Florida going after Mack?

[OH.X.MI]

Now that this is over, I have a question unrelated to Mack. After looking at the 909 returns, I noticed that the school does not list Fr. Grahm's salary. Anyone have idea how priest presidents of Catholic universities are compensated? Of course a priest isn't in it for the money, but I'm curious. According to the below link a priest who's been active for 60 years in the Archdiocese of Cincinnati earns about $42k a year. Is it safe to say someone like Fr. Grahm earns more? I don't need to no an exact figure but just wondering how that works generally if anyone knows.

http://www.catholiccincinnati.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Active-Priest-Salary.pdf

[MADXSTER]

I remember once reading that John Calhoun was the highest paid public employee in the state of Connecticut.

I would think that OSU coaches would be up there in Ohio.

[NY44]

The bottom line is that Xavier is less of a stepping stone than it once was and is heading in the right direction. Fewer schools will come calling than in the past and that is a good thing.

Completely ignored by the Xavier faithful is that the upcoming season will be Mack's 7th. Which will make his tenure the second longest in Xavier history.

I know Miller hurt you guys, but it's ok to love again.

[ammtd34]

Now that this is over, I have a question unrelated to Mack. After looking at the 909 returns, I noticed that the school does not list Fr. Grahm's salary. Anyone have idea how priest presidents of Catholic universities are compensated? Of course a priest isn't in it for the money, but I'm curious. According to the below link a priest who's been active for 60 years in the Archdiocese of Cincinnati earns about $42k a year. Is it safe to say someone like Fr. Grahm earns more? I don't need to no an exact figure but just wondering how that works generally if anyone knows.

http://www.catholiccincinnati.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Active-Priest-Salary.pdf

I suppose it could depend on whether their order takes a vow of poverty. DePaul's president made $816,608 in 2012.

[X-man]

Now that this is over, I have a question unrelated to Mack. After looking at the 909 returns, I noticed that the school does not list Fr. Grahm's salary. Anyone have idea how priest presidents of Catholic universities are compensated? Of course a priest isn't in it for the money, but I'm curious. According to the below link a priest who's been active for 60 years in the Archdiocese of Cincinnati earns about $42k a year. Is it safe to say someone like Fr. Grahm earns more? I don't need to no an exact figure but just wondering how that works generally if anyone knows.

http://www.catholiccincinnati.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Active-Priest-Salary.pdf

Earlier 990's, where Graham's salary was listed, showed a salary in the $350-375K range. Not bad considering he gets his housing, meals, car expenses, and travel paid for beyond the salary.

[Muskeagle]

I doubt that Fr. Graham gets that salary. My guess is the salary goes directly to the Jesuits and Fr. Graham receives the same kind of stipend the other Jesuits receive.

[SemajParlor]

I remember once reading that John Calhoun was the highest paid public employee in the state of Connecticut.

I would think that OSU coaches would be up there in Ohio.

Yep, he got called out on it in a presser during the heart of the recession. His response was pretty great.


Still... this doesn't even come close to Calhoun's best moment in a press conference. Long live Ryan Gomes!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX6FDEDbesE

[D-West & PO-Z]

I doubt that Fr. Graham gets that salary. My guess is the salary goes directly to the Jesuits and Fr. Graham receives the same kind of stipend the other Jesuits receive.

Those would be my thoughts as well.

[paulxu]

In many states in the union, the highest paid public official is the college football or basketball coach.

In Ohio it's Urban Meyer. Here in South Carolina it's the head ball coach.

http://thefieldsofgreen.com/2014/11/24/college-coaches-highest-paid-public-employees-nick-saban-john-calipari-bob-stoops-mark-dantonio/

[ArizonaXUGrad]

In Az it's Miller. He is higher than Rich Rod and whatever the guy's name is at ASU. I should know and am too lazy to look it up but he is better than Rich Rod.


In many states in the union, the highest paid public official is the college football or basketball coach.

In Ohio it's Urban Meyer. Here in South Carolina it's the head ball coach.

http://thefieldsofgreen.com/2014/11/24/college-coaches-highest-paid-public-employees-nick-saban-john-calipari-bob-stoops-mark-dantonio/

[paulxu]

Well, this list is a year or so old.

[Masterofreality]

I'm sorry LA, but this is a cop out. Every source out there had archie and Mack as the top 2 marks for the job. Everybody. Like it's been said, a program won't just "offer" a job to a coach, especially knowing that they have a big percentage to get shot down. As with every opening, there is a ton of backroom, secret talks. Did that happen with Mack? Or archie? No, probably not, because both probably cut them off at the pass. But saying that they weren't offered the job as an reason why they didn't take the job simply doesn't hold water. They probably were asked their interest, and their interest wasn't there. Probably.

Here's the perfect tweet to that effect:

@TomEggemeier: @GoodmanESPN No contact? And I have a bridge to sell you. Of course Foley did not reach out to Archie or Mack, but intermediaries likely did & were rejected.

I believe that to be the case here. There was no "offer" but a couple of days of contact checking the interest of both sides. I also believe that there was not an immediate rejection, but one that came not to long after the first contact, hence the uncertainty for a day or so.

[LA Muskie]

Earlier 990's, where Graham's salary was listed, showed a salary in the $350-375K range. Not bad considering he gets his housing, meals, car expenses, and travel paid for beyond the salary.

That's probably all included in the 990 since all d those fringe benefits are taxable income.

[LA Muskie]

Thor,

I'm not sure to what post you were referring because it has disappeared. But here's the way I think it probably happened:

FL Rep: So, we're not offering Chris the job of course, but if we did offer him the job, what would it take?
Mack Rep: At least $3 mm
FL Rep: Hold on...

FL Rep: So, we're not offering Archie the job of course, but if we did offer him the job, what would it take?
Archie Rep: At least $3 mm
FL Rep: Hold on...

Foley: Someone get Mike White on the line! And get me someone else while I'm waiting!

Seriously, though, what I'm hearing is that there was initial interest on the part of Mack (and Miller), but that it was less than folks expected it would be. He wasn't blown away by the opportunity by any stretch, so it became a money thing pretty quickly -- he wasn't going to leave unless they made him a financial offer he simply couldn't refuse. And they didn't.'

So in the end it really did come down to money. And yes, that does surprise me a bit. More so that FL didn't put it on the table.

[blobfan]

...Seriously, though, what I'm hearing is that there was initial interest on the part of Mack (and Miller), but that it was less than folks expected it would be. He wasn't blown away by the opportunity by any stretch, so it became a money thing pretty quickly -- he wasn't going to leave unless they made him a financial offer he simply couldn't refuse. And they didn't.'

So in the end it really did come down to money. And yes, that does surprise me a bit. More so that FL didn't put it on the table.

I hear things too but I don't post them because the voices tell me not to.

[LA Muskie]

I hear things too but I don't post them because the voices tell me not to.
Good to know. Thanks. Thanks for your input.

[GoMuskies]

What exactly are we doing here now? Are people who wanted Mack to stay now insulted that Florida may not have been interested?!?

[markchal]

What exactly are we doing here now? Are people who wanted Mack to stay now insulted that Florida may not have been interested?!?

I can't speak for everyone, but what I'm doing here is painfully counting down the minutes until next season starts.

[XU 87]

Thor,

I'm not sure to what post you were referring because it has disappeared. But here's the way I think it probably happened:

FL Rep: So, we're not offering Chris the job of course, but if we did offer him the job, what would it take?
Mack Rep: At least $3 mm
FL Rep: Hold on...

FL Rep: So, we're not offering Archie the job of course, but if we did offer him the job, what would it take?
Archie Rep: At least $3 mm
FL Rep: Hold on...

Foley: Someone get Mike White on the line! And get me someone else while I'm waiting!

Seriously, though, what I'm hearing is that there was initial interest on the part of Mack (and Miller), but that it was less than folks expected it would be. He wasn't blown away by the opportunity by any stretch, so it became a money thing pretty quickly -- he wasn't going to leave unless they made him a financial offer he simply couldn't refuse. And they didn't.'

So in the end it really did come down to money. And yes, that does surprise me a bit. More so that FL didn't put it on the table.

I think that's a fair analysis of what likely took place.

[XUFan09]

In Az it's Miller. He is higher than Rich Rod and whatever the guy's name is at ASU. I should know and am too lazy to look it up but he is better than Rich Rod.
Bobby Hurley replaced Herb Sendek.

[GoMuskies]

Bobby Hurley replaced Herb Sendek.

I think he meant Todd Graham.

[xavierj]

What exactly are we doing here now? Are people who wanted Mack to stay now insulted that Florida may not have been interested?!?

They were interested or they would not have reached out to him, which they did. Now not sure how interested but either he said no thanks or they couldn't meet the money it would take. I think Chris wants to be here and likes being here more than some give him credit. I think he feels he can win big over the next few years with his current and potential future roster. I also think he has a lot of close friends here as well as a level of comfort for his family. I don't think he thought much about wanting to live in Gainsville.

[XUFan09]

I think he meant Todd Graham.

Ah ok. Yeah, I don't really pay attention to college football.

[xubrew]

Here's the perfect tweet to that effect:

@TomEggemeier: @GoodmanESPN No contact? And I have a bridge to sell you. Of course Foley did not reach out to Archie or Mack, but intermediaries likely did & were rejected.

I believe that to be the case here. There was no "offer" but a couple of days of contact checking the interest of both sides. I also believe that there was not an immediate rejection, but one that came not to long after the first contact, hence the uncertainty for a day or so.

I like how all the media speculated one thing and then when it didn't happen they find a way to say everyone else is clueless.

FWIW, I do think Mike White was Florida's top choice all along. It makes sense to think that he wasn't and that Mack or Archie Miller were preferred. But, for whatever reason, I think Florida actually did prefer Mike White. That wouldn't have been my pick, but I do think that was their pick.

[paulxu]

Florida has more NC's in the last 10 years than Kentucky. They were in the FF last year.
I don't think there's any way in hell that Mike White was Florida's top choice all along.
Also, I have no idea what goes on in these sorts of dealings because I don't know anyone on the inside.
But I think it's a stretch to think they would not have preferred a coach who has been to the NCAA's after what Donovan built.
While I'm on a rant, why does Miller get a pass. Even now someone slides the brawl into an article on Mack as if he was solely to blame and has to carry that baggage around.
How about Miller and his basketball players stealing money from students on campus? Or his strength coach being in a DUI crash where someone died?
Never hear about those things.

[xudash]

Florida has more NC's in the last 10 years than Kentucky. They were in the FF last year.
I don't think there's any way in hell that Mike White was Florida's top choice all along.
Also, I have no idea what goes on in these sorts of dealings because I don't know anyone on the inside.
But I think it's a stretch to think they would not have preferred a coach who has been to the NCAA's after what Donovan built.
While I'm on a rant, why does Miller get a pass. Even now someone slides the brawl into an article on Mack as if he was solely to blame and has to carry that baggage around.
How about Miller and his basketball players stealing money from students on campus? Or his strength coach being in a DUI crash where someone died?
Never hear about those things.

Don't forget he reinstated the scarecrow rapist the year before.

It's one thing to get in a fight with a heated rival. It's a whole new level to recruit and play the kind of scum that UD has put on the floor recently.

[waggy]

Even now someone slides the brawl into an article on Mack as if he was solely to blame and has to carry that baggage around.


Got a link for this?

[paulxu]

One of the many articles I read about Florida considering him. Don't remember where. I'll try and find it.

[X-man]

Where's casualfan? He disappeared as soon as Mack was no longer on Florida's radar. For someone so concerned, I find it strange that he hasn't posted some relief at Mack staying.

[xudash]

http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=30594?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=wall%20post&utm_campaign=The+Search:+How+Foley+%26+Florida+Sta ff+Landed+on+Michael+White&utm_term=men's+basketball

[GoMuskies]

Huh, I has no idea his dad was Kevin White.

[94GRAD]

Where's casualfan? He disappeared as soon as Mack was no longer on Florida's radar. For someone so concerned, I find it strange that he hasn't posted some relief at Mack staying.

He'll be back and post casually.

[LA Muskie]

Huh, I has no idea his dad was Kevin White.

Sarcasm or truth? I feel like that was in the first or second sentence of every article about him.

[GoMuskies]

Sarcasm or truth? I feel like that was in the first or second sentence of every article about him.

I didn't read any of the articles about him until dash posted this one. I wasn't particularly interested in Florida or White, but I thought this article might shed some light on Mack and his interest in the job. It really didn't.

[Masterofreality]

I didn't read any of the articles about him until dash posted this one. I wasn't particularly interested in Florida or White, but I thought this article might shed some light on Mack and his interest in the job. It really didn't.

This says it all about "back channel" inquires. Everyone wants plausible deniability if they aren't the guy who gets the job.

"The names that routinely pop up when prominent jobs come open -- Dayton’s Archie Miller, Xavier’s Chris Mack, Murray State’s Steve Prohm, Villanova’s Jay Wright and, yes, White -- were a part of the initial conversations. Several others too, including internal candidates John Pelphrey and Anthony Grant. But the uncertain early stages of the process were more about simple fact-finding and the gathering intelligence to determine who might be the best fit for the UF program; the UF culture.

When Brooks was fired April 23 and the Donovan-to-OKC speculation began simultaneously, Foley and his committee took the process to the next level. That meant putting calls into various sources to get input on each name. Who was consulted? Conference commissioners and league office personnel; other coaches who may have known or worked with a guy; media types in the know. As many as 20 different sources. "

"Simple fact finding" and "gathering intelligence" isn't so simple. it also is a veiled term for direct contacts between "representatives" and not the actual guy himself. There were contacts, but the process didn't last more than two days regarding Mr. Mack.

[XfansinKy]

He'll be back and post casually.
Haha!

[xubrew]

Huh, I has no idea his dad was Kevin White.

Two years ago, LA Tech was supposed to play Duke. Duke backed out. It was quite funny.