So Louisville....

[Murph85]

There will some recruits getting out of their commitments. Any 2017 prospects on X recruit list?

Hard to believe that the verbals at a minimum will consider the inevitable sanctions and look else where.

[bleedXblue]

There is going to be fall out. Considerable.

Slick Rick is going to have a hard time weathering this storm.

[Lamont Sanford]

Someone cue up the Mack to Louisville thread in 3, 2, 1...

[casualfan]

There will some recruits getting out of their commitments. Any 2017 prospects on X recruit list?

Hard to believe that the verbals at a minimum will consider the inevitable sanctions and look else where.

Louisville has no 2017 prospects committed

[Milhouse]

Someone cue up the Mack to Louisville thread in 3, 2, 1...

Not sure he'd be anywhere near as interested with sanctions that will be coming down. Prolly best case scenario for X fans all things considered.

[GoMuskies]

Someone cue up the Mack to Louisville thread in 3, 2, 1...

Kristi Hester WAS a good Louisville Holy Cross product.

But I don't think Mack can get that job. And I don't think that anyone who is from Shively is aching to get back to Louisville!

[X-band '01]

You're also forgetting that Ohio State had to face sanctions courtesy of Jim O'Brien when they hired Thad Matta.

[SemajParlor]

Pitino needs to go for this.

[Cheesehead]

Seth Greenberg has stated he does not know how Pitino survives this but this is the same school that stuck w/ two coaches who committed known adultery. Rick banged some crazy chick in a restaurant, then she tried to blackmail him and he kept his job. So the AD goes out and re-hires Petrino, who left the Atlanta Falcons w/out even speaking to his players and left a four sentence laminated note in the locker of each player. Petrino follows that up w/ getting canned for totaling his cycle w/ his 20 something year old mistress and then lied about it.

Yes, the standards are high down then in the 'ville.

[GoMuskies]

Why would someone get fired for adultery? I understand why Petrino had to go at Arkansas, but it wasn't because of adultery. I mean, if Chris Mack was banging a broad on the side I wouldn't be thrilled, but I wouldn't want him fired.

[94GRAD]

Why would someone get fired for adultery? I understand why Petrino had to go at Arkansas, but it wasn't because of adultery. I mean, if Chris Mack was banging a broad on the side I wouldn't be thrilled, but I wouldn't want him fired.

Didnt we have an AD fired because of this?:secret:

[Cheesehead]

Why would someone get fired for adultery? I understand why Petrino had to go at Arkansas, but it wasn't because of adultery. I mean, if Chris Mack was banging a broad on the side I wouldn't be thrilled, but I wouldn't want him fired.

I am speaking more about the character of these two head coaches at Louisville. Petrino's thing was also that his mistress was on payroll. I think a private Jesuit school would have a problem with such behavior.

[GoMuskies]

Petrino's thing was also that his mistress was on payroll.

Of course he had to go at Arkansas. But it wasn't the adultery that did him in. No one at Arkansas would have batted an eyelash that he was banging the volleyball player if she wasn't on the payroll.

[Cheesehead]

Didnt we have an AD fired because of this?:secret:

Allegedly, BJ! (:

[GoMuskies]

Didnt we have an AD fired because of this?:secret:

Wasn't she sexing someone in the athletic department? Like, an athletic department employee, and physically doing it IN the athletic department. She pulled a Costanza.

[xubrew]

Of course he had to go at Arkansas. But it wasn't the adultery that did him in. No one at Arkansas would have batted an eyelash that he was banging the volleyball player if she wasn't on the payroll.

If it was a CURRENT student-athlete, most athletic departments would have a problem with that.

Other than that, you're right. Most athletic depts. wouldn't fire someone for having an affair. And, like you said, it's not that they were having an affair, its' that they were having a sexual relationship with a subordinate, which they would view any student athlete to be even if they weren't their own players. Not saying that makes complete sense. Just saying that's the way it is.

I agree with your point that what Pitino did and what Petrino did are not at all the same.

[ChicagoX]

Wasn't she sexing someone in the athletic department? Like, an athletic department employee, and physically doing it IN the athletic department. She pulled a Costanza.

Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, ‘cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time.

[X-band '01]

There's a world of difference between behavior that would violate BYU's honor code and an alleged prostitution ring (especially if some of the pros were underage).

[GoMuskies]

If you haven't watched the 11 minute OTL video posted on the front page of ESPN.com, you should do so. Holy hell.

The allegations are damning, and it looks also for Louisville. But on a side note, it's quite bizarre that they have shots of Powell and her daughters laughing it up together at Waterfront Park. This is the woman who says she pimped out her two daughters to basketball recruits, and they look like the happiest family of all time.

[SemajParlor]

Why would someone get fired for adultery? I understand why Petrino had to go at Arkansas, but it wasn't because of adultery. I mean, if Chris Mack was banging a broad on the side I wouldn't be thrilled, but I wouldn't want him fired.

Publicly damages the University's reputation.

[GoMuskies]

Adultery publicly damages the university's reputation?!?

Did a President getting an intern BJ publicly harm the United States's reputation? I think not. (Well, maybe to the extent the most powerful person in the world couldn't find someone attractive to service him)

[bleedXblue]

If you haven't watched the 11 minute OTL video posted on the front page of ESPN.com, you should do so. Holy hell.

The allegations are damning, and it looks also for Louisville. But on a side note, it's quite bizarre that they have shots of Powell and her daughters laughing it up together at Waterfront Park. This is the woman who says she pimped out her two daughters to basketball recruits, and they look like the happiest family of all time.

Yeah, she just wants to tell her story and make sure the truth gets out..........LOL.......she's grabbing the money while she can. Once a scum bag always a scum bag. That goes for her, her daughters and the anyone who had knowledge of this within UL.

[SemajParlor]

Adultery publicly damages the university's reputation?!?

Did a President getting an intern BJ publicly harm the United States's reputation? I think not. (Well, maybe to the extent the most powerful person in the world couldn't find someone attractive to service him)

That's a pretty awful analogy.

[GoMuskies]

No, it's pretty much spot on.

[SemajParlor]

No, it's pretty much spot on.

ESPN will be quite exciting when the fate of Pitino's job lies in the hands of the Senate!

[GoMuskies]

What does that have to do with whether the conduct publicly damaged the reputation of a venerable institution?

[MADXSTER]

There's a world of difference between behavior that would violate BYU's honor code and an alleged prostitution ring (especially if some of the pros were underage).

Wait! BYU is the fun team. Are you saying BYU wouldn't permit this type of fun behavior? Talk about an Oxymoron

[casualfan]

Kristi Hester WAS a good Louisville Holy Cross product.

But I don't think Mack can get that job. And I don't think that anyone who is from Shively is aching to get back to Louisville!

It's at the top of her list...

[GoMuskies]

I suppose because she wouldn't have to live in Shively anymore.

[Olsingledigit]

What does that have to do with whether the conduct publicly damaged the reputation of a venerable institution?

I have never really thought of Loisville as a "venerable" university.

[GoMuskies]

I have never really thought of Loisville as a "venerable" university.

Very fair point. Although I have to defend the med school since it produced a graduate thst allowed me to eat and have shelter growing up.

[Cheesehead]

Ok, so does Pitino survive this? Yay or Nay? Go.

[MADXSTER]

NAY, but he will go out on his terms(so to speak)

[X-Fan]

If you haven't watched the 11 minute OTL video posted on the front page of ESPN.com, you should do so. Holy hell.

The allegations are damning, and it looks also for Louisville. But on a side note, it's quite bizarre that they have shots of Powell and her daughters laughing it up together at Waterfront Park. This is the woman who says she pimped out her two daughters to basketball recruits, and they look like the happiest family of all time.


Yeah, she just wants to tell her story and make sure the truth gets out..........LOL.......she's grabbing the money while she can. Once a scum bag always a scum bag. That goes for her, her daughters and the anyone who had knowledge of this within UL.

The interview is pretty damning (semi-pun intended). While I wouldn't be surprised if most of what she's saying is the truth...it's absolutely a money grab. With that being said, and even with her being a less than savory person, this is BAD for Pitino/Ville.

The scary part is, I'm sure this is not unique to college recruiting. I remember back when I was in school, the football players would sometimes take the recruits to the strip club. Now, everyone was over 18, so nothing was technically illegal, but I'm sure "immoral" things go on at a lot of schools.

[nuts4xu]

So let me get this straight, recruits actually have sex with women on recruiting trips?

That sounds like a great idea! Why didn't we think of that at Xavier?

I will volunteer to screen the hookers and make sure they are "professionals" and not some Cragslist amateur. I will also take care of the money, and make sure Coach Mack doesn't know. If we can secure a few 5 star recruits, I think it would be worth it. I saw Katina Brown say she was paid for sex by Andre McGee (only $500). If I need to pay some madam to have sex with me, to ensure her silence....that is what I will do.

I am truly a man for others!!!

[Fireball]

Yeah, she just wants to tell her story and make sure the truth gets out..........LOL.......she's grabbing the money while she can. Once a scum bag always a scum bag. That goes for her, her daughters and the anyone who had knowledge of this within UL.

And that's honestly why I think that Pitino didn't know about this. Anyone with half a brain would know how something like this was going to turn out, that it would all get out as part of a money-grab. Say what you want about Pitino's ethics, but he's not stupid.

He still needs to be fired / suspended / whatever because of this, because it happened under his watch, but I doubt that he knew about it.

[xubrew]

I think Louisville is going down, and it won't be a soft landing when they hit the ground.

From a compliance issue, you're looking at violations of excessive entertainment, improper benefits, the new and favorite "not promoting an atmosphere of compliance," and of course "lack of institutional control." This is Level One Violation area stuff.

Louisville may not want to do it, but I think the best thing to do long term is to go ahead and blow themselves up. Self impose a postseason ban at minimum, with the idea of being sentenced to time already served when the NCAA does come around to making a ruling. Having Pitino resign wouldn't be the worst idea in the world either.

[muskiefan82]

were these recruits on official visits? I can't imagine a scenario where the coach doesn't at least keep some sort of tabs on what is happening while the recruit is on an official visit. He now has to explain to parents why this happened and he had no idea where the recruits were or what they were doing. Looks really bad even if he really didn't know.

[maketewahXalum]

I agree, Brew. Louisville will be dealt some pretty tough punishment for this, in my opinion. These are very serious violations.

Does anyone know if this will affect their entire athletic program, or just the Mens Basketball? If it were to affect their entire athletics program, at least they know Petrino won't be going anywhere, as his options are few and far between at this point..

[Cheesehead]

I think Pitino is screwed. He says he didn't know about it and can claim ignorance. Ok fine, but this is over the course of 4 years. If you didn't know about it, then why didn't you know about it?

[xubrew]

I think Pitino is screwed. He says he didn't know about it and can claim ignorance. Ok fine, but this is over the course of 4 years. If you didn't know about it, then why didn't you know about it?

The problem is that not knowing about it no longer matters, even if you didn't actually know about it. I don't know when the "atmosphere of compliance" went into effect, but it was within the last couple of years. It basically means that if a subordinate (ie staff member, assistant coach, etc) does something stupid, the head coach is guilty of not promoting an atmosphere of compliance even if he was completely clueless and had no reasonable way of knowing. Good or bad, fair or unfair, that's the new standard. Boeheim said he didn't know, and maybe he didn't. Calhoun said he didn't know, and although many here may disagree with this, I actually believe him. I don't think he did know. Larry Brown said he didn't know and maybe he....well, in his case he probably did know, but even if he didn't, it wouldn't have mattered. This won't either. Fair or not, Pitino is in deep shit.

[Murph85]

I have no doubt about the authenticity of this woman's claim. In the arena of the top 5-10 basketball and football programs, I believe only a few are so elite that this practice is not common. Duke comes to mind for basketball and Ohio State for football. The Ohio State opinion stems from and actual recruitment I was educated on from the athlete regarding two visits. (Roll Tide)

Further, when it comes to the Louisville/Alabama/Syracuse smelling types, I would not be surprised if they (Coach) did not consider the quality level of girl ($$)provided to make sure the transaction was cost effective or to make sure the highest sought after athletes get the top of the line escort. They are paid to win and some do at any cost.

[LA Muskie]

I have no doubt about the authenticity of this woman's claim. In the arena of the top 5-10 basketball and football programs, I believe only a few are so elite that this practice is not common. Duke comes to mind for basketball and Ohio State for football. The Ohio State opinion stems from and actual recruitment I was educated on from the athlete regarding two visits. (Roll Tide)

Further, when it comes to the Louisville/Alabama/Syracuse smelling types, I would not be surprised if they (Coach) did not consider the quality level of girl ($$)provided to make sure the transaction was cost effective or to make sure the highest sought after athletes get the top of the line escort. They are paid to win and some do at any cost.
I think many programs are willing to quietly win at most cost. But I think this cost in particular is pretty damn rare.

[D-West & PO-Z]

College coaches are always the most controlling, meticulous, OCD people, until they suddenly are not. Very convenient.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think many programs are willing to quietly win at most cost. But I think this cost in particular is pretty damn rare.

Yeah I dont think it is common for strippers/hookers to be hired to come to DORMS to stripand have sex with recruits. Going to strip clubs sure, having hot girls on campus hang out with them and do whatever sure. Hiring hookers to have sex in dorm rooms. No way.

[XUFan09]

College coaches are always the most controlling, meticulous, OCD people, until they suddenly are not. Very convenient.
Ha, so true!

[maketewahXalum]

Does anyone know if this will affect their entire athletic program, or just the Men's Basketball?

[xubrew]

Does anyone know if this will affect their entire athletic program, or just the Men's Basketball?

Most likely just men's basketball. The NCAA will likely start looking around at other sports, but unless they find that other sports were also committing violations then the rest should be fine.

[nuts4xu]

https://ioneadwnews.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/11374462_838941852893067_2089785665_n.jpg?w=300&h=300

[waggy]

How much time does Louisville need before firing Pitino?

[paulxu]

I think the girls were just taking one for the team.

[nuts4xu]

I think the girls were just taking one for the team.

From what it sounds like, they each took more than one for the team.

[94GRAD]

I think the girls were just taking one for the team.

You think they ever took two for the team?

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Fixed that for ya!


I think the girls were just taking one from the team.

[GoMuskies]

How much time does Louisville need before firing Pitino?

About 15 seconds.

[Juice]

About 15 seconds.

No, no. That's how much time Pitino needs to do his firing.

[MADXSTER]

No, no. That's how much time Pitino needs to do his firing.

Wrong, That was 18 seconds.

[muskiefan82]

No, no. That's how much time Pitino needs to do his firing.


Wrong, That was 18 seconds.

He is more excited now.

[xu82]

Wrong, That was 18 seconds.

He still beat the shot clock.

[gladdenguy]

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/tim-sullivan/2015/10/20/sullivan-pitinos-time-expiring-u-l/74277752/

The comments are great.

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[nuts4xu]

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/tim-sullivan/2015/10/20/sullivan-pitinos-time-expiring-u-l/74277752/

The comments are great.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQL8foNecv22Y2iDBHw5TXP1tB5QFl0T NZBjkLIMOijEFcMG4x4

I can't get that picture to upload. Can somebody embed for me?

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[xubrew]

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/tim-sullivan/2015/10/20/sullivan-pitinos-time-expiring-u-l/74277752/

The comments are great.

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Getting busted for having strippers and escorts in the freshmen dorms is somewhat embarrassing. Those comments are far more embarrassing than the actual act.