Archie Miller musings removed from the Coaching Carousel Thread

[goldiewilson]

I think you will see Anthony Grant take over at Dayton in the future. He played there on the 80's and I know their fans wanted him before. Like someone mentioned above if cal and Donovan go pro a whole bunch of openings will open up. Should be an exciting few weeks.

Miller isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I know how badly many on here want him to, but might as well face facts now.

[X Factor]

Miller isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I know how badly many on here want him to, but might as well face facts now.

LOL. VCU fans thought Shaka wasn't going anywhere either. It doesn't matter what UD is willing to pay Archie, if a big time school offers Archie, he will be gone.

[xavierj]

Miller isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I know how badly many on here want him to, but might as well face facts now.

Uh he said in the future. Are you that naive to think he will never leave Dayton? All coaches leave. It may be next year or in five years but he will eventually leave.

[paulxu]

Why would anyone think I cared about who is coaching at Dayton?

(Factor, it's down to us in the HOH pick 'ems)

[Milhouse]

I wonder if Arch would've gone to Texas if offered...he's in an interesting position as I don't know that's he is proven enough compared to guys like Shocka/Stevens. They should have a good year next and if they make the second weekend I think he'll be one of the most coveted coaches out there. Right now he's a tier two name along with Mack.

[bleedXblue]

Archie is just waiting for the right opportunity. If you think he's staying put for any considerable amount of time, your a fool. I see several jobs opening up next year. He's not a UD guy....and who the hell would want to live there? He's just being smart and waiting it out for the right job.

[Masterofreality]

Miller isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I know how badly many on here want him to, but might as well face facts now.

By the way, one more made shot in the A10 Tournament, and you guys would not have even made the Dance this year, and you were an Aaron Craft in the paint shot away from going out in the opening round last year. Archie's security blanket Jordan Sibert is gone. Oblivion awaits.

Go out and recruit more felons. While your at it, maybe you can find more rapists you can let back into school after "dismissing" them for a year.

[xubrew]

Miller isn't going anywhere anytime soon. I know how badly many on here want him to, but might as well face facts now.

It sounds like you have no confidence that Dayton could get another good coach if Miller were to leave.

[XUFan09]

It sounds like you have no confidence that Dayton could get another good coach if Miller were to leave.
Did the same AD who hired Miller also hire Gregory and at one point give him a ridiculous contract extension from which Georgia Tech saved Dayton? Or were they different ADs?

[goldiewilson]

By the way, one more made shot in the A10 Tournament, and you guys would not have even made the Dance this year, and you were an Aaron Craft in the paint shot away from going out in the opening round last year. Archie's security blanket Jordan Sibert is gone. Oblivion awaits.

Go out and recruit more felons. While your at it, maybe you can find more rapists you can let back into school after "dismissing" them for a year.

Anyone who asserts that UD the last two years was a one man show with Sibert and now that he is gone is going to fall apart either hasn't watched UD over this time period or is foolish. Sibert was a part of UD's success, but he was just that - a PART. Dayton has four starters returning and a boatload of incoming talent. Next seasons version of the Flyers will be Archie's best team yet. If Xavier is unfortunate enough to have to play the Flyers in Orlando you will get to witness this yourself. Can you say "beatdown?" I would worry about Xavier trying to fill their holes more than I would UD.

As for the felon/rape crap, really? UD kicked the two bozos off the team, which was the right move. The Matt Kavanaugh situation was very similar to the Dez Wells situation, neither of those two raped anybody. Difference is UD let it play out in the courts and when he was found to have done nothing wrong he was allowed back on the team. Seems like I saw some on here complaining about how Xavier handled their situation and wished they had handled it like Dayton did.
I am too lazy to mention all the thug, gangsta, dog napping, phone stealing incidents Xavier has had over the years.

Miller isn't going anywhere any time soon. You guys can hope it happens all you want. Just be glad we don't play twice a year, because the Flyers would just add to our overall win total. Mack cant coach his way out of a wet paper bag. He was gifted a sweet 16 this year, facing a tired Mississippi team and then that tough #14 seed Georgia St. Impressive run, lol. Much like a few years ago when Lehigh upset Duke playing near perfect basketball to upset them, and then playing like a #15 seed against Xavier.

[xudash]

Uh he said in the future. Are you that naive to think he will never leave Dayton? All coaches leave. It may be next year or in five years but he will eventually leave.

If you're betting on timing, given that it's UD, I would slant towards one versus slanting towards 5.

It's UD.

He won't end up being as accomplished as his brother was at X, but he's at least managed to get himself on the radar by bringing up a long failing program to two years of NCAA Tournament participation, albeit by a hair as noted by MOR.

[xudash]

Anyone who asserts that UD the last two years was a one man show with Sibert and now that he is gone is going to fall apart either hasn't watched UD over this time period or is foolish. Sibert was a part of UD's success, but he was just that - a PART. Dayton has four starters returning and a boatload of incoming talent. Next seasons version of the Flyers will be Archie's best team yet. If Xavier is unfortunate enough to have to play the Flyers in Orlando you will get to witness this yourself. Can you say "beatdown?" I would worry about Xavier trying to fill their holes more than I would UD.

As for the felon/rape crap, really? UD kicked the two bozos off the team, which was the right move. The Matt Kavanaugh situation was very similar to the Dez Wells situation, neither of those two raped anybody. Difference is UD let it play out in the courts and when he was found to have done nothing wrong he was allowed back on the team. Seems like I saw some on here complaining about how Xavier handled their situation and wished they had handled it like Dayton did.
I am too lazy to mention all the thug, gangsta, dog napping, phone stealing incidents Xavier has had over the years.

Miller isn't going anywhere any time soon. You guys can hope it happens all you want. Just be glad we don't play twice a year, because the Flyers would just add to our overall win total. Mack cant coach his way out of a wet paper bag. He was gifted a sweet 16 this year, facing a tired Mississippi team and then that tough #14 seed Georgia St. Impressive run, lol. Much like a few years ago when Lehigh upset Duke playing near perfect basketball to upset them, and then playing like a #15 seed against Xavier.

I look forward to you crying soon. Archie isn't long for the Dayton sweater vest starship.

If you think nobody is watching UD to know what you have on your team, you don't sound like you're all that familiar with what Xavier has coming back.

Mack just coached his way to his THIRD S16.

I know you're frustrated because your little mid-major received a substantial amount of bad press this year by neglecting to take care of a terrible situation more promptly. And that followed a year where UD reinstated a rapist and real problem child.

Get lost. Let's see if UD can win the A10 - as watered down as it is - and make it back into the Tournament next year. UD is so far in Xavier's rear view mirror it can't be seen.

[DC Muskie]

Who was the Dayton player who said he was kidnapped and taken across the country? I always liked that story. I wonder if he blamed a white woman and really turned the table on the race thing.

[xu82]

Who was the Dayton player who said he was kidnapped and taken across the country? I always liked that story. I wonder if he blamed a white woman and really turned the table on the race thing.

Was that how he was "recruited"? That would explain a lot. Give those guys a ticket home!

[goldiewilson]

Who was the Dayton player who said he was kidnapped and taken across the country? I always liked that story. I wonder if he blamed a white woman and really turned the table on the race thing.

Was that the one who kidnapped the dog? Oh never mind, that was an X player lol.

[RealDeal]

Was that the one who kidnapped the dog? Oh never mind, that was an X player lol.

Who was that president that came after Ford?

[goldiewilson]

Let's see if UD can win the A10 - as watered down as it is - and make it back into the Tournament next year. UD is so far in Xavier's rear view mirror it can't be seen.

Speaking of "watered down," how bad is the Big East going to be next season? Villanova loses three of their top scorers, Grown will suck, Butler will suck, St. Johns will be harrrible, Providence is NIT at best, hell as weak as X is going to be, you guys might even finish in the top half of your conference for once.
Nice showing by your conference in the Big Dance btw. Really impressive.

God, I hope UD gets a shot at Xavier in the Orlando tourney. This board will be in full "fire Chris Mack" mode after that game, just like it was for 3/4 of this season.

[DC Muskie]

Was that the one who kidnapped the dog? Oh never mind, that was an X player lol.

Hey at least the dog was real. Sammy Smith said he was abducted outside of his apartment, forced to use his ATM and then drove to Texas. That's just a classic.

Finn stole some property. Smith couldn't fend off his make believe gunman.

LOL

[DC Muskie]

Speaking of "watered down," how bad is the Big East going to be next season? Villanova loses three of their top scorers, Grown will suck, Butler will suck, St. Johns will be harrrible, Providence is NIT at best, hell as weak as X is going to be, you guys might even finish in the top half of your conference for once.
Nice showing by your conference in the Big Dance btw. Really impressive.

God, I hope UD gets a shot at Xavier in the Orlando tourney. This board will be in full "fire Chris Mack" mode after that game, just like it was for 3/4 of this season.

Well hey at least most of the country will get to see that "watered down" conference on a regular basis. You better hope to God you get to play Xavier, simply because you will get to see them on television before the annual Dayton Invitational in March.

[chico]

Speaking of "watered down," how bad is the Big East going to be next season? Villanova loses three of their top scorers, Grown will suck, Butler will suck, St. Johns will be harrrible, Providence is NIT at best, hell as weak as X is going to be, you guys might even finish in the top half of your conference for once.
Nice showing by your conference in the Big Dance btw. Really impressive.

God, I hope UD gets a shot at Xavier in the Orlando tourney. This board will be in full "fire Chris Mack" mode after that game, just like it was for 3/4 of this season.

Classic troll response. No answer to the criticism of his team/conference, so you deflect and throw as much bull as you can hoping someone will take the bait.

[Section 200]

Speaking of "watered down," how bad is the Big East going to be next season? Villanova loses three of their top scorers, Grown will suck, Butler will suck, St. Johns will be harrrible, Providence is NIT at best, hell as weak as X is going to be, you guys might even finish in the top half of your conference for once.
Nice showing by your conference in the Big Dance btw. Really impressive.

God, I hope UD gets a shot at Xavier in the Orlando tourney. This board will be in full "fire Chris Mack" mode after that game, just like it was for 3/4 of this season.

I thank God every day that we escape the amazing, spectacular A-10 so we could have a chance to maybe finish in the top of the conference since all of the other schools suck. In fact, I think we were actually kicked out of the A-10 since we did so bad. Joining the Big East saved Mack's job! He couldn't handle the A-10 pressure - once George Mason was in, we needed to bolt!

I still have nightmares of the thrashings Fordham, Duquense, La Salle, Charlotte, Richmond and of course Dayton gave us. Didn't we lose to Dayton at home for like 30 straight years? And I don't remember ever beating GW or Rhode Island. Thank God we can play Gtown and Nova and St Johns now and have a chance at a win for once.

[throwbackmuskie]

Dayton fans. Lol


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[goldiewilson]

Well hey at least most of the country will get to see that "watered down" conference on a regular basis.

Problem is I don't think too many people are tuning in to watch Big East basketball. Have you seen the viewership ratings for Big East games on FoxSports? I think more people are tuning in to watch the dart championships than BE conference games.

So far the NEW Big East has been kind of a bust.

And you guys are the little fish in that big pond that no one is tuning in to watch.

Heck, I think the A-10 tourney final had double the viewership of the Big East final.

At least no one was watching Villanova smack you around for the third time.

[Section 200]

Problem is I don't think too many people are tuning in to watch Big East basketball. Have you seen the viewership ratings for Big East games on FoxSports? I think more people are tuning in to watch the dart championships than BE conference games.

So far the NEW Big East has been kind of a bust.

And you guys are the little fish in that big pond that no one is tuning in to watch.

Heck, I think the A-10 tourney final had double the viewership of the Big East final.

At least no one was watching Villanova smack you around for the third time.

Absolutely! No doubt Dayton would have have been 18-0 in the Big East, winning every game by 50, and every game would have been watched by 1 trillion people. UK wishes it had Dayton's resume this year!! I heard that the NBA is lobbying hard for Dayton to join, but the NBA is afraid that even the Jordan era Bulls would look pathetic compared the the flyers!

[goldiewilson]

Absolutely! No doubt Dayton would have have been 18-0 in the Big East, winning every game by 50, and every game would have been watched by 1 trillion people. UK wishes it had Dayton's resume this year!! I heard that the NBA is lobbying hard for Dayton to join, but the NBA is afraid that even the Jordan era Bulls would look pathetic compared the the flyers!


Well now you're just being silly...I don't think any sporting event has ever had a trillion people watching.

The rest of it sounds about right, though.

[XU 87]

I think Archie has made UD into a nice little program.

[DC Muskie]

Problem is I don't think too many people are tuning in to watch Big East basketball. Have you seen the viewership ratings for Big East games on FoxSports? I think more people are tuning in to watch the dart championships than BE conference games.

So far the NEW Big East has been kind of a bust.

And you guys are the little fish in that big pond that no one is tuning in to watch.

Heck, I think the A-10 tourney final had double the viewership of the Big East final.

At least no one was watching Villanova smack you around for the third time.

You know what's funny about this...Dayton doesn't even have a network deal. Never has. Never will.

At least no one watched you get slapped by Duquense. At least you didn't have to spend anytime watching commentators tell their audience where these schools are.

Where's Dayton? Oh yeah, that's where teams play to get the chance to play in the dance.

Something to be proud of.

[OTRMUSKIE]

The difference between X and VD games our that our announcers actually broadcast the games in the arena. Dayton games have announcers broadcasting in studio. I mean how mid major is that? Please tell me again about the water down Big East.

[Milhouse]

A10/UD fans seem to constantly bring up the TV ratings....does it matter at all? Like one bit. Like as a fan I could care less who else is watching my team. Our program gets 3 Million a year from Fox. UD gets $300,000 from ESPN.

At the end of the day I'd most certainly rather have the money than the viewers.

We'll see what happens next contract negotiation. But at that point more than $30 million will have been pumped into Xavier's already growing program.

Big East = 6 Wins. A10 = 2 (although 1 was a play in game). So we're also going to enjoy those NCAA credits more this year as well.

Not sure why I engage the troll, but I just can't get behind people thumping their chest about TV ratings. Do you think any of your players care about that? Do you think Archie cares about that? I guarantee you Archie would rather have the $3 million pumped into the program, and have every single game on Foxsports 1. Not local dayton tv like some

[Smails]

You know what's funny about this...Dayton doesn't even have a network deal. Never has. Never will.

Wrong wrong wrong...I have it on good authority that WHIO has agreed to give Archie a lifetime supply of Mike's Car Wash vouchers and 1 round per month at Weatherwax as long as he is the coach. Talk about perks!

[Xville]

A10/UD fans seem to constantly bring up the TV ratings....does it matter at all? Like one bit. Like as a fan I could care less who else is watching my team. Our program gets 3 Million a year from Fox. UD gets $300,000 from ESPN.

At the end of the day I'd most certainly rather have the money than the viewers.

We'll see what happens next contract negotiation. But at that point more than $30 million will have been pumped into Xavier's already growing program.

Big East = 6 Wins. A10 = 2 (although 1 was a play in game). So we're also going to enjoy those NCAA credits more this year as well.

Not sure why I engage the troll, but I just can't get behind people thumping their chest about TV ratings. Do you think any of your players care about that? Do you think Archie cares about that? I guarantee you Archie would rather have the $3 million pumped into the program, and have every single game on Foxsports 1. Not local dayton tv like some

The only reason i care about viewers is for the next tv deal..we want as many viewers as possible...more viewers = more money

[bigdiggins]

Wrong wrong wrong...I have it on good authority that WHIO has agreed to give Archie a lifetime supply of Mike's Car Wash vouchers and 1 round per month at Weatherwax as long as he is the coach. Talk about perks!

WTF smails? Keep Dayton trash off Weatherwax. Send them to Kitty Hawk up in Dayton.

[xudash]

A10/UD fans seem to constantly bring up the TV ratings....does it matter at all? Like one bit. Like as a fan I could care less who else is watching my team. Our program gets 3 Million a year from Fox. UD gets $300,000 from ESPN.

At the end of the day I'd most certainly rather have the money than the viewers.

We'll see what happens next contract negotiation. But at that point more than $30 million will have been pumped into Xavier's already growing program.

Big East = 6 Wins. A10 = 2 (although 1 was a play in game). So we're also going to enjoy those NCAA credits more this year as well.

Not sure why I engage the troll, but I just can't get behind people thumping their chest about TV ratings. Do you think any of your players care about that? Do you think Archie cares about that? I guarantee you Archie would rather have the $3 million pumped into the program, and have every single game on Foxsports 1. Not local dayton tv like some

Actually, our share is about $4.2 million per year. For 12 years. Ten more to go. Dayton will make less money from television in a DECADE than we make in ONE YEAR. Troll that, bitch.

The troll is too stupid to realize that this is a long-term play, and that, as a start-up for all practical intents and purposes, ratings after the first two years weren't expected to be smashing. But they are trending up as planned.

It was one thing to own VD while we were in the A10, but leaving them behind like this, with Archie having to scrape the bottom of the barrel for convicts and rapists in order to still not when an A10 Championship and barely get into the Dance is priceless.

[Milhouse]

Yeah for the fan I don't think we need to worry about ratings at all. Not at this point. The amount of change that will happen between now and 10 years from now will be gigantic. We're lucky that we seem to be on the right side of it today, in that there is not another conference we would rather be in.

[paulxu]

The difference between X and VD games our that our announcers actually broadcast the games in the arena. Dayton games have announcers broadcasting in studio. I mean how mid major is that? Please tell me again about the water down Big East.

Obviously I've never listened to a Dayton game on the radio. And I always figure Byron and Joe are sitting courtside.
But just wtf does this really mean? Do the Dayton radio guys sit in a studio and watch the game on TV and broadcast it from the studio?
That can't really be true. Who would do that?

It reminds me a lot of the Bull Durham guy sitting in the studio getting the feed over the telephone and broadcasting like he was at the game.

[ammtd34]

Obviously I've never listened to a Dayton game on the radio. And I always figure Byron and Joe are sitting courtside.
But just wtf does this really mean? Do the Dayton radio guys sit in a studio and watch the game on TV and broadcast it from the studio?
That can't really be true. Who would do that?

It reminds me a lot of the Bull Durham guy sitting in the studio getting the feed over the telephone and broadcasting like he was at the game.

Some of their games that were available on national networks had commentators offsite.

[xubrew]

Big East ratings are bad. The A10 ratings are worse. The conference championship game rated decent, but it was on a Sunday and on a network. The regular season ratings typically didn't even score enough viewers to score a rating.

The A10's TV contract is embarrassingly and ridiculously bad. It makes no sense that it's as bad as it is. The top of the league is actually decent, yet the Missouri Valley schools make double what the A10 schools make. That's absurd. It's $5 million a year that all fourteen schools share. $5 million A YEAR!!! That's the equivalent of about the first quarter of the Big Ten championship football game.

[X-band '01]

My long-term worry would be if Fox could opt out of the contract early due to lower-than-expected ratings. I really don't know what their expected progress is in terms of cable/online availability the next couple of years.

[goldiewilson]

Classic troll response. No answer to the criticism of his team/conference, so you deflect and throw as much bull as you can hoping someone will take the bait.

I would like to point out something for those of you referring to me as a "troll."

I have never started a topic on here. I usually respond to someone making a false or asinine statement about my Flyers. I do not respond in an effort to troll, I am not posting to stir anything up, just to rebut some of the silly comments about my team.
I visit this board because it is enjoyable. There are a lot of knowledgeable people who post on here about a variety of college basketball topics.

I never come here looking for comments about UD. I read several college bball forums, and for some reason UD basketball is frequently mentioned here. I simply respond.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I would like to point out something for those of you referring to me as a "troll."

I have never started a topic on here. I usually respond to someone making a false or asinine statement about my Flyers. I do not respond in an effort to troll, I am not posting to stir anything up, just to rebut some of the silly comments about my team.
I visit this board because it is enjoyable. There are a lot of knowledgeable people who post on here about a variety of college basketball topics.

I never come here looking for comments about UD. I read several college bball forums, and for some reason UD basketball is frequently mentioned here. I simply respond.

Ummmmmmm........you started this thread?

[BandAid]

Ummmmmmm........you started this thread?

Not quite. He derailed another thread which got turned into this thread.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Not quite. He derailed another thread which got turned into this thread.

Oh, my bad. I was like ???????

[BandAid]

Oh, my bad. I was like ???????

Well, derailing a thread leading to the generation of a new one is worse than simply starting one, so your initial point still stands.

[goldiewilson]

Not quite. He derailed another thread which got turned into this thread.

Well, the whole thing started innocently enough. There were some on here predicting Archie would be on the first bus out of Dayton. I disagreed, others countered, hell there may even have been a post or two accusing me of having sexual intercourse with large green fruit. I merely respond to comments others make that are unfair or inaccurate about Ohio's favorite basketball team - the Dayton Flyers.

[BandAid]

Well, the whole thing started innocently enough. There were some on here predicting Archie would be on the first bus out of Dayton. I disagreed, others countered, hell there may even have been a post or two accusing me of having sexual intercourse with large green fruit. I merely respond to comments others make that are unfair or inccurate about Ohio's favorite basketball team - the Dayton Flyers.

But you don't respond to comments that are unfair or inaccurate about you consummating with a fruit? Hmmmm

I'm playing with you, I'm sure you don't do that........

[Milhouse]

Well, the whole thing started innocently enough. There were some on here predicting Archie would be on the first bus out of Dayton. I disagreed, others countered, hell there may even have been a post or two accusing me of having sexual intercourse with large green fruit. I merely respond to comments others make that are unfair or inccurate about Ohio's favorite basketball team - the Dayton Flyers.

Talk about inaccurate comments.

I BELIEVE WE WERE THE STATE CHAMPS THIS YEAR.

[goldiewilson]

Talk about inaccurate comments.

I BELIEVE WE WERE THE STATE CHAMPS THIS YEAR.


Well you got me there, X was the last man standing from the state of Ohio. We shall see what next season brings. I think X and UD will both be better than OSU and UC, and I can't see Wright State or any of the MAC schools making a splash.

[ammtd34]

As for the felon/rape crap, really? UD kicked the two bozos off the team, which was the right move. The Matt Kavanaugh situation was very similar to the Dez Wells situation, neither of those two raped anybody. Difference is UD let it play out in the courts and when he was found to have done nothing wrong he was allowed back on the team.

I just saw this part. No it wasn't.

[goldiewilson]

I just saw this part. No it wasn't.

Can you explain to me how they were much different?

In each case, a college athlete was accused of a sexual crime. In both instances, after a criminal investigation,
it was determined by a grand jury that there was insufficient evidence that a crime took place.
In each case the university said the athlete violated the code of student conduct.

Big difference was that UD suspended Kavanaugh while the legal system played out.
Xavier expelled Wells and then had egg on their face once he was exonerated.
UD handled it the right way, Xavier didn't.

[ammtd34]

Can you explain to me how they were much different?

In each case, a college athlete was accused of a sexual crime. In both instances, after a criminal investigation,
it was determined by a grand jury that there was insufficient evidence that a crime took place.
In each case the university said the athlete violated the code of student conduct.

Big difference was that UD suspended Kavanaugh while the legal system played out.
Xavier expelled Wells and then had egg on their face once he was exonerated.
UD handled it the right way, Xavier didn't.

Neither school handled it right. If Kavanaugh went to Xavier, I definitely wouldn't have wanted him back after a year. It isn't hard to find what happened in both cases and what was said in the student hearings. They aren't similar.

[goldiewilson]

Neither school handled it right. If Kavanaugh went to Xavier, I definitely wouldn't have wanted him back.

Seems pretty harsh to me. I guess that's where you and I are different. If someone is found to have done nothing wrong then I don't hold it against them.

[ammtd34]

Seems pretty harsh to me. I guess that's where you and I are different. If someone is found to have done nothing wrong then I don't hold it against them.

Not being indicted by a grand jury certainly isn't proof of innocence, especially in sexual assault cases. You have to look at the cases individually.

This is strictly anecdotal, but my sister, a UD student at the time, said that Kav's accusations were "the least surprising thing she's ever heard."

[goldiewilson]

Not being indicted by a grand jury certainly isn't proof of innocence, especially in sexual assault cases. You have to look at the cases individually.

This is strictly anecdotal, but my sister, a UD student at the time, said that Kav's accusations were "the least surprising thing she's ever heard."

I'll tell you what I heard. Kavanaugh and the girl had consentual sex on two separate occasions. She assumed they were a couple after the second encounter, Kavanaugh blew her off, and hence the rape charge. Anecdotal, much like what you provided.

[paulxu]

Seems pretty harsh to me. I guess that's where you and I are different. If someone is found to have done nothing wrong then I don't hold it against them.

How stupid. He obviously did something wrong; he violated the student code of conduct which he was suspended for. You noted that yourself.

[goldiewilson]

How stupid. He obviously did something wrong; he violated the student code of conduct which he was suspended for. You noted that yourself.

Nothing stupid at all about what I said. He was suspended, not expelled from school while the investigation went forward. Once the Prosecutor determined he committed no crime, he was reinstated to the university. Just like any other non athlete student would have been under the same situation.

Had Xavier done the same thing and Dez Wells been reinstated then I would feel the same way about that.

Just because someone is accused of something doesn't mean they did it. I trust to let the legal system do its job and if a person is found innocent then let them go on with their life

[paulxu]

You are aware there are violations of the student code of conduct which aren't "illegal" but are still violations.
Probably not.
Assumedly your university found him guilty of violating some code provision; hence the suspension.
Then again, who knows with all that goes on up there.

[ammtd34]

Nothing stupid at all about what I said. He was suspended, not expelled from school while the investigation went forward. Once the Prosecutor determined he committed no crime, he was reinstated to the university. Just like any other non athlete student would have been under the same situation.

Had Xavier done the same thing and Dez Wells been reinstated then I would feel the same way about that.

Just because someone is accused of something doesn't mean they did it. I trust to let the legal system do its job and if a person is found innocent then let them go on with their life

Again, he wasn't found innocent. He wasn't tried. That happens in about 75% of sexual assault cases.

[goldiewilson]

You are aware there are violations of the student code of conduct which aren't "illegal" but are still violations.
Probably not.
Assumedly your university found him guilty of violating some code provision; hence the suspension.
Then again, who knows with all that goes on up there.

Seems like we are going around in circles here so I am going to try one more time.

He was SUSPENDED from the school for violating the student conduct policy. He wasn't permanently expelled.
Once there were no criminal charges filed, he was re-admitted by the university and reinstated by the team.

Guess what, when I was in school (not UD) a guy in our dorm was kicked out of school for violating the school's conduct code (drug related issues). He was told he could reapply in 9 months. He went back to his hometown and worked for his dad, reapplied when the time was up, and returned to the school the following winter semester. This happens at colleges all around the country, including Dayton. Including Xavier.

Quit trying to act like UD made some crazy back room concessions to allow Kavanaugh back into school and on the team.

[throwbackmuskie]

Dayton fans, LOL

[toledodan]

as far as xavier and ud. both teams joined in 95 i believe and dayton won 1 league title and 1 conference tourny title. xavier won plenty of both. dayton needs to win conference titles in the a-10 before bashing the big east.

[XUFan09]

Did the same AD who hired Miller also hire Gregory and at one point give him a ridiculous contract extension from which Georgia Tech saved Dayton? Or were they different ADs?
Bump. Does anyone know the answer to this?

[paulxu]

A guy named Kissell hired Gregory. Wabler hired Miller, but also gave Gregory the contract bump I think.

[XUFan09]

A guy named Kissell hired Gregory. Wabler hired Miller, but also gave Gregory the contract bump I think.
So their current AD is batting .500 on intelligent basketball decisions.

[Masterofreality]

Quit trying to act like UD made some crazy back room concessions to allow Kavanaugh back into school and on the team.

Except that they did.....and if he wasn't a basketball player, he would have never been allowed inside of Montgomery County again.

From what I heard, "The Big Frog" had, errrr, as you call it "consensual sex"...ok, we'll go with that....with a few or more freshmen coeds after they had been plyed with strong drink. Some "Code of Conduct" you have up there.

The most recent "big White Stiff" in vdump basketball annals wasn't exactly a Pillar of Virtue.

[A10fan]

Next seasons version of the Flyers will be Archie's best team yet. If Xavier is unfortunate enough to have to play the Flyers in Orlando you will get to witness this yourself. Can you say "beatdown?" I would worry about Xavier trying to fill their holes more than I would UD.


beatdown? Is that what we witnessed? Good call. NostraDumbass

[waggy]

Damn, an A10Fan sighting.

[Xpectations]

Next seasons version of the Flyers will be Archie's best team yet. If Xavier is unfortunate enough to have to play the Flyers in Orlando you will get to witness this yourself. Can you say "beatdown?" I would worry about Xavier trying to fill their holes more than I would UD.


I completely missed this thread. Wow, that Thanksgiving weekend "beatdown" really had to hurt.

[Perma Fro]

I completely missed this thread. Wow, that Thanksgiving weekend "beatdown" really had to hurt.

F VD and their "fans".