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94GRAD
09-16-2015, 03:57 PM
FYI everyone.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/108598/top-10-potential-benefits-of-rule-changes
casualfan
09-16-2015, 04:01 PM
Mark it down: You're going to see a shitload of zone this year.
sgarcia
09-16-2015, 04:19 PM
Rule 6 will work about as well as getting guys in MLB to stay in the batters box. It might work early on but as the season goes on teams will revert back to taking extra time and refs won't do anything about it.
casualfan
09-16-2015, 04:24 PM
Rule 6 will work about as well as getting guys in MLB to stay in the batters box. It might work early on but as the season goes on teams will revert back to taking extra time and refs won't do anything about it.
I disagree. With as T happy as a lot of refs are they're probably practicing their delivery in the mirror as we speak.
Muskie
09-16-2015, 04:27 PM
I prefer rule 76.
X-band '01
09-16-2015, 04:30 PM
Mark it down: You're going to see a shitload of zone this year.
From Xavier or from more teams in general?
DC Muskie
09-16-2015, 04:40 PM
I like the 10 second rule change.
casualfan
09-16-2015, 04:46 PM
From Xavier or from more teams in general?
I don't know about Xavier, but most of the coaches I've talked to have said you will see zone A TON.
Specifically a token 3/4 press back to zone.
Think about it like this:
You have 30 seconds to shoot.
With token pressure it takes a team 7-8 seconds to get the ball over mid court then another 2-3 seconds to get everyone in their spots and start running the offense.
At that point you've only got 20 seconds to diagnose the defense, get into a set, and get a good look. That sounds like a lot of time, but it really isn't, especially if the first look you run isn't successful.
I think people are going to be shocked at two things:
1. How much more zone you see.
2. How many more bad shots you see.
X-band '01
09-16-2015, 04:46 PM
Also pay attention to timeouts called during live action; players can call timeouts but coaches cannot do so anymore.
casualfan
09-16-2015, 04:49 PM
Also pay attention to timeouts called during live action; players can call timeouts but coaches cannot do so anymore.
Which to me means you'll just hear a lot more "Insert players name here >>> ______________ CALL TIME OUT!!!"
XU 87
09-16-2015, 04:57 PM
For the most part, I like the changes except for the 30 second clock. I think we are going to see more bad shots.
And I agree with what XUbrew says below- the games are way too physical.
xubrew
09-16-2015, 04:58 PM
They need to fix replay. Holy crap, they need to fix replay. Immediately!! In fact, they need to fix it even more quickly than that. But, they won't.
I like the NFL standard of "conclusive evidence" to overturn a call. What I don't like is what they're interpretation of "conclusive" seemingly is. If, in a sixty second period, you're still not sure, then by definition the replay is not conclusive. The original call stands. GET BACK TO THE GAME!!! I hate watching the referees watch television for minutes at a time several times a game. It's so annoying, that I wish the clock operator would be charged with blowing the horn indicating that the referee's sixty seconds is up, and that the game must now resume.
The other thing they need to fix is how the game is officiated. The shot clock is not the issue. The overly physical play is. I realize everyone hates watching foul parades, but they need to officiate the game the way they did in the 80s and 90s, which would mean an abundance of fouls for the first few weeks until the players adjusted. Offenses are not allowed to develop because games are becoming more and more like rugby scrums. It's my understanding that this is once again a point of emphasis. They need to stick to it, though. Keep calling fouls until the players adjust and stop fouling, even if it means calling a shit load of fouls.
Those two things plague the game a ton. But, hey, at least they fixed it so you could dunk in pregame warmups!
XUMIOH12
09-16-2015, 04:58 PM
For the most part I like these changes. I love the 30 second shot clock, I don't think it will change the pace of play or scoring, but will prevent teams from holding the ball at the top of the key waiting to set up the offense for 10 seconds. The 10 second half-court rule change and the timeout rules are great changes.
waggy
09-16-2015, 05:02 PM
These rule changes are a bunch of crap. Most of them suck and the others are WGAF?
X-band '01
09-16-2015, 05:33 PM
But, hey, at least they fixed it so you could dunk in pregame warmups!
This came a decade too late - GW (read: Pops Mensah-Bonsu) used to have some legendary dunks in pregame and even got T'd up for it on one occasion.
PM Thor
09-16-2015, 06:02 PM
Really dislike the loss of the 5 second closely guarded rule. Instead of getting rid of it altogether they should have just clarified it better. I mean, what is the motivation for a defender to defend tightly up high anymore? The loss of this rule actually will slow the game down.
DC Muskie
09-16-2015, 08:31 PM
Really dislike the loss of the 5 second closely guarded rule. Instead of getting rid of it altogether they should have just clarified it better. I mean, what is the motivation for a defender to defend tightly up high anymore? The loss of this rule actually will slow the game down.
Yeah all of these rules seem to be designed to speed up the pace. This one seems to slow things down.
D-West & PO-Z
09-16-2015, 08:55 PM
FYI everyone.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/108598/top-10-potential-benefits-of-rule-changes
Love the shot clock shortened (wish it was 28), the elimination of one timeout, and the no reset of the 10 seconds in the backcourt.
D-West & PO-Z
09-16-2015, 09:06 PM
I will be shocked if we see any real difference (in terms of bad shots) with the 30 seconds as opposed to 35 seconds. I think people are making way too big of a deal with thinking that is going to make the offense so much worse. Teams currently hold the ball wayyy too long with no urpose whatsoever on offense. Trust me I am a St. Louis Billikens fan. 5 seconds will not make the offense worse.
XU Cowbell Kid
09-17-2015, 12:02 PM
I will be shocked if we see any real difference (in terms of bad shots) with the 30 seconds as opposed to 35 seconds. I think people are making way too big of a deal with thinking that is going to make the offense so much worse. Teams currently hold the ball wayyy too long with no urpose whatsoever on offense. Trust me I am a St. Louis Billikens fan. 5 seconds will not make the offense worse.
I agree. I think the fact that teams wait until there are 10 seconds left on the clock before halftime to actually start doing anything is a good indication of how long it takes to run an offensive set - less than 10 seconds. The same goes for when teams are milking the clock - get the ball upcourt, stop until the shot clock is at 10, and run a set.
xubrew
09-17-2015, 12:19 PM
This came a decade too late - GW (read: Pops Mensah-Bonsu) used to have some legendary dunks in pregame and even got T'd up for it on one occasion.
I always thought it would be cool to see two teams who needed to drum up some publicity and were unable to do so by actually being good to announce they would have a dunking contest before the game. Just accept that both teams will start off with technical fouls.
Baylor did this a few times. Apparently Scott Drew was fine with it. Granted, they did it against crappy competition, but they'd get out there, dunk the ball, and get t-d up.
MADXSTER
09-17-2015, 04:08 PM
Hey, this might get some people into their seats before the game ;)
muskiefan82
09-17-2015, 04:29 PM
Hey, this might get some people into their seats before the game ;)
Ha!! Well-played.
LA Muskie
09-18-2015, 01:15 AM
I like the 30-second clock. Even if it results in more missed shots. It will create additional possessions in end-game situations, and frankly that's the most fun part of the game.
I like all the rule changes that I understand. Except getting rid of the 5-second closely guarded rule. That seems counter-intuitive to rewarding defense.
bjf123
09-18-2015, 12:37 PM
They need to take a version of Rule 3 to the English Premier League.
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Kahns Krazy
09-18-2015, 04:01 PM
These rule changes are a bunch of crap. Most of them suck and the others are WGAF?
I keep forgetting. Are you the one on the left?
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Kahns Krazy
09-18-2015, 04:08 PM
I like the 30-second clock. Even if it results in more missed shots. It will create additional possessions in end-game situations, and frankly that's the most fun part of the game.
I like all the rule changes that I understand. Except getting rid of the 5-second closely guarded rule. That seems counter-intuitive to rewarding defense.
I agree that this one makes no sense. I get that it was difficult to enforce but blatant violations were called. This seems to make end-of-game defense worthless.
Pault
09-19-2015, 07:39 AM
These changes are LONG overdue...the summary of the "closely guarded" rule change is accurate...it was difficult to call. However, it will not penalize good defense by eliminating it...since it was so rarely called anyhow. Defenders will play tough D for the same reason they always have, to disrupt the opponents offense. Most of the rule changes are geared toward speeding up the game, and getting away from needless clock stoppages. I like them...and as we have seen in the past, the rules committee will follow their progress during the season, and tweak them, as needed, next year.
LA Muskie
09-19-2015, 10:34 AM
It may not have been regularly called, but for the most part that was because the rule worked as intended -- offensive players didn't hold the ball or dribble aimlessly if they were closely defended. Especially in end game situations. No one wanted to risk that violation and resulting turnover. Now I think we'll see the ball just held in the hands of PGs (or dribbled aimlessly) at the end of games far more often.
I agree it probably won't affect the defenses all that much. They still want/need to defend and weren't doing so for the call. But it was a rule that awarded good defense, and I always hate to see those go.
XUFan09
09-19-2015, 02:38 PM
I don't think something being rarely called is a worthwhile argument against its effectiveness.
For example, 3 seconds in the paint isn't called much. Is it sometimes called too quickly? Very rarely. Is it sometimes missed? Sure. But, for the most part, it doesn't need to be called because it's working as intended: Offensive players don't camp in the paint.
Olsingledigit
09-19-2015, 11:44 PM
I like the 30-second clock. Even if it results in more missed shots. It will create additional possessions in end-game situations, and frankly that's the most fun part of the game.
I like all the rule changes that I understand. Except getting rid of the 5-second closely guarded rule. That seems counter-intuitive to rewarding defense.
Keep in mind that the closely guarded rule was first put into the rule book BEFORE the shot clock was adopted. When it failed to stop the 4-corners and other delay tactics the shot clock was adopted, which made the 5 Second rules redundant. For some unknown reason it was kept any way. I have wanted it removed since that time. It distracts referees from other things and serves no purpose when a shot clock is in effect.
LA Muskie
09-20-2015, 12:02 PM
They may overlap but I wouldn't call them redundant. The shot clock requires the offense to do something within (now) 30 seconds. The closely guarded rule forced ballhandlers to put the ball in play during that 30 seconds.
They may overlap but I wouldn't call then redundant. The shot clock requires the offense to do something within (now) 30 seconds. The closely guarded rule forced ballhandlers to put the ball in play during that 30 seconds.
Yes. And it prevented a ball hog from stalling with the ball for 15 seconds, faking jukes. 5 second rule also gave the defense a chance to take the ball away from a passive/stall at the end of a half. Knocking 5 seconds off the shot clock doesn't fix end of game stalling.
XUFan09
09-20-2015, 01:03 PM
Yes. And it prevented a ball hog from stalling with the ball for 15 seconds, faking jukes. 5 second rule also gave the defense a chance to take the ball away from a passive/stall at the end of a half. Knocking 5 seconds off the shot clock doesn't fix end of game stalling.
Or end of game stalling either. If you're down a point or two in the closing seconds and on defense, you are often in a situation where you are trying to force a turnover before resorting to fouling. Normally, the offense has to work the ball around, thus creating the risk of a turnover against a high-pressure defense. Now, they can just hold the ball for the entirety of the shot clock, maybe until the end of the game, and not worry nearly as much about turning it over. It goes from being a solid chance that a team has to resort to fouling to almost a guarantee that they do.
D-West & PO-Z
09-20-2015, 04:31 PM
I think you guys are exaggerating the impact of the 5 second count a little bit. Do you know how easy it was to get a new count, especially in end of half or end of game situations? One jab step by the guy with the ball and defender gets far enough away and the count restarts. At the end of half and end of game the defense is sagging a little anyway.
colbob
09-20-2015, 06:00 PM
I think you guys are exaggerating the impact of the 5 second count a little bit. Do you know how easy it was to get a new count, especially in end of half or end of game situations? One jab step by the guy with the ball and defender gets far enough away and the count restarts. At the end of half and end of game the defense is sagging a little anyway.
You are exactly right. The five second rule can easily be a 12 second rule. Once you catch the ball and you are closely guarded, you can stay that way for four seconds. If you then dribble the ball even once, the count starts over again and then if you pick the ball up, the count starts over once again. That's 12 seconds of nothing without a call.
LA Muskie
09-20-2015, 07:01 PM
But to some degree that's the point. It's a lot for a ballhandler to think about. And since coaches don't really want their guys "thinking" on the court -- particularly about stuff like that -- they just moved the ball. Now they won't have to.
I'm not saying that eliminating the rule is a huge deal. It's not. But in a year when they made a lot of good rules modifications, this one is a head scratcher. And an unnecessary one at that.
D-West & PO-Z
09-20-2015, 07:43 PM
But to some degree that's the point. It's a lot for a ballhandler to think about. And since coaches don't really want their guys "thinking" on the court -- particularly about stuff like that -- they just moved the ball. Now they won't have to.
I'm not saying that eliminating the rule is a huge deal. It's not. But in a year when they made a lot of good rules modifications, this one is a head scratcher. And an unnecessary one at that.
Hopefully it will be one last thing for the refs to think about as well and make the game better officiated overall. Who knows. I dont think this rule change will make the game feel any different. I dont really think the offensive player passed the ball or moved the ball to not get 5 seconds I think the player just moved. I dont think we will see any less ball movement bc of this rule.
I dont care one way or another for the rule. I guess it does stink to not reward good defense/bad enough offense to get it called but I dont think we will see too much affect on the game.
PM Thor
09-21-2015, 07:37 PM
But to some degree that's the point. It's a lot for a ballhandler to think about. And since coaches don't really want their guys "thinking" on the court -- particularly about stuff like that -- they just moved the ball. Now they won't have to.
I'm not saying that eliminating the rule is a huge deal. It's not. But in a year when they made a lot of good rules modifications, this one is a head scratcher. And an unnecessary one at that.
Like I said before, the 5 second rule needed clarification, not elimination. To get rid of the rule isn't the way to go.
Kahns Krazy
09-21-2015, 10:40 PM
I think you guys are exaggerating the impact of the 5 second count a little bit. Do you know how easy it was to get a new count, especially in end of half or end of game situations? One jab step by the guy with the ball and defender gets far enough away and the count restarts. At the end of half and end of game the defense is sagging a little anyway.
But you at least had to be dribbling to move your feet. Now if you cross the timeline with the shot clock off and the lead, just cross your arms over the ball and stand there, right? Defense has no chance to get the ball out of your arms if you don't have to dribble it. It seems like it takes a lot of the pressure out of a good trap, too. You can hold the ball until one of your teammates has time to come bail you out.
D-West & PO-Z
09-21-2015, 10:46 PM
But you at least had to be dribbling to move your feet. Now if you cross the timeline with the shot clock off and the lead, just cross your arms over the ball and stand there, right? Defense has no chance to get the ball out of your arms if you don't have to dribble it. It seems like it takes a lot of the pressure out of a good trap, too. You can hold the ball until one of your teammates has time to come bail you out.
I think in theory that could now happen but I doubt it will. I could be wrong but I dont think we will notice any change. Guys still arent going to feel comfortable when pressured like that on D and will look to move the ball imo. Like I said maybe I am wrong but I dont foresee a lot of difference.
XUFan09
09-21-2015, 11:46 PM
I think in theory that could now happen but I doubt it will. I could be wrong but I dont think we will notice any change. Guys still arent going to feel comfortable when pressured like that on D and will look to move the ball imo. Like I said maybe I am wrong but I dont foresee a lot of difference.
Remember that they currently move the ball because the coaches have told them to. In end-game situations with a lead, coaches are going to now tell them to just get it across half-court and clutch the ball tight, because that's far and away the best strategy for avoiding a turnover.
Coaches are a high-strung, obsessive lot. They are going to evaluate this closely and then drill into their players the ideal strategy.
D-West & PO-Z
09-21-2015, 11:54 PM
Remember that they currently move the ball because the coaches have told them to. In end-game situations with a lead, coaches are going to now tell them to just get it across half-court and clutch the ball tight, because that's far and away the best strategy for avoiding a turnover.
Coaches are a high-strung, obsessive lot. They are going to evaluate this closely and then drill into their players the ideal strategy.
Seems like the D has to foul in those situations anyway. Guess it depends on the amount of time left in the game but usually if the press doesnt work and it gets across halfcourt then its a foul. I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
XUFan09
09-22-2015, 12:30 AM
Seems like the D has to foul in those situations anyway. Guess it depends on the amount of time left in the game but usually if the press doesnt work and it gets across halfcourt then its a foul. I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
I can remember times just in Xavier games this past season alone when the foul didn't come right away as extra time was taken to attempt to force a turnover, sometimes successfully.
Also, you have to remember the half-court trap, one of the common ways to try to force a turnover, doesn't occur until after crossing the half-court. The ball-handler can't go back and really can't go forward if defenders are positioned right, and one of the main ways the pressure works is that he's on a timer for passing the ball. If that timer isn't there, the trap is neutered, because with a little extra time, a gap in the defense will form for a patient ball-handler.
Denver Muskie
09-22-2015, 09:38 AM
Does the rule eliminate the 5 second closely guarded call when the offensive player is holding the ball? I'm ok with eliminating the call when dribbling but I can't believe they would get rid of it when just standing there with the ball or when trapped.
D-West & PO-Z
09-22-2015, 01:20 PM
I can remember times just in Xavier games this past season alone when the foul didn't come right away as extra time was taken to attempt to force a turnover, sometimes successfully.
Also, you have to remember the half-court trap, one of the common ways to try to force a turnover, doesn't occur until after crossing the half-court. The ball-handler can't go back and really can't go forward if defenders are positioned right, and one of the main ways the pressure works is that he's on a timer for passing the ball. If that timer isn't there, the trap is neutered, because with a little extra time, a gap in the defense will form for a patient ball-handler.
Yeah good point, I think the trap is where you will see the new rule have the most negative affect.
casualfan
10-01-2015, 04:02 PM
Welp...
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 10m10 minutes ago
Two consistent themes I've seen at every program I've visited with this year: 1. More zone in practice 2. More token pressure in practice
coasterville95
11-15-2015, 12:53 AM
Along with all the changes to the men's game, we seemed to miss the drastic changes to the women's game.
Women now play 4 10 minute quarters. There is one media time out per quarter, first dead ball under. 5 minutes.
Team fouls reset to zero at the start of each quarter, personal fouls do not. Still a limit of 5 per player.
But, the Bonus is different! They get the bonus after 5 team fouls HOWEVER every foul is a 2 shot foul (like double bonus in the men's game) and there are no 1&1 fouls. The scoreboard stops tracking team fouls after 5.
Imagine those changes in the men's game.
Cheesehead
11-15-2015, 01:34 AM
Along with all the changes to the men's game, we seemed to miss the drastic changes to the women's game.
Women now play 4 10 minute quarters. There is one media time out per quarter, first dead ball under. 5 minutes.
Team fouls reset to zero at the start of each quarter, personal fouls do not. Still a limit of 5 per player.
But, the Bonus is different! They get the bonus after 5 team fouls HOWEVER every foul is a 2 shot foul (like double bonus in the men's game) and there are no 1&1 fouls. The scoreboard stops tracking team fouls after 5.
Imagine those changes in the men's game.
Watched women's double header today and I can say it was odd. I talked to former XU women's Asst AD and she could not really explain reasons for the changes.
paulxu
11-15-2015, 07:36 AM
and she could not really explain reasons for the changes.
=NCAA definition.
X-band '01
11-15-2015, 08:59 AM
Along with all the changes to the men's game, we seemed to miss the drastic changes to the women's game.
Women now play 4 10 minute quarters. There is one media time out per quarter, first dead ball under. 5 minutes.
Team fouls reset to zero at the start of each quarter, personal fouls do not. Still a limit of 5 per player.
But, the Bonus is different! They get the bonus after 5 team fouls HOWEVER every foul is a 2 shot foul (like double bonus in the men's game) and there are no 1&1 fouls. The scoreboard stops tracking team fouls after 5.
Imagine those changes in the men's game.
It's more in line with the WNBA with the quarters and fouls.
bjf123
11-15-2015, 10:36 AM
One thing I noticed in the men's game. A number of times as either team was bringing the ball up court, the ball handler would notice the shot clock approaching 25 seconds and rush to get across mid court. They hadn't quite adjusted to the fact that they now have until 20 seconds with the shorter shot clock starting at 30, not 35.
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coasterville95
11-15-2015, 11:26 AM
That will come with time. But still when you have 25 burned into your brain, it's like muscle memory or a bad habit. Hard to change.
X-band '01
11-15-2015, 01:58 PM
One thing I noticed in the men's game. A number of times as either team was bringing the ball up court, the ball handler would notice the shot clock approaching 25 seconds and rush to get across mid court. They hadn't quite adjusted to the fact that they now have until 20 seconds with the shorter shot clock starting at 30, not 35.
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You also have to keep in mind that the 10-second count does not reset anymore (although it's not your main point). Players need to remember that as well.
usfldan
11-15-2015, 03:18 PM
Along with all the changes to the men's game, we seemed to miss the drastic changes to the women's game.
Women now play 4 10 minute quarters. There is one media time out per quarter, first dead ball under. 5 minutes.
Team fouls reset to zero at the start of each quarter, personal fouls do not. Still a limit of 5 per player.
But, the Bonus is different! They get the bonus after 5 team fouls HOWEVER every foul is a 2 shot foul (like double bonus in the men's game) and there are no 1&1 fouls. The scoreboard stops tracking team fouls after 5.
Imagine those changes in the men's game.
They also added the worst rule ever in the women's game- they can advance the ball on time outs in the final minute.
I like the change in the going straight to two-shot fouls. I've always thought it was silly there were just those three fouls that were 1-and-1 (fouls 7, 8, and 9). I feel like those were left in there as a comprise when they added two-shot fouls at 10, and now that we're 20-years later and see that two-shot fouls haven't ruined the game, it's time to just drop those three random fouls.
I also hope the length of the media timeouts was simply because the games were televised. The teams were on the court ready to play before even the first horn in most cases.
coasterville95
11-15-2015, 03:48 PM
Well, they are media time outs. For those that watched on TV, did they have any special Lauren Hill stud on TV to justify the long media breaks?
D-West & PO-Z
11-15-2015, 04:47 PM
So the womens college game is more like the NBA than the mens game?
I tend to prefer the NBA rules to college rules so I actually like a lot of those changes.
wkrq59
11-15-2015, 05:28 PM
Like any change, new rules will take time. When the Dukes of the world demand tweaking it will be done forthwith. I am most upset with the rabbit ears referees (and those Friday were pretty good) seem to have for Reynolds. I know he brought it on himself last season, but it is a new season. Maybe Chris has asked refs to cut Reynolds no slack but ease off a little. The X players have to stop going over the back to get offensive rebounds. I really hope X kids can calm down Tuesday and defend and move their feet.
bjf123
11-15-2015, 10:54 PM
I'm sure every team we play has something in their game plan to get in Reynolds' head and make him do something stupid.
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drudy23
11-16-2015, 12:16 PM
To me, there's simply too much stoppage in play, whether that's whistle blowing or media timeouts, or regular timeouts.
I love the college game, but the one thing that NBA is better at is keeping the acton flowing. The game is 8 minutes longer in the NBA and it usually takes about the same amount of time to finish a game. You can sit and watch an NBA game with no whistles 9-10 times down the court. I know that's the result of the shot clock some, but the refs don't blow the whistle every other time down the court, even though they probably could. You have to let some of that ticky tack stuff go.
drudy23
11-16-2015, 12:17 PM
I'm sure every team we play has something in their game plan to get in Reynolds' head and make him do something stupid.
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And they should.
bjf123
11-16-2015, 12:29 PM
You can sit and watch an NBA game with no whistles 9-10 times down the court. I know that's the result of the shot clock some, but the refs don't blow the whistle every other time down the court, even though they probably could. You have to let some of that ticky tack stuff go.
I'd be happy if they called the damned travel that happens on just about every possession in the NBA.
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nasdadjr
11-24-2015, 10:18 PM
I understand these rule changes and think they will do the game good but am I wrong thinking there needs to be balance. If your going to crack down on hand checks to clean up the path of the dribbler that is fine but putting that on top of the fact any offensive player can just drive uncontrollably in the paint and get a call every time is making defense impossible. It doesn't make sense to me to tell a defender don't use your hands or its a foul and if an offensive player slams into you cause your not using your hands it's also a foul. That is all I am seeing with this Marquette AZ st game. Am I wrong thinking this?
It's early, but strong contender for Thomas. G. Savage Memorial Runon Sentence Award.
I'm all for the changes on defensive contact, both on and off the ball. Back to basketball as skill and athleticism, away from rugby.
MADXSTER
11-24-2015, 11:01 PM
I propose a new rule... Only 5 rule changes per year instead of 30 in one year. A bit over the top IMO.
mid major
11-24-2015, 11:04 PM
It's early, but strong contender for Thomas. G. Savage Memorial Runon Sentence Award.
I'm all for the changes on defensive contact, both on and off the ball. Back to basketball as skill and athleticism, away from rugby.
So EMP, would a semicolon been enough to bail NASDADJR out?
So EMP, would a semicolon been enough to bail NASDADJR out?
Semicolon, singular? Savage and The Elements of Style would not accept that remedy. High school sophomores in my long ago classes, I would be glad if any knew what a semicolon is. This forum is graded on a curve -- a deep curve-- so no worries.
It really is a lovely sentence, in a late-season, equal parts bemused and deranged way.
XU-PA
11-25-2015, 06:30 AM
I understand these rule changes and think they will do the game good but am I wrong thinking there needs to be balance. If your going to crack down on hand checks to clean up the path of the dribbler that is fine but putting that on top of the fact any offensive player can just drive uncontrollably in the paint and get a call every time is making defense impossible. It doesn't make sense to me to tell a defender don't use your hands or its a foul and if an offensive player slams into you cause your not using your hands it's also a foul. That is all I am seeing with this Marquette AZ st game. Am I wrong thinking this?
Contender hell,,,,, that's hall of fame material!
Tardy Turtle
11-25-2015, 10:30 AM
Contender hell,,,,, that's hall of fame material!
PFFFFFT. (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?12930-Browns-Fans&p=163294#post163294)
Amateurs.
I propose a new rule... Only 5 rule changes per year instead of 30 in one year. A bit over the top IMO.
I'm sorry, your proposed rule change did not make the top 5.
I'm sorry, your proposed rule change did not make the top 5.
Well, apparently it did... (Sorry to be that guy)
nasdadjr
11-30-2015, 12:45 AM
So let's predict which official is gonna call the most fouls since we apparently go to games to see them make as many calls as possible.
Black guy with toupee 7 whistle blows with 3 multiple whistle sound calls
Old white guy with even whiter hair 14 whistle blows but no multiple whistle sounds cause he doesn't have enough breathe
Random other official... Looking to make name for himself so 10 whistle calls with 2 multiple whistle sound calls.
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