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D-West & PO-Z
05-28-2015, 12:49 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/insider/post?id=5033
XU comes in at #27:
27. Xavier Musketeers
Projected starting lineup: G Myles Davis, SG Remy Abell, F J.P. Macura, F Trevon Bluiett, C Jalen Reynolds
Chris Mack will need to replace Matt Stainbrook down low and also point guard Dee Davis but he has enough depth to do so. Don’t be shocked if redshirt freshman Edmond Sumner winds up cracking the starting group at some point.
Other notables:
Nova #13
Michigan #15
Butler #23
UDump #25
sUCks #29
Georgetown #35
Ohio St #45
Providence #50
xufan2434
05-28-2015, 12:51 PM
JP cracking the starting 5.. Didn't see that coming
Xville
05-28-2015, 01:09 PM
In order for this team to be successful, someone else other than Myles is going to have to step up to be our starting PG...whether it's Larry or Sumner, and Farr, London or O'Mara are going to have to be successful on the inside.
GoMuskies
05-28-2015, 01:14 PM
Where does he rank potential Orlando opponent Wichita State?
D-West & PO-Z
05-28-2015, 01:19 PM
Where does he rank potential Orlando opponent Wichita State?
#9
Some other local teams/teams of interest:
IU #11
Gonzaga #12
Arizona # 16
Purdue #22
Louisville #28
X-Fan
05-28-2015, 01:45 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/insider/post?id=5033
XU comes in at #27:
27. Xavier Musketeers
Projected starting lineup: G Myles Davis, SG Remy Abell, F J.P. Macura, F Trevon Bluiett, C Jalen Reynolds
Chris Mack will need to replace Matt Stainbrook down low and also point guard Dee Davis but he has enough depth to do so. Don’t be shocked if redshirt freshman Edmond Sumner winds up cracking the starting group at some point.
Other notables:
Nova #13
Michigan #15
Butler #23
UDump #25
sUCks #29
Georgetown #35
Ohio St #45
Providence #50
JP cracking the starting 5.. Didn't see that coming
I still don't see Farr losing his starting spot, at least not initially.
MuskieXU
05-28-2015, 02:09 PM
I still don't see Farr losing his starting spot, at least not initially.
Agreed. I think JP is better coming off the bench until he becomes a little better all around player.
D-West & PO-Z
05-28-2015, 02:18 PM
I still don't see Farr losing his starting spot, at least not initially.
Agree, I see Bluiett, Farr, and Reynolds as locks for starting spots (unless Mack still like Jalen off the bench). I see Remy, Myles, Larry, and Sumner as the 4 for the other two spots, my guess being Larry (at least initially) and Myles.
Xville
05-28-2015, 02:55 PM
Agree, I see Bluiett, Farr, and Reynolds as locks for starting spots (unless Mack still like Jalen off the bench). I see Remy, Myles, Larry, and Sumner as the 4 for the other two spots, my guess being Larry (at least initially) and Myles.
Agreed. We need more balance than what Goodman projects as the starting five...JP, Myles, Remy...two of those guys in my opinion need to be coming off the bench....probably JP and Remy.
GoMuskies
05-28-2015, 02:58 PM
I'm sure the lineup will evolve over the course of the season. Hell, I was reminded yesterday that Brandon Randolph started and played 39 minutes in our win at home over Tennessee last year (game #2 of the season).
D-West & PO-Z
05-28-2015, 02:59 PM
I'm sure the lineup will evolve over the course of the season. Hell, I was reminded yesterday that Brandon Randolph started and played 39 minutes in our win at home over Tennessee last year (game #2 of the season).
Very true, it always does. Seems like this year even more than most we have a lot of possible options at many positions.
bleedXblue
05-28-2015, 03:08 PM
Yes lots of options next year but disappointed we couldn't nab a 5th year guy for PG or PF depth. With Jaylen's tendency to foul we have no other inside presence. PG scares me too. If Sumner isn't healthy we have to rely on Austin.
XUFan09
05-28-2015, 04:32 PM
Yes lots of options next year but disappointed we couldn't nab a 5th year guy for PG or PF depth. With Jaylen's tendency to foul we have no other inside presence. PG scares me too. If Sumner isn't healthy we have to rely on Austin.
If London or Gates is ready to play respectable minutes, I'm not too concerned. The "traditional" frontcourts that Xavier has been putting out there the past two seasons have been more the exception than the rule in college basketball. Of course, throwing Trevon at the 4 is just the opposite extreme, but someone like London/Gates is fairly normal at the 4, and you have Farr/Reynolds/O'Mara able to play the 5 along with the 4.
Essentially, Xavier needs to find the pieces of their usual four-big rotation. They have three in Farr, Reynolds, and O'Mara, and they just need to determine the fourth.
drudy23
05-28-2015, 05:01 PM
I don't agree...JP is better now and has far more upside.
D-West & PO-Z
05-28-2015, 05:09 PM
I don't agree...JP is better now and has far more upside.
Better than who now?
drudy23
05-28-2015, 11:35 PM
Farr...as most say he deserves the starting spot over JP. I wholeheartedly disagree.
Farr can be an assist if he gets his butt back in the paint and works the boards and does the dirty work on O and D.
Farr...as most say he deserves the starting spot over JP. I wholeheartedly disagree.
Farr can be an assist if he gets his butt back in the paint and works the boards and does the dirty work on O and D.
I agree that JP has a higher ceiling, but he doesn't compete directly with Farr for minutes. Game situations may dictate going big or small with lineups, but JP and Farr have different skill sets. JP is in trouble if he has to guard a 4 or 5, and Farr would please me to no end if he stayed in the paint and just filed that 3 point shot under "Things I Used to Do".
D-West & PO-Z
05-29-2015, 10:44 AM
Farr...as most say he deserves the starting spot over JP. I wholeheartedly disagree.
Farr can be an assist if he gets his butt back in the paint and works the boards and does the dirty work on O and D.
Well of course JP has higher upside, he is a soph and Farr a senior, but they dont really compete for the same minutes as '82 said. Also Farr is our best rebounder by far. I also think Farr is going to be the next Sr at XU to have a big year and go out as a beloved Muskie. He has gotten better each year and I expect him to be a big time contributor next year.
BandAid
05-29-2015, 10:52 AM
Farr's rebounding is so good. I'd be more than happy if he just plants himself in the paint on both ends, grabs boards, and sticks to put backs. Count me in the "Farr starting" camp.
xufan2434
05-29-2015, 11:27 AM
I do think Farr will have a solid year coming up. Not to mention, Jalen does get in a lot of foul trouble. There's going to be plenty of times where he's the only big guy with the 4 guard lineup. I like JP off the bench. Instant offense, similar to Jamal Crawford for the Clippers.
Hopefully his foot speed and defense improves... Love his offense.
Muskie
05-29-2015, 12:10 PM
It's awfully early in the summer for the man crushes on JP. If they are this strong now, what will they be like in Oct/Nov.
XUFan09
05-29-2015, 12:25 PM
Macura is our very own BYU.
Muskie
05-29-2015, 12:35 PM
Macura is our very own BYU.
Truer words have never been spoken.
blueblob06
05-29-2015, 01:18 PM
Macura is our very own BYU.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Just think if Macura played for BYU. They'd have Bye's all the way to the Final 4.
ArizonaXUGrad
05-29-2015, 02:42 PM
This issue will be discussed more for game specific situations. I think we are all forgetting O'Mara as a space eater and London as a more athletic PF. Both of which will also be on that bench.
xuwin
05-30-2015, 10:31 AM
I think O'Mara is going to be a much bigger contributor than posters are giving him credit for.
I think O'Mara is going to be a much bigger contributor than posters are giving him credit for.
I was thinking the same thing. He seemed very solid in his minutes last season. A year of playing with and against Stainbrook had to be a good learning experience, too.
XU Cowbell Kid
06-02-2015, 07:02 PM
I think O'Mara is going to be a much bigger contributor than posters are giving him credit for.
There was a solid stretch in the middle of the season where pretty much every time he touched the ball, he would work his way in, get position, and score. That is the first time in a very long time that we have had that from a big man. Generally speaking, big men are very underwhelming in their first year unless they are some sort of stud recruit. O'Mara was on top of his game though. I'm excited to see how he develops.
MADXSTER
06-03-2015, 09:20 AM
I think O'Mara is going to be a much bigger contributor than posters are giving him credit for.
I agree with this as well.
Olsingledigit
06-03-2015, 12:53 PM
Sean played very well at times last year and as mentioned it has to have been a real education to have a year with the Big Stain. I am sure that Matt passed on whatever tricks he could. Sean is a similar player to Matt but with more mobility and plenty of strength. I would not be surprised to see him start at center so that we have a true center in the game. Since it is crowded underneath (Tre', JR, James) but I still would not be surprised if JR sat the bench to open the game for the same reason as last year - keep him from getting a foul or two before the game settles in.
birdman71
06-03-2015, 01:32 PM
Sean is the guy who went head to head in the 2014 Illinois State semis against Ohkafor and put up better numbers. I suspect we'll see a lot more from him this year.
Juice
06-03-2015, 02:13 PM
Sean is the guy who went head to head in the 2014 Illinois State semis against Ohkafor and put up better numbers. I suspect we'll see a lot more from him this year.
State championship
smileyy
06-03-2015, 02:24 PM
Sean is a similar player to Matt but with more mobility and plenty of strength.
I don't know that anyone is really a similar player to Stainbrook in terms of court vision and passing. He was in the 99th percentile among big men in the NCAA with those skills. If he can end up with some of Stainbrook's high efficiency, that'll be a huge win.
That said, what I've seen of O'Mara tells me that he's going to be strong, with moves and touch near the basket. I'm optimistic for what he can bring next year and in the years to come.
I would be very surprised to see him start at center. I'm not sure the focus on the "true center" concept. I'm also not sure what doesn't make James Farr a "true center"?
paulxu
06-03-2015, 04:02 PM
Heck, we could have a platoon system.
C - O'Mara and Farr
4 - Reynolds and London
3 - Bluiett and Gates
2 - Abell, Davis and Macura
1 - Sumner and Austin
I'd love to watch these guys just practice against each other.
gladdenguy
06-03-2015, 09:37 PM
Heck, we could have a platoon system.
C - O'Mara and Farr
4 - Reynolds and London
3 - Bluiett and Gates
2 - Abell, Davis and Macura
1 - Sumner and Austin
I'd love to watch these guys just practice against each other.
I'm really excited to see the 3 newcomers (Gates, London, and Sumner). Next year should be fun with all the talent Mack has accumulated.
Not to mention the confidence Jalen and Myles Davis experienced. I'm getting too excited for June.
Cheesehead
06-04-2015, 11:10 AM
I'm really excited to see the 3 newcomers (Gates, London, and Sumner). Next year should be fun with all the talent Mack has accumulated.
Not to mention the confidence Jalen and Myles Davis experienced. I'm getting too excited for June.
This is way too positive thinking by Gladdenguy. Mods, please check to see if Gladden Guy's account has been hacked.
X-band '01
06-04-2015, 12:10 PM
If he starts praising Fr. Graham or Ohio State, then I'd be concerned.
bleedXblue
06-04-2015, 12:54 PM
I'm really excited to see the 3 newcomers (Gates, London, and Sumner). Next year should be fun with all the talent Mack has accumulated.
Not to mention the confidence Jalen and Myles Davis experienced. I'm getting too excited for June.
Don't bother on the summer league games anymore. They aren't well managed, you never know who's playing and it just seems like X had better participation 5-7 years ago.
gladdenguy
06-04-2015, 10:09 PM
If he starts praising Fr. Graham or Ohio State, then I'd be concerned.
This would be an accurate statement. Then you would know for sure I've been hacked.
Olsingledigit
06-05-2015, 10:45 PM
I don't know that anyone is really a similar player to Stainbrook in terms of court vision and passing. He was in the 99th percentile among big men in the NCAA with those skills. If he can end up with some of Stainbrook's high efficiency, that'll be a huge win.
That said, what I've seen of O'Mara tells me that he's going to be strong, with moves and touch near the basket. I'm optimistic for what he can bring next year and in the years to come.
I would be very surprised to see him start at center. I'm not sure the focus on the "true center" concept. I'm also not sure what doesn't make James Farr a "true center"?
You are right on Stain's passing and court sense. That will be sorely missed. However, there were some games where Stain was overmatched and didn't play much, yet we did well. I am thinking that Sean's athletic ability might wash with Stain's other attributes. I hope!
Juice
06-05-2015, 10:49 PM
You are right on Stain's passing and court sense. That will be sorely missed. However, there were some games where Stain was overmatched and didn't play much, yet we did well. I am thinking that Sean's athletic ability might wash with Stain's other attributes. I hope!
I think everyone underrates Jalen's post passing. Also, O'Mara is more mobile than Stainbrook but it's not like he's fleet of foot. Have you seen the cankles on that kid?
nasdadjr
06-16-2015, 08:53 PM
I think myles is sixth man getting 22 to 25 minutes a game and Sumner starts at point but way to early to tell
nasdadjr
06-16-2015, 08:55 PM
I think omara is not very good at all and gets limited to zero pt but he is just a kid and if he improves his cement feet he could be okay
nasdadjr
06-16-2015, 09:00 PM
To Paul xu. I think your lineups are a little off but not by much. I think blueitt is a 4 for the mismatches he can create. I also think this is the lineup right now
1. Sumner Austin ( coin toss who starts)
2. Macura, Davis
3. Abell gates
4. Blueitt ( Farr and London reynolds switch in)
5. Reynolds ( Farr London omara possibilities)
Davis would play some point as well and still get 22 to 25 min a game
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