and . . . Gregory instructs his player to foul as they have a foul to give???????
Virginia gets it at half court with 2 seconds, throws it into Gill who makes a spin move and makes an easy lay up at the buzzer. I truly have never seen such bad clock management at the end of the first half.
Okay, so I think Gregory should now be a verb. It means stupid bench coaching. When you have an athletic team and are going up against a slower more fundamentally focused team, and instead of trying to speed the game up you actually attempt to slow it down, that shall now be known as Gregorying. Kind of like how Cluessing is when a team has a twenty point lead in the second half against a crap opponent, but still doesn't win. Gregorying is just being all around stupid.
I am now fully expecting Virginia to come back and win this game.
X-band '01
01-09-2016, 03:29 PM
Gregorying can also have a positive effect in that it forces another team to have 6 guys on the floor (i.e. Saint Joe's, GW).
X Factor
01-09-2016, 04:14 PM
LaSalle and their #277 RPI takes down Dayton for their first A10 win. Ouch.
xubrew
01-09-2016, 04:15 PM
LaSalle and their #277 RPI takes down Dayton for their first A10 win. Ouch.
Dayton, this is why you can't have nice things!!
X-band '01
01-09-2016, 04:16 PM
The Cheesesteaks strike again!
Masterofreality
01-09-2016, 04:18 PM
LaSalle and their #277 RPI takes down Dayton for their first A10 win. Ouch.
Ah, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....HA!!!
The exhaust fumes in Tom Gola's Garage claim another victim!! LaSalle moved all the way up to 232 in RPI after that.
X-band '01
01-09-2016, 04:23 PM
And now the shame bells ring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_zrJVu6Mk
And no Game of Thrones fans, the NSFW part is not included.
xubrew
01-09-2016, 04:34 PM
Baylor hasn't won on the road yet this year, and for that matter really hasn't come close to winning. Yet, they just went ahead of Iowa State. I'm more than a little stunned.
A lot of close games right now, although none are super high stakes. Wazzu and Washington are knotted up late in teh second half, Vandy and South Carolina are close as well. Northeastern and W&M just tipped off, which is interesting because those are probably the two best teams in the Colonial.
Just another college hoops Saturday.
xudash
01-09-2016, 05:10 PM
LaSalle and their #277 RPI takes down Dayton for their first A10 win. Ouch.
UD - what a pathetic joke.
Who are their idiot fans blaming this disaster on?
X-band '01
01-09-2016, 05:12 PM
UD - what a pathetic joke.
Who are their idiot fans blaming this disaster on?
The Cheesesteaks strike again!
Like I said earlier, it's WHAT they're blaming the disaster on, not WHOM.
Masterofreality
01-09-2016, 05:26 PM
Like I said earlier, it's WHAT they're blaming the disaster on, not WHOM.
Jetlag to Philly from the dump.
D-West & PO-Z
01-09-2016, 07:57 PM
Bad cheesesteaks
paulxu
01-09-2016, 10:08 PM
Nope. This year's excuse is that the arena is too small. Seriously, they said that.
Masterofreality
01-10-2016, 12:27 AM
Nope. This year's excuse is that the arena is too small. Seriously, they said that.
It's a freaking garage. Calling that POS an "arena" is an insult to architecture.
By the way, don't arenas by definition have to have seats on all sides of the playing surface? There are 2 blank walls where Tom Gola parked his cars.
From Websters:
a·re·na
əˈrēnə/
noun
a level area surrounded by seats for spectators, in which sports, entertainments, and other public events are held.
synonyms: stadium; More
xubrew
01-11-2016, 12:14 PM
UNLV has fired Dave Rice. That in and of itself isn't too outrageous, but I'll never understand what firing a coach in the middle of the season does that waiting until the end of the year does not do. You appoint an interim that you know you have no interest in keeping, which does nothing to pull a season out of the crapper.
GoMuskies
01-11-2016, 12:18 PM
Maybe they wanted to be first in line to get Lionel Hollins.
That was kind of a joke...but after checking out Wikipedia it appears that Hollins went to high school in Las Vegas. So...who knows?
X-band '01
01-12-2016, 07:36 AM
Howard-Delaware State postponed for - wait for it:
a clock malfunction (http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/31273e30b561449eb5ed0ac71432f428/BKC--Howard-Delaware-St)
Insert your favorite Butler punchline here.
xubrew
01-12-2016, 11:33 AM
There is nothing about that that isn't totally insane.
xubrew
01-12-2016, 11:34 AM
I think it was the Summit League Tournament, but I forget the year. A game was delayed for over thirty minutes because they didn't have a ball. Or, something like that.
I also forget the year, and the exact teams, but I think it was East Tennessee State and someone. The two teams got out on the floor, warmed up, the crowd was there, the cheerleaders were there. But, there were no referees. Each school thought the other one was in charge of it. The game was cancelled. To date, that's the craziest thing I've heard of.
xubrew
01-12-2016, 10:52 PM
We are better than Maryland in case you were wondering.
D-West & PO-Z
01-12-2016, 10:54 PM
We are better than Maryland in case you were wondering.
Beilein apparently said SMU was the best team they have faced.
GoMuskies
01-12-2016, 10:56 PM
Beilein apparently said SMU was the best team they have faced.
SMU beat them by about 50.
xubrew
01-12-2016, 10:57 PM
SMU's beat teams have always been ineligible.
D-West & PO-Z
01-12-2016, 10:59 PM
Michigan wins!!!
xubrew
01-14-2016, 01:12 PM
USC, who we absolutely curb stomped, gave UCLA just their second home loss yesterday.
Masterofreality
01-14-2016, 02:28 PM
Beilein apparently said SMU was the best team they have faced.
Beilein is still pissed that we beat his ass when he coached Richmond.
nuts4xu
01-14-2016, 03:06 PM
Beilein apparently said SMU was the best team they have faced.
Do people really believe SMU is that good? The average RPI of the teams they have played is 149. They have only played 2 teams with an RPI better than 50, and they've played 9 of their 16 games against teams with sub 100 RPI's.
They have like 7 scholarship players, and most of them are playing huge minutes. In spite of this, it is remarkable they are still undefeated. I just don't think they have really faced anyone very good -- especially on the road (they played Michigan and Colorado at home, which were the 2 schools with RPI's in the 30's).
It is a moot point, since they won't be playing in the NCAA tourney but some people are talking about this team like they are destined to go undefeated.
xubrew
01-14-2016, 04:00 PM
Do people really believe SMU is that good? The average RPI of the teams they have played is 149. They have only played 2 teams with an RPI better than 50, and they've played 9 of their 16 games against teams with sub 100 RPI's.
They have like 7 scholarship players, and most of them are playing huge minutes. In spite of this, it is remarkable they are still undefeated. I just don't think they have really faced anyone very good -- especially on the road (they played Michigan and Colorado at home, which were the 2 schools with RPI's in the 30's).
It is a moot point, since they won't be playing in the NCAA tourney but some people are talking about this team like they are destined to go undefeated.
Well, there you go.....
GoMuskies
01-15-2016, 11:22 PM
Monmouth with the huge 110-102 win at Iona tonight. Huge road win for them. Especially after that idiot Cluess talked shit about the Monmouth bench's antics publicly.
Masterofreality
01-16-2016, 06:42 AM
Monmouth with the huge 110-102 win at Iona tonight. Huge road win for them. Especially after that idiot Cluess talked shit about the Monmouth bench's antics publicly.
We all know that Brew analyzes this stuff like Einstein. Brew does Monmouth have a really good shot at an at-large? They're 23 RPI now, but have the 5th OOC schedule and the 6th OOC RPI. We've seen the Committee screw small teams like this before- ala Southern. Illinois a few years ago.
X-band '01
01-16-2016, 06:52 AM
Did you guys see the postgame where an Iona player slapped a Monmouth player in the face? Reflection sessions are imminent for Iona.
X-band '01
01-16-2016, 07:27 AM
We all know that Brew analyzes this stuff like Einstein. Brew does Monmouth have a really good shot at an at-large? They're 23 RPI now, but have the 5th OOC schedule and the 6th OOC RPI. We've seen the Committee screw small teams like this before- ala Southern. Illinois a few years ago.
Knowing Brew, he'll argue that Valpo should be ranked and seeded ahead of Monmouth.
MADXSTER
01-16-2016, 09:36 AM
Monmouth to this point could and should get an at large bid.
xubrew
01-16-2016, 10:20 AM
I think Monmouth and Valpo will both end up being able to get at-larges if they need them. Valpo's paper may not be quite as good, but I think their team is better than Monmouth. UT Arlington and Little Rock may be in the discussion as well.
XUFan09
01-16-2016, 10:51 AM
We all know that Brew analyzes this stuff like Einstein. Brew does Monmouth have a really good shot at an at-large? They're 23 RPI now, but have the 5th OOC schedule and the 6th OOC RPI. We've seen the Committee screw small teams like this before- ala Southern. Illinois a few years ago.
That was over 10 years ago, really. The Selection Committee has improved in this regard since then when it comes to the little schools that surprise.
Masterofreality
01-16-2016, 11:12 AM
I think Monmouth and Valpo will both end up being able to get at-larges if they need them. Valpo's paper may not be quite as good, but I think their team is better than Monmouth. UT Arlington and Little Rock may be in the discussion as well.
The fact that the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC and the A10 are so pedestrian this year really helps their cause. In all honesty, Juan Bid is knocking loudly at the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC door, opening up all kinds of other opportunities.
bobbiemcgee
01-16-2016, 11:12 AM
Monmouth total enrollment= 6570. X 6325 Monmouth undergrad 4634 X 4633.
Masterofreality
01-16-2016, 11:15 AM
Monmouth total enrollment= 6570. X 6325 Monmouth undergrad 4634 X 4633.
Interesting, but just more verification that Xavier has always "Played MUCH bigger" than our true size. Alums have made that happen, but about that endowment......
bobbiemcgee
01-16-2016, 11:27 AM
We'd be Top 20 on this list:
http://highschoolguide.org/624/top-100-largest-high-schools-in-america/
xubrew
01-16-2016, 01:44 PM
Win or lose, Cincinnati is making a bad habit of playing shitty basketball against non tournament teams. It's kind of hard to argue that you belong in the tournament if you lose repeatedly to teams that clearly do not belong. UC seems to be in the habit of doing just that.
X-band '01
01-16-2016, 02:07 PM
Either they'll have a thrilling multi-OT win or they'll be on track for the NIT at this rate.
xubrew
01-16-2016, 02:17 PM
I'd like to state that I think winning at places like Oakland and Iona, on campus in those compact intense environments, is more difficult than winning at Temple. Iona and Oakland are probably better than Temple.
X-band '01
01-16-2016, 02:31 PM
At least we know Temple is better than South Florida. Right Mick?
Masterofreality
01-16-2016, 03:15 PM
Can't wait to see what shoe leather YTG is eating this afternoon when we see the quotes.
SucKS is 84 RPI. The AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC is dominating the 80's RPI group. Great for NIT bids.
xubrew
01-16-2016, 03:15 PM
We all know that Brew analyzes this stuff like Einstein. Brew does Monmouth have a really good shot at an at-large? They're 23 RPI now, but have the 5th OOC schedule and the 6th OOC RPI. We've seen the Committee screw small teams like this before- ala Southern. Illinois a few years ago.
Getting back to this, it would have probably been better for Xavier to play Monmouth instead of Dayton in the final. Monmouth is probably a better team, but at the end of the day their paper will be really good because they'll roll up a huge winning percentage if they dominate the MAAC, which they probably will.
But, having said that, beating Dayton and losing to Xavier probably doesn't help Monmouth as much as losing to Dayton and beating USC. The fact that it was the third place game doesn't matter to the committee. To them, it's just a neutral floor game, and beating USC may prove to be more helpful than beating Dayton.
xubrew
01-16-2016, 03:50 PM
Clemson is having one hell of a January!!
Xville
01-16-2016, 03:51 PM
Clemson about to beat miami....maybe dakich was actually right?
xubrew
01-16-2016, 04:23 PM
I don't know what Dakich said, but if he said it then he was probably wrong.
xubrew
01-16-2016, 04:24 PM
They were really sluggish throughout much of December, but at present and on the court VCU looks like the best team in the A10.
Masterofreality
01-16-2016, 04:45 PM
They were really sluggish throughout much of December, but at present and on the court VCU looks like the best team in the A10.
Of course, the A10 sucks rocks this year. So no props.
XUFan09
01-16-2016, 04:47 PM
Clemson about to beat miami....maybe dakich was actually right?
Lol still no.
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GoMuskies
01-16-2016, 06:12 PM
Kentucky is shitty.
ballyhoohoo
01-16-2016, 06:17 PM
Kentucky is shitty.
I wish we had them on the schedule
xudash
01-16-2016, 06:21 PM
Of course, the A10 sucks rocks this year. So no props.
You just have to believe that VD fans think they're something special as they walk through that conference - that trending 2-bid conference - this year. The difference between the BE and the A10 is pronounced, to be polite about it.
xubrew
01-16-2016, 06:22 PM
Kentucky is shitty.
Kentucky will get into the tournament as a #8 or #9 seed. They will then advance to the Final Four. They will do this simply because they want to annoy me.
Masterofreality
01-16-2016, 06:22 PM
Kentucky is shitty.
Auburn pulled their Xavier game out on them today.
xubrew
01-16-2016, 06:25 PM
I wish we had them on the schedule
I'd love an OOC top ten match up. You don't get many of those. We're in a situation to where we could be part of a huge showcase game at a point in the season where there are very few huge games.
Would that be bad form to post that on basketball travelers??
"Looking for top ten opponent to stage a huge showcase OOC game between two top ten teams."
GoMuskies
01-16-2016, 06:49 PM
I'd love an OOC top ten match up. You don't get many of those. We're in a situation to where we could be part of a huge showcase game at a point in the season where there are very few huge games.
Would that be bad form to post that on basketball travelers??
"Looking for top ten opponent to stage a huge showcase OOC game between two top ten teams."
What would a game with Kentucky have to do with a top ten match up this year?
XU 23
01-16-2016, 06:59 PM
Kentucky is shitty.
So is Duke
xubrew
01-16-2016, 07:07 PM
What would a game with Kentucky have to do with a top ten match up this year?
This year, none.
He mentioned a match up he'd like to see. I replied with the kind of match up I'd like to see.
xubrew
01-16-2016, 07:48 PM
I think Monmouth and Valpo will both end up being able to get at-larges if they need them. Valpo's paper may not be quite as good, but I think their team is better than Monmouth. UT Arlington and Little Rock may be in the discussion as well.
Teams sometimes shoot themselves in the foot.
UT Arlington is in real danger of shooting themselves in the FACE. They trail at South Alabama in overtime.
X-band '01
01-17-2016, 10:23 PM
Oregon State is about to finish a major choke job at Utah. But the major talking point about this game will be about a Beaver player intentionally tripping a ref after a missed call. It is one of the dumbest and most hilarious plays you'll ever see.
Oregon State is about to finish a major choke job at Utah. But the major talking point about this game will be about a Beaver player intentionally tripping a ref after a missed call. It is one of the dumbest and most hilarious plays you'll ever see.
Oh my! I DO look forward to seeing THAT!
X Factor
01-17-2016, 10:58 PM
Oregon State is about to finish a major choke job at Utah. But the major talking point about this game will be about a Beaver player intentionally tripping a ref after a missed call. It is one of the dumbest and most hilarious plays you'll ever see.
That was crazy. I have never seen something like that before. They called a flagrant 2 on the kid and he was ejected.
Kid doesn't deserve to play for awhile.
D-West & PO-Z
01-17-2016, 11:00 PM
UVA lost again today.
Where do I get to see this?
LA Muskie
01-17-2016, 11:05 PM
Oregon State player ejected after intentionally tripping a referee (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/1/17/10784430/oregon-state-player-ejected-after-intentionally-tripping-a-referee)
D-West & PO-Z
01-17-2016, 11:18 PM
Oregon State player ejected after intentionally tripping a referee (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/1/17/10784430/oregon-state-player-ejected-after-intentionally-tripping-a-referee)
Wow, idiot
Oregon State player ejected after intentionally tripping a referee (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/1/17/10784430/oregon-state-player-ejected-after-intentionally-tripping-a-referee)
Thanks, public reps since....the mighty Oz will not allow.
xubrew
01-18-2016, 05:53 PM
Oregon State is about to finish a major choke job at Utah. But the major talking point about this game will be about a Beaver player intentionally tripping a ref after a missed call. It is one of the dumbest and most hilarious plays you'll ever see.
Couldn't have said it better.
I had watched the whole game, but was in the other room when this happened. I miss everything!!
X Factor
01-18-2016, 05:59 PM
Suspended at least 4 games by Oregon St.
X Factor
01-18-2016, 09:05 PM
Duke loses their 3rd game in a row, all to unranked teams. Two of the losses were at home.
Will they finally drop out of the Top 25?
Xville
01-18-2016, 09:54 PM
Win both our games this week and Xavier may be #3 or even #2 next week.
Oklahoma with two tough away games at Iowa state and Baylor
Villanova at Seton hall
Kansas at Oklahoma state
Ku and Nova going to be pretty heavy favorites even on the road but you never know on the road in conference.
Blue Blobs Bro
01-18-2016, 10:46 PM
This Iowa state Oklahoma game is insane
X-band '01
01-18-2016, 11:10 PM
Oklahoma State is way down this year. I just do not see Kansas losing a game like that. Oklahoma will win at Baylor just for spite.
GoMuskies
01-18-2016, 11:19 PM
Kentucky and Duke both suck, and Xavier is 16-1. Greatest. Season. Ever.
muskiefan82
01-19-2016, 03:23 PM
According to the latest bracketology, if the season ended now, EVERY SINGLE TEAM from the ADVOCARE tournament would be in. That is sick.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
X-band '01
01-19-2016, 03:39 PM
It's up to Alabama to see if the Orlando teams make it a clean sweep this year.
Xville
01-19-2016, 08:39 PM
Oklahoma State is way down this year. I just do not see Kansas losing a game like that. Oklahoma will win at Baylor just for spite.
You were saying? So hard to win on the road in conference especially when a top 10 hunted team.
xubrew
01-19-2016, 08:55 PM
Oklahoma State is going to storm the court.
It's hard to win on the road no matter who you are. There are teams that end up as protected seeds who only win half their road games.
X-band '01
01-19-2016, 09:33 PM
Here's an eye opener that Brew will appreciate - Northern Kentucky wins 90-73 at Oakland. Yes folks, NKU won at the Blacktop.
xubrew
01-19-2016, 09:48 PM
That's actually tons more surprising than Okie State taking down Kansas
Xville
01-20-2016, 10:24 AM
The last seven games of the regular season make me anxious
@Creighton
@Butler
Providence
@Georgetown
Villnova
@Seton Hall
Creighton
xubrew
01-23-2016, 01:31 PM
Oklahoma is good at basketball.
To put this into perspective, last year Kentucky won just one true road game against a protected seed. I don't think winning at Louisville last year is harder than winning at Baylor this year. People who say that there is no clear cut #1 probably don't understand that in college basketball it's harder to win on the road against a protected seed than it is to win just about any NCAA Tournament game. There is a clear cut #1, and it's Oklahoma despite the two losses. They almost assuredly win those on a neutral floor. Yeah, Kentucky was unbeaten last year, but Kentucky did not have to play any high caliber road games against protected seeds (with the exception of Louisville, who was barely a protected seed), much less multiple games like that.
xubrew
01-23-2016, 04:56 PM
It's not that Gonzaga shouldn't be ranked. It's that they shouldn't be in the tournament without the automatic bid. I'm not a good enough wordsmith to properly articulate just how shitty Pacific is. Yet, they're right with the Zags at half time. Gonzaga has just looked terrible.
Louisville shouldn't be ranked either.
X-band '01
01-23-2016, 05:01 PM
The last seven games of the regular season make me anxious
@Creighton
@Butler
Providence
@Georgetown
Villnova
@Seton Hall
Creighton
It just means that Xavier finishes the Big East layup line two weeks from now with the St. John's game.
Next Tuesday is a fantastic opportunity for Xavier to assert itself as the Big East #2 if they can finally break the hex in Providence.
xubrew
01-23-2016, 05:24 PM
The commentator for the Louisville v Georgia Tech game just said the ACC reminded him of old Big East.
Gee, what an insight!!
Syracuse, Pitt, Notre Dame, Miami, VA Tech, and BC. Yeah, that does bare a strong resemblance.
GoMuskies
01-23-2016, 05:27 PM
Syracuse, Pitt, Notre Dame, Miami, VA Tech, and BC. Yeah, that does bare a strong resemblance.
And umm.....Louisville
In football, I've always thought Louisville, Syracuse, Pitt, Miami, VaTech and BC should be in one division, and NC, Duke, NC State, Wake, FSU, UVA and Clemson should be in the other. They could call one division the Big East and the other the ACC.
xubrew
01-23-2016, 05:29 PM
What's funny is thta I couldn't think of who I was missing.
xubrew
01-23-2016, 05:31 PM
So, I think the team that's improved the most between November and now is Towson. They were terrible when the season started, and are actually pretty good now.
American X
01-23-2016, 05:49 PM
Towson
Rec League Champion!
http://binaryapi.ap.org/907487acef6040ed929e8bf6d1bc6e94/460x.jpg
xubrew
01-23-2016, 09:45 PM
Butler is now 2-5 in Big East play. Three games below 500 is not a good place to be. I know their schedule was somewhat frontloaded, but they kinda needed that one today.
scoscox
01-23-2016, 09:58 PM
I mean... Creighton is better than them. Straight up. They don't have much on offense and athletically struggle to match up defensively. I just don't think they're a very good team. Not sure how they beat Purdue.
scoscox
01-23-2016, 09:58 PM
That could end up being a fairly bad loss for Purdue at this point.
Cheesehead
01-23-2016, 10:36 PM
Arizona goes down!
Xville
01-23-2016, 11:10 PM
Butler just isn't very good. Looking at their roster, I seriously wonder how they beat Purdue...they aren't a very good ballclub and them being ranked is a joke in my opinion.
xubrew
01-23-2016, 11:17 PM
Butler just isn't very good. Looking at their roster, I seriously wonder how they beat Purdue...they aren't a very good ballclub and them being ranked is a joke in my opinion.
They've lost five of seven. They were right in the game at Providence, but came up short. They have DePaul, Marquette, and the Johnnies coming up in their next four games. They need all three of them.
XUFan09
01-24-2016, 12:29 AM
I mean... Creighton is better than them. Straight up. They don't have much on offense and athletically struggle to match up defensively. I just don't think they're a very good team. Not sure how they beat Purdue.
Butler had a bad night offensively, but they have plenty on offense. It's ranked 19th in adjusted efficiency. Now, their defense is bad, and that's why they generally struggle. Really, Butler is just an exaggerated version of Xavier last year. Their offense comes in slightly higher but their defense is even worse. The difference is they don't really have the 1-3-1 to pull out in order to resolve some of their issues on that end.
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waggy
01-24-2016, 12:54 AM
Pomeroy -
The first thing you should know about this system is that it is designed to be purely predictive. If you’re looking for a system that rates teams on how “good” their season has been, you’ve come to the wrong place. There are enough systems out there that rank teams based on what is “good” by just about any definition you can think of. So I’d encourage you to google college basketball ratings or even try the opinion polls for something that is more your style.
The purpose of this system is to show how strong a team would be if it played tonight, independent of injuries or emotional factors. Since nobody can see every team play all (or even most) of their games, this system is designed to give you a snapshot of a team’s current level of play.
http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/ratings_explanation
So my take is that since X has started conference play, not only have there been a couple losses, the but the wins have been tighter in the scoring margin, and that is reflected in Pomeroy's rating. Ed's injury also played a part in this.
scoscox
01-24-2016, 10:12 AM
Interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks, Waggy.
And honestly, the fact that I don't like Butler plays into it, but it doesn't help that they have guys like Dunham and Roosevelt Jones that play for them. Dunham is awful and Jones is borderline not even playing basketball out there. They're the only Big East team that I want to lose every night.
waggy
01-24-2016, 10:47 AM
Reading a little on his (pomeroy's) site I believe his ratings are essentially based on points per possession. Both offensively and defensively. Not sure if it's weighted to more recent games, but that would make sense given it's intended to be predictive of current performance.
xubrew
01-24-2016, 12:09 PM
Reading a little on his (pomeroy's) site I believe his ratings are essentially based on points per possession. Both offensively and defensively. Not sure if it's weighted to more recent games, but that would make sense given it's intended to be predictive of current performance.
His efficiency ratings are based on nothing but points per possession, and it is not weighted. At least, it didn't used to be. I don't know if he currently factors that into his overall team ratings or not.
XUFan09
01-24-2016, 12:54 PM
His efficiency ratings are based on nothing but points per possession, and it is not weighted. At least, it didn't used to be. I don't know if he currently factors that into his overall team ratings or not.
It's only weighted for quality of opponents.
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GoMuskies
01-24-2016, 01:36 PM
Last undefeated going down.
xubrew
01-24-2016, 02:24 PM
Iowa lost an exhibition game, and didn't look particularly strong in the Advocare Classic. Is anyone else in agreement with me when I say they are noticeably better now??
Masterofreality
01-24-2016, 02:29 PM
Last undefeated going down.
And they did...to that garbage Temple..that still screws the rating of all of their conference mates, while messing up in the non-conference. Glad we're done with them. I hated going to that hood on North Broad in Philly
paulxu
01-25-2016, 09:18 AM
They actually suspended a couple of refs for not calling a foul or travelling here.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/1/23/10819806/ball-state-eastern-michigan-refs-buzzer-beater
X-band '01
01-25-2016, 09:21 AM
At least the refs were fair and balanced - they let both teams get away with a travel AND possibly stepping out of bounds on both teams.
MADXSTER
01-25-2016, 04:14 PM
They actually suspended a couple of refs for not calling a foul or travelling here.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/1/23/10819806/ball-state-eastern-michigan-refs-buzzer-beater
Wow, just wow.
xubrew
01-25-2016, 04:32 PM
They actually suspended a couple of refs for not calling a foul or travelling here.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/1/23/10819806/ball-state-eastern-michigan-refs-buzzer-beater
I actually saw this live. It was the end of the second overtime and I guess the refs were ready to leave. It's as if they wanted the clock to run, so they wouldn't whistle the foul.
Masterofreality
01-26-2016, 06:52 AM
Defend or foul.....the enduring question. Pretty ridiculous finish...And a pretty tricky tack foul...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25462266/amazing-ending-ga-southern-beats-app-state-on-improbable-4-point-play-video
D-West & PO-Z
01-26-2016, 12:41 PM
Defend or foul.....the enduring question. Pretty ridiculous finish...And a pretty tricky tack foul...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25462266/amazing-ending-ga-southern-beats-app-state-on-improbable-4-point-play-video
That looked like a completely dumb accidental foul, I thought it was going to be more of a Tu shot at end of KSU game where the guy got a shot off as intentionally being fouled. What a dumb foul.
GIMMFD
01-30-2016, 01:00 PM
WVU down 15 at halftime against Florida. Woof.
xubrew
01-30-2016, 01:07 PM
WVU down 15 at halftime against Florida. Woof.
Kind of surprised. Florida has won all the games they're supposed to win, but none against really good teams. Let's see if they can hold on.
xubrew
01-30-2016, 01:44 PM
Louisville is having an absolutely sucktacular game so far!!
GIMMFD
01-30-2016, 01:54 PM
Kind of surprised. Florida has won all the games they're supposed to win, but none against really good teams. Let's see if they can hold on.
Florida shooting 50%+, definitely in the bag for them.
xubrew
01-30-2016, 02:09 PM
Replay is such horse crap!
I think there should be replay, but I also think the standard should be "indisputable evidence."
If a call is made, and they go to replay, and after looking at it for 90 seconds the referees still aren't sure what the correct call is, then by definition there must be some sort of dispute or uncertainty. Therefore, in this situation, it is NOT indisputable!!
The original call should stand, and we need to get on with the game. Taking ten minutes to review a play is far more disruptive than not getting the call right, especially if it wasn't an obvious indisputable call in the first place.
xubrew
01-30-2016, 02:11 PM
That loss really hurts Butler. That was a winnable road game that they needed. Any singular road loss isn't that big of a deal, but with Butler it is no longer a singular loss. 3-6 in conference. If they finish more than two games below 500 they'll be watching the tournament on television.
D-West & PO-Z
01-30-2016, 04:25 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14674308/arizona-wildcats-coach-sean-miller-rips-team-loss-oregon-ducks
Sean Miller rips his team.
xudash
01-30-2016, 04:43 PM
The refs took out Marshall at home against UAB before our game today. Terrible no call that couldn't be reviewed at the end of the game, followed by ball out to UAB.
Game over after virtually no time left at that point.
xubrew
01-30-2016, 04:50 PM
Not looking good for Miami.
bobbiemcgee
01-30-2016, 05:41 PM
1939
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14674308/arizona-wildcats-coach-sean-miller-rips-team-loss-oregon-ducks
Sean Miller rips his team.
1939
XUFan09
01-30-2016, 06:07 PM
The refs took out Marshall at home against UAB before our game today. Terrible no call that couldn't be reviewed at the end of the game, followed by ball out to UAB.
Game over after virtually no time left at that point.
That end-of-game sequence bothered me. Okay, you missed the foul. That itself was probably a situation where the ref "didn't want to decide the game," even though the fouling player had already decided it by breaking the rules. Still, let's set that aside for the moment. They went to the monitor, and it looked like it was out on the Marshall player. However, it was a close call, and the ball only went out of bounds BECAUSE of the foul. At the very least, why not at least call the ball out on UAB? It wasn't a clear-cut situation, so it wouldn't have been outlandish to do so in itself, and it would at least partially make up for the fact that the refs couldn't retroactively call a foul.
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xubrew
01-30-2016, 06:17 PM
LSU is showing that they CAN bring it. The problem is that they don't always do it. Oklahoma will have to step it up defensively if they want to overcome this.
LA Muskie
01-30-2016, 06:21 PM
That end-of-game sequence bothered me. Okay, you missed the foul. That itself was probably a situation where the ref "didn't want to decide the game," even though the fouling player had already decided it by breaking the rules. Still, let's set that aside for the moment. They went to the monitor, and it looked like it was out on the Marshall player. However, it was a close call, and the ball only went out of bounds BECAUSE of the foul. At the very least, why not at least call the ball out on UAB? It wasn't a clear-cut situation, so it wouldn't have been outlandish to do so in itself, and it would at least partially make up for the fact that the refs couldn't retroactively call a foul.
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That's why I generally dislike review unless they are at liberty to review the entirety of the play. The refs should be empowered to get the overall call as right as possible. But I don't think they should pretend the ball was out on Marshall. They should either be permitted to call the foul or--at worse--rule that they made a mistake by not doing so and automatically give the ball back to the team harmed by the bad call/no-call.
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xubrew
01-30-2016, 06:33 PM
CUSA officials are awful. I don't know how much of the game you saw, but they were shitty the entire game. It's pretty much like that every game. CUSA has about three or four (maybe) NIT teams, and then about ten Southland caliber teams, and div2 caliber refs. If that. When they didn't call a foul on Marshall on a late possession, you could almost sense it. UAB could have tackled the guy, and they weren't going to call it. If anything, nice heads up play by UAB knowing the refs sucked and wouldn't call a foul.
xubrew
01-30-2016, 06:43 PM
I didn't start watching this game until the under 16 of the second half. I have yet to see Oklahoma not be awesome at any point this season, with perhaps the exception of their game against Memphis. Judging how they fell down by 15, I guess they were not awesome for part of this game, but they've been awesome ever since.
xubrew
01-30-2016, 09:46 PM
Who in the hell designed these Houston Baptist unis??
1940
Who in the hell designed these Houston Baptist unis??
1940
The Harlem Globetrotters? Or maybe the Washington Generals getting even for years of abuse?
xubrew
01-30-2016, 09:54 PM
They're unbeaten in Southland play. I'm not so sure we want that in the NCAA Tournament, though.
They're unbeaten in Southland play. I'm not so sure we want that in the NCAA Tournament, though.
Put on the Bozo wig, red nose and the big clown shoes and you've got something there. Might slow them in transition though.
usfldan
01-30-2016, 11:19 PM
Looking at their website, those are throwback unis they wore just for tonight. Their regular ones look more like Auburn. I'm just as curious about that gym. There are 10 rows of stands. According to the website, their gym's capacity is 1,000. Isn't there some sort of DI standard?
xubrew
01-30-2016, 11:36 PM
Looking at their website, those are throwback unis they wore just for tonight. Their regular ones look more like Auburn. I'm just as curious about that gym. There are 10 rows of stands. According to the website, their gym's capacity is 1,000. Isn't there some sort of DI standard?
There's no standards for basketball. I think Charleston Southern's is even smaller than that.
UCGRAD4X
01-31-2016, 08:18 AM
Looking at their website, those are throwback unis they wore just for tonight. Their regular ones look more like Auburn. I'm just as curious about that gym. There are 10 rows of stands. According to the website, their gym's capacity is 1,000. Isn't there some sort of DI standard?
That is ridiculous. I've been to quite a few grade-school gyms with more seats (and fans) as this pick seems to indicate. WOW!
X-band '01
01-31-2016, 08:49 AM
I want to say that someone in the Big South has the smallest capacity in Division I (making Schmidt Fieldhouse look like a palace by comparison). Brew is the expert on things like this, so I'll defer to him on the answer.
xubrew
01-31-2016, 09:30 AM
I want to say that someone in the Big South has the smallest capacity in Division I (making Schmidt Fieldhouse look like a palace by comparison). Brew is the expert on things like this, so I'll defer to him on the answer.
I think Charleston Southern is the smallest. And yes, they are in the Big South. Saint Francis Brooklyn (who's actually pretty good by NEC standards), is tiny as well. I think it's smaller than Houston Baptist.
I've seen Houston Baptist in a few other games, but I think that's the first home game. I pulled up the video stream and almost fell over when I saw their uniforms.
You use what you got, even if it's small.
xubrew
01-31-2016, 09:32 AM
I think Charleston Southern is the smallest. And yes, they are in the Big South. Saint Francis Brooklyn (who's actually pretty good by NEC standards), is tiny as well. I think it's smaller than Houston Baptist.
I've seen Houston Baptist in a few other games, but I think that's the first home game. I pulled up the video stream and almost fell over when I saw their uniforms.
You use what you got, even if it's small.
Oh wow. I just opened myself up to all kinds of...umm...we'll keep it PG rated and call them "manhood" jokes. It's not the size of the facility that counts. It's how you use it.
X-man
01-31-2016, 09:57 AM
Oh wow. I just opened myself up to all kinds of...umm...we'll keep it PG rated and call them "manhood" jokes. It's not the size of the facility that counts. It's how you use it.
I watched the DePaul game with a bunch of people down at the Yard House yesterday. One of us ordered the onion ring tower, and that was the first time I ever heard the phrase "onion ring tower envy".
bjf123
01-31-2016, 10:38 AM
They actually suspended a couple of refs for not calling a foul or travelling here.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/1/23/10819806/ball-state-eastern-michigan-refs-buzzer-beater
That was insane. Those refs should be suspended. They had to have their eyes closed to miss all of that.
Golf is a relatively simple game, played by reasonably intelligent people, stupidly.
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xubrew
02-02-2016, 09:53 PM
Dan Dackich is driving me crazy talking about how well Indiana is playing right now even though he is absolutely correct.
Xville
02-02-2016, 09:54 PM
Yikes michigan...yikes.
xubrew
02-02-2016, 10:20 PM
If Duke does not win this game they may be in serious trouble. Now, it's Georgia Tech and the chances of them blowing it are remarkably high, but still....
XUMIOH12
02-03-2016, 07:56 AM
west Virginia bounced back very nicely at iowa st last night. Big game from Devin Williams.
X-band '01
02-03-2016, 08:43 AM
I guess West Virginia was smart enough to stomp on the Gators' logo instead of Iowa State's logo. At least winning at Iowa State was more important for them.
xubrew
02-06-2016, 03:48 PM
Ball State and Western Michigan are down to the wire. Let's see if the officials can completely botch this up again!!!
xubrew
02-06-2016, 07:37 PM
This game should be fun. Both teams are unbeaten in the Southland, and they're playing in what can best be described as an intimate atmosphere...
http://hbu.edu/HBU-LIVE.aspx
xubrew
02-06-2016, 10:17 PM
Indiana loses at Penn State. That's not good.
GoMuskies
02-06-2016, 10:41 PM
Indiana loses at Penn State. That's not good.
For whom? I happen to cherish every Indiana loss that is not to Kentucky or Duke.
xubrew
02-06-2016, 11:08 PM
For whom? I happen to cherish every Indiana loss that is not to Kentucky or Duke.
Good point.
Xville
02-07-2016, 07:49 AM
Indiana loses at Penn State. That's not good.
Glad to see it. People were starting to talk up Indiana and acting like clean could actually coach. Glad to see them knocked down a peg.
xubrew
02-09-2016, 06:49 PM
Maryland is taking on Bowie State tonight. Gee, that should be a good one.
GIMMFD
02-09-2016, 07:50 PM
Maryland is taking on Bowie State tonight. Gee, that should be a good one.
What are they? Like D3. I'm tuning into Kansas and WVU, WVU doesn't look that great, but it is very difficult to win in Allen Fieldhouse, down 7 at the half. It'll be fun to keep tabs on other top teams and see what they look like.
xubrew
02-09-2016, 07:58 PM
If Cincinnati does not beat UCF, then chances are we'll have one less win against a tournament team than we were expecting. What a pile of burning pigeon shit they've turned into.
paulxu
02-09-2016, 08:58 PM
With 5:50 to go, Duquesne led Dayton by 12. Promptly went the rest of the game without scoring a single basket and lost by 2.
X-band '01
02-09-2016, 09:02 PM
Dayton only loses stinkers like that when GW or URI is involved.
xubrew
02-09-2016, 09:29 PM
UNC sweating out Boston College. Roy Williams also had to leave the game. I didn't see it, but apparently he is having a bout with vertigo.
xubrew
02-10-2016, 01:35 PM
I'm actually looking forward to Saint Joe's v GW tonight. Both teams are right on the bubble. Both teams need a notable win. Both teams have limited chances. In terms of how pivotal an individual game is in regards to both teams making the field, this is probably the most important game of the night. There may be room for both of them. There may not be room for either of them. But, winning this game would really help whoever wins it, and losing it will really hurt whoever loses it.
GoMuskies
02-11-2016, 10:23 AM
I had no idea Dayton was 20-3. Impressive.
On a semi-related note, with Alabama's win over Texas A&M yesterday, all 8 teams from the Orlando tournament are now in the top 50 of the RPI. 7 are in the top 33.
Tardy Turtle
02-11-2016, 10:58 AM
Boise State takes a stopwatch in the ass (w/o Vaseline) and likes it. (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/2/11/10964754/boise-state-colorado-state-buzzer-timer-refs-clock)
Lloyd Braun
02-11-2016, 11:45 AM
I had no idea Dayton was 20-3. Impressive.
On a semi-related note, with Alabama's win over Texas A&M yesterday, all 8 teams from the Orlando tournament are now in the top 50 of the RPI. 7 are in the top 33.
Dayton's loss to LaSalle is mind blowing. It's LaSalle's only win since Thanksgiving.
D-West & PO-Z
02-11-2016, 01:12 PM
Boise State takes a stopwatch in the ass (w/o Vaseline) and likes it. (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/2/11/10964754/boise-state-colorado-state-buzzer-timer-refs-clock)
That is terrible, how the hell did the refs get 1.2 to 1.3 secs. Boise definitely robbed of a game.
X-band '01
02-11-2016, 03:05 PM
They were robbed, but I'm sure the NIT Selection Committee will take that into account for the Broncos. It's been a very bad season for the Mountain West this year.
xubrew
02-11-2016, 03:31 PM
They were robbed, but I'm sure the NIT Selection Committee will take that into account for the Broncos. It's been a very bad season for the Mountain West this year.
....and the MWC refs have been emulating that recently. First the debacle with San Diego State v New Mexico, and now this.
UCGRAD4X
02-11-2016, 05:53 PM
Boise State takes a stopwatch in the ass (w/o Vaseline) and likes it. (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/2/11/10964754/boise-state-colorado-state-buzzer-timer-refs-clock)
Ouch. Bad week to be reminded of Hinkle Clock Debacle.
Masterofreality
02-11-2016, 07:32 PM
Quite frankly, these official reviews are now getting out of control. Human activity has always been part of sports and you can't just say that the clock operator screwed up. WTF do you want the guy to do? Push the clock button early in anticipation of the guy catching it?
This review stuff is becoming ridiculous- especially when they give coaches effectively extra time outs while they look at stuff "just to be sure". Enough with these overbaked reviews.
X-band '01
02-11-2016, 07:45 PM
I didn't know Memphis was playing today, but they got a huge road win today:
Memphis Zoo Tiger Kills Sacramento Zoo Tiger (http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/31193057/memphis-zoo-tiger-kills-sacramento-zoo-tiger-during-mating-attempt)
Talk about #RoadKill.
xubrew
02-11-2016, 08:57 PM
It has actually been a crazy night. VCU, Chattanooga, and William & Mary were all looking like teams that could end up inside the bubble and make the field even if they didn't win the conference tournament. Well, W&M lost after coming up empty in seven of their last nine possessions, Chattanooga is losing to a shit Western Carolina team, and VCU is about to lose to a shit UMass team.
Masterofreality
02-11-2016, 09:43 PM
VCU losing helps Butler & Seton Hall. The Committee will have some very interesting decisions this year.
xudash
02-11-2016, 09:59 PM
I channel surfed my way into the end of the VCU game.
Terrible looking game all the way around. No fans. Bad hoops.
What a mess.
D-West & PO-Z
02-11-2016, 10:27 PM
Oregon down 24 @Cal, thats good for XU as that is a team we may be fighting for seeding with.
Iowa is in a tight one with IU, would also be good for X if Iowa went down.
paulxu
02-11-2016, 10:48 PM
Chattanooga is losing to a shit Western Carolina team, and VCU is about to lose to a shit UMass team.
Shit happens.
D-West & PO-Z
02-11-2016, 11:07 PM
Why is it never called a travel when a guy catches a pass on a fast break situation near the basket and takes 2 full steps without a dribble and dunks? Is that not a travel, dont you have to dribble before taking steps?
D-West & PO-Z
02-11-2016, 11:09 PM
Iowa and Oregon lose, both good for X.
Masterofreality
02-12-2016, 08:38 AM
I channel surfed my way into the end of the VCU game.
Terrible looking game all the way around. No fans. Bad hoops.
What a mess.
The A10. Catch the excitement!!!!!!!!!
And Havoc is dead. The last vestige of Shaka's recruits will be gone soon and VCU will sink into the mediocrity of that secondary league. *A coach...not a program*
xubrew
02-12-2016, 10:24 AM
I actually like Will Wade. I thought that overall he'd done a good job with VCU, and that Chattanooga was as good they are because of him as well. Had they not lost their best player right before their game against Dayton (which they somehow still won) we're talking about a very dangerous team that I'd pick to get out of the round of 64.
Now, having said that, yesterday was not the day to argue about how good Will Wade is. Chattanooga lost to a Western Carolina team that me, MOR, and any three other posters from this board could probably beat, and VCU went down to UMass, who isn't any good either.
I'm actually kind of bummed, because I think Chattanooga would have been inside the bubble and been able to make the NCAA Tournament if they had won out through the regular season, even if they lost in the conference tournament. But, with a loss like that on their profile now, it's not very likely.
GoMuskies
02-12-2016, 10:26 AM
*THREE coachES...not a program*
Fixed that for you for accuracy.
xudash
02-12-2016, 11:38 AM
The A10. Catch the excitement!!!!!!!!!
And Havoc is dead. The last vestige of Shaka's recruits will be gone soon and VCU will sink into the mediocrity of that secondary league. *A coach...not a program*
I was amazed at how bad UMass looked. And the Mullins Center was just dead.
To think of where that program was two decades ago and to look at it now makes for a sad reaction. I suspect WH from the old A10 board has moved onto other priorities in life.
X-band '01
02-12-2016, 12:56 PM
We could tell WH moved on when his previews started to become more sparse. Even that was several years ago, sadly.
Masterofreality
02-12-2016, 03:06 PM
Fixed that for you for accuracy.
CAA doesn't count. Keep it going with a replacement coach. Your "accuracy" is inaccurate.
GoMuskies
02-12-2016, 03:08 PM
Ah yes, I forgot what hacks Bob Staak and Pete Gillen were.
XUFan09
02-12-2016, 03:10 PM
Shaka Smart made VCU a top 25 program. It probably will just fall back to being a top 50 program.
Masterofreality
02-12-2016, 07:31 PM
Ah yes, I forgot what hacks Bob Staak and Pete Gillen were.
That's unfair and inaccurate. Bob Staak came from nothing but got Xavier to 1 NCAA in a tertiary conference. Pete got Xavier to 7 NCAA's in the same tertiary conference. Skip got X to 4 in a secondary conference.
Jeff Capel made 1 NCAA in a same level tertiary conference. Anthony Grant made 2 NCAA's in the CAA. Shaka made 5, 2 in the CAA and 3 in the secondary conference. Until Shaka, VCU was spotty at best and now that he's gone, it's back to mediocrity. No comparison.
GoMuskies
02-12-2016, 07:36 PM
Anthony Grant won like 75% of his games at VCU. Only there three years.
And I'm sorry, but if the CAA doesn't count, then neither does the Midwest City Conference.
Masterofreality
02-12-2016, 08:29 PM
Well then, since you're into comparisons to Xavier and all, let's see if VCU can match Xavier's record in 19 years in a secondary conference of 15 NCAA'S and 11 Conference championships in some form.
My bet is that they won't come close.
xavierj
02-12-2016, 08:42 PM
Anthony Grant won like 75% of his games at VCU. Only there three years.
And I'm sorry, but if the CAA doesn't count, then neither does the Midwest City Conference.
What is the midwest city conference? Or are you just trying to be funny?
X-band '01
02-12-2016, 08:43 PM
That was the old name of the conference (Midwestern City Conference) - that was back in the Stone Age the last time Xavier had a losing conference record.
GoMuskies
02-12-2016, 08:56 PM
I just feel like Bizarro MOR in 1995 would have been saying Xavier is a coach not a program. Just wait til Gillen's players graduate. They'll never be anything special in the A-10. Sure they've been good for 13 years, but it's just the MCC.
Yech.
xavierj
02-12-2016, 09:05 PM
That was the old name of the conference (Midwestern City Conference) - that was back in the Stone Age the last time Xavier had a losing conference record.
It was the Midwestern Collegiate Conference...
GoMuskies
02-12-2016, 09:09 PM
It was the Midwestern Collegiate Conference...
Not always.
X-band '01
02-12-2016, 09:10 PM
It was the Midwestern Collegiate Conference...
It started as the Midwestern City Conference in 1979 but became the Midwestern Collegiate Conference in 1985.
Masterofreality
02-12-2016, 09:18 PM
I just feel like Bizarro MOR in 1995 would have been saying Xavier is a coach not a program. Just wait til Gillen's players graduate. They'll never be anything special in the A-10. Sure they've been good for 13 years, but it's just the MCC.
Yech.
That's your comeback Go? Name calling? Because you don't have a comeback? You're better than that.
GoMuskies
02-12-2016, 09:29 PM
Namecalling? You apparently don't watch Seinfeld.
xubrew
02-12-2016, 10:32 PM
Monmouth forces up way too many shots. It's a 30 second shot clock, yet they take bad shots with 22 seconds left on the clock. They can run away from teams, but they're also easy to stop if a team is even decent in half court defense.
xubrew
02-12-2016, 10:37 PM
It's been a bad 24 hours for good teams in smaller conferences that,prior to yesterday, looked like they could make the tournament without the automatic bid.
LA Muskie
02-12-2016, 11:00 PM
It was the Midwestern Collegiate Conference...
Ha! You just showed your age...
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GoMuskies
02-12-2016, 11:19 PM
That's a pretty solid choke job by Rider. Monmouth's season is saved.
Masterofreality
02-13-2016, 09:45 AM
That's a pretty solid choke job by Rider. Monmouth's season is saved.
I actually want Monmouth to make it and beat somebody in the Dance, other than a Big East team, of course.
Many dismiss the early season, in fact many pundits are doing it now focusing on the most recent, but the full body of work is important...and Monmouth has that. In-conference is tough, but the early season non conference sets an important precedent. I wish that somehow, it could be made more meaningful to the general public.
X-band '01
02-13-2016, 10:31 AM
If Monmouth wants an at-large, they're going to have to at a minimum win the MAAC regular season title and not lose a stinker in their conference tournament. Losing to Siena in Albany is forgivable; losing to a team like Marist or Rider would be catastrophic.
GoMuskies
02-13-2016, 12:10 PM
John Calipari just got tossed...after a foul on South Carolina.
paulxu
02-13-2016, 12:14 PM
And the Gamecock made 1 of 4 FT's.
X-band '01
02-13-2016, 12:24 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be in Michael Carrera's shoes going back to the SC huddle.
xubrew
02-13-2016, 12:30 PM
Calipari is a control freak. Now, control freaks can and do lose control (sometimes at a higher rate than most non-control freaks), but he typically doesn't.
I'm not saying he did it out of tact. But, I am saying I wonder if he did it out of tact. If he did, I don't agree with the tact, but it's odd for him to completely flip his shit two minutes into the game.
LA Muskie
02-13-2016, 12:33 PM
I find it very, very, very hard to imagine he wasn't looking to do that. It's nearly impossible to get tossed that early unless you're trying.
xubrew
02-13-2016, 12:38 PM
I find it very, very, very hard to imagine he wasn't looking to do that. It's nearly impossible to get tossed that early unless you're trying.
Agree.
I don't know WHY he did it, but I think he probably came out of the locker room before tip off planning to do it.
xubrew
02-13-2016, 12:40 PM
Between the end of the Illinois State game and the first half of the Northern Iowa game, Wichita State's last thirty minutes of basketball have been awful.
Xville
02-13-2016, 12:50 PM
Gtown is terrible.
GoMuskies
02-13-2016, 01:17 PM
Between the end of the Illinois State game and the first half of the Northern Iowa game, Wichita State's last thirty minutes of basketball have been awful.
It hardly counts, but they drilled Drake in between.
xubrew
02-13-2016, 01:28 PM
It hardly counts, but they drilled Drake in between.
I stand corrected. I forgot they had even played Drake.
X-band '01
02-13-2016, 01:28 PM
Gtown is terrible.
Hayes had a broken hand for Georgetown in practice earlier this week - he is out indefinitely. And with Jessie Govan in early foul trouble, it was a perfect recipe for disaster. Let the Friars get their good game out of the way today.
xubrew
02-13-2016, 01:33 PM
Well, if Cal meant to get kicked out because he thought it would somehow help, he was right.
GoMuskies
02-13-2016, 01:33 PM
Don't look now, but that one's not over
Georgetown has made it a game.
XUFan09
02-13-2016, 01:55 PM
I find it very, very, very hard to imagine he wasn't looking to do that. It's nearly impossible to get tossed that early unless you're trying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s11Ff8MktME
LA Muskie
02-13-2016, 02:02 PM
Ha! Yeah I was thinking the same thing. What a great movie.
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XUFan09
02-13-2016, 02:12 PM
Ha! Yeah I was thinking the same thing. What a great movie.
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That slight smirk on his face was great, basically saying, "Yeah, I did that on purpose."
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XUFan09
02-13-2016, 02:15 PM
Don't look now, but that one's not over
Georgetown has made it a game.
That foul on the three point shot was just stupid. Lucky for Providence, he missed the first free throw.
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GoMuskies
02-13-2016, 03:18 PM
Wichita State better win Arch Madness now. Bad seven days for them.
D-West & PO-Z
02-13-2016, 04:37 PM
Guess that settles that OU/KU debate. Kansas with a giant win @Oklahoma.
KU doesnt want that winning the conference streak to end.
X-band '01
02-13-2016, 05:18 PM
Wichita State better win Arch Madness now. Bad seven days for them.
Northern Iowa is going to be scary in Arch Madness.
D-West & PO-Z
02-13-2016, 05:26 PM
Oregon down 10 in 2nd half @Stanford, that would be two losses to unranked teams this week for them and would be a good thing for Xavier.
And as much as I dont like Duke, it would probably benefit X if UVA lost there.
THRILLHOUSE
02-13-2016, 05:34 PM
Agree.
I don't know WHY he did it, but I think he probably came out of the locker room before tip off planning to do it.
Yeah, it had to be planned. Here's his tweet about it:
John Calipari @UKCoachCalipari 3h3 hours ago
I have never been more proud of a team. They are now empowered. They've proven that they dont need me and I love it.
xubrew
02-13-2016, 06:15 PM
Akron is another team that may be able to make the NCAAs even if they don't win the automatic bid, but they're losing at Northern Illinois right now. This has actually been a good game. It's also interesting because Northern Illinois's program has completely turned around in the last couple years, and they have their biggest crowd in probably two decades this afternoon, so you have to like a program that's improving the way that they are. Still, I'd hate to see Akron get knocked outside the bubble.
paulxu
02-13-2016, 08:33 PM
I think Xavier is the only school in the country with 22 Div1 wins.
X-band '01
02-13-2016, 08:36 PM
Yep - Maryland blew their chance to get to 22. They just got their asses kicked by Wisconsin. At home. Let that sink in.
These are the other teams with 21 wins right now - Villanova, Maryland, Dayton, Chattanooga and Monmouth.
paulxu
02-13-2016, 08:57 PM
Northern Iowa scored 15 points in the second half...and won.
xubrew
02-13-2016, 09:29 PM
This would not be a good loss for Valpo. It really wouldn't be.
scoscox
02-13-2016, 09:29 PM
Maryland had already won their 22nd
Lloyd Braun
02-13-2016, 09:40 PM
This would not be a good loss for Valpo. It really wouldn't be.
Haven't they already lost to wsu?
Edit: I looked it up and they have...and thought they were on the road tonight. Home loss would be real bad. Valpo will be an interesting team in March.
D-West & PO-Z
02-13-2016, 10:40 PM
Some great results for XU today/this week with some teams we may be competing with seeding for. (Of course our loss to Creighton benefits them)
Oregon loses twice to unranked teams.
Maryland loses at home to Wisconsin.
Iowa lost to IU.
Iowa State lost to Texas Tech.
Virginia loses to unranked Duke.
Texas AM lost their 4th in a row today.
Oklahoma lost
Purdue lost
Sparty lost
WVU did not pick up a huge win at KU
xubrew
02-13-2016, 10:41 PM
Haven't they already lost to wsu?
Edit: I looked it up and they have...and thought they were on the road tonight. Home loss would be real bad. Valpo will be an interesting team in March.
Unless you think the NIT is interesting then maybe not if they don't win the HL Tournament, which isn't at campus sites anymore, so finishing first really doesn't help them.
But, yeah, they're really good when they're not playing Wright State
D-West & PO-Z
02-13-2016, 10:49 PM
I think the 2 Oregon loses this week are the biggest for XU, Oregon had, still has, a pretty good resume, glad it took a hit.
X-band '01
02-13-2016, 10:53 PM
Maryland had already won their 22nd
I'm not looking at non-DI wins like Bowie State.
#BelowTheHardDeckDoesntCount
D-West & PO-Z
02-13-2016, 11:59 PM
Gonzaga loses to SMU. They have lost to every good team they have played other than Uconn.
xubrew
02-14-2016, 10:06 AM
Gonzaga loses to SMU. They have lost to every good team they have played other than Uconn.
...and they haven't beaten all the bad teams they've played either.
xubrew
02-14-2016, 10:11 AM
I know I've said this before, but I guess I'll say it again...
DAMN, what an AWFUL week for so many teams that were set up to get at-large bids if only they'd held serve. Chattanooga loses to Western Carolina, Valpo loses to Wright State (again), Little Rock went down on Thursday, and William & Mary looked so bad in their last two games that maybe it's better that they're out of the picture now. It's a miracle that Monmouth is not on that list, because quite frankly for 38 minutes of their game against Rider they looked pathetic.
So, these teams better win that last conference tournament game now. But, even then playing a #4 seed is a lot harder than playing a #5 or #6 seed, which is what they were setting themselves up for had they just won out against the crappy teams they were playing.
I now hope UNC Wilmington gets in out of the Colonial. They don't have the best profile, but they've been playing the best basketball and could really give someone a game in the Round of 64.
Lloyd Braun
02-14-2016, 10:58 AM
I know I've said this before, but I guess I'll say it again...
DAMN, what an AWFUL week for so many teams that were set up to get at-large bids if only they'd held serve. Chattanooga loses to Western Carolina, Valpo loses to Wright State (again), Little Rock went down on Thursday, and William & Mary looked so bad in their last two games that maybe it's better that they're out of the picture now. It's a miracle that Monmouth is not on that list, because quite frankly for 38 minutes of their game against Rider they looked pathetic.
So, these teams better win that last conference tournament game now. But, even then playing a #4 seed is a lot harder than playing a #5 or #6 seed, which is what they were setting themselves up for had they just won out against the crappy teams they were playing.
I now hope UNC Wilmington gets in out of the Colonial. They don't have the best profile, but they've been playing the best basketball and could really give someone a game in the Round of 64.
Yea Valpo will pretty much need to win the tournament but if they win out to conference final id give them a chance at an at large albeit small. They have a decent OOC schedule with fair results. I have only watched a small handful of CAA games and came away thinking Hofstra was the best team. Again it's a small sample size and frankly was underwhelmed with all 3 top teams.
X-band '01
02-14-2016, 11:01 AM
If that scenario involves Valpo getting beaten 3 times by Wright State, forget it.
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