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XU-PA
08-14-2015, 07:05 AM
really,,,,,,, very sad news. McKey left after last season to join the Maryland staff.
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/08/13/xavier-player-coach-sexual-abuse-complaint/31665123/
timing wise,,,, would have been just after his hiring at Maryland
STL_XUfan
08-14-2015, 10:02 AM
Yeah, definitely not good news. Hopefully it is true that this all happened after he left Xavier. This could get really ugly if it turns out that players reports of his misconduct were ignored by someone in the administration.
Also, did Deadspin really need to use the picture where he is standing in front of a giant Xavier logo?
paulxu
08-14-2015, 11:21 AM
Surprised this story made it to a political web site.
At least he's IDed as a Maryland coach...and we're Xavier (of Cincinnati).
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/bryce-mckey-maryland-basketball-sex-abuse
LadyMuskie
08-14-2015, 02:28 PM
I'm not trying to victim-blame, but if he had already been hired at Maryland, why did the player go to his house? To me, that's just odd. It's one thing if he's the coach and summons you to his house, I guess, but if he's left your team, why go? Odd situation.
THRILLHOUSE
08-14-2015, 03:48 PM
I'm not trying to victim-blame, but if he had already been hired at Maryland, why did the player go to his house? To me, that's just odd. It's one thing if he's the coach and summons you to his house, I guess, but if he's left your team, why go? Odd situation.
Why not? Just cause he was leaving X, that doesn't mean she was supposed to cut off all contact with him. As one of her coaches, he obviously played a part in her life. She was probably thinking it would be nice to see her coach one last time before he left X. Probably didn't think when she showed up that he would be putting the moves on her.
STL_XUfan
08-14-2015, 06:21 PM
Per Twitter, he has resigned from Maryland.
LA Muskie
08-14-2015, 07:33 PM
Why not? Just cause he was leaving X, that doesn't mean she was supposed to cut off all contact with him. As one of her coaches, he obviously played a part in her life. She was probably thinking it would be nice to see her coach one last time before he left X. Probably didn't think when she showed up that he would be putting the moves on her.
This. Not only was he her coach, he recruited her. She probably thought it was a farewell. They obviously had a close relationship -- though apparently not as "close" as he seemed to "think." While we don't know all the facts, I don't think it's fair to blame her at all based on what has been reported.
LA Muskie
08-14-2015, 07:36 PM
Yeah, definitely not good news. Hopefully it is true that this all happened after he left Xavier. This could get really ugly if it turns out that players reports of his misconduct were ignored by someone in the administration.
Also, did Deadspin really need to use the picture where he is standing in front of a giant Xavier logo?
It certainly matters from a legal perspective, but it's still horrible. She is a Xavier student athlete, he was her coach and recruiter. Aside from the legal significance, I think his XU employment status at the time is of negligible import at most. And while we are only hearing one side of the story (since the university's hands are otherwise tied), her father's quotes are not flattering to the university, to say the least.
casualfan
08-15-2015, 09:45 AM
Second player has come forward:
For some reason I can't copy the link on my phone.
paulxu
08-15-2015, 10:01 AM
Here's a link. And crappy reporting. They note that this occurred "during his tenure at Xavier," when in fact both seem to have happened on the same night in May when he was already gone from X and on board at Maryland.
http://www.swishappeal.com/2015/8/14/9152145/another-player-accuses-bryce-mckey-of-sexual-abuse
X-band '01
08-15-2015, 10:42 AM
Washington Post coverage (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/terrapins-insider/wp/2015/08/14/bryce-mckey-resigns-as-terps-womens-basketball-assistant-after-pleading-not-guilty-to-sexual-abuse-charge/)
This article also points out that the allegations regarding the 2nd player are ongoing as part of a felony investigation. That is certainly not a good sign for the program. At this point, you really have to wonder how much else has been going on.
LadyMuskie
08-15-2015, 12:47 PM
Washington Post coverage (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/terrapins-insider/wp/2015/08/14/bryce-mckey-resigns-as-terps-womens-basketball-assistant-after-pleading-not-guilty-to-sexual-abuse-charge/)
This article also points out that the allegations regarding the 2nd player are ongoing as part of a felony investigation. That is certainly not a good sign for the program. At this point, you really have to wonder how much else has been going on.
I think the attorney for the players brings up an important point. The NCAA probably should have rules in place about the kind of contact players have with coaches, professors, trainers, etc. outside of the normal practice or class times. For example, it should probably be forbidden that a coach be allowed to contact a player and invite said player to his home, out to dinner, out for drinks, etc. when the rest of the team is not present. There should be no one on one contact between a player and an adult employed by the university outside of normal practice and/or office hours. As an adult, I'd set these rules up for myself in any event just to avoid the appearance of impropriety regardless of what my intentions were.
As a volunteer at my daughter's Catholic school, the rules set up by the archdiocese are clear - I'm to have no one on one contact with the other children at the school in my capacity as a volunteer. In my role as a coach or girl scout leader, I cannot transport another child without prior written consent from the child's parents and can not transport that child alone, I cannot give gifts to a child unless I give a gift to all of the children, etc. etc. When my husband coaches an all-girl team in our school's league, he has to have an assistant who is a female and vice versa for an all-boy team. At the school, we cannot be in a room with the door closed with the children without another adult present - even if we are there to assist the teacher in some capacity.
It's annoying to have these rules and have to sit through child/sex abuse classes, etc. because we know we would never do anything to hurt a child. Unfortunately, however, there are people out there who would and while these rules won't eliminate bad people or prevent all bad things from happening, it at least helps other parents to know when something is amiss as well as giving people a sense that something is being done to protect the students.
Cheesehead
08-22-2015, 04:40 PM
You can thank all those sick bastard priests for our current rules and you can also thank our former archbishop for passing the pedophiles around from parish to parish.
paulxu
04-11-2016, 04:16 PM
Not guilty.
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/04/11/judge-former-xavier-coach-not-guilty-sex-abuse/82894894/
GoMuskies
04-11-2016, 04:47 PM
Not guilty.
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/04/11/judge-former-xavier-coach-not-guilty-sex-abuse/82894894/
Congrats to the ex-coach, I suppose, but how could anyone make the following statement with a straight face:
"The judge also found there was no evidence McKey knew the woman was under 21 years old."
Huh?!? This guy recruited the player since middle school and was her fucking college basketball coach, but there's no evidence he knew she was under 21?!?
paulxu
04-11-2016, 05:15 PM
I couldn't figure out what "21" had to do with anything. Isn't 18 the age that would be critical to those sorts of allegations.
GoMuskies
04-11-2016, 05:16 PM
One of the charges was providing alcohol to a minor (under 21).
paulxu
04-11-2016, 05:18 PM
Gotcha.
OH.X.MI
04-11-2016, 05:26 PM
One of the charges was providing alcohol to a minor (under 21).
And it seems strange that knowledge should even matter. I was under the impression that it was a misdemeanor to serve a minor regardless of whether you know their age, but maybe that's just for establishments with liquor licenses?
XU 87
04-11-2016, 05:30 PM
Congrats to the ex-coach, I suppose, but how could anyone make the following statement with a straight face:
"The judge also found there was no evidence McKey knew the woman was under 21 years old."
Huh?!? This guy recruited the player since middle school and was her fucking college basketball coach, but there's no evidence he knew she was under 21?!?
My guess is that "there was no evidence presented by the prosecution at trial that McKey knew she wasn't 21." As you know, the judge has to go with the evidence presented at trial.
GoMuskies
04-11-2016, 05:42 PM
That's a pretty lousy job by the prosecutor, then. I suppose the prosecutor didn't really give a shit about that charge anyway.
paulxu
04-11-2016, 06:47 PM
Maybe they can ship him across the river to handle JP's case.
My guess is that "there was no evidence presented by the prosecution at trial that McKey knew she wasn't 21." As you know, the judge has to go with the evidence presented at trial.
Sounds about right, but I'm surprised that actual knowledge of the "victim" being under 21 is an element of proof for that crime.
Cheesehead
04-12-2016, 10:28 AM
The whole case seemed weak to me.
nuts4xu
04-12-2016, 11:23 AM
Sounds about right, but I'm surprised that actual knowledge of the "victim" being under 21 is an element of proof for that crime.
Case of plausible deniability? Or just willfully ignorant by the coach?
MADXSTER
04-12-2016, 12:37 PM
The whole case seemed weak to me.
I thought the same thing......Did he cross the line, probably. But I'm not thinking it should be a chargable offense.
I'm glad that she left and things did not escalte to create a much worse scenario.
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